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soichihi05:32
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soichianybody who taas folsk?05:37
reediphi soichi05:38
reedipsorry05:38
soichihi05:38
reedipwas a bit late05:38
reedipcan we start the meeting?05:38
reedipor should we wait>05:38
soichii have no update for today05:39
soichido you have?05:39
reedipsoichi ok , lets do it for a quick 5 minutes05:39
reedip#startmeeting taas05:39
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reedip#chair soichi, reedip05:39
openstackCurrent chairs: reedip soichi05:39
reedip#topic Open Discussion05:39
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reedipHi soichi , I discussed with Armax about the inclusion of TaaS into the stadium05:40
reedipThe following steps need to be completed05:40
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yamamotohi05:40
soichiyamamoto: hi05:40
reedipStep a) Create a Spec in the Neutron-Specs, to highlight what are the things already completed for Inclusion in Neutron stadium by taas05:41
reedipStep b) Update documentation and Test Scenarios05:41
reedipStep c) Migrate API to neutron-lib and CLI to NeutronCLient( This is already in progress)05:41
reedipyamamoto : hi05:41
reedipsoichi : once the above steps are completed, stadium inclusion would be easier...05:42
soichii see05:42
yamamotoreedip: are those steps ordered?05:42
reedipyamamoto : the spec needs to be drafted first. Once it is, then the inputs from the Neutron Core would be required.05:43
reedipyamamoto : documentation and tests are important05:43
reedipyamamoto: lib and CLI are not at a high priority but good to have05:43
yamamotothe spec means something like "assessment foobar" ones?05:44
reedipyes yamamoto05:45
yamamotook thank you05:45
reedipsomething which is already in progress for VPNaaS05:45
reedipyou would know that :)05:45
yamamotoyes05:45
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reedip:D05:45
soichireedip: i will take a look it05:46
reedipsoichi : great, we can pitch in ...05:46
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reedipyamamoto : I dont have anything else to say...05:46
reedipsoichi, yamamoto : if you guys have anything to add, then great or else we can close the meeting quickly05:47
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soichinothing from me05:47
reedipyamamoto: ??05:48
yamamotonothing from me05:50
reedipso can I close this meeting ?05:50
soichiyes, i think so05:50
reedipI guess I can..05:50
reedipok soichi , yamamoto  : meet u guys next week :)05:51
reedip#endmeeting05:51
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soichibye05:51
reedipbye05:51
yamamotobye05:51
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca15:01
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rhochmuthAgenda for Wednesday April 5 2017 (15:00 UTC)15:02
rhochmuth1.Reviews15:02
rhochmuth1.BUG: https://review.openstack.org/45118815:02
rhochmuth2.BUG: https://review.openstack.org/45176415:02
rhochmuth2.Stories15:02
rhochmuth1.https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200096415:02
rhochmuth3.No Py3 for monasca-agent (like ever)15:02
rhochmuth1.supervisord works only with Py215:02
rhochmuth4.Lost&Forgotten - go through all of them and abandon15:02
rhochmuth1.Automation to handle such reviews ( ref: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tools/abandon_old_reviews.sh)15:02
rhochmuth2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344059/15:02
rhochmuth3.https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/monasca-agent+branch:master+topic:bp/add-windows-support15:02
rhochmuth4.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401308/15:02
rhochmuth5.In overall - a lot of old changes that are not WIP enlisted for monasca projects (see 1.1 for idea of handling that)15:02
rhochmuthwow, that is a long agenda15:02
rhochmuthwhat happened?15:02
kamil_motivated people?15:03
rhochmuthwhere?15:03
kamil_don't know... just asking15:03
rhochmuth#topic BUG: https://review.openstack.org/45118815:03
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rhochmuthso, i'll try and look at this more off-line, but it looks reasonable15:05
kamil_I think the owner of this topic is missing...15:05
rhochmuthi will try and +115:05
rhochmuthtomasz sent me email that he might not be here15:05
rhochmuthi think he just wanted to get some folks to review this and merge if possible15:06
rhochmuth#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451764/15:06
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rhochmuthi think this is similar15:06
rhochmuthi had looked at this earlier15:07
rhochmuthit looks good to me, but i'll take another look and +115:07
rhochmuth#topic https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200096415:07
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rhochmuthis there anyone to discuss this?15:08
kamil_i think the owner is still missing...15:08
rhochmuthwell, tomasz created the story based on a recent review that had been submitted15:09
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kamil_tomasz created the user story... unfortunately i have no idea about that15:09
rhochmuthby Johannes Grassler15:09
rhochmuthfrom i beleive suse15:09
rhochmuthseems like cleaning up the ip addresses in some of our example config files is what the story is  about15:10
rhochmuthi don't have any issues getting this resolved15:10
rhochmuth#topic No Py3 for monasca-agent (like ever)15:11
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rhochmuthsupervisord works only with py215:11
rhochmuthdoes anyone know the specific requirements around py3515:12
rhochmuthi guess i'm supposed to know this15:12
rhochmuthbut i don't15:12
witekconcerning supervisord or in general?15:13
rhochmuthis there a hard deadline that we are targeting15:13
rhochmuthin general15:13
witekit is openstack wide goal for pike15:13
witekwe should describe till next week the status of the project and actions which will be taken15:13
rhochmuthyeah, so does that mean we have to have all our repos passing py35?15:14
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rhochmuthto be in the pile release?15:14
rhochmuthpike15:14
rhochmuthis it a hard requirement or a goal15:14
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witeknot sure15:14
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shinya_kwbthttps://docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/#python-3-x-compatibility  is this requirements?15:15
shinya_kwbtsorry not requirements but may be useful for development.15:16
witek"If the goal does not apply to a project or the project has already met the goal, the PTL should explain why that is the case, instead of linking to planning artifacts."15:16
witek"If a goal is not completed, that information should be added, along with any references needed to track when that work will be completed."15:16
witekhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/15:17
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rhochmuthi'm not exactly sure, i'll need to investigate further to understand if it is required or not15:20
rhochmuthdoes "goal" imply required15:20
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rhochmuth#topic Lost&Forgotten - go through all of them and abandon15:21
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rhochmuththere are several reviews that are old15:21
witekRelease team is probably the right one to ask, I can ask if you want15:21
rhochmuthand just sitting around15:21
rhochmuththanks witek15:21
rhochmuththat would be great15:21
witekno problem15:22
rhochmuthso, does anyone in the meeting want to discuss abandonign old reviews15:23
rhochmuththat we don't plan on merging anytime soon15:24
shinya_kwbtHi this is mine https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344059/15:24
rhochmuthhi shinya_kwbt15:24
rhochmuthso, is this a review that we should abandon at this point?15:24
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shinya_kwbtSorry for my long abscent for meeting.15:24
rhochmuthnp15:24
rhochmuthglad to have you back15:25
shinya_kwbtthanks15:25
witekbtw, did you hear anything new from Yuan about Cassandra?15:25
shinya_kwbtCassandra will be deprecated, so I'm OK to abandon this patch.15:25
rhochmuthno, i haven't heard form yuan15:25
rhochmuthhe hasn't attended our meetings15:26
rhochmuthi thought the communication that we had in barcelona15:26
rhochmuthwas pretty clear about cassandra15:26
witekagree15:26
rhochmuthso, based on yuan has stated, i think he is on his own15:27
rhochmuthanyway, i could go through the list of reviews and make a first pass on one's to clean-up for review next week15:28
witekduring your spring break we have discussed removing Cassandra from repos15:28
rhochmuthand was that question resolved?15:28
witekand shortly afterwards he sent an email15:28
witekbut then silence again15:28
witekwe basicly agreed on removing15:29
rhochmuthi think the issue that i have is that partly based on his stated commitments to the project we launched an effort to do cassandra last fall15:29
witekwanted to wait for you actually :)15:29
rhochmuthwe had many discussions/meetings on that, for which yuan was invited15:29
jguis the reason to abandon cassandra developer resource based?15:30
rhochmuthi haven't seen any contributions from him or his team15:30
rhochmuthjgu: it is based mainly on performance compared to alternatives15:30
shinya_kwbtjgu: not good performance15:30
rhochmuthi also had a discussion with grafana labs on there cassandra implementation15:31
rhochmuthrecently15:31
rhochmuthlike last week15:31
rhochmuththey confirmed the cassandra performance issues15:31
rhochmuthhowever, they've been looking at an alternative to cassandra15:31
rhochmuthscyllaDB15:31
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rhochmuthwhich they believe delivers better performance15:32
jgucoool... is there a meeting notes or doc that you can refer me to regarding cassandra discussion.15:32
stevejimscassandra is the only backend with open-source ha currently15:32
stevejims(devils advocate)15:32
jguyou know we were still still asked to lok into cassandra as db replacement15:32
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rhochmuthi was trying to find the etherpad on the cassandra work15:34
rhochmuthbut misplaced my link to that15:34
jguwe can follow up after the meeting?15:34
rhochmuthsure15:35
jguthanks!15:35
rhochmuthanyway, regarding abandongin reviews, tomasz has two links15:35
witekhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_cassandra15:35
rhochmuththx witek15:37
rhochmuthwe coudl review reviews to abandon next week15:37
rhochmuth#topic Pike-1 milestone: April 1315:37
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witekI have mentioned that one already15:38
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witekthe second goal apart from py3 is WSGI support15:38
witekwe should sum up the project status and acknowledge the goals15:39
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witekfor WSGI we should be on the green side15:41
witekI will ask what can we do about Python 315:42
rhochmuthwitek: doesn't the pike-1 milestone seem early?15:42
rhochmuththanks witek15:42
rhochmuthso of the repos are passing python3515:43
witekI'm not sure15:43
rhochmuthsome of the repose15:43
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witekyes15:43
rhochmuthfor example, the monasca-persister is, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450583/15:43
rhochmuthmonasca-thresh is15:43
witekhaha15:43
rhochmuthit doesn't have any python15:43
rhochmuthmonasca-api isn't15:44
witeklog-api should be good as well15:44
rhochmuthyes, monasca-lot-api is passing15:44
rhochmuthmonasca-notificaiont isn't passing15:45
rhochmuthso, some areas to resolve15:45
witekthe biggest problem is probably with agent and supervisor15:46
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rhochmuthyeah, i agree15:46
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rhochmuth#topic https://review.openstack.org/45363915:48
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witekok, I'll follow up with release team and update the goals overview page15:48
rhochmuthlooks like this should be merged15:48
rhochmuththx witek15:48
rhochmuthi think it is pretty obvious right now i'm a little disconnected15:49
stevejimsthat's mine - just a little bug15:49
rhochmuthhave a lot going on15:49
rhochmuththx stevejims15:49
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rhochmuthi think that should get merged15:49
rhochmuthand you have another one up as of this mornign15:50
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stevejimsyeah15:50
stevejimshttps://review.openstack.org/45368215:50
rhochmuththx, seems like it should get merged15:51
rhochmuthi'll add my +115:51
stevejimsfound as a result of fixing the first15:51
stevejimsjenkins isn't happy but the tests failing are to do with notifications i think15:51
stevejimscouldn't see any i might have broke15:52
shinya_kwbtWhy don't you recheck test?15:53
rhochmuthi added it15:54
stevejimsi have seen the same failures on other reviews15:54
rhochmuthhopefully it will pass this time15:54
stevejims"description": "60 is not a valid period"15:54
stevejimsis the gist of it15:55
rhochmuthso i just looked at the monasca-api15:55
rhochmuthpy25 failures15:55
rhochmuthit looks like everything is due to xrange15:55
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rhochmuthso, that could be a trivial fix15:55
rhochmuthi'll look into it further15:55
rhochmuthif that is really the only problem remaining it shouldn't be hard to resolve15:55
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stevejimsok, thanks15:56
rhochmuthmonasca-notification is a little more involved, but there are only a few errors that we could resolve quickly15:56
rhochmuthNameError: name 'unichr' is not defined15:57
rhochmuthImportError: No module named 'Queue'15:57
rhochmuththat should be easy to fix-up too15:57
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rhochmuthok, i think that is the end of today's meeting15:58
rhochmutha few action items15:58
rhochmuthhopefully, will get resolved soon15:58
rhochmuthsee you all next week15:58
stevejimsthanks, bye15:58
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witekthank you, bye15:59
shinya_kwbtthanks bye15:59
jguthank you bye15:59
rhochmuth#endmeeting15:59
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eglute#startmeeting interopwg16:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 16:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'interopwg'16:01
markvoelkero/16:01
hogepodgehi16:01
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eglute#topic agenda16:01
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eglute#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.1816:01
egluteplease review and update!16:01
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eglute#chair hogepodge markvoelker16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker16:01
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mguineyo/16:02
egluteHello Everyone!16:02
eglute#topic Fix incorrect test case name16:02
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450346/16:02
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eglutewe discussed this a bit last week- catherineD can you explain the dilema here?16:03
catherineDsure16:03
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catherineDSo the test case name is wrong ... no Tempest can ever be able to run this test ...16:03
catherineDso for the approved guideline, an alias of the correct name is added.  For next, just replace the incorrect name with the correct one16:04
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rockygo/16:05
egluteshould we just correct the name rather than adding an alias, since it never worked in the first place?16:05
* markvoelker was away in Europe last week and is wondering if the concern is just not keeping the alias around...otherwise this looks pretty straightforward16:05
hogepodgeI don't think we can require a test that was never run on previous clouds16:06
catherineDyes the concern is if the alias is incorrect for any Tenpest version.  Should we keep it?16:06
hogepodgefollowing our flag guidance.16:06
catherineDhogepodge: ++16:06
hogepodgeSo we should add the correct name to next and flag in current, imo16:07
catherineDThat is the idea.  Ttotally agree with hogepodge:16:07
markvoelkerworks for me16:07
eglutehogepodge flag it or add an alias?16:07
hogepodgeeglute: flag it16:07
hogepodgeand fix in next16:07
egluteflag it and add an alias?16:08
hogepodgeno alias16:08
hogepodgewell, I guess it doesn't matter. Actually, flag it and fix the name16:08
eglutecatherineD does that work for you?16:08
hogepodgeno need to propogate an error. Flagging it makes it non-required.16:08
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rockyg++16:09
catherineDwork for me ... I will update the patch16:09
markvoelkerWell, there's no need to flag it here b/c it's not a required capability right?16:09
hogepodgeI will take a work item to add a gate check to make sure tests exist16:09
markvoelkerIt's advisory16:09
hogepodgeso this doesn't happen again16:09
* hogepodge clearly didn't read the patch16:10
egluteok, so just fix it in 2017.01?16:10
egluteno alias and no flag?16:10
catherineDI think we should flag it so we have hint in the future patch for reason of correction16:10
eglutecatherineD but since it is advisory, i dont think we flag advisory16:11
catherineDwe do have flag in the advisory section in the past for people who look forward for passing future guideline ( I am one of them)16:11
* eglute doesn't remember all the details16:12
markvoelkerYeah, typcially we used that for tests taht needed rewriting though I think16:12
* markvoelker looks16:12
markvoelkerTo me it feels like adding an alias in 2017.01 and correcting it in next fixes this, which is what the patch does16:13
luzCo/16:13
eglutei am ok with leaving the patch as is16:13
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* markvoelker +2's it as-is16:14
* luzC luzC +1 as-is16:15
eglutethanks everyone!16:15
egluteMoving on!16:15
eglute#topic 2017.08 guideline16:16
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egluteNova: is zhipeng around?16:16
egluteor whoever updated notes on nova?16:17
eglutehogepodge?16:17
markvoelkerhogepodge was just having a discussion about some Nova stuff over on #openstack-dev =)16:17
rockygI thin it might have been mreidmann16:17
hogepodgeI updated the notes16:17
egluteah nice, thank you16:17
rockygah.  thanks16:17
egluteanything else to add besides what is in the notes?16:18
hogepodgewe have azs in cinder but not in nova16:18
hogepodgethat should be fixed16:18
egluteok, so that means new capabilities for nova?16:19
hogepodgeyup16:19
hogepodgeadvisory, of course16:19
egluteof course16:19
hogepodgehis timing for reaching out to us is perfect. it's exactly the sort of feedback we want16:19
eglutesince zhipeng is not around, can someone else take a stab at adding them?16:20
hogepodgei have spare time next week16:20
hogepodgeand can do cinder then too16:20
eglutethank you hogepodge16:20
hogepodgetl;dr ive done no scoring yet :-(16:20
hogepodgebut I'm freed up on Friday afternoon for it16:21
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hogepodgeI'm behind16:21
eglutei think we are ok. just need to try and get new caps added before summit16:21
hogepodgedefinitely doable16:22
rockyglemme know if I can help.  Not great at proposing, but can review16:22
eglutethank you rockyg!16:22
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eglutemaybe hogepodge can lean on rockyg for some scoring16:23
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egluteSkipping cinder, and onto glance16:23
eglutemguiney has submitted a patch, thank!16:24
eglutethank you!16:24
rockygThat could work!16:24
eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451167/16:24
egluteif you havent reviewed it yet, please do so. basically, no new capabilities, just some comments on ones that score high bu are not added16:25
mguineyre the scoring of the two capabilities that have nof tests or are may not be expose/req. two users16:25
mguineyI was hoping to get some opinions on that point16:25
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egluteto me, the ones that score high but are not added to the guideline indicate a scoring problem. but i am not sure that this is a time to discuss it :)16:25
hogepodgemguiney: mriedem was just saying that he wants to write more tests, maybe you could ping him :-D16:26
mguineyawesome! I will do that!16:26
egluteso i think for those two capabilities, they would not be added regardless of tests.16:26
rockygYes!  yeah.  If we could list requirements for tests to verify interop, the tests could get written'16:26
mguineypinged16:27
eglutemore tests are good, but i dont think these two are a good example16:27
eglutenot for images-v2-share or images-v2-remove16:28
mguineyit appears that he was more interested in compute, anyways16:28
egluteso i think we are good with glance, unless someone else has more comments?16:28
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rockyg++  he is the nova ptl16:28
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mguineyawesome! no, nothing new there, other than that16:29
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hogepodgeI'm at a workshop right now, and need to drop off to participate.16:29
markvoelkerregarding requirements for tests rockyg: that sounds a lot like https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/interop_test_spec.rst unless you meant "a list of tests we need written/revamped"16:29
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hogepodgeI'll be back next week. Thanks everyone.16:30
markvoelker(which I'd propose we use storyboard to track)16:30
eglutethanks hogepodge16:30
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rockygthe list, with a few requirements probably listed in the spec ;)16:31
eglutei agree, lets use storyboard for tests that need writing16:31
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rockygmarkvoelker, sounds very good.16:31
* mguiney nods16:31
mguineysounds like a very useful way to track16:31
eglute#action everyone  come up with a list of tests that need writing and add them to storyboard16:32
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* markvoelker notes that we already have storyboard issues open for a couple of tests, too16:32
* eglute needs to go look at storyboard16:32
markvoelker#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/877 Storyboard16:32
eglutethank you markvoelker16:33
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eglutenext is neutron16:33
eglutemarkvoelker any updates?16:33
markvoelkerI am back from Deutschland and don't have to get on an aeroplane again for a whole 5 more days!16:34
markvoelkerJoking aside: that means I should get a preliminary patch up this week.16:34
markvoelkerTwo big things I want to think through on Neutron:16:34
markvoelker1.) Subnet pools.  I think the time has come and I see some evidence of wider adoption.16:34
markvoelker2.) Routers.  We've discussed this once or twice in the past and it's been languishing in advisory status for a while now.  Feels like time to either drop it or make it required.16:35
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markvoelkerI expect 2 to be more contentious. =)16:35
rockygyeah.  those are important.  but more for big sites16:35
eglutethanks markvoelker. will be interesting to see.16:36
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rockygcould we do a forum session with dev and ops on routers?  That could be really good to lay the groundwork for lots of netwrk stuff16:36
luzCmarkvoelker: how do you know if capability have a wider adoption... with refstack results?16:36
egluteI wonder if we have any data on how many clouds passed the advisory tests16:37
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markvoelkerluzC: the concern on that specific capability last time was around tool adoption.  I think I've found some spots where it's been added to various tools, so it's less of a concern now.  I don't have the list handy, but I'll put a note in the patch about it.16:37
catherineDeglute: mostly no... because people only test with passing in required test list16:37
markvoelkerluzC: see https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/scoring.txt#L107-L118 for context16:38
eglutecatherineD thats too bad16:38
luzCmarkvoelker thanks16:38
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* markvoelker yields the floor16:38
egluteif no more on neutron, we will look forward to the patch16:39
catherineDyea we would like people to test all API tess ..16:39
eglutecatherineD that would be nice... maybe we can discuss in boston how to get more of that16:40
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egluteMoving onto Swift.16:40
egluteI attempted to score it, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453453/16:40
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eglutei dont think there will be any new capabilities this time around16:40
eglutebut i still need to talk to PTL about it16:41
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* markvoelker notes that people are already encouraged to run all tests as per https://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/ ("We prefer that you run the complete set of non-admin API tests, however, Tempest can be run with a precompiled inventory of tests available from the RefStack server guidelines page.") but it's still not mandatory16:41
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eglutelets discuss making it mandatory in boston, what does everyone think?16:42
luzCeglute: +1 lets discuss it16:43
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mguiney+116:43
egluteI started adding topics, will move to own etherpad soon16:43
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egluteback to Swift! Please review patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453453/16:44
eglutelet me know if you have any comments16:44
catherineDyea that is one of the goal of RefStack ... collecting data16:44
luzCI have a general question, if a capability is already on the guideline as required... should it still  be scored?16:45
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eglutecatherineD +116:45
egluteluzC you can take a look at it and re-score it if you think it is needed16:46
markvoelkerluzC: I generally do rescore existing capabilities, though often they don't change.16:46
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luzCeglute: markvoelker: ok, thanks16:46
egluteMoving on! Keystone is next16:46
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markvoelkerluzC: the primary thing I look for is stuff where changes may cause a capability to drop out: for example, a major-version API deprecation or responsibility for a thing shifting to another project or something.16:47
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egluteluzC any updates on keystone?16:47
luzCyes, I have the capability list from PTL...16:47
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luzCprobably just one new capability - identity-v3-validate-token - but I need to check if there is test cases and if non-admin...16:48
egluteluzC great!16:48
luzCI'm submitting the patch later this week16:48
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rockygMark, sounds like it might be good to capture some of your wisdom on rescoring.16:48
eglutethank you luzC16:48
* catherineD BTW just want to let everyone know that luzC: is now RefStack core reviewer16:49
* markvoelker adds another thing to his list of stuff to write whilst flying around in aeroplanes16:49
egluteCongratulations luzC!!!16:49
rockygCon gratz luzC and thanks markvoelker !16:49
* eglute is happy that she is not flying as much as markvoelker 16:50
egluteanything else on keystone?16:50
luzCeglute, rockyg thank you, also thank you to catherineD for the nomination :)16:50
eglute:D16:50
luzCeglute no that's it16:51
eglutemoving on..16:51
eglute#topic Name change16:51
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eglutemarkvoelker any updates?16:51
markvoelkerThat patch seems to be just sitting in the infra queue with no attention, but I was away during the infra meeting again.  Sounds like I just need to go ping somebody on IRC.16:52
eglutethanks markvoelker16:52
eglute#topic New components/add-on programs16:53
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eglutemarkvoelker that was also waiting on you i think... any updates?16:53
rockygmarkvoelker, they were talking about doing a batch of repo changes over the past weekend.  Maybe it got postponed16:53
markvoelkerNothing new this week...hogepodge and I were both in Germany last week but didn't manage to sit down over a nice German beer and discuss, so I'll queue it up again this week.16:54
eglutethanks markvoelker!16:54
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eglutehope there is less flying in your future!16:55
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egluteexcept, of course, there is Boston Summit coming up16:55
eglute#topic Boston Summit Sessions16:55
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egluteplease add your sessions that were accepted, anything interop or refstack16:56
eglutewe will share it with the mailing list16:56
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egluteI also started etherpad for topics during our WG sessions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWGBostonSummit16:56
egluteI asked for 2 sessions back to back, hopefully the calendar will be updated to reflect that soon16:57
eglutebut please start updating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWGBostonSummit16:57
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eglutewith that, i think we are done. I have a conflict next week, so will rely on markvoelker and hogepodge to run this meeting16:58
egluteany last minute comments?16:58
egluteif none, thanks everyone!!16:59
eglute#endmeeting16:59
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mguineyhave a good day, y'all!16:59
rockygThanks!16:59
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catherineDbye!16:59
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robcresswell#startmeeting horizon20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 20:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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robcresswellHello everyone20:01
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ying_zuo:)20:01
robcresswell#topic Notices20:01
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robcresswellSo, we're closing in on the pike-1 milestone (13th April)20:02
robcresswellWe've made some good progress so far, I'm really pleased with how the cycle is going. You can check up on the current tracking at...20:02
robcresswell#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/pike-120:02
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robcresswellCurrently at 63 bugs fixed and 4 blueprints closed. We should be able to close another couple of those bps in the next week, too.20:03
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robcresswellWe'll also be bumping the Django version soon; there's a patch in requirements that I've -workflow'd until I can confirm Horizon still works fine with 1.920:04
robcresswell#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453482/20:05
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robcresswellFollowing that we'll bump to 1.10 and 1.11, with a few weeks in between for stability.20:05
robcresswellI think thats everything from me; any other notices?20:05
robcresswellThere's nothing on the agenda, so we can move to open discussion20:07
robcresswell#topic Open Discussion20:07
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david-lyleI just pushed the nova policy update20:07
david-lyleso that will be closed as well20:07
robcresswellAh excellent, thanks for that20:08
david-lylehad reviewed it earlier too, forgot to push :)20:08
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rdopieraI have been asked by our release people about release tags on python-horizon-tests-tempest20:09
robcresswellOhh, thats *was* you!20:09
robcresswellthat*20:09
rdopierabecause there was that patch there fixing pep8 on it20:09
robcresswellI mentioned it last week but we had no context20:09
rdopieraand they weren't sure how to release it20:09
robcresswellDo we even tag that lib?20:09
rdopierayeah, sorry, the time change made me miss last meeting -- I came an hour too early and left :(20:09
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david-lylerdopiera, same question as last week, is that based tempest-horizon?20:10
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david-lyle*based on20:10
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robcresswellrdopiera: -.-20:10
rdopieradavid-lyle: what do you mean by "that"?20:10
rdopierathey just wanted to package it and wondered how to version it20:11
david-lylepython-horizon-tests-tempest is nothing I know about20:11
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rdopieraah, right, that's our downstream name20:11
david-lyletempest-horizon is a repo with our tempest tests20:12
rdopierayes, that's tempest-horizon, sorry20:12
robcresswellThat answers the question :)20:12
david-lylenot worries, just trying to clarify20:12
rdopieraI forgot we like to rename things20:12
rdopieralike Horizon is python-django-horizon for some reason20:12
david-lylewe have not tagged it20:12
david-lylebut to follow tempest, tagging would make sense20:13
rdopieraright, the question is, do we want to?20:13
david-lyleI have no problem with tagging it20:14
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robcresswellYeah, we can do that20:14
robcresswellMakes no difference to me :)20:14
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rdopierathat would make the release peopel happy20:15
rdopierapeople20:15
david-lylesure, need to be able to track it somehow20:15
david-lyleI can go back and figure out where Ocata was cut and retroactively tag20:16
rdopieraI think there were no commits since20:17
david-lylethat should be the only release we care about?20:17
david-lylethere have been a few, I just checked20:17
rdopieraoops, sorry, didn't watch20:18
robcresswellrdopiera: Is there already a downstream release?20:19
david-lylehttps://github.com/openstack/tempest-horizon/commit/9d5bb7bde323653af2d0b849e8a1c120b47e2b84 should be the last ocata commit20:19
rdopierarobcresswell: yes, we have Release: 0.20170316112600.a3312bc%{?dist}20:20
rdopieraI guess that's a date and the git hash20:21
rdopierafrom tempest-horizon-0.0.1.dev13-0.20170316112600.a3312bc-a3312bcad15dc04e77fd114e0da0deff0db30336.tar.gz20:21
david-lyleMarch 16?20:21
rdopieraso this is what they do when there are no tags20:21
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rdopierathat's for Pike20:21
robcresswellThats the most recent commit20:22
david-lyleok, so do we need an ocata tag?20:22
david-lyleI think one per release? or ???20:22
rdopieraoh, so not released20:22
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rdopierasorry, I'm still not entirely familiar with our release stuff20:23
robcresswellrdopiera: I'm not sure what you're asking for, because the version there is the most recent upstream anyway20:23
robcresswellA retroactive tag seems useless now?20:23
david-lylewe can plan to tag pike20:23
rdopierarobcresswell: yeah, I'm asking about tagging it from now on20:23
robcresswellAh sure20:24
robcresswellYeah we can tag it for Pike20:24
robcresswellDoes that resolve that situation?20:24
rdopierathere is no situation, I just thought I would mention it, I'm fine either way20:25
rdopierathank you20:25
robcresswellHaha, sorry, "situation" was probably the wrong word20:25
robcresswellBut yeah, happy to tag at Pike to make downstream happy20:25
david-lylemore of an incident20:26
robcresswell:p20:26
rdopieradefect :P20:26
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robcresswellAnything else anyone would like to discuss?20:27
robcresswellI think we can call it there20:28
robcresswellrdopiera, btw, thanks for your help on the microversion patch20:28
robcresswellThat was really helpful20:29
robcresswellAnd great work everyone so far, please keep it at it, we're making great progress20:29
rdopierarobcresswell: cheers, I'm getting better at handling mox :P20:29
robcresswell\o/20:30
robcresswell#endmeeting20:30
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dansmith#startmeeting nova_cells21:00
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dansmithhoodat21:00
melwittahoy21:00
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dtphoo dee hoo21:00
mriedemo/21:00
dansmith#topic testing and boogs21:01
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dansmithmriedem: I'm sure you want to say something here21:01
mriedemnope21:01
mriedemwell,21:01
mriedembugs?21:01
dansmithbugs yeah21:01
mriedemyeah, we've got'em!21:01
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dansmithum21:01
melwittwe have a treasure trove of bugs21:01
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mriedemi'm back21:01
dansmithheh21:02
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/ and down21:02
mriedemfixes the quota double decrement and shelved offloaded local delete thing21:02
mriedemonce those are in i'll backport to ocata21:02
dansmithwoot, thanks for your work on those21:02
mriedemand then i'm going to start poking on cleaning up that turd21:02
dansmithonce those are merged, I'll make some more bugs21:02
mriedempeeling back the 'temporary' transitional stuff21:02
melwittme too, I'll make more bugs21:03
mriedemyou bastards21:03
dansmithheh21:03
melwitt;D21:03
dansmithso, I'll put this in testing since it kinda is:21:03
dansmithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/43609421:03
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dansmiththat's a successful run with multiple cells in devstack21:03
dansmithI asked sdague this morning to start reviewing the carnage in there so I can get the devstack part closer to acceptable21:04
dtpnice21:04
dansmithand I haven't done the actual fleet part of moving the conductors to the second node21:04
dansmithnot sure that would pass nova's full complement of tests, but it's something21:05
mriedemwell,21:05
mriedemdidn't we talk about some specific test scenarios there?21:05
mriedemwe have some notes from the ptg, i just don't have it in my head right now21:05
mriedemlike,21:05
mriedemlive migration with multiple cells21:05
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mriedemthe scheduler restricts that now though21:06
dansmithmriedem: well, we're going to need to make the live migration job run the cold migration tests21:06
dansmithto make sure we keep our coverage21:06
dansmithI guess I should dig into that this week21:06
mriedemthe normal dsvm multinode job runs cold migration21:06
mriedemvia resize i think21:06
dansmithright but once it is multicell it won't test actual moves21:06
mriedemhmm,21:07
dansmiththe thinking i had at ptg was to make the live migration job just one cell, and have it run the cold migration jobs too,21:07
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dansmithwhich will be our coverage of actually moving things21:07
mriedemso we always just have 2 computes right?21:07
dansmithand then once we are multicell on the main job, things won't actually move because the two computes will be in separate cells21:07
mriedemmaybe i was thinking with the fleet we grew a 3rd compute21:07
mriedembut that's a 3-node job21:07
mriedemwhich we're not doing21:07
mriedemb/c $$$21:07
dansmithright21:07
mriedemok i'm following now21:08
mriedemso,21:08
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mriedemmulticell on the main job == single-node dsvm?21:08
mriedemor dsvm multinode?21:08
mriedemb/c it has to be the latter right?21:08
dansmithjust the latter yeah21:08
mriedemsingle-node dsvm is just single cell21:08
dansmithwe'll never create another cell on the single job obviously21:09
mriedemyeah21:09
dansmiththen on the live migration job we'll force it to be single-cell even though it's two computes21:09
dansmithand then we'll keep our coverage21:09
mriedemthis just gets weird, because the multinode dsvm job you'd think you could run migrations between hosts21:09
mriedembut nope21:09
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mriedemwe'll probably need a treasure map at some point21:09
mriedemfor QA and infra21:09
dansmithyeah, well,21:09
dansmithwe could grow another multinode job just for this, but...$$$21:09
mriedemmaybe a devref doc on cells v2 testing permutations21:09
dansmithyeah21:10
mriedemi'm fine with the plan,21:10
mriedemwe just need to write it down publicly21:10
dansmithwell, once we have things up to make those changes and people are happy, writing it down would be fine21:10
dansmithyeah21:10
dansmithwe just need to make sure our devref doesn't get out of sync with infra21:10
dansmithwhich could easily happy21:10
dansmithhappen21:10
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dansmithand older releases will codify incorrect details about infra21:10
dansmithanyway21:10
dansmithanything else for testing/bugs?21:11
mriedemyeah branches..21:11
mriedemthat's going to get extra nasty21:11
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mriedembut we'll see21:11
dansmith#topic open reviews21:11
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dansmithgot plenty of these too21:11
dansmithprogress on my set has kinda stalled out,21:12
dansmithmelwitt has a thousand quotas ones open (thanks to me)21:12
dansmithmriedem has can't-stop-writing-specs-itus21:12
mriedemthe quota ones need work don't they?21:12
dansmiththey do21:12
mriedemi'm burned out on the specs bullshit21:12
dansmithoh good21:12
melwittI'm close to the end, I'm going through each seam and making sure unit tests pass, that sort of thing21:12
mriedemdtp has started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453025/21:12
dansmithmelwitt: excellent21:12
mriedemi -1ed immediately21:12
mriedemjust to be friendly21:13
dtpheh21:13
dansmithgood, keep that self esteem from getting out of control21:13
mriedemdtp and i will have to pow-wow on splitting up the api changes probably21:13
mriedemb/c it's 2 apis, a bunch of changes each, but a single microversion21:13
dansmithack21:13
melwittwhat could go wrong21:13
mriedemi'm thinking we'll work them as separate changes stacked, then collapse once they are ready21:13
dansmithyeah21:14
dansmithcould do the divorced parents thing and only have the kids every other day21:14
dansmithand fight over the holidays21:14
mriedemmaybe21:14
mriedemyou also have to cleanup your faster host mapping discovery series21:15
dansmithoh21:15
dansmithyeah I bet I do21:15
dansmiththat thing gets lost behind the cells one21:15
mriedemand the nova-status check for min compute21:15
dansmithI think I'm annoyed with (you on) that one and have been ignoring it21:15
mriedemi know21:15
dansmithhah21:15
mriedemi could feel it21:15
dansmiththat obvious?21:16
mriedemyes21:16
dansmithlol21:16
dansmithdamn21:16
dansmiththought I was sneaky-er than that21:16
melwitthah21:16
dansmithokay anything else here?21:16
mriedemnope21:16
dansmithI have to go get my mid-nova-gathering haircut when we're done here21:17
mriedemit's a bit early...21:17
mriedemyou're a month away21:17
dansmith#topic open discussion21:17
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dansmithyeah, but I'm hairy21:17
dansmithI mean I have to get the mid one so I can get another right before boston21:17
mriedemi think poofy is the word21:17
dtpdansmith thanks for writing this > http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/upgrades-in-nova-database-migrations/21:17
dtpit helped21:17
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dansmithdtp: heh cool21:18
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dansmithokay anything else?21:18
mriedemi'll poke on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439891/ before the kid gets home21:18
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dansmiththanks21:19
dansmithgoing twice...21:19
dansmith#endmeeting21:19
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