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| yamamoto | hi | 05:34 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:35 |
| yamamoto | #startmeeting taas | 05:36 |
| openstack | yamamoto: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 05:36 |
| yamamoto | hm | 05:36 |
| kaz | ?? | 05:36 |
| yamamoto | it seems the previous meeting has not ended | 05:37 |
| kaz | i think so | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | #endmeeting | 05:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 05:37:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-07-18-18.00.html | 05:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-07-18-18.00.txt | 05:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-07-18-18.00.log.html | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | #startmeeting taas | 05:38 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 05:38:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamamoto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:38 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:38 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:38 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:38 |
| kaz | hi | 05:38 |
| yamamoto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 05:38 |
| yamamoto | it seems we don't have agenda today | 05:38 |
| yamamoto | kaz: do you have any topic? | 05:38 |
| kaz | no, i don't. | 05:39 |
| yamamoto | neither do i | 05:39 |
| kaz | one thing. | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | #topic Open Discussion | 05:40 |
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| reedip | hi | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | reedip: hi | 05:40 |
| kaz | reedip: hi | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | kaz: go ahead | 05:40 |
| reedip | I dont have any topic right now , but would be fixing up the report for TaaS | 05:40 |
| kaz | yamamoto: ok, thank you for your comment for L2 agent extension patch | 05:40 |
| kaz | i think IRC topic changes are needed to call procedure of neutron agent from neutron server. | 05:42 |
| reedip | IRC ? | 05:42 |
| yamamoto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480031/ | 05:42 |
| yamamoto | i guess he meant RPC | 05:42 |
| kaz | typo :) | 05:43 |
| yamamoto | i'm not sure why it can't use the existing topic currently used by taas-agent. | 05:43 |
| yamamoto | probably not a big deal though. | 05:44 |
| kaz | it think that it is necessary to identify the procedures. | 05:44 |
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| yamamoto | the name of method is given by the argument of ctx.cast(), isn't it? | 05:47 |
| kaz | yamamoto: yes | 05:47 |
| yamamoto | you changed it to use separate topics for each methods, right? | 05:48 |
| kaz | yes | 05:48 |
| yamamoto | why? | 05:49 |
| kaz | i could not call remote procedure of agent by using single topic. | 05:49 |
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| kaz | So, i thought it is necesarry to separate the topic. | 05:51 |
| yamamoto | do you have the non-working version of the code with a single topic somewhere? | 05:52 |
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| kaz | it is in my local environment | 05:54 |
| yamamoto | may i look at that? | 05:55 |
| yamamoto | i want to understand why it doesn't work | 05:56 |
| kaz | yes, i can send it. | 05:56 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 05:56 |
| kaz | thank you for your cooperation. | 05:57 |
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| yamamoto | anyone has any other topic? | 05:58 |
| yamamoto | i'm going to denver PTG | 05:59 |
| yamamoto | also openstack days tokyo | 05:59 |
| kaz | i will go to openstack days tokyo, too. | 06:00 |
| kaz | but i'm not sure whether i can go to denver or not. | 06:00 |
| reedip | not me , yet | 06:00 |
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| yamamoto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454788/ | 06:05 |
| yamamoto | (just a reminder of the report reedip mentioned above) | 06:06 |
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| yamamoto | i guess we've done | 06:14 |
| yamamoto | have a good day | 06:14 |
| yamamoto | #endmeeting | 06:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 06:14:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-07-19-05.38.html | 06:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-07-19-05.38.txt | 06:15 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-07-19-05.38.log.html | 06:15 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 12:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 12:05:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 12:05 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl,smcginnis ping? | 12:06 |
| tonyb | #topic roll call | 12:06 |
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| coolsvap | o/ | 12:06 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: even though we're a little late I'mm give otehr a minute or 2 ... | 12:07 |
| coolsvap | tonyb: sure | 12:07 |
| tonyb | #topic state of the queue(s) | 12:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "state of the queue(s) (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:09 | |
| tonyb | They all look okay to me. | 12:09 |
| tonyb | There are a few items in the gate that hopefully will merge | 12:09 |
| tonyb | the generate-constraints chnage is about to fail so it'd be good to fix that up | 12:10 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: Have you seen anything there to talk about? | 12:11 |
| coolsvap | tonyb: not atm | 12:12 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:12 |
| dirk | sorry, not really looking at -3 | 12:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: \o | 12:12 |
| dirk | tonyb: oh, you're still upside down? ;-) | 12:12 |
| coolsvap | I will follow up the queue this week to get started | 12:12 |
| coolsvap | dirk: o/ | 12:12 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: cool | 12:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: ;P | 12:13 |
| dirk | I'm confused about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484457/ | 12:13 |
| dirk | didn't we have the policy to land uc first and only after some time the g-r change? | 12:13 |
| dirk | g-r seems to be more on auto-pilot (approve asap) lately | 12:14 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah we do try to test the u-c chnage first | 12:15 |
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| tonyb | pyhgmi is probably only used by vmbc and ironic so the impact is low :/ | 12:16 |
| dirk | dims: ping? | 12:16 |
| tonyb | dirk: I'm not sure I'd say auto-pilot but yeah things are moving quickly | 12:16 |
| dims | pong dirk | 12:17 |
| dims | oh, meeting :) | 12:18 |
| tonyb | dims: Yeah :) | 12:18 |
| tonyb | dims: As you can see we're just discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484457/ | 12:18 |
| dims | release queue for today looks almost empty, fyi - just glance_store | 12:18 |
| dirk | dims: I can add stuff ;) | 12:19 |
| dims | dirk :) make me work eh? | 12:19 |
| tonyb | dims: Was theer some preassure to land the u-c and g-r chnages at the same time? | 12:19 |
| tonyb | dims: I'm sure the release queue will pick up :D | 12:19 |
| dims | dirk : was trying to make sure things that folks need get in this week rather than next | 12:20 |
| tonyb | dims: So it was the freeze coming up | 12:21 |
| dims | right | 12:21 |
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| dirk | ok, works for me | 12:21 |
| tonyb | ok | 12:21 |
| tonyb | dirk: anything else in the queue to talk about? | 12:22 |
| dirk | dims: thanks for the background | 12:22 |
| tonyb | Thanks dims | 12:22 |
| dirk | tonyb: not from me | 12:22 |
| tonyb | dirk: cool | 12:23 |
| * coolsvap waves at dims | 12:23 | |
| dims | one more, watch out for tooz requirement change and hold it until gcb or i can confirm that fix has been made for etcdgw | 12:23 |
| dims | hey coolsvap | 12:23 |
| dims | nice to see you again | 12:23 |
| tonyb | dims: Sure! | 12:23 |
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| dims | only other change to expect is oslo.config for some last minute changes from dhellmann | 12:24 |
| tonyb | Cool. | 12:24 |
| dims | tonyb : when do we usually freeze g-r/u-c? (and send emails about) | 12:24 |
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| tonyb | dims: It's part of the feature freeze week so probably Thursday my time | 12:26 |
| dims | cool thanks tonyb | 12:26 |
| tonyb | then we have the fun of all the exceptions and finding our minimums are broken | 12:26 |
| dims | right | 12:26 |
| tonyb | Anything else for the queue? | 12:27 |
| tonyb | #topic PTL | 12:28 |
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| tonyb | So I don't think it'll come as a shock but I wont be runnign for Queens PTL | 12:28 |
| tonyb | so y'all shoudl think about it. I'm around to answer questions if you wnat to know more and I'm not going anywhere ;P | 12:29 |
| dims | thanks for taking care of things this cycle tonyb | 12:30 |
| * tonyb kinda thinks prometheanfire will be interested but elections are good for the community :D | 12:30 | |
| tonyb | dims: March and April were a wreck personally, but that's kind of you to say | 12:30 |
| * dims encourages prometheanfire and dirk | 12:30 | |
| * coolsvap thought about prometheanfire | 12:30 | |
| dims | tonyb : y all of us had changes and thankfully we are still active here :) | 12:31 |
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| coolsvap | agree with tonyb elections are good for community | 12:31 |
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| tonyb | :) | 12:32 |
| tonyb | I'm not sure there's much more to say there | 12:32 |
| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 12:32 |
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| tonyb | - PTG anyone know if they're going? | 12:32 |
| * tonyb will be there | 12:33 | |
| dims | yes, i'll be there | 12:33 |
| tonyb | dims: \o/ | 12:33 |
| * asettle comes in | 12:33 | |
| asettle | hi tonyb | 12:33 |
| asettle | :) | 12:33 |
| dims | hey asettle | 12:33 |
| tonyb | ZOMG it's an asettle! | 12:33 |
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| asettle | oh heyyyy dims :) crashing ya meeting but I don't often get to talk to tonyb anymore </3 | 12:33 |
| * tonyb is just hiding from asettle | 12:34 | |
| asettle | Thanks very much tonyb | 12:34 |
| asettle | :p | 12:34 |
| tonyb | asettle: :P | 12:34 |
| tonyb | So anything else or do we want to get on with out days? | 12:35 |
| dims | that's it from me tonyb | 12:35 |
| tonyb | dirk, coolsvap ? | 12:35 |
| coolsvap | thats it from me as well | 12:35 |
| coolsvap | I will have more next week | 12:36 |
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| tonyb | Thanks all | 12:36 |
| dirk | dims: thanks, not sure about PTL | 12:36 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 12:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 12:37:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-07-19-12.05.html | 12:37 |
| dirk | tonyb: nope | 12:37 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-07-19-12.05.txt | 12:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-07-19-12.05.log.html | 12:37 |
| dims | dirk : ack i understand | 12:37 |
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| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:02 |
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| yankcrime | o/ | 14:02 |
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| adriant | o/ | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | I see some familiarly faces here =) seanhandley will host the meeting today....I'm on vacation and traveling right now so will just be around for a couple of minutes more | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | hey folks o/ | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | I guess seanhandley will be here any minute | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | hehe....second I mean =) | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | hi seanhandley | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | is this publiccloud wg meeting? | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:05 |
| yankcrime | hi mrhillsman | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | hey there buddy | 14:06 |
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| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | welcome =) | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | hi folks! | 14:06 |
| rmart04 | afternnon! | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | good, looks like we've got quite a few of us today! | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | Let's get started then | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 14:07:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is seanhandley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | Everyone please check out the Etherpad | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | Add your details to the attendees section | 14:08 |
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| seanhandley | Ok, let's start by reviewing last meeting's action points | 14:10 |
| seanhandley | #topic Review last meeting's action points | 14:10 |
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| seanhandley | So, it looks like Howard isn't here today | 14:10 |
| seanhandley | So I'll talk to him about a) and b) offline and we'll follow up next time | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | looks so | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | (I haven't written any WG material with him yet) | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | so onto c) - did you get to edit the wiki yankcrime ? | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | update...know he has created a WG meetup...will see if I find the link... | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | oh great tobberydberg - please share it +1 | 14:12 |
| yankcrime | my update is a short one as i can only offer an apology for not yet putting together the updates for the wiki | 14:12 |
| yankcrime | so can we just carry that action please | 14:12 |
| seanhandley | ok | 14:12 |
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| tobberydberg | #link https://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-Public-Cloud-WG-Meetup-Copenhagen/ | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | Regarding d) I have discussed the OpenStack Passport some more with Flanders from the OpenStack Foundation | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | aha thanks! | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | I have a rough prototype here in Ruby: https://github.com/seanhandley/passport | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | the README file explains loosely how it works | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | ...thats on the wiki as well... | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | this is by no means finalised | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | and I need to put the details into a spec on openstack.org before next meeting | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | #action Sean to make a spec for the OpenStack passport | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | +1 | 14:14 |
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| seanhandley | #action Nick to update the wiki with features and more info on how to get involved in the WG | 14:14 |
| yankcrime | ta | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | Does anyone have any thoughts/questions re: the prototype ? | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | It's literally me building the simplest API I could think of | 14:15 |
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| seanhandley | Also, does anyone want a recap on what the OpenStack Passport scheme is and how it's loosely going to work? | 14:16 |
| pilgrimstack | seanhandley: it could be interested to have a schema to show the exchanges between this tool and the cloud providers | 14:16 |
| yankcrime | seanhandley: probably worth a quick recap and what your discussion with flanders concluded with | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | pilgrimstack: Like a JSON Schema ? | 14:17 |
| pilgrimstack | nop, picture | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | i was not aware of it being codified, i believed it to be a document, "passport" style document, that was printed and handed out | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | Oh I see pilgrimstack - yes a diagram is a must | 14:17 |
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| tobberydberg | mrhillsman: Thats one setup of it as well | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | #action Sean to create a diagram of flow for the passport service | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | mrhillsman: It is both :) | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | I'll recap! | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:18 |
| adriant | not what I imagined, but that kind of basic api would actually be quite easy for us to tie into our existing billing flow oddly enough. | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | But, with central part to manage all "codes" | 14:18 |
| Labedz_ | I think that technical part is relative easy but how about legal and 'anty-abuse' side? | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | OpenStack Passport recap: It's a credit scheme for public cloud providers whereby people will be handed out codes that translate to a certain dollar value of credit. So they'll sign up to your cloud, you'll receive their unique token, then you'll validate it against OpenStack's central service. | 14:19 |
| adriant | yeah, it needs a couple of extra layers of security | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | #link A rough outline of how the flow works https://gist.githubusercontent.com/seanhandley/45abb024511c79ebea25c195652c0d5d/raw/0e21f47651fb38cd43c4fbe2933395a43a0d48e3/gistfile1.txt | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | I'm thinking OpenStack.org mints the passport tokens and then validates them - then it's down to us as public cloud providers to mark a code as "expired" | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | then we can do whatever internal procedures need to happen in our companies/codebases to make sure the user is discounted the correct amount from their next usage bill | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | or if your cloud works on topup credit it's even simpler I guess | 14:21 |
| adriant | on signup, or topup, add credit | 14:21 |
| adriant | I like it | 14:21 |
| adriant | and yeah, at least for us, easy to integrate | 14:21 |
| seanhandley | My priority is to keep it as simple as humanly possible | 14:22 |
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| tobberydberg | easy for us as well | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | the tokens can just be securely random strings - there are good libs for generating those | 14:22 |
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| seanhandley | the other side of this is the admin interface where OpenStack.org gets to create more tokens | 14:23 |
| pilgrimstack | one token will be usable on many providers ? | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | yes pilgrimstack | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | i think this might be a little bit overkill ? | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | the value of the scheme is that you can be given a card at a conference that lets you try out anyone's cloud, basically for free | 14:24 |
| pilgrimstack | in the same time ? | 14:24 |
| adriant | seanhandley: until your total credit runs out, or how exactly? | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | if user could just use a SSO to login to an OpenStack public cloud via OpenStack ID | 14:24 |
| seanhandley | Well, this is open for discussion actually | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | and then they could just use what ever promo scheme that cloud offers | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | :) thinking out loud | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | I'm due to have a meeting with Mark Collier to discuss it once he gets a window in his schedule | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | I'm pro that one token is valid for $xx at ONE cloud, then invalid...but could be different kinds as well | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: Not sure I understand - wouldn't all participating clouds need to change their auth to work with the OAuth part for that to work? | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | no | 14:25 |
| adriant | one time use, on cloud of your choice is probably easiest | 14:25 |
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| yankcrime | zhipeng: i think it'd be more problematic to get willing cloud operators to permit logins via their openstack id than it would be to build this service | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | tobberydberg: Yes, that's an important decision we need to make | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | no | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | Right | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | Point 2 in the Etherpad is to discuss this in depth | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | so let's do that in just a second | 14:27 |
| zhipeng | we should avoid design a new auth api , that was my thinking in general | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | point 1) e. is done, our group is proposed to the user committee, so that's awesome | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | point 1) f. We submitted three CFPs for the Sydney summit | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | One is a presentation about the WG | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | the others are fishbowl forum sessions | 14:28 |
| seanhandley | one is for the passport service | 14:28 |
| seanhandley | the other is for the missing features list, to recap and get more ideas, and discuss in more depth | 14:28 |
| seanhandley | a continuation of Boston, basically | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | Lets hope to get those three accepted! | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | Fingers crossed :) | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | Ok, back to the passport stuff | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | #topic OpenStack Passport Service | 14:29 |
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| seanhandley | I think it'd be worth doing a vote regarding how each token is redeemed i.e. whole amount or partial amounts | 14:29 |
| pilgrimstack | for me the easyest way is to simplify the interactions between openstack.org and the providers. for that, the foundation should deal vouchers and a list of providers. Then the providers should be able to manage the uniqness of a voucher on their own side | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | the case for partial amounts is that one OpenStack Passport token can be cashed in at multiple clouds | 14:30 |
| seanhandley | the case for full amounts is that it's simpler to implement | 14:30 |
| adriant | maybe each token has sub tokens? | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | +1 pilgrimstack | 14:30 |
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| adriant | and a user can use as many tokens per cloud as they want, or try lots of clouds. | 14:30 |
| pilgrimstack | with that, the providers could manage the amount of the voucher, the expiration date... | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | btw on point 1.a I've created the meetup group for the Nordic one :) | 14:31 |
| seanhandley | thanks Howard :) | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | I could later add sean and tobias as co-organizer :) | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | shit...have to leave here... Just leaving a sentens here before I run... I believe that the most important thing to discuss is basics (what you are doing now) and what is bare minimum for a first version to work in a simple form to the Sydney summit =) | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | We'll circle back to the WG material before next meeting | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | #action Howard and Sean to begin writing up some public cloud WG material ahead of the Sydney Summit | 14:32 |
| adriant | also, seanhandley, you should consider making the app in python ;) | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | thxx sean | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | adriant: That's the plan! | 14:32 |
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| seanhandley | I wanted a throw-away prototype just to get a feel for how it could work | 14:33 |
| seanhandley | Before then, though, spec | 14:33 |
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| adriant | fair enough :) | 14:33 |
| seanhandley | I tend to agree with Tobias on keeping it to bare minimum for first version | 14:33 |
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| seanhandley | but perhaps the OpenStack Foundation could reduce the amounts and let people have 2 or 3 passports? | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | then each passport is redeemed in full with the chosen public cloud | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | allowing partial redemption is nice in the long run but it does complicate the app | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: Back to your point about not writing a new service. I'm not sure how else we could make a scheme like this work... | 14:35 |
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| zhipeng | i thought the original proposal was to treat the passport just as a marketing prmotional plan | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | that users see an overall concept of OpenStack Cloud Open Passport | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | and each cloud provider have the right to have their own promo scheme setup ? | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | I mean my understanding was we don't need to actually have a new "Passport token" | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | So how would a user get their free credits? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | just use whatever exists now, just put a spin from MKT point of view | 14:37 |
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| zhipeng | just as any user could get their credits now from OVH | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | or citynetworks | 14:37 |
| pilgrimstack | what do you think about the "KISS way" in the etherpad ? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | it is good for a long term goal | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | i guess the foundation wants to encourage users to make use of openstack-based public clouds, but without blessing any one in particular | 14:38 |
| adriant | zhipeng: while I know most cloud providers have their own credit schemes, having a unified one like this may also prove interesting, and promote more to the user that openstack clouds are 'mostly' like secondary regions. | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | but I don't think foundation got the resource and motive to do that, and align with so many public clouds | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | yes | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | so with this they can just say "here's a token that'll get you free credit, you go ahead and pick one" | 14:38 |
| seanhandley | Yes, the Foundation needs to remain impartial | 14:38 |
| yankcrime | versus them handing out specific codes for ovh, citycloud, etc. | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | and having them mint the tokens makes it simpler | 14:39 |
| adriant | this would mean users get the SAME credit, everywhere. | 14:39 |
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| seanhandley | because they can print the unique token and the dollar value onto the passport card that gets handed out to the users | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | Yes adriant | 14:39 |
| adriant | it's a marketing exercise for 'openstack' rather than OVH or such | 14:39 |
| yankcrime | yup | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | and we have to do a currency translation from $100 into whatever currency we like to bill | 14:39 |
| adriant | it benefits openstack as a whole rather than the user picking the cloud with the fanciest looking care :P | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | that's a totally arbitrary amount of credit btw - it's open for discussion :) | 14:40 |
| adriant | s/care/card | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | i think folks might think this foundation tighten their hands | 14:40 |
| pilgrimstack | seanhandley: it's impossible to speack about money with evrery public cloud | 14:40 |
| rmart04 | A ‘passport’ implies to the user that they can move between providers with their credit. Though I know from my side, the easiest thing for us to implement would be to associate a validated token with a £££ service credit. | 14:40 |
| pilgrimstack | if already very hard to do it internaly at OVH with concurrency and different prices of ressources in dofferent country | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | anyways my suggestions is to have the KISS thing as a Queen target maybe | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | but if we shoot for Sydney summit, we need a more short term approach | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | Yes | 14:42 |
| yankcrime | yeah rmart04, that needs clearing up | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | Basically, I want to see a working prototype that we can announce at Sydney | 14:42 |
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| seanhandley | the foundation would love to get this in a keynote | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | i still do not understand why a simple coupon code would not work if the provider is managing all the details | 14:42 |
| pilgrimstack | I think the passport should be more like "up to X CPU, Y Ram and Z GB for 1 week free" | 14:42 |
| adriant | mrhillsman: because that coupon code shouldn't be a code for each cloud | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | and it's a great success story to tell for public cloud to show so many have cooperated on this universal scheme | 14:43 |
| adriant | it should be one (or a few) for each user, that can be redeemed once one any cloud | 14:43 |
| adriant | which means central store for codes | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | mrhillsman: Because the OpenStack Foundation is handing them out | 14:43 |
| adriant | and each cloud checking that store for the codes | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | if we all mint our own codes that only work on our own clouds then we have to send them to OpenStack | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | and we may as well all just be doing our own discount code schemes | 14:44 |
| adriant | rather than each cloud giving a code per bundle, and then the user getting 10+ codes | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | the prices are so different between providers, for $100 on some cloud you can run just one instance for 2 weeks, on other provider you can run it for 6 months | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | when David floated the idea | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | I appreciate the appeal of it for internal simplicity but it nullifies the spirit of the scheme | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | it was just a Azure/AWS MKT scheme to have a coupon card | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | :) | 14:44 |
| adriant | pilgrimstack: maybe that's part of the usefulness of the scheme, it lets the user pick which cloud works for them price wise | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | Ok | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | that's kind of the way i thought of it as well, i got a summit, i get a passport | 14:45 |
| seanhandley | I think everyone has their own take on this, which is great | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | maybe it is SYDPASSPORT code, which expires when Vancouver comes around | 14:45 |
| seanhandley | Rather than make a decision today | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | and new passports are handed out then | 14:45 |
| seanhandley | let's all consider the possibilities and write up how we see it working, including motiviations | 14:46 |
| pilgrimstack | mrhillsman: I love that, it's the ultra KISS way :D | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | i do understand the idea behind it being more robust | 14:46 |
| seanhandley | then we can discuss those candidate solutions next time with pros and cons | 14:46 |
| seanhandley | and maybe vote for something that works for us all | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:47 |
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| seanhandley | Right. If you have an idea for how it should work then add it to the Etherpad | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | OR maybe write up a Gist like I did: https://gist.github.com/seanhandley/45abb024511c79ebea25c195652c0d5d | 14:48 |
| rmart04 | Getting a passport with your OS summit ticket would be pretty awesome, having a unique token system in place means we can get metrics on how many were consumed etc… | 14:49 |
| seanhandley | rmart04: That's true :) | 14:49 |
| adriant | I' | 14:49 |
| yankcrime | hmm, might be privacy-related issues with sharing that kind of information though | 14:50 |
| adriant | I'll put my hand up for helping implement anything around this, I should be able to find time | 14:50 |
| yankcrime | could be a bit of a minefield tbh | 14:50 |
| yankcrime | mrhillsman: a single common code wouldn't work, no way of invalidating it | 14:50 |
| adriant | yankcrime, not if we only store collect anonymous data about number of codes claimed vs those given out and such | 14:50 |
| adriant | or number of codes claimed per cloud, etc | 14:51 |
| adriant | building that into the system shouldn't be too hard | 14:51 |
| yankcrime | adriant: probably, ianal - that's one for the foundation | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | #action Anyone with an opinion on how it should work at a high level, write up your ideas and we'll discuss our options next meeting | 14:51 |
| yankcrime | i guess given flanders has tabled it as a suggestion they're already cool with it | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | seanhandley +1 | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | I need to have this meeting with Sparky tbh | 14:52 |
| rmart04 | YC - Agreed if they were distributed and assiciated with a specific OpenStack Summit passes, that could be tricky | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | I'll poke Flanders about it | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | then we should get a very clear picture of how the Foundation sees this all working | 14:52 |
| adriant | rmart04: I think that association isn't too useful. Keep it random, and don't store which pass got which code. | 14:53 |
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| seanhandley | We're almost out of time - please do write on the Etherpad after the meeting though folks | 14:53 |
| mrhillsman | not sure how extensive the invalidation would need to be, but if the individual providers are handling all that, they could just set that code to be valid until x date | 14:53 |
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| seanhandley | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10ID98gJTMd91hmQuKJDfdm6YtC1AjAbcf4QsgnqsPFI/edit#gid=0 | 14:53 |
| mrhillsman | but yeah, again, i understand the benefit of making it more robust | 14:54 |
| seanhandley | Thanks for adding your details rmart04 | 14:54 |
| rmart04 | adriant: agreed, but would require integration with the summit pass printing stations… more apis! SH: np | 14:54 |
| seanhandley | I don't see catalyst on the spreadsheet yet adriant :) | 14:54 |
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| seanhandley | mrhillsman: Are you associated with a public cloud provider ? | 14:55 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 14:55 |
| adriant | seanhandley: adding us now :) | 14:55 |
| seanhandley | awesome | 14:55 |
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| mrhillsman | here with zhipeng repping huawei | 14:55 |
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| yankcrime | :D | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | oh, and am a UC member | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | s/am/I am | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | If anyone wants to attend OpenStack Days UK in London (September) or OpenStack Days Nordic in Copenhagen (October) then we have a room reserved for the public cloud WG to discuss these things | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | so we can sit around a whiteboard and figure out the passport stuff | 14:56 |
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| zhipeng | seanhandley should we have a CFP process for the meetup ? | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | I don't think so zhipeng | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | We have a medium room booked for a few hours | 14:57 |
| mrhillsman | who is driving those osd? | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | casual then :) | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | so I think we do a fishbowl and talk through what's important to the group | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | cool | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | mrhillsman: DataCentred is organising the London one (so that's me and yankcrime, plus others) | 14:57 |
| yankcrime | mrhillsman: i'm one of the organisers for the UK one, and tobias from citycloud is helping nordics | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | You can talk to tobberydberg about Nordic :) | 14:58 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | yankcrime could you help setup the meetup group ? | 14:58 |
| yankcrime | zhipeng shoot me an email with whatever you need or talk to sean, i've got you a room that'll seat up to 30 for a couple of hours | 14:58 |
| seanhandley | We're about out of time today. Clearly we still have loads to talk about! | 14:58 |
| seanhandley | Don't forget the #openstack-publiccloud channel | 14:58 |
| seanhandley | we can discuss things in there any time | 14:59 |
| yankcrime | the scientific wg are doing something similar as well, might be worth tapping them up to see how formal / informal they're keeping it | 14:59 |
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| yankcrime | and follow the same pattern | 14:59 |
| yankcrime | (for days uk anyway) | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | Thanks everyone for coming - really looking forward to seeing how things come together over the next few weeks! | 15:00 |
| seanhandley | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 15:00:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-19-14.07.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-19-14.07.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-19-14.07.log.html | 15:00 |
| pilgrimstack | thx all | 15:00 |
| rmart04 | cheers | 15:00 |
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| yankcrime | thanks all | 15:00 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 16:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker hogepodge | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.8 | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
| eglute | please update agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.8 as needed | 16:01 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | anyone else here for interop meeting? | 16:01 |
| zhipeng | o/ | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:02 |
| * eglute waves to everyone | 16:02 | |
| eglute | please add items to the agenda if you have any: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.8 | 16:03 |
| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:03 | |
| eglute | We have etherpad for PTG topics started. please suggest topics! | 16:03 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG | 16:03 |
| eglute | and let us know you are coming by putting your name on the etherpad as well | 16:04 |
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| eglute | anything else on PTG? | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:05 |
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| eglute | we are a month out from getting the guideline approved | 16:05 |
| eglute | sorry i forgot to merge the original patch until i looked yesterday | 16:06 |
| eglute | thanks mguiney for getting the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467528/ straightened out | 16:06 |
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| eglute | mguiney does the test need to be added to the 2017.08 now? | 16:06 |
| mguiney | glad to finally have it merged! | 16:07 |
| eglute | :) | 16:07 |
| mguiney | i am not sure on that one, i seem to remember some discussion on it at previous meetings | 16:07 |
| mguiney | but unfortunately do not remember what conclusion we came to | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | I think general consensus was that it's probably a bit late given that we're just a couple of weeks from the Guideline going up for approval, but we may include some notes in the BoD presentation that this is something that'll be making an appearance in the next Guideline. | 16:08 |
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| mguiney | thank you markvoelker, was just going to logdive but it looks like you beat me to the punch! :) | 16:09 |
| eglute | sounds good to me | 16:09 |
| eglute | though if it is advisory, i would be ok to add it | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | That said, since we've now cut the 2017.08 guideline doc it would be totally fine to merge that into next.json | 16:10 |
| eglute | +1 | 16:10 |
| * mguiney nods | 16:11 | |
| markvoelker | And speaking of our freshly minted 2017.08 doc: I expect to push up a small change later today to add a couple of test aliases that came in after we cut the doc. NBD, but keep a lookout. =) | 16:11 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker | 16:11 |
| eglute | i know we had quite a few aliases merge recently | 16:11 |
| eglute | anything else we need to do with 2017.08? | 16:12 |
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| eglute | in that case, moving on | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | I think that's about it. Once we've tidied up the aliases, I'll get a patch ready to move it from review state to approved state, and we can merge that if/when the BoD approves it. | 16:13 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker! | 16:13 |
| eglute | #topic Schema 2.0 | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Schema 2.0 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:13 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430556/ | 16:13 |
| eglute | not sure if hogepodge is around today | 16:13 |
| eglute | we didnt get any additional reviews | 16:14 |
| eglute | err, comments | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge is in Asia this week I believe | 16:14 |
| eglute | err, comments mguiney for reviewing | 16:14 |
| eglute | i meant, thank you mguiney for rewiew | 16:14 |
| eglute | i am ok to merge the patch once it passes jenkins | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | I think the merge conflict is just with tox.ini which should be trivial to fix. I can add that to my queue if hogepodge doesn't get to it first on account of travel. | 16:15 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney | 16:15 |
| eglute | err | 16:15 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker | 16:15 |
| eglute | anything else on the schema? | 16:16 |
| mguiney | (darn that tab complete) | 16:16 |
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| * eglute needs to be slower with that tab complete | 16:16 | |
| eglute | #topic Vertical Programs | 16:17 |
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| eglute | markvoelker any updates? | 16:17 |
| eglute | i know you been super busy lately | 16:17 |
| * Rockyg hands eglute a nice steaming mug of coffee | 16:17 | |
| markvoelker | Not anything very interesting. Perhaps someone who wasn't in the air (hi!) during the OPNFV Dovetail meeting a while back wants to give a digest? | 16:17 |
| eglute | yes, here is a short update | 16:18 |
| eglute | we basically talked about how interop wg operates and how we create new guidelines | 16:18 |
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| eglute | it was mostly educational session for openfv team | 16:19 |
| eglute | opnfv meeting has a bigger partiicpation than this meeting. maybe we can learn from them how to get more people involved :) | 16:20 |
| eglute | Rockyg anything to add about that meeting? | 16:20 |
| Rockyg | Well, some of the folks are pretty familiar with Refstack. They aeem to be going that direction but with scenario tests | 16:21 |
| Rockyg | I submitted a panel for that, refstack, openstack, opnfv for the forum. | 16:21 |
| Rockyg | UI think we need to do a tutorial on the schema for them | 16:21 |
| eglute | thanks Rockyg | 16:21 |
| Rockyg | And schedule some forum time with them | 16:22 |
| Rockyg | maybe a lessons learned/don't do that session? | 16:22 |
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| eglute | Rockyg can you set something up? | 16:23 |
| Rockyg | Sure. I'll get a convo started. | 16:23 |
| eglute | thank you Rockyg | 16:23 |
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| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:24 |
| eglute | markvoelker do you have any drafts on nfv vertical program? | 16:25 |
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| markvoelker | I've started compiling some tests and capabilities, but no draft for NFV yet. For extension programs generally, see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472785/ | 16:26 |
| eglute | markvoelker thanks. I will look through the latest coments | 16:27 |
| Rockyg | markvoelker, should we try to get a dovetail person working on this with you and/or the rest of the team? | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | I would definitely like to have more input on tests/capabilities that we should consider for this. | 16:28 |
| Rockyg | Someone who configures test setup to get what the minimum requirements are at least... | 16:28 |
| Rockyg | I'll ping some dovetail folks, but Zhipeng also might know some prople to connect to. | 16:29 |
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| eglute | thanks Rockyg | 16:30 |
| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:30 |
| eglute | #topic open discussion | 16:31 |
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| eglute | anything else today? | 16:31 |
| eglute | if not, we can end early! | 16:32 |
| Rockyg | maybe one other... | 16:32 |
| eglute | Rockyg yes? | 16:32 |
| Rockyg | I know zhipeng is deep in the public cloud wg. they seem very organized. It might be worth considering trying to do that vertica soonish. | 16:33 |
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| Rockyg | Or get it started. | 16:33 |
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| Rockyg | I'm starting to think we need a new recruitment effort, like we did to get PTL's attention | 16:34 |
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| Rockyg | Myabe a topic forn PTG | 16:35 |
| Rockyg | I'll go add it... | 16:35 |
| eglute | i think public cloud vertical would be interesting | 16:35 |
| eglute | thank you Rockyg | 16:35 |
| eglute | agree on recruiting | 16:35 |
| eglute | other comments? | 16:36 |
| eglute | if not, we can end the meeting | 16:37 |
| eglute | thank you everyone | 16:37 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 16:37:24 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-07-19-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-07-19-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-07-19-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | Yay. | 16:37 |
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| mguiney | have a good day, y'all! | 16:38 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 20:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | It's awful quiet all of a sudden :) | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| robcresswell | So it looks like we're going to land Django 1.11 support, just about | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/dj111 | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | I think I've documented he step-by-step fairly well in that blueprint | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | Also sent an email earlier with the last few steps | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119887.html | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | Aside from this, please check out the blueprint list and review anything active. It'd be good to land some of the Neutron feature bps that are out in the next week. | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | After that we'll hit feature freeze, where its bug fixes only. | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | That's all from me anyway | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:06 | |
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| robcresswell | SO, open discussion, if anyone has any questions about Horizon, or bugs / blueprints / patches they'd like to discuss, now is the time. | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Anything goes. I'll leave the meeting open for a few minutes if you need time to gather your thoughts :) | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | is d-o-a reintegration a pike item? | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: No, I've bumped it to Queens. Too risky this late in the game. | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | ok, that would be my thoughts too | 20:07 |
| jeremy_moffitt | oddball question, any known issues with the menu system on master? I havent tried devstack, but ran master against a newton backend and I got no menu entries (just the category headers)... tried again with stable/newton and no problem... haven't tried other branches yet | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | plus, not sure what the upgrade story is there | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482561/ | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | ^^ for anyone wondering what me and david-lyle are talking about | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: Yeah, I got a bit overexcited I think. I'll bump it to queens, then I can have a chat with the requirements / release teams and packagers have time to adjust. | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | I think integrating it is the right path though, the more I've thought about it. | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: I've seen this mentioned enough to believe there is a very intermittent issue, but I've had no solid / repeatable bug reports. | 20:09 |
| jeremy_moffitt | robcresswell: ok thanks, I'll investigate more | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: We did believe it fixed a while ago, but its been mentioned again since. | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Any other questions? Otherwise we can end early :) | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | If anyone doesn't feel comfortable asking a question / raising concerns in a group setting, please feel free to private message / email me too. Either works. | 20:14 |
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| robcresswell | Alright, I think we can call it there. Thanks everyone! | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 20:16:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-19-20.00.html | 20:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-19-20.00.txt | 20:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-19-20.00.log.html | 20:16 |
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| rdopiera | bye | 20:17 |
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