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Guest78699 | hi, facing issue in launching a VM into hyperv | 12:52 |
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Guest78699 | Can anyone help? | 12:58 |
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mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 13 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
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haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
mlavalle | Hi | 15:01 |
mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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mlavalle | This is the week of Pike-1 milestone | 15:02 |
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mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:02 |
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john-davidge | mlavalle: ping | 15:02 |
mlavalle | john-davidge: pong | 15:02 |
john-davidge | mlavalle: oops sorry, hadnt scrolled to the bottom of the window :) | 15:03 |
mlavalle | LOL, that's what I figured | 15:03 |
john-davidge | mlavalle: :D | 15:03 |
mlavalle | We are less than a month from the Boston Summit: | 15:03 |
john-davidge | mlavalle: I may be less attentive than usual today, in another internal meeting here right now | 15:03 |
mlavalle | May 8th to 11th | 15:03 |
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john-davidge | mlavalle: I will not be attending | 15:04 |
mlavalle | john-davidge: not a problem | 15:04 |
mlavalle | john-davidge: will miss you :-( | 15:04 |
mlavalle | we will split your beers between haleyb and me ;-) | 15:04 |
haleyb | mmm, beer :) | 15:05 |
john-davidge | mlavalle: Haha, as long as you don't send me the cheque | 15:05 |
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mlavalle | Any other announcements? | 15:05 |
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mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:07 |
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mlavalle | First up today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627424 | 15:07 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1627424 in neutron "FlushError on IPAllocation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:07 |
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mlavalle | thanks to haleyb for the review to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452501/ | 15:08 |
mlavalle | kevinbenton also reviewed it and asked a question. it is easy to answer, so I expect this to move ahead | 15:08 |
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mlavalle | I will take care of it later today | 15:09 |
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mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:10 |
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mlavalle | We got a response from johnbelamaric to the email I sent him last week | 15:10 |
mlavalle | shared it with haleyb | 15:10 |
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mlavalle | haleyb: I say let's have a conversation with kevinbenton in Boston as to what a real solution would look like | 15:11 |
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haleyb | mlavalle: sounds good | 15:12 |
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mlavalle | if we can come up with a good solution, I am willing to implement it | 15:12 |
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mlavalle | but before attempting anything, I would like to have a clear vision of where we want to get | 15:12 |
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mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509004 | 15:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1509004 in neutron ""test_dualnet_dhcp6_stateless_from_os" failures seen in the gate" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to James Anziano (janzian) | 15:14 |
mlavalle | So I spent time this morning looking at this one | 15:14 |
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mlavalle | Found 0 hits in Kibana over the past 7 days | 15:14 |
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mlavalle | which is consistent with what I found two weeks ago | 15:15 |
mlavalle | I even left a note in the bug | 15:15 |
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mlavalle | so I am going to keep an eye on it over the next few days and if I don't see it again, I'll close it | 15:15 |
mlavalle | any comments? | 15:16 |
mlavalle | Any other bugs from the team? | 15:17 |
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mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:17 |
mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:18 |
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mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667329 got approved during the last drivers meeting | 15:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1667329 in neutron "[RFE] Floating IP Subnets on Routed Provider Networks" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 15:19 |
mlavalle | and john-davidge is working on a spec | 15:19 |
mlavalle | anything else to comment here? | 15:20 |
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mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:20 |
mlavalle | #topic DNS | 15:20 |
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mlavalle | Also the drivers team approved https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1650678 | 15:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1650678 in neutron "[RFE] Allow specifying dns_domain when creating a port" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:21 |
mlavalle | I have started implementing it | 15:21 |
mlavalle | I will write a series of 3 or patches to make it easier to review | 15:21 |
mlavalle | I have started the first one and will push it soon | 15:21 |
mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:22 |
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mlavalle | Any other topics we shoud discuss today? | 15:22 |
haleyb | gate job update merged | 15:22 |
haleyb | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-ha-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv is now the default tempest multinode job | 15:23 |
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mlavalle | Thanks haleyb for letting us know | 15:23 |
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haleyb | I haven't looked at the grafana page to see how it's doing, but it was passing when i looked | 15:24 |
mlavalle | ++ | 15:24 |
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haleyb | sometimes i see a block migration test failure, but that's not related from what i can tell | 15:25 |
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haleyb | that's all i had | 15:26 |
mlavalle | Thanks you for the update | 15:26 |
mlavalle | ok team, thanks for attending | 15:27 |
mlavalle | Talk to you next week! | 15:27 |
mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 13 15:27:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-04-13-15.00.html | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-04-13-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-04-13-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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cdent | #startmeeting api_wg | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 13 16:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
elmiko | heyo/ | 16:00 |
edleafe | \o | 16:00 |
cdent | #chair cdent elmiko edleafe | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
cdent | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:00 |
* dtantsur lurks as he's in 2 more meetings | 16:00 | |
elmiko | oof | 16:00 |
cdent | #link last meeting notes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-04-06-16.00.html | 16:01 |
cdent | #topic old biz | 16:01 |
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cdent | elmiko to continue thinking about how to discuss and formulate what we do | 16:01 |
cdent | that appears to be on the agenda for the opens, so that's a good start | 16:01 |
cdent | elmiko and cdent to decide (with input from everyone) about how to do summit | 16:01 |
elmiko | score! | 16:01 |
* cdent looks at elmiko and shrinks | 16:02 | |
elmiko | i did think about it too, but that's more difficult to capture | 16:02 |
elmiko | without maybe a blog post /me looks at edleafe | 16:02 |
cdent | I don't reckon I did anything in that regard | 16:02 |
elmiko | for me it kinda breaks down into a couple issues | 16:02 |
edleafe | me neither | 16:02 |
elmiko | 1. staying true to the original intent | 16:02 |
elmiko | 2. growing the group | 16:02 |
edleafe | 3. free bagels | 16:03 |
elmiko | if we stick 1, then there is a clear end-line for the group | 16:03 |
elmiko | oh wait, i vote #3 | 16:03 |
elmiko | can we add that to our mission? | 16:03 |
edleafe | elmiko: Not unless we also add lox and cream cheese | 16:03 |
cdent | we have bagels here every week (real ones from new york), did you not know? | 16:04 |
elmiko | edleafe: you are so talking my language | 16:04 |
* elmiko wants bagels | 16:04 | |
cdent | I guess it is safe to say | 16:05 |
* edleafe gets serious again | 16:05 | |
cdent | #topic new biz and opens | 16:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "new biz and opens (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:05 | |
elmiko | anyways, bagel talk aside, i think the best way to discuss if we should grow or not, or expand the mission is probably best left for a face-to-face | 16:05 |
edleafe | We need to define the "original intent" clearly enough that it attracts new blood | 16:05 |
elmiko | or emails or something, it's a big topic to unpack | 16:05 |
elmiko | for me at least | 16:05 |
elmiko | edleafe: yeah, i'm not sure that's possible if it's just "guidelines" | 16:05 |
elmiko | otoh, keeping it the way it is gives the group a finite mission. which can also be desirable | 16:06 |
cdent | we could follow the time honoured tradition of pushing a review of the mission and chatting in gerrit but I'm not sure that would capture the full breadth and depth of things | 16:06 |
elmiko | yeah, i don't think it would | 16:06 |
edleafe | Let's have a meeting about that, but we might first need a pre-meeting to refine the topic | 16:06 |
cdent | for me the thing that start this was the assertion that guidelines were both the activity and the goal | 16:06 |
cdent | edleafe: please speak with my pa to set that up | 16:07 |
elmiko | lol | 16:07 |
edleafe | The guidelines are the means to reach the goal, which is a better API experience for consumers of OpenStack | 16:07 |
elmiko | that's a good way to put it | 16:08 |
cdent | after the amount of time and effort put into the interoperability guideline and the amount of questions it opened, I'm less concerned about any finite lifetime than I used to be. There's loads left to do. | 16:09 |
edleafe | Now we have to worry about *our* finite lifetimes | 16:10 |
elmiko | i guess what i'm driving at with that is the notion that the guidelines could eventually be mostly done | 16:10 |
cdent | 'xactly | 16:10 |
elmiko | haha | 16:10 |
cdent | elmiko: yeah, I no longer really think the guidelines are that close to done, and even if they were, going back to the oldest one and starting over again is a useful activity | 16:10 |
elmiko | like, i can envision a situation where we have most cases covered for openstack and *have* improved the api experience for consumers | 16:10 |
elmiko | cdent: fair | 16:10 |
cdent | on that front: we rarely talk to consumers, so until we do, we don't really know that much with any confidence | 16:11 |
elmiko | maybe there is a possibility for growth, community outreach to our "customers" as it were | 16:11 |
elmiko | although, is there another wg that does that? | 16:12 |
cdent | some people have recommended that we speak more and more often with the interop wg and product wg (and probaby others) | 16:12 |
edleafe | That sounds like a forum thing | 16:13 |
elmiko | i think that makes good sense when we consider the idea of improving the api for consumers | 16:13 |
cdent | yes and yes | 16:13 |
elmiko | but, it also makes me wonder what is our tool for improving the experience when we acknowledge that the guidelines are opt-in? | 16:14 |
* elmiko still wants to avoid becoming the api police | 16:14 | |
elmiko | i guess the tags will be helpful in this regard | 16:15 |
cdent | to some extent | 16:15 |
cdent | but if you put on this api-police hat, we might make progress more quickly | 16:16 |
* cdent gives elmiko a very nice hat | 16:16 | |
* edleafe wants a spiffy uniform to go with it | 16:16 | |
cdent | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU | 16:17 |
elmiko | LOL | 16:17 |
edleafe | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHVI5fAzWq0 | 16:18 |
cdent | So, perhaps the next step on this topic is for elmiko and I to speak to whomever is willing to chat while at forum, and get a feel for the lay of the land. | 16:18 |
elmiko | cdent: i'm good with that | 16:18 |
cdent | #action elmiko and cdent prepare to chat about the future at forum | 16:18 |
elmiko | edleafe: oh man, that link | 16:19 |
cdent | okay | 16:19 |
cdent | any other new biz or open discussion? anyone else here besides elmiko, edleafe and lurking dtantsur ? | 16:20 |
cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:21 |
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cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:21 |
cdent | #link pagination https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446716/ | 16:22 |
cdent | that currently has only one +1 so I guess it is difficult to call it ready | 16:22 |
* cdent quickly reviews it | 16:22 | |
edleafe | Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys to review that soon | 16:22 |
elmiko | ack, i'll take a look now | 16:22 |
cdent | #link interoperability https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421846/ | 16:24 |
cdent | only has one +1 as well, but has been through so many rounds now... | 16:24 |
cdent | dtantsur: did my cleanups satsify you enough? | 16:25 |
dtantsur | cdent, did not have a chance to check, sorry :( | 16:25 |
cdent | #link correct method for http tags https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451536/ | 16:25 |
dtantsur | ETOOMANYTHINGSTODO | 16:25 |
edleafe | I think that those rounds of butting heads has at least aired a lot of the important views on this | 16:25 |
cdent | that one looks definitely ready to freeze, so I will | 16:25 |
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elmiko | i love this addition, "These definitions assume that client code is written to follow the | 16:26 |
elmiko | standards of HTTP." | 16:26 |
cdent | thanks dtantsur | 16:26 |
edleafe | elmiko: yeah, that's just crazy talk | 16:27 |
elmiko | haha, right | 16:27 |
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cdent | were you still thinking about doing the other guideline spawned from the interoperatbility, edleafe ? | 16:35 |
cdent | elmiko: long road | 16:35 |
edleafe | cdent: yeah, I could | 16:36 |
edleafe | I'm about to leave for a long weekend though | 16:36 |
cdent | i don't think there's any rush is there? | 16:36 |
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edleafe | So as with the functional tests, remind me next week | 16:36 |
edleafe | The rush is my increasingly fleeting memory | 16:36 |
cdent | ya | 16:36 |
dtantsur | functional tests? | 16:36 |
cdent | #topic bug review | 16:36 |
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cdent | dtantsur: nova resource tracker stuff | 16:36 |
cdent | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg | 16:37 |
dtantsur | ah ok | 16:37 |
cdent | no new bugs | 16:37 |
cdent | dtantsur: because edleafe is getting on a bit in age, he needs help from others to remember things for him | 16:37 |
cdent | unfortunately he's chosen me and I think I'm pretty much as old as he is | 16:37 |
elmiko | ouch, savage! | 16:38 |
cdent | edleafe: maybe we should get dtantsur to remember? | 16:38 |
elmiko | could we add biting sarcasm to the mission statement? | 16:38 |
cdent | he's already said he's not got enough to do | 16:38 |
edleafe | Hey, cdent, get off my lawn! | 16:38 |
dtantsur | WUT? | 16:38 |
* dtantsur hides | 16:38 | |
elmiko | i feel like we could produce copious quantities | 16:38 |
cdent | possible because of all that aforementioned trust | 16:39 |
elmiko | haha, true dat | 16:39 |
cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:39 |
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dtantsur | api-wg: sarcasm as a service \o/ | 16:39 |
cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:39 |
elmiko | i can take it this week | 16:39 |
cdent | elmiko: woot | 16:39 |
cdent | dtantsur: saas is perfect | 16:39 |
elmiko | lol | 16:40 |
elmiko | can we get the logo designers to invite a "snarkhog" ? | 16:40 |
elmiko | s/invite/invent/ | 16:40 |
edleafe | People would pay to have SaaS *un*installed | 16:40 |
elmiko | LOL | 16:40 |
elmiko | oh man, i know what business i need to be in | 16:40 |
dtantsur | lol | 16:41 |
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elmiko | cdent: just to be clear, we are feezing pagination and interop? | 16:41 |
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elmiko | freezing.. sigh, /me needs the long weekend | 16:41 |
cdent | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451536/ | 16:41 |
elmiko | thanks | 16:41 |
cdent | next week I have an internal meeting that overlaps this one, so while I'll be here, somebody else probably ought to run it | 16:42 |
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elmiko | ok, i should be able to run it | 16:43 |
cdent | hurrah | 16:43 |
* cdent moves some links around on newsletter | 16:44 | |
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cdent | oh, question about future linkage on the newsletter. when we link in a published guideline do you think we should link to the review or the actually published thing at specs.openstack.org? | 16:47 |
edleafe | cdent: if it's the published one, then the s.o.o one would be best | 16:48 |
cdent | ✔ | 16:48 |
cdent | I don't think we've done that in the past, but I agree we should. | 16:48 |
elmiko | agreed | 16:48 |
edleafe | a review can always be superseded | 16:48 |
elmiko | tell me how that paragraph looks | 16:48 |
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cdent | #agreed when publishing links to published guidelines use specs.openstack.org | 16:49 |
elmiko | cdent: thanks for fixing the freeze links | 16:49 |
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cdent | paragraph looks good to me | 16:50 |
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elmiko | if edleafe has no objections, i'll ship it | 16:51 |
edleafe | None from me | 16:51 |
cdent | yeah, ship it | 16:51 |
elmiko | cool, thanks! | 16:51 |
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cdent | no, thank you | 16:52 |
cdent | anyone else have anything they'd like to say or report? or shall we call it a day? | 16:53 |
elmiko | nothing from me | 16:53 |
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cdent | thank you and goodnight | 16:53 |
cdent | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:53 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 13 16:53:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-04-13-16.00.html | 16:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-04-13-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-04-13-16.00.log.html | 16:53 |
elmiko | thanks cdent ! | 16:54 |
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cdent | bit laggy there meetbot, hope you're feeling okay | 16:54 |
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SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi | 18:00 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:00 |
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SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: hi | 18:00 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: FYI — I’ll have to jump off in about 20-25 mins | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: np at all, hopefully a very short one today | 18:01 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:01 |
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SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 13 18:01:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | still continuing with some of the pending items | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#April_13th.2C_March_30th.2C_23rd_2017 | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | last week we added a new tag for the mitaka and newton stable releases | 18:02 |
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SumitNaiksatam | the OpenStack stable/mitaka branches are being EoL’ed, but we have users for mitaka and we are actively maintaining this branch | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | so we wont eol stable/mitaka | 18:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | the QoS patch has been long pending and that is next in line to merge | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426436 | 18:04 |
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SumitNaiksatam | was looking for rkukura to check if he feels his comments have been addressed | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | other than that there are the NFP patches on review for a long time | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | but i dont think songole is here either | 18:06 |
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SumitNaiksatam | i didnt have much beyond this to discuss :-) | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: looks like we can call it wraps right away | 18:07 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:08 |
tbachman | :) | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks for joining | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:08 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np. See you next week! | 18:08 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 13 18:08:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:08 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-04-13-18.01.html | 18:08 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-04-13-18.01.txt | 18:08 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-04-13-18.01.log.html | 18:08 |
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SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: looking forward to it | 18:08 |
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