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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:30 |
| soichi | lets's wait several minutes | 05:31 |
| reedip | Yeey ! | 05:33 |
| soichi | reedip: hi! | 05:33 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 05:33:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:33 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | yamamoto: hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 05:33 |
| soichi | #topic A talk for Boston Summit (deadline: Feb 6th) | 05:34 |
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| soichi | i hope we can submit a talk for Boston Summit | 05:34 |
| soichi | do you have any idea about contents of our talk? | 05:34 |
| reedip | soichi : I have been discussing with tacker team | 05:35 |
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| reedip | I was trying to find something related to Virtualized Tap interfaces in the current SDN solutions and if we can tie up TaaS with those SDN solutions | 05:35 |
| soichi | reedip: it sounds good | 05:36 |
| yamamoto | what do you mean by virtualized tap interfaces? | 05:36 |
| soichi | i guess taas interface. That is, not using physical tap device. | 05:39 |
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| reedip | soichi : yes | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | use what instead? | 05:40 |
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| reedip | yamamoto : basically we have the levels defined as User -> Neutron -> OVS for TaaS, isnt it ? | 05:41 |
| reedip | I mean the control path moves in that way | 05:41 |
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| yamamoto | yes | 05:42 |
| reedip | Instead of OVS , can we use OpenContrial or ODL ? | 05:42 |
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| soichi | i think reedip's idea is a presentation how to use TaaS with SDN solutions such as Contrail, Nuage, and so on | 05:43 |
| reedip | Something like that | 05:44 |
| yamamoto | is it more than a new driver? | 05:44 |
| reedip | Currently I think it may just be a new driver | 05:46 |
| soichi | be that as it may, but i'm not sure | 05:46 |
| soichi | does it make sense we can say taas is applicable not only OVS but also Contrial and etc? | 05:48 |
| yamamoto | midonet, plumgrid, and vmware already have its taas driver and they are SDN. i'm not sure what's new for opencontrail and odl. | 05:49 |
| yamamoto | maybe policy-based something? i'm not sure. | 05:50 |
| yamamoto | (well, i'm not sure about plumgrid.) | 05:51 |
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| reedip | yamamoto : do all of these solutions provide similar performances ? | 05:52 |
| reedip | or functionalities? | 05:52 |
| yamamoto | i'm familiar with midonet but i don't know about others. | 05:53 |
| yamamoto | midonet provides more than the reference implementation. any port can be tapped, for example. | 05:54 |
| soichi | performance comparison sounds interesting for me (but i think it is difficult to prepare testbed) | 05:55 |
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| yamamoto | yes. 1-node sdn performance doesn't make much sense. :-) | 05:57 |
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| reedip | :- ) | 05:59 |
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| reedip | so what else do ytou suggest soichi ! :D | 06:01 |
| soichi | i'd like to consider a little bit more whether we can say something about using taas with SDN solutions. | 06:01 |
| soichi | let's disscuss offline because the deadline is 6th Feb (next Monday) | 06:02 |
| yamamoto | reedip: what kind of input from tacker folks you got? | 06:04 |
| reedip | In discussion with them , they look positive | 06:04 |
| yamamoto | they have some interesting way to use taas? | 06:05 |
| reedip | yamamoto : they are familiarizing with taas, so they have not given complete inputs yet | 06:05 |
| soichi | Can we go on next topic (Open Discussion)? | 06:07 |
| yamamoto | ok. i'm interested in their opinion. (as i have ~no knowledge about nfv) | 06:08 |
| yamamoto | soichi: sure. i have no topic. | 06:08 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 06:08 |
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| soichi | reedip: do you have topic? | 06:09 |
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| soichi | it seems we have no more topics for today. | 06:14 |
| soichi | so i'd like to close today's meeting. | 06:14 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 06:15 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 06:15:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-02-01-05.33.html | 06:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-02-01-05.33.txt | 06:15 |
| yamamoto | thank you! | 06:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-02-01-05.33.log.html | 06:15 |
| soichi | bye | 06:15 |
| kaz | bye | 06:15 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 13:04:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:04 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:04 |
| claudiub | hello | 13:04 |
| claudiub | sorry for being late | 13:04 |
| claudiub | anyone still here? | 13:05 |
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| armstrong | yes | 13:05 |
| claudiub | oh hi, new people. :D | 13:05 |
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| armstrong | yea second time attending | 13:05 |
| claudiub | hm, when was the other time? | 13:06 |
| armstrong | last week | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | i see. just a quick tip, all of the openstack meetings are logged, and people present at meetings are considered "present" if they say at least one thing. :) | 13:07 |
| claudiub | so, that would be useful for future meetings | 13:08 |
| armstrong | is this the sahara wg? | 13:08 |
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| claudiub | sorry, this is the hyper-v meeting. :) | 13:08 |
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| armstrong | oh my mistake | 13:08 |
| claudiub | armstrong: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Hyper-V | 13:08 |
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| armstrong | thanks for the link | 13:09 |
| claudiub | no problem :) | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | anyways, i'll be continuing the meeting. seems sagar already left, but he'll read the logs later | 13:10 |
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| claudiub | #topic nova patches status | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova patches status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:10 | |
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| claudiub | so, the last hyper-v feature to merge in nova in Ocata is the PCI passthrough. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | #link Hyper-V PCI passthrough devices: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420614/ | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | i'll have to update the openstack docs for this as well. | 13:12 |
| claudiub | i'll probably start doing that next week. | 13:12 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi... I am back | 13:13 |
| claudiub | oh hi. :) | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | anybody there ? | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | i got connected few mins early | 13:13 |
| claudiub | just us it seems. | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | and then lost network | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | yeah, i was late for the meeting, sorry. :) | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | network issues with my data provider | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | off late... getting disconnected often | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:14 |
| claudiub | don't pay them then. :D | 13:14 |
| claudiub | anyways, the current topic is nova patches status | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | yes.... i think i should do that | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
| claudiub | and I was saying that the Hyper-V PCI passthrough patch merged | 13:14 |
| claudiub | and it is the last feature to merge in nova in Ocata. | 13:14 |
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| sagar_nikam | nice | 13:14 |
| claudiub | everything else if frozen, except bugfixes, if any. | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | any bug fixes planned ? | 13:15 |
| domi007 | oh hi all :D | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi domi007: | 13:15 |
| claudiub | haven't started the testing phase yet, so don't know. :) but the Hyper-V CI is up and green. | 13:16 |
| claudiub | domi007: hello. :D | 13:16 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
| domi007 | sorry for not being that active, currently swamped with including HyperV bootstrapping in an Ansible playbook | 13:17 |
| claudiub | anyways. I was asked a few things about Hyper-V SR-IOV and how it works. Just FYI, we don't have support for that yet, but I'm planning to add support for that as soon as possible. | 13:17 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
| claudiub | domi007: no problem, wb. :) would be interesting to hear about that in the open discussion. :D | 13:18 |
| domi007 | sure :) | 13:18 |
| claudiub | that's pretty much it for this topic. | 13:19 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:19 |
| domi007 | no | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:20 |
| claudiub | cool, moving on. | 13:20 |
| claudiub | #topic Ocata release status | 13:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata release status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:20 | |
| claudiub | so, the next deadline is tomorrow, to have the stable/ocata branches cut. | 13:20 |
| claudiub | I've already sent requests for this for networking-hyperv and os-win | 13:20 |
| claudiub | should be done until then. | 13:20 |
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| claudiub | with those stable branches, we'll also have release candidates for those projects | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | what are the changes in os-win ? | 13:21 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: there isn't any change to os-win, it is just a request to create the stable/ocata branch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427662/ | 13:22 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:22 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:23 |
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| claudiub | just a few things here from me | 13:23 |
| claudiub | first of all, I'll have to update the openstack docs for the nova PCI passthrough stuff. | 13:24 |
| claudiub | to include details about Hyper-V and how they can be used. | 13:24 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
| claudiub | secondly, I'll be going to the Atlanta OpenStack PTG, so if anyone there want to meetup, I'd be more than happy to meetup. :) | 13:25 |
| claudiub | domi007: so, you were saying about ansible Hyper-V playbooks. | 13:26 |
| claudiub | can you share some details with us? | 13:26 |
| domi007 | sure | 13:27 |
| domi007 | so basically we are in the transition to Newton | 13:27 |
| domi007 | and we decided to use the Openstack-Ansible project | 13:28 |
| domi007 | that has proven to be great according to many production systems around the world apparently | 13:28 |
| domi007 | so we decided to automate everything using Ansible including HyperV compute hosts with OVS | 13:28 |
| domi007 | currently it seems there are no issues with this approach, although Ansible's Windows support is quite basic, but with some PowerShell scripts we can overcome that | 13:29 |
| claudiub | domi007: interesting. are you planning to send those playbooks upstream? | 13:30 |
| domi007 | we are not sure yet | 13:30 |
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| domi007 | they aren't as pretty as they could, for example windows hosts are defined in a different inventory file instead of using openstack-ansible's dynamic inventory | 13:31 |
| domi007 | so there is definitely room for improvement, but it should work in the end | 13:31 |
| domi007 | also I guess this is the time to point out, that documentation-wise HyperV and OVS is not that mature yet :P | 13:31 |
| domi007 | the Newton HyperV guide is a good starting point, but it isn't complete at all, and some config options are deprecated or wrong | 13:32 |
| claudiub | domi007: hmm, is there any documentation missing? we have some guides on Windows OVS. | 13:32 |
| domi007 | http://docs.openstack.org/newton/config-reference/compute/hypervisor-hyper-v.html | 13:33 |
| domi007 | I meant this firstly | 13:33 |
| domi007 | Your guides are good actually, although some config options needed to be adjusted | 13:33 |
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| domi007 | Actually I wanted to get some input from you on some questions we had regarding to our architecture | 13:34 |
| claudiub | domi007: yeah, that openstack docs page should get an update. :) I didn't look at it since.... a while. :D | 13:35 |
| domi007 | makes sense :) | 13:35 |
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| claudiub | as for windows OVS, there's this guide which should help: https://cloudbase.it/open-vswitch-2-5-hyper-v-part-1/ | 13:35 |
| domi007 | So the questions: is it considered good practice to use ScaleOut Failover Cluster File server for cinder-volumes? | 13:36 |
| domi007 | We are planning on using 2 storage heads serving SMB | 13:36 |
| domi007 | should we install cinder-volume on both, and connect them to openstack, or use haproxy? The heads will connect to the same shared storage | 13:36 |
| domi007 | appliance | 13:37 |
| claudiub | hmm.. | 13:38 |
| claudiub | soo, the best idea would be to register that cinder-volume service as a cluster service | 13:39 |
| domi007 | meaning that haproxy should manage which head gets the request? | 13:39 |
| claudiub | if a host containing that service goes down, it will automatically be restarted on another node. | 13:39 |
| domi007 | oh I see | 13:39 |
| domi007 | so a single cinder-volume service that can migrate between the heads | 13:40 |
| domi007 | interesting | 13:40 |
| claudiub | if you have 2 cinder-volume services running on the same shared filesystem, you will get inconsistentcies when it comes to reported storage left | 13:40 |
| domi007 | makes sense, we need to avoid that for sure | 13:41 |
| claudiub | pretty much like how nova-compute nodes have the same issue on shared storage. | 13:41 |
| claudiub | at least this issue is being fixed on nova | 13:41 |
| domi007 | this is actually good, because Cinder will be HA, but the HyperV servers can use SMB multipath power | 13:41 |
| domi007 | is being right now? :) | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | i have tried a POC some years back on cinder-volume HA using failover cluster | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | worked very well | 13:42 |
| domi007 | thanks for the feedback, we'll go down that route | 13:42 |
| domi007 | also what's the current status on Security Groups and OVS in Newton? | 13:42 |
| claudiub | domi007: yeah, that sounds good. :) | 13:43 |
| claudiub | security groups on OVS.. so, if you are using OVS 2.5, you'll have to use the HyperVSecurityGroupsDriver. if you are using 2.6, you can use either that, or the normal OVS one. | 13:44 |
| lpetrut | hi guys | 13:44 |
| domi007 | nice | 13:44 |
| domi007 | we are using 2.6 for sure | 13:44 |
| claudiub | then both should work. :) | 13:45 |
| domi007 | performance-wise the OVS one is better right? | 13:45 |
| claudiub | anyways. lpetrut knows a lot more about cinder than me. :) | 13:45 |
| domi007 | :) I see | 13:45 |
| lpetrut | about Cinder HA, there are a few ways to achieve this | 13:45 |
| domi007 | I'm all ears | 13:45 |
| domi007 | err, eyes? I guess :D | 13:45 |
| lpetrut | as you guys were saying, Cinder is now aiming to provide in-built HA capabilities, defining concepts such as clusters | 13:46 |
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| lpetrut | AFAIK, this is still a work in proggress, which leads us to the second option: | 13:47 |
| lpetrut | defining the Cinder service as a Windows clustered service | 13:47 |
| domi007 | exactly | 13:47 |
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| lpetrut | the advantage of the Cinder native HA feature will be the fact that it will work as a Active-Active cluster | 13:48 |
| domi007 | I see, but I guess it is not a true requirement, since the VHDX access goes through SMB anyways | 13:48 |
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| domi007 | but I understand naturally the intention behind it | 13:49 |
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| lpetrut | yeah, but even if the vhdx themselves remain available, you want your Cinder service to be as highly available as possible as well | 13:49 |
| domi007 | naturally | 13:49 |
| domi007 | one last thing | 13:50 |
| lpetrut | sure | 13:50 |
| domi007 | HyperV Clusters. If I'm correct you implemented a driver for them | 13:50 |
| lpetrut | yep | 13:50 |
| domi007 | so in theory we can offer clients highly available instances | 13:50 |
| domi007 | is it included in Newton? Is it stable for production? | 13:50 |
| claudiub | domi007: one little thing to keep in mind. make sure that cluster-registered cinder-volume service has a "cluster-available" hostname. meaning that it would be bad if the cinder-volume service moves from one node to another and its hostname changes. cinder would see it as a different cinder-volume service. | 13:51 |
| claudiub | domi007: I think we've added the Cluster support since Mitaka | 13:52 |
| domi007 | of course, in my head I was already thinking of VIP/hostnames | 13:52 |
| domi007 | I see | 13:52 |
| lpetrut | yep, it's included in Newton. we have some customers that are now going to use it in production | 13:53 |
| domi007 | nice! | 13:53 |
| domi007 | it is great to see this project mature so much | 13:53 |
| claudiub | also, since you are moving to newton, there is a small detail to keep in mind when upgrading | 13:53 |
| domi007 | yes? | 13:53 |
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| claudiub | nova "broke" support for out-of-tree drivers, meaning that until mitaka, you would have in the nova.conf file the driver "hyperv.nova.driver.HyperVDriver" or "hyperv.cluster.driver.HyperVClusterDriver". starting with newton, it has to be "compute_hyperv.driver.HyperVDriver" or "compute_hyperv.cluster.driver.HyperVClusterDriver" | 13:55 |
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| claudiub | just a small fyi, there were questions about this a few times in the past. :) | 13:55 |
| domi007 | hahhahaha | 13:55 |
| domi007 | I had that issue just 2 days ago | 13:55 |
| domi007 | I struggled for 2 hours :D | 13:56 |
| claudiub | :D | 13:56 |
| domi007 | then found in importutils.py that it prepends the config string with nova.driver :D | 13:56 |
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| domi007 | so yeah, got the experience first hand :D thanks for the heads up anyways :) | 13:56 |
| claudiub | yeah, I found out that change during the Newton OpenStack Summit, when I was under fire to fix it asap. :D | 13:57 |
| domi007 | haha, better late then never I guess | 13:57 |
| domi007 | but other than these little annoying things Newton seems really good to me | 13:57 |
| claudiub | nice, I'm glad. :D | 13:58 |
| domi007 | so I have high hopes :) | 13:58 |
| domi007 | huh, I took up all the time, sorry :( | 13:58 |
| claudiub | anyways. any questions, news? | 13:58 |
| claudiub | domi007: no problem. :) | 13:58 |
| claudiub | if you do decide to submit those Hyper-V ansible playbooks upstream, let us know. :D | 13:59 |
| domi007 | for sure | 13:59 |
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| claudiub | anyways. our time is up. | 14:00 |
| claudiub | thanks folks for joining | 14:00 |
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| claudiub | see you next week! :D | 14:00 |
| domi007 | see you | 14:00 |
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| claudiub | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 14:00:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-02-01-13.04.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-02-01-13.04.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-02-01-13.04.log.html | 14:00 |
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| tobberydberg | Anyone here for the publiccloud-wg meeting? =) | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Hi Sean! | 14:01 |
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| seanhandley | hey Tobias | 14:02 |
| seanhandley | I may need to disappear partway through - expecting a delivery this afternoon | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | I guess we wait a couple of minutes before starting this meeting | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | No problem | 14:02 |
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| seanhandley | You there zhipengh? | 14:03 |
| seanhandley | hi Miouge | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Some guys seams to have joined the channel at least | 14:04 |
| Miouge | Hi there, it’s the PublicCloud WG meeting here right? | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | Yes! | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | Welcome =) | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | serverascode: you here for the Public Cloud meeting? | 14:04 |
| zhipengh | hey seanhandley | 14:05 |
| seanhandley | o/ | 14:05 |
| seanhandley | Nick @ DataCentred should be online shortly | 14:05 |
| zhipengh | great :) | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | Ok, good! Lets wait a few more minutes then to let people in | 14:05 |
| zhipengh | happy Chinese New Year everyone | 14:06 |
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| zhipengh | we are still on vacation in China actually | 14:06 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | Sounds nice! | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | Oh yeah - is it the year of the rooster now? | 14:06 |
| zhipengh | or the year of the cock lol | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | ha | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | With Trump inaugurated, I can believe that | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | haha | 14:08 |
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| tobberydberg | 2 more minutes and then we start. Ok? | 14:09 |
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| zhipengh | seanhandley exactly :P | 14:09 |
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| zhipengh | tobberydberg ok | 14:09 |
| seanhandley | Perhaps the year of the rooster is the reason I keep waking up early this week -_- | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | Have not affected me yet =) | 14:10 |
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| tobberydberg | Ok, I think that we start this meeting | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud_wg | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 14:11:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | Welcome everyone :) I think we are 5-6 in the room right? | 14:12 |
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| zhipengh | yep | 14:12 |
| Miouge | Sounds about right | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | You will have to be gentle - first meeting I'm the chair ;-) | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | ok..first topic.. | 14:13 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Reveiw last weeks agenda items (APs) | 14:13 |
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| tobberydberg | We had 3 actions from last meeting | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | in order - zhipengh - come up with a template for case studies | 14:14 |
| zhipengh | so I've been discussing this matter with colleagues from product working group | 14:14 |
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| zhipengh | and I think it might be a good idea to use the pwg's user story to document our case studies | 14:15 |
| zhipengh | they got repo, template, mechanism, everything | 14:15 |
| zhipengh | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/ | 14:15 |
| zhipengh | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories | 14:16 |
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| zhipengh | any thoughts on that ? | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | I think that sounds good | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | Trying to have a look at it | 14:17 |
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| seanhandley | Looks sensible +1 | 14:17 |
| zhipengh | one example could be #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/user-stories/proposed/baremetal-service.html | 14:17 |
| yankcrime | i think some of the broader ones look fine as an example | 14:17 |
| yankcrime | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/user-stories/proposed/lifecycle-management.html | 14:17 |
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| zhipengh | yes yankcrime | 14:17 |
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| yankcrime | i think the case studies we produce should reflect the diversity of workloads that public clouds typically entertain | 14:19 |
| yankcrime | so a simple template with fairly generic and broad sections would work well imo | 14:19 |
| zhipengh | agree, we reflect the public cloud specific requirements in the details | 14:20 |
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| tobberydberg | agree | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | More opinions about this? | 14:21 |
| yankcrime | there'll be at least a couple of things common to all - why public cloud was a key requirement from a customer's pov, and what we as public cloud operators do with our infrastructure to make sure our openstack installations are up to the task | 14:21 |
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| tobberydberg | Agree | 14:23 |
| Miouge | Yep | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | That one should definitely be there | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | Maybe we should have a couple more things to be in common? | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | Any thoughts? | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | If not, lets leave it for now and go to a vote about using that structure for the user stories? | 14:26 |
| yankcrime | challenges that the customer faced, was there anything in particular about openstack that really helped (or even hindered) the project, problems and solutions really i guess | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | That's a good one as well! | 14:27 |
| Miouge | Good stuff about lifecycle management, I would also see something around identity management and capacity management. As a Public Cloud those 2 point bring additional challenges compared to a private cloud or enterprise | 14:27 |
| yankcrime | i say we take a cut of one of those templates and use that as a basis for an example public cloud case study, once we're happy with the structure and what's captured after we've updated the template can be used for further case studies | 14:27 |
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| yankcrime | Miouge: deffo | 14:27 |
| yankcrime | capacity management is a big problem for smaller public cloud operators | 14:28 |
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| yankcrime | and let's face it we're all small in comparison to aws, microsoft et al ;) | 14:28 |
| zhipengh | I think we could add a public cloud specfic section to the template | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | Hehe, we all are =) | 14:28 |
| zhipengh | which is something like "implementation considerations" | 14:28 |
| zhipengh | we could put id mgmt, capacity, lcm | 14:28 |
| zhipengh | all in that section | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | I agree with you yankcrime about cutting a part of that template to an example | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | Is that the way to move forward? | 14:31 |
| yankcrime | we probably need to get moving with this fairly quickly if we want to have something in place for boston, so that seems like a sensible way to get this moving along | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | Lets put that to a vote then | 14:31 |
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| tobberydberg | #startvote Can we agree on that we should create an example public cloud case story and then you that as template (Based up on the product working group template)? Yes, No | 14:35 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Can we agree on that we should create an example public cloud case story and then you that as template (Based up on the product working group template)? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 14:35 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:35 |
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| yankcrime | #vote Yes | 14:35 |
| seanhandley | #vote Yes | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | #vote Yes | 14:35 |
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| tobberydberg | More votes? | 14:36 |
| zhipengh | #vote yes | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | #endvote | 14:36 |
| openstack | Voted on "Can we agree on that we should create an example public cloud case story and then you that as template (Based up on the product working group template)?" Results are | 14:36 |
| openstack | Yes (4): zhipengh, yankcrime, tobberydberg, seanhandley | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Ok. zhipengh: Something you are interested in setting up? | 14:37 |
| zhipengh | tobberydberg no problem | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | Thank you! | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | \o/ | 14:38 |
| zhipengh | :) | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | i don't mind helping zhipengh - feel like i've just created a load of work for you! | 14:38 |
| zhipengh | yankcrime you could help reviewing :P | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | no problemo | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | #action zhipengh setting up basic structure of user story example - with help =) | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | Next action from last meeting is on me | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | List of problem areas | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | and features missing for public clouds | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | I did send you a link yesterday | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA/edit#gid=0 | 14:40 |
| yankcrime | tobberydberg: where was that sent to? first time i've seen it tbh... | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | A start for that list - feel free to add items and edit as you wish | 14:41 |
| Miouge | yankcrime: same here | 14:41 |
| zhipengh | thx tobberydberg | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | Sorry, my bad | 14:41 |
| yankcrime | looks like a really good start though tobberydberg | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | I just added it to the agenda at the etherpad... | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | So its understandable you haven't seen it before =) | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks! Had good help from @seanhandley | 14:42 |
| zhipengh | :) | 14:42 |
| Miouge | Great stuff | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | It's a good start that list - I'm sure there's many more things we can add over time | 14:43 |
| Miouge | What is implied with “Full support for tenant specific provider networks.” can we be more specific about things lacking? | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | I guess we keep that a living document for now and let it grow =) | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, of course | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | 15 minutes left...moving on a bit here it that is ok and if we have time we can discuss that more | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | Matt had the next - update wiki with agreed milestones for Boston | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | I believe he did? | 14:45 |
| yankcrime | yup, under scope? | 14:45 |
| yankcrime | i think that looks good | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | I think so to! | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | Next topic | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Discuss "User story template" | 14:47 |
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| tobberydberg | I guess we can say that we covered that one for this meeting already? | 14:47 |
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| tobberydberg | Or do we have more to add right now? | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | Yeah tobberydberg | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | i.e. I think we covered it | 14:48 |
| yankcrime | i think that's done, yeah | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | good | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Forum submission | 14:48 |
| yankcrime | there was one other action that was supposed to rollover btw, which was a 'definitions' section on the wiki | 14:48 |
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| yankcrime | that's been done, as you can see | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | aha, missed that one | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | ok, good! | 14:49 |
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| yankcrime | :D | 14:49 |
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| tobberydberg | ok, so thats all good then =) | 14:49 |
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| tobberydberg | Forum session submission .... It's more of a question to the group if you think we should submit for a session there. Thought about that? | 14:50 |
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| tobberydberg | ...at Boston summit that is... | 14:51 |
| zhipengh | Forum is different from the usual CFP ? | 14:51 |
| yankcrime | might be nice to do something that introduces the public cloud WG | 14:51 |
| yankcrime | if that's what you mean? | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | The Forum is the part of Summit that replaces the Design Summit | 14:52 |
| zhipengh | we should get the maximum exposure for sure | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | I think that we should submit for it | 14:53 |
| yankcrime | let's put it to a vote | 14:53 |
| yankcrime | (although i suspect we're all going to say yes ;) ) | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | #startvote Submit for a forum session at the Boston summit? Yes, No | 14:54 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Submit for a forum session at the Boston summit? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 14:54 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | #Yes | 14:54 |
| zhipengh | #vote yes | 14:54 |
| seanhandley | #vote Yes | 14:54 |
| yankcrime | #vote Yes | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | #vote yes | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | #endvote | 14:54 |
| openstack | Voted on "Submit for a forum session at the Boston summit?" Results are | 14:54 |
| openstack | Yes (4): zhipengh, yankcrime, tobberydberg, seanhandley | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg will check for deadline dates for submission | 14:55 |
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| tobberydberg | Good, I check deadline and we take it from there. | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Time flies | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Does anyone have something else they would like to put to discussion? | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | The last thing on the agenda can be pushed | 14:57 |
| yankcrime | nothing from me | 14:57 |
| zhipengh | i'm all good :) | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | I got nothing :) | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | Ok. Lets push that one to next meeting since time is almost up. | 14:58 |
| yankcrime | 👍 | 14:58 |
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| tobberydberg | Thank you all for today then! ....and for beeing gentle with me =) | 14:59 |
| yankcrime | thanks tobberydberg and good job :) | 14:59 |
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| zhipengh | thx tobias | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | Thank you =) | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | You did well tobberydberg | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | Take care folks - see you next time o/ | 14:59 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 15:00:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-02-01-14.11.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-02-01-14.11.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-02-01-14.11.log.html | 15:00 |
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| tobberydberg | Yes, see you next week! | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| zhipengh | c y'all | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 15:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday February 1 2017 (15:00 UTC) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.What were the most important features added in the Ocata release? In response to Nick Chase, Editor in Chief, OpenStack:Unlocked. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Review new blueprints: Lot's of exciting new developments in progress. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Templated alarms: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/templated-alarms | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Monasca sidecar: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/monasca-sidecar | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Prometheus instrumentation: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/prometheus-instrumentation | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Mapper: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420774/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 5.Log Query API: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/log-query-api | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 6.Alarm inhibition/silencing | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 7.Alarm grouping | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 8.Monasca Query Language (MQL) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Reviews | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427571/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.FYI: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425152/ | 15:00 |
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| bklei | o\ | 15:01 |
| rbak__ | o/ | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | hi | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | looks like a good agenda to cover this week | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | exciting times are ahead | 15:01 |
| notq | hi | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | witek: are there any items you need to cover on the ocata release? | 15:02 |
| witek | stable branch comes soon | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | it sounds like we are in good shape | 15:03 |
| witek | but we can wait till we have everything what we need in | 15:03 |
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| dhague | o/ | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's get started then | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic What were the most important features added in the Ocata release? | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | i had an email form Nick Chase the other day asking about the most important features that we've done for the Ocata release | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | i owe him a response | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | i realize this release we didn't add as many features | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | but, the future is looking really good | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | anyway, if anyone has an important feature that i should response to nick chase about, please let me know | 15:05 |
| witek | Kibana plugin for logs has been added as OpenStack repo | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | and what does that include specifically? | 15:06 |
| witek | authorisation and multi-tenancy | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | Are all the queries now scoped to the tenand ID? | 15:07 |
| witek | the ES indeces are scoped per project | 15:07 |
| witek | yes | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | So, basically parity with Grafana, in a snese | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | sense | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ? | 15:08 |
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| witek | with the difference, that it does not use monasca-datasource | 15:08 |
| witek | but basicaly yes | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | and, it still requires your forked version of Kibana? | 15:09 |
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| witek | no, no forked Kibana | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | so, it basically integrates with the Kibana plugin system | 15:10 |
| witek | correct | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | without any changes to their source | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | note to future self, pay more attention | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | witek: that is really great news! | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | your team has made great progress | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | did ES ever get back to you? | 15:11 |
| witek | thank you, I will forward to the team :) | 15:11 |
| witek | no | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, basically, this is all working without any help or involvement from ES? | 15:12 |
| witek | right | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | fantastic! | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, do folks have any other favorite features worth mentioning | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i know Tomasz has done a lot of work | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | adding support for the request ID to the monasca APIs was done | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | there was a lot of infra work | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | there are some great things in progress | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | support for InfluxDB 1.1 was added | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | by me | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | can't forget that | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:14 |
| witek | thank you rhochmuth | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | several interesting additions to the agent | 15:14 |
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| Guest20448 | @Roland support for influxdb 1.1. -- is that for Java implementaiton? | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | support for docker, kubernetes and prometheus | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | Guest20448: That was only completed for the Python code | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | So, I think I have enough for Nick | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | I'll cc several folks, on my response | 15:16 |
| hoppalm | the docker plugin is in the agent. | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | ahh yes, thanks | 15:17 |
| hoppalm | the kubernetes and prometheus monitoring is still up for review | 15:17 |
| hoppalm | :( | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | that's ok, i think i'll fdiscuss a lot of the great work that is in progress | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | too | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | but, the kibana work will be the highlight | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | of this release | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | #topic blueprints and upcoming work | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i wanted to point out that there is a lot of work in progress | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | several blueprints have been created | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | and a few more are about to be created | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | Templated alarm descriptions for human readable alerts | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/templated-alarms | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | There is an implementation that is available on sap's own branch | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | that will get moved over at some point | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | but, want to make folks aware of what is coming and to start to provide feedback | 15:21 |
| jobrs | ... in the near future | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs: thx | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | last week we discussed, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/monasca-sidecar | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | wanted to check-in on whether anyone has had sometime to look at this and supply feedback | 15:22 |
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| timothyb89 | it sounds like some of the issues seen with monasca-statsd that led to the sidecar are being resolved | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | timothyv89: how so? | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | timothyb89: ^ | 15:24 |
| timothyb89 | now that we're supporting dogstatsd: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426706/ | 15:24 |
| jobrs | we created statsd-coverage for notification, persister and api without running into issues | 15:24 |
| timothyb89 | one of the issues we saw was language support, dogstatsd has bindings for many languages | 15:24 |
| jobrs | IMHO we should just add compatibility to the agent. | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | agress | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | agree | 15:25 |
| jobrs | submitted the first part yesterday. What is missing is (restored) support for histograms | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | i thought the sidecar was also desirable for other reasons in a kubernetes env | 15:26 |
| hoppalm | yes | 15:26 |
| timothyb89 | it still does solve some problems, yes | 15:26 |
| jobrs | +1, for blackbox monitoring | 15:26 |
| hoppalm | running the statsd as side container still carries the need then for authenticating with the api unless you run the statsd as a service in kubernetes which causes high udp traffic | 15:27 |
| jobrs | we use prom-statsd sidecar | 15:27 |
| hoppalm | yes i think that is the right answer | 15:27 |
| jobrs | which is compatible to DogStatsd | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | so, is the statsd work jobrs is adding as replacing the sidecar | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | or do we want both | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | i thought both | 15:28 |
| jobrs | yep | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | ok, so i think we are good then | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i'm actually going to try to start reviewing code again | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | sorry, i've been really busy and got behind on any significant reviews | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | and relying on others to carry this work forward and keep it moving along | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | So, on a related topic, there is the "mapper", | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420774/ | 15:30 |
| jobrs | let me add one thing to statsd: I believe monasca-sidecar is great, but it would be perfect if only it would process DogStatsd | 15:31 |
| hoppalm | +1 to ^ | 15:31 |
| hoppalm | and in regards to the review I will be looking at it again today or tomorrow | 15:31 |
| timothyb89 | that is an option as well, sure | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | thx jobrs and timothyb89 | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | there is a new blueprint for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/log-query-api | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | adding a log query api | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | this is being worked on by witek and steve simpson | 15:33 |
| witek | oposite order | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | Also see, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Logging/Query_API_Design | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | OK, Steve is leading the charge | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | witek is contributing to it | 15:34 |
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| witek | Steve, are you there? | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | And, we have a number of engineers at HPE working at alarm inhibition, alarm silencing, alarm grouping, and a new MOnasca QUery Language (MQL) | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | blueprints will be showing up soon for those other areas that i mentioned | 15:35 |
| bklei | that's great -- charter has talked about alarm silencing too | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | where's waldo? | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | also, there is a lot of work in creating helm charts for monasca between hpe and sap | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | or sap and hpe | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | no blueprint for that | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | i'm wondering with all this work if we should plan on a mid-cycle | 15:37 |
| witek | sure | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | seems like we have enough that a couple of days of focused planning and discussions would be a good idea | 15:38 |
| bklei | +1 | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | do we want to do this in late february | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | slightly before or after the PTG | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | just in case someone is going to the PTG? | 15:38 |
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| bklei | no conflict from charter guys | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | we could hold it then on wednesday adn thursday during the same week of ptg | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | if there aren't any conflicts | 15:40 |
| witek | is SAP going to PTG? | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs: ^^^ | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | dhague: ^^^ | 15:41 |
| jobrs | currently not planned | 15:42 |
| jobrs | our impression was that participation would be very low on Monasca | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | we woudl like to do our own monasca mid-cycle remotely | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | via videoconferenceing the same week as ptg | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | probably wednesday and thursday | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | if that works for you and your team? | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | basically, in three weeks | 15:43 |
| jobrs | should be fine | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | cool, sounds good to me then | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | let's tentatively mark that wed and thursday down and unless any conficts occur we'll meet remotely that week | 15:44 |
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| witek | +! | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427571/ | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i just added a +1 | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425152/ | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | this looks good to me | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz has been busy | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425559/ | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356403/ | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | I'll take a look at both of the above | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | but, it looks good to me | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | i think that is the end of today's agenda | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | #topic open floor | 15:50 |
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| jobrs | I have a very technical question about the thresholder | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs: sure | 15:51 |
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| jobrs | we observe that deleted alarm-definitions resp. their alarms are still processed, causing alarm-state-transition messages | 15:51 |
| jobrs | until we restart/kill the thresholder. | 15:51 |
| jobrs | we recognised this after we introduced a canary test which creates temporary alarm-definitions every minute | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | if you delete the alarm definition, all alarms created by the definition should have been deleted too | 15:52 |
| jobrs | no errors or suspicious entries in the logs. | 15:52 |
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| jobrs | config DB is also clean; code-review of thesholder did also not reveal anything suspicious | 15:53 |
| rbrndt | jobrs: thats a lot of alarm definitions to be pushing through the system on a constant basis | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | hmmm, we can take a look and verify | 15:53 |
| rbrndt | I can tell you something that may help in debugging | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | so, if i understand, you create an alarm defiition, which results in new alarms | 15:54 |
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| rbrndt | If i'm not mistaken it is still the API which handles the alarm definition deletion, while the threshold engine waits for a message on kafka before clearing it's internal memory | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | then, you delete the alarm definition, and the alarms are still there? | 15:55 |
| jobrs | I delete the alarm-definition, the API updates the deleted_at field and the alarms are cleared from the database by the thesholder event handler. | 15:55 |
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| jobrs | our cleanup job takes care of the rest: removing alarm-definitions with deleted_at != null from the tables | 15:56 |
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| jobrs | the database is clean. but if I watch the alarm-state-transitions topic (using kafkacat) I observe new messages about very old alarms/alarmdefs | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | hmmm, so the threshold engine still has the alarm definition or alarm | 15:57 |
| jobrs | rbrndt, rhochmuth: continue on IRC? | 15:57 |
| jobrs | yes | 15:58 |
| rbrndt | has a bug been filed about this? | 15:58 |
| jobrs | no | 15:58 |
| rbrndt | it sounds like something that is probably happening everywhere, perhaps we should continue in a bug report | 15:58 |
| jobrs | and I could not believe that this is a bug in the code. So we are looking for other explanations | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | on the surface sounds like a bug | 15:59 |
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| jobrs | thanks, that is a good proposal. I will file a bug and let you know, ok? | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | if you can create a report | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | that woudl be great | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | we'll sdtart looking into ti | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | we started alrady ? | 15:59 |
| rbrndt | lots of detail will help us reproduce this faster | 15:59 |
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| jobrs | sure | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | tomasztrebski: we started an hour ago | 16:00 |
| jobrs | I just wanted to check whether you ran into something similar | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | we are wrapping up | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | thanks jobrs | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | i need to end the meeting | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | for the next group | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | damn it...I messed up hours | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasztrebski: i saw your reviews in the etherpad agenda | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | i'l; review | 16:00 |
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| tomasztrebski | rhochmuth: thx | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | see you all next week | 16:01 |
| notq | cheers everyone | 16:01 |
| tomasztrebski | bey | 16:01 |
| rhochmuth | or sooner | 16:01 |
| tomasztrebski | *bye | 16:01 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 16:01:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-02-01-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-02-01-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-02-01-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 16:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #chair markvoelker_ | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker_ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| gema | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.11 | 16:02 |
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| eglute | hello everyone, please review the posted agenda and update as needed | 16:02 |
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| eglute | Chris is attending offsite, so he wont be able to join us I dont think | 16:03 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:03 |
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| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:03 |
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| * markvoelker_ is battling a virus he picked up last week while traveling, pardon my slow typing today | 16:03 | |
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| * eglute hopes markvoelker_ recovers quickly | 16:04 | |
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| eglute | just a reminder that the PTG is coming up, and hope to see everyone there: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RefStackInteropWGAtlantaPTG | 16:04 |
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| eglute | we still need to work on the agenda, so please propose any topics that are not there yet | 16:05 |
| eglute | any questions or comments about PTG? | 16:05 |
| eglute | #topic boston summit | 16:06 |
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| eglute | I think the submissions close soon- has anyone submitted anything interop/refstack related? | 16:07 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: I have a session with topol and tongli | 16:08 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ great, would you mind posting a topic/title? | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker_ | Will do. Basic premise is updates on two sides of the interop coin (InteropWG and Interop Challenge) and where we're going next | 16:09 |
| eglute | that sounds great | 16:09 |
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| eglute | I would like to submit interop 101 session that would cover the new guidelines/programs we are working on. Hopefully by then we would have something to share | 16:09 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:09 |
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| eglute | luzC: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.11 | 16:10 |
| eglute | catherineD do you have anything submitted yet for boston? | 16:10 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: FYI there was also a brief discussion this morning about doing an interop workshop. E.g. how to write workloads that work across clouds. More an Interop Challenege topic, but related. | 16:11 |
| catherineD | not yet | 16:11 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ that sounds good too | 16:11 |
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| eglute | well, there are still a few days for submissions- let us know what you submit | 16:12 |
| eglute | anything else regarding boston summit? | 16:13 |
| eglute | #topic Flagging removed test: | 16:13 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426982/ and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427720/ | 16:14 |
| eglute | looks like we have two patches for the same thing | 16:14 |
| eglute | any objections to merging one of those? | 16:15 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: I left a +2 on the first | 16:15 |
| eglute | i think we need to merge the first one posted, but i am ok merging the second one as well | 16:15 |
| eglute | what do others think | 16:16 |
| markvoelker_ | The first one's ready to go with one more +2, so let's use that. | 16:17 |
| luzC | markvoelker_ +1 | 16:17 |
| eglute | ok thanks! | 16:17 |
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| eglute | merged! | 16:18 |
| eglute | #topic Flagging two network-l2-CRUD tests | 16:19 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422715/ | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flagging two network-l2-CRUD tests (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:19 | |
| eglute | I think that patch needs to be updated based on comments, but I am ok with flagging those tests. | 16:20 |
| markvoelker_ | I've been studying this a bit trying to figure out if anyone is counting on no security groups or user defined macs | 16:21 |
| markvoelker_ | So far I'm not finding a lot of evidence that they'd be widely missed for general purpose compute clouds | 16:21 |
| markvoelker_ | Although I'll add that most of the providers I've looked at so far do actually support these | 16:22 |
| catherineD | markvoelker_: maybe we should check with DreamHost and OVH? | 16:22 |
| markvoelker_ | I think I'm ok with landing the change, though it does need a bit of work. | 16:22 |
| eglute | +1 | 16:22 |
| markvoelker_ | I'll add some commentary around that this afternoon | 16:22 |
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| eglute | thanks markvoelker_ | 16:23 |
| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:23 |
| eglute | #Topic Glance change: Implement and Enable Community Images | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance change: Implement and Enable Community Images (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:24 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369110/ | 16:24 |
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| eglute | anyone have a chance to look into this? | 16:24 |
| eglute | i dont think it will affect guidelines based on what i read | 16:25 |
| markvoelker_ | That was on my list this week...but the viruses won out this week. =( I'll keep working on it once I'm back on my feet though. | 16:25 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker_! | 16:25 |
| eglute | #topic Name change | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Name change (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:26 | |
| eglute | i assume this was also affected by the virus :) | 16:26 |
| markvoelker_ | A bit. =) I have most of the work done locally | 16:26 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker_! | 16:26 |
| markvoelker_ | However we need to get this on the infra agenda. I'll take care of that in the next day or two | 16:26 |
| eglute | thanks! | 16:27 |
| * eglute recently read snowcrash and hopes virus doesn't spread | 16:27 | |
| eglute | #action markvoelker_ will put name change on infra agenda | 16:27 |
| eglute | #topic New components/add-on programs | 16:28 |
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| eglute | hogepodge was going to start working on the schema, so if you have any suggestions, let us know | 16:28 |
| eglute | we will be looking at adding OpenStack/NFV guideline | 16:29 |
| eglute | we will be working with OPNFV on that one | 16:29 |
| eglute | anybody in this group have experience with NFV? | 16:30 |
| markvoelker_ | o/ | 16:30 |
| eglute | great! | 16:30 |
| * eglute will be learning a lot from markvoelker_ | 16:30 | |
| eglute | this covers our meeting agenda for today... | 16:31 |
| eglute | #topic open discussion | 16:31 |
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| eglute | anything else for today? | 16:31 |
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| eglute | in that case, we will end the meeting early! | 16:32 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 16:32 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ feel better! | 16:32 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 16:32:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-02-01-16.01.html | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-02-01-16.01.txt | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-02-01-16.01.log.html | 16:33 |
| markvoelker_ | thanks! | 16:33 |
| catherineD | bye | 16:33 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | anyone actually around? | 17:00 |
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| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | cool, so, I'm currently working on a couple things for cells stuff, so I propose we keep this uuber short | 17:01 |
| melwitt | okay | 17:01 |
| dansmith | mriedem and I have been trying to chase down this bug related to a boot..delete..reboot thing, | 17:01 |
| dansmith | and I want to work some more on my scheduler discover_hosts patch before rc1 | 17:02 |
| dansmith | anything else you think needs raising at the moment? | 17:02 |
| melwitt | something I said I would do that I had forgotten about is write up common use cases and what nova-manage commands to use for cells v2 | 17:02 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:03 |
| melwitt | other than that, I don't know of anything outstanding | 17:04 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:04 |
| dansmith | well, then I propose we adjourn and get back to work | 17:04 |
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| melwitt | cool | 17:04 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:04 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-02-01-17.00.html | 17:04 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 20:01:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hullo robcresswell :-) | 20:01 |
| lcastell | o/ | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | if david-lyle is here then we have a full house | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | speak of the devil... | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | you summoned him!! | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | :o | 20:02 |
| ediardo | o/ | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | just a few things I need to mention | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Ocata RC1 this week | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:02 |
| asettle | Woah look here, we have a horizon meeting | 20:03 |
| * asettle waltzes in | 20:03 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'll be tagging RC1 tomorrow. That basically means a hard string freeze. No patches should be merged that change strings unless you've got an exemption. | 20:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai alex | 20:03 |
| asettle | r1chardj0n3s: WASSUP | 20:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: you've still got a patch in play under FFE - how's that looking? | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | access & security reorg is done btw, pending reviews. There's probably bit I've missed/ done wrong | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/reorganise-access-and-security | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | thats the last 2 patches for it. | 20:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right, I'll review those as my top priority today, hopefully nothing too outrageously bad in them :-) | 20:04 |
| ediardo | I'll review 'em too | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | I do have a tendency to write outrageously bad code | 20:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah but as long as it's not *too* outrageously bad, you'll be ok this time :-D | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | I'm looking at the floating IP one now | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | floating_ips is annoyingly bloated because git won't acknowledge that the views.py is the same | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | So its added a -100 +100 for a moved file -.- | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | ah well. | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | poor git | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | Indeed | 20:06 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | we'll come back to those patches in this meeting if we've time, but for now I'll move on | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Pike PTG planning | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-pike | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike PTG planning (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:07 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | Please continue to add topics of discussion. | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Two things tho: 1) congrats robcresswell for Pike PTLship :-) and 2) I won't be attending the PTG. | 20:07 |
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| robcresswell | 1) :( 2) :'( | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Horizon is in good hands | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | quitter | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | ;) | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | lol | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | FYI I've added an Ocata-RC1 milestone and a ocata-backport-potential tag to LP | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Well, should add an rc2 one now I suppose | 20:09 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | thanks robcresswell | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | looks like another name dropped off the PTG list also, gonna be an exclusive little club... | 20:11 |
| ediardo | membership is quite expensive | 20:11 |
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| lcastell | for mortals | 20:11 |
| lcastell | companies should have the money though hehe | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | It'll be just be me and dave arguing | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | So... business as usual :) | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | anyhoo, that's the formal project-ey stuff I needed to bring up | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've just been informed that it's Groundhog Day | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that may be important | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | isnt that on the 2nd | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | So, patches: | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Oh, timezones | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | time travel is a thing on Groundhog Day, you know | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | ofc | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | apart from Rob's two patches, which should be our priority, if folks have a moment I'd appreciate some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426984/ since it fixes a significant error in the profiler panel | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | So I had an item on the agenda | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | Though it seems to have been deleted | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I looked! | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh! | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | please, robcresswell, take the floor | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | :D | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | We need a new docs liaison | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Rob's Deleted Agenda Item | 20:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rob's Deleted Agenda Item (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:14 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, *that's* why alex is here :-) | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | It was me a while ago, but I've been pretty crap at keeping that up | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | It would be helpful if someone could take that over and work with the docs team | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | what those the docs liason do? | 20:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | what are the responsibilities of a docs liaison? | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | what does* | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | asettle ^^ | 20:15 |
| asettle | Yo | 20:15 |
| asettle | So | 20:15 |
| asettle | Basically you're an SME for horizon related bugs, questions, problems with the guides etc | 20:16 |
| asettle | It's a relatively not-high demand job | 20:16 |
| asettle | But we need someone there to access and be able to respond | 20:16 |
| asettle | Previously Rob has done the role, and he has answered my PMs and pings regarding bug triaging etc | 20:16 |
| asettle | Basically, you're an SME | 20:16 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I tend to end up doing that thing because I'm in the rcbau IRC so I could continue to do that thing :-) | 20:17 |
| asettle | In fairness r1chardj0n3s we don't need you in the rcbau wiki (that doesn't exist anymore?) we need you in openstack-doc | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so: sign me up, asettle! | 20:17 |
| asettle | Thanks r1chardj0n3s :) | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | sweet | 20:18 |
| asettle | Will do! | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | thankyou | 20:18 |
| asettle | Cheers, okay, I bow out now. I'm halfway through eating my dinner and I'd like to continue ;) | 20:18 |
| asettle | Peace out people :) thanks r1chardj0n3s (now, join openstack-doc and never leave ;) ) | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ asettle | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | \o/ cool thats my deleted agenda item resolved | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Patch Discussion | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patch Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:18 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, let's look at robcresswell's two patches | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | oh no, public shaming | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427882/ Move Security Groups into its own panel | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | we really can't just do the git mv for views? | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425783/ Move Floating IPs from Access & Security to panel | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: I did exactly that | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | you're welcome to try again | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | how many attempts? | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | ...twice :( | 20:20 |
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| david-lyle | I hate to lose the history | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | Thats why patch set 3 and 4 are almost identical | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | yeah same | 20:20 |
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| robcresswell | Like I said, feel free to pull it down and try again. I also hate losing history | 20:20 |
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| david-lyle | sure get me to do your work for you ;) | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so robcresswell one of the things I did with the WIP patch to split up the tabbed Volumes panel was to leave the code in place and just move the tabs to be new panel.py (mostly) | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hardly any file movements | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427568/ for reference | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | Doesn't that make the file structure a little confusing for new people? | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | in the case of volumes it's all under a panel group still so ... a little? :-) | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | I just did it tab by tab so that it was easy to review, I think its kept it all fairly consistent | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I did do the big moves but I found git had trouble tracking the files ;-) | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | The only real changes are urls/file paths, and then the index view. | 20:24 |
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| robcresswell | everything else is just a rename. | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | I'm trying the move, if it fails, your patch is fine | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | anyway I'll get to any comments first thing in the morning | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | thanks david-lyle | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'll await the word from david-lyle | 20:26 |
| ducttape_ | that review worked well / was a nice change from my pov robcresswell | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | yeah it works well | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | brb | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: I looked into the domain scoping issue | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | I see you did too | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: I wrote two trivial patches, one of them is confirmed to at least fix the issue we ran into | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | which was that? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | which patch? | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: but not sure I got them all -- there are some uses of get_effective_domain that I'm not sure about | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427125/3 | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | this one fixes the bug with only one domain displaying on the domains list | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: I'm wondering if it's more involved than that | 20:32 |
| rdopiera | it probably is | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | because if the domain_context is not set and you are domain admin, you would want to use the effective domain id | 20:33 |
| rdopiera | I'm just sliding on the surface | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | for the get | 20:33 |
| rdopiera | but that would be the default domain, no> | 20:33 |
| rdopiera | which is None anyways | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | only if I'm scoped to the default | 20:34 |
| * david-lyle looks at the API | 20:34 | |
| rdopiera | ok, so get the context and if it's None, get the effective domain? | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: I think so | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | otherwise we are attempting to get the domain None | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | which will likely not work very well, unless keystoneclient has some magic in it | 20:36 |
| rdopiera | ok, I will update the patches to do that | 20:36 |
| rdopiera | we probably want an utility function that encapsulates the logic | 20:37 |
| rdopiera | any idea where to best put it? | 20:37 |
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| david-lyle | good question | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | maybe dashboards/identity/utils.py ? | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | ok, I will do that | 20:38 |
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| david-lyle | because there are cases where one of the panels may not be loaded | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | I have one more thing, not related to the domains | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | have at it | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | I forgot to bump the novaclient in the requirements for the simple-tenant-usages pagination | 20:39 |
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| rdopiera | is it too late to still do it? | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | in horizon? | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | yes | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | it's >= 6.0.0 | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | is that not high enough? | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | excluding 7.0.0 | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | we need 7.1.0 | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | and otherwise we just don't use the pagination ? | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | and use the support microversion? | 20:41 |
| rdopiera | I'm afraid that if you have new nova and old novaclient, it will try to use the pagination and crash | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | of course we never test such a combination | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | upper-constraints.txt has python-novaclient===7.1.0 | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | hmm, you could try to get a g-r patch through, but I don't know the odds | 20:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so if you always deploy honoring upper-constraints.txt (which you should do) then you're ok | 20:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think this meeting is done. Please get onto those reviews. Rob, I left you a present in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427882 (you're welcome) | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | ducttape_: do you honor upper-constraints when deploying? | 20:45 |
| * david-lyle wondering if u-c is just a dev tool in reality | 20:45 | |
| ducttape_ | no | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yikes | 20:46 |
| ducttape_ | we do for some things, but not horizon | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | it's just a dev tool | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it's not supposed to be just a dev tool | 20:46 |
| ducttape_ | I freeze all the reqs | 20:46 |
| ducttape_ | so a given deploy has exact versions | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but freezing reqs could also work, yeah | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s updating brings pain | 20:46 |
| robcresswell | it probably won't affect ducttape_ as much because of edge Horizon though | 20:46 |
| ducttape_ | upper-reqs is generally useful though | 20:46 |
| robcresswell | If you deploy Newton without u-c now you will break horribly | 20:47 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:47 |
| ducttape_ | yep, I know. nova client is very exciting | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | that seems counter productive | 20:47 |
| ducttape_ | it seems counter productive to do something like that to the client in the first place imo | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | ducttape_: I meant that requirements ranges are mutually incompatible | 20:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | without upper-constraints limits, Horizon's JS dependencies break newton a whole lot | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | but I will only glance into that rathole today, and walk away having spent too much time there before | 20:49 |
| ducttape_ | yep, the upper reqs are needed / useful | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | because g-r is flawed | 20:49 |
| ducttape_ | I just don't use them, but I freeze everything and ship | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | anyway | 20:49 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks everyone for coming along to this meeting, catch you in #openstack-horizon :-) | 20:50 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 20:50 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-02-01-20.01.html | 20:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-02-01-20.01.txt | 20:50 |
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