Wednesday, 2017-05-24

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soichi#startmeeting taas05:35
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soichi#tpoic Open Discussion05:35
soichi#topic Open Discussion05:35
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soichii'm waiting taas folks05:37
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soichii'd like to close (skip) today's meeting.05:45
soichithank you, bye05:46
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claudiub#startmeeting hyper-v13:02
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 13:02:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at
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claudiubso, I'll go through a few things we're currently doing at the moment13:03
claudiub#topic Windows Server 2016 Network Controller support13:04
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claudiubas you might know, Windows Server 2016 comes with a Network Controller, which has quite a few features.13:05
claudiubyou can more information about it in the blueprint:13:06
claudiubthere are primarely 2 parts to the implementation: the agent side, and the neutron mechanism driver side.13:06
claudiubthe agent side has been merged already13:06
claudiuband on mechanism driver for neutron is up for review, but we're running tempest first, so we make sure it integrates properly.13:07
claudiubhere's the list of patches related to the network controller:13:08
claudiubafter everything is merged, we're planning on adding python-hnvclient (a RESTful API wrapper for the Network Controller) into the Winstackers governance13:09
claudiubany questions?13:09
claudiubif not, moving on.13:09
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claudiub#topic os-win tempest plugin13:10
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claudiubsooo, this is something i've started working on. Tempest has a plugin system, which allows anyone to develop their own sets of tests without having to merged them into the tempest project itself.13:11
claudiubthe plugin implementation is fairly straight-forward and easy to use13:11
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claudiubwe're planning on adding tests for all, or at least most of the features we've merged into nova, and other projects. for example: tests for Hyper-V Generation 2 VMs, UEFI secure boot, shielded VMs, etc.13:13
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claudiub#topic nova Hyper-V SR-IOV support13:16
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claudiubwe're currently working on adding support for it in nova. Basically, the Hyper-V nova driver will report to nova available and assignable VFs, and they can be claimed via flavor extra_specs.13:17
claudiub#topic open discussion13:18
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claudiubthat's pretty much the main points of interest we're working on at the moment.13:19
claudiubany questions?13:19
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claudiubif not, we can end it here.13:20
claudiubthanks for joining, see you next week!13:21
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tobberydbergSo, who is here for the public cloud wg meeting?14:02
tobberydbergHi zhipeng_!14:02
zhipeng_Hey :)14:03
tobberydbergNice to see you all! Right now, it a tie in attendance wirth last meeting ;-)14:03
tobberydbergbut I'm sure we have some more people joining here14:04
seanhandleyhey folks o/14:04 record! =)14:04
tobberydberg#startmeeting publiccloud-wg14:05
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tobberydbergLets start the meeting and hope that more people joining in soon14:06
tobberydberg#topic Recap Boston Summit14:06
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tobberydbergFirst of all, big thanks to everyone doing a great job in promoting the group! We got a lot of attention, more that I could have hoped for!14:07
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seanhandleyReally awesome seeing so much interest and support14:08
tobberydbergAnd we see the result here today....meeting attendance record! ;-)14:08
yankcrimefwiw the two etherpads related to the sessions at boston are and
tobberydbergah, good!14:09
tobberydbergsame link twice =)14:10
tobberydbergthats the other one14:10
yankcrimeyeah sorry, copy paste fail14:10
yankcrimelike seanhandley i can't compute either14:11
tobberydbergSo, my thought here was to see if we have "unfinished business" from Boston that we need to take care of14:12
seanhandleyDon't forget to add yourself to the participants list on the Etherpad folks14:12
tobberydbergOne good thing decided/suggested at the summit was to send out recap on the mailing list from the meetings....which I will do today as a start of that14:14
tobberydberg#action tobberydbergwill send out meeting summary for todays meeting14:14
zhipeng_thx tobbias that'd be great14:15
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tobberydberghave someone been thinking more about "upstream friday"?14:16
seanhandleyYes tobberydberg14:17
tobberydbergif so, how was that received in the organization?14:17
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seanhandleyDataCentred is happy to commit one week per month upstream dev work. On the premise that one week continuous dev work lets you go deeper.14:18
seanhandleyso I've been spending time since Boston getting myself familiar with the code and brushing up on Python (it's been a while)14:18
tobberydbergThat is awesome!14:18
zhipeng_awesome !14:19
seanhandleyand we're happy to get another developer (Eugenia Grieff) working with the same arrangement after a couple of months14:19
seanhandley(that way I can more easily mentor her on the processes needed to commit code to the projects)14:19
tobberydbergI haven't got the opportunity yet myself to take that question to the next level due to some traveling, but will for sure14:19
zhipeng_but we need to settle down first about the common goal for a certain cycle14:20
zhipeng_I think we could start setting up our own repo :P14:20
seanhandleyzhipeng_: This is true. I've been looking at the features list we identified in Boston.14:20
tobberydbergReally nice to here seanhandley ... and fun for you as well =)14:20
seanhandleyYeah for sure :-)14:20
zhipeng_seanhandley we should start tagging which ones are solved and which ones needs work14:21
tobberydbergYep! zhipeng_ you are right!14:21
zhipeng_I could volunteer myself for that14:21
tobberydbergtaken! =)14:21
tobberydbergits important, abd I know you are in to that zhipeng_ so that would be really good!14:22
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tobberydbergso, add that as an action for you zhipeng_?14:23
zhipeng_yep no problem14:23
zhipeng_and i will let the team know as soon as i finnish it, hopefully next week14:23
tobberydbergsounds perfect14:24
tobberydberg#action zhipeng_ will setup repo for public cloud upstream dev14:25
tobberydberg(or, was that included in that?)14:26
seanhandley#link Missing Features for Public Cloud
zhipeng_oh not the repo tho, I mean for the feature list14:26
tobberydberg#action zhipeng_ will go over missing features list and tag what is done, planned for upcoming release, needs attention14:27
tobberydbergMore correct, right? =)14:27
zhipeng_:) yes14:27
tobberydbergThat would do a lot I believe14:28
tobberydbergSomething that you guys have on this topic?14:29
yankcrimethere's an action on all interested parties to review that list14:30
yankcrimeyou need to point that out when you send out the email recap of this meeting14:30
yankcrimeand then give people a deadline for responding14:30
yankcrimethat way zhipeng_ can take stock and prioritise14:30
tobberydberggood one!14:30
tobberydbergI'll do that for sure14:31
seanhandleyIs there anyone in attendance that hasn't added themselves to the participants section on ? So far I see only tobberydberg, zhipeng_, yankcrime and myself. Anyone else alive? :-)14:31
tobberydbergDon't think so =)14:32
tobberydbergWe will for sure need to keep working on getting people to these meetings14:33
tobberydbergI know time difference is a b... in this case14:33
zhipeng_we need to draft mnaser at least :P14:34
tobberydbergBut, I know there is more EU players that need to be here ?)14:34
tobberydbergThought I saw him online earlier14:34
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tobberydbergbut ok, just a thought14:34
zhipeng_who could we drag from OVH ?14:34
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tobberydbergLooking at the first meeting and then "Adam Kijak" did attend14:36
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tobberydbergcould it be that we should try to send out reminder to personal emails for earlier participants?14:36
seanhandleyHard to say14:37
seanhandleyPeople have lots of commitments :-)14:37
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zhipeng_i think we should14:37
seanhandleyI think encouraging people to hang out more in #openstack-publiccloud perhaps14:37
tobberydbergBut maybe emails on the lists just "disappears" ?14:37
zhipeng_seanhandley agree14:38
tobberydbergablsolutly...starting with myself in that case =)14:38
tobberydbergbut agree, lets start with thtat, and I'll include that in the summary email14:38
tobberydberg...especially when it comes to discussions, realeses, commits etc regarding the gap doc14:39
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tobberydberg...and all work around that... Help each other getting started with upstream14:39
zhipeng_yep :)14:40
tobberydberg40 min in....lets move on to next topic14:40
tobberydberg#topic Goals for Sydney Summit14:40
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tobberydbergWould be good to set the goals for the upcoming release14:41
zhipeng_I think one of the goals for us would be to come up with version 1.0 of a requirement report14:41
tobberydbergReachable goals to get started14:41
zhipeng_that documenting what we have done in Pike14:41
zhipeng_what we achieved on closing the gaps14:41
zhipeng_and what we thinks are still missing14:41
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tobberydbergso, end of this cycle, we summarize our work in a report?14:42
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tobberydberg...with the goal of closing the gap, implementing missing features14:42
zhipeng_yes that is what i think, basically paint a picture of what is a OpenStack public cloud14:43
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zhipeng_what we have, what we are missing14:43
tobberydbergsounds like a good finish for this release14:43
zhipeng_another thing is that maybe we could orgnise a public cloud wg meetup before Sydney Summit14:43
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zhipeng_Maybe have some photos, and provide something for the keynote :P14:44
seanhandleythat's a great idea zhipeng_14:44
zhipeng_but this is just me thinking loud14:44
tobberydbergwould ofcourse be awesome =)14:44
tobberydbergI wonder if we are able to do that until next summit14:44
seanhandleyEven if it's just meeting up for the afternoon/evening and talking14:45
zhipeng_there is linuxcon in Prague around Oct, we could piggyback on that event, if there is a consensus for the meetup14:45
tobberydbergyea, maybe14:45
yankcrimemight be an opportunity to colo a public cloud wg meetup around one of the openstack days14:45
zhipeng_ya that's also a choice14:45
tobberydbergor, piggyback on either OpenStack Days UK or Nordics?14:45
zhipeng_i mean ops meetup has turn out to be a big event14:46
yankcrimewe've (as in organisers of days uk) have talked about trying to incorporate something along those lines before14:46
tobberydberg+1 to that idea!14:46
yankcrimei know the ansible chaps had a meetup within the eu ops meetup last year14:46
zhipeng_yankcrime when will be the UK OpenStack Day ?14:46
yankcrimewe won't be at the mexico city meetup sadly14:46
yankcrime26th september zhipeng_14:46
tobberydbergwe won't either14:47
zhipeng_we won't either14:47
tobberydbergNordics is 20th and 21st of Oct....may be to close to Sydney14:47
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tobberydbergMaybe together with UK is better. For me it doesn't matter14:48
tobberydbergBut, I'll put this up on the etherpad as suggestion14:48
yankcrimei can look into making sure we have a room during the days uk event14:49
tobberydbergMore? We have a couple of suggestions on the last etherpad as well14:49
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tobberydbergBut, asking people to do that as homework until next meeting is good as well...coming up with goals suggestions14:50
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tobberydberggood yankcrime14:50
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tobberydbergWe talked to flanders about a thing that I really liked... Coupons that are like "€100 of OpenStack"14:52
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tobberydbergthat would work at any public OpenStack provider (that have signed up for it of course)14:52
zhipeng_tobberyberg plz also check the nordic days arrangement14:53
tobberydbergmore of a marketing thing, I know, but liked the idea14:53
tobberydbergzhipeng_: will do that for sure14:53
seanhandleythat's pretty cool tobberydberg14:53
seanhandleyworth following up14:53
tobberydbergThink so too. Could be for Summit in Germany if not before that14:54
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seanhandleyWe don't have a top up credit system but I'm sure we could just discount the total value from their bill14:55
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tobberydbergSo, doing some homework regarding goals until next meeting, and then focus on voting for goals, and when that is set, asking the user committee for acceptance as an official group?14:56
seanhandleysounds good tobberydberg14:56
seanhandleyGetting an idea of which features are the most important to us would be good14:56
tobberydbergWill be an implementation thing, or something that we all need to have to accomplish that14:56
seanhandleyI was planning to just dive into self service sign up but there's no reason that ought to come first14:57
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tobberydbergof cource that is a little bit up to each company as well14:57
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tobberydbergbut, to have a group prio would be nice14:58
seanhandleyWe're nearly out of time. That was a fast hour.14:58
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zhipeng_we went through a lot of things :P14:58
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tobberydbergzhipeng_: if you adjust gap document, please make room for "group prio" column as well!14:59
tobberydbergvery fast14:59
zhipeng_got it :)14:59
tobberydbergthank you all for today! publiccloug-channel is always open for discussions =)14:59
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seanhandleyCheers everyone - speak more soon o/15:00
tobberydbergsee you all (and some more) in 2 weeks for some goals determination!15:00
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kornicahi cbellucci ;-)15:01
rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'monasca'15:01
cbelluccihi kornica!15:01
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cbelluccihi everyone :)15:01
rhochmuthloops, a little late, was doing some email15:01
rhochmuthAgenda for Wednesday May 24 2017 (15:00 UTC)15:02
rhochmuth2.Review/Opinion needed15:02
rhochmuth3.InfluxDB patch upgrade [ + ]15:02
rhochmuth4.Reevaulating stevedore ?15:02
rhochmuth5.Reviews ?15:02
rhochmuth6.Should we use 'project' and deprecate using 'tenant' term?15:02
rhochmuth1.Keystone uses 'project' (v2 which was using 'tenant' was deprecated in Mitaka)15:02
rhochmuth2.But other services use the terms exchangeably and not consistently, e.g. nova15:02
rhochmuth7.Change Monasca meeting time:15:02
rhochmuth1.Can we meet an hour earlier?15:02
rhochmuthLot's of topics today15:02
witekshould we start with the last one?15:02
rhochmuthThat was mine15:03
rhochmuth#topic Change Monasca meeting time:15:03
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kamili am fine15:03
rhochmuthSo based on my meeting schedule and a request for a company that would like to be more involved in the meetings there was a request to move to one hour earlier15:03
kamilwith meeting one hour earlier15:03
kornicaI can adjust to majority, for me it is harder to jon the meetings anyway :/15:03
scsuggest time?15:03
rhochmuthWOuld that work for folks?15:04
witekI think US west coast is most affected15:04
rhochmuthDo we have anyone attending from West Coast?15:04
witek+1 from me15:04
sc+1 (I read)15:04
rhochmuthjgu: ?15:05
witekwe also have to check if there is an empty slot15:05
rhochmuthyeah, that might be problematic15:05
rhochmuthok, i'll take a look and see if there is an open openstack-meeting slot15:05
rhochmuththanks jgu15:05
kornicapubliccloud_wg is before monasca15:05
rhochmuthare u west coast15:05
jgurolland: yes I am west coast15:06
jgu7am is fine15:06
rhochmuththe early developer gets the bug15:06
rhochmuthok, i'll look into it and try and send out to openstack-dev for next week15:07
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kornicaok, that's mine15:08
kornicadetected today, really fresh15:08
witekthere is also another one, related:15:08
kornicaapart from what's written in the story there's pretty nothing much more to add15:08
kornicaoh..thx witek15:08
kornicayeah, but that one kind of duplicates, or the one I created duplicates yours15:09
kornicaboth comes from the very different APIs kafka-python library offers in different versions15:09
witekwould it be enough to use the legacy SimpleClient?15:10
kornicawell, I think it is used now15:10
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kornicaPyCharm pointed that to me as deprecated15:10
rbrndt__probably not, some basic philosophy changed in the newer versions15:10
kornicathis is pretty much the same story as we had with psutil15:10
rbrndt__it's a bit more complicated, but similar for sure15:11
kornicalittle complicated by the fact that monasca pipeline is baed on older kafka15:11
kornicaso we had to support both of 'em actually15:11
kornicajesus...should've gone sleep earlier...15:11
kornicawhat's your take on this ?15:12
rhochmuthso, the upstream openstack requires the newer kafka library15:13
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rhochmuthFrom an official stand-point we should support the newer library, but not necessarily the old library15:14
rhochmuthbut, simialr to psutil, we might want to support both15:14
scis it possible to update pipeline? I think supporting both version is nightmare15:14
witekwhat about monitoring Monasca itself?15:14
kornicaas I mentioned before monasca is based on kafka 0.9.x so we need to have older library support15:14
kornicaotherwise we don't get metrics from monasca's topics15:15
rhochmuthdidn't we copy everything into monasca-common and create our own fork15:15
rbrndt__yes, so that we could avoid using the new library15:15
kornicawe did, but I bet that it does not help for the core of the bug - newer library15:15
rhochmuthso, should the agent use monasca-common?15:16
rhochmuthdoes that help?15:17
kornicaextracted code works with older kafka brokers15:17
kornicawitek: can you take a look at priv from me ?15:17
rhochmuthi was hoping the older kafka worked with the newer brokers15:18
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rhochmuthmaybe i don't understand the problem, but if we converted to kafka plugin to use monasca-common and the old kafka library works with the latest kafka broker, would that work?15:20
witekrhochmuth: I think we could give it a try and add monasca-common requirement to monasca-agent15:20
rhochmuthok, that sounds reasonable15:20
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witeknot very elegant though15:21
rhochmuthrbrndt__: u still there?15:21
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rhochmuthi thought you were testing the latest kafka broker15:21
rbrndt__I found some claims online that the 0.9 client should be compatible with the 0.10 broker15:21
rhochmuththat is what i thought too15:21
rbrndt__I have partially confirmed that they work together, while testing something else. But I didn't check in detail that everything was correct15:21
kornicawe need just a chunk of funtionality to work to get offsets15:22
kornicahopefully that will work15:22
kornicaguess we'll see in future once we get a slot to work with this bug15:22
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rhochmuthmoving on then15:23
kornicaus, fujitsu, again...15:23
rhochmuththat is too much code to review for me15:23
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kornicawas hard to lower it down15:24
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kornicabut mostly that is deletion15:24
rhochmuththe review looks great to me15:24
rhochmuththanks for doing that15:24
rhochmutha lot of code is removed15:24
kornicawell, the osc-lib is the library that is meant for openstack clients15:25
rhochmuthi'll take a closer look, but based on comments, it looks like it is mostly ready to go15:25
witekall these changes are dependent, right?15:25
kornicatht topic story/2000995 provides unified handling of keystone communication15:26
kornicafor client little more but that was neccessary and couldn't really be avoided15:26
kornicathe topic new_client is follow up that puts dependent components on top of
kornicaI tried to make sure to connect all changes with Depends-On directive15:27
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witekright, we should try not to break devstack15:27
rhochmuththanks kornica15:28
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kornicaI can tell you that story/2000995 is the first one to go in, later we have intergration with newer client in agent and ui15:28 important note from using osc-lib15:29
kornica--timing (guess that's the flag)15:29
kornicatry it out, you'll get a set of times it took to actually process the command, keystone calls, API calls15:29
kornicaliked that so much I had to say it outloud :P15:29
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kornicaguess there's even support for osprofiler that Witek mentioned was discussed in Boston15:30
kornica+ all sorts of auth methods that keystone supports15:30
rhochmuthShould we move on?15:30
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kornicalet's skip topic new_client, we discussed that already15:31
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kornicaahm, actually bump to 1.1.5 was a test to see if everything still works15:31
kornicaI wanted to include Dirk's change first15:31
rhochmuthOh, didn't realize that15:32
rhochmuthIt is fine with me15:32
rhochmuthDirk changed the port numbers15:32
rhochmuthyou had asked a question about that15:32
rhochmuthbut no response15:32
kornicayeah, he did but that's non-invasive, plus seems correct from the POV that previously client (an outsider so to speak) was talking with admin API of keystone15:32
rhochmuthDo you want that change merged anyway?15:32
kornicalogically that seems a bit too much15:33
kornicaand public API (under 5000) is sufficient15:33
kornicawell, to be honest devstack/files/ is a bit redundant in the way that is explictly exports OS_ variables15:33
rhochmuthSo, we should merge Dirk's review15:33
kornicaI'd say so15:33
kornicaFYI: there's devstack/openrc file15:34
rhochmuthI just +1'd it15:34
kornicathat exports more variables and it is died up to devstack based deployment15:34
rhochmuthif you want to merge that would be great15:34
kornicaI'll take care of that15:34
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kornicaone way or another 1.1.5 will be at the end of the process available in upstream15:34
rhochmuthsounds good to me15:35
rhochmuthbtw, you had some reviews for influxdb relay15:35
rhochmuthor someone did15:35
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rhochmuthfound it, so i see that one isn't ready yet15:35
kornicawhich review exactly15:36
rhochmuthKoji had submitted it15:36
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kornicaah that one - yeah, a bit similar to
kornicathe point is to have better, more readable dimensions to clasiffy influxdb or nodes15:37
kornicabut in the Koji's change there's part of the code that is not unit-tested15:37
rhochmuthI +1'd
kornicathe extra arg15:37
kornicasince coverage is already low, I think putting focus on unit-tests is good approach and leaving uncovered lines not such a great idea in the same time15:38
rhochmuth#topic Reevaulating stevedore ?15:38
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rhochmuthmoving on again15:38
kornicaI think Joe pointed to me that you've been having a discussion around stevedore15:39
kornicaback in time, guess even before Fujitsu's joined monasca15:39
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rhochmuthi'm not aware of any discussions going now15:39
kornicawell now not, might be longer time ago15:39
rhochmuthbut yes, we had a difficult time with stevedore15:39
kornicahmm...that surprises me a lot15:39
rhochmuthso we used simport15:39
kornicaI've been playing a lot with it recently and it much more flexible alternative providing some nice abstraction layer on the process of loading the checks15:40
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kornica+ I see it prettty much everwyhere in openstack (at least where I look there's a stevedore)15:40
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kornicaseemed like a nice idea to propose that for monasca notification15:41
rhochmuthit is more flexible, i agree15:41
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rhochmuthbut, we had difficulties understanding what it was doing and where it was looking for modules to load, ...15:41
rhochmuthsimport was straight-forward15:42
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kornicaahm...virtualenv, system but in general entry-points under namespace you're interested in15:42
kornicawhich is again pretty verbose15:43
rhochmuthso, i think the issue was just basic understanding of stevedore and how to use it correctly and avoid the side-effects15:43
rhochmuthyeah, in the early days of monasca development, we weren't using virtualenvs yet15:43
rhochmuthi think our python knowledge might have been a little weak in that area15:43
kornicait can get from system as well....system is actually one big virtualenv15:43
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rhochmuthso, is there a reason to more from simport to stevedore15:44
rhochmuthi'm just wondering what the motivation is15:44
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rhochmuthother than it would be nice to be more compatible15:44
rhochmuthand it provides more features, although i'm not sure what feature i would use15:45
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kornicajust that, it was just a question - if monasca is happy with simport, there's no point in dragging this on15:45
rhochmuthi'm happy15:45
kornicaahm, there are different types of loaders and so on - but really that's off the scope of a meeting15:46
kornicawe can chat over mail if you're interested  though ;-)15:46
rhochmuth#topic reviews15:46
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rhochmuthhave we covered enough reviews?15:46
rhochmuthor are there others to look at15:46
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kornicamight be nice to mention what Dobek (my buddy) started to work on15:47
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rhochmuthok, i'll look at that one too15:47
rhochmuthi was going to mention that silence, inhibit and group have been combined into three reviews15:48
rhochmuthone for api, notificatino and client15:48
rhochmuthbut, we are in the process of changing things around a bit15:48
rhochmuthso, i would hold off another week15:48
kornicaguess Artur's been most active for now from our side in abandoned reviews15:48
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rhochmuth#topic Should we use 'project' and deprecate using 'tenant' term?15:50
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rhochmuthmy guess is that would break a lot of folks15:50
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witekthat's mine, wanted to ask for your opinion on that15:50
rhochmuthwell, we were in the process of adding MQL15:51
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rhochmuthwhich would have forced a v3 API15:51
rhochmuthif we did that, then i think we would be ok15:51
kornicawitek: might be nice to add this review as reference15:51
kornica*to mention15:51
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witekkornica: thanks15:52
kornicabasically I am for depreacting tenant_id mainly because, I guess it was Mitaka, that depreacated keystone v2 which used term tenant15:52
witekas rhochmuth mentioned, we would have to move to new API version15:53
rhochmuthi guess i like the API to be consistent with itself15:53
witek+1 for consistency15:54
kornicaI am really sure what consistency we have in mind :D15:54
kornica*not really sure15:54
witeknaming consistency15:54
rhochmuthso, we have tenant everywhere in the monasca api15:54
rhochmuthso, if we start using project, then that is inconsistent15:55
rhochmuthalthough it is consistent with keystone15:55
rhochmuthi'm not sure what other projects have done15:55
rhochmuthlike nova15:55
witeke.g. nova uses both term15:55
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rhochmuthbut i thoguht use of tenant was still done15:55
rhochmuthahhh, got it15:55
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kornicawitek: but in the front of APIs (I mean, is it like tenant and project are mentioned are possible parameters you can send to nova over HTTP)15:56
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kornicawell...that is...hmm...have no word :P15:56
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kornicamaybe, let's go with15:57
kornicabuddy, dude15:57
kornicaseems like it fits15:57
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witektenant:238 project:16215:58
kornicawitek, U gess tenant_id is mentioed once and that's response body15:59
rhochmuthi think we'll need to continue this discussion another time15:59
rhochmuthi'll look into another meeting time for next week15:59
rhochmuthbye everyone15:59
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eglute#startmeeting interopwg16:00
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eglute#topic agenda16:01
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egluteHello Everyone, please update/add to the agenda as needed16:01
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* eglute waves16:02
egluteanyone else here for interop meeting on this fine day?16:02
egluteglad to see luzC back :)16:02
mrhillsmanhey luzC!16:03
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luzChey glad to be back :)16:03
eglute#topic 2017.08 Guideline16:03
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eglutethanks everyone that helped with scoring16:03
eglutekeystone is the only outstanding patch left,16:03
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eglutethanks luzC and mguiney for working on it16:04
luzCI submitted a new patch a minute ago, it contain some changes to designated sections (to remove v2.0 api)...16:04
luzChad a couple of questions about the scoring16:05
eglutethank you luzC16:05
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eglutei see you added deprecated, but i think it also needs to be higher up16:05
eglutebut i need to do a full review after the meeting16:06
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luzCI noticed several public clouds are using keystone v3 api but not sure if that includes the capability validate token... I assume it include it hence I mark it as widely deployed16:06
egluteit still didnt seem to raise the score high enough?16:07
luzCno yet16:07
luzCbut for "play well with others" - "Discoverable" Capability being tested is Service Discoverable16:08
luzCI marked it as zero16:08
eglutegood notes though, good to have it as part of scoring16:08
luzCsince I didn't know how to verify that16:08
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egluteluzC there is api right16:09
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luzCeglute yes16:09
eglutethen i think that means it is discoverable16:09
eglutehogepodge correct me if i am wrong16:10
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egluteso if it can be found and is documented, i think it can be marked as 116:12
luzCif I changed that to 1 the score will change to 74* which I think is high, anyway we still need to wait for tempest test case available (mguiney thanks for the patch )16:13
egluteyeah, if still no test, then we cannot add it16:13
eglutebut might be worth changing it, and noting that no test, therefore wont add16:14
luzCI'll add a note16:14
eglutethank you luzC!16:14
egluteanything else on keystone?16:14
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eglutefor those that joined late, here is link to the agenda:
eglute#topic Add aliases for test_volumes_list16:14
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eglutethis been in -1 workflow for a while16:15
egluteit seems important...16:17
zhipeng_i've got another patch that also deals with the aliasing ...16:17
eglutezhipeng_ i think i have it on the agenda as well! is it same tests?16:17
zhipeng_i think there are overlaps16:17
egluteluzC thank you for reviewing this patch. any chance you could follow up with Ken'ichi Ohmichi on it?16:18
zhipeng_mine was even bigger ...16:18
eglutezhipeng_ yes, i have it on the agenda for today :)16:18
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luzCeglute yes16:19
eglutethank you luzC!!16:19
eglute#action luzC to follow up on
eglute#topic Create tools to increase ease of scoring16:20
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egluteeveryone, please review-- if no other comments, i will merge it this week16:20
eglutethank you mguiney :)16:21
mguineythank you all for taking a look!16:22
egluteif no other comments on this patch, we can move forward :)16:22
eglutetoday is a patchy day :D16:23
eglute#topic Add Aliases For VolumeV2 Test Cases Part 116:23
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eglutelooks like this one has tests that would have multiple aliases?16:23
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eglutefor a single tests?16:23
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zhipeng_yes I think it has the same goal with the test-volume-list patch16:24
zhipeng_or at least was brought up for the same reason16:24
zhipeng_that tempest adopt cinder v3 test cases16:24
zhipeng_the patch's purpose is to add aliases for the VolumeV2 test cases in the guideline16:25
zhipeng_but one of the major problem here is that, in reply yo luzC's review comment16:25
zhipeng_I found CI will report error if there is more than one alias16:25
zhipeng_luzC pointed out that there are previous aliases that should be maintained16:26
eglutei think our schema doesnt allow for multiple aliases16:26
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zhipeng_so if luzC could contact Ken'ichi to see if my patch could be a superset of his previous one16:27
zhipeng_then we could just work on this one16:27
eglutethat would work!16:27
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eglutebut i think we will still have issue of multiple aliases16:27
eglutewe can change the schema, but then refstack needs to coordinate as well16:28
zhipeng_and we need another patch to deal with all the volume-v3 related aliases16:28
zhipeng_yes, my current proposal is to remove the old ones, since they are also V2 and could not be found16:28
egluteso, just to be clear- same test changed names multiple times?16:30
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luzCI didn't know about the schema, I guess we could remove the old aliases16:30
eglutei wonder if you should update the schame16:31
luzCeglute yes, test cases changed names 2 times...16:31
eglutewe need updated schema then. anybody interested in updating schema?16:31
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luzCeglute yes, I can take a look16:32
egluteluzC that would be great.16:32
eglutethank you!16:32
eglutealso, can you coordinate with refstack?16:32
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eglute#action luzC to update schema and work with refstack on the change16:33
* eglute very happy luzC is back16:33
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eglutezhipengh[m] can you work with luzC and update the patch to contain two test names?16:35
* kgarloff agrees with eglute :-)16:35
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Rockyggood question16:36
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egluteany other comments on this patch?16:37
zhipeng_sorry was disconnected ...16:37
Rockygjust repeat the request :)16:37
eglutezhipeng_ no worries16:37
eglutezhipeng_ can you work with luzC and update the patch to contain two test names?16:38
zhipeng_eglute did we have a recommendation for the short term alias solution?16:38
zhipeng_yes I will work with her :)16:38
eglutezhipeng_ i think it depends how quickly we can get schema updated. is this currently stopping you from certifying?16:39
zhipeng_yes if we use the more updated tempest test suite16:39
zhipeng_then we willl hit with error16:39
eglutehow quickly do you need to certify?16:40
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zhipeng_i think before Sep should be fine :)16:42
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zhipeng_but like it to be done as fast as possible16:42
eglutezhipeng_ i think we can get this resolved before then for sure16:42
eglutei will work with luzC on the schema16:42
zhipeng_coz I'm not sure if other companies got urgent need16:42
zhipeng_great ! :)16:42
kgarloffzhipeng_: I think we do16:42
kgarloffsitting on old 16.01 feels so bad :-(16:43
egluteanything else on this patch?16:43
eglutei agree, we need to update16:43
egluteand fast16:44
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egluteok, thank you luzC and zhipeng_ for your work on this patch!16:45
eglute#topic Remove test_delete_active_server16:45
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eglutelooks like one of the tests is being removed, so json needs to be updated16:46
egluteif everyone could please review that patch, that would be great16:46
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eglute#topic Deprecate volume-v2/v3-attach-detach capability16:48
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zhipeng_i guess i'm waiting for matt to response to luzC's comment :)16:48
eglutezhipeng_ we can give him a few days :)16:49
luzCpatch looks good to me, just wanted to pick Matt's brain look into future cinder direction16:49
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kgarloffeglute: This is the one where nova calls the cinder interface internally but the test tests for the direct accessibility?16:50
egluteluzC i agree, i think based on the discussion we can deprecate it16:50
zhipeng_kgarloff yes16:50
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egluteany other comments on this patch?16:51
eglutei think once matt replies, it can go forward16:52
smcginnisI can comment.16:52
eglutethank you smcginnis16:52
smcginnisIt is really an internal call between nova and cinder16:52
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smcginnisSo it's not expected to be used by someone externally.16:52
smcginnisSo really they never should have been included.16:52
zhipeng_txh smcginnis16:53
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eglutesmcginnis if you could also comment on the patch, that would be helpful :)16:53
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smcginniseglute: Will do, thanks!16:53
eglutethanks smcginnis !16:53
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* kgarloff thanks smcginnis 16:53
eglute#topic Remove duplicated testcase test_get_private_image16:53
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eglutemore removed tests16:54
egluteif everyone could review and comment, that would be helpful!16:54
eglutethis one looks straightforward to me16:54
egluteany comments?16:55
eglute#topic Flagging Regarding Public Cloud Subnet16:55
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egluteany comments on this patch? only tests are being flagged, not capabilities16:57
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eglutethat capability has a lot of tests, so i think this is a reasonable request16:58
kgarloffmultiple subnets is unusual indeed16:58
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hogepodgekgarloff: it's necessary for mixing ipv4 and ipv6 apparently, which isn't unheard of17:00
egluteif everyone could comment on the patch, that would be helpful!17:00
kgarloffhogepodge: That sounds like a good reason17:00
kgarloffI was referring to multiple ipv4 subnets in one l2 net which cna be done, but is messy ...17:01
eglutemight be that a test needs re-writing?17:01
hogepodgeyeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense17:01
eglutethe name implies it only adds security groups to a port, which sounds like a good thing to test17:02
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kgarloffeglute: so we need the neutron tempest folks to clean up the test case to do what it suggests it does?17:03
eglutekgarloff perhaps17:03
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eglutei have not looked at the test itself17:04
egluteor we may need to find a new test that does what this one implies17:04
eglutekgarloff is this something you would have time to research?17:04
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egluteoh we are passed time17:04
hogepodgewe're over time17:04
eglutei am so sorry everyone17:04
eglutethanks everyone!!!17:05
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kgarloffeglute: I'll have a look - no promises, sorrz17:05
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eglutethanks kgarloff let me know17:05
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Rockygthanks all!  file a bug against the tes?17:05
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egluteRockyg yes, that might be an option!17:06
Rockygname doesnt match funtion being tested?17:06
eglutelets move to #openstack-interop17:06
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dansmithmriedem: melwitt: still here?17:10
mriedemgod finally17:10
dansmith#startmeeting nova_cells17:10
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dansmithsorry, I got sucked into something17:10
dansmith#topic bugs/testing17:10
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mriedemi have an (old) bug17:11
dansmithonce we get this patch in:
dansmithwe will be able to merge the devstack patch and be testing on multicell all the time17:11
dansmithso just FYI17:11
dansmithmriedem: your bug, go17:11
mriedemcrap too fast17:12
mriedemis the newton backport of the fix for defaulting cell0 connection name to nova_cell0 rather than nova_api_cell017:12
dansmithaye, cool17:12
mriedemi know i tried this back when we realized it was a problem and fixed it in ocata,17:12
mriedemgrenade job is failing, i'm not entirely sure why, but before i dig into this,17:12
mriedemi wanted to talk amongst friends if this is a good idea for stable/newton at this point17:13
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mriedemthe reason i revived it is i think people are hitting this,17:13
dansmithit only affects peoplethat haven't been through the process yet so I think it's okay?17:13
mriedemthey are doing this in newton and getting nova_api_cell0 and then that's going to cause issues when going to ocata, and we expect nova_cell017:13
mriedemdansmith: that was my justification as well17:13
dansmithI don't think that is an issue,17:14
melwittmeaning the ocata code looks for something named "nova_cell0" or?17:14
mriedemi thought either someone in irc or in ask.o.o hit issues with this b/c the db they created didn't match what simple_cell_setup created, and then nova-manage db sync failed17:14
dansmithbecause we look up cell0 in the database17:14
mriedemmelwitt: no i don't think so explicitly17:14
mriedembut our docs say things like nova_cell017:14
mriedemor 'main cell db name plus _cell0'17:14
mriedemso i think people are creating a nova_cell0 db,17:15
dansmithyeah, just being consistent is good,17:15
dansmithbut anyone that is set on newton is fine when they move to ocata I think17:15
mriedemrunning simple_cell_setup, which creates the wrong connection in the api db cell_mappings,17:15
mriedemrun nova-manage db sync, and that fails17:15
mriedemok so i can continue working on figuring out the grenade issue,17:15
melwittagreed being consistent would be good17:15
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mriedemif i sit on the can long enough we'll drop grenade in newton b/c mitaka is eol17:15
mriedembut with tony out of a job that's not going away it seems17:16
mriedemmaybe that's the answer to LTS, never hire tony17:16
mriedembut moving on17:16
melwittfyi, the nova/ cache stuff merged to ocata and newton for the increased db connections bug17:16
dansmithany other bugs/testing things?17:16
melwittthe backports17:16
dansmithanything else?17:17
mriedemoh it's in newton now,17:18
mriedemthat was why i needed to sort out this other thing,17:18
mriedembecause the special db creds fix is dependent on this cell0 naming fix,17:18
mriedemand i wanted to get those out in the same stable release17:18
mriedemif possible17:18
mriedembut i spent all morning in customer support17:19
mriedemso i'll do it this afternoon17:19
dansmithmoving on?17:19
dansmith#topic open reviews17:20
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dansmithI have those open I linked above17:20
dansmithmelwitt still has quotas stuff up17:20
dansmithmriedem: still some of the host api stuff remaining, right?17:20
mriedemi plan on getting back on the base quotas patch again17:20
mriedemyes, sec17:20
melwittyeah, I pushed the update to address mriedem's comments on the first patch, last night17:20
mriedem first two there17:21
mriedemVek has been on top of the rebases and +2s17:21
mriedemso i just need one of your two a-holes to +W tohse17:21
mriedem*you two a-holes17:21
mriedemnot your two17:21
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dansmith heh17:21
mriedemalthough that would be an interesting development17:21
dansmithmriedem: I have a tab open for those and will look when we're done here17:22
mriedemword to your mother17:23
dansmithanything else here?17:23
mriedemnot from me17:23
dansmith#topic open discussion17:23
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dansmithI got nothing (that I haven't already mentioned)17:24
mriedemmelwitt had a possible thing last night,17:24
mriedemabout creating servers in a group in separate cells,17:24
mriedemmaybe for anti-affinity,17:24
mriedemand then needing to iterate the cells to determine membership quota?17:24
dansmithwell, like anything else we have to traverse cells for I would think17:25
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melwittyeah, another way I thought of is if you created an instance in group A and then the cell it's in no longer has capacity, the second instance you boot into group A could go in another cell. point being, I just have to make sure the count for that goes across cells17:25
mriedemmy side thought on this, was it'd be good to know if we have any testing for this,17:26
melwittI was getting confused yesterday bc I forgot server groups are in the API DB, so I was thinking "how can I get all the groups" but that's not an issue bc API DB. so disaster averted17:26
mriedemi think we could contain a test for this within nova functional17:26
mriedemstubbing out multiple cells17:26
dansmithmelwitt: aye17:26
melwittmriedem: that's probably possible, though I dread doing it17:27
mriedemi'm assuming we have some kind of filter we could use for an internal test to say a host is all used up once a single instance is on it17:27
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mriedemso create two cells, one host per cell, and a group with 2 instances17:27
mriedembut yeah, easier said than done17:27
melwitthopefully it would be easy :P17:28
dansmithokay well, sounds like that's sorted, aside from tests17:28
dansmithanything else?17:29
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robcresswell#startmeeting horizon20:01
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robcresswellHey everyone!20:02
robcresswell#topic Notices20:02
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robcresswellCouple of quick announcements20:02
robcresswellI've put up patches to tag a stable release for both Newton and Ocata20:02
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robcresswellWhen those merge, the new versions of Horizon will be tagged and published. So please let your packagers/product teams know :)20:03
robcresswellThe next announcement is just a reminder about the Pike-2 milestone, which is on the 8th of June20:04
robcresswell~2 weeks. If you have big feature work you'd like merged in Pike, it really needs to be making good progress, with the first patches ideally merged before the second milestone.20:05
robcresswellWe feature freeze a week early to let the plugins align, and FFE's are unlikely to be granted.20:05
robcresswellThat's all from me for notices; any others before I move on to the agenda?20:06
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robcresswell#topic Overview Panel Improvements20:07
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robcresswellSo, I've been working on an overview rewrite for a little bit; firstly to address performance issues by loading data async, but also to fill out the data gathered in those views a little.20:08
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* robcresswell finds blueprint20:08
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robcresswellIt's still pretty rough right now, but if anyone has any ideas for information to show/APIs to use in the overviews, I'd really appreciate the input20:09
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robcresswellIt would be great to get some deployer/operator input on the type of information that would be useful/expected in an overview page.20:09
robcresswellOtherwise it'll very much be me making a best guess :)20:10
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robcresswellFeel free to pull the patch down if you're interested in seeing the general direction I'm taking with it. It's a little buggy though.20:11
robcresswellAny thoughts/questions?20:11
guglintend to rewrite all the overview page?20:11
robcresswellProject & Admin20:12
robcresswell#topic Open Discussion20:13
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robcresswellIf anyone has any general questions, bugs, blueprints, feel free to raise them :)20:13
jeremy_moffittfor  can we get a ruling on whether this is an appropriate change or not? (not right this second, but in general), there was some concern in one of the reviews that its too significant a change for the bug in question20:14
ducttape_is the quota rework dying?  seems like that plus the overview rework would be helpful20:14
e0nerobcresswell: hi. not a real question, but I would like to restore some abandoned patches which I'm going to finigh20:14
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robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: I think the original issue was around backporting it20:15
e0neif cores are ok to get these patches merged, please restore them. I'll rebase and update them20:15
robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: I'd like it fixed anyway, and backporting it can be solved separately. Maybe we won't end up backporting it.20:16
jeremy_moffittnot sure I understand that... do we need to be able to backport the change?20:16
robcresswellducttape_: Well, everyone who volunteered to do quota work immediately left :)20:16
robcresswellducttape_: I think amotoki has been doing some work20:16
jeremy_moffittah ok, sounds like maybe we're close to on the same page :) , think its stalled in the interim though since that concern was raised20:16
* ducttape_ has a sad for quotas20:17
robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: Yeah, I'd still like for it to get merged20:17
robcresswellJust needs someone to babysit it20:18
e0nelooks like quotas are painful in every project:(20:18
robcresswelle0ne: I'm not sure about a couple of those patches; I'll restore them, but I can't promise that I won't just -1 them in the future20:18
jeremy_moffittseparate issue, could use a review when time permits on either  or   ... we'll rebase whichever one isnt the first merged off of the one that is first merged (butchered the heck out of that sentence but think it makes sense)20:18
e0nerobcresswell: sure. feel free -1/-2 on them20:18
robcresswelle0ne: It looks like one of them has been re-uploaded by Vladislav Kuzmin ?20:19
ducttape_e0ne: quotas are extra painful in horizon.  horizon is where all the rainbow unicorn quotas get together and show off how inconsistent quotas are20:19
e0nerobcresswell: he'll abandon a new one20:19
e0nerobcresswell: both me and my coleages want to get some fixes landed20:19
robcresswelle0ne: All restored20:20
e0nerobcresswell: we're ok with restoring  current patches end refactor/re-wirte them if needed20:20
e0nerobcresswell: thanks a lot, Rob!20:20
vladiskuzrobcresswell: yes, I'll close my re-uploaded patch20:20
vladiskuzThanks Rob!20:20
e0neducttape_: it's a painful part of cinder too:(20:20
robcresswellI'll take a look again once they are moving. I don't like the sound of that horizon-memcached patch though; I'm reluctant to start mucking about with cache implementations. It tends to have weird side effects.20:21
e0nerobcresswell: +1 on caching issue20:21
robcresswellQuotas between nova/cinder are not so bad, but neutron only supports limits20:21
robcresswellWhich is annoying.20:21
* e0ne is not familiar with quotas in neutron20:22
robcresswelle0ne: Basically, they exist, but the API only exposes limits (how many you can use) not how many you have currently used.20:22
robcresswellso to calculate that, you have to each individual resource, request all the pages of items for that resource, and then count it.20:23
robcresswelli.e. its stupid.20:23
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robcresswellTo do that properly you're talking at least 8 API calls I think, and that assumes that all your resources fit on a single page :/20:24
robcresswellah well :)20:24
e0neoh s...20:25
e0nerobcresswell: btw, feel free to ping me if you need something from Cinder's API20:25
robcresswelle0ne: That's good to know, thanks20:25
ducttape_robcresswell - if you are spliting that stuff into their own tabs, maybe you could just graph what the apis are returning.... ui consistency be damned20:26
robcresswellducttape_: In the current patch, I actually display the pie charts for nova and cinder and just a Limits table for Neutron20:26
robcresswellBecause thats all the API gives. I think that may annoy ops though.20:27
robcresswellWorking around it is hacky and very slow.20:27
ducttape_works for me.  then people can go complain to neutron to fix their api20:27
e0neducttape_: it's a good plan, imo20:27
ducttape_the ui need not cover the mistakes of the underlying services20:28
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robcresswellThat's generally how I feel :)20:28
e0nebut users could not be happy if we drop neutron things from the overview page20:28
robcresswelle0ne: lol yup, welcome to Horizon20:28
e0nerobcresswell, ducttape_: sound like some misscommunication between API developers and consumers :(20:29
robcresswellI'll send out an email about it, I've been intending to20:30
robcresswellI've tried asking in the Neutron channel, but the only person who ever responds is amotoki, and he already works on Horizon :p20:31
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e0nein any case, horizon should be for users, not for developers, IMO. that's why we have to fix our APIs for better UX if needed20:31
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robcresswellI think I'll roll with just the limits, and see what people say20:32
robcresswellIts a toggle either way, so people can use the old view if they choose.20:32
robcresswellAny other questions or discussion points? Anything is fair game :)20:33
jeremy_moffittjust the see above about some more theme changes that could use a look :)  if you saw that nothing else here20:34
robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: Oh yeah, I missed those. Seen them now. They're on my list.20:35
jeremy_moffittthanks! I probably should've waited till the quota discussion was over20:36
robcresswellRight, I think we can call it there. Thanks for attending!20:37
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e0nethanks! see you next week20:38
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