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| gothicmindfood | fyi swg-ers - we are cancelling today's meeting due to folks being busy/sick - we will discuss any last minute organizational details for Monday's SWG session in #openstack-swg | 14:01 |
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| bastafidli_ | ok, thank you | 14:02 |
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| alexismonville | ok | 14:06 |
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| EmilienM | ack | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 15:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| john-davidge | o/ | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | hi john-davidge, everything ok? | 15:00 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: Yes thank you. You? | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | great, looking forward to see you next week | 15:01 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: You too! | 15:01 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: Barcelona feels like not so long ago | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | yeah, ages ago. incredible! | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | oh, I misread your comment | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | to me, it feels long ago | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | anyway... | 15:02 |
| john-davidge | :) | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | haleyb said he was going to be a little late, so let's get going | 15:03 |
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| john-davidge | ok sure | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | Obviously, remind folks that the PTG will be next week in Atlanta | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | I arrive Tuesday night and will fly back home Saturday noonish | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | Here's the plan for the Neutron team: | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike-final | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | The other annoucement is that we won't have this meeting next week, due to the PTG | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | I will send a message to the ML later today | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | First one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627424 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627424 in neutron "FlushError on IPAllocation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | So I have continued paying for all my past sins with this bug :-) | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | and hopefully the future ones as well | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I found another group of ocurrences of this bug | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | This one happens as a consequence of the execution of one of the test cases in this test class (I haven't isolated yet which one): | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | #link https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/network/test_networks.py#L538 | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | 1) A network is created | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | 2) The plugin receives request from the dhcp agent to create the dhcp port: http://paste.openstack.org/show/598918/ | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | 3) The test script send request to delete the network: http://paste.openstack.org/show/599252/ | 15:14 |
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| mlavalle | 4) The port creation gets to the point of assigning IP address | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | 5) The network delete deletes the port | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | 6) We get the Traceback in the port creation | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | I am going to dig deeper today and tomorrow and document it thoroughly. With this I will have a conversation face to face with Kevin to isolate the rrot cause | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | next week | 15:16 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Looking forward to that discussion. This is quite the bug... | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | We are race probelms between these transactions | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | and all the cases involve the common attributes in the port | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is http://paste.openstack.org/show/599252/ | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | This one has a fix proposed here: | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390594/ | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | If you have a chance, please take a look | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | Ooops, I meant this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | any comments about it? | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627480 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627480 in neutron "create_port can succeed without returning fixed_ips on all requested subnets" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to James Anziano (janzian) | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | any comments about this one, janzian? | 15:23 |
| janzian | This one has proven difficult to reproduce | 15:23 |
| janzian | mlavalle and I have plans to go over it together later today, so I hope to have something more substantial done while everyone else is at the PTG (thanks mlavalle :) ) | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | cool, thanks | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | Last one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509004 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509004 in neutron ""test_dualnet_dhcp6_stateless_from_os" failures seen in the gate" [High,Confirmed] | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | This one has no owner, any comments from anyone? | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should highlight today? | 15:26 |
| john-davidge | i have one | 15:27 |
| john-davidge | This is IPv6 related, so apologies if it doesnt fit this meeting | 15:27 |
| john-davidge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1663077 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1663077 in neutron "[ipv6] when slaas is setup as ipv6_address_mode ipv6-icmp packets are rejected by iptables" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:27 |
| john-davidge | Would be interested to have some others weigh in on the review | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | it does fit this meeting :-) | 15:28 |
| john-davidge | i totally get where kevin is coming from, and i agree with some of what he says, but i im not sure the fix is using the correct approach | 15:28 |
| john-davidge | most of the discussion is on patchset 4 | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | This one, right? | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431379/ | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | There's another patchset in the bug | 15:30 |
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| john-davidge | Ah yeah, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432506/ is a follow on patch | 15:31 |
| john-davidge | which im also not sure about | 15:31 |
| john-davidge | my main concerns are: | 15:31 |
| * mlavalle listening | 15:31 | |
| john-davidge | 1. Does the first patch actually fix the bug? As RAs from non link-local addresses should be dropped by the client anyway | 15:31 |
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| john-davidge | 2. Are there legitimate cases where there may be two or more RA providers for a network? E.g, some subnets receiving RAs from a neutron router and others from an external router? | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | mhhhh.... ok, I'll try to add my 2 cents | 15:33 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Thanks | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | maybe haleyb can also weigh in ^^^^ | 15:34 |
| * haleyb just showed up, will try and comment in the review | 15:34 | |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:34 |
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| mlavalle | any other bugs? | 15:35 |
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| john-davidge | haleyb: Thanks, I've backed off the last couple days to try and make sure im not missing something | 15:35 |
| * haleyb has backed-off because he is sick :( | 15:36 | |
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| mlavalle | really, you are going to Mexico next week! | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | well, maybe there is nothing beach, beer and Margaritas cannot cure! | 15:36 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: You have to get better in time for margharitas! | 15:36 |
| haleyb | i know, the flight will be tough | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | #topic Prefix Delegation | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Prefix Delegation (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | baoli: anything to share with the team? | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | I guess the answer not today | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:38 | |
| mlavalle | The only thing I want to mention here is that we can discuss with john-davidge the floating ip stuff next week in Atlanta | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | how about right after the docs meeting on Tuesday? | 15:39 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Sure, sounds good! | 15:40 |
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| john-davidge | mlavalle: There's also an item on the neutron agenda for it | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: in the final agenda? | 15:40 |
| john-davidge | Yes | 15:41 |
| john-davidge | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike-final | 15:41 |
| john-davidge | L116 | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I just saw it. let's discuss then. I'll add my name to it | 15:41 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Great | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:42 | |
| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | ok guys, returning 16 minutes to your agendas | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending | 15:43 |
| john-davidge | Thanks, See you in Atlanta! | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: for the flight, chewing gum during the entire ascent and descent helps a lot | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | and I hope you enjoy the beach and don't think about us :-) | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 15:44:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-16-15.00.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-16-15.00.txt | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-02-16-15.00.log.html | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks! | 15:45 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 16:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:00 |
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| cdent | hello, who besides elmiko has shown up for today's exciting episode of api-wg? | 16:00 |
| cdent | and mr leafe | 16:00 |
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| cdent | anyone? | 16:00 |
| cdent | #link today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| cdent | #chair cdent elmiko etoews edleafe | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko etoews | 16:01 |
| cdent | no action items from last meeting so we'll skip straight into new biz and open mic | 16:01 |
| edleafe | the excitement is probably too much for people | 16:01 |
| cdent | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and new biz (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:01 | |
| elmiko | lol | 16:01 |
| edleafe | we should scale back | 16:01 |
| cdent | it is pretty intense | 16:01 |
| cdent | ptg planning | 16:02 |
| cdent | #link ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-architecture-workgroup | 16:02 |
| cdent | we're sharing etherpad and space with arch-wg | 16:02 |
| cdent | we have a room on monday now | 16:02 |
| cdent | and there are many topics | 16:02 |
| cdent | but it is also likely that thing we care about will overlap with other stuff on monday | 16:02 |
| edleafe | I added a $BEVERAGE topic at the bottom | 16:02 |
| elmiko | haha, ice | 16:03 |
| cdent | ah, good one | 16:03 |
| elmiko | nice even... | 16:03 |
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| cdent | I'm concerned about how we're going to manage rooms, topics, getting people's attention | 16:03 |
| elmiko | that last question is like the eternal struggle | 16:03 |
| cdent | but I guess we'll just wing it | 16:03 |
| edleafe | Well , if IBM keeps on their current path, it might be only elmiko left | 16:03 |
| elmiko | ALL THE POWA!!!! | 16:04 |
| edleafe | cdent: the lack of room planning is making a lot of people nervous | 16:04 |
| edleafe | not just our group | 16:04 |
| cdent | edleafe: yeah, I guess lots of pinging in #openstack-ptg will be required, assuming the wifi works | 16:05 |
| elmiko | what's the issue with the room planning? | 16:05 |
| cdent | of course EmilienM and I have decided we're spending the entire week in a room with gin and tonic that we'll be distributing to people willing to hang out and talk with us | 16:05 |
| stevelle | sorry, also here fwiw | 16:05 |
| cdent | stevelle, hello, thanks for coming | 16:05 |
| elmiko | lol, nice cdent | 16:05 |
| elmiko | makes me want to attend | 16:06 |
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| cdent | elmiko: basically there are many topics and lots of room | 16:06 |
| stevelle | double-booked meetings | 16:06 |
| elmiko | ah, gotcha | 16:06 |
| cdent | and unclear on where to go for anything | 16:06 |
| edleafe | tonic?? bleh. Give me gin and soda | 16:06 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:06 |
| cdent | edleafe: that's perfectly acceptable | 16:06 |
| edleafe | This is a summit-like week, but we don't have the sort of room slots assigned | 16:07 |
| EmilienM | lol | 16:07 |
| cdent | I think we might have some bourbon too | 16:07 |
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| EmilienM | does it make sense to ask api-wg to help out in organizing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-pike-wsgi ? | 16:07 |
| cdent | Anyway... the action here is for people to add topics on the etherpad (linked above) for next week. I will strive to be sure that there are reasonable summary notes for monday and tuesday (as I promised to do so in return for my travel funding) | 16:08 |
| cdent | EmilienM: if you want, but in general the group tries to be deployment agnostic and think about the http not the server itself | 16:08 |
| cdent | however, since I've already made a lot of noise in support of that one, I'll want to participate | 16:09 |
| cdent | scottda you here today? | 16:09 |
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| EmilienM | cdent: it makes sense. | 16:10 |
| cdent | I think we're going to have to wing it on the capabilities and service endpoints discussions, and that will just have to be fine. Unconferencing. | 16:10 |
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| cdent | Anybody have anything else they would like to say about the ptg? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | i hope it's productive =) | 16:11 |
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| elmiko | but not too productive XD | 16:11 |
| stevelle | nothing | 16:11 |
| stevelle | to add | 16:11 |
| cdent | heh | 16:11 |
| cdent | okay moving on | 16:12 |
| cdent | #topic tc's decision about glance | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tc's decision about glance (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:12 | |
| cdent | #link irc logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2017/tc.2017-02-14-20.01.log.html#l-93 | 16:12 |
| cdent | edleafe your floor | 16:12 |
| edleafe | Oh, now you want me to sweep it? | 16:12 |
| cdent | yes, but if you do, you'll end up meeting someone at the ball | 16:12 |
| edleafe | Anyway, since Glance and QA were deadlocked even after out input, the matter was brought to the TC | 16:13 |
| edleafe | The TC noted that both sides had done what was expected: | 16:13 |
| edleafe | QA being conservative on change | 16:13 |
| edleafe | Glance coming to us for API opinion, and then escalating to TC | 16:14 |
| edleafe | Some concern about having to escalate was raised, but most people were "eh, what can you do? Disagreements happen" | 16:14 |
| edleafe | The best part was that several TC members expressed the opinion that they would undercut the legitimacy of the API-WG if they ignored our recommendation | 16:15 |
| edleafe | They really want us to be a voice for positive change in the OpenStack community | 16:15 |
| edleafe | that's about all I have to add | 16:15 |
| * cdent kicks edleafe out of api-wg | 16:15 | |
| elmiko | that's encouraging, about the support from tc | 16:16 |
| elmiko | lol, ouch | 16:16 |
| cdent | if we need positive voice... | 16:16 |
| * cdent resigns from api-wg | 16:16 | |
| edleafe | aw, who wants to be in your stupid group anyway! | 16:16 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:16 |
| * cdent looks at elmiko | 16:16 | |
| elmiko | well... | 16:16 |
| * cdent recovers | 16:16 | |
| cdent | Yeah, it does seem like a good outcome. | 16:17 |
| cdent | There's concern about setting precedents, but I think that's just life. | 16:17 |
| edleafe | I think that the precedent that was set was that the API-WG knows what it is doing :) | 16:17 |
| cdent | mordred: here | 16:17 |
| * mordred waves | 16:18 | |
| * edleafe waves back | 16:18 | |
| stevelle | I was against the change in my role inside Glance. I missed the chance to repeat that here. I was concerned about precedent too, but am hopeful based on the discussion re: re-validate api change guidelines | 16:18 |
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| stevelle | I feel like the new guidelines state clearly on the tin that this change voids the warranty | 16:18 |
| cdent | stevelle: it's all a bit difficult when a project is not actively versioning | 16:19 |
| cdent | the guidelines, as written old and new, kind of assume that as a foundation | 16:19 |
| edleafe | stevelle: yeah, it's hard to take an absolute stand when the basic versioning support isn't there | 16:19 |
| stevelle | well, that project tag will be unobtainable for glance w/o versioning | 16:19 |
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| stevelle | that says what needs to be said | 16:20 |
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| * cdent nods | 16:21 | |
| edleafe | stevelle: the other thing is that we don't want Glance to feel like they can keep coming to us to "bail them out" | 16:21 |
| stevelle | +100 | 16:22 |
| edleafe | stevelle: we'd really like to see a strong commitment to versioning by Glance | 16:22 |
| stevelle | that may be a bridge too far, for now. | 16:22 |
| edleafe | understood | 16:22 |
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| stevelle | that is a serious anchor to throw at a small team of contributors | 16:22 |
| stevelle | and I project problems will continue for them in keeping contributors | 16:23 |
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| edleafe | unfortunately, that's true of just about every project | 16:23 |
| stevelle | images doesn't attract a broad bench | 16:23 |
| edleafe | . | 16:23 |
| edleafe | doh! | 16:24 |
| elmiko | a real bummer considering how crucial glance is | 16:24 |
| mordred | ++ | 16:24 |
| edleafe | Well, if you called them "container images" people would get all excited! | 16:24 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:24 |
| elmiko | "glance, now with more containers and versioning!" | 16:24 |
| stevelle | this brings up a topic we can discuss more at ptg, but in terms of leveling the playing field the api stability project tag will be out of reach for a lot of teams given the high standard we are setting, but I don't know that can be helped. | 16:25 |
| * cdent weeps | 16:25 | |
| stevelle | it should be a high standard. | 16:25 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:25 |
| mordred | I think it's honestly better to have a tag that means something | 16:25 |
| cdent | (at containers, not the bar) | 16:25 |
| mordred | cdent: ++ | 16:25 |
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| stevelle | Probably good to recognize it is such though | 16:25 |
| edleafe | mordred: yes! | 16:25 |
| cdent | stevelle: I think it is okay for the asserts tags to not be asserted | 16:26 |
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| edleafe | I added the interop topic to the etherpad because I think that this will have more of an effect on API stability guidelines than anything | 16:27 |
| stevelle | I think some of the existing tags have quite high standards already, so this isn't a new precedent. | 16:27 |
| elmiko | yeah, i'm all for tags that actually mean something | 16:27 |
| edleafe | Tags were supposed to be a way of letting consumers what to expect | 16:27 |
| mordred | yah - also I think everyone _wants_ to have and meet high standards - even if it'll be hard to get there for a bit | 16:27 |
| cdent | raising standards ++ | 16:28 |
| edleafe | In this case, "can I be assured that my API calls won't change?" | 16:28 |
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| edleafe | "or do I have to be more defensive in my programming?" | 16:28 |
| stevelle | thanks for confirming my thinking on that. I'm satisfied with the consensus so far. | 16:28 |
| cdent | edleafe: or how about "or do I need to be casual about my api code and make it easy to change" | 16:29 |
| cdent | (just for completeness) | 16:29 |
| edleafe | cdent: that's more of a dev-centric viewpoint, no? | 16:29 |
| edleafe | I'm thinking about people _using_ OpenStack | 16:29 |
| edleafe | consuming the APIs, not writing them | 16:30 |
| cdent | yes, that's what I mean s/api code/api client code/ | 16:30 |
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| cdent | I'm not asserting that as a correct viewpoint, just that it _is_ a viewpoint | 16:30 |
| * mordred loves the people who consider the people consuming the APIs - hands everyone a pie | 16:30 | |
| edleafe | cdent: OIC. It's simply a matter of setting the proper expectation for consumers | 16:31 |
| cdent | mordred: I'm in cornwall, can I have a pasty instead please? | 16:31 |
| elmiko | mmm pie | 16:31 |
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| mordred | ++ - for instance - if we say "just check success is in the 200 range, we're loose with specific codes" - then people can know how to behave | 16:31 |
| edleafe | It's the TC's way of saying "this project is ready for prime time" with regard to a particular thing | 16:31 |
| elmiko | cdent: no fish pie in cornwall XD | 16:31 |
| elmiko | ? | 16:31 |
| cdent | stargazy pie | 16:31 |
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| cdent | any further points to make on this topic? | 16:32 |
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| cdent | k, any further open mic or new biz topics? | 16:33 |
| stevelle | not me, I'm ready for that pie | 16:34 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:34 |
| * edleafe has already finished his pie | 16:34 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:34 | |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:34 |
| cdent | boolean names is loved, post freeze, so I think we can merge, yes? | 16:34 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411529/ | 16:34 |
| elmiko | cdent: seems so | 16:35 |
| edleafe | and it disagrees with mordred, so that's even better :) | 16:35 |
| elmiko | ouch | 16:35 |
| cdent | the other things are under construction, or idle (pagination) | 16:35 |
| cdent | What to do about pagination? | 16:35 |
| elmiko | that one has been stagnant for a while? | 16:36 |
| edleafe | Is there any further disagreement? | 16:36 |
| mordred | edleafe: boo. I lost | 16:36 |
| * edleafe hasn't read that one in a while | 16:36 | |
| edleafe | My only objection was the tone of the one paragraph, which I re-wrote | 16:37 |
| elmiko | hmm, i guess we just need more reviews on it | 16:37 |
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| cdent | it has un-responded comments, I guess | 16:37 |
| edleafe | So let's respond, and see what happens from there | 16:38 |
| cdent | edleafe: are you in a position to consider yourself the author now or should we try to drag sigmavirus back into the flow | 16:39 |
| * sigmavirus hides | 16:39 | |
| elmiko | edleafe: +1 | 16:39 |
| edleafe | dunno, we may have scared sigmavirus away. He's awfully sensitive like that :) | 16:40 |
| sigmavirus | :D | 16:40 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:41 |
| edleafe | cdent: I only wrote one paragraph of that, so co-author at best | 16:41 |
| edleafe | cdent: I can be the steward, though | 16:41 |
| cdent | shall we move on to bugs or do we need to counsel edleafe and sigmavirus to take some action | 16:41 |
| cdent | edleafe: that's what I meant: somebody needs to ride it in | 16:42 |
| edleafe | more pie would help | 16:42 |
| cdent | I will get you pie next week. I think it is spelt gee eye enn | 16:42 |
| * mordred witholds pie from edleafe who witheld his support of mordred's view on boolean field naming | 16:42 | |
| cdent | HARSH | 16:42 |
| edleafe | pie.enabled = False | 16:42 |
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| elmiko | haha | 16:42 |
| * edleafe thinks that's nicer than pie.is_enabled = False | 16:43 | |
| mordred | edleaf.has_pie = False | 16:43 |
| mordred | edleafe.has_pie = False | 16:43 |
| mordred | darned pep8 | 16:43 |
| cdent | mordred: clearly edleafe is the resource | 16:43 |
| mordred | pie.has_edleafe = False | 16:43 |
| mordred | which is very different than pie.is_edleafe = True | 16:43 |
| edleafe | edleafe.has_hunger = True | 16:43 |
| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:44 | |
| elmiko | yeah, this is not helping in a pre-lunch meeting | 16:44 |
| cdent | there are no new bugs | 16:44 |
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| edleafe | elmiko: heh | 16:44 |
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| cdent | but there are many that still remain but we've all been too of late to do much with | 16:44 |
| cdent | this touches on the question edleafe added to the ptg etherpad: new meat! | 16:44 |
| cdent | comments questions on that topic? | 16:45 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:45 | |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:45 |
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| edleafe | wow, that quieted everyone! | 16:47 |
| * stevelle doesn't talk while he's eating pie | 16:48 | |
| elmiko | haha | 16:48 |
| elmiko | is it worth mentioning the whole glance/tc thing in there? | 16:51 |
| elmiko | you guys are having way too much fun with etherpad XD | 16:51 |
| cdent | the newly published is what went from frozen to merged | 16:51 |
| edleafe | elmiko: join us! | 16:51 |
| elmiko | i'm watching =) | 16:51 |
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| elmiko | ship it! | 16:55 |
| edleafe | Looks good to me | 16:55 |
| edleafe | (as if anyone reads these things!) | 16:56 |
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| * edleafe keeps reading about mascots and other critical issues | 16:56 | |
| * cdent reconsiders edleafe as a force for positive change | 16:57 | |
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| * edleafe is surprised he fooled cdent for so long | 16:57 | |
| cdent | it's sort of enforced ignorance | 16:58 |
| cdent | anyway, sent, and good timiing | 16:58 |
| cdent | anyone want to fill hat last minute and a half? | 16:58 |
| cdent | oh noes | 16:59 |
| cdent | look what I did | 16:59 |
| cdent | I left the "Subject:" in the subject | 16:59 |
| cdent | :( | 16:59 |
| * cdent tenders resignation | 16:59 | |
| cdent | thanks everyone for coming | 16:59 |
| edleafe | I did that too | 16:59 |
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| cdent | those of you will be there next week, see you there | 16:59 |
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| cdent | those of you who will not, you will be missed | 16:59 |
| cdent | and thanks for coming today | 17:00 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| elmiko | thanks ! | 17:00 |
| elmiko | good luck next week =) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 17:00:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-16-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-16-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-02-16-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi | 17:59 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 17:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: hi | 17:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: hi | 17:59 |
| annak | hi :) | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 18:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Feb_16th.2C_9th_2017 | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: firstly, a warm welcome to you ;-) | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: and thanks for posting the patch | 18:01 |
| tbachman | hi annak! | 18:01 |
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| * tbachman welcomes annak | 18:01 | |
| annak | thank you! glad to join | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | folks, annak is the newest member to the team | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | was waiting to see if songole is joining | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | wanted to discuss the NFP gate job | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic NFP gate job failures | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NFP gate job failures (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:03 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | so this patch is being worked for the past week | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431350 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks to ash | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | seems like it passed the check gate yesterday | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but it failed the merge gate, and on recheck all jobs are failing | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i just noticed this, so there might be something else going on in the gate, but havent had a chance to study the logs | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the reason i wanted to discuss this first is because the QoS patch disucssion depends on this | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and I wanted the team to understand what changes are being done to fix the NFP failing gate job | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the benefit, to reiterate, our merge gate only checks for doc, py27 and pep8 jobs | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however on the reviews we do gate on the other three devstack jobs | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the NFP and rally jobs had been failing for a while and we had to discount them | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have since fixed the rally job, and looks like the NFP job is close to getting fixed | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since songole and ash are not here, let me move on to the next topic | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic QoS via NSPs | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QoS via NSPs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426436 | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks for joining at your late hour | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so as i understand the only blocker here is the NFP gate job, right? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | would any additional changes be needed for your patch, apart from rebase? | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i thought i saw igordcard earlier, but seems he is not around too :-) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will sync up with him offline (along with OSM and ash) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Application Policy Group (APG) | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Application Policy Group (APG) (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:10 | |
| * tbachman look at ground, kicks rock | 18:10 | |
| * tbachman averts eyes | 18:10 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: no worries :-) | 18:10 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:10 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I’ll have a look at it… proably sometime tomorrow tho | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so yeah, there are few patches on this | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we had discussed the spec earlier, #link #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339272/ | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and the impl patches: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430616, and | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434148/ <— this one is WIP but is close | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any discussion we want have on this today? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will have to post CLI and Heat patches once we are done with these, but need a nod from you guys on these first | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | seems like we havet had enough to look through these yet :-) | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so moving on | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:14 |
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| annak | I have a q about gbpclient if I may | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have to get back to the newton sync, was hoping to quickly wrap up the APG stuff, but its taken longer than imagined | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: sure | 18:15 |
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| annak | i'm trying to align it with newton and was wondering if there's a reason why gbp client doesn't inherit from neutron.ClientBase | 18:16 |
| annak | it seems to solve the newton sync problems | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: ah okay, i would have to go back and look, its been a while since we did it that way, the best i remember is that we had to override some stuff which was not easy to do with the inheritence | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: but if you have it working thats great | 18:18 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: welcome :-) | 18:18 |
| annak | SumitNaiksatam: thanks I'll post this | 18:18 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so i was asking earlier, any additional changes be needed for your patch, apart from rebase? (after the NFP job patch merges) | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: yes please, will take a look | 18:19 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: looks like songole is here now :) | 18:19 |
| songole | Hello | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi there | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks :-) | 18:19 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: sorry, i am late | 18:19 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np! | 18:19 |
| igordcard | was chatting to ash, he mentioned a failure of the QoS patch, but since the there were no failures with the patch that has been workflowed+1 today, I'm not sure if it is still failing | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: np, was asking earlier, wanted the team to understand at a high level what changes we made to NFP job to fix it? | 18:20 |
| igordcard | so as soon as it merges, I'll test QoS with it and fix anything that might be incorrect | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay, i will investigate why it failed in the merge gate | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and now in the check gate | 18:20 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I've no specific info regarding NFP or the gates atm | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: sure, np, checking with songole now | 18:21 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: Ash identified a few issues | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: yes, i saw them in the commit message | 18:21 |
| songole | - VM is not getting IP. dhcp issues | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: but have we removed some scenarios, since its running much faster/shorter now | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (i like it this way) | 18:22 |
| songole | no, it was timing out before | 18:22 |
| songole | hence taking longer | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: oh, if that was the only reason, and we have managed to preserve all the scenarios, thats awesome | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | because i saw it finish in less than hour | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and earlier it used to always be more than that | 18:23 |
| songole | - there was also some bug with polling timeout interval and port security | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay | 18:23 |
| songole | it didn't merge however.. build failed | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: yes, i will investigate | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | others feel free to investigate as well | 18:23 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok. thanks | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | for now i will just recheck, might be a transient issue (my wishful thinking!) | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else have anything else for today? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for future meetings, if you need something to be discussed please feel free to update the meeting agenda directly here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont have anything else for today, so i gues we will wrap up, get back some time :-) | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:26 |
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| annak | bye! | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:26 |
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| songole | bye | 18:26 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 18:26:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-16-18.00.html | 18:26 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-16-18.00.txt | 18:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-02-16-18.00.log.html | 18:26 |
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