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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair haleyb | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: haleyb mlavalle | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | Swami will not be attending today | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | swami pinged me earlier today. He won't make it to today's meeting | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 15:00 |
| haleyb | jinx | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
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| mlavalle | Pike 2 is almost here, June 5 - 9. | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | Less than 2 weeks from now | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | any other annoucements | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:03 |
| haleyb | not from me | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | ok..... | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: do you have dvr bugs to discuss today? | 15:04 |
| haleyb | there are no new bugs, let me look quickly at older ones | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | no, just the RFE/bug swami is working on for centralized | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | on the l3-dhcp-ipam side: | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1684682 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1684682 in neutron "DHCP namespace doesn't have IPv6 default route" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | I reviewed the patchset earlier this week | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | Nice! I enjoyed reviewing it | 15:07 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, thanks for that, i will ping kevinbenton for review | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1655567 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1655567 in neutron "DHCPv6 failures with "address already allocated in subnet" error" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | I made progress on this one | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I found it is a race condition between two requests | 15:09 |
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| haleyb | two requests asking for the same IP? | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | not exactly | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | first one attempts to create a dhcpv6-stateless subnet | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | the second one updates the dhcp port for this subnet and allocates an ip adress succesfully | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | so when the first one executes https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/ipam_pluggable_backend.py#L449 | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | it fails adding ip address to the DHCP port | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: so, should the DHCP agent request be trying to add an ip address to the port on a dhcpv6-stateless subnet? | 15:14 |
| haleyb | i was just looking at that code for another bug | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | isn't that an autoaddress that should be added by the method above^^^ | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:15 |
| haleyb | it requests a port on all subnets where dhcp is enabled | 15:15 |
| haleyb | so maybe there is a bug? | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | I am certain there is a bug | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | either the agent shouldn't be requesting the ip address in the second request | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | or the method above should skip dhcp ports | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | right? | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | since this is an autoaddress subnet, I lean towards the bug being in the agent (the second request) | 15:17 |
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| mlavalle | That is why we have the method above^^^ to allocate from autoaddress subnets | 15:18 |
| haleyb | i'm thinking the agent should be the one to request it | 15:18 |
| haleyb | in the ipv4 case it's the agent that does this | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | ok, in that case, we should refine this query https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/ipam_pluggable_backend.py#L461 | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | to exclude dhcp owned ports | 15:19 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: that's probably worth a try | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: ok, let's follow that path | 15:21 |
| haleyb | we probably haven't thought of something which the tests should shake out | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | here's the plan: 1) I will spend some time in kibana with other ocurrences of the bug, to make sure I see the same thing | 15:22 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: the other way is to have the agent look for the mode flags | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | and if the mode flag is dhcpv6-stateless, let the server take care of the address, right? | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | right, that might be more invasive and wouldn't cover other drivers that use the same logic as the linux one | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | but it is conceptually beter, IMO. since the subnet is dhcpv6-stateless, dhcp shouldn't be handing out addresses | 15:25 |
| haleyb | the linux driver should have tried to use an existing port, and only creates a new one if it doesn't exist, so guess that's the race | 15:25 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: for dhcpv6-stateless the driver will hand-out addresses, but instance must learn other info from the router advertisement | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | ah ok, that was my question above | 15:26 |
| haleyb | i should have a link, but the code is in setup_dhcp_port() | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | so, as I said, i'll confirm in kibana with other instances of the bug, to make sure I see the same thing | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | and then I will propose a fix | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | sounds like a plan? | 15:27 |
| haleyb | +1 | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | Last one I have today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1683227 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1683227 in neutron "test_connection_from_same_address_scope failed with: Cannot find device "qg-74372988-7f"" [High,Confirmed] | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | This one is still searching for an owner | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | if one doesn't show up, I'll take it next and give it some TLC | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:30 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks. i will try and look as well | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | take that as a no | 15:32 |
| haleyb | sorry, no more bugs | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | #topic DNS extension | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | I've been working on implementing https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1650678 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1650678 in neutron "[RFE] Allow specifying dns_domain when creating a port" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | I have already 3 patchsets in gerrit | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | and I just finished implementing the logic. I will push that patchset over the next few days | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | the logic is working fine | 15:34 |
| haleyb | :) i'll add myself if i haven't already | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | it doesn't break any current tests | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | I need to add tests for the new functionality, though | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: no need to review just yet. I'll let you know when the entire series is ready | 15:35 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ok, i just like getting gerrit emails :) | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: should we add this to the team's charter for Pike? | 15:36 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, think we can add if it's this far along already | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | ok, i'll do it | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:38 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i know you answered a few questions for hjensas | 15:39 |
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| haleyb | but i think he got some good answers from you and kevin | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I intend to follow up with him and I have the bug he filed in my radar screen | 15:39 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: great, thanks. i had asked him to add an agenda item if there were more questions, but think kevin answered them last night | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics? | 15:41 |
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| mlavalle | ok, have a nice rest of your week | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 15:44:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-25-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-25-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-25-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| cdent | edleafe: you start | 16:00 |
| elmiko | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 16:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| elmiko | ha | 16:00 |
| cdent | or elmiko | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| cdent | win | 16:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | #chair cdent edleafe | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | ok, how does this thing work again | 16:00 |
| * elmiko cracks fingers | 16:00 | |
| edleafe | sorry, was busy in -nova | 16:00 |
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| edleafe | s/was/am | 16:00 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| elmiko | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:01 | |
| elmiko | i think the main one was reading mordred's prs | 16:01 |
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| dtantsur | o/ | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | has everyone had a chance to read the prs starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405 | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405 | 16:03 |
| * mordred hopes everyone enjoys long novels | 16:03 | |
| cdent | new versions were just posted, so I'm not up to date with today | 16:03 |
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| mordred | cdent: mostly tiny changes from last versions | 16:03 |
| elmiko | on the whole they look good to me | 16:03 |
| cdent | 1% of very big is big | 16:03 |
| edleafe | yeah, I'm behind in my reading due to PyCon travel | 16:03 |
| mordred | cdent: I fixed a typo you pointed out and changed the URL suggetsed for service-types publication | 16:03 |
| elmiko | there were some minor questions, but it seems like a win for me | 16:04 |
| * dtantsur is half way through the novel | 16:04 | |
| mordred | dtantsur made a good suggestion on the first one based on the recent ironic thread, so I'm going to try to incorporate that today | 16:04 |
| elmiko | sweet, i think that was one of the main questions | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | cool | 16:04 |
| mordred | but I'll wait a bit to see if there are any other feedbacks on the stack so we can take care of them all in one pass | 16:04 |
| elmiko | mordred: +1 | 16:05 |
| mordred | also - related but not related - I pushed up a patch to system-config for the creation of a new mailing list for SDK authors and API consumers: | 16:06 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468046/ | 16:06 |
| elmiko | interesting... | 16:06 |
| mordred | this stems from the fact that David Flanders and I have an email chain going with a bunch of the SDK authors ... and maybe getting that intoa mailng list is better than private emails | 16:06 |
| cdent | that's a good idea | 16:06 |
| dtantsur | nice | 16:06 |
| cdent | i'm glad to see that "everyone has to be on os-dev or not at all" is finally dying | 16:07 |
| dtantsur | especially to cover less-known SDK authors | 16:07 |
| mordred | they're all, so far, excited about us reaching out and interested in working more closely | 16:07 |
| elmiko | huge +1 to get that activity on a list somewhere | 16:07 |
| mordred | dtantsur: ++ exactly | 16:07 |
| mordred | did anyone know there are 2 active java sdks? | 16:07 |
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| elmiko | i didn't | 16:07 |
| * dtantsur did not | 16:07 | |
| mordred | or that the php sdk is actuall pretty solid? | 16:07 |
| mordred | me either | 16:07 |
| * dtantsur is interested what kind of applications people create with the PHP SDK. hopefully, some additions to Nextcloud or something like that. | 16:08 | |
| cdent | mordred: I left a comment: the name of the list is no good | 16:08 |
| mordred | cdent: awesome | 16:09 |
| cdent | with that name the audience is huge, and that appears contrary to what you're going for | 16:09 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: I was on the SDK team at Rackspace years ago. The PHP SDK was pretty popular | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | interesting | 16:09 |
| elmiko | cdent: openstack-api-abusers? | 16:09 |
| mordred | dtantsur: I believe owncloud is using it as well | 16:09 |
| mordred | cdent: well - so definitely some help on name/description is needed here ... | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:10 |
| elmiko | i'm both scared and impressed about the php sdk | 16:10 |
| * cdent will think | 16:10 | |
| mordred | I think the target audience is "anyone interacting with the REST API directly rather than via an SDK - mostly relevant for SDK authors" | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | openstack-not-only-in-python@lists.o.o (though it will attract swift folks too) | 16:11 |
| mordred | or "SDK authors - but people with a deep interest in consuming the REST API directly may be interested" | 16:11 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: LOL yes! | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | some people consume API directly, they should be included too | 16:11 |
| mordred | maybe just openstack-sdk-authors? and if you're a power-REST consumer you can join too | 16:11 |
| cdent | i think that's reasonable | 16:12 |
| dtantsur | openstack-sdk-authors++ | 16:12 |
| cdent | if you consume the api raw, you are your own sdk-author | 16:12 |
| edleafe | if you write an app that consumes the API directly, you're writing an SDK with a user count of 1 | 16:12 |
| cdent | jinx | 16:12 |
| cdent | ish | 16:12 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:12 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:12 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:12 |
| elmiko | openstack-sdk-authors seems reasonable to send up the flag pole | 16:12 |
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| elmiko | ok, moving along | 16:13 |
| elmiko | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:13 |
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| elmiko | i think we just talked about mordred's changes, anything more on that? | 16:14 |
| cdent | more reviewing to happen, but seems we are getting close | 16:14 |
| cdent | so | 16:14 |
| cdent | yay | 16:14 |
| elmiko | #action everyone re-review mordred's changes begining with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405 | 16:14 |
| elmiko | #undo | 16:14 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action everyone re-review mordred's changes begining with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405 | 16:14 |
| elmiko | #action everyone re-review mordred's changes beginning with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405 | 16:14 |
| mordred | thank you all again for reviewing such long and involved things. I really appreciate it and recognize just how much content it is | 16:15 |
| elmiko | no no, thanks to you. that's a boat load of work =) | 16:15 |
| elmiko | is there any other new business folks would like to bring up? | 16:15 |
| cdent | are people aware of the request-id changes that sdague has in progress? | 16:16 |
| * dtantsur is not | 16:16 | |
| elmiko | neither am i | 16:16 |
| edleafe | vaguely | 16:16 |
| elmiko | i assume this is a result of the logging discussions from summit? | 16:16 |
| sdague | ttps://gist.github.com/sdague/eb91caee9ce27c4d0ae913e5743b4416 | 16:16 |
| cdent | it's going to make it possible and easy to pass a request id from one service to another so that logs have both a global and local request id | 16:16 |
| elmiko | neat | 16:16 |
| cdent | thanks sdague | 16:16 |
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| elmiko | ++ | 16:17 |
| sdague | also http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117367.html | 16:17 |
| mordred | sdague: this might be off topic - or not relevant ... | 16:18 |
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| sdague | mordred: go for it | 16:18 |
| mordred | sdague: but in putting that together did you happen to look at the opentracing/openzipkin work out there? | 16:18 |
| sdague | no | 16:18 |
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| mordred | it seems very close at least problem-space-wise - but it's also possible that impl details make it irrelevant | 16:19 |
| sdague | there is already osprofiler if you are going that deep | 16:19 |
| sdague | this is litterally make grep and ELK work | 16:19 |
| mordred | totally | 16:19 |
| mordred | I was mostly thinking on the terminology/concepts front - not code | 16:20 |
| sdague | sure | 16:20 |
| mordred | but like I said - maybe not relevant - just wanted t bring it up in case it was | 16:20 |
| sdague | well, the ship has sailed on all of those parts as it's half landed | 16:20 |
| mordred | kk | 16:20 |
| sdague | the oslo infrastructure is done, it's just consumption, which is a bunch of small patches | 16:20 |
| cdent | what's been done is really nicely simple and hugely valuable | 16:20 |
| mordred | sweet | 16:21 |
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| cdent | elmiko, edleafe: i have to go, let me know if I end up needing to do something | 16:22 |
| sdague | it's all mostly a project management task actually, which is why I've got the big list of steps | 16:22 |
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| elmiko | anymore on this ? | 16:23 |
| elmiko | ok, then | 16:24 |
| elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:24 | |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:24 |
| elmiko | i think the only new stuff are mordred's changes | 16:24 |
| elmiko | is there anything else we need to address? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | not from me | 16:25 |
| elmiko | #topic bug review | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:25 | |
| elmiko | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg | 16:25 |
| elmiko | doesn't seem like anything new there either | 16:26 |
| elmiko | we should probably do a triage at some point | 16:26 |
| elmiko | if there is nothing else, i guess we'll move on to the wrap | 16:27 |
| elmiko | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:27 | |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:27 |
| elmiko | edleafe: are you still available for the newsletter? | 16:28 |
| edleafe | I'm running out for a couple of hours. If it can wait, I'll do it when I return | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i can do it, i'll ping on -sdks when i've got it ready | 16:29 |
| edleafe | great. I won't be able to review it for a while (see above) :) | 16:29 |
| elmiko | np | 16:29 |
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| elmiko | last call... | 16:30 |
| elmiko | thanks everyone for attending! | 16:30 |
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| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 16:30:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-25-16.00.html | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-25-16.00.txt | 16:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-25-16.00.log.html | 16:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman annak: hi | 18:00 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 18:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#May_25th.2C_18th_2017 | 18:01 |
| annak | hi! | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we are still dealing with the issues from last week (at least i am) | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic IP v4, v6 dual-stack support | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IP v4, v6 dual-stack support (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459823/ | 18:01 |
| tbachman | :| | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: :-) thanks for continuing to work on this | 18:02 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: there’s at least one fix to make to that patch | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: oh | 18:02 |
| tbachman | I need to change the defaults to use SLAAC | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah okay | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thats the neutron default? | 18:02 |
| tbachman | I can resubmit that, but I was hoping to be further along than I am with functional/integration testing | 18:02 |
| tbachman | Alas no | 18:03 |
| rkukura | tbachman: Should that be configurable in GBP? | 18:03 |
| tbachman | rkukura: good question | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: good point | 18:03 |
| tbachman | we could add a config option | 18:03 |
| tbachman | but I worry about endless config | 18:03 |
| rkukura | This seems similate to default_prefix_len, etc. | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: only for those who need it | 18:03 |
| tbachman | true | 18:03 |
| tbachman | it’s easily added | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: is it the neutron default? | 18:04 |
| tbachman | I don’t believe so | 18:04 |
| tbachman | I believe the neutron default is none | 18:04 |
| * tbachman goes to check | 18:04 | |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: are you good with the patch otherwise? | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: how about you, in case you got a chance to look at the lastest patchset? | 18:06 |
| rkukura | yes, although I want to take a quick look at the changes since the last version I reviewed | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure | 18:07 |
| annak | SumitNaiksatam: not the latest, but it looked good. I'll look at latest | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: thanks | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | given that we are heading into the long weekend, i would hope that we can attempt to merge this sooner than later | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we have to merge the backports as well | 18:08 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:08 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I have 4 or 5 of those to do to stable/mitaka | 18:08 |
| tbachman | I can’t find reference, but I’m pretty sure the default is None | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you can expect some maintenance activity and downtime over the weekend | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, we will come to that in a min | 18:09 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I also noticed that igordcard’s QoS patch wasn’t backported. Is that b/c it’s a new feature? | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: np | 18:09 |
| tbachman | Or should that be backported as well? | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: we decided that we will not backport the QoS patch to newton | 18:09 |
| tbachman | k | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it will be available starting Ocata | 18:09 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: got it. thx | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | actually we attempted to backport | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but ran into some issues, and decided it was best to leave it out | 18:10 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: got it | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if someone has a real need for this in mitaka, we can definitely reconsider the decision | 18:10 |
| tbachman | rkukura: SumitNaiksatam: should I add a config var for IPv6 RA mode, etc. for GBP? | 18:10 |
| rkukura | tbachman: both ra_mode and address_mode? | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi | 18:11 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: hello | 18:11 |
| tbachman | rkukura: ack | 18:11 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: since songole is here, we could talk about the policy ip_pool | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: these will be used as defaults for implicit creation, right? | 18:11 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:11 |
| tbachman | my thinking is that our default would be SLAAC | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: you mean proxy ip_pool | 18:11 |
| tbachman | unless we want our defaults to be the neutron defaults | 18:12 |
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| tbachman | (with “our” meaning GBP) | 18:12 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack on proxy ip_pool | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah, i wanted to dig a little more on that | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: why SLAAC? | 18:12 |
| tbachman | It seems to be a preferred mode, from what I can tell | 18:12 |
| tbachman | but it doesn’t have to be | 18:12 |
| tbachman | it may make more sense for our default to be the same as neutron's | 18:12 |
| rkukura | tbachman: Are the neutron defaults usable for IPv6, or its it always necessary to specify something? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah thats what i wanted to clarify | 18:13 |
| tbachman | rkukura: define usable ;) | 18:13 |
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| tbachman | I think their defaults mean that neutron doesn’t take any responsibility for that behavior | 18:13 |
| rkukura | tbachman: You create an IPv6 subnet, attach it to a router, and you get connectivity over IPv6 | 18:13 |
| tbachman | the documentation actually does a good job of explaining this, if I remember correctly | 18:13 |
| tbachman | let me go find that link | 18:13 |
| tbachman | This link has a helpful table: | 18:14 |
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| tbachman | #link https://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/adv-config-ipv6.html <== this link has a helpful table | 18:15 |
| rkukura | My argument would be that the GBP defaults used in implicit workflows should result in usable IPv6 connectivity when ip_version == 46 or 6 | 18:15 |
| tbachman | note the first entry in the table | 18:15 |
| tbachman | “Backwards compatibility with pre-Juno IPv6 behavior.” | 18:15 |
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| tbachman | This is the part titled “ipv6_ra_mode and ipv6_address_mode combinations" | 18:15 |
| rkukura | N/SN/SOffNot DefinedBackwards compatibility with pre-Juno IPv6 behavior. | 18:15 |
| rkukura | Looks like the defaults are for backwards compatibility rather than usability | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agree, assuming neutron is not usable without that configuration | 18:16 |
| tbachman | rkukura: ack on the backwards-compatibility | 18:16 |
| tbachman | there’s also SLAAC from an openstack router, and SLAAC form a non-openstack router | 18:17 |
| tbachman | but I’ve found that openstack doesn’t let you attach subnets to a router if you’ve elected SLAAC from a non-openstack router | 18:17 |
| tbachman | so, I’d say it should be the SLAAC from an openstack router :) | 18:17 |
| tbachman | (note: that’s for internal interfaces, and not the gateway) | 18:18 |
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| rkukura | tbachman: agree | 18:18 |
| rkukura | but with pure-SLAAC, VMs don’t get a default gateway, right? | 18:18 |
| tbachman | also note that most of these are “not implemented” by the reference implementation | 18:19 |
| tbachman | SLAAC is just for address assignemnt | 18:19 |
| tbachman | the router advertisements provide the default GW | 18:19 |
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| rkukura | So dhcpv6-stateless is what uses SLAAC and has RAs for the GW, right? | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: rkukura: i still think the defaults should be what neutron does, a specific driver can override the defaults | 18:20 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I could go along with that, as long as its configurable for the deployment | 18:20 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I’m fine with that. I’ll amend my patch to include these config vars | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and by driver, i mean the GBP policy driver | 18:20 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: should these be provided in the resource mapping driver then? | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, we can follow up on this discusion on the gerrit review | 18:21 |
| rkukura | Do we need config at the PD level? What do we do for default_prefix_len? | 18:21 |
| tbachman | For IPv6, we’ve agreed it’s 64 | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i meant the PD can override it | 18:21 |
| rkukura | tbachman: I meant for IPv4 | 18:22 |
| tbachman | ah — that’s part of the L3 config now, right? | 18:22 |
| rkukura | I think its best of these sorts of config variables all work similarly | 18:22 |
| tbachman | hmmm | 18:22 |
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| tbachman | rkukura: are you referring to implicit workflow (i.e. where L3P is created implicitly)? | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: default_prefix_len is part of GBP API | 18:23 |
| rkukura | Both implicit L3P creation, and explicit where the value is not passed | 18:23 |
| rkukura | I guess the explicit creation uses API default values | 18:24 |
| tbachman | rkukura: your point is just that the defaults should all be consistent then, right? | 18:24 |
| rkukura | So do these need to be added as L3P API attributes? | 18:24 |
| tbachman | (and if so, I should double-check that’s the case) | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i was hoping you would not bring that up! :-( | 18:25 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:25 |
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| rkukura | My point is more about how a deployment sets defaults (via config) and how a user overrides those defaults than about whether the specific values are consistent between Neutron and GBP | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | well without representation in the API there is no way the user can override it | 18:26 |
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| tbachman | but — we don’t provide all the information about subnets when we create an L3P | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the only way to override it is to create a neutron object with those overrides and associate it with a GBP object (i am glossing over the defails here) | 18:27 |
| tbachman | for example, default GW | 18:27 |
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| tbachman | I guess it’s a question of whether this level of detail is warranted in the API | 18:28 |
| tbachman | during L3P creation | 18:28 |
| rkukura | right | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: true, in such cases, where neutron models that detail, we expect the neutron object to be creted directly | 18:28 |
| tbachman | and is this something someone would want to change during deployment, w/o having to restart neutron | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and then be assocaited with the relevant GBP resource | 18:28 |
| tbachman | I would think this would be consistent across a deployment | 18:29 |
| tbachman | (meaning the same mode is used throughout) | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: good point | 18:29 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: but with L3P’s, we still create the subnets, even if the user just provided a prefix | 18:29 |
| tbachman | and we don’t create them during L3P creation | 18:30 |
| tbachman | I can see an argument for exposing this | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: the resource_mapping driver would allow you to associate subnets with a PTG | 18:30 |
| tbachman | b/c it’s kind of a “mode” for deployment | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and you can create the subnets in Neutron the way you want it | 18:31 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: true | 18:31 |
| tbachman | but in our subnetpools model, we have no way of providing this | 18:31 |
| tbachman | it’s only specified during subnet creation | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: we will perhaps need to revisit that in the resource_mapping context :-) | 18:32 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:32 |
| tbachman | so, I just add a default in my driver for now, and we revisit later? | 18:32 |
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| tbachman | I’m just worried about changing a behavior/default at some later point | 18:32 |
| tbachman | At the very least, I say we add config vars, and then we can examine later if we want to specify this in the REST | 18:33 |
| tbachman | and if we expose it via REST, the defaults should be what’s in the config | 18:33 |
| tbachman | (and not defined in the REST itself) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: would it not be a matter of promoting this configuration in the future (as opposed to changing behavior)? | 18:33 |
| rkukura | adding config now and API later is fine with me | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay good, so we have agreement :-) | 18:33 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:33 |
| tbachman | cool — I’ll add that to my respin as well | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | assuming annak is on board too :-) | 18:34 |
| tbachman | and thanks to everyone for reviewing and approving the spec, too! | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think rkukura deserves special pat on the back for that! | 18:34 |
| annak | tbachman: i need to catch up a bit :) i understood subnets are always created implicitly for all drivers using subnetpools? | 18:34 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:34 |
| tbachman | annak: only in the implicit workflows :) | 18:35 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:35 |
| tbachman | annak: my bad | 18:35 |
| tbachman | yes — subnets are created implicitly when needed, and not when the L3P is created | 18:35 |
| tbachman | (from the subnetpools) | 18:35 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: now that I’ve taken up 1/2 of our IRC meeting, do we want to cover the proxy ip_pool still? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yes | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: still there? | 18:36 |
| songole | yes | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: go ahead, we should try to close this | 18:36 |
| tbachman | songole: not sure if you’ve followed the dual-stack development, but we’ve expanded the use of the ip_pool parameter | 18:36 |
| tbachman | as you’re well aware, there’s also a proxy ip_pool parameter | 18:37 |
| songole | tbachman: I need to catch up on the spec.. | 18:37 |
| tbachman | our expansion of this parameter is to instead of it being just a single subnet prefix, it’s now a string, which we can interpret as a comma-separated list of prefixes | 18:37 |
| tbachman | and the prefixes can be a mix of IPv4 and IPv6 | 18:37 |
| tbachman | right now, we haven’t changed any behavior for proxy ip_pool | 18:37 |
| tbachman | but if you want to take advantage of dual-stack, there is a change we should probably make | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: so the summary is, whether we need to do the same thing for proxy_ip_pool, what we did for the ip_pool of the L3P? | 18:38 |
| tbachman | right now, there is no ip_version provided with the proxy workflow | 18:38 |
| tbachman | the ip_version is implied as IPv4 | 18:38 |
| tbachman | we should consider adding an ip_version config var, and allow it to use the same values as is used with the L3P | 18:39 |
| tbachman | (4, 6, and now 46 to mean “dual-stack”) | 18:39 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: I would think it is required | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay, tbachman’s current spec and implementation does not address this | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: we would need some follow up work to get to that | 18:39 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: it wouldn’t take much, I think | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: until then, when using NFP and service chains, perhaps only ipv4 is going to work | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay | 18:40 |
| tbachman | I think it would just be adding the ip_version config var | 18:40 |
| songole | the proposal to make it a string - is it part of the spec? | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: yes | 18:40 |
| tbachman | songole: it is — for L3P | 18:40 |
| tbachman | but not the proxy ip_pool | 18:40 |
| songole | tbachman: ah, got it | 18:40 |
| * tbachman has a terrible memory — we may have also changed the type for proxy ip_pool to be a string | 18:41 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: could we potentially consider using the same ip_version for both ip_pool and proxy_ip_pool? | 18:41 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: we could | 18:41 |
| tbachman | songole: it is a string in the proxy ip_pool as well | 18:41 |
| tbachman | (that’s in my patch) | 18:41 |
| tbachman | I did that to keep things consistent | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ah good, so that change is already done | 18:42 |
| songole | tbachman: ok. cool | 18:42 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack. But we still need ip_version | 18:42 |
| tbachman | the question is whether we would want a separate one for proxy ip_pool | 18:42 |
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| tbachman | I can see the argument for a separate config file var | 18:42 |
| songole | we could use the same version param with proxy ip_pool as well | 18:42 |
| tbachman | since there is a separate ip_pool | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah, i meant the ip_version stands for both pools | 18:42 |
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| tbachman | In any case, this is something we can address in a follow-on patch, if needed | 18:43 |
| tbachman | we already have to do one for the DB schema change | 18:43 |
| tbachman | (in order to increase the ip_pool string from 64 to 256 characters) | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if we use the same ip_version, then perhaps only additional changes are required in the plumber | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ack | 18:44 |
| rkukura | tbachman: So if ip_version enables IPv6 but proxy_ip_pool does not have any IPv6 prefixes, does this disable IPv6 for proxies? | 18:44 |
| songole | tbachman: would nfp break with this change unless we handle v6 addressing changes? | 18:44 |
| tbachman | rkukura: right now, there is no checking of ip_version against proxy ip_pool vaues | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: it depends on how its being used | 18:44 |
| tbachman | songole: IPv4 works as-is | 18:45 |
| tbachman | the goal was to not break existing workflows | 18:45 |
| tbachman | so — you don’t get anything new, but nothing should be broken | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: nice thanks for confirming that | 18:45 |
| * tbachman admits he has a limited grasp of the proxy workflows | 18:45 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hopefullly our gate jobs will catch if anything breaks | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: the NFP gate jobs that is | 18:46 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:46 |
| rkukura | tbachman: right, so it should be possible to have ip_version=46, and proxy_ip_pool to contain v4 and/or v6 prefixes, providing control over which IP versions are available to proxy | 18:46 |
| * tbachman notes that those passed in his current iteration of his patch | 18:46 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: nuce | 18:46 |
| tbachman | rkukura: I’m not sure what happens if there is an IPv6 prefix in proxy_ip_pool | 18:46 |
| tbachman | we don’t have a test for that | 18:46 |
| tbachman | but IPv4 is currently tested, of course | 18:47 |
| tbachman | (and still works) | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay, perhaps we can switch to the other two topics on the agenda | 18:47 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: perhaps you can look at the spec: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459823/ | 18:48 |
| * tbachman notes he probably should have an exception to catch that for now | 18:48 | |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for linking that! | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we can follow up if you have concerns | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks again for being on top of this! | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic stable/mitaka timeout issues | 18:48 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np! | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the summary here is that the stable/mitaka py27 timesout more often than not | 18:49 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: will do. | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i have been trying to get to the bottom of it | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so far with limited success | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i identified a couple of places where we were trying to connect to external servers/processes | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and waiting for it to timeout | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on both occassions we could just get rid of the tests since these are legacy | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | unfortunately the problem is still not solved | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have this patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467391/ | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it also cleans up a lot of the logging | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you see this: | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | http://logs.openstack.org/26/463626/19/check/gate-group-based-policy-python27-ubuntu-trusty/6dc1861/console.html | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | a lot of the redundant noisy logging is gone | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | makes it easier to narrow down the problems | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we should try to merge this patch and couple of others in the queue: | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/group-based-policy+branch:stable/mitaka | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: your patches can also be posted | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats it from me, unless there are questions/comments | 18:54 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Which patches of mine? I haven’t done any of the backlogged stable/mitaka back-ports yet | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, i meant you can post them | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i feel more confident that they will not perpetually timeout | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | even while i try to fix the situation further | 18:55 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I haven’t been waiting for the timeout fix - I’ve been trying to finish the data migration patch for apic_aim | 18:55 |
| rkukura | I will review the patches mentioned. | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i know that, but the reality is taht we wouldnt have been able to merge them | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | even if you had posted them | 18:55 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: understood | 18:56 |
| rkukura | I guess that is important for manual backports | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i feel a little more optimistic now (rechecks will probably be needed) | 18:56 |
| rkukura | for these timeout work-arounds, I’d rather see fixes merged to master, then newton, then mitaka when possible | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, but these might be branch specific | 18:57 |
| rkukura | unless the code causing the issue is already gone/changed/fixed on the newer branches | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the log clean up which i am doing here will definitely be helpful in the other branches as well | 18:57 |
| rkukura | right | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will post the relevant patches separately | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some of the patching might be different for those branches | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay switching topics | 18:58 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Ocata sync | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: still there? | 18:58 |
| annak_ | yep | 18:58 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: 1 min | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry got delayed to get to this | 18:59 |
| annak_ | np | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i was hoping to have started merging the patches this week | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but might take a little longer since there is still some backlog | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meanwhile annak_ thanks for keeping up the work on this | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and let us know if you are hitting any issues | 19:00 |
| annak_ | np, sure | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can discuss on GBP IRC channel or over emails | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: thanks! | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks all for joining! | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 19:00 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 19:00 |
| annak_ | I had a few qs - I'll ask you offline | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 19:00:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-25-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-25-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| annak_ | bye! | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-25-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: definitely | 19:00 |
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| rkukura | bye | 19:01 |
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