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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 7 14:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
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| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| dims | gcb : o/ | 14:00 |
| xiaoyang_mobile | o/ | 14:01 |
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| xiaoyang_mobile | Hello everyone. My name is Zhang XiaoYang from Beijing, China. I am very glad to see this meeting. | 14:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:01 |
| xiaoyang_mobile | I am willing to spend more time on the Oslo project and work together with you to build the Oslo project. :) | 14:01 |
| gcb | xiaoyang_mobile: welcome | 14:01 |
| dims | xiaoyang_mobile : very nice to hear! | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | xiaoyang_mobile : welcome! | 14:02 |
| gcb | xiaoyang_mobile: remember add your nic in https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/blob/master/ping_me.py#L20 | 14:03 |
| amotoki | o/ | 14:04 |
| gcb | then you won't miss the meeting if you are online | 14:04 |
| gcb | \o/ everyone | 14:04 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:04 |
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| gcb | I didn't find failure in our periodic tasks http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:04 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:07 | |
| dims | looks like we are good for pike then | 14:07 |
| gcb | dims: yeah | 14:07 |
| dims | great job this cycle @gcb | 14:08 |
| gcb | thanks everyone :-) | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 14:08 |
| kgiusti | neutron has reported an issue with rabbit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705351 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705351 in oslo.messaging "agent notifier getting amqp NotFound exceptions propagated up to it" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ken Giusti (kgiusti) | 14:09 |
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| amotoki | kgiusti: thanks for taking care of it :) (as my hat of neutron) | 14:10 |
| kgiusti | this seems to result in a long hang during a migration | 14:10 |
| gcb | kgiusti: I saw you prepare a fix for that, right ? | 14:10 |
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| kgiusti | amotoki: would it be possible to try: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486706/ | 14:10 |
| kgiusti | gcb: ^^ | 14:10 |
| gcb | amotoki: thanks for the review link | 14:11 |
| kgiusti | I'd sleep better if Mehdi gave it his blessings ;) | 14:11 |
| amotoki | gcb: it is from kgiusti :) | 14:11 |
| gcb | kgiusti, will try to review it today :-) | 14:11 |
| amotoki | some background. it happened during grenade job | 14:12 |
| kgiusti | gcb: ty | 14:12 |
| dims | ++ to get input from @sileht about the review | 14:12 |
| amotoki | neutron stops some fanout queue during pike and it causes this bug | 14:12 |
| amotoki | neutron stopped listing some fanout queues * | 14:12 |
| amotoki | sorry, typo again :( *listening* | 14:13 |
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| gcb | kgiusti: do you think the fix should be in pike if we merged in master ? | 14:13 |
| kgiusti | gcb: yes | 14:13 |
| kgiusti | gcb: If my guess is correct, we're not cleaning up a non-recoverable channel error (NotFound from py-amqp) | 14:14 |
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| gcb | dims: is it possible that issue a new release for stable pike for oslo.messaging ? | 14:15 |
| amotoki | to share the current situation, neutron already has a workaround for this, so it is not critical for Pike now. | 14:15 |
| gcb | amotoki: ack | 14:15 |
| kgiusti | gcb: but again that's in some squirrely code and it would be best to have someone with a bit more rabbitmq related brain matter go over it | 14:15 |
| gcb | silent is the right man | 14:16 |
| gcb | * sileht | 14:16 |
| kgiusti | +1 | 14:17 |
| gcb | okay, let's move on | 14:18 |
| gcb | I issue a release for stable/ocata today #link https://review.openstack.org/491499 | 14:19 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:19 |
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| gcb | zzzeek's https://review.openstack.org/487902 | 14:22 |
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| gcb | I guess we have conclusion about the change after discussing in dev | 14:23 |
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| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:23 |
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| dims | gcb : any success with new PTL search? :) | 14:25 |
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| gcb | dims: no, I just submit for me in case no others step up. I would like to quit if anyone want to take the role :-) | 14:26 |
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| kgiusti | general question.... does anyone have any experience with zeromq? | 14:28 |
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| kgiusti | I'm trying to understand if zeromq can be made to understand virtual hosting.... | 14:28 |
| dims | kgiusti : we lost everyone from that effort :( | 14:28 |
| kgiusti | :( | 14:29 |
| gcb | we had one zeromq expert before:( | 14:29 |
| dims | gcb : thanks!! | 14:29 |
| kgiusti | kk thanks - I'll keep googling... | 14:29 |
| gcb | It's important that Attract more developers to contribute for Oslo | 14:30 |
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| xiaoyang_mobile | gcb:+1 | 14:31 |
| gcb | I have been trying to show the importance of oslo like https://review.openstack.org/491233 | 14:31 |
| gcb | xiaoyang_mobile is my colleague, I encourage him spend more time on oslo :-) | 14:32 |
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| gcb | dims, dhellmann: do you think is it right that apply tc:approved-releases for oslo libraries ? | 14:32 |
| dims | xiaoyang_mobile : please feel free to ping any one of us | 14:32 |
| dims | gcb : i'll look in a little bit | 14:33 |
| xiaoyang_mobile | dims:ok, thx | 14:34 |
| gcb | in order to make oslo available in https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ There are many use cases that use oslo libraries outside of OpenStack | 14:34 |
| gcb | dims: thanks | 14:34 |
| gcb | about the PTG, it's only one month before the PTG | 14:35 |
| gcb | feel free to edit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens | 14:35 |
| gcb | I wonder if we can communicate with the people who can't attend the PTG through online meeting like zoom | 14:36 |
| crushil | gcb, What days would the Oslo team would be meeting? | 14:37 |
| gcb | Monday and Tuesday | 14:38 |
| gcb | not sure we need two days | 14:38 |
| crushil | Cool, thanks | 14:38 |
| gcb | The second Project Teams Gathering (PTG) will be hosted in Denver, September 11-15, 2017 | 14:38 |
| gcb | Any topics :-) | 14:40 |
| amotoki | small question: what is the recommended way for small features? | 14:40 |
| amotoki | I am thinking some improvements on oslo.config generator with django lazy gettext in Queens (as horizon context) | 14:40 |
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| amotoki | blueprint for a specific project? | 14:41 |
| gcb | oslo-spec | 14:41 |
| gcb | we use it to collect blueprint for oslo | 14:41 |
| amotoki | thanks. will submit a spec after checking the problem detail | 14:42 |
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| gcb | amotoki: thanks here's the project http://www.github.com/openstack/oslo-specs | 14:43 |
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| amotoki | I have fixed only bugs in oslo, so i just wondered the spec process. thanks | 14:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 7 15:39:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-08-07-14.00.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-08-07-14.00.txt | 15:39 |
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| ijw | #startmeeting networking-vpp | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 7 16:03:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ijw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_vpp' | 16:03 |
| ijw | Anyone about? | 16:03 |
| njoy | I am here | 16:03 |
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| ijw | morning | 16:03 |
| njoy | morning | 16:03 |
| ijw | OK, so in the backlog there are two patches worth reviewing - the devstack one is necessary to run against master, so probably wants comitting to help Shriram with the gate tests, which we're trying to get to pass consistently | 16:04 |
| njoy | ok | 16:05 |
| ijw | Looks like you've reviewed both so I'll get them committed | 16:05 |
| njoy | yes | 16:05 |
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| ijw | Other than that could you just go through the bug list and see if anything's worth prioritising? We have about 20 bugs at the moment, most not urgent and a good chunk of RFEs | 16:06 |
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| njoy | Do you know if anyone is using gpe? | 16:07 |
| ijw | Not sure at the moment. No-one's mentioned it to me. | 16:07 |
| ijw | You have the 17.07 fix that you're waiting for? | 16:07 |
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| ijw | (Is that GPE related?) | 16:08 |
| njoy | there were several bugs on the security-groups side, which Andrew fixed | 16:08 |
| njoy | There is one outstanding bug on the GPE side, it goes into a graph loop | 16:09 |
| njoy | which needs to be fixed by Florin | 16:09 |
| njoy | I will shortly be informing him | 16:09 |
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| ijw | OK - you could probably enter a launchpad bug for that - we might want to change what version devstack fetches from the VPP repo when it's done. | 16:10 |
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| ijw | Other than that, I've been asked to give one of the VPP peeps some help on deploying a test environment so that they can check VPP against networking-vpp upstream, so I'll take that up with them. | 16:11 |
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| ijw | Don't think I have anything else at the moment, you? | 16:11 |
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| njoy | no, regarding the launchpad bug, is this just for tracking purposes on our side against the GPE issue in VPP? | 16:12 |
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| ijw | Yeah, basically - it might be a VPP bug but it affects what works for us. | 16:12 |
| njoy | okay | 16:12 |
| ijw | Unless there's anything else that's probably it for today | 16:14 |
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| njoy | thanks | 16:15 |
| njoy | nothing from my side | 16:15 |
| njoy | bye for now | 16:15 |
| ijw | Thanks | 16:15 |
| ijw | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 7 16:15:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-08-07-16.03.html | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-08-07-16.03.txt | 16:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-08-07-16.03.log.html | 16:15 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 7 17:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi all! | 17:00 |
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| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
| baha | o/ | 17:00 |
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| etingof | o/ | 17:00 |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| mjturek | O/ | 17:00 |
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| fellypefca | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | welcome! our agenda as usual is at: | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:02 | |
| yuriyz | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #info PTL elections start later this week, please exercise your right to vote! | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | thanks TheJulia for running against me :) | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | Anytime! :) | 17:02 |
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| ricardoas | o/ | 17:02 |
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| kaifeng | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | #info Pike RC1 release of most projects this week | 17:03 |
| mgoddard | o/ | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | this does not directly affects us | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | well, not until they create stable/pike for requirements | 17:03 |
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| ricardoas | that means we can still change driver-requirements.txt? | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | driver-requirements can be changed, it's fully managed by us | 17:04 |
| ricardoas | good! | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | #info dtantsur is slowly cleaning up the bug list | 17:05 |
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| dtantsur | quite a few bugs are losing their assignees - pick'em while they're hot! | 17:06 |
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| TheJulia | Awesome | 17:06 |
| rpioso | o/ Sorry for being a bit late. | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | moving on? | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:07 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | start on line 116 | 17:07 |
| pas-ha | o/ | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | BFV is really, really close | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | so are rolling upgrades | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | :) | 17:08 |
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| dtantsur | do I remember it right that rloo is out for now? | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | if so, somebody has to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416565/ | 17:09 |
| TheJulia | You remember correctly | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | volunteers? :) | 17:09 |
| TheJulia | Preferably a non-core since we shouldn't approve our own edits. | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | sigh, I can do it; I guess the docs are my fate nowadays | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I'll take care of it | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | tomorrow | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | thanks TheJulia! this is very close, mostly minor things IIRC | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: rloo is on vacation this week | 17:11 |
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| dtantsur | for those enjoying reading docs, I certainly have some: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486696/ :) | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | thanks jlvillal! | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | I have some concerns on BFV testing. That it isn't testing. Posted more over on #openstack-ironic | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | But I don't want to side-track meeting | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | well, it's an important thing to raise | 17:12 |
| * xavierr will review docs again | 17:12 | |
| * kaifeng too | 17:13 | |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: wait, you're changing the API tests, and the job runs a scenario test | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | stuff in tests/api is not run by it at all (though it's run by other jobs) | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | if you want to check its validness, I suggest breaking something in the cinder interface | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Oh. So does anything run that test code? | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: I think non-bfv jobs run all API tests | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | Hmm. Okay. I will wait until after meeting to figure it out. | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Ah yeah. Failed in other tests. Sorry I was thinking that was specific to BFV. My mistake. | 17:15 |
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| dtantsur | no prob :) it can be confusing | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | we should really move the API tests out of the integration jobs into their own job | 17:16 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: ^^^ | 17:16 |
| TheJulia | +1000 | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | forgot to announce: I've started cleaning up the release notes for the next (9.0.0?) release: https://review.openstack.org/491265 | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | thanks all who commented so far, I'll update it tomorrow | 17:17 |
| TheJulia | 9.0.0 would follow our release cycling :) | 17:17 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: Thanks for picking that up, it was on my list to begin looking at first thing today :) | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | haha, that's the benefit (?) of working on Sunday :) | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | heh | 17:19 |
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| TheJulia | s/benefit/curse/? | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | depends :) I had some boring time to fill | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | the python 3 job is passing \o/ | 17:20 |
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| jlvillal | That's awesome :) | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | which reminds me that I should update the TC about the goals | 17:21 |
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| dtantsur | the Queens steps will be IPA and ironic-inspector, I guess | 17:22 |
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| xavierr | Is there any initiative of OpenStack drop support for python 2? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: do you still hope to get IPA API versioning fully in Pike? | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | xavierr: eventually. it's not easy, given downstream support for python 3 | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | it's not happening in Queens for sure | 17:23 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I think it would be a nice to have | 17:23 |
| pas-ha | I would even go as far as build tinyipa with py3 by default | 17:23 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: its very close | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | pas-ha: let's start with updating the existing py3 job to do it (volunteers welcome;) | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: okay, let's try to merge it by the next meeting. otherwise, I think, it will be a bit too late | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | everyone finished with the statuses? | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deciding on priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:24 | |
| * pas-ha lost net access, sitting on 2g mobile.. :/ | 17:25 | |
| dtantsur | pas-ha: ugh :( | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | pas-ha: ouch :( | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | we still have some final docs work to do | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I lost track of what exactly you were looking for volunteers for. | 17:25 |
| anupn | pas-ha, I will like to volunteer for that | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: the python3 job to use python3 for tinyipa | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Updating existing py3 job to do .... ? | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | anupn: for this ^^^? | 17:26 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Ah. Thanks :) | 17:26 |
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| anupn | dtantsur, yes, but of course need to go over some docs, have not played much with py3 upgrading | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | anupn: thanks! | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: do I get it right that we need to land the ironic part of IPA API work first? | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: are you up for working on your VIF refactoring patch chain this week? | 17:28 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: yup the reason being that we need to know the ironic API version in the IPA part, and until its landed that isn't certain | 17:30 |
| sambetts | as more API changes might land | 17:30 |
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| dtantsur | I hope we don't land more API changes ;) but yes, you're right | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | I'd kick the VIF refactoring our for now, to be honest.. | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | opinions? | 17:31 |
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| TheJulia | no strong opinions either way | 17:31 |
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| sambetts | its internal tech debt, the main thing it'll affect is anyone writing drivers than use the mixins | 17:32 |
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| sambetts | s/than/that | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, but I'm not sure we can finish all this in one week | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | and I don't know if mgoddard has time for it | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | Seems like the only real option is to do what we can and hold any breaking/impacting changes. | 17:33 |
| * dtantsur is unsure if it's "keep" or "move" | 17:34 | |
| dtantsur | anyway, here is the list. how does it look? | 17:35 |
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| * dtantsur hears crickets | 17:36 | |
| jlvillal | Looks reasonable to me. | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: looks good to me | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | okay :) | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | moving on then | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | #topic Any cross-project sessions (esp. Nova and Neutron) needed for the PTG? | 17:36 |
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| dtantsur | this should be quick, mostly a reminder | 17:36 |
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| dtantsur | if we want a cross-session with folks, it's time to plan on it | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | any immediate ideas on what we could discuss? | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | Mogan? https://github.com/openstack/mogan | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: what should we discuss there? | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | No idea who is using Mogan though. | 17:38 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Probably nothing. I just know they use Ironic. | 17:38 |
| kaifeng | maybe neutron events or sth | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | nothing that comes to mind dtantsur, there are possibilities on each side, but I suspect hallway track may be just as effective for minor things | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: I think for neutron events we have a plan forward, right vdrok? | 17:38 |
| pas-ha | Yep | 17:39 |
| kaifeng | and routed network? i have not checked the board yet :P | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | okay, let's put it this way: | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | #action everyone please think of potential cross-project sessions at the PTG by next week | 17:40 |
| wanyen | dtanstur, perhaps with nova to discuss rsc class scheduling? | 17:40 |
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| dtantsur | wanyen: I'm doing it every week :) it's done in Pike, what exactly would you like to discuss? | 17:40 |
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| * dtantsur has to refresh the docs tomorrow | 17:41 | |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: I may have some time for VIF refactoring this week | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: good, because we kept it on the list ;) this is something I'd prefer to finish rather earlier | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | because of potential merge conflicts and breaking stuff | 17:41 |
| wanyen | dtantsur, I am thinking to be able to use standard rsc class (as opposed to custom class) for Ironic. | 17:42 |
| mgoddard | makes sense. I'll aim to address the comments in the next day or two | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: I agree with the PTG topic, but this is something you can raise to nova folks already (ML, scheduler meeting, etc) | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | because the current plan is to remove this in Queens | 17:42 |
| wanyen | dtantsur: remove this. what is this? | 17:43 |
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| dtantsur | wanyen: ability to use standard resource classes with ironic | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: edleafe and jaypipes are good people to talk to about that (and good people overall!) | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: I've put the topic to the etherpad, but without you attending it may be hard to advocate for your position | 17:44 |
| wanyen | dtantsur, ilo team plan to do some PoC first and then talk to nova | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | ack | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | other ideas? you have a week to think about it :) | 17:45 |
| wanyen | unfortunately, none of the ilo team member can attend PTG. Is remote participation possible? | 17:45 |
| * edleafe reads back | 17:45 | |
| dtantsur | wanyen: I don't know; it highly depends on the rooms, their equipment and the internet quality | 17:45 |
| edleafe | wanyen: what do you mean by "use a standard resource class"? | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: please direct your question to the foundation staff | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: could you please talk to edleafe in #openstack-nova? I'd prefer to move on with the topics | 17:47 |
| wanyen | edleafe, nova has standard rsc class (CPU, memory, storage, PCI devices) that Nova virtual instance can use. These rsc classes handle quantative rsc | 17:47 |
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| dtantsur | ready to move on? | 17:48 |
| edleafe | wanyen: then an ironic node would still suffer the problems it has today | 17:48 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: lets move on | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | 12 minute warning | 17:48 |
| wanyen | edleafe, can you elaborate "problems"? | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 17:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE review (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:48 | |
| dtantsur | wanyen, edleafe, sorry, we have to follow the agenda :( | 17:49 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: no worries | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1635644 SNMP driver auto-discovery | 17:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1635644 in Ironic "[RFE] SNMP driver auto-discovery" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Philippe Godin (godp1301) | 17:49 |
| wanyen | dtantsur: sure, np. | 17:49 |
| * TheJulia tries to wrap her head around this | 17:49 | |
| dtantsur | so, this SNMP thing seems a simple win at first glance | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | instead of operators providing a vendor (OID?), discover it from SNMP itself | 17:50 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I like it | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | etingof: may have opinions here | 17:50 |
| * etingof just proposed an alternative design in the review | 17:50 | |
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| dtantsur | etingof: does it invalidate the RFE itself or only its implementation? | 17:51 |
| etingof | it's more about the implementation | 17:51 |
| etingof | there may be possible to make it more general/universal | 17:52 |
| etingof | *a possibility | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | etingof: using the system description field? | 17:53 |
| etingof | no, using the sysORTable | 17:53 |
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| TheJulia | why not both? | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | we're talking about snmp here :) | 17:54 |
| etingof | yes, SNMP | 17:54 |
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| etingof | the sysDescr basically tells you the model of the device | 17:54 |
| etingof | the sysORTable tells you what this device can do for you | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | And hopefully most have a valid vlaue there, I would only worry that sysORTable is insufficient or incomplete for some vendors. | 17:55 |
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| etingof | the first involves more heuristics while the second is more formal and general | 17:55 |
| etingof | yes, that is my concern as well | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | I'm +1 to the overall idea, actual implementation details aside | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | yeah, my question is whether we can approve the RFE and figure out the exact implementations in the patch | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | (also 3 minutes warning) | 17:57 |
| TheJulia | I think we can, rfe is conceptual, and since it would be largely limited to the mechanics of the driver, I think that is okay | 17:57 |
| etingof | +1 for approving the RFE as is | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | okay | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | next | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1688489 deprecate continue_node_clean() RPC | 17:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1688489 in Ironic "[RFE] deprecate continue_node_clean() RPC API method" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:57 |
| TheJulia | actual implementation details, we can figure out or determine we need more consensus/information | 17:58 |
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| dtantsur | yuriyz: ^^^ | 17:58 |
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| TheJulia | Im kind of -1 to this as is, at least thinking about it at the moment, since it feels like we're trying to route around performance issues | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | but I could be convinced otherwise. I just fear touching the logic in cleaning with how it presently works | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | "convinced otherwise" sounds like a spec ;) | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:59 |
| yuriyz | maybe I try to create the spec? | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | yuriyz++ | 17:59 |
| yuriyz | ok | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | aaaand, we're out of time :) | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | thanks everyone | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | Thanks everyone! | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 7 18:00:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-08-07-17.00.html | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-08-07-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-08-07-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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