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| yamamoto | hi | 05:31 |
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| yamamoto | anyone around for taas meeting? | 05:32 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:34 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:34 |
| bennco1 | Hi | 05:34 |
| yamamoto | #startmeeting taas | 05:34 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 2 05:34:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamamoto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:34 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:34 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:34 |
| yamamoto | it seem we have no agenda on wiki today. | 05:35 |
| yamamoto | any topic? | 05:35 |
| kaz | i have no topic for today. | 05:36 |
| bennco1 | Seems like open forum | 05:36 |
| yamamoto | #topic Open Discussion | 05:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:36 | |
| yamamoto | sydney session voting is taking place. | 05:36 |
| yamamoto | there seems to be a few taas related ones | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19661 | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19105 | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19292 | 05:37 |
| kaz | i did not notice about the last one. | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | kaz: do you have a plan for dashboard for pike? | 05:44 |
| yamamoto | ie. if it can be released for pike | 05:44 |
| kaz | yamamoto: no, i don't. | 05:45 |
| yamamoto | does it have any todo? | 05:46 |
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| kaz | yamamoto: do you think what should we do for pike? | 05:49 |
| yamamoto | actually i have no idea. :-) | 05:49 |
| kaz | ok :) | 05:49 |
| yamamoto | if it works, we can release it as it is i guess | 05:49 |
| kaz | yes. | 05:50 |
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| yamamoto | any other topics? | 05:54 |
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| yamamoto | i guess i can give you back 30 mins. | 05:56 |
| yamamoto | thanks | 05:56 |
| yamamoto | #endmeeting | 05:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 2 05:56:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-08-02-05.34.html | 05:56 |
| bennco1 | Sounds good, enjoy | 05:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-08-02-05.34.txt | 05:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-08-02-05.34.log.html | 05:56 |
| kaz | bye | 05:56 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 12:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 2 12:01:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 12:01 |
| tonyb | #topic Roll-call | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll-call (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:01 | |
| coolsvap | o/ | 12:01 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis: ping | 12:01 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: you're quick! | 12:01 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:01 |
| coolsvap | tonyb: I was here only | 12:02 |
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| coolsvap | waiting for meeting to start | 12:02 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: :) I was 85seconds late starting ... bad tonyb | 12:02 |
| coolsvap | hehe nothing like that | 12:03 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: :) | 12:03 |
| tonyb | I'm going to mix up the order a little today | 12:03 |
| tonyb | #topic Freeze status | 12:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Freeze status (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:04 | |
| tonyb | Glance | 12:04 |
| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance_store+branch:stable/pike+topic:backports | 12:04 |
| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/requirements+is:open+starredby:tonyb | 12:04 |
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| tonyb | And that's all held up on a nova change | 12:05 |
| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/489078 | 12:05 |
| tonyb | So we need to decide pretty quick if we're still happy with that FFE | 12:05 |
| tonyb | thoughts? | 12:05 |
| tonyb | It's lots of stuff to land in a short window while we're trying to stabalise things | 12:06 |
| dirk | I'm pro the FFE but I don't have enough background | 12:06 |
| dirk | so I didn't comment on it | 12:06 |
| tonyb | ttx signed off on the FFE so it isn't a surprise to the release team | 12:06 |
| dirk | in general many of the g-r lower bounds might not be correct | 12:06 |
| tonyb | dirk: Agreed lower bounds is still a mess | 12:06 |
| dirk | at least I didn't do a systematic check if any req was touched since ocata | 12:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: You mean script something like if the specification for $library is the same in ocata and master warn? | 12:07 |
| dirk | yeap | 12:08 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay that'd be wasy to do | 12:08 |
| tonyb | if I get time I'll knock something up | 12:08 |
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| tonyb | It wouldn't even use that much data everythign will be right there in the git repo | 12:09 |
| tonyb | I think we're doing okay for FFEs we haven't has too many and only 3 real ones IIRC | 12:10 |
| tonyb | I guess there's a potential FFE coming for python-barbicanclient 4.5.2 | 12:11 |
| coolsvap | yes | 12:11 |
| tonyb | We need dave-mcgowan to reply to my question on os-dev | 12:11 |
| tonyb | I think that about covers the freeze | 12:12 |
| tonyb | the thaw ... well that's another matter ;P | 12:12 |
| tonyb | I'll talk to ttx and dhellmann about thier thoughts on how long we're fozen for to accomodate the cycle-trainling projects | 12:14 |
| tonyb | I feel like we need to be frozen until everything else is branched but that's a long time | 12:14 |
| tonyb | thoughts? | 12:14 |
| coolsvap | I think we can work with time | 12:16 |
| tonyb | okay | 12:16 |
| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 12:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:16 | |
| * coolsvap would like to understand what others also feel about it | 12:17 | |
| tonyb | Well the queue is basically blocked but is there anything in there that we shoudl think about befoer the thaw? | 12:17 |
| coolsvap | nope | 12:18 |
| tonyb | cool | 12:18 |
| tonyb | #topic Election | 12:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Election (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:18 | |
| tonyb | So as I said I'm not standing for PTL | 12:19 |
| tonyb | so y'all need to think about how you want to handle that. | 12:19 |
| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 12:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:20 | |
| tonyb | anything? Or should we get to breakfast/lunch/dinner/bed as appropriate? | 12:20 |
| tonyb | man we really do cover the world with this meeting ;p | 12:20 |
| coolsvap | hmm we can continue with our stuff I guess | 12:21 |
| coolsvap | this timing is good | 12:21 |
| tonyb | okay | 12:21 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 12:22 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 12:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:22 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 2 12:22:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:22 |
| coolsvap | thanks tonyb | 12:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-08-02-12.01.html | 12:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-08-02-12.01.txt | 12:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-08-02-12.01.log.html | 12:22 |
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| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Who's around for the publiccloud-wg meeting? | 14:02 |
| Labedz | hello | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | Hi Labedz | 14:02 |
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| tobberydberg | Let's wait a couple of minutes and hope that some more join | 14:03 |
| Labedz | sure | 14:03 |
| Labedz | BTW as I've noticed we are taling about our needs for features | 14:04 |
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| Labedz | any plans to think about bugs? :) | 14:04 |
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| Labedz | I guess we are all impacted by the same issues… | 14:04 |
| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | Absolutely! I believe that could be in the same document... | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | hi pilgrimstack | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | hi mrhillsman | 14:05 |
| Labedz | tobberydberg: ok then, I'll fill some space there | 14:06 |
| Labedz | :) | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | welcome! =) Now we are a few here so lets start the meeting | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | Good! | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 2 14:06:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:06 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:06 |
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| tobberydberg | Agenda at #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | o/ | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | Please fill in your name as well! | 14:07 |
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| tobberydberg | hi zhipeng | 14:07 |
| zhipeng | hey tobbias :) | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | 1. The UC accepted our WG - we're now official! | 14:07 |
| zhipeng | wow ! | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. The UC accepted our WG - we're now official! | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "1. The UC accepted our WG - we're now official! (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:08 | |
| zhipeng | job well done everyone ! | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | So, I'm happy to tell you that we were accepted on Mondays meeting! Well done all! | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | I believe an official announcement will be sent out to the mailing list as well | 14:09 |
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| mrhillsman | Yes, I will do that tiday | 14:09 |
| mrhillsman | today | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | I planned to attend that meeting, but had a last minute thing that happened so wasn't able to make it, sorry for that mrhillsman | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | nice, thanks! | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | No worries | 14:10 |
| zhipeng | mrhillsman thx ! | 14:10 |
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| mrhillsman | very welcome | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg will change status to active at Wiki =) | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | thank you all for the hard work | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | Next topic | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Review last meeting's action points | 14:12 |
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| tobberydberg | We have some...first, "Sean to make a spec for the OpenStack passport" | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | He wasn't able to make today, but I have some information here | 14:13 |
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| tobberydberg | It's work in progress ... have done some work here to get repo up etc, but no spec done for OpenStack Passport | 14:14 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | hi yankcrime | 14:14 |
| yankcrime | sorry, previous meeting overran | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | np | 14:14 |
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| tobberydberg | b. seans as well .... I added the link to the draft that he did during last meeting...thats the latest in that as well... | 14:15 |
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| tobberydberg | c. yankcrime - update wiki - status? | 14:15 |
| yankcrime | i've added a section with a couple of sentences - i'll continue to expand on it when more thoughts occur | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | tobberydberg do you know where we could find the WIP material from Sean ? | 14:16 |
| yankcrime | tbh the most important thing for me was the addition of the 'scope' section with what we're actually working towards | 14:16 |
| yankcrime | as well as links to the relevant google docs / sheets | 14:16 |
| yankcrime | which someone else had already added, so i'm relatively happy for now! | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | agree yankcrime - thanks | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | I think I added some goals some time ago | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | I will check zhipeng | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | zhipeng: https://github.com/seanhandley/passport | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489548/ | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | Is that what you are asking for? | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | And that one as well yes =) | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://github.com/seanhandley/passport | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | sorry :) | 14:19 |
| zhipeng | thx mrhillsman :) | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | so, wiki is fine for now, agree on that | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | d. Sean and zhipeng - status already in the agenda... | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | Nothin new, but we keep that as AP for upcoming meeting... I'm sure we can be more that help out as soon as we have some first draft up | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | want to add someting to that zhipeng? | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | nothing from my side | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | ok | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | will think about the content and sync up with Sean | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | sounds good | 14:22 |
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| pilgrimstack | Does it mean we will wait for those whiteboard sessions to continue working on passport? | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | #topic OpenStack Passport Scheme | 14:23 |
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| tobberydberg | no, here it comes =) | 14:23 |
| pilgrimstack | ok great :) | 14:23 |
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| tobberydberg | I guess we will have a lot to discuss about passport at the whiteboard sessions as well though =) | 14:24 |
| yankcrime | whiteboard session at ptg? | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | We have a couple of discussion points here at the agenta...feel free to add more | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | was thinking whiteboard sessions in London and Copenhagen... | 14:25 |
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| zhipeng | i think we should devide the process into different stages | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | not sure how many of us that will attend the PTG.... We checked that some meeting and wasn't many... | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | I should be there at Denver | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | I will be there | 14:26 |
| yankcrime | yeah, we won't be at the next PTG | 14:26 |
| yankcrime | need to save our pennies for sydney ;) | 14:26 |
| pilgrimstack | what do you think about creating the specs for the first step | 14:26 |
| pilgrimstack | ? | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | hehehe | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | We asked if any WGs needed space, was it already requested? | 14:27 |
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| mrhillsman | Organizers asked UC if we needed space again yesterday | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | If not already requested I can let them know to reserve | 14:28 |
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| pilgrimstack | what do you mean by space? git/gerrit repo? | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | Sean is working on getting a spec up i believe | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | A room at the PTG | 14:29 |
| pilgrimstack | ah ^^ok | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | pilgrimstack: I meant that by the work that Sean is doing | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | a. Discuss criteria for joining the scheme (commitment to number of signups, amount of money, etc). This probably needs adding to the spec. | 14:30 |
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| zhipeng | like Interop WG is always piggybacking on refstack | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | Could we use other team's room together ? mrhillsman, like Interop WG is always piggybacking on refstack | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | So, there will be a lot more stuff to do than just creation of the central service it self =) | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | Sure if that has been arranged but Interop and refstack are intertwined so it makes sense they use the same room | 14:31 |
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| tobberydberg | Do we have any ideas/suggestions of criterias for signing up for this as a public cloud provider? | 14:32 |
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| tobberydberg | If so, please edit etherpad as well | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | very quite =) | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 14:34 |
| pilgrimstack | like for interop challenge? Just a table in the wiki | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | either way, will have to specify some requirements | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | and I guess this will affect the implementation as well.... | 14:35 |
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| mrhillsman | Yeah, possibly based on the actual implementation | 14:35 |
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| mrhillsman | In part at least | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | considering what will happen when € XXX have been used at one single provider? | 14:36 |
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| tobberydberg | I guess each single provider will have a limit of resources and money to "give away" to the passport service? | 14:37 |
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| tobberydberg | So, some "commit amount" | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | Thoughts? | 14:37 |
| pilgrimstack | yep | 14:37 |
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| mrhillsman | That should probably be one so no one provider had the advantage of giving away more | 14:37 |
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| tobberydberg | hmm....well, does that matter if the numbers isn't official? | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | Or being part of effort only in name and not giving enough | 14:38 |
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| pilgrimstack | in term of communication I think it matters | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | Communication to the users? | 14:39 |
| pilgrimstack | yes | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | When they try to use the cupon? | 14:39 |
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| pilgrimstack | could we start something simple like a google doc, and the price from all of us for a defined configuration good enough to test OpenStack | 14:40 |
| pilgrimstack | ? | 14:40 |
| pilgrimstack | like: 1 week of 2 small insatnces and one bigger, with 200GB volume, 200GB swift | 14:41 |
| pilgrimstack | something like that | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | could be added as a separate column in the existing spreadsheet? | 14:42 |
| pilgrimstack | and every cloud provider will put the price for that in a commun google doc, then we should be able to see if their is something in commun | 14:42 |
| pilgrimstack | for exemple | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | sure | 14:43 |
| pilgrimstack | sorry guys, I have to rush somewhere else, I'll check the etherpad tomorrow | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | thanks for today pilgrimstack | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | ok | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | this discussion will continue...but lets touch the other topics as well | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | b. documentaion | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | To make it easy for the end users we will have to have some kind of documentaion of how to use these codes | 14:46 |
| yankcrime | a landing page on openstack.org listing participating public cloud providers would be nice | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | just what I added at the etherpad =) | 14:48 |
| yankcrime | gmta! | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | so +1 to that | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | =) | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | ok, moving on...just add to etherpad if something comes up | 14:49 |
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| tobberydberg | c. That is a little like your (e) zhipeng - how should the release schedule look like | 14:50 |
| zhipeng | yep | 14:50 |
| zhipeng | another question on the nordic meetup | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | is it possible to have visa invitation letter ? | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | from the OpenStack Day Nordic organizers ? | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | I agree on that, and I think that next EU (in a year) we should have something that is working all the way and ready for Keynote Showcase | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | Thoughts about that everyone? | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng: I guess that will not be an issue | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | Will ask a colleague if he has some standard, otherwise we fix something. That goes of course for everone that needs it... | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | tobberydberg gr8t ! :) | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | plz email me if there is a link or someone I need to contact to get the letter :) | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | not that many thoughts about that =) ... etherpad exists after meeting ... =) | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | sure zhipeng | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | Everything else on this topic is slightly about the release schedule and we were out of thought there =) | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | 5 minutes for others | 14:55 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Other matters | 14:56 |
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| tobberydberg | Labedz: Bugs in our 'feature' list | 14:56 |
| Labedz | yeap | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | We touched that before the meeting | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | +1 to that | 14:56 |
| Labedz | just wanted to mentioned that I'd like to share not only features needed | 14:56 |
| Labedz | but also fixes ;) | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | can be a category/tag whatever to beeing able to filter | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | Labedz that would be a great idea | 14:56 |
| Labedz | and how we deal with it | 14:57 |
| Labedz | like: some workaround or in dev in master | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | And, create them in to official ones as well | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | do you have a few to add already Labedz? | 14:58 |
| Labedz | started with first one | 14:58 |
| Labedz | row 25 | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | Perfect, thanks! | 14:58 |
| Labedz | then it will flow… | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | One thing from me....if someone plans to go to Copenhagen (OpenStack Days Nordic) - I have discount codes for everyone in publiccloud-wg | 14:59 |
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| tobberydberg | Will add that to the "meetup" zhipeng created as well | 14:59 |
| Labedz | cool | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | something else before we close the store? | 14:59 |
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| tobberydberg | time is up! Thank you all for today and talk in two weeks! Please check in #openstack-publiccloud channel from time to time as well | 15:01 |
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| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 2 15:01:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-08-02-14.06.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-08-02-14.06.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-08-02-14.06.log.html | 15:01 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 2 16:01:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| hogepodge | hi! | 16:01 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.10 | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:02 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | Anyone else here for interop wg meeting? | 16:02 |
| eglute | please update agenda as needed: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.10 | 16:02 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 16:03 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:04 | |
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| eglute | reminder, we will be at PTG, please add your name to the etherpad if you are planning on attending: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG | 16:04 |
| eglute | also please add suggested topics | 16:04 |
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| eglute | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2017.08 Guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
| catherineD | eglute: I assume Interop-wg and Refstack will share the same room as we did last time? | 16:05 |
| eglute | catherineD correct! | 16:05 |
| eglute | at least, i think that's what i requested | 16:05 |
| catherineD | great so we will use the same etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG | 16:06 |
| eglute | sounds good! | 16:06 |
| eglute | yes, on the schedule we are together | 16:06 |
| catherineD | also do we know the head count so far? | 16:06 |
| eglute | no, that's why I am asking people to add themselves to the list | 16:07 |
| catherineD | the etherpad has 4 names so far | 16:07 |
| eglute | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG | 16:07 |
| eglute | right, i hope there will be more :) | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | Six now :-D | 16:07 |
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| catherineD | ic thx :-) | 16:07 |
| eglute | catherineD are you going to attend? | 16:07 |
| catherineD | eglute: yea waiting for travek approval | 16:08 |
| eglute | hope you get it catherineD | 16:08 |
| catherineD | just update the ehterpad | 16:08 |
| eglute | thanks catherineD | 16:09 |
| catherineD | eglute: thank YOU! | 16:09 |
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| eglute | hogepodge do you have edit access to this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/edit#gid=397241312 | 16:09 |
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| eglute | or anyone? need to add ehterpad link | 16:09 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:10 |
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| mrhillsman | eglute nope | 16:10 |
| catherineD | strange that everyone appears as anonymous even that I am login at gmail | 16:11 |
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| catherineD | eglute: nope for me too on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/edit#gid=397241312 | 16:11 |
| eglute | catherineD same here! i dont understand how that works. | 16:11 |
| eglute | ok, i will find someone with access later to get that updated | 16:12 |
| eglute | anything else on PTG? | 16:12 |
| mrhillsman | kendall nelson can update it eglute | 16:12 |
| eglute | catherineD please ask RefStack people to use the etherpad :) | 16:12 |
| catherineD | mrhillsman: I think so | 16:12 |
| eglute | mrhillsman thanks, i will email her after the meeting! | 16:13 |
| catherineD | catherineD: will do | 16:13 |
| mrhillsman | very welcome | 16:13 |
| eglute | anything else on PTG? | 16:13 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:13 |
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| eglute | so i think we still need to add all the aliases to this guideline, i have not had a chance to look | 16:14 |
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| eglute | any volunteers to review the differences between next.json and 2017.08? | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | I can do it alongside other work I have on this today | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | Luz had a patch in last week to reconcile some of those | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485438/ | 16:15 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:15 |
| eglute | oh thats right. I think we just need to confirm that none slipped | 16:15 |
| eglute | thanks to LuzC for doing the work! | 16:15 |
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| eglute | anything else on 2017.08? | 16:16 |
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| markvoelker | eglute: do we have a timeslot at the BoD meeting in Denver? | 16:17 |
| mrhillsman | have to run but will catch up on the logs | 16:17 |
| eglute | markvoelker not yet, but i will ask for it | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | thanks | 16:17 |
| eglute | also there is a meeting this month as well | 16:17 |
| eglute | so i will ask the board to approve the 2017.08 guideline | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | next in 2.0 format? | 16:18 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: no | 16:18 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think it needs to be converted... | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | I think we'd agreed before that 2017.08 would be in 1.x but we should shift next.json over to 2.0. | 16:18 |
| catherineD | please do not add any json with 2.0 format until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484625/ is merged at RefStack | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | ah, ok | 16:19 |
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| eglute | anything else on the 2017.08? | 16:20 |
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| eglute | #topic Add get catalog capability as advisory | 16:22 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485415/ | 16:22 |
| eglute | please review, everyone | 16:22 |
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| eglute | #topic Schema 2.0 | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Schema 2.0 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:23 | |
| hogepodge | thanks to luzC and mguiney for making that possible! | 16:23 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430556/ was merged | 16:23 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge for working on it!!! | 16:23 |
| eglute | yes, thank you all! | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | haha things for finishing it off eglute | 16:23 |
| eglute | yeah, i had the hardest part ;) :D | 16:24 |
| eglute | anyways, next! | 16:24 |
| eglute | #topic Extension programs | 16:24 |
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| eglute | hogepodge i think thats you correct | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | yes | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | I have links to the documents that designate and heat provided | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | #link Designate https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DNS-InterOp-Capabilities | 16:26 |
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| hogepodge | #link Heat https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pSLeUm2rc8tjGQiMMAloGgOl_U1LHrxgsyJbbC2YEJA/edit | 16:26 |
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| hogepodge | These are the two that I want to get up for advisory before the next meeting. Time is short, but my goal is to get them up for review in before end of day tomorrow | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | To present to the board as advisory. | 16:27 |
| eglute | hogepodge next meeting this month or in september | 16:27 |
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| hogepodge | August board meeting, along with 2017.08 guideline. Although I suppose we could ask for more runway and do September | 16:27 |
| eglute | will these be in schema 2.0? | 16:27 |
| hogepodge | Yes | 16:28 |
| mguiney | awesome | 16:28 |
| hogepodge | They have to be, since 1.x doesn't have the necessary mechanics | 16:28 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think this month is doable. | 16:28 |
| eglute | if you submit the patches :) | 16:28 |
| eglute | in the links provided, anything controversial in your opinion? | 16:28 |
| hogepodge | haha yes, I have been unreliable in my time estimates. No excuses on a big push today though. ;-) | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Do you happen to recall off the top of your head what resources are covered in heat_integrationtests.scenario.test_base_resources.BasicResourcesTest.test_base_resources_integration? If not I'll go look, that just seems the mostly likely spot for conversation to occur. | 16:29 |
| hogepodge | I don't | 16:29 |
| zhipeng | do we have the heat patch on the gerrit ? | 16:29 |
| Rockyg | looks like just google at the moment, zhipeng | 16:30 |
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| hogepodge | when the reviews are up I'll notify the dev and interop mailing lists | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, I'll go pick at it then. Just want to see what we're testing there and how it compares to what we're testing in Powered. | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | yes. It's a scenario test too, so we will want to think about if it should be admitted | 16:31 |
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| hogepodge | that's all I have at the moment | 16:33 |
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| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:33 |
| eglute | so do you think you will have these in a gerrit today/tomorrow? | 16:33 |
| * eglute wishes she could see people type | 16:35 | |
| eglute | #action hogepodge to put DNS and heat extensions into gerrit patches | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | yes | 16:35 |
| eglute | hogepodge could you please send out email to mailing list(s) once they are in patches? would like broader community review | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | yes | 16:36 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:36 |
| eglute | #topic Vertical Programs | 16:37 |
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| eglute | any updates on these? or postpone to PTG? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | Not much to update here as we've deferred most of this to PTG. I'll come to Denver with a list of some potential capabilities, but I expect this is one where we'll need to start pretty small and gradually build up. "NFV" is just a really big surface area.=) | 16:38 |
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| eglute | sorry, my internet went on a brake | 16:41 |
| eglute | anyways, i need to update the draft completely, i will work with catherineD and hogepodge and markvoelker on it. | 16:42 |
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| catherineD | eglute: that is a also a good discussion for the PTG | 16:42 |
| eglute | catherineD just to be clear, we are asking taht people submit subunit results to refstack, correct? | 16:43 |
| catherineD | yes | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | mguiney has a review up for it | 16:43 |
| catherineD | eglute: I think you were thinking about a complete set of API test? | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480298/ | 16:43 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge and mguiney | 16:44 |
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| hogepodge | I can understand wanting more test data, but it's difficult to define "complete" outside of what is required by interop wg | 16:44 |
| catherineD | Since the initial decsion to upload only passing data is made by the DefCore team | 16:44 |
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| catherineD | It would be nice to have Interop-WG's stand for the revise decision | 16:44 |
| eglute | so looking at the refstack patch, subunit results will be optional? | 16:44 |
| catherineD | RefStack will take care of the technical stuff | 16:44 |
| catherineD | yea | 16:45 |
| eglute | we can start with optional and have a date when it will become mandatory | 16:45 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: +1 | 16:45 |
| catherineD | but the fact that this will be the first time ever RefStrack provide such feature | 16:45 |
| catherineD | eglute: hogepodge: whatever the decision just need a position statement from the Interop-WG | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | optional would solve a big problem that I have with helping out vendors who need me to look at underlying test issues | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I can work with you to redraft your statement | 16:46 |
| eglute | catherineD thanks, i am ok with interop wg saying that they will be mandatory starting at some date and optional as soon as refstack implements | 16:46 |
| eglute | hogepodge thank you | 16:46 |
| catherineD | since the initial decision was as requested by the DefCore | 16:46 |
| catherineD | tam | 16:46 |
| eglute | catherineD also sent some comments too | 16:46 |
| catherineD | eglute: Thank you! | 16:47 |
| eglute | what do others think on making subunit results optional/mandatory? | 16:47 |
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| markvoelker | Mandatory is hard, but I'm a little afraid optional means we just won't get any results. | 16:47 |
| Rockyg | optional is fine. Manadtory would need board approval and our submitting to board | 16:48 |
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| markvoelker | I'm not opposed to optional, but I think we need some clear guidance...e.g. instructions on how to configure it, maybe even a warning if you run it configured for a subset? | 16:48 |
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| hogepodge | I don't think it's hard. I think it's necessary. We already have the data, it can be securely transmitted and stored, and it removes the major avenue for potential cheating. | 16:48 |
| Rockyg | carrot for optional could be help from hogepodge | 16:48 |
| catherineD | The main concern is about privacy of the data | 16:48 |
| Rockyg | no subunit, really hard to help, plus lower priority | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | that's a false concern, we've gone to great lengths to debunk that | 16:49 |
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| catherineD | that is the main reason DefCore based on to make the decision at the time | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | transmitted over ssl, on database controlled by infra with appropriate NDAs, tempest subunit does not leak sensitive information | 16:49 |
| catherineD | it could be change now .. but it needs to be documented | 16:50 |
| catherineD | privacy in the aspect of involuntary or unknowly reveal of privacy data ... | 16:51 |
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| eglute | ok, so to start with, we will have it optional for now, and will try to address any concerns as they arise | 16:51 |
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| eglute | since data would be available only to foundation, hopefully thats not too big of an issue | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | I can write up a patch if it satisfies a desire for documentation, but this is a conversation we keep having in the meetings. | 16:52 |
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| hogepodge | I'll formalize it. | 16:52 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: ++++ | 16:52 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:52 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: I saw a speaker section at ths summit for the topic ... did you submit that? | 16:53 |
| eglute | #action hogepodge write up a documentation patch for optional subunit results | 16:53 |
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| catherineD | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19389 | 16:54 |
| eglute | catherineD interesting, wonder why no speaker info | 16:54 |
| eglute | catherineD i would have assumed it was either you or hogepodge | 16:55 |
| catherineD | maybe because it is an upstream session? | 16:55 |
| catherineD | not me ... However, I think it would be a good discussion | 16:56 |
| Rockyg | yeah. maybe markvoelker ? | 16:56 |
| hogepodge | I think that's mguiney | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | not me | 16:56 |
| eglute | heh, thanks mguiney | 16:57 |
| Rockyg | ah. that would be good. | 16:57 |
| eglute | good topic, glad it is someone from this group | 16:57 |
| catherineD | yea thanks | 16:57 |
| catherineD | I voted for it .. | 16:57 |
| eglute | anything else regarding subunit results? | 16:58 |
| eglute | almost out of time too | 16:58 |
| eglute | if not, thanks everyone! | 16:58 |
| eglute | if there is something we haven't covered, ping me on interop channel | 16:59 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 2 16:59:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-08-02-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-08-02-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-08-02-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 2 20:03:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | hihi | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | sorry for being a few minutes late | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | anyone about? Or is it just us today ying_zuo ? | 20:07 |
| ying_zuo | :p | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:07 |
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| david-lyle | but I don't have anything to discuss | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | haha | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | Okay, I'll just fire off a couple of notice sin case people read the logs | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-queens | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | We need to get some planning done for the Queens PTG, so I've just put up that etherpad | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Feel free to add info to it | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | #info RC1 target date is Aug 10. Just over another week for bugfixes. | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | #info RC2 is usually just translations, and shouldn't be relied upon as "extra time" :) | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Also on the PTG front, I believe the travel support program is still open until this weekend if you can't get there otherwise. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | That's everything from me | 20:13 |
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| robcresswell | Any other notices? | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:16 |
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| robcresswell | I'll leave the meeting running for 5 / 10 mins for anyone to drop by. If you have any questions / patches / bugs / blueprints etc, fire away :) | 20:16 |
| ying_zuo | I would appreciate more reviews on these patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482378/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481794/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478720 | 20:17 |
| gokhan | hi, If it is proper or suitable, can I share our safir-monitor-dashboard which is horizon angular plugin in there? | 20:18 |
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| robcresswell | ying_zuo: Will check them out, thanks | 20:18 |
| ying_zuo | thanks robcresswell | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | gokhan: Sure, go ahead | 20:19 |
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| gokhan | we developed an AngularJS based usage monitoring panel for Horizon. The panel visualizes the collected utilization data by Ceilometer. | 20:19 |
| gokhan | All comments and ideas are welcome! | 20:20 |
| gokhan | and we apply sydney summit for a session | 20:20 |
| gokhan | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19482 | 20:20 |
| gokhan | source code is in github | 20:21 |
| ying_zuo | I voted would love to see on that one :) | 20:21 |
| gokhan | #link https://github.com/b3lab/safir_monitor_dashboard | 20:22 |
| gokhan | we would be pleased if you have any ideas or comments | 20:22 |
| gokhan | thanks ying_zuo | 20:23 |
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| gokhan | We are also currently improving some features | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | gokhan: I'll take a look tomorrow, thanks | 20:23 |
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| gokhan | thanks robcresswell :) | 20:24 |
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| robcresswell | Alright, I think we can call it there | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | thanks everyone | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 2 20:29:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-08-02-20.03.html | 20:29 |
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