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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 3 14:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims,dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero,haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot,crushil, rloo,rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar,therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| dims | o/ | 14:00 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 14:00 |
| shuyingya | o/ | 14:01 |
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| gcb | \o/ | 14:01 |
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| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:02 | |
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| gcb | I checked our periodic-job, there is no red flags | 14:03 |
| dims | nice! | 14:03 |
| jungleboyj | No red flags from Cinder. :-) | 14:03 |
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| gcb | shyingya, any issues in Sahara from oslo side ? | 14:03 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, yeah, thanks | 14:03 |
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| shuyingya | there is no special. But I would like to know how to check the red flags. ^^ | 14:04 |
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| gcb | shuyingya, just check sahara, if there is issue related with oslo | 14:04 |
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| shuyingya | gcb, Yeah. no special means no patch related to oslo | 14:05 |
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| shuyingya | \o/ | 14:05 |
| gcb | shuyingya, we have periodic jobs like http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-nova-py27-with-oslo-master | 14:05 |
| gcb | to make sure master branch oslo libs don't break things before we release them | 14:06 |
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| shuyingya | thanks, gcb. | 14:06 |
| gcb | okay, let's move on | 14:06 |
| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:06 |
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| gcb | #link https://review.openstack.org/452606 our weekly releases were just merged | 14:07 |
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| gcb | As dhellmann suggested ,we released futurist 1.0 | 14:08 |
| gcb | #Stuck reviews | 14:09 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck reviews | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:09 | |
| gcb | Anyone have specific review to raise ? | 14:10 |
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| gcb | I have one #link https://review.openstack.org/328692. I wonder this will break some projects | 14:10 |
| dims | fyi, i am cleaning up old oslo.messaging reviews | 14:11 |
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| gcb | Make method set_override's parameter enforce_type=True by default, this enforces developer to write valid test cases about config options. please help review when you're free | 14:12 |
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| dims | gcb : let's drop a note to -dev and remove it after a few days | 14:12 |
| gcb | dims: thanks, I can aslo help review oslo.messaging patches | 14:13 |
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| gcb | dims: ++, will send to -dev before we merge it | 14:13 |
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| gcb | There are aslo some updates about oslo this week | 14:15 |
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| jungleboyj | I will also bring that up in the weekly Cinder meeting to make people aware. I am not sure if we have that already set. Will check. | 14:15 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, thanks | 14:16 |
| jungleboyj | No problem. | 14:16 |
| gcb | 1. #link https://review.openstack.org/449137 Move castellan under Oslo governance, thanks dims | 14:16 |
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| gcb | 2. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113941.html - Storing configuration options in etcd(?) | 14:17 |
| dims | anyone from barbican around? :) | 14:17 |
| gcb | 3. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114823.html Introduction of new driver for oslo.messaging | 14:17 |
| gcb | dims: I don't think so | 14:18 |
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| dims | gcb : the #3 was for April 1st :) | 14:18 |
| dims | EmilienM : are we going to do #2 above for pike? | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | hello | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | dims: I hope we can make progress | 14:20 |
| gcb | dims: really? you must be joking , engineers shouldn't do that | 14:20 |
| dims | gcb :) it was a joke | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | dims: do we have people working on it? | 14:20 |
| dims | EmilienM : nope | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | yeah that's the problem | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | a lot of folks want it but not sure anyone is active on this task | 14:21 |
| dims | EmilienM : i did some background work, got a library that works with eventlet + etcd3 - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/etcd3gw | 14:21 |
| dims | and will be adding support in tooz to use that library | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | dims: i'll check with therve, he also started something a few weeks ago | 14:21 |
| dims | EmilienM : i thought bnemec may be interested and dhellmann was asking for specific details i think | 14:22 |
| dims | thanks EmilienM | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | ok I'll also check with Ben | 14:22 |
| gcb | EmilienM, dims: that's really a useful feature, I can help review(learn etcd at the same time) | 14:22 |
| dims | gcb : cool. will ping you on the review | 14:23 |
| gcb | dims: sure | 14:23 |
| gcb | okay, that's all update about oslo | 14:24 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:24 |
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| kgiusti | I've got one! | 14:25 |
| kgiusti | I've been working with the Massively Distributed working group | 14:25 |
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| kgiusti | trying to help them scale with respect to messaging... | 14:25 |
| kgiusti | We're trying to determine which backends make sense for a given deployment | 14:26 |
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| kgiusti | for example, why would one use ZeromMQ instead of rabbitmq? | 14:26 |
| kgiusti | or kafka? What are the deployment strategies | 14:27 |
| kgiusti | ? So I'm proposing a forum topic on this: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/62 | 14:27 |
| kgiusti | @ the boston summit. | 14:27 |
| gcb | kgiusti, the question we talked many times before :-) | 14:27 |
| dims | kgiusti : ++ | 14:27 |
| kgiusti | I'd like to work towards some recommendations, backed up with data ideally :) | 14:28 |
| gcb | kgiusti, ++ | 14:28 |
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| kgiusti | TBH - I'm not really an expert in some of these drivers, so it would be great if the other driver specialists would weigh in here and help out. | 14:29 |
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| kgiusti | In any case, something to think about. | 14:29 |
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| gcb | kgiusti, we use rabbit backend in production, would like to help if I can :-) | 14:31 |
| kgiusti | gcb great thanks - also anyone interested in joining the MDWG discussions that would be great. | 14:31 |
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| kgiusti | fyi: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Massively_Distributed_Clouds | 14:32 |
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| gcb | kgiusti, you got my questions, haha, just want to ask lol | 14:33 |
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| kgiusti | One other topic: | 14:33 |
| kgiusti | I've got a proposal accepted @ boston to talk about "dual messaging backends" | 14:34 |
| kgiusti | e.g.: rabbitmq for notifications, Zeromq for rpc, etc... | 14:34 |
| kgiusti | If anyone would like to join the presentation and help out, just ping me on irc. Thanks. | 14:35 |
| * jungleboyj 's head explodes | 14:35 | |
| kgiusti | Wed 10th 11 am | 14:35 |
| kgiusti | jungleboyj: yeah that happens alot. | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | I have a hard enough time understanding the setup with one message service. :-) | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | kgiusti: Ok, glad it isn't just me. | 14:36 |
| kgiusti | :) hopefully with Triple0, etc, support it will be a great bit less painful than it is now. | 14:36 |
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| kgiusti | jungleboyj: but there are tests in CI (heat I believe) that are doing this atm. | 14:37 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, that is good. | 14:37 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, just checkout #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/79 , bring all of your pain points about oslo there | 14:38 |
| kgiusti | but it would be great if we could get kafka, zeromq folks to join the preso | 14:38 |
| gcb | kgiusti, agree | 14:39 |
| jungleboyj | kgiusti: Thanks. | 14:39 |
| kgiusti | thanks everyone. | 14:40 |
| gcb | kgiusti, please go ahead, hope I didn't disturb you :-) | 14:41 |
| kgiusti | gcb: not at all - that's all I have for now. | 14:41 |
| gcb | okay, anyone has other things to discuss ? | 14:42 |
| gcb | I think we can call it a meeting, and back to openstack-oslo to discuss any oslo stuff | 14:44 |
| gcb | BTW, Chinese have 3 days holiday, I will be back on April 5 | 14:45 |
| gcb | thanks everyone | 14:45 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds good. Thanks gcb | 14:46 |
| jungleboyj | Have a good vacation. | 14:46 |
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| gcb | jungleboyj, thanks, have a nice day | 14:47 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 3 14:47:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-04-03-14.00.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-04-03-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 3 15:01:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:01 |
| d0ugal | Hey all! | 15:01 |
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| mgershen | o/ | 15:01 |
| sharatss | hi | 15:01 |
| akuznetsova | hi there | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 15:02 |
| rbrady | o/ | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi all | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | 1 sec | 15:02 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action items | 15:03 |
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| rakhmerov | 1. d0ugal to check for doc liaison tasks | 15:03 |
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| d0ugal | oops, I have not done this. | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:04 |
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| rakhmerov | #action d0ugal to check for doc liaison tasks | 15:04 |
| toure | hello... | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | toure: hey | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov: ask Michal to review the spec about mistral-extra | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | done | 15:04 |
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| rakhmerov | 3. mgershen/team to talk with Renat about bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1672379 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1672379 in Mistral "default task on error not running when task fail to evaluate input" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:04 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I think maybe that wasn't needed in the end | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:05 |
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| rakhmerov | we've kind of touched that, it's not an easy thing to solve now | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | 4. rbrady start sensitive data spec | 15:05 |
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| rakhmerov | it was done | 15:06 |
| mgershen | about 3, should I open a blueprint? | 15:06 |
| toure | hey rakhmerov once I finish fighting with gerrit I have the client code ready for review | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | it even has one +2 | 15:06 |
| toure | :) | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | toure: for error analysis? | 15:06 |
| toure | yup | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | awesome ) | 15:06 |
| toure | merge conflicts | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | #link https://review.openstack.org/450853 | 15:06 |
| toure | :( | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: yes, please | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | ^ that's the sensitive data spec | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:07 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 15:07 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: do you want to add an action to make sure I won't forget? | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | #action mgershen: create a BP about "on-error" semantics | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (quick info from team members) | 15:08 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: reviewing, working on advanced publishing (actually got stuck with lang changes unexpectedly, will probably have to do some serious refactoring first), investigating an issue introduced by new SQLAlchemy | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | the last one was finally fixed today | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | so please provide a short update if you have anything | 15:10 |
| d0ugal | I'm now working on mistral-extra, and starting the ground work for moving the OpenStack actions over. The spec merged today (thanks for reviews!) | 15:10 |
| mgershen | I will have almost no time in the next few weeks to work on mistral, but if something needs reviewing try to ping me. | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | that is great | 15:10 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen: sure, understandable | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | just FYI: akuznetsova is now helping us with some tasks again (which is awesome) | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: could you please tell a little bit about your activities? | 15:12 |
| akuznetsova | yes, for the old times' sake | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:12 |
| akuznetsova | I've published fixes for two bugs | 15:12 |
| * d0ugal needs to catch up with reviews. | 15:13 | |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes! :) | 15:13 |
| akuznetsova | and looked through the list of bugs in mistralclient, there were a lot of old bugs which I closed | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | bug triage ++ | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, I was actually going to do that today at the meeting ) | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | but akuznetsova volunteered to do some pre-filtering | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | great | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: thanks a lot! | 15:14 |
| mgershen | thank you akuznetsova :) | 15:14 |
| apetrich | I'm working on moving some imports from mistral to mistral-lib mostly in tripleo-common (sorry for for the tripleo centric status) | 15:15 |
| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, mgershen you are welcome | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | apetrich: it is extremely valuable for Mistral to show this stuff working, it is all theoretical so far :) | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen, d0ugal: we got a bunch of patches passed through check queue today after we rebased them after merging an SQLA issue so please try to find some time to review them | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | sure | 15:16 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: do you have links? | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal, apetrich: this is very very good, the only thing I'm worried about is that isn't it too early? :) | 15:17 |
| apetrich | d0ugal, I can see that | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: there's too many of them, just look at gerrit pls | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: possibly - but we need to start some time and it'll help direct us what we need to do next. We wont land anything in tripleo yet. | 15:17 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, it is more of proof of concept and identify the early pitfalls | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | if so then it's fine | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | because otherwise the APIs may not be stable yet etc. | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | then this is good really | 15:18 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: ok, I will. | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: I just usually look at "Watched Changes" tab and see patches that recently changed on the top | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok, is there anything else on that? | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: do you have any updates today? | 15:21 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: thrash took care of the spec, I've only done reviews since last week | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | good | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: as far as mistral-lib, are you planning to make more changes in the near future? | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: what do you think is now left? | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | from what we planned | 15:23 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: I think the next steps are the keystone_utils and the openstack actions | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | We need Mistral to depend on msitral-lib and to pass the context | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | rbrady: ^ I think we need that first maybe, but it is easy to hack in for testing :) | 15:23 |
| rbrady | ^^ and what d0ugal said :) | 15:23 |
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| d0ugal | I have a patch locally that does it, I could put it up for review but we need mistral-lib in global-requirements first | 15:24 |
| d0ugal | I'll post it as a starting point at least. | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: having it in global-requirements should not be a huge problem, right? | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | afaik | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: no, that should be easy | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | I just need to find the process and follow it | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | and we need to figure out rpm packaging for the tripleo side - just adding the dep will break tripleos CI I think | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | but again, that should be quite easy. | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | so, we can probably go to an open discussion | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | I don't have any special topics today | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | if you do please bring them up | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 15:28 |
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| rakhmerov | one thing I'd like to share about what I'm doing is that I stumbled on making changes in workflow language in the last few days | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | I found that it became very hard to make such changes | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | What makes it so difficult? | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | this Spec class hierarchy became enormously complex | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | ah | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | The code in mistral.lang.*? | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: too many places to change in order to make even relatively small changes | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | Interesting, I wonder how we can make it easier | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | and then if you look at how to alter tests it's not easier ) | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, that's what I'm thinking about now | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | I have some ideas, will try to implement them | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | one more thing related to that is we may want to have a new version of the language some time in the future | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | and I believe it may happen relatively soon | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | because we've been adding more and more feature into the language | 15:32 |
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| rakhmerov | they are all backwards compatible and hence we lose some opportunities to make the lang more concise and elegant | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | Migrating workflows doesn't sound like fun :) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | no, wait :) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | I didn't mean that ) | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | haha, I know | 15:33 |
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| rakhmerov | what I meant is that we'll have to support more than one language version | 15:33 |
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| rakhmerov | I know, sounds scary | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | yup, but even in that case we would want to upgrade older workflows over time. | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | and especially scary for me after I looked again at how it's now implemented :) | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | lol | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, true we'll probably need to provide some aid to upgrade to a newer version | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | anyway, this is something that I've discussed with a number of people already and seems like this idea of the new lang version may not be that theoretical | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | so, that's just one thing I'm involved in now | 15:35 |
| d0ugal | cool, it would be interesting to see those ideas. | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | ideally I'd like to improve it somehow | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | and btw, I found one thing that makes WF validation slower, I'll fix it soon | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, the mechanism is powerful but it became too heavy | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | that is all from my side | 15:36 |
| d0ugal | I don't really have anything to discuss this week. | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | guys, next time let's sync on Pike-1 tasks | 15:37 |
| d0ugal | sure | 15:37 |
| toure | ack | 15:37 |
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| rakhmerov | please try to find time to check if you're going to meet the scope of Pike-1 | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | another topic I'd like to bring up next week is something I discussed with my boss at Nokia recently | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | so essentially I set up 4 goals for 2017 regarding Mistral | 15:39 |
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| rakhmerov | mostly from our business perspective | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | but anyway, I think these goals reflect my vision of how Mistral should evolve in the next year | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | I'd be interested in discussing these goals with you | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | cool | 15:40 |
| toure | sounds good | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | so that we all understand the direction | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | Sounds like it'll be a busy meeting :) | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:40 |
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| rakhmerov | my suggestion would be even to declare these goals (if we agree on them) somewhere, in the spec repo or a wiki (seriously outdated now btw) | 15:41 |
| d0ugal | a spec? | 15:41 |
| rakhmerov | maybe a spec, yes | 15:41 |
| rakhmerov | so, just to be even more clear: I believe these goals is the 3-4 main things that we should be focusing on in order to make the project more successful | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | and attract more people to it (both users and contributors) | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | ok, details next time ) | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | I am done for sure | 15:42 |
| * toure waits for details | 15:42 | |
| rakhmerov | now | 15:42 |
| toure | :) | 15:42 |
| d0ugal | look forward to it :) | 15:42 |
| d0ugal | toure: haha, rakhmerov is teasing us! | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | :)) | 15:43 |
| toure | indeed | 15:43 |
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| toure | hehe | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, may be a little :) | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | I've been teasing d0ugal for a looong time with a UI tool :) | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | that is something I'd really love to demonstrate some time soon | 15:43 |
| toure | cool | 15:44 |
| toure | can't wait to see it | 15:44 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 15:44 |
| rakhmerov | I'm going to bring that up soon with my management in order to find out when and how we're going to announce it | 15:44 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:44 |
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| rakhmerov | anything else may be? | 15:45 |
| d0ugal | not from me | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | or we can finish for today | 15:45 |
| toure | nothing for me | 15:45 |
| mgershen | nothing for me | 15:45 |
| akuznetsova | nothing from my side | 15:45 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 15:46 |
| rakhmerov | thank you all for coming and for the interesting discussion | 15:46 |
| rakhmerov | see you next week | 15:46 |
| d0ugal | thanks all! | 15:46 |
| toure | have a good one | 15:47 |
| rakhmerov | have a wonderful week guys ) | 15:47 |
| akuznetsova | thanks, bye | 15:47 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:47 |
| toure | ta | 15:47 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 3 15:47:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-04-03-15.01.html | 15:47 |
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| ijw | #startmeeting networking-vpp | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 3 16:01:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ijw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| ijw | Anybody about? | 16:01 |
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| ijw | #info Port resync on restart of the agent has just been approved | 16:07 |
| ijw | #info provisioning_blocks is now in use for delaying L2 binding until all connectivity is established | 16:07 |
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| ijw | #The L3 plugin will shortly be added. | 16:08 |
| ijw | #info The L3 plugin will shortly be added. | 16:08 |
| ijw | #info The launchpad buglist has been updated to reflect bugs and RFEs for 17.04. Please refer to that for work remaining, and feel free to add any tests you consider valuable. | 16:08 |
| ijw | #endmeeting | 16:08 |
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| dtantsur | who's up for an ironic meeting? :) | 16:59 |
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| jroll | \o/ | 16:59 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 3 17:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| aarefiev | o/ | 17:00 |
| mariojv | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
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| crushil | \o | 17:00 |
| jroll | \o | 17:00 |
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| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
| soliosg | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi everyone, thanks for joining :) | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | as usual, our agenda (relatively light today), can be found at: | 17:01 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
| vgadiraj_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| alezil | o/ | 17:01 |
| joanna | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
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| mgoddard | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:01 | |
| dtantsur | #info dtantsur had some good time in Barcelona during his PTO :) | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | nothing else from me, really :) | 17:01 |
| mgoddard | A couple of quick announcements from me. | 17:02 |
| mgoddard | 1. We've just open sourced a project based on kolla for deployment of OpenStack with a focus on baremetal for the scientific computing use case. https://github.com/stackhpc/kayobe. Please get in touch if you're interested in finding out more. | 17:02 |
| mgoddard | 2. In the above project we're doing some interesting things with ironic inspector with the aim of reaching 'zero touch' commissioning of a bare metal cloud. Blog post about it here: https://www.stackhpc.com/ironic-idrac-ztp.html. | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://github.com/stackhpc/kayobe a project based on kolla for deployment of OpenStack with a focus on baremetal for the scientific computing use case | 17:02 |
| yuriyz|2 | o/ | 17:02 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | o/ | 17:03 |
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| rloo | we did a few releases last week | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | #link https://www.stackhpc.com/ironic-idrac-ztp.html Zero-Touch Provisioning using Ironic Inspector and Dell iDRAC by mgoddard | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | rloo, indeed! | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | One announcement from me: I'll be at the leadership training event next week, and on vacation the following week, so I'll be somewhat unavailable. I'll likely need someone to volunteer to run the UI and BFV meetings, or otherwise cancel them. | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | #info first round of Pike releases done last week | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, the UI one is 8pm for me, but I can run the BFV. it does conflict with the api-wg meeting though.. | 17:04 |
| joanna | I can run BFV, I'm there anyway | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | joanna, thanks! | 17:05 |
| joanna | :) | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | #action joanna to run the next BFV subteam meeting | 17:05 |
| * jroll notes that he has a bunch of downstream things going on this week, and also at leadership training next week, so mostly out for two weeks but I'll be around irc if people need a thing | 17:05 | |
| dtantsur | do we have someone to run the UI meeting? | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | I can just cancel the UI meeting, I think it will be fine for a week. | 17:05 |
| jroll | additional info on releases: everything else is done, but the ironic release is waiting on a couple of patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452806/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452787/ | 17:06 |
| crushil | I don't have much experience, but I can try because I am going to be there anyways | 17:06 |
| rajinir | o/ | 17:06 |
| TheJulia | crushil: it is easy, I can give you a run down this week :) | 17:06 |
| crushil | TheJulia, Thanks | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | thanks crushil! | 17:06 |
| crushil | np | 17:06 |
| TheJulia | crushil: thank you! | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | #action crushil to run the next UI subteam meeting | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | oh, I guess it's not "the next".. | 17:07 |
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| * dtantsur wonders if he should #undo that actions, or it's clear enough.. | 17:07 | |
| TheJulia | Week after, I'm sure I'll be on some next week. | 17:07 |
| * TheJulia thinks undo and then note it again | 17:07 | |
| dtantsur | #undo | 17:07 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action crushil to run the next UI subteam meeting | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | #undo | 17:07 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action joanna to run the next BFV subteam meeting | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | #action joanna to run the BFV meeting next week | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | better? | 17:08 |
| jroll | ++ | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | #action crushil to run the UI subteam meeting next week | 17:08 |
| TheJulia | Yeah I guess | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | cool :) anything else from folks? | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:09 | |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | starting with line 87 | 17:09 |
| rloo | dtantsur: as a side note, did you decide wrt trello? | 17:11 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thinking we should delete the trello links | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | rloo, nope, we can have a voting later :) /me knows folks like voting | 17:11 |
| * rloo likes votes, reminder of how democracy could work | 17:12 | |
| rloo | so the physical network stuff, that spec merged last week, didn't it? | 17:12 |
| rloo | L196 | 17:12 |
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| rloo | JayF, TheJulia: wrt documentation reorg, it is April. L207. | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/physical-network-awareness.html | 17:13 |
| jroll | rloo: it did | 17:13 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Good point, I've been waiting on a spec, but I've not seen it yet. | 17:13 |
| rloo | folks, please remember to update the status's :) | 17:13 |
| mgoddard | rloo: my bad | 17:14 |
| * rloo updates status' with guesses :) | 17:14 | |
| TheJulia | heh | 17:14 |
| * TheJulia liked the ORLY | 17:14 | |
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| jroll | :D | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | rpioso, hey! do you plan on creating a new-style hardware type for Drac or should one of us (one of me?) write it? | 17:15 |
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| rloo | wrt the oslo note (L276). anyone want to volunteer to look into any impact on ironic? | 17:16 |
| * rloo wonders how many dtantsurs there are | 17:17 | |
| rpioso | dtantur: Welcome back! | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I am qualitative, not quantitative! :) | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | rpioso, thanks! | 17:17 |
| jroll | the oslo thing should be easy, just stare at logs for warnings :) | 17:17 |
| rloo | jroll: we need a starer! | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | or we can proactively switch that flag to true | 17:18 |
| jroll | I'd rather not take that task but can if we get no volunteers | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | Why not automate that? | 17:18 |
| * TheJulia ducsk | 17:18 | |
| TheJulia | ducks | 17:18 |
| jroll | curl $logfile | grep 'the warning' | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | It actually should be easy, pull down the library, merge, manually install with pip, restart | 17:18 |
| rloo | jroll: would be nice if a noncore takes that on. | 17:18 |
| jroll | rloo: indeed | 17:18 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Please elaborate. | 17:18 |
| rloo | jroll: we could file a bug, 'low hanging fruit'? | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | +1 to bug | 17:19 |
| rloo | ok, /me files a bug then :) | 17:19 |
| jroll | TheJulia: even easier, we only use it in unit tests | 17:19 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: We could discuss outside of this meeting. | 17:19 |
| * jroll may jfdi | 17:19 | |
| dtantsur | rpioso, yep, let's do it. not really urgent. | 17:19 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Cool! ty | 17:20 |
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| dtantsur | we're past 10 minutes cap for the review. are folks still reviewing? | 17:22 |
| vdrok | seems like time to move on :) | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deciding on priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:22 | |
| rloo | i'm done with subteam reports. but leading to next stuff. there are some deadlines coming up, next week: glance, manila, nova spec freeze | 17:22 |
| rloo | does that impact us, are there things we ought to look at soon? | 17:22 |
| jroll | I can check on our nova work this week | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | do we need nova specs for any priorities? BFV? | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | #action jroll to check on our nova work this week | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | last I looked we only needed a blueprint for BFV with nova | 17:23 |
| jroll | afaik we have approved BPs for everything we want to do, but I'll double check | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 17:23 |
| jroll | np | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | as to priorities, I applied only minimal changes to the list from last week | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | well, I'd prefer to bump redfish priority for reasons already known to the core team :-/ | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | (sorry for secrecy here) | 17:24 |
| rloo | dtantsur: true, but I don't think we should. | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | rloo, why? | 17:25 |
| rloo | dtantsur: can discuss later | 17:25 |
| * mariojv is lost here | 17:25 | |
| * TheJulia thinks she groks it | 17:25 | |
| rloo | it isn't a high priority | 17:25 |
| rloo | i think if the community wants it, they'll review, regardless if it is on our list of priorities or not | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | well, it's going to be on my personal high priority list anyway | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | but ok | 17:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: which is perfectly fine! | 17:26 |
| jroll | rloo: I think you and dtantsur agree, don't have it on this weeks priorities | 17:26 |
| jroll | right? | 17:26 |
| * TheJulia agrees | 17:26 | |
| * jroll not sure if bump means bump up or bump off here | 17:27 | |
| mariojv | i agree with bumping for this week | 17:27 |
| * TheJulia wonders if we should be using more specific words | 17:27 | |
| mariojv | it can stay on the spec priority list imo | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | yeah, my English lets me down sometimes. I meant to raise its priority. | 17:27 |
| jroll | spec is merged :) | 17:27 |
| jroll | ah | 17:27 |
| mariojv | and we can update and have gerrit votes on that, if that has to change, im | 17:27 |
| mariojv | *imo | 17:27 |
| rloo | redfish driver isn't on this week's list of priorities | 17:27 |
| rloo | see L75+ | 17:27 |
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| TheJulia | I think organically through community reviews would be best, if the community wants to see it sooner rather than later, it will get reviews | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | sorry for confusion, everyone. what I suggested (and what rloo correctly understood, I think) is adding redfish to the prio list | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | it seems like we're in agreement that we should not. | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | seems like it | 17:29 |
| jroll | yeah, I'm fine leaving it off | 17:29 |
| jroll | actually I'm fine either way :P | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | so, does the list look ok now? | 17:29 |
| jroll | would be nice to just get it done, but it isn't a high priority | 17:29 |
| jroll | yep, fine with me | 17:29 |
| * dtantsur blames daylight saving change for his condition >_< | 17:29 | |
| rloo | the osc default API version change. is there an urgency with that, or we just have to do it anyttime in pike? | 17:29 |
| mariojv | i think it's fine as long as it gets in 3 months before queens | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | what mariojv just said | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:30 |
| rloo | mariojv: ok, remind us if we get close and it ain't | 17:30 |
| mariojv | will do | 17:30 |
| jroll | if it doesn't, we just need to drop it later in queens, is that a problem? :) | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | I don't see it as a problem personally, just revise the spec | 17:31 |
| mariojv | i still need to get ironic CLI patch up and have it log when using client library | 17:31 |
| rloo | jroll: i'd like it to be done, sooner rather than later | 17:31 |
| mariojv | but spec and openstack CLI patches are up | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | +1 on just getting it done. | 17:31 |
| mariojv | jroll: not a problem, but no reason to not do it soon :) | 17:31 |
| rloo | i think i'm good with priorities for this week. will maybe ask aout network ones next week :) | 17:31 |
| jroll | yep | 17:31 |
| mariojv | +1 priorities look fine to me | 17:31 |
| jroll | they LGTM | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | same | 17:31 |
| vdrok | +1 | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | awesome | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE review (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:32 | |
| dtantsur | we have some this time! | 17:32 |
| mariojv | \o/ | 17:32 |
| * jroll gets ready to yell | 17:32 | |
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| vdrok | this time I added a couple | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1669243 - Support for zmq in ironic | 17:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669243 in Ironic "[RFE] Ironic doesn't support zmq with oslo.messaging" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Galyna Zholtkevych (gzholtkevych) | 17:32 |
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| vdrok | first one seems to be pretty easy, do we want to support zeromq? | 17:33 |
| jroll | this one shouldn't be an RFE, IMO - we claim to support any oslo.messaging-supported backend, feels like a bug if zmg is broken | 17:33 |
| jroll | s/zmg/zmq/ | 17:33 |
| mariojv | +1 to what jroll said | 17:33 |
| vdrok | yup, I'm fine with that too | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:33 |
| mariojv | if there's not a huge technical reason not to support it, we should, imo | 17:33 |
| rloo | +1, seems like a bug | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | any objections to treating it as a bug? | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | none | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | #agreed treat broken zmq support as a bug, not RFE | 17:34 |
| rloo | but pleeeeeze, if it needs an rpc bump, can it wait til after rolling upgrades? :) me adds comment | 17:34 |
| jroll | ++ | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | hah, ++ | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | next | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1678134 - plugin for setting local link connection switch info from LLDP system name | 17:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1678134 in Ironic Inspector "[RFE] plugin for setting local link connection switch info from LLDP system name" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Mark Goddard (mgoddard) | 17:35 |
| vdrok | the second one is a bit harder, it seems like there is a confusion among the ml2 drivers maintainers | 17:35 |
| vdrok | it seems like cisco and oneview ml2 drivers implemented the switch_info as dictionaries | 17:35 |
| jroll | I thought switch_info was intended to be a dict | 17:36 |
| vdrok | and in case of oneview, they want to make switch_info required i suppose, at least from this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377106/9 | 17:36 |
| vsaienk0 | jroll: according to the spec it was designed as a string | 17:36 |
| mgoddard | the ironic-neutron ml2 spec didn't specify what format it should take, but gave the suggestion that it could be switch system anem, which is a string | 17:36 |
| mgoddard | s/anem/name | 17:37 |
| vsaienk0 | mgoddard: it is specified in the spec both port_id switch_id and switch_info are string fields | 17:37 |
| jroll | oh right, it does say it's a string | 17:37 |
| * jroll scratches his head | 17:37 | |
| vdrok | well, it explicitly stated strings :) but, we have to deal with it somehow at this point | 17:37 |
| mgoddard | right you are vsaienko | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | can't we fix the plugins to (also?) allow strings there? | 17:38 |
| * jroll bets it's a string that looks like a dict | 17:38 | |
| vsaienk0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188528/7/specs/liberty/ironic-ml2-integration.rst@94 | 17:38 |
| jroll | regardless, the switch_info field is meant to be optional, and vendor-specific. so a plugin layer for inspector seems sane enough there | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | I'm also fine with putting a name there, and allowing plugins to overwrite, but dunno.. | 17:39 |
| jroll | kinda sucks that we have to do it, but it's explicitly vendor specific, so what can you do | 17:39 |
| ricardoas | thats right, jroll... we've been using switch_info as a string that looks like a dict | 17:39 |
| mgoddard | sambetts made the point that the plugin may need to be aware of the switch that the node is connected to in order to determine the correct thing to put there | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | I'm pretty sure I don't like the base class approach though | 17:40 |
| ricardoas | jroll in fact, more like a json object | 17:40 |
| jroll | ricardoas: which I don't quite like, but alas | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | we need separate plugins layered on top of the generic one, not inheriting from it | 17:40 |
| vsaienk0 | it is better to use a new key switch_capabilities to define a switch capabilities as LLDP field is capabilities not info | 17:40 |
| jroll | the confusion around this makes it sound spec-able | 17:41 |
| jroll | lots of ideas here | 17:41 |
| jroll | should be a quick spec to write | 17:41 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: it is layered in my proposal, as the generic plugin now inherits from the base | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | spec-able, and also it feels like all of the information needs to be presented | 17:41 |
| jroll | TheJulia: ++ | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | because it seems like there are several vectors that can and should be addressed | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard, well, I'm probably using the wrong word, but I'd like inheriting to disappear for the picture | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | including possibly changing the ml2 drivers to be more consistent or possibly small architectural changes to improve the overall experience. | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard, in favor of just having another small plugin running after the generic one and adding the name. dunno how easily doable it is | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard, I suspect we need to plug bfournie's LLDP work in | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | also ++ for a spec | 17:43 |
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| dtantsur | objections? | 17:43 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: it's doable, would just require a refactor | 17:43 |
| vdrok | nope, makes sense to me | 17:43 |
| jroll | dtantsur: +1 | 17:44 |
| mgoddard | seems reasonable | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | #agreed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1678134 will need a spec to clarify all the details | 17:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1678134 in Ironic Inspector "[RFE] plugin for setting local link connection switch info from LLDP system name" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Mark Goddard (mgoddard) | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | anything else here before we move on? | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | #topic What about having the first mid(not really mid)cycle soon? | 17:45 |
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| TheJulia | +1 | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | I remember we talked about having more virtual meet-ups | 17:45 |
| rloo | why do we want it? | 17:45 |
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| dtantsur | rloo, high throughput, especially around RFE/spec reviews and agreeing on contentions points | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | I think it would be really good to get on the same page, even if it just for a couple hours talking on a call prior to the summit. | 17:45 |
| jroll | I'd almost prefer having a discrete list of things to work through, but syncing up is always helpful too | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | I agree with jroll | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | I remember we had 8 4-hour slot on the last virtual midcycle, right? we can have only 2 slots now, one in each time | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | s/8/6/ maybe, it was 3 days | 17:46 |
| rloo | oh. i don't mind a meeting to sync up. guess i'm not sure i want it to be called a midcycle meetup. | 17:46 |
| jroll | I think it was 6 slots, but yeah | 17:46 |
| rpioso | Do we plan to meet at the Summit Forum? | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | It was 6 | 17:46 |
| mariojv | i'd be fine with that ^ i think later in the cycle might be better for a real midcycle | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I used word "midcycle" to give folks a quick idea what I mean | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | do we have a curated list of items to discuss dtantsur ? | 17:47 |
| mariojv | by "that" i mean the 2 slots | 17:47 |
| rloo | i mean, several short syncs during a cycle are great. we should have them when we 'need' them. | 17:47 |
| jroll | rpioso: afaik we only have 2-3 devs going, so while they will probably meet up it won't be a team meetup | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, not now, but I do have a few things in mind. e.g. ongoing nova work and what to do about capabilities.. | 17:47 |
| rloo | eg, if we have say 2 features that are ready, then lets just meet to *do* them. | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | rloo, e.g. rolling upgrades, I guess, could use more eyes and discussion | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | this is really just a guess though | 17:48 |
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| rpioso | jroll: ty | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | anyway, what I wanted today is to suggest it and let you think if you have something for a high-throughput discussion | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: It might also be prudent to spend a little time discussing stand-alone usage related items, but that is just a thought | 17:48 |
| rloo | dtantsur: so TheJulia and jroll are away next week, and TheJulia is away the week after. Shall we tentatively schedule something the week TheJulia is back? | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, yep, especially if you'll have a list of rough edges by then | 17:49 |
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| dtantsur | rloo, ++ | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: already mostly typed out :) | 17:49 |
| wanyen | dtantsur, will virtual meetup logistics be published so non-core can participate? | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | wanyen, definitely! | 17:49 |
| vdrok | wanyen: sure | 17:49 |
| rloo | and then the/a big problem is time... | 17:49 |
| wanyen | thanks | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | this is one of the big goals | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | wanyen, it will probably be something like SIP, but other FOSS-friendly options will be considered too | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, which dates are you free? I'm confused with "next" here.. | 17:50 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Starting back the week of the 24th | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | ack | 17:51 |
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| rloo | that's the week just before summit | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | which is good, I guess | 17:51 |
| rloo | oh no. there is another week after that. | 17:51 |
| rloo | that woudl be a good week then. | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | #agreed Let's think if we find value in a virtual meetup (similar to previous virtual midcycle) e.g. on the week of Apr 24th | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | right? | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | Yup | 17:52 |
| rloo | yup. i guess we shoudl have an etherpad for people to suggest things. | 17:52 |
| rloo | and possible days/times. | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | #action dtantsur to announce this idea on the mailing list and create an etherpad for potential topics | 17:52 |
| rloo | i hope it is just one day, one block of time. but i guess it depends on what we talk about. | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | rloo, probably 2 blocks on one day because of timezones... | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | but ok, let's think about it for some more time | 17:53 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i really would like to see more focused things, to get concrete stuff done, but yeah, let's see. | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | rloo++ | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | any more comments before I open the floor? | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:54 |
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| mariojv | i have a small thing about rescue mode i'd like to bring up, proxying for JayF | 17:54 |
| mariojv | basically, in nova, they allow a user to specify which image will be used when rescuing an instance - so the image will specify info about which user is created for SSH access when rescue finishes | 17:54 |
| mariojv | with ironic, we're not letting the user specify the rescue image, since that doesn't really make sense in our case | 17:54 |
| mariojv | so this brings up the question of what to call our rescue user | 17:54 |
| mariojv | current behavior is to create a user called "rescue" that has passwordless sudo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423521/15/imagebuild/coreos/oem/finalize_rescue.sh (L6) | 17:54 |
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| mariojv | i prefer this over having the user just login as root immediately with the password given from nova | 17:54 |
| mariojv | but it's still a decision we didn't really spell out explicitly in the spec, so i wanted to get community opinion on this | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | so, these are two questions, right? whether to allow user images and what user to use? | 17:55 |
| jroll | maybe make the user configurable? | 17:55 |
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| mariojv | i mainly wanted to focus on which user, for this discussion | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | tbh, I'm fine with having root, if 'sudo -i' is going to be the first thing for people to do.. | 17:55 |
| rloo | mariojv: dumb question cuz i am not familar with rescue. shouldn't it work with nova's rescue? | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | The person maintaining the volume connection API patch would like to get some reviews in order to head off nitpicking when it finally comes time to land the patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214586/ It has a few pep8 errors which I'll try to fix today. | 17:56 |
| mariojv | rloo: yes - but in the nova case, they have user images when rescuing, so that's where they specify it | 17:56 |
| mariojv | i think i'd be fine with having it root by default, in that case, dtantsur | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | in other words: do we have a use case for non-root access to the rescue image? | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214586/ - volume connection API patch that could use early reviews | 17:56 |
| mariojv | and maybe just have some docs for how to change it when building IPA if they want to (make it configurable in that way like jroll suggested) | 17:57 |
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| jroll | I'm okay with just root | 17:57 |
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| mariojv | dtantsur: i guess i was just a bit worried about giving a user something that they can do damage with, by default | 17:57 |
| jroll | it doesn't really increase security to use a non-root user, if they have sudo | 17:57 |
| mariojv | but maybe that's ok, since it's a ramdisk | 17:57 |
| TheJulia | 3 minutes | 17:57 |
| mariojv | yeah, not security, more prevent you from accidentally doing bad things | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | mariojv, without root they won't even be able to mount disks (neither to access them) | 17:57 |
| mariojv | ah that's a good point | 17:58 |
| mariojv | ok, let's keep it as root then | 17:58 |
| wanyen | so why it doesn't make sense for user to pick what rescue image? | 17:58 |
| mariojv | that seems to be the default in a lot of nova docs for rescue mode anyway | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | 2 minute warning | 17:58 |
| mariojv | wanyen: that's a longer discussion than we have time for here | 17:58 |
| jroll | tl;dr because pxe boot | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | oh that Pixie :D | 17:59 |
| mariojv | wanyen: but basically it opens up a huge amount of security risk, allowing someone to boot an arbitrary ramdisk | 17:59 |
| vdrok | I'm not sure if anyone seen this spec from yuriyz -- https://review.openstack.org/452182, while it was intended for 1st april, it seems like whis will work for ipa authentication, if someone has a bit of time to read through | 17:59 |
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| mariojv | and it'd be a big pain implementation wise | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | we're running out of time. thanks everyone! | 18:00 |
| mariojv | thanks! | 18:00 |
| vdrok | thanks | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | Thanks! | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting ironic | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 3 18:00:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-04-03-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-04-03-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-04-03-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 3 20:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' | 20:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 20:00 |
| kmARC | o/ | 20:00 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 20:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 20:00 |
| ildikov | hi all :) | 20:00 |
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| ildikov | agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings | 20:01 |
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| HoloIRCUser | Hi | 20:02 |
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| ildikov | as for the TODO's I started to update the web page with the latest information | 20:02 |
| skelso | Trying again w/correct nick | 20:03 |
| ildikov | I need to look nito the Intro slides to get that up to date as well | 20:03 |
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| ildikov | jungleboyj is on vacation today, so we can take the releases section to the next week's meeting | 20:03 |
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| ildikov | last time we started to go through the sections and discuss what to clean up and improve on them | 20:04 |
| diablo_rojo | I have updated the Communication, Overview of Contribution Processes and Events sections and the changes have been merged. | 20:04 |
| ildikov | reviews can be found here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides | 20:05 |
| ildikov | currently we don't have open reviews, so I would like to encourage everyone to create some :) | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, +1 | 20:06 |
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| ildikov | I think we can start with the wiki agenda topic and then go back to reviews the material | 20:06 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: does it sound good? | 20:06 |
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| diablo_rojo | Works for me | 20:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | The first topic I had was just updates on last weeks TODO's | 20:07 |
| ildikov | #topic Wiki page updates | 20:07 |
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| ildikov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute | 20:07 |
| ildikov | as a reminder we have a team wiki page | 20:08 |
| ildikov | please check whether you're listed among the team members | 20:08 |
| ildikov | also please check whether the information there is all filled and up to date | 20:08 |
| ildikov | if you know already that you're available for the Boston training please highlight that there as well | 20:09 |
| diablo_rojo | It would be especially helpful if people could fill in if they are attending the training in Boston | 20:09 |
| ildikov | if you cannot join for both days that's still ok, please provide the info when you'll be available so we can figure out the setup and plans | 20:09 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: is there anything I missed? | 20:10 |
| spotz | hey all | 20:11 |
| ildikov | spotz: hi :) | 20:11 |
| ildikov | spotz: thanks for joining | 20:11 |
| spotz | Sorry I'm late | 20:12 |
| ildikov | ok, we can move on from the wiki if no one has related questions | 20:12 |
| ildikov | spotz: no worries, we're on the administrative side still :) | 20:12 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, nope thats it | 20:13 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: cool, thanks! | 20:13 |
| ildikov | as I saw kmARC around, if it works for him it would be good to quickly touch on the VM image :) | 20:13 |
| kmARC | yepp, let's do that! :-) | 20:13 |
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| ildikov | #topic VM image update for the training | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VM image update for the training (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:13 | |
| ildikov | kmARC: can you give us a brief update on what needs to be done? | 20:14 |
| kmARC | I'm trying to upgrade it to Ubuntu 16.04 and Ocata | 20:14 |
| kmARC | ran into some problems, but hopefully will tackle them | 20:14 |
| ildikov | kmARC: also if there's anything you need more hands on, please highlight those too | 20:14 |
| kmARC | sure | 20:15 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: is there anything from those problems we should discuss here? | 20:15 |
| * mlavalle updated wiki | 20:15 | |
| kmARC | question to all of you: anyone misses anything from the VM that would be desirable to be installed / set up? | 20:15 |
| kmARC | @ildikov not for the time being | 20:15 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: tnx | 20:16 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: as we have new people on board, can you give a quick list on what we have there already? | 20:16 |
| kmARC | Sure. bit.ly/training-vm , check it out! ;-) | 20:17 |
| kmARC | basically this VM is a downloadable asset, published a day or two before the upstream training | 20:17 |
| ildikov | kmARC: :) | 20:18 |
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| kmARC | it has all the tools installed with which one can start development on openstack projects | 20:18 |
| kmARC | it utilizes devstack, with networking set up properly, some text editors and a Windows95-like UI (XFCE) | 20:18 |
| spotz | kmARC: So it has git and gerrit already installed? | 20:18 |
| kmARC | yes | 20:18 |
| spotz | cool | 20:19 |
| kmARC | Also set's up some convenience bookmarks, etc. | 20:19 |
| kmARC | sets* | 20:19 |
| spotz | nice | 20:19 |
| kmARC | it's built automatically through Vagrant, so one can assemble their own, however we also release (automatically built of course ;-) ) one version before the training in ova format, so the students just need to import into their virtualbox | 20:20 |
| kmARC | That is it in a nutshell | 20:20 |
| sekelso | Sorry, rejoining after a bit...do we pub pre-reqs for the VM before the meeting? | 20:20 |
| kmARC | yes | 20:20 |
| kmARC | it's on the link | 20:20 |
| kmARC | check it out ;-) | 20:20 |
| sekelso | Cool. | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | sekelso, I think it is also in our docs for the upstream training | 20:21 |
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| kmARC | basically the README.md on github tells everything | 20:21 |
| ildikov | kmARC: do we already have a version up on tarballs.o.o? | 20:22 |
| kmARC | Unfortunately not. | 20:22 |
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| mrmartin | I can help with that if we are talking infra / jenkins integration here. | 20:22 |
| ildikov | kmARC: do you need any help with that? | 20:22 |
| ildikov | mrmartin: we started to discussed this with them already | 20:23 |
| sekelso | Ah, I'm thinking more like on the session page in the Summit agenda. A "go read this before you show up" kind of thing. | 20:23 |
| kmARC | @ildikov yes, we definitely should get some help with that | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | sekelso, last time we sent out something to people that were registered with that info in it | 20:24 |
| sekelso | K, got it. Thanks. | 20:24 |
| ildikov | sekelso: we send out reminder mails to people who registered and add info there | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | sekelso, No problem :) | 20:24 |
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| ildikov | sekelso: although it might make people more interested if they have some more pointers in the description on the schedule :) | 20:24 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: sorry, I've just seen you type way faster than me :) | 20:25 |
| skelso | Agreed... | 20:25 |
| ildikov | kmARC: I guess there's no point in uploading the old image | 20:25 |
| kmARC | No | 20:26 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: so I think when we have something that works close to the training we can publish that | 20:26 |
| kmARC | We should find an automated way to deploy it, after all it's just a shell script, however last time we run into some problems - which I cannot recall right now | 20:26 |
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| kmARC | exactly | 20:26 |
| ildikov | kmARC: and then update in case we had to fix smth on it | 20:26 |
| ildikov | kmARC: yes, I just meant that we agreed with the infra guys last time that the first version goes up manually | 20:27 |
| ildikov | kmARC: and then we automate | 20:27 |
| ildikov | kmARC: if we look into automation after the training I think that should be fine too, not the highest priority right now | 20:27 |
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| kmARC | okay, then let's do this | 20:28 |
| ildikov | kmARC: although if you can recall what the issues were we can ping people with that to get progres sin parallel | 20:28 |
| kmARC | sure, it should be somewhere in my IRC Logs :-) | 20:28 |
| ildikov | kmARC: we also talked about moving the source/scripts to the training-guides repo | 20:28 |
| ildikov | kmARC: :) | 20:29 |
| ildikov | kmARC: are you planning to do that? | 20:29 |
| kmARC | I can look into that too | 20:29 |
| ildikov | kmARC: cool, tnx | 20:29 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: if there's anything to bring up, we have an IRC channel now: #openstack-upstream-institute | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | kmARC, you have a lot of todo's :) | 20:30 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: and we're using the os-upstream-institute tag on the mailing list | 20:30 |
| kmARC | (I love the new name Upstream Institute a LOT. sounds like a fancy R&D lab or something :-D ) | 20:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: no need to wait until the next meeting if you need help with anything | 20:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: lol :) | 20:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: do you have anything else in mind we should talk about in connection to the VM image? | 20:32 |
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| kmARC | Right now nothing. If anyone has any suggestions or so, just ping me, I am a nice person, will answer ;-) | 20:33 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: coo, tnx :) | 20:34 |
| ildikov | *cool | 20:34 |
| ildikov | I would like to encourage everyone to look into what we have and give feedback and suggestions if you have anything in mind that would be needed/useful! | 20:35 |
| ildikov | let's move on :) | 20:35 |
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| ildikov | #topic Updating the material | 20:36 |
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| ildikov | I think last time we stopped at the Governance section | 20:37 |
| ildikov | I think we were all in an agreement that it could use some thoughts and updates to make it better | 20:37 |
| ildikov | especially with the mindset of an interactive training, where we would like to get the people involved | 20:38 |
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| ildikov | as a quick reminder the training room is planned to have round tables in it and we will try to group people by area of interest | 20:38 |
| diablo_rojo | We agreed that it was important to cover, but I think that was about it | 20:38 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: +1 | 20:39 |
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| ildikov | IIRC we came up with ideas like trying to get the groups at the tables to have a team structure | 20:39 |
| ildikov | like cores and a PTL | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that sounds right | 20:40 |
| ildikov | if we can come up with exercises that leverages this setup we could bring back a few parts of the earlier Lego slot, that we removed from the training before Barcelona | 20:40 |
| ildikov | what do you all think about this? | 20:40 |
| skelso | In a role-playing sort of way? Or do we expect there will be a more experienced person at each table? | 20:40 |
| kmARC | in this case even I agree with the moderated version of the Lego excercises | 20:41 |
| ildikov | skelso: role playing way | 20:41 |
| mrmartin | +1 to Lego | 20:41 |
| ildikov | kmARC: mrmartin: to clarify, we will not have Lego in Boston | 20:42 |
| ildikov | kmARC: mrmartin: the idea is to bring back some of the ideas from it that brings people closer to get an idea how the community operates | 20:43 |
| mrmartin | ok | 20:43 |
| ildikov | mrmartin: does 'ok' equals to 'that sound good'? :) | 20:44 |
| kmARC | well I think it were the _ideas_ that weren't relevant but at least the plastic lego pieces were fun ;-) | 20:44 |
| mrmartin | exactly. | 20:44 |
| kmARC | what I am saying, let's don't start talking about SCCRUM and other corporate BS which isn't applicable at all to how the OpenStack community operates | 20:45 |
| ildikov | kmARC: tnx, always good to have kids around :) | 20:45 |
| mrmartin | do you have any specific ideas for those role playing games? | 20:45 |
| ildikov | kmARC: exactly, that's why we came up with idea to form project teams from the groups we have in the room for instance | 20:45 |
| kmARC | (I like the roundtable idea btw.) | 20:46 |
| ildikov | kmARC: so people can understand some bits of the governance structure, but no Agile or Scrum | 20:46 |
| kmARC | makes sense, thanks for the clarification | 20:47 |
| ildikov | mrmartin: long term it would be great with come up with a bigger task that requires people in the groups to interact with each other and also interaction within groups | 20:47 |
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| diablo_rojo | something more for the second day | 20:48 |
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| ildikov | mrmartin: but we don't have a concrete theme at this point | 20:48 |
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| diablo_rojo | mrmartin, got any ideas? ;) | 20:48 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: +1 | 20:48 |
| skelso | From my POV, the challenge is if you put a bunch of corp. folks (and that's who seemed to dominate the Barceolona class, me included), they'll get confused without a "this is different" bit of preaching somewhere in the beginning. | 20:48 |
| mrmartin | I can ask my coach friends to suggest something useful. | 20:48 |
| ildikov | first day is more introduction to what we have as for processes/tools still, but we're trying to bring as much exercises/interaction into the whole thing as possible | 20:48 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: I didn't get to make any progress on my work items the last week. Had other things to tackle prepping for vacation. | 20:48 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Hoping to tackle things when back next week. | 20:49 |
| skelso | B/c we'll all want to elect a project manager to tell us what to do :) | 20:49 |
| ildikov | skelso: do you mean compared to Agile? | 20:49 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: no worries | 20:49 |
| skelso | Yeah...that being one of the dominant contexts folks come to the class from. | 20:49 |
| diablo_rojo | A pm is basically a scrum master | 20:49 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: you can also upload a patch for review when you get there and we can discuss it on the meeting, etc. | 20:50 |
| diablo_rojo | skelso, thats why the governance section is important, we want to make it clear that it is not the same as in your companies | 20:50 |
| ildikov | skelso: we have a short Agile block as part of the intro section | 20:50 |
| skelso | True, this is why I'm thinking about it. Governance is great context, but it's a floor or two above the team level. | 20:51 |
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| ildikov | skelso: and we have an exercise in connection to that for the groups to dicuss what can be different in open source and why, etc. | 20:51 |
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| skelso | Now that sounds helpful | 20:51 |
| ildikov | skelso: so we open it up for discussion and summarize the outcome of the group chats at the beggining | 20:52 |
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| ildikov | skelso: I think we can kind of complement this with the governance section to get to the big picture | 20:52 |
| skelso | Okay, cool. We need to equip folks to tell their managers both how the community works, and also why it works that way. | 20:52 |
| jungleboyj | skelso We talked about this last week as well. Important to give people the context of how decisions are made for the community.. | 20:53 |
| skelso | K, understood. | 20:53 |
| diablo_rojo | Those sections of the slides were there in Barcelona, maybe we need to stress it a bit more. | 20:53 |
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| jungleboyj | I will need to look at those. Don't remember what all was there. | 20:54 |
| diablo_rojo | https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/intro-openstack-as-community.html#6 | 20:54 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: the Agile part is one slide and one more for the exercise :) | 20:55 |
| diablo_rojo | The last two slides in that deck are what ildikov and I are talking about | 20:55 |
| skelso | Reading... | 20:55 |
| ildikov | as for governance we need to find the right amount of information to share so we don't overload people with information | 20:55 |
| ildikov | also we have 5 minutes left from the today's meeting | 20:56 |
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| ildikov | is there anyone of you who can look into the Governance section and come up with ideas on how to improve it? | 20:57 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, I can take a look | 20:57 |
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| skelso | Yes, I'll take a look also | 20:57 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: skelso: cool, thanks! | 20:58 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Ok, I remember those slides now. | 20:58 |
| jungleboyj | I think those questions are still good to work with. | 20:58 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: skelso: if you can also give some thoughts to the role playing game and whether or not we could simulate the elections for instance that would be great | 20:58 |
| skelso | Yes, certainly. | 20:59 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:59 |
| ildikov | ok, we need to wrap up | 20:59 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: I thought we weren't gong to do the role playing due to time. | 21:00 |
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| ildikov | next week we will look into the tools part and the deep dives to get progress on that too | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | bye | 21:00 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Sounds good. | 21:00 |
| diablo_rojo | If everyone could just take a look at all the slides for next week that would be super helpful. That way we can spend less time talking about what is there and more time about how to make them better :) | 21:00 |
| ildikov | thanks everyone, talk to you on the channel or next week the latest | 21:00 |
| spotz | :) | 21:00 |
| kmARC | diablo_rojo: +1 | 21:00 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: +1 | 21:00 |
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| ildikov | have a good week! | 21:00 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, will do. | 21:00 |
| spotz | just grab me in channel if you guys need me for anything in the meantime | 21:00 |
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| kmARC | bye | 21:01 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 3 21:01:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:01 |
| mlavalle | bye | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-04-03-20.00.html | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-04-03-20.00.txt | 21:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-04-03-20.00.log.html | 21:01 |
| ildikov | spotz: tnx! | 21:01 |
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| jungleboyj | Bye. | 21:01 |
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