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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 3 15:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
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| davidsha | Hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair haleyb Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb mlavalle | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi davidsha | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| mlavalle | So we are past Pike-3 | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | and we are in in the feature freeze period | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | If you have any exceptions to file, this is the moment | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | you need to send an email like the following: | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/120310.html | 15:04 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: thanks for the link | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements from the team? | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:06 | |
| mlavalle | Swami go ahead, please | 15:06 |
| Swami | mlavalle: sure | 15:06 |
| Swami | There is one new bug that has been filed against DVR. | 15:06 |
| Swami | This was discussed briefly last week by haleyb | 15:07 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1707003 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1707003 in neutron "gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-ha-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv job has a very high failure rate" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:07 |
| Swami | Multinode job gate failure. | 15:07 |
| haleyb | there is a patch up for that, hang on | 15:08 |
| Swami | I have not drilled deep into the issue yet. | 15:08 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:08 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/488381/ | 15:08 |
| haleyb | it's not a neutron issue as far as we know, it's that devstack needs to wait for the sub-nodes to "come alive" | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:09 |
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| Swami | haleyb: good will take a look at it. | 15:09 |
| haleyb | Seems the plan is to merge after RC1 | 15:10 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok. | 15:10 |
| haleyb | if the job still fails then it's our fault :( | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | well, ultimately we are responsible for that job | 15:10 |
| Swami | haleyb: I did see the multinode job fail in one of RFE patch from yesterday. | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | the buck stops here | 15:11 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:11 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1702790 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1702790 in neutron "DVR Router update task fails when agent restarts" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:11 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks for the update on this patch. | 15:11 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481321/ | 15:11 |
| Swami | This patch needs review. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | yes, i dumped what ip_lib was generating for ip rules and noticed it found it, but the dict had more info that we were matching | 15:12 |
| haleyb | so the match failed | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I'll help to move it along today | 15:12 |
| Swami | haleyb: good information. | 15:12 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:13 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/ | 15:13 |
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| Swami | The server side patch has merged. This is the client side patch. | 15:13 |
| Swami | Need reviews on this patch to get it merged. This was targeted for Pike. | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | Swami, haleyb: is this affected by the feature freeze? | 15:14 |
| Swami | mlavalle: Do we need an exception for this patch. Exactly I have the same question. | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | I would err on the side of caution and send an email | 15:14 |
| haleyb | I think we do since I merged something else right after Pike-3 and got a slap on the wrist for it | 15:14 |
| Swami | mlavalle: ok will send an email. | 15:14 |
| * mlavalle saw the slap, that is why I am asking | 15:15 | |
| haleyb | I think it's good to go, i had addressed all the nits i found :) | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | I agree | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok will send an official email right now. | 15:15 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:16 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] Allow DVR for E/W while leaving N/S centralized" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:16 |
| Swami | The patch is up for review. | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | is the plan here to press to merge in Pike? | 15:16 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485333/ | 15:16 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: I am not sure. The first agent patch would have the higher priority then this one. But since they both address similar problems I would include both. | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | do you feel ready to request an exception? | 15:18 |
| Swami | Still need reviews on this patch. | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks for your reviews and I have addressed all your review comments. | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | yeah, we can review regardless, just maybe not merge if you don't request an exception | 15:18 |
| Swami | mlavalle: yes it is ready and good to go. But I will recheck the jenkins failure on the multinode job. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | Swami: thanks, i will get around to it again | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | sounds like a plan | 15:19 |
| Swami | mlavalle: Sure I will go ahead and request an exception. | 15:19 |
| Swami | mlavalle: That's all I had. | 15:19 |
| Swami | mlavalle: back to you. | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | Thans Swami ! | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | First one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1683227 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1683227 in neutron "test_legacy_router test cases sometimes fail with: Cannot find device "qg-*" when moving it into a namespace" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | This is the 21st day without any hist in Kibana for this bug | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | so I am ready to close it, unless there is oposition | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | something must have changed with the OVS version we are using in CI testing | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:22 |
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| mlavalle | I take the silence as a vote of confidence from the team | 15:23 |
| davidsha | \o/ | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1707381 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1707381 in neutron "Differece behavior about enable subnet service types scenario" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6) | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | This is a low priority bug that I want to discuss with the team | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | it seems to me it is not a bug | 15:24 |
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| haleyb | I agree (now), see my last comment | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | Yeah, it is the documented behavior here | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/config-service-subnets.html#operation | 15:25 |
| haleyb | any port can allocate an IP from the "none" subnet type | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | so I plan to add a sentence to the end of the last line in that section to make it even clearer | 15:26 |
| haleyb | sounds good | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | and I alread -2 the patchset | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | thanks haleyb | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | I don't have any other bugs for today | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs from the team? | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | #topic DNS | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DNS (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:28 | |
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| mlavalle | I want one last patchset waiting to merge in the dns_domain for ports series: | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468697/ | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | I request a FFE a couple of days ago for this | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | yesterday responded to haleyb's comments. Thanks for the review! | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | and while doing that, amotoki made a few more comments | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | which I will address in a bit | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:32 | |
| mlavalle | I pushed another revision for the floating IPs for routed networks spec | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | that reflects the conversation we had last Friday | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | I will complete today and tomorrow the rest of the boilerpalte regarding changes to DB, API, contributors etc | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | but before removing the WIP and request wider feedback, I would like to see what the team thinks of the latest revision | 15:34 |
| Swami | mlavalle: yes will take a look at it today. | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | During annoucements I forgot to point out the Neutron PTG etherpad here: | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-queens-ptg | 15:36 |
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| mlavalle | maybe Swami wants to add his name at the end ;-) | 15:37 |
| Swami | mlavalle: sure, still waiting for confirmation. May be will get some info this week. | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | any other topics? | 15:37 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: nothing else. | 15:38 |
| Swami | mlavalle: haleyb: I have sent the FFE request for the topics that we discussed. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | thanks Swami ! | 15:38 |
| haleyb | great, thanks | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | ok team, thanks for attending. Returning a whopping 20 minutes to your agendas | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 3 15:39:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| Swami | bye | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-03-15.00.html | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-03-15.00.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-03-15.00.log.html | 15:39 |
| davidsha | cya | 15:39 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 3 16:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chair edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
| cdent | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| cdent | #topic old biz | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "old biz (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:01 | |
| cdent | #link old minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-07-27-16.00.html | 16:01 |
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| cdent | elmiko: has the action to create a thing and he did! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487847/ | 16:01 |
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| * edleafe pats elmiko on the back | 16:02 | |
| elmiko | i missed dtantsur's comments by about 1 minute when i pushed rev 4, i'm gonna fold them into the next rev | 16:02 |
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| cdent | and we saw it and said it was good | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | cool | 16:02 |
| elmiko | but, i think he raises a good question about storing the results | 16:02 |
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| cdent | oh yeah, publishing is a great point | 16:02 |
| cdent | dtantsur++ | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | :) | 16:02 |
| elmiko | how should we approach that though? (email, wiki, etc) | 16:03 |
| elmiko | i'm just thinking what should go in the review process doc | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | email or the api-wg repo, I would say | 16:03 |
| cdent | in the repo I would think | 16:03 |
| elmiko | is that the guidance repo, or? | 16:04 |
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| cdent | perhapd as clarifications/examples on existing guidelines? or maybe simply as a separate collection of concrete examples with links? | 16:04 |
| cdent | I think in the guidance somewhere is right | 16:04 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 16:04 |
| elmiko | i kinda lean towards having them as separate docs | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | we may link to them from guidelines as examples, when appropriate | 16:05 |
| elmiko | i feel like maintaining the linkage between reviews and guidelines might become cumbersome | 16:05 |
| elmiko | for sure, as long as it doesn't incur a crazy amount of tech debt | 16:05 |
| edleafe | So sort of a "war stories" document? | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | yeah, i think so | 16:06 |
| elmiko | the cross-linkage thing, while it would be awesome, i just worry about the long tail | 16:06 |
| cdent | yeah, war stories sounds right/good | 16:06 |
| cdent | and less effortful than integrated with existing guidelines | 16:07 |
| cdent | if we make it too effortful, nothing will happen | 16:07 |
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| elmiko | hehe, agreed | 16:08 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: is "war stories" understandable? | 16:08 |
| cdent | I don’t think we should use that term | 16:08 |
| elmiko | no no, something more like "case studies" | 16:08 |
| edleafe | well not in the doc | 16:08 |
| edleafe | I meant for the purposes of this discussion | 16:08 |
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| elmiko | oh yeah | 16:08 |
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| dtantsur | edleafe: tbe first time I hear this term, but don't rely on my English :) | 16:10 |
| elmiko | ok, so i'll put up some changes after the meeting incorporating dtantsur's nits and what we are talking about | 16:10 |
| edleafe | "Case studies" sounds too formal. Maybe just "discussion archive" | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | +1, i'll go more that direction edleafe | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | "Stone tablets of inevitable awesomeness" | 16:11 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:11 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: as soon as I wrote it I thought it may not translate well | 16:11 |
| cdent | we’ll figure it out, and if we find we no likie, we can change | 16:11 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: but I like your suggestion! | 16:11 |
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| cdent | #action elmiko to continue with review process doc | 16:12 |
| cdent | #topic new biz | 16:12 |
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| cdent | #link Do we become a SIG? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2017-July/000022.html | 16:12 |
| cdent | are people aware of that thread? | 16:12 |
| * dtantsur is | 16:13 | |
| edleafe | me too | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | I think we're a good example of a SIG, actually | 16:13 |
| elmiko | i read some of it | 16:13 |
| elmiko | yeah, i don't see any reason not to become a sig | 16:13 |
| cdent | dtantsur: me too, until ttx said moving our mail to the -sig list. At that point I thought “hmm, there goes our main audience” | 16:13 |
| elmiko | but, i admit i might be missing some nuanced level of this process | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | mmmmmm | 16:14 |
| elmiko | like that detail | 16:14 |
| edleafe | it does seem like for us it would be not much more than a name change | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | I missed this bit. Why can't we use [tags] like everyone? | 16:14 |
| cdent | I don’t know that there is much nuance. It is just a shuffling of pieces on the board to try to draw more attention to the need for boundary blurring | 16:14 |
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| elmiko | ahh, gotcha | 16:14 |
| edleafe | cdent: we could move internal stuff to -sig, but weekly updates should still go to -dev | 16:14 |
| edleafe | (as if we have much internal email discussion) | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | do we have much internal stuff? | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | aja | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | * aha | 16:15 |
| cdent | edleafe: but then we’re not doing the desired boundary blurring. As the intention is to reach a broader audience | 16:15 |
| edleafe | cdent: separating email communication hardly seems like boundary blurring | 16:16 |
| elmiko | but it seems like our primary audience is openstack devs | 16:16 |
| elmiko | in specific, openstack project devs | 16:16 |
| cdent | edleafe: what I mean is that if we only send the newsletter to -dev, we are not reaching ops/users/pms/etc | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | moving anything to another mailing list will complicate things like "[api] [ironic] What to do about your API, folks?" :) | 16:17 |
| cdent | the point of sigs to make it easier for everyone to be encourage to become a contributor in many various ways | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | I mean, several tags, including us and not us | 16:17 |
| cdent | yeah, I agree it is messy | 16:17 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: ++ | 16:17 |
| cdent | which is why I brought it up | 16:17 |
| elmiko | at this point, i feel i have to ask are we looking to solicit more input from those other categories ops/users/pms ? | 16:18 |
| elmiko | not trying to say we reject them, but i thought we served the dev community mostly | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | we want for sure | 16:19 |
| edleafe | cdent: we can send the newsletter to whatever lists we want today. Changing to a SIG doesn't affect that | 16:19 |
| cdent | I think we do need input from those communities because without it we have less insiight into the inconsistencies | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | if you followed (cdent did) the discussion re api interop tag, one of my complains was being dev-centric | 16:19 |
| elmiko | cdent: and i agree with that sentiment | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | * openstack dev centric (/me cannot English after 6pm) | 16:19 |
| cdent | edleafe: yes, I’m saying that maybe that should change if we buy into sig-ness | 16:20 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: a fair point | 16:20 |
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| edleafe | cdent: to my thinking, we should do that whether we are a WG or a SIG or whatever | 16:20 |
| elmiko | maybe i'm just skeptical about the involvement of ops/users/pms | 16:20 |
| cdent | edleafe: yes, that’s the underlying point | 16:21 |
| cdent | elmiko: that’s fair, because there’s not that much involvement from devs either ;) | 16:21 |
| edleafe | cdent: so remind me again what this has to do with becoming a SIG | 16:21 |
| elmiko | cdent: right! | 16:21 |
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| cdent | So the reminder is this: As there is this move on to become a SIG, shall we use that as an excuse to expand our audience and publish output and solicit input more widely, or are we in fact an openstack-dev oriented org and as such we should not become a SIG? | 16:22 |
| cdent | Does that encapsulate the issue(s) better? | 16:22 |
| dtantsur | this is an interesting way to put it, hmm | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | I'm all for listening to people we seem to help :) | 16:23 |
| edleafe | cdent: that sort of begs the question | 16:23 |
| cdent | it is for the begging of the question that we speak | 16:23 |
| edleafe | of course we want to be as broadly relevant and helpful as possible | 16:23 |
| elmiko | cdent: it does encapsulate well, and at the same time makes the question much more interesting to digest | 16:23 |
| elmiko | edleafe: +1 | 16:24 |
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| cdent | edleafe: is that an of course? I think some of the time we think so, but earlier in the conversation we had comments to suggest otherwise. | 16:24 |
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| elmiko | i can totally understand the angle of accepting more input from outside contributors, that makes sense. but what are the long term goals from interacting with a wider community? for example, would we see a day where the api-wg is providing api advice to projects that merely built on top of openstack? | 16:25 |
| cdent | _I_ think it is an of course, but I also fear that we may not have the resource of wherewithal to be useful more broadly (not that I can really enumerate what the broader obligations would be). | 16:25 |
| cdent | jinxish | 16:25 |
| edleafe | cdent: what sort of comments were they? | 16:25 |
| elmiko | heh | 16:25 |
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| cdent | edleafe: elmiko’s comments “but i thought we served the dev community mostly" | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: if we're not confident in our guidelines enough to recommend them to people outside of the TC coverage, then something is wrong | 16:26 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: oh, i think we are, it's just a question of outreach. will we be directly interacting with folks from outside the openstack dev community in the same capacity? | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | if they come to us, why not? there is a whole trend on getting closer to e.g. container communities | 16:27 |
| elmiko | like, our guidelines are useful, they provide a nice conversation point for starting design/analysis. but they are mainly focused on the works of the openstack community | 16:27 |
| cdent | cross-community outreach is on trend | 16:27 |
| edleafe | cdent: we may have arisen from the dev community in response to shortcomings in the dev community, but that doesn't mean that's all we should be | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | I've heard some folks can learn from our API versioning (no irony this time) | 16:27 |
| cdent | edleafe: I agree, you don’t need to convince me. | 16:27 |
| cdent | dtantsur: that topic will come up shortly when we get to guidelines | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i guess i now have mixed feelings about the sig expansion | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i'm a little nervous about the scope expansion of the group given our size and history | 16:29 |
| edleafe | cdent: but it's no fun if we don't argue | 16:29 |
| edleafe | elmiko: there's always the chance that we might attract new blood | 16:29 |
| elmiko | edleafe: definitely, and that could be good or bad depending on the situation | 16:29 |
| elmiko | like, i sit in on some of the sig meetings for kubernetes and i just wonder how much additional density we could handle | 16:30 |
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| elmiko | like, if our group got popular in a cross-project way, it could become quite hectic in a short amount of time | 16:30 |
| elmiko | not saying that's a bad thing, just a risk to understand | 16:30 |
| elmiko | how much thrashing could we withstand kind of thing | 16:31 |
| * elmiko steps off soapbox | 16:32 | |
| cdent | better to burn out than fade away | 16:32 |
| cdent | or something | 16:32 |
| edleafe | REST never sleeps | 16:32 |
| elmiko | haha, i dunno, i've been thinking about that phrase in my personal life recently and i think i prefer fade away | 16:32 |
| cdent | heh, me too | 16:32 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:32 |
| dtantsur | :D | 16:33 |
| elmiko | so, maybe we should consider it for a little more time then hold a vote or something at an upcoming meeting? | 16:33 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure the best way to proceed | 16:33 |
| cdent | I don’t think there’s any rush. Pausing for reflection is warranted and fine. | 16:34 |
| elmiko | ok, cool. i didn't know if we needed to decide by the ptg or something | 16:34 |
| cdent | no | 16:34 |
| cdent | we should, however, reflect soe of our concerns back to that email thread, so that the notion of us being an early adopter isn’t as simple as “yeah, sure” | 16:35 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:35 |
| cdent | I can do that if nobody else wants to, but it won’t be today or tomorrow | 16:35 |
| edleafe | I was sort of hoping to have a SIG discussion at PTG | 16:36 |
| edleafe | I'm still not clear on how it would affect us long term | 16:36 |
| elmiko | edleafe: +1 i'd like that too | 16:36 |
| cdent | you mean a discussion about sigs? | 16:37 |
| cdent | if so, I’d suggest saying so in response to ttx’s thread (the link above): More info required please. | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | CLOSED INSUFFICIENT_DATA | 16:37 |
| elmiko | yes, i do mean that | 16:37 |
| elmiko | and yeah, i'll make a response | 16:38 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure the specifics as i've been getting digest emails but i'll figure it out (any advice appreciated) | 16:38 |
| cdent | any more on that or or any other new biz/open topic? | 16:39 |
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| edleafe | #action edleafe to respond to ttx on ML | 16:39 |
| edleafe | #undo | 16:39 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action edleafe to respond to ttx on ML | 16:39 |
| edleafe | #action edleafe to respond to ttx on ML regarding SIGs | 16:39 |
| elmiko | +1, thanks edleafe | 16:39 |
| cdent | okay | 16:40 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:40 |
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| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:40 |
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| cdent | the thing I wanted to mention about versioning was that sdague has had a talk accepted at apistrat about microversions. As part of that he’s going to be updating the doc at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444892/ more vigorously in prep | 16:41 |
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| elmiko | ooh, neat! and congrats to sdague | 16:41 |
| edleafe | the latest rev of that doc wasn't changed much | 16:42 |
| cdent | yeah, I’m very curious to hear how people respond. There will be some purists who will react very poorly, and some pragmatists who will be interested | 16:42 |
| elmiko | cdent: are you gonna be there as well? | 16:42 |
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| cdent | not last I checed | 16:43 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:43 |
| cdent | but I’m hoping to hear about it on the grapevine | 16:43 |
| elmiko | yeah for sure, was just curious | 16:43 |
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| cdent | it’s the sort of thing I’d like to go to, but not even thought of investigating until about 2 minutes ago | 16:43 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:44 |
| cdent | we’ve already talked about the review process guideline | 16:44 |
| cdent | so that leaves | 16:44 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487504/ | 16:44 |
| cdent | does that count as a non-guidance change? | 16:45 |
| * elmiko looks | 16:45 | |
| cdent | it’s basically repointing links | 16:45 |
| edleafe | Yes, IMO | 16:45 |
| elmiko | yeah, i think so too | 16:45 |
| edleafe | Shall I pull the trigger? | 16:46 |
| cdent | go fer it | 16:46 |
| edleafe | Done | 16:46 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:46 |
| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:46 |
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| cdent | when that merges we’ll have one less bug | 16:46 |
| cdent | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg | 16:47 |
| edleafe | Hey, I had a question about the Monty series | 16:47 |
| edleafe | I tried rebasing it, and got stuck on the middle patch | 16:47 |
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| edleafe | Can I push it with the one conflict I couldn't resolve? | 16:48 |
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| edleafe | Of course, I'd -1 it until Monty can fix it | 16:48 |
| cdent | good with me | 16:48 |
| elmiko | that sounds fair | 16:48 |
| edleafe | ok | 16:48 |
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| cdent | when (in the mythical future) placement allocation handling resolve, I ought to be able to pick up one more buglet from the bug list. I’m going to try to do that regularly, but I’m not sure when the mythical future gets here. | 16:51 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 16:51 |
| cdent | anything else on bugs? | 16:52 |
| edleafe | nope | 16:52 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:52 |
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| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:53 |
| cdent | I can’t do it this week, I need to run off an fetch my wayward lovely wife from the train station | 16:53 |
| * elmiko hides behind the couch | 16:53 | |
| edleafe | Guess it's my turn, huh? | 16:53 |
| elmiko | either that or we flip a coin | 16:53 |
| edleafe | Heh, as if I had any money | 16:54 |
| elmiko | i have time to do it | 16:54 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:54 |
| edleafe | I'll do it | 16:54 |
| elmiko | thanks | 16:54 |
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| cdent | thanks edleafe | 16:54 |
| cdent | anything else from anyone about anything? | 16:54 |
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| * edleafe has nothing | 16:54 | |
| * dtantsur too | 16:55 | |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 16:55 |
| elmiko | although, anything you say....? | 16:55 |
| elmiko | XD | 16:55 |
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| edleafe | So are we done? I'll ping you in -sdks when the newsletter is done | 16:56 |
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| cdent | we done | 16:56 |
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| cdent | thanks everybody | 16:56 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 3 16:56:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-08-03-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-08-03-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-08-03-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman annak: hi | 18:00 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
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| annak | hi1 | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 3 18:01:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Dont have anything specific on the agenda (apart from what is still carried over from last week) | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: rkukura and tbachman are local here in San Jose | 18:02 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: so we are going to discuss #link https://review.openstack.org/469681 (Subnetpools in resource_mapping driver) | 18:02 |
| * tbachman runs and hides | 18:02 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: lol | 18:02 |
| annak | :) | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: that was rkukura’s suggestion :-P | 18:03 |
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| * rkukura ducks,gets hit in face | 18:03 | |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: so hopefully we will have a better plan and revive the email thread which we had earlier | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and just to be clear, we are not a vioulent group! | 18:04 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *violent | 18:04 |
| annak | :) I've been trying to dig some more info to understand if lifting neutron limitation is the right way to go. | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: okay | 18:05 |
| annak | but this didn't really get me anywhere | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully in a day or two we can decide where we want to go with this for sure | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: you had some NSX patches, hopefully they are getting some review attention | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also noticed you have the 3rd party CI voting, awesome!! | 18:06 |
| annak | oh yes, please ignore it for now | 18:06 |
| annak | its still far from stable | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: at least you have it “reporting” | 18:07 |
| annak | with a broken link :) | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: it always starts with that :-) | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thats a good start | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I have this patch posted #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489163/ (Update service_chain heat node driver to LBaaS v2) | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its WIP | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | basically if you just want to use HAProxy in the service chain, this will help you do that | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | trying to figure out some async issues | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the above will enable using LBaaSv2 | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: rkukura tbachman: do you guys have anything else for today? | 18:09 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: not me | 18:09 |
| rkukura | I don’t | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: rkukura: thanks | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we can keep it short for today | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining! | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:09 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thx! | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:09 |
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| annak | bye! | 18:09 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 3 18:09:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-03-18.01.html | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-03-18.01.txt | 18:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-03-18.01.log.html | 18:09 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:09 |
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