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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 14:04:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:04 |
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| esikachev_m | Hi | 14:04 |
| raissa | o/ | 14:04 |
| armstrong | hello | 14:04 |
| tellesnobrega | sorry for starting a little late, had some internet issues | 14:04 |
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| jiasen | hi | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | lets wait another minute to see if anyone else joins | 14:05 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, I guess we have a good quorum | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:06 | |
| shuyingya | o/ | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, from my side, I've been working on integrating storm to vanilla plugin but that is a little on the background now, and I'm mostly working on image generation feature that Elise proposed | 14:07 |
| esikachev_m | No updates for me. But I want to debug sahara-ci on this week | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, sorry, autocompleted to your name :) | 14:07 |
| SotK | heh, np :) | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | esikachev, it is misbehaving quite a lot, any ideas why? | 14:08 |
| armstrong | Since I am new, I was looking for things done and how to contribute. | 14:08 |
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| tellesnobrega | armstrong, a good place to start would be to take a look at the launchpad bugs list and try to pick something up | 14:09 |
| shuyingya | no updates from my side. I successfully passed the visa application today. | 14:09 |
| armstrong | But honestly, I need a little guidance. | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, that is great | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, I can try to find something with you later today | 14:10 |
| armstrong | tellesnobrega: ok that will be great! | 14:10 |
| tellesnobrega | awesome | 14:11 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic PTG attendance | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG attendance (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:12 | |
| shuyingya | I also can help you. If you have any help, just ping me. | 14:12 |
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| shuyingya | **question | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | I know that vitaly is going and had the news that esikachev_m is also coming to atlanta | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | anyone else has news about that? | 14:13 |
| esikachev | tellesnorberga i don't know now | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | esikachev, what happened? | 14:14 |
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| tellesnobrega | also about the ptg, I got an email from people from heat proposing a cross project discussion on heat performance and possible improvements, they asked us to bring some useful topics and possible issues we are having with heat so they can learn about it and try to fix | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | I suggest that we take some time to think about this so we can try to get heat as good as possible for our use | 14:16 |
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| vgridnev | I forgot about meeting; sorry | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, no problem | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | I was just saying about an email I got from heat people | 14:17 |
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| tellesnobrega | basically they want to talk about possible issues we and other projects that use heat are having, so to improve it | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | I can't say off the top of my head issues that we are having, so I suggest that we all together think about it so we can write them back with our feedback | 14:18 |
| vgridnev | Ok | 14:19 |
| tellesnobrega | #action create a list of possible issues with Heat to contribute on the cross-project gathering | 14:20 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Open Discussion | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:20 | |
| tellesnobrega | so everyone knows, pike is open in master and you are encouraged to commit and review patches | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | there is one patch hanging for a while on anti-affinity that would be great to have some eyes on it | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282506/ | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | other than that, we still want more stuff to discuss at the PTG, so please feel free to write on the etherpad | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ptg-pike | 14:22 |
| vgridnev | so, saying about my updates, nothing from me; basically busy with internal tasks | 14:22 |
| vgridnev | and as far as I know esikachev is going to PTG | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | he told me, but just now he said that he isn't sure | 14:23 |
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| vgridnev | who else is going? | 14:25 |
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| vgridnev | shuyingya, do you have news about visa? | 14:25 |
| armstrong | Going where? | 14:25 |
| armstrong | Boston? | 14:25 |
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| tellesnobrega | this is the list on the etherpad vgridnev, tellesnobrega, esikachev jeremyfreudberg | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, atlanta | 14:26 |
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| armstrong | tellesnobrega: Oh no, I am ready for Boston not Atlanta | 14:26 |
| shuyingya | yep, I passed the visa application this morning. vgridnev | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | the summit was split in 2. Now we have PTG (Project Team Gathering) and OpenStack Summit | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | PTG is more technical and Summit is more marketing | 14:27 |
| armstrong | Oh I see | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | this will be the first PTG, so we aren't sure of how it is going to work | 14:28 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, have you got some messages from Heidi Joy Tretheway ? That message should be about the talks for boston; specifically about project updates | 14:28 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I did't get it | 14:29 |
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| vgridnev | I'll forward you original messages then | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | anything else folks? | 14:30 |
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| vgridnev | nothing from me | 14:31 |
| shuyingya | nothing from me. If you have time, please review the patches about APIv2 :) | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, I will do that. Hopefully today | 14:32 |
| shuyingya | thanks ^^ | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | ok guys, I guess this is all for today. | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | Thanks | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | armstrong, I will ping you later today | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 14:33:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
| armstrong | ok I will be waiting | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-09-14.04.html | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-09-14.04.txt | 14:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-09-14.04.log.html | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 15:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi | 15:00 |
| john-davidge | o/ | 15:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | As usual, agenda is here: | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Annoucements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
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| mlavalle | I am sure everybody knows, but I want to mention we have a new PTL.... | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | Congratulations to kevinbenton | 15:03 |
| john-davidge | All hail! | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | During the latest all Neutron meeting armax mentioned that there might be an RC-2 for Ocata | 15:04 |
| haleyb | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-rc2 | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | thanks haleyb ! | 15:05 |
| haleyb | I have a bug on there that refuses to merge, never-ending bug rechecks | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | changes still go to master, then are picked to stable/ocata | 15:07 |
| * haleyb has nothing more to add | 15:07 | |
| mlavalle | Finally a reminder that the PTG in Atlanta will take place in 1 week and a half. Lokking forward to see you there | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: you are not going, right? | 15:08 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: nope, i'm in Mexico next week on the beach :--) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: good reason not to go. Enjoy :-) | 15:09 |
| janzian | haleyb: Enjoy your vacation! | 15:09 |
| haleyb | i'll have a margarita/beer/... for everyone | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | any other annoucements from the team? | 15:09 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: Two for me please | 15:09 |
| haleyb | if i must :) | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:10 | |
| mlavalle | First up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627424 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627424 in neutron "FlushError on IPAllocation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | Over the past weekend I proposed a fix for this one | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | and then I discovered that kevinbenton is completely redoing the delete_subnet method in ML2, which is at the heart of this bug | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428774/ | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | so I abandoned my pathset. My approach now is to make sure that Kevin's patchset addresses this bug | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Today or tomorrow I am going to try to replicate the issue with a unit test | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | and will adapt it to run against Kevin's fix | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | any comments or questions? | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | advise? | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks for working so hard on it, having a good test would be great | 15:16 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Yes, a test would be great. Will keep an eye on Kevin's patch | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | cool | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | moving on | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:17 |
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| mlavalle | A new revision was pushed to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390594/ | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | I started earloer this week to rerview it | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | and I plan to finish over the next couple of days | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | I am taking it easy, though. | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | I encourage others to also take a look | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | ok, next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627480 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627480 in neutron "create_port can succeed without returning fixed_ips on all requested subnets" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to James Anziano (janzian) | 15:20 |
| janzian | Not much to report I'm afraid | 15:20 |
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| janzian | Been working through a nasty sickness this week that has kept me somewhat distracted :( | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | janzian: oh, ok wish you a fast recovery | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | we can go over the bug together in the office when you feel beter | 15:22 |
| janzian | Thanks, today seems to be better so hopefully will be able to make some progress :) | 15:22 |
| janzian | Sounds good | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | Last one today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509004 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509004 in neutron ""test_dualnet_dhcp6_stateless_from_os" failures seen in the gate" [High,Confirmed] | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | This one has no owner | 15:23 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | any other bugs I might have missed? | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | #topic Prefix Delegation | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Prefix Delegation (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:26 | |
| mlavalle | baoli: any updates? | 15:26 |
| baoli | mlavalle: Hi. | 15:26 |
| baoli | mlavalle: I realized that I made a mistake in last revision of the PD HA patch | 15:26 |
| baoli | malvalle: I'm working to push up a new patch to correct it | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | earlier today I abandoned one of your patchsets.... In the comments you had agreed with john-davidge to do so | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | I hope that is ok ???? | 15:28 |
| baoli | mlavalle: no problem. | 15:28 |
| baoli | haleyb, john-davidge: please review the new patch once it's up, and let me know what you think. Thanks! | 15:29 |
| john-davidge | baoli: Will do, thank you! | 15:29 |
| haleyb | baoli: great, when i see it posted i'll take a look | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the update baoli ! | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | Moving on | 15:30 |
| baoli | mlavalle: thanks | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | We will discuss the next step in routed networks in the PTG, so I will skip that | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | even if there is no formal session for that, at the very least john-davidge and I can discuss it face to face in Atlanta | 15:32 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: Yes, looking forward to it | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:33 | |
| mlavalle | any other topics anyone want to bring up? | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | ok team, this one was a quick one, returning 35 minutes to your agendas | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | have a nice rest of your day! | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 15:35:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-09-15.00.html | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-09-15.00.txt | 15:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-09-15.00.log.html | 15:35 |
| haleyb | bye | 15:35 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api_wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 16:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 16:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chair cdent elmiko etoews edleafe | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko etoews | 16:00 |
| cdent | who else has joined us today? | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
| cdent | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| cdent | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:01 | |
| cdent | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-02-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| cdent | I was supposed to make sure that ethercalc is up and running. It is | 16:01 |
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| edleafe | Ethercalc is available | 16:01 |
| edleafe | jinx | 16:01 |
| cdent | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/ | 16:01 |
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| edleafe | I was supposed to talk to cdent about the freeze process | 16:02 |
| cdent | edleafe and I were supposed to talk about freezing, but instead etoews told us to RTFM | 16:02 |
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| edleafe | Yeah, so I read the FM | 16:02 |
| cdent | how'd that work out for you? | 16:02 |
| edleafe | clear enough | 16:03 |
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| cdent | \o/ | 16:03 |
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| cdent | other action was for people to comment on boolean stuff. there was a bit of that | 16:03 |
| elmiko | nice | 16:03 |
| cdent | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and new biz (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:03 | |
| edleafe | wait | 16:04 |
| edleafe | I didn't see any comments | 16:04 |
| edleafe | just some +1s | 16:04 |
| cdent | #undo | 16:04 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic open mic and new biz | 16:04 |
| edleafe | So I just take that as agreement with the guideline as written? | 16:04 |
| cdent | That seems to be the case | 16:04 |
| edleafe | And disagreement with mordred's angle? | 16:04 |
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| mordred | I agree with all right-thinking thoughts | 16:05 |
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| edleafe | mordred: well, I'm a leftist, so... | 16:05 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:05 |
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| mordred | edleafe: four legs good, two legs bad | 16:05 |
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| cdent | I think mordred "normalizing" things is scary | 16:05 |
| mordred | heh. | 16:06 |
| cdent | twitter told me I'm not supposed to normalize | 16:06 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:06 |
| edleafe | Seeing "normal" and "mordred" in the same sentence is scary | 16:06 |
| mordred | cdent: I don't know if you've seen shade/_normalize.py or not ... | 16:06 |
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| cdent | mordred: oh dear god | 16:07 |
| mordred | cdent: :) | 16:07 |
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| * mordred hides from cdent now | 16:07 | |
| cdent | https://3.imimg.com/data3/GA/JK/MY-9964489/eye-washer-250x250.jpg | 16:08 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:08 |
| mordred | cdent, edleafe: actually, honestly, I'd love ot sit down at some point and talk about the normalization we do there and see what, if any of it, is stuff that can/should be pushed back into the apis themselves | 16:09 |
| cdent | I don't have a strong opinion on what should be done other than: probably best to stick with the thing that requires the least change and once we have that, get everyone to do it | 16:09 |
| cdent | mordred++ | 16:09 |
| edleafe | TIL about python munch | 16:09 |
| cdent | edleafe: can we leave this in your capable brain? | 16:09 |
| edleafe | munch looks a lot like my old dotdict module | 16:10 |
| edleafe | cdent: sure, although 'capable' is a bit of a stretch | 16:10 |
| cdent | how about "available"? | 16:10 |
| edleafe | better | 16:11 |
| cdent | ready to move on? | 16:11 |
| edleafe | yup | 16:11 |
| cdent | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and new biz (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:11 | |
| cdent | nada on the agenda, but I wanted to mention that I finally pushed the compatibility guideline draft: #topic open mic and new biz | 16:11 |
| cdent | whoops | 16:11 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421846/ | 16:12 |
| edleafe | copy/paste is hard | 16:12 |
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| cdent | elmiko: despite your +1 I was hoping to resolve the "unresolved questions" secdtion before making it a goer | 16:12 |
| elmiko | cdent: fair, i was just reacting to my initial read | 16:13 |
| edleafe | elmiko: I scrapped several iterations of comments on that one | 16:13 |
| edleafe | Finally decided I better write *something* | 16:13 |
| cdent | Also based on "secdtion" there are probably some typos. But yeah, thanks for having a positive reaction. | 16:13 |
| elmiko | it makes sense to me, i did not realize that the outstanding questions were actually a blocker here | 16:14 |
| edleafe | I'll have another go at that later today | 16:14 |
| cdent | I should probably have made it more clear, but I was worn out... | 16:14 |
| elmiko | no worries, it's a good effort imo | 16:14 |
| cdent | mordred: get your dibs in on that stuff early if you've got the chance | 16:14 |
| cdent | any other open mic? | 16:15 |
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| * edleafe twiddles his thumbs | 16:16 | |
| cdent | scottda: wanted to say out loud: thanks for your continued reliable attendance. please feel free to dive in on the guidelines, finding and fixing issues/typos, or take some bugs. | 16:17 |
| scottda | cdent: sure, I try to have a look at that stuff.. | 16:17 |
| cdent | and at some point we should have more chat about your experiences with the concepts of "versions" as you had some good comments last week | 16:18 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:18 |
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| scottda | cdent: Yeah, I've continued battles with cinder team re: versions | 16:18 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:18 |
| cdent | scottda: i tried to empahsize the value of versions in the compatibilty guideline | 16:19 |
| cdent | on the guidelines: | 16:19 |
| cdent | edleafe: we could freeze the boolean thing, but it's not clear if we want to? | 16:19 |
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| cdent | (the others are not ready) | 16:19 |
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| edleafe | cdent: why wouldn't we? We've given lots of opportunity for feedback | 16:20 |
| edleafe | I don't see any strong dissent | 16:20 |
| cdent | edleafe: oh, only because of the curiosity about mordred's comments above | 16:21 |
| * cdent freezes | 16:21 | |
| * edleafe hands cdent a sweater | 16:22 | |
| elmiko | ha! | 16:22 |
| cdent | smh | 16:22 |
| cdent | oka | 16:23 |
| cdent | y | 16:23 |
| edleafe | You are obviously shivering | 16:23 |
| edleafe | "This guidelines is being frozen..." | 16:23 |
| cdent | clearly | 16:23 |
| cdent | sigh | 16:23 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:23 |
| * edleafe is glad that he never has typos | 16:23 | |
| cdent | It's been much worse the past month or so | 16:23 |
| cdent | it could very well be cold, my fingers not operating properly | 16:23 |
| cdent | Any other guideline commentary? | 16:24 |
| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:24 | |
| cdent | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg | 16:25 |
| cdent | Nothing new or changed since last week | 16:25 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:26 | |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:26 |
| cdent | any volunteers to be the author this week? | 16:26 |
| * edleafe pretends not to have heard that | 16:26 | |
| elmiko | i suppose i can take it | 16:26 |
| cdent | *crickets* | 16:26 |
| cdent | Nobody has to take it if they don't want, it doesn't bother me to do it, it just seems...I'm not sure what | 16:27 |
| elmiko | i just thought i'd offer, if you want a break | 16:27 |
| cdent | elmiko: go for it, a break would be lovely | 16:28 |
| elmiko | k | 16:28 |
| cdent | thanks | 16:28 |
| cdent | Since we have loads of time left we can either call it early, or gossip about some open topic, or schmooze about anything that might happen at the PTG. Preferences? | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i'm curious what folks think about the PTG? | 16:29 |
| edleafe | Oh, did you see what etoews was wearing yesterday? Scandalous!! | 16:29 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:29 |
| edleafe | elmiko: think about? In what context? | 16:29 |
| elmiko | good idea, bad idea, excited to attend, etc? | 16:30 |
| scottda | Sorry, elmiko I've vowed to quit griping about the PTG. At least until the week of... | 16:30 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:30 |
| edleafe | I love the concept, but not so sure about the execution | 16:30 |
| elmiko | i haven't kept up-to-date, what's the issue with execution? | 16:30 |
| cdent | I'd mirror what edleafe has said, but am taking a wait and see. | 16:30 |
| edleafe | It wasn't presented properly | 16:31 |
| scottda | Biggest issue I have is around the idea of some of us getting together to talk about consistent versioned endpoints, for example.... | 16:31 |
| edleafe | Many companies are still thinking it's a midcycle-like event, and thus attendance is optional | 16:31 |
| scottda | Since we cannot schedule a time and place for it. | 16:31 |
| scottda | I'm concerned with how to get interested people into the room at the same time. | 16:31 |
| elmiko | scottda: good point | 16:31 |
| elmiko | edleafe: ugh... | 16:31 |
| edleafe | I have the feeling that the Pike cycle will have a lot of devs feeling left out of the loop | 16:32 |
| scottda | And if I cannot broadcast that time/place to the Cinder team, they may not attend, and therefore we might lack buy-in on any changes cinder needs to do. | 16:32 |
| cdent | scottda: that's what the ethercalcis for | 16:32 |
| cdent | and why we wanted to be sure it was a thing that existed beforehand | 16:32 |
| cdent | so probably the thing do is get with ttx to see if the space management spreadsheet exists yet | 16:33 |
| edleafe | Is there an ethercalc for the ptg yet? | 16:33 |
| scottda | cdent: Sorry, can you point me to that? | 16:33 |
| edleafe | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/ | 16:33 |
| cdent | ttx: are there active ethercal pages for the ptg yet? | 16:33 |
| scottda | thx | 16:33 |
| cdent | (I think ttx is at snowcamp today, so that's probably for naught) | 16:33 |
| cdent | But yeah, you're right scottda: for cross project stuff it is a mystery for how to get people coordinated to participate | 16:35 |
| elmiko | yeah, cross-project seems like a big issue with the new format | 16:36 |
| cdent | I think there's hope that it will "just happen" but with the numbers of people involved and the quantity of things that need to happen, unclear if it will work | 16:36 |
| elmiko | is the PTG in a single location? | 16:36 |
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| edleafe | scottda: how about a post to the ML proposing the version meeting | 16:36 |
| cdent | elmiko: it's in a single hotel | 16:36 |
| edleafe | elmiko: yes - Atlanta, GA | 16:36 |
| scottda | edleafe: I could. I guess I'd rather wait a bit and see if there's something like a PTG ethercalc that could be filled in by all the cross-project teams/meetings... | 16:36 |
| clarkb | cdent: re ethercalc its good to go now, backed up redis db and everything. But not sure of ttx's organizational plans around it | 16:37 |
| edleafe | scottda: sure, that makes sense | 16:37 |
| cdent | thanks clarkb | 16:37 |
| scottda | I feel that there needs to be some kind of central coordination. | 16:37 |
| scottda | But I'm kinda funny that way. | 16:37 |
| edleafe | scottda: well, there's nothing that says that you can't be that coordination | 16:37 |
| edleafe | easier to ask forgiveness than permission | 16:37 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:38 |
| scottda | edleafe: Yes there is. It's my inner voice that says "Stop overextending yourself" | 16:38 |
| * edleafe looks for medication to quiet those voices | 16:38 | |
| scottda | ha. My doctor has me on one called "beer" | 16:39 |
| scottda | But I don't get my dosage until 6:00 PM | 16:39 |
| cdent | scottda: could you get me a referal to your doc | 16:39 |
| scottda | ha | 16:39 |
| edleafe | scottda: http://images.ubercomments.com/1/414315293628d01382.jpg | 16:40 |
| elmiko | cdent, edleafe, how's that look https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:40 |
| * cdent reads | 16:40 | |
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| edleafe | there was a newly frozen guideline | 16:41 |
| edleafe | ah, that's fixed | 16:41 |
| elmiko | oops, thanks! | 16:41 |
| cdent | im done making changes, deferes to edleafe | 16:41 |
| cdent | jesus. this is why I didn't want to do the newsletter today. can't spell | 16:41 |
| edleafe | My only thing is that it looks kinda odd to start link numbering at [4] and [5] | 16:42 |
| edleafe | Other than that... | 16:42 |
| elmiko | yeah, agreed | 16:42 |
| cdent | edleafe: that's part of our eccentric charm | 16:42 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:42 |
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| cdent | we don't renumber the footnotes below, we just use them in different orderes | 16:43 |
| edleafe | then let's use random numbers | 16:43 |
| edleafe | much more charming | 16:43 |
| cdent | we should use uuids | 16:43 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:43 |
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| cdent | or sha2 hashes of the footnotes | 16:43 |
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| cdent | content addressable footnotes | 16:43 |
| edleafe | If we did that, I don't think anyone would trust our guidance on API desing | 16:44 |
| edleafe | design, even | 16:44 |
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| cdent | I'm contagious! | 16:44 |
| edleafe | oh, c'mon - I'm not *that* bad! | 16:45 |
| cdent | It starts out light | 16:45 |
| cdent | but over time gets worse | 16:45 |
| cdent | I'm sorry | 16:45 |
| cdent | anyway | 16:45 |
| cdent | I think we reached the end of usefulness on this fine little meeting, yes | 16:45 |
| elmiko | fair | 16:46 |
| cdent | i say we call it? second? | 16:46 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:46 |
| edleafe | o/ | 16:46 |
| cdent | cool, thanks everyone for coming, it's been fun | 16:46 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 16:46:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-09-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-09-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-09-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: igordcard: hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 9 18:02:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:02 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Feb_9th_2017 | 18:03 |
| igordcard | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah right on cue | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic QoS patch in master | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426436 | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so have the issues been resolved regarding the NFP gate job? | 18:04 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:04 |
| songole | hello | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: we know that the NFP job has issues beyond the changes in your patch, since it times out | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi | 18:05 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: ashutosh was working on the nfp enablement | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah okay, in the other patch | 18:05 |
| igordcard | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429523/ | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so my understanding is that the other patch is for experimentation? | 18:05 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ashutosh has found a few issues | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay | 18:06 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: yeah I think so.. | 18:06 |
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| igordcard | qos needs to be enabled in local-nfp.conf too though, it seems | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: igordcard: it would have been better if the ashutosh’s patch was made dependent on igordcard’s patch | 18:08 |
| igordcard | so that is at least one more change to make on my patch | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as it stands now, its a cherry-pick and its kind of difficult to tell what are the changes made in addition to igordcard’s changes | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: unless you are keeping a track :-) | 18:09 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: okay | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i am not suggesting that we redo, but a note for the future | 18:09 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I haven't been following closely, but my impression is that ashutosh's patch can completely replace mine as soon as it passses dsvm-nfp | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: perhaps ashutosh is keeping track of the changes he is making and is going to relay that to igordcard via comments on igordcard’s patch (which i believe is what is currently happening) | 18:10 |
| igordcard | the equivalent of my changes were done on the cherry-pick too | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: hmmm | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: i will leave it to you and ashutosh to decide, but let the team know which patch they should review | 18:11 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: as soon as I see dsvm-nfp green I will discuss with ashutosh the next steps | 18:11 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: will do | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: sounds good, so right now we are waiting for ashutosh to identify the changes | 18:12 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I'll leave a comment on his patch too now | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had reviewed this patch earlier and had made changes on top of it, so its little painful to review the cherry-pick now because we lose context of the original patch | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps doing a diff between the patchsets will help (assuming no rebase has been done :-)) | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anwyay, igordcard anything else we need to discuss on this? | 18:13 |
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| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I don't mind pulling the cherry-pick and applying the changes to my latest patchset, and submitting as a new patchset so we can view the diff | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: that works | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: i right away saw one issue with how the UT setup was being changed in ashutosh’s patch | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will add a note | 18:14 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: but only when I see dsvm-nfp green or ashutosh patch is otherwise ready | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: the problem is that the nfp job is failing on other patches as well on account of time out | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: so on that, did you check with the team on removing the test we discussed? | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | test -> scenario | 18:15 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: yes. But, ash says having both would catch more issues | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: sure but right now its not catching any because it does not complete :-) | 18:16 |
| songole | such as clean up issues with the previous firewall.. | 18:16 |
| songole | he thinks he knows the issues.. | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i would also prefer to not remove any scenarios | 18:17 |
| songole | or understands what is happening | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay, any chance he has a ETA? | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: because as we discussed, currently it makes the process very slow of all other patches | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: we need to have an interim solution if its going to take longer to get to a solution | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | solution -> final solution | 18:18 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: I will get back on ETA | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks much | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: songole: thanks for the update here | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | moving on | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Application Policy Group | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we had discussed this spec before #link https://review.openstack.org/339272 | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but its still pending votes/approval | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have also posted a WIP implementation patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/430616 | 18:20 |
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| songole | SumitNaiksatam: will review the spec | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there are some changes in the impl which i have not pushed to gerrit | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks | 18:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the spec is pretty short and the idea is pretty basic | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we mostly expect the clients to use this, however the apic driver will also have a specific back-end mapping for this construct | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman igordcard: in case you get a chance please take a look again | 18:22 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on the spec and impl patch | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | to be clear, this is a new resource being added to the GBP model, its not a driver-specific extension | 18:23 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I will look again, but did we just have a discussion about this? | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hence everyone should be aware | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we had discussions in the past, but the spec is still un-approved | 18:24 |
| igordcard | [previous topic] I've reverted my own qos patch to the same state as before ash's fork, to prevent confusion | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the implemention patch will be out of WIP soon | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: nice, thanks | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone have anything else to bring up today? | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: this following patch was posted: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431350/ | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding adding port-security | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but it fails the nfp gate for the time out reason | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | should we wait for the gate job to be fixed to merge this? | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (merge after review, that is) | 18:26 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: i think this is the fix ash was proposing. looks like there is still some work that needs to be done | 18:27 |
| songole | this is regarding nfp gate job failure | 18:27 |
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| * tbachman saw a patch fly by the other day on GBP from someone named Ann? | 18:27 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yes we need to review that | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: she is a new member of the GBP community, from VMW | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay, but its completely removing the fw_lb.sh exercise script | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman was referring to this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431244/ | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: so to give you context, Anna was integration the resource mapping driver on top of the VMW monolithic neutron plugin | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: and she ran into this issue | 18:30 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: cool - thx (and great to hear that we have a new member to the community :-) ) | 18:30 |
| * tbachman wonders if Ann knows about our IRC meetings | 18:30 | |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: how is the newton work going? | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: good point, i think she does | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am trying to wrap up the mitaka stuff before resuming the newton sync | 18:31 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am stuck in the newton sync with one wierd issue | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the aim tables are not getting created in the UTs | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i spent quite a bit of time on that until i had to context switch sometime in the middle of last week, i havent been able to get back to that after it | 18:32 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: let me know if you’d like me to take a look when you get back to this | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but yeah, the newton sync is the big priority right now | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, once i hit a complete wall i will ping you (with a rundown of the symptoms) | 18:33 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you are attending the PTG in atlanta, right? | 18:34 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: right | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is anyone else going? | 18:34 |
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| songole | SumitNaiksatam: what is ptg? | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Project Teams Gathering (PTG) | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had to look it up :-) | 18:36 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: thanks :) | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is the new design summit (separate from the conference, which will be in Boston later) | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | totally stole our acronym there! | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: igordcard: are you going? | 18:37 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: unfortunately not | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay, would have been a short flight | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, if nothing else lets wrap up for today | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 9 18:38:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-09-18.02.html | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-09-18.02.txt | 18:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-09-18.02.log.html | 18:38 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 18:38 |
| songole | bye | 18:38 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:38 |
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