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| dtroyer | Hello? OSC Meeting? I am late for my own reminder... | 13:09 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 14:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
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| vgridnev | O/ | 14:00 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 14:00 |
| vgridnev | #chair tellesnobrega | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: tellesnobrega vgridnev | 14:00 |
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| tellesnobrega | should we wait until 5 after to let more people join? | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | Yep, let's wait a little | 14:03 |
| shuyingya_m | Hi o/ | 14:03 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:04 |
| esikachev | hi | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:04 |
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| vgridnev | Ok, let's start; tellesnobrega do you what do be chairman today? | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, sure | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News / updates | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:07 | |
| vgridnev | Mostly busy with some internal duties, btw, sahara passed the third milestone | 14:08 |
| vgridnev | So, feature freeze in the action | 14:08 |
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| vgridnev | I think that we can continue to merge stuff around MapR plugin; + APIv2 since it's a experimental stuff | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm still stuck on the same storm integration problem to the vanilla plugin. Still haven't got around to look into it. Other than that, I'm busy with some internal duties and learning the PTL trade | 14:09 |
| shuyingya_m | I am working on API v2 implement. As Chinese spring festival is coming, the work progress moves slowly. | 14:09 |
| armstrong | ok am here | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, would you like to introduce yourself? | 14:10 |
| esikachev | i am also mostly working on internal activities, waiting for travel support, debug sahara-ci | 14:10 |
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| armstrong | Yes, I am Armstrong and new to this working group, which I like to join and contribute my ideas if possible | 14:11 |
| vgridnev | Btw, we will open Pike development next week, I guess | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | esikachev, I don't think TSP will be a problem, someone posted a couple days ago that they wanted to send more people from sahara | 14:11 |
| armstrong | anything specific you want me to tell? | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, that should be enough for now and we can discuss more later what your interests are | 14:11 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, where you saw that? | 14:11 |
| vgridnev | armstrong, have you already tried sahara in the action? | 14:12 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I believe it was last week, someone posted on #openstack-sahara | 14:13 |
| armstrong | I install it on my research test using devstack | 14:13 |
| armstrong | but more familiar with Hadoop and spark | 14:13 |
| shuyingya_m | Btw, vgridnev. My visa application has been rejected last Friday. I need to go to the American consulate after Chinese spring festival. I am not sure now whether I can take part at PTG. | 14:14 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya_m, that sucks :( | 14:14 |
| egafford | shuyingya_m: D: | 14:14 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, any news about microphones? | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I wrote them an email but haven't got an answer yet | 14:16 |
| vgridnev | Interesting .. | 14:16 |
| esikachev | tellesnobrega: i had a talk with Terry, and he told me that the results will be in the end of the next week and I am in the waitlist now | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | I did it only yesterday, so this may be normal | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | esikachev, nice, lets hope for the best | 14:17 |
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| tellesnobrega | anyone else on news? | 14:19 |
| vgridnev | shuyingya_m, any chance to get approved application? Just wonder | 14:19 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic Open discussion | 14:20 |
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| tellesnobrega | armstrong, do you want to way in what are your main interests on the project? | 14:21 |
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| tellesnobrega | armstrong, do you want to way in what are your main interests on the project? | 14:21 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, anything in particular that you want to discuss? | 14:22 |
| vgridnev | Nothing for today. | 14:23 |
| shuyingya_m | I bought the ticket for PTG and applied a visa letter. But they still told me I just graduated half a year. I am not stable now. | 14:23 |
| shuyingya_m | Do we have plan about API v2? | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | It is important for all of us to take a look on #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ptg-pike and propose topics for the PTG | 14:24 |
| vgridnev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ptg-pike | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | even if you are not going, and we are working on making online participation possible, it is highly recommended that you suggest discussions | 14:25 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya_m, what exactly do you want to know about api v2? | 14:26 |
| armstrong | tellesnobrega: sorry i didn't get that | 14:26 |
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| shuyingya_m | telles :) | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, do you want to way in what are your main interests on the project? | 14:27 |
| armstrong | ok | 14:27 |
| shuyingya_m | I am not sure I am in right way working on API v2. Now I mostly follow the wiki page. | 14:28 |
| shuyingya_m | tellesnobrega | 14:29 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya_m, I need ot take a further look on the plan for api v2 and we will discuss it on PTG and probably here as well on the coming weeks. As I wrote on my candidacy email, delivering api v2 is one of my goal as PTL so I will take some time to learn it thoroughly and we can work on a delivery plan | 14:29 |
| armstrong | tellesnobrega : I will be glad to tell, generally , i like code review, writing code and runing workloads | 14:29 |
| armstrong | I don't know of these applies here | 14:29 |
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| tellesnobrega | armstrong, it sure does, we do need people that like testing what we do :) | 14:30 |
| shuyingya_m | Nice. So should I work on it and post commits on it now? Or after PTG | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | you can work on it, since it is experimental we can still merge those no problem | 14:31 |
| shuyingya_m | Ok . If you have time, please review the endpoint changes I posted. :) | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, do we have any changes or news on testing side? | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | raissa esikachev ^ | 14:33 |
| tosky | not so much, apart from the fact that I still need to investigate a failure in mitaka | 14:33 |
| tosky | and that I'm preparing the release notes for a new version of sahara-tests | 14:33 |
| esikachev | no changes for me | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, great | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | anything else to discuss today? | 14:35 |
| shuyingya_m | Nothing from me | 14:37 |
| vgridnev | i think no | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | ok folks, as soon as I know anything about the microphone I will let you know. | 14:37 |
| shuyingya_m | Happy spring festival all :) | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya_m, please keep us updated on your coming to PTG | 14:37 |
| shuyingya_m | Sure | 14:37 |
| vgridnev | shuyingya_m, it's quite cold for spring in Russia :) | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, welcome to the team, I hope you will find this project to be exciting and help us for a while | 14:38 |
| armstrong | thank you | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, shuyingya_m, it is quite warm for spring in Brazil | 14:38 |
| armstrong | I will surely enjoy it | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | thank you all guys, lets keep up the good work | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 14:39:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-01-26-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-01-26-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-01-26-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:39 |
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| vgridnev | Thanks tellesnobrega | 14:39 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 15:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | I saw janzian and john-davidge joining the room as well | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | anyone else? | 15:00 |
| john-davidge | hi | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | As usual, our agenda is here: | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| mlavalle | We made it to the Ocata-3: | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | Ocata release is the week of February 20 | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | so we will be cutting and testing some release candidates over the next few days | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | Next is a reminder to everybody about the PTG | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | it's about a month away | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | I checked about 10 minutes ago and there are 32 tickets left | 15:05 |
| john-davidge | pretty good sales | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | so if you plan to attend and don't have a ticket, hurry up | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | The Neutron team etherpad for the PTG is here: | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | In case you want to bring any topic up for discussion | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: I see you added routed external networks. does that mean your trip got approved? | 15:07 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Yes it did :) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | yaay! | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | Next annoucements is in regards to PTL candidates nomination. It will close in 3d14h35m44s | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | So if you want to run for the PTL position, hurry up! | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | And then, of course, please don't forget to cast your votes. For the first time in several cycles, this is a contested election: | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | Votes can be cast from Feb 1 to 7 | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | Any other annoucements? | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:13 | |
| mlavalle | First up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1570122 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570122 in neutron "ipv6 prefix delegated subnets are not accessable external of the router they are attached." [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 15:14 |
| john-davidge | So I found what's been causing us problems with the fix and commented on the patch about it | 15:14 |
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| john-davidge | I've got it working now but don't like the complexity of the solution, so I'm working on something more elegant | 15:14 |
| john-davidge | should be up for review soon | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | any thing else? | 15:15 |
| john-davidge | Nope | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | The fix for this bug is here: | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390594/ | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | Thanks haleyb for taking a look! | 15:17 |
| haleyb | it's a big change | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | I see you added kevinbenton. Hopefully he can take a look soon | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: yeah, it is big. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | i might just update it to fix the nits i found | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:19 |
| haleyb | not from me | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | Tnanks | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627424 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627424 in neutron "FlushError on IPAllocation" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | I have been making progress slowly investigating this bug | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | It is triggered when the IPAM deletes an IPAM IP Allocation | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | however the error itself is about DB IPAllocations | 15:23 |
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| mlavalle | in the session there are two IPAllocation objects that conflict with each other | 15:24 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: hopefully you can make more progress, thanks for continuing to look | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | and there is some black magic going on with this: | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_common.py#L125 | 15:25 |
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| * john-davidge has also spent the week drowning in black magic | 15:26 | |
| mlavalle | so my theory right now is that when a port's ip fixed ip's are updated and there is a db retry, we are inserting conflicting IPAllocation object to the session and the whole thing explodes when flushin the session updating the IPAM IP Allocations | 15:27 |
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| * mlavalle drowning in IPAllocation objects :-) | 15:27 | |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 15:27 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: did that bug 1556178 give any clue? | 15:28 |
| openstack | bug 1556178 in neutron "ipallocation instances live between retries" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556178 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: I got to that last night and was running late for yoga class. I'll investigate today | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | that's where my bookmark is :-) | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 15:29 |
| haleyb | i agree with your black magic call | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627480 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627480 in neutron "create_port can succeed without returning fixed_ips on all requested subnets" [High,Confirmed] | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | This one has no owner, any volunteers? | 15:31 |
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| * haleyb only hears crickets | 15:32 | |
| janzian | I can give it a go | 15:32 |
| haleyb | janzian: thanks! | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | janzian: yeah. we can discuss in the office | 15:33 |
| janzian | mlavalle: Sounds good | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | Last one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509004 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509004 in neutron ""test_dualnet_dhcp6_stateless_from_os" failures seen in the gate" [High,Confirmed] | 15:34 |
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| john-davidge | wow that's an old one | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | it came back in January | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:36 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on.... | 15:37 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Prefix Delegation | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Prefix Delegation (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | baoli: any updates? | 15:38 |
| baoli | Thanks John and haleyb for the comments | 15:38 |
| baoli | I will be loading a patch shortly | 15:38 |
| baoli | that's all from me | 15:38 |
| john-davidge | baoli: Thanks :) | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | baoli: Thanks | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:39 | |
| mlavalle | I was able to land the big patchset a couple of days ago | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358658/ | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | thanks to haleyb, kevinbenton, baoli and the other reviewers | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | I also updated the Networking Guide with the new functionality: | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423723/ | 15:41 |
| john-davidge | That networking guide patch merged so quickly i didnt even see it! | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: that squashed the docs bug you triaged last week | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657923 | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657923 in neutron " Add a ReST client for placement API" [Undecided,New] | 15:42 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: nice | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: yeah, I pushed the patchset Sunday night, added you to the review and when I came back 45 minutes later after walking the dog, it had a +2 | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | I wanted you save her Majesty's language from my butchering, but our Aussie friends jumped in :-) | 15:44 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: :D | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | so the only remaining item on this topic for next cycle is external routed networks, which we will discuss in Atlanta | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP Dynamic Routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:46 | |
| mlavalle | I haven't seen tidwellr lately around. And then last night I got a message from Linkedin | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | he has a new job at Target in Minneapolis | 15:47 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: do you know if that is OpenStack / Neutron related? | 15:47 |
| haleyb | yes, but he is still working on neutron, but sure he's busy | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | ok, fantastic! | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | I'll reach out to him and discuss how he wants to move forward | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:49 | |
| mlavalle | Any other topics from the team? | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | ok team, thanks for attending. Enjoy the rest of your days! | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Thanks! o/ | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 15:51:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-01-26-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-01-26-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-01-26-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| edleafe | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 16:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 16:00 |
| etoews | o/ | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #chair cdent elmiko etoews edleafe | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: elmiko | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko etoews | 16:00 |
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| cdent | I'm present, but also on a voice call, so may experience latency | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:01 | |
| edleafe | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/ | 16:01 |
| edleafe | No action items from last week | 16:01 |
| edleafe | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and new biz (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:01 | |
| edleafe | Updating stability/compatibility guidelines: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421846/ and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110384.html | 16:01 |
| cdent | my efforrts to engage the commonweal are not progessing as I hoped :( | 16:02 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421846/ | 16:02 |
| edleafe | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110384.html | 16:02 |
| edleafe | I keep meaning to comment on them, but I keep getting distracted by the FF pressures | 16:03 |
| etoews | the usual suspects showed up :) | 16:03 |
| etoews | edleafe: FF? | 16:03 |
| etoews | fantastic four? | 16:03 |
| edleafe | etoews: sorry - Feature Freeze | 16:03 |
| edleafe | etoews: I would prefer the Fantastic Four! | 16:03 |
| cdent | especially human torch | 16:04 |
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| edleafe | cdent: you had the note in the agenda: "What about projects that don't use microversions or version boundaries of any kind." | 16:05 |
| cdent | that seems to be one of the sticking points in the current discussion | 16:05 |
| edleafe | Can we just add "if not, you're hosed" | 16:06 |
| etoews | pretty much | 16:06 |
| etoews | versioning software. terrible idea. | 16:06 |
| cdent | the issue there is that some people want the stability concept to apply globally but it's hard to do without some versioning, unless you never change | 16:07 |
| cdent | but since some projects don't microversion they struggle (e.g. glance) | 16:07 |
| cdent | on the flip side, because some projects microversion, they change all the freaking time | 16:07 |
| cdent | which runs rather contrary to the concept of real stability | 16:08 |
| cdent | instead that's backwards support capability, which is not really the same thing | 16:08 |
| cdent | but is perhaps what people really mean | 16:08 |
| stevelle | stability for whom becomes the question | 16:08 |
| edleafe | "We won't break old clients" | 16:08 |
| edleafe | ...except if your client doesn't understand how to request a microversion | 16:09 |
| etoews | backwards support i definitely at the top of most people's minds | 16:09 |
| cdent | stevelle: you're a good example of someone who ought to jump into that thread :) | 16:09 |
| etoews | s/i/is/ | 16:09 |
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| edleafe | cdent: Your other note was "Anything formal for PTG?" | 16:10 |
| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-architecture-workgroup | 16:10 |
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| cdent | yeah, so it turns out thanks to the good graces of the foundation, I will be at the PTG. I think there's plenty of cross project stuff we can probably horn in on (like the service catalog stuff scottda wants to get rolling) but I wondered if we needed or wanted to have an official schmooze | 16:11 |
| edleafe | We'll see if there is any interest for that | 16:11 |
| edleafe | "that" being the architecture wg topic | 16:11 |
| scottda | hi | 16:11 |
| * scottda is late | 16:11 | |
| edleafe | heyo | 16:11 |
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| etoews | i won't be at the ptg but something formal might be helpful to drive some of the more contentious guidelines forward | 16:12 |
| etoews | hell, just pick exactly one contentious guideline and attempt to drive resolution/consensus | 16:13 |
| cdent | capabilities will probably come up | 16:13 |
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| edleafe | that certainly meets the definition of 'contentious' | 16:14 |
| cdent | 'xactly | 16:14 |
| etoews | that, pagination, or change guidelines are all good candidates | 16:14 |
| cdent | yes | 16:14 |
| * etoews stops offering opinions on an event he won't be attending | 16:15 | |
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| edleafe | etoews: no worries; we'll just assign everything we decide on to you | 16:15 |
| cdent | I think it will be interesting to see how the the unconference style of orchestrating the whole week is going to work out | 16:15 |
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| cdent | it all seems a bit chaotic, but that's perhaps good | 16:15 |
| edleafe | So the API WG doesn't have a formal space assigned | 16:15 |
| edleafe | Do we a) horn in on another group, or b) ask ttx for our own space (if available) | 16:16 |
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| cdent | i'm not sure I can commit to be in any particular space at any particular time | 16:16 |
| edleafe | sort of amorphous? | 16:17 |
| cdent | i have taken on the form of an amoeba | 16:17 |
| edleafe | Looks-wise, it's gotta be an improvement | 16:18 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:18 |
| cdent | duh amn | 16:18 |
| edleafe | ok, so we'll just kinda join the architecture wg? Maybe send them a note? Or mention it at their next meeting? | 16:19 |
| cdent | i'll be at their next meeting, so yeah, I'll do that | 16:19 |
| cdent | #action cdent schmooze with arch-wg for ptg party time | 16:20 |
| edleafe | That's today at 4pm CST | 16:20 |
| edleafe | Kinda late for you? | 16:20 |
| cdent | I started late today. I start late on tuesday and thursday to hang with those cool west coast kids | 16:21 |
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| edleafe | gotcha | 16:22 |
| edleafe | I'll try to make it too, but no promises | 16:22 |
| edleafe | My daughter gets out of school at different times every day | 16:22 |
| edleafe | anyway, let's move on | 16:23 |
| edleafe | #topic guidelines | 16:24 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:24 | |
| edleafe | What's ready to freeze? Or what's not, what's missing? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | What's ready to merge? | 16:24 |
| cdent | nothing | 16:24 |
| cdent | cuz nothing is frozen | 16:24 |
| edleafe | For freeze, I think these are ready | 16:24 |
| edleafe | - Clarify the status values in versions | 16:24 |
| edleafe | - Add guideline for invalid query parameters | 16:24 |
| edleafe | - Add guidelines on usage of state vs. status | 16:24 |
| edleafe | no objections there | 16:25 |
| cdent | yeah, that sounds right | 16:25 |
| edleafe | There is still some back-and-forth on 'Add guidelines for boolean names' | 16:25 |
| cdent | who wants to do the freezing (and notifying) honors? | 16:25 |
| edleafe | not me, since I'm not sure of the process | 16:25 |
| cdent | a) I'll do it, b) remind me to tell you at some point | 16:25 |
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| edleafe | #action edleafe to remind cdent to show him how to freeze + notify | 16:26 |
| etoews | edleafe: here's the process http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/process.html | 16:26 |
| etoews | i think that's mostly up-to-date | 16:26 |
| edleafe | If others can weigh in on the boolean naming, that would be awesome | 16:26 |
| edleafe | Monty's preference sounds odd to me, but apparently it works for them | 16:27 |
| edleafe | I'd like others' input | 16:27 |
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| edleafe | etoews: thanks for the link | 16:27 |
| etoews | lemme look at the boolean guideline. i'm a bit behind on reviews. :( | 16:28 |
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| edleafe | the pagination and capability discovery patches could also use some input/discussion | 16:28 |
| cdent | I think those will likely stay a bit stalled through FF time | 16:30 |
| cdent | probably get a reboot at PTG? | 16:30 |
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| edleafe | they would be good to discuss, although pagination is pretty close | 16:30 |
| edleafe | IAC, please add your comments to the reviews | 16:31 |
| edleafe | Let's move on | 16:31 |
| edleafe | #topic bug review | 16:31 |
| edleafe | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:31 | |
| cdent | nada new? | 16:31 |
| edleafe | Nothing jumps out at me | 16:32 |
| edleafe | Reminder to anyone who wants to start to contribute: these bugs are a great place to start! | 16:32 |
| edleafe | Most are just tracking missing parts of guidelines | 16:33 |
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| edleafe | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:33 |
| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:33 | |
| edleafe | cdent: you up for that one? | 16:33 |
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| cdent | yup sure, but will be a bit slow | 16:34 |
| cdent | will ping when I need some proofreading | 16:34 |
| edleafe | I don't think that time is of the essence here | 16:34 |
| edleafe | So... anything else from anybody? | 16:35 |
| edleafe | Or do we let cdent get down to just one meeting at a time? | 16:35 |
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| etoews | nope. i'm +1 on the boolean guideline. | 16:35 |
| cdent | it's lonely on this other meeting, you guys are _much_ more fun | 16:35 |
| edleafe | cdent: Glad we could entertain you | 16:36 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 16:36:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-01-26-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-01-26-16.00.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-01-26-16.00.log.html | 16:36 |
| cdent | am I not entertained... | 16:36 |
| cdent | thanks edleafe | 16:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:00 |
| igordcard | hi| | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: hi there | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 18:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | quick note on the logistics, i will be tagging the stable branches some time later today | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic QoS from feature branch to master | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QoS from feature branch to master (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: there? | 18:02 |
| igordcard | oh | 18:02 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | unfortunately i havent had a chance to look at this yet | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: did you happen to take stab at it? | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we will be trying to move the master, to newton soon, so i would prefer to get this done before that | 18:03 |
| igordcard | it was finished a few months ago and got merged to feature/qos | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: right, we just need to merge it back to master now | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but there will be merge conflicts | 18:04 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: right, so should I just submit a new patch and after rebasing to master? | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: if you are able to do that it will be awesome! | 18:05 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: alright! | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that way it will make it much easier to merge to master | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (i dont know why keep adding ‘it’ in every sentence) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: anything else on that? | 18:06 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I suppose it's for the next release right? | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: our master is still on mitaka | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so this will be on mitaka | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however if you anticipate taking a little more time on this, we can try to do the merge when we get to newton | 18:07 |
| igordcard | ok so I should do it before you cut stable | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it might be more difficult to backport it to mitaka then | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: yeah, if you are able to do it sometime in the next few days then we will be able to merge it before we move to newton | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and that way we can carry forward the changes to newton (and have them in mitaka as well) | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: anything else on that front? | 18:09 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: Ok, will do, it's all. | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks for bringing this up | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:10 | |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything at your end? | 18:10 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: eheh I didn't :p | 18:11 |
| rkukura | not really | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | most of the team has been either busy on the aim drivers or on the NFP patches | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there are a number of pending NFP patches | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i dont think songole is around | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if nothing else, we can wrap up for today | 18:13 |
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| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 18:13 |
| * tbachman runs in to the room late | 18:13 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi, just wrapping up | 18:13 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:14 |
| tbachman | FWIW, I’ll have a patch coming this afternoon | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks for joining though, anything you wanted to bring up? | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ah | 18:14 |
| tbachman | has to do with floating IPs when using network service policy | 18:14 |
| tbachman | for NAT | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i was just mentioning that I was going to tag later in the day | 18:14 |
| tbachman | k | 18:14 |
| tbachman | I’ve functionally tested the fix. I just need to create the official patch, with UTs, and make sure there’s not a similar issue with the update path | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i am guessing this is urgent and needs to be in before i tag? | 18:15 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: if that’s possible :) | 18:15 |
| tbachman | FWIW, here’s the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1659609 | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659609 in Group Based Policy "Floating IPs are allocated using the wrong router ID" [Undecided,New] | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ok thanks | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks all for joining! | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 18:18:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-01-26-18.01.html | 18:18 |
| igordcard | bye | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-01-26-18.01.txt | 18:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-01-26-18.01.log.html | 18:18 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 18:18 |
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