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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 20 15:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
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mlavallehi there15:01
Swamihi15:01
mlavalle#chair swami15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: mlavalle swami15:01
mlavallehaleyb|off is off on vacation15:02
mlavallehopefully he is having a lot of fun15:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements15:02
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mlavallePike is practically gone15:02
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mlavalleP-3 is next week:15:03
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mlavalle#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html15:03
mlavalleThe PTG is also approaching soon:15:03
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/15:04
mlavalleI took a peek a few minutes ago15:04
mlavallethere are 410 tickets still available15:04
Swamimlavalle: good to know.15:04
mlavallesale end on September 8th15:05
Swamimlavalle: I have not booked yet.15:05
mlavalleSwami: are you planning to attend?15:05
Swamimlavalle: not sure, need to get permission.15:05
Swamimlavalle: I was told I can go, but things might change.15:05
* mlavalle hoping to see Swami in Denver15:05
mlavalleany toher annoucements?15:06
SwamiI don't have any.15:06
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mlavalle#topic Bugs15:07
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mlavalleSwami the mike is yours15:07
Swamimlavalle: thanks15:07
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170279015:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1702790 in neutron "DVR Router update task fails when agent restarts" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:07
SwamiI have a patch up for review and needs review.15:08
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Swami#link  https://review.openstack.org/48132115:08
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SwamiWe have discussed about this bug last week. But need reviews on that patch.15:08
SwamiThe next one in the list is15:09
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170276915:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1702769 in neutron "Binding info for DVR port not found error seen when notify_l2pop_port_wiring is called with DVR routers" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:09
SwamiI also have a patch for this bug.15:09
Swami#link  https://review.openstack.org/48131115:10
SwamiNeeds review as well.15:10
SwamiThe next one in the list is15:10
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158369415:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:10
SwamiThis RFE/bug has two patches and waiting for review.15:11
mlavallefor this one I am working my way through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46643415:11
mlavalleI started earlier today15:11
SwamiThis RFE has two or three bugs associated with it and we have targeted it for pike, so need to hurry up.15:12
Swamimlavalle: thanks15:12
mlavalleI have a few comments so far15:12
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mlavalleand intend to work thorugh all the patchsets related to it15:12
Swamimlavalle: thanks will appreciate.15:12
mlavalleto make sure I don't miss any of tha pactshets, please post the links to the other ones15:13
Swamimlavalle: will do.15:13
SwamiServer side patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466434/15:14
SwamiAgent side patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/15:14
mlavalleyeah, that's the one I am reviewing now15:14
mlavalle434 I mean15:14
Swamimlavalle: I have started my work on the new RFE to centralize Floatingip based on the above two patches.15:14
mlavalleand I have the agent side in my radar screen15:15
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/166787715:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] Allow DVR for E/W while leaving N/S centralized" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:15
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SwamiHere is the patch link15:15
mlavalleI think I saw a wip patchset for that one15:15
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/48533315:15
Swamimlavalle: Yes it is almost done. I need to do some testing and add the tests to validate it.15:16
Swamimlavalle: It mostly reuses the code defined in the previous bug, the new thing added to this is basically the agent type.15:17
mlavalleok, i'll keep that in mind15:17
Swamimlavalle: kevinbenton: Just to give you an update on the l2pop db bug that we fixed for performance. That works great.15:17
Swamimlavalle: We have tested around 8K VMs without any major delay in the rpc loop.15:18
mlavallethat's great, thanks for testing and reporting15:18
Swamimlavalle: Probably this bug also might be related to the rpc_loop delay. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152685515:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1526855 in neutron "VMs fail to get metadata in large scale environments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:19
Swamimlavalle: I will confirm it and we can close this as well.15:19
mlavalleperfect thanks15:20
Swamimlavalle: that's all I had for bugs this week.15:20
mlavalleSwami: so I am going to prioritize https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466434/ and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/15:20
mlavalleand then the rest15:20
mlavalleok?15:20
Swamimlavalle: no problem.15:20
mlavallefrom my side, I have been keeping an eye on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168322715:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1683227 in neutron "test_legacy_router test cases sometimes fail with: Cannot find device "qg-*" when moving it into a namespace" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:21
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mlavalleno hits over the past 7 days15:22
mlavalleI filed a bug with the ovs team15:22
Swamimlavalle: that is good new.15:22
mlavallenot much else to report there15:22
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/169476415:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1694764 in neutron "test_metadata_proxy_respawned failed to spawn metadata proxy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:23
mlavalleI haven't seen any hits in Kibana over the past 2 weeks15:23
mlavalleI will watch it a few more days and if I don't see any hits, will close it15:24
Swamimlavalle: +115:24
mlavallethose are all the busg that I have15:24
mlavalleany other bugs?15:25
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mlavalleok, moving on15:25
mlavalle#topic Routed Networks15:25
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mlavalleI have continued working on a spec for floating ips15:26
mlavalleI had a conversation with carl_baldwin over the phone this pat Monday to get some guidance15:26
Swamimlavalle: good15:26
mlavallehe recommended talking to GoDaddy and cern, to make sure we cover their use cases15:27
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mlavalleI had a quick irc chat with klindgren_ of GoDaddy15:28
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mlavalleand we agreed to have a con call tomorrow15:28
Swamimlavalle: ok15:28
mlavalleI am planning to do the same with Cern15:28
mlavalleThat's it on this matter15:28
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda15:28
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mlavalleAny other topics we should discuss today?15:29
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mlavalleok, in that case, let's go back to Gerrit :-)15:30
mlavalle#endmeeting15:30
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Jul 20 15:30:37 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:30
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davidshaThanks15:30
Swamimlavalle: thanks, bye15:30
mlavalleo/15:30
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elmiko#startmeeting api-wg16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 20 16:00:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_wg'16:00
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elmiko#chair edleafe16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: edleafe elmiko16:00
dtantsuro/16:01
edleafe\o16:01
elmikohi16:01
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elmiko#chair cdent16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko16:01
edleafe#chair cdent16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko16:01
edleafejinx!16:01
elmikohehe =)16:01
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cdentmy communism was getting tested over in openstack-tc16:01
elmikoi owe you some beverage i suppose16:01
elmikowow, sounds interesting16:01
edleafeI don't want to know16:02
elmikojust a head's up before we start, i have a hard stop at quarter till the hour16:02
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cdentmy efforts to model openstack problems as a conflict between labor and rentiers doesn’t quite work16:02
elmikohaha16:03
elmikosounds hilarious though16:03
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda16:03
elmiko#topic previous meeting action items16:03
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elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/16:03
elmikook, so we were all supposed to chew on the idea of the ptg review stuff16:03
elmikoand due to a stray ":" cdent's action item for me never got committed XD16:04
elmikobut, i created a thing anyways16:04
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Guided_Review_Process16:04
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elmikomy hope was to get the ball rolling and just throw out a few ideas16:04
* cdent reads16:05
* edleafe reads too16:05
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edleafeSo it sounds like a wider-ranged approach than what I had in mind16:06
edleafe"Pick a general area of your API to focus on"16:06
elmikowell, that was just my first stab16:06
dtantsurmmm, interesting. I suspect Ironic could use a review or two16:06
edleafeI was thinking more like "pick an API that is causing controversy among team members"16:06
elmikomy hope is that interested parties will look at their api, figure out some questions they have about api-wg guidelines, and then start a review16:07
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edleafeThe general approach would be excellent for new APIs, though16:07
elmikoedleafe: i agree with the "pick an API..." approach16:07
cdentit is certainly _far_ easier to do a review when there is a known conflict or question16:08
elmikoyeah, i tried to hint that teams should pick something a little more specific, but maybe that wasn't clear enough16:08
cdenthaving people rock up and say “do you like our api” is hard to get any leverage16:08
elmikototally16:08
elmikoso, maybe #1 should say "pick a specific part of your API" instead?16:09
edleafe"No, your API sucks. Next!"16:09
elmikoLOL16:09
dtantsurlol16:09
elmikoedleafe: come on, cdent would be way more tactful than that!16:09
dtantsurreserve a slot or two for us, we have a few long-standing problems16:09
elmikodtantsur: you're first in line apparently =)16:10
dtantsurgood :)16:10
elmikobear in mind, this is just a proposal at this point16:10
dtantsursure, sure :)16:10
cdentCould we say “priority will be given to those applicants who are trying to make a choice between two or more options…” <blah blah bsomething mumble>16:10
cdentor “if you come to us with some choices, it will be like so much easier…”16:11
elmikoi will certinaly go back and make it more clear that teams with specific requests will be given priority over general "is it gud?" questions16:11
edleafeOooh... I like it! Makes it sound like there will be a line down the hallway waiting to get in16:12
elmikoright16:12
elmikomakes no sense to spend an entire session look at one entire api when we could answer several smaller questions in the same time16:12
cdentr i gud? u r gud.16:12
elmikoexactly16:12
cdentthey’re good apis lmeeeko16:13
elmikowould it be easier to review and collaborate on this document if i try to make it a review in gerrit to the specs repo or something?16:13
dtantsurLOL16:13
cdentyeah, elmiko, we can make it a sort of guideline itself16:13
dtantsur++ for a review for anything16:13
elmikoindeed, they are... /me pats on head gently16:13
elmikook16:14
edleafeno, not a guideline - those get permanently published16:14
edleafejust a note of some sort16:14
elmikoyeah16:14
elmikolike one of the extra docs we have on the specs repo16:14
elmikohmm16:15
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elmikoi thought about this while writing it, that wiki is terrible for collaborating with review16:15
elmikobut i wanted to get something started16:15
cdentI was thinking that permanently published is a good thing: as in “this is a thing we do at ptgs”16:15
cdentwhen ptgs stop or we stop going to ptgs, then the guideline can be marked dead16:15
elmikoso, how about this:16:16
elmiko#action elmiko investigate moving the wiki guided review document into gerrit, somehow16:16
cdentyes16:16
elmikoack16:17
edleafekewl16:18
elmikook, then, any more on this topic?16:18
elmiko#topic open mic and new biz16:18
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elmikonothing on the agenda, any new biz to bring up?16:18
edleafenot from me16:19
cdentnor me, this phase of the cycle is very project oriented16:19
elmikocool16:19
elmiko#topic guidelines16:19
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elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:19
elmikowas there any movement since last meeting?16:19
elmikolooks like we're still waiting16:20
edleafeI admit to not having spent much time on any of those16:20
elmikolikewise, i used up my time last week writing the doc =(16:20
cdentI looked a couple days ago, and the main thing is mordred’s stuff and he’s actively implementing some of it in ksa at the moment, so productively distracted16:21
elmikogot it16:21
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elmikook, so for now we're kinda in a holding pattern unless we get some new work16:21
cdentyes16:22
elmiko#topic bug review16:22
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elmikoi'm guessing same story here, albeit with different main characters ;)16:22
elmiko#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg16:23
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elmikoat some point, maybe we should do a bug triage or something just to make sure all these are still relevant16:23
elmikopossibly plan a meeting to be a bug triage meeting and just spend the hour going through the list?16:24
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cdentthat’s a good idea, but I don’t reckon there’s that much of a rush. the last time we did a bug run was to create most of them based on the todo’s in the existing guidelines16:24
elmikook, i'm good with that too16:24
edleafeYeah, I keep thinking I should grab a TODO every now and then16:24
cdentpart of the current malaise is that edleafe and I are too wrapped up in placement related stuff16:24
edleafeThen other work gets in the way16:25
elmikoi feel ya, work... feh.16:25
elmikoi'm more or less completely enmeshed in kubernetes and spark stuff16:25
elmikook, moving along16:26
elmiko#topic weekly newsletter16:26
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cdentthere will be some surfacing in a week or two? (Im unsure when feature freeze is)16:26
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter16:26
elmikocool16:26
cdentI guess it is probably my turn?16:26
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elmikothat would be grand, thank you sir16:26
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edleafeyes, thank you16:26
cdentwill ping for a proof16:27
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elmikoi will try to read it, but i'm doing another meeting after this for like 2 hours16:27
elmikoanything else to bring up?16:27
elmikoeveryone having a good thursday so far?16:27
cdentnothing else to bring16:28
cdentrelatively good thursday16:28
cdentmany bugs found16:28
elmikonice =)16:28
* edleafe pulls out empty pockets16:28
elmikohaha16:28
* elmiko gives edleafe a quarter for a cup of coffee16:28
elmikook, thanks everybody!16:28
elmiko#endmeeting16:28
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Jul 20 16:28:50 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:28
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-07-20-16.00.html16:28
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-07-20-16.00.txt16:28
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-07-20-16.00.log.html16:28
cdentthanks16:29
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