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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 16 14:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek,zxy | 14:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:01 |
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| crushil | \o | 14:01 |
| gcb | #chair kgiusti | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: gcb kgiusti | 14:01 |
| gcb | hi kgiusti crushil | 14:02 |
| kgiusti | hi gcb! | 14:02 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:03 |
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| zxy | o/ | 14:03 |
| gcb | welcome zxy | 14:04 |
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| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo didn't show new failures | 14:04 |
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| gcb | No news is good news, let's move on | 14:05 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:05 | |
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| zxy | ^.^ | 14:05 |
| gcb | https://review.openstack.org/510567 is for queens | 14:05 |
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| gcb | # Sydney Oslo Updates | 14:06 |
| gcb | #topic Sydney Oslo Project Updates | 14:07 |
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| gcb | we have 20 minutes session to show what's new in oslo during Pike #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-live-from-oslo | 14:07 |
| gcb | please feel free to add items | 14:08 |
| gcb | kgiusti: I passed the VISA application to Australia today, so I could be available in the Summit | 14:09 |
| kgiusti | gcb: that's great to hear. | 14:09 |
| ansmith | o/ - sorry i'm late | 14:09 |
| gcb | ansmith: it doesn't matter, we don't talk too much until now LOL | 14:10 |
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| gcb | dhellmann, dims, bnemec: do you have any update about the session - Oslo Project Update | 14:12 |
| gcb | kgiusti: can you access https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1P2cMMaDQZaeJIYNQFp-6OFVrpQUh4-D0CsGHLoWd-AY/edit ? | 14:12 |
| kgiusti | gcb: not presently - I've requested access... | 14:13 |
| gcb | note sure the working slide is shared | 14:13 |
| kgiusti | gcb: it requires permission | 14:13 |
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| gcb | kgiusti: ack, will share it and update in the etherpad, please feel free to add oslo.messaging update there | 14:14 |
| kgiusti | gcb: will do | 14:14 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:14 | |
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| kgiusti | still working on zuulv3 + oslo.messaging. Waited for zuulv3 to stabilize... | 14:15 |
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| kgiusti | once I get all the legacy stuff back up and running I'll -WIP the patch for review. | 14:16 |
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| gcb | thanks | 14:17 |
| gcb | ansmith: I added comments about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506338/, others LGTM | 14:17 |
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| ansmith | gcb: thanks for your comments, the uuid was to get func test passing | 14:19 |
| ansmith | gcb: likely not solution for long term | 14:19 |
| * gcb is busy on company stuff, hope can help more about zuul v3 migration | 14:19 | |
| ansmith | gcb: it pertains to kafka consumer group model that driver needs to adhere to | 14:19 |
| kgiusti | gcb: what's the overall status for Oslo + zuulv3? Aside from messaging are there any other projects that need their tests fixed? | 14:20 |
| gcb | kgiusti: some oslo libraries have zuul v3 migration patches like oslo.log , oslo.versionedobject like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511382/ | 14:22 |
| kgiusti | gcb: ok, good to know. | 14:24 |
| * kgiusti had the wrong topic, apparently :( | 14:26 | |
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| gcb | ansmith: I'm concern we can set uuid in the test, not in the runtime code | 14:28 |
| jungleboyj | gcb: Sorry I missed this ping. In another meeting. | 14:28 |
| jungleboyj | No red flags from Cinder. :-) | 14:29 |
| gcb | jungleboyj: thanks | 14:29 |
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| gcb | any other topics ? | 14:31 |
| ansmith | gcb: yes, setting the consumer_group value should work, will try change | 14:32 |
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| gcb | ansmith: thanks | 14:35 |
| gcb | thanks everyone | 14:36 |
| gcb | let'e end the meeting | 14:36 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 16 14:36:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-16-14.00.html | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-16-14.00.txt | 14:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-16-14.00.log.html | 14:36 |
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| d0ugal | #startmeeting mistral | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 16 15:03:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is d0ugal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:03 |
| d0ugal | Hey all | 15:03 |
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| bobh | o/ | 15:03 |
| d0ugal | Who is around for the Mistral meeting today? | 15:03 |
| thrash | o/ | 15:03 |
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| d0ugal | Renat can't join us today | 15:04 |
| d0ugal | So I suspect this will be a fairly short meeting :) | 15:04 |
| d0ugal | #topic Current status | 15:04 |
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| d0ugal | oops, I forgot the agenda and we had one action item | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | but we can do that after the status updates | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | Please share any updates | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | bobh: Do you have anything to share? | 15:06 |
| bobh | I sent email to the oslo team about adding a new project - Dough suggested treating it the same as a client library | 15:06 |
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| d0ugal | I have been mostly trying (but failing) to make progress on the action context bug. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718353 - planning to work on it with Renat tomorrow morning (my time) | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1718353 in Mistral "The "context" parameter of Action.run() isn't filled properly for asynchronous actions" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Dougal Matthews (d0ugal) | 15:06 |
| bobh | s/Dough/Dough/ | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | :) | 15:06 |
| bobh | argh | 15:06 |
| bobh | dhellman | 15:07 |
| bobh | Anyway - probably need to discuss if we want to take that step, name for the project, etc | 15:07 |
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| d0ugal | bobh: I think it sounds like a good plan, I had read the emails. | 15:07 |
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| bobh | I'm happy to take the lead since I'm the instigator | 15:07 |
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| toure | still working through a few things, hope to finalize 506652 / 506653 today | 15:08 |
| d0ugal | toure: cool, they are gerrit ID's right? | 15:08 |
| toure | yes sir | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | thrash, rbrady, apetrich - anything you'd like to share? | 15:10 |
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| rbrady | I unfortunately don't have any mistral status to share. working on tripleo tasks for the previous week. | 15:10 |
| thrash | d0ugal: checking on zuul v3 for the client repo. Will need to work more on moving the legacy jobs to use new zuulv3 interfaces. | 15:10 |
| thrash | d0ugal: and the yamlparse and jsonparse patch landed, so I'm good there. | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | thrash: did you see the request for tests? | 15:11 |
| thrash | d0ugal: for... the parse? | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | thrash: Yeah | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | thrash: "<rakhmerov> thrash|g0ne: hi Brad, can you please add the tests for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511616 ? I approved it by mistake but it's ok, we can add tests separately" | 15:11 |
| thrash | d0ugal: I did not. I can work on that. | 15:11 |
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| thrash | d0ugal: ack | 15:11 |
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| d0ugal | #topic Open Discussion | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 15:12 | |
| d0ugal | So I think we covered the agenda item there, last time we had an action for bobh to mail the list - that happened and it just needs to take the next step | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | so now we can go into open discussion | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | So, does anyone have anything they would like to chat about? | 15:12 |
| bobh | any suggestions for project name for expressions package? | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | If not, we can all spend 48 minutes doing bug triage ;) | 15:13 |
| bobh | expressions is taken - mistral-expressions would work but implies a dependency that isn't really there | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | bobh: taken where? | 15:13 |
| bobh | pypi | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | ah | 15:13 |
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| bobh | maybe something like evalexpr since that's what it does | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | oslo.expressions could be an option - I am not sure if anyone can use the oslo prefix? | 15:14 |
| bobh | That's a possibility - I can check with dhellman | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | I think it will be something that is hard to explain in a name :) | 15:15 |
| bobh | definitely | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | It is a very abstract concept | 15:15 |
| bobh | I need to find some abstract Greek or Roman reference | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | hah :) | 15:15 |
| bobh | I'll check on the oslo.expressions and go from there | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | sounds good. | 15:17 |
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| d0ugal | Anything else? | 15:18 |
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| d0ugal | I'll wait a few mins and then end the meeting otherwise | 15:19 |
| bobh | One other thing I'm looking for naming help with | 15:19 |
| bobh | I'd like to have a join option that allows for "roads not taken" | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | What does that mean? | 15:20 |
| bobh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/allow-join-success-on-partial-tree | 15:20 |
| bobh | So there are times when there may be optional paths in a flow that may or may not happen depending on inputs | 15:21 |
| bobh | join: all assumes that all paths are taken | 15:21 |
| bobh | and any path not possible to take is considered an error | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | Do you have an example? | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | I think I understand but an example would be useful | 15:22 |
| bobh | Say I'm deploying a service with a workflow and there are several different options for the service, that could run in parallel | 15:22 |
| bobh | if one of the services is not needed (due to input values) then that path would not execute and the join: all would fail | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | Right | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | I wonder how Mistral could detect a failure vs "not-possible" | 15:23 |
| bobh | there is a method that determines if a path is possible | 15:24 |
| bobh | and if it's not possible it assumes error status | 15:24 |
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| d0ugal | Right | 15:24 |
| bobh | I'd like an option to "ignore" the not possible paths | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | join: started? | 15:25 |
| bobh | that would work | 15:25 |
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| bobh | join: possible | 15:25 |
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| d0ugal | lol | 15:25 |
| bobh | :-) | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | If we have that I also want a join: impossible :P | 15:25 |
| bobh | lol - that would be a cool feature | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | Maybe you could have something like "join-paths: a, b, c | 15:27 |
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| d0ugal | and then you have to actually list the paths that need to join and we somehow name the paths in the workflow | 15:27 |
| bobh | As long as we could eval the paths at runtime | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | yeah, it could be an expression I guess | 15:28 |
| bobh | I'll start the spec with "join: started" and we can discuss in the review | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | Sounds like an interesting feature :) We only use join in a couple of simple places at the moment | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | Sounds good! | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | #action bobh to write a spec for "join: started" | 15:29 |
| bobh | Thanks - we use it pretty extensively | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | Anything else to discuss? | 15:30 |
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| d0ugal | Okay, I guess that is everything for today | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | Thanks everyone for coming! | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 16 15:32:24 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-10-16-15.03.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-10-16-15.03.txt | 15:32 |
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| najoy | Good morning! Anyone here | 16:03 |
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| ijw | #startmeeting networking-vpp | 16:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 16 16:12:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ijw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:12 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_vpp' | 16:12 |
| ijw | I'm here, just late | 16:12 |
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| ijw | OK, we sorted out the unit test issues for the most part, but L3 tests are still disabled right now due to Pike/Queens compatibility issues. I've asked for some help on that but I don't seem to have found any yet | 16:13 |
| ijw | najoy, I think you're testing your L3 work on a slightly different version of OpenStack, so when you push your changes, if you push the patches to the 'suspended' L3 test file, then we can bring it back online when we get that dealt with | 16:14 |
| ijw | Other than that, the etcd code is ready and needs a good reviewing. I think the structural issues (commit message, unit test passes) are now completed. | 16:15 |
| ijw | L3 - not sure yet. | 16:15 |
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| ijw | And I removed the 'maketap' backend plugging type because we don't use it, and I think we should commit that patch before release just so that we're not carrying around ancient history (it shouldn't have any effect on functionality). | 16:15 |
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| ijw | I'll be fixing the ML2 config patch up this week. It's a better reworking of the config fix I put in to get unit test compatibility with Queens, and it draws a cleaner line between the etcd code (which I'm trying to make re-useable so that we can have a bgpvpn API in the future). | 16:17 |
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| ijw | Anyway, that'll do for this week | 16:21 |
| ijw | #endmeeting | 16:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 16 16:21:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-10-16-16.12.html | 16:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-10-16-16.12.txt | 16:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-10-16-16.12.log.html | 16:21 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 16 17:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| mjturek | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
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| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| anupn | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:00 |
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| crushil | o/ | 17:00 |
| baha | o/ | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi all! | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | our agenda is where it has to be: | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
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| rama_y | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:02 | |
| dtantsur | #info Zuul v3 switch is done (again) | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | things seem more or less fine, but we do see some strange errors | 17:03 |
| rloo | I looked about an hour? ago and there weren't any ironic patches in the zuul gate. so you might want to 'recheck'... | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | yes, and this | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | But is it working? | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: we have patches merged since the switch | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | I thought I saw a punch of POST_FAILURE errors. | 17:03 |
| rloo | jlvillal: will let you know when the rechecks are working... | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Are those resolved? | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Cool! | 17:03 |
| rajinir | o/ | 17:03 |
| rloo | jlvillal: yeah, and MERGE_FAILURES :-( | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | so it's still unstable | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | if you see anything strange, please report to the infra | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | next, | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | #info The TC election is going on | 17:04 |
| * dtantsur has not voted yet | 17:05 | |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:05 |
| rloo | voting ends on Friday | 17:05 |
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| rloo | yes, nova feature freeze is Thursday | 17:05 |
| rloo | feature spec freeze i mean | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | OH YEAH | 17:05 |
| * TheJulia blinks | 17:05 | |
| dtantsur | #info Nova specs freeze is this Thursday | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | we did land the traits spec. do we expect more specs? | 17:05 |
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| rloo | does anyone remember which nova specs are ironic-related? that we ought to look at? | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | I think the 'nova migrate' one is affected | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | anyone from Fujitsu around? re ^^^ | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: maybe put as priorities this week, whatever they are | 17:06 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:06 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | +1 | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: nova resize/cold migration spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/ | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | thanks | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/ has to land this week or it will miss Queens | 17:07 |
| rloo | dtantsur: we haven't quite landed the traits spec; it has a dependency on ironic. did johnthetubaguy figure out what to do to land it? remove dependency? | 17:08 |
| * dtantsur pings ppl on the nova channel | 17:08 | |
| dtantsur | rloo: it landed with the dependency removed | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | spec has landed now | 17:08 |
| rloo | dtantsur: sweet! thx johnthetubaguy! | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova one, that is | 17:09 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: the easy spec ;) | 17:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | yup :) | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:09 |
| * johnthetubaguy feels strange calling a nova spec easy | 17:09 | |
| dtantsur | okay, this was a good catch. any other announcements or reminders? | 17:09 |
| rloo | mention the ironic-inspector meetup? | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:10 |
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| dtantsur | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123676.html Summary of the inspector virtual meetup | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | tl;dr MOAR API SERVICES \o/ | 17:11 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thx! we love API services :D | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | more API services - more microversioning discussions... PROFIT! | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | okay, anything else? :) | 17:12 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:13 | |
| dtantsur | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-10-09-17.00.html | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | the bugs list is shrinking! thanks mjturek :) | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | no more actions items recorded | 17:13 |
| mjturek | fyi - I'm moving bugs to Incomplete so they expire. Is there a better way? | 17:14 |
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| dtantsur | mjturek: better way for what? | 17:14 |
| mjturek | to have launchpad expire them | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | well, you cannot put bugs to "Expired" state directly, I think | 17:14 |
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| dtantsur | so you can put them to Incomplete and ask the reports to re-test | 17:15 |
| rloo | mjturek: why do you want them to expire? | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | or you can close them right away with whatever state we have | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | I'd prefer to give people a chance to say "oh, it's still hurting me" | 17:15 |
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| mjturek | rloo: so invalid bugs don't stay on the bug list | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | rloo: I thought if the bugs are old, we were going to start closing them out. | 17:16 |
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| mjturek | ie there was one about objects using __getitem__ and __setitem__ which wasn't true anymore | 17:16 |
| rloo | sorry, is the intent to indicate that they are invalid, or that they are incomplete? | 17:16 |
| rloo | mjturek: so that one is invalid | 17:16 |
| rloo | mjturek: you didn't set that to 'incomplete' did you? | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | if it is not true any more, that's "Invalid" | 17:17 |
| mjturek | rloo: got it, I did set it to incomplete as that's the state that launchpad expires with | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | if you don't know if it's true or not, you can use Incomplete | 17:17 |
| mjturek | ah, okay I'll set back to invalid | 17:17 |
| mjturek | set to invalid* | 17:17 |
| rloo | mjturek: oh, yeah, set it to invalid then. incomplete is if we need more info to figure out what the bug is, etc. | 17:17 |
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| mjturek | understood, thanks1 | 17:18 |
| mjturek | !* | 17:18 |
| openstack | mjturek: Error: "*" is not a valid command. | 17:18 |
| rloo | mjturek: thx! | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | lol | 17:18 |
| mjturek | lol | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:18 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard line 145 | 17:18 |
| rloo | there's that patch to move legacy* jobs from zuul3 to ironic, should we put the link at L233? | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | totally | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | This one? https://review.openstack.org/511267 | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | the work is no longer "not started" | 17:19 |
| rloo | jlvillal: yeah, that one | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | Question. Is Line 40 still accurate? | 17:20 |
| * jlvillal thinks not | 17:20 | |
| rloo | jlvillal: i think not. | 17:20 |
| rloo | for python 3.5, there is a lot of stuff there but it doesn't look like any reviews are needed? | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | I changed gate status to: 16-Oct-2017: Zuul v3 transition has happened. Some things have merged, but have also seen issues | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | there is an inspector patch, has -1 from jlvillal now | 17:21 |
| rloo | jlvillal: for L277 (tempest plugin), we decided to defer that til after we migrate the legacy* jobs? | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | rloo: That makes sense to me. Will make it easier to switch things since we will control it all. | 17:22 |
| rloo | jlvillal: ok, i'll update the status then if you don't beat me to it | 17:22 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | rloo, for python3.5 its put on hold as per last week meeting discussion(due to jenkins to zuulv3 transition) | 17:22 |
| rloo | question about policy-in-code. there is a question about ironic-inspector, does it need a spec/RFE? | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Yeah, I did the -1, as I think using the tempest variables is a better idea. But people can correct me if I am wrong. | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | I think there is an RFE | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: makes sense to me | 17:23 |
| rloo | Nisha_Agarwal: ok thx | 17:23 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok, i'll see if i can find it/link it. do you think it needs a spec? i don't know what is involved for inspector | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I'm fine without a spec. aarefiev? | 17:24 |
| rloo | dtantsur: if aarefiev is ok w/o a spec, we can approve the rfe. | 17:25 |
| rloo | dtantsur: rfe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1719812 | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719812 in Ironic Inspector "[RFE] support API access policy definition and enforcement " [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I'll ask milan tomorrow, I think | 17:25 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thx. action item? :) | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | #action dtantsur to ask milan and sam about approving https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1719812 | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: how is the BIOS spec looking? you wrote you're going to review it by today | 17:26 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: That's my status as of this minute :-) | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | ok :) | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | are folks done with statuses? | 17:28 |
| * rpioso actually updated it before the meeting | 17:28 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: have you reviewed the BIOS spec recently? I stopped reviewing cuz you had suggested something and the author interpreted in a way that I don't think you meant. they updated so wanted to make sure you were ok with it :) | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I'll put it on my review queue again | 17:29 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thx! | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | moving on? | 17:30 |
| rloo | +moving | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:30 |
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| dtantsur | aha, so the BIOS spec is already there, good :) | 17:30 |
| rloo | we might have still needed the zuul3 one :-( | 17:31 |
| rloo | well, we are hopeful we don't! | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | rloo: at least it's not THAT horrible now | 17:32 |
| rloo | dtantsur: not yet ;) | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | hehe | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | anyway, I've put together a list, wdyt? | 17:32 |
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| rloo | +1 for priorities | 17:32 |
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| TheJulia | lgtm | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | #topic Appointing a bug triaging lead for the coming week | 17:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Appointing a bug triaging lead for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:34 | |
| dtantsur | so. who's up? :) | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | I likely should take care of it this week | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | cool, thanks TheJulia | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | #action TheJulia to take lead the bug triaging this week | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:35 | |
| dtantsur | 25 minutes for anything you want | 17:35 |
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| TheJulia | a nap sounds perfect | 17:36 |
| rloo | 3/3 zuul tests, all failed :-( | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | :( | 17:36 |
| rloo | (sorry, trying not to cry) | 17:36 |
| * jlvillal wonders if he should ask opinion about class level variables... | 17:36 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: can we change the priorities? we should get that zuul one done too. soon. | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | we don't have to put it on list to fix it, but ok :) | 17:37 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: a good reminder. | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | done | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: what's with class level variables? | 17:37 |
| rloo | dtantsur: then let's push up a patch to change our jobs to non-voting! | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | you're entering a funny part of python, I need to say ;) | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Oh this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485799/4/sushy/resources/base.py | 17:38 |
| * rloo is joking. sort of. | 17:38 | |
| dtantsur | rloo: \o/ | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: so, the code is correct, though I admit it's somewhat confusing | 17:38 |
| jlvillal | I just don't understand why not just put it in the __init__() method. | 17:38 |
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| jlvillal | dtantsur: Oh yeah, it works. But why make it harder for people to understand. | 17:39 |
| rloo | jlvillal: so a local variable then? | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: variable lookup works (roughly!) by first looking at instance.__dict__, then at instance.__class__.__dict__ | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: There is this idea of lowering cognitive load. | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | but setting attributes always goes to instance.__dict__ | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: I don't disagree with that fwiw | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | Basically, make it so people don't have to think as hard to understand what is going on. | 17:39 |
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| dtantsur | I personally prefer to keep only constants and class variables at class level | 17:39 |
| rloo | jlvillal: is that _is_stale to indicate that a particular resource object/instance is stale? | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | rloo: I believe so. Like is the cache correct or something. | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | but I know that people coming from statis object-oriented languages like to declare variables :) | 17:40 |
| rloo | jlvillal: how can it be correct at the class level if one resource can have stale, and another cannot? | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | Anyway, not that important to keep us here :) | 17:41 |
| rloo | jlvillal: there's probably something i am missing :) | 17:41 |
| jlvillal | rloo: So when they assign it, it magically becomes an object variable | 17:41 |
| jlvillal | rloo: This is why I say reduce cognitive load! | 17:41 |
| rloo | jlvillal: so they override it? | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | rloo: self._is_stale = something will overwrite an instance variable, not a class one | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | which, I agree with jlvillal, is confusing | 17:41 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Well it doesn't doesn't become an object variable. An object variable is created. The class variable is still there. | 17:41 |
| rloo | jlvillal: so, unless there is a need to do ResourceBase._is_stale, i think it doesn't belong there. | 17:42 |
| jlvillal | So if the object variable doesn't yet exist when you check self._foo, then it goes to FooClass._foo | 17:42 |
| jlvillal | But if you assign self._foo, then from now on, self._foo, is the object variable. But you can still access FooClass._foo. | 17:43 |
| jlvillal | Thus why I think it is confusing. | 17:43 |
| rloo | jlvillal: i mean, why not also have a _json = None then. | 17:43 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Exactly! and please don't ;) | 17:43 |
| rloo | jlvillal: that's my point, is there a need to access FooClass._foo in this case | 17:43 |
| rloo | jlvillal: if not, then there is no need for it (and it is wrong) | 17:43 |
| rloo | jlvillal: in my opinion of course | 17:43 |
| jlvillal | No, I think it just needs to be in the __init__(). We all understand that. No special thinking required. | 17:43 |
| rloo | jlvillal: i'm afraid to comment cuz i don't want to review it :) | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | No need to write test scripts to figure out what is going on. etc... | 17:44 |
| rloo | jlvillal: i'll comment after the meeting... | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I agree | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | I'll put a link to our confusing discussion in the patch ;) | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:44 |
| * dtantsur just saw an IPA patchp passing the CI, w00t | 17:45 | |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:45 |
| jlvillal | woot woot! :) | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | if nothing more to discuss, let me return you 13 minutes of life | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | thanks all :) | 17:47 |
| jlvillal | Yay | 17:47 |
| jlvillal | thanks | 17:47 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | :) | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | thanks! | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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