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robcresswell#startmeeting horizon20:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 20:04:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)"20:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:04
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robcresswellThese 9PM meetings -.- Sorry again for lateness.20:04
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e0nehi20:04
e0nerobcresswell: 11 pm:)20:05
robcresswelle0ne: You win20:05
robcresswellRight, so, lets get started20:05
robcresswell#topic Notices20:05
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robcresswell#info RC1 tagging day is tomorrow20:05
e0nedo we have a list what should be merged before RC1?20:06
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robcresswellthere's a handful of bugs targeted at RC120:06
e0neor do we want to have merged20:06
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robcresswell#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/pike-rc120:07
e0nerobcresswell: thanks20:07
robcresswellIf anyone has any last minute items, please ping me so we can get things merged20:08
robcresswellWe've an empty agenda again, so can move to open discussion20:08
robcresswell#topic Open Discussion20:08
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e0neI've got one bug  to discuss20:08
e0ne#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/170907720:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1709077 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Login bug when changing from admin project to private project" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne)20:08
robcresswelle0ne: ah yes, I'll dig out the relevant IRC log too20:09
e0nerobcresswell: oh, thanks20:09
e0neI forgot to prepare that link:(20:09
robcresswelle0ne: Feel free to explain the bug to others while I'm looking :)20:09
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e0ne#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491479/20:10
robcresswell#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-horizon/%23openstack-horizon.2017-08-07.log.html#t2017-08-07T12:45:0620:10
e0neso the issue is: we can't always redirect  to 'next_url' if NotAuthorized exception is raised20:10
e0nee.g. you're switching from tenantA with admin role to tenantB with member role only20:11
e0nein such case, you'll be always redirected to the login page:(20:11
e0neas a workaroind - you can remove 'next_url' param from the browser URL line20:12
e0nemy proposal is to redirect to WEBROOT page  if user was asked to re-login after NotAuthorized is raised20:13
e0nebut it's not an ideal UX :(20:13
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rdopieracan't we somehow distinguish between "logged out" and "no access"?20:13
e0nerdopiera: we already do it20:13
e0neno access means NotAuthorized is rised20:14
ying_zuoI thought the login panel will show something like you are not authorized to access that page?20:14
e0nelogged out - NotAuthenticeded20:14
robcresswellIf you look at my comment at 13:01 in that log, that explains the two cases where this happens20:14
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e0neying_zuo: you're right20:14
rdopierain that case, why are we sending the user to the login page on NotAuthorized in the first place?20:15
robcresswellrdopiera: Because it's more useful than a blank page, making them log out and back in20:15
e0nerdopiera: good question. I thinks we're suggesting to re-login with a different user/role in a such way20:16
e0nerobcresswell: +120:16
rdopierahow about we have a generic "not authorized" page that has a link to the login page and a link back?20:16
rdopierathat's one more click for case 1), sure20:16
rdopierabut at least avoids confusion20:17
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rdopieraand we can have a cute horizon project mascot image on it20:17
e0ne:)20:17
ying_zuoI think we can just redirect the user. it's little weird to show a link on log in page..20:18
rdopierabut more seriously it would have an explicit message, something like "You are currently logged in as XXX and don't have the access to this page. You can either navigate away or login as a different user _here_."20:19
rdopierabasically an error handler page20:19
e0nethe current message is: "Unauthorized. Please try logging in again."20:19
e0nerdopiera: did you see my patch?20:20
ying_zuomaybe just provide more information?20:20
rdopierae0ne: I did not20:20
e0nerdopiera: here is it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491479/20:20
rdopierae0ne: I have now20:20
ying_zuoindicating the user doesn't have permission to access the panel20:21
rdopieraI think that web servers have solved this problem years ago with error pages, and that we should do something similar20:21
e0neying_zuo, rdopiera: the issue is not only in 'explicit error message'20:21
robcresswellying_zuo: The problem is just how much "automatic" action you want to have. At the moment, we assume if they don't have auth, they want to login as a correct user20:21
robcresswellThe problem is, in some cases, you get a double login20:22
e0neying_zuo, rdopiera: what if you re-login with the same user?20:22
rdopierae0ne: I think it is -- the whole confusion comes from the fact that you are redirecting the user, instead of making him stay on that page, but display an error message20:22
rdopierae0ne: then you still see the error page with the link to the login screen, and you can still navigate away from it (all the menus are visible, etc.)20:23
e0nerdopiera: it will show user some admin-only links and menus. I don't think that's acceptable20:23
rdopierae0ne: why would it?20:23
robcresswellMaybe its more a problem with missing policy20:24
rdopierae0ne: the menus don't show you links to which you don't have access20:24
e0nerdopiera: you switched from admin to user on a /admin/ page20:24
rdopierae0ne: the menus are rendered by the same code on all pages20:24
rdopierae0ne: you see the same thing no matter on what page you are20:25
e0nerdopiera: ok, so it shouldn't be an issue20:25
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rdopierajust the content of the page would be replaced with the message20:26
e0nerdopiera: I like this idea20:26
e0nerdopiera: it could be done early in Queens only20:27
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robcresswellSo...20:29
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robcresswellokay... I think this should work20:30
robcresswellPeople might complain about the missing redirect though20:30
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robcresswellIf you hit an admin url, like a saved link or something, I guess its just a couple of extra clicks20:31
robcresswelle0ne: Are you able to put up a PoC?20:32
e0nerdopiera: yes, I can do it by EoD tomorrow20:32
robcresswelle0ne: Okay it doesn't need to be *that* fast haha20:32
robcresswellBut sure, sounds good20:32
e0nerobcresswell: but since it requires a new message we can't merge it in a Pike20:33
e0nerobcresswell: it affects our customer, so I want to finish it asap20:33
rdopierawe could just have a doge head instead of text ;)20:33
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robcresswelle0ne: Yeah. I'm not sure what we could do as a smaller fix for RC1.20:33
e0nerdopiera: :)20:33
rdopieramaybe we have a message that we could repurpose somewhere already?20:34
rdopierawe should have something like simple "no access" somewhere, I'd wager20:35
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robcresswellThe other option is to do add some logic to the url handling.20:35
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e0nerobcresswell: what do you mean?20:36
rdopieraredirect will always be surprising, whether it's to the login page or webroot20:36
robcresswelle0ne: Just thinking aloud about solutions20:37
e0nerdopiera: for note: I proposed redirect to the webroot after re-login only20:37
rdopiera424:msgid "You are not authorized to access %s"20:38
rdopiera427:msgid "You do not have permission to access the resource:"20:38
rdopierawe have such two strings20:38
rdopieraI think one of them could be used20:38
e0nerdopiera: cool. what about something like 'please, try to re-login with different permissions'20:38
rdopierae0ne: we can add that in the next release20:39
e0nerdopiera: :)20:39
rdopierae0ne: with a link to login page that includes the next_url20:39
rdopieraso that when you do login, you get back to that page20:39
e0nerdopiera: works for me, but it's half of the fix only without link to the login page:(20:40
rdopieralet me look for a suitable message for the login link20:41
rdopiera230:"Login as different user or go back to <a href=\"%(home_url)s\">home page</a>"20:41
rdopierahow about this?20:41
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robcresswellhaha20:41
e0nerdopiera: great!20:42
rdopieranot perfect, as there is no room for the link in the message20:42
rdopierabut we can add a link with just "Login" after it20:43
e0nerdopiera: +120:43
rdopieraand in the next release, the "login as different user" part would be al ink20:43
rdopieraa link20:43
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robcresswellRight, sounds like we have a plan forward20:46
e0nerobcresswell: are you ok with this plan?20:46
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robcresswelle0ne: I think so. Ill so my brains a little fuzzy right now.20:47
robcresswellrdopiera is generally sensible and he approves20:47
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e0nerobcresswell, rdopiera: great, thanks for the help!20:48
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robcresswelle0ne: Put up a PoC and we'll take a look20:48
robcresswell:D20:48
robcresswellAny other points to raise? Any bugs / patches / bps are welcome20:48
rdopierae0ne: ping me if you need any help with that20:48
jeremy_moffittthe Denver PTG schedule has a M/Tu Horizon room listed, but nothing in the lower list for wed/th, is the expectation that any Horizon meetups will occur M/Tu? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/pubhtml?gid=397241312&single=true20:48
rdopierae0ne: I think django has a mechanism for doing error pages20:48
e0neyou forgot 'put up poc and ping us' ;)20:48
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jeremy_moffittfrom the schedule link at https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_schedule20:49
e0nerdopiera: it has. I hope it will be easy to implement20:49
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robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: Yeah, Horizon is Mon/ Tue20:50
robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: I complained about that last time, but nothing changed :)20:51
jeremy_moffittcool, couple of us just got travel approval, will book accordingly, thanks!20:51
lucasxumaybe someone can confirm this bug? #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/170969320:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1709693 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Cannot create network in the admin/networks panel without creating a subnet" [Undecided,New]20:51
robcresswelljeremy_moffitt: Awesome!20:51
robcresswellThe planning etherpad is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-queens20:52
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robcresswellIts also in the Horizon room topic if you need it20:52
robcresswelllucasxu: Looking20:52
lucasxuthanks!20:52
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robcresswelllucasxu: Confirmed20:56
lucasxugreat :)20:57
ying_zuolucasxu: seems like there's a problem when the physical network and segmentation id are hidden20:57
ying_zuoit works if you select a type with those two fields visible like vlan20:57
lucasxuying_zuo, right, was going to ping you since you had a patch related to this before.20:57
lucasxuhmm, what if I just need a "local"?20:57
ying_zuosounds good20:58
robcresswellWe're about at the hour20:58
lucasxuwe'll see, i don't have a good solution yet20:59
lucasxubut thanks guys.20:59
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robcresswellying_zuo, lucasxu: Could you two discuss in the horizon room if you have chance? I dont want to cut you off20:59
lucasxusure, thanks20:59
robcresswellThanks everyone20:59
e0nesee you next week20:59
robcresswell#endmeeting20:59
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