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| flwang | #startmeeting zaqar | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 01:00:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 01:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 01:01 |
| flwang | #topic roll call | 01:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 01:01 | |
| flwang | anybody around? | 01:01 |
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| flwang | gecong_: gengchc_: around? | 01:01 |
| gecong_ | yep | 01:01 |
| flwang | cool | 01:02 |
| gengchc_ | yes | 01:02 |
| flwang | gecong_: firstly, congrats for joining the core team and thanks for all your contribution in the past days | 01:02 |
| flwang | gengchc_: thanks for joining | 01:02 |
| gecong_ | you are welcome | 01:02 |
| gecong_ | thanks | 01:02 |
| flwang | generally, we use this etherpad to track the agenda of zaqar meeting but we didn't use it much recently, see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-meeting-agenda | 01:03 |
| flwang | this week is the queens milestone 1 release | 01:03 |
| flwang | so today i'd like to revisit the plans/blueprints for queeens | 01:04 |
| flwang | to make sure if we're on track | 01:04 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:04 |
| gengchc_ | ok | 01:05 |
| flwang | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-queens-plan | 01:05 |
| flwang | this is the link we're using to track the tasks we'd like to do in Queens | 01:06 |
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| flwang | do you have any topic to discuss today? | 01:07 |
| gecong_ | Support more backoff functions in Zaqar -- in work | 01:07 |
| gecong_ | Bascially pool group is useless in Zaqar, it is time to remove it -- in work bu gengchc | 01:07 |
| flwang | gecong_: yep, is it ready for review? | 01:07 |
| gecong_ | not yet, in a few days | 01:08 |
| flwang | ok, pls let us know when it's ready for review | 01:08 |
| gecong_ | Support Redis as mgmt storage backend -- in work bu gengch and gecong | 01:08 |
| gengchc_ | yes,I work on pool group function, code is almostly completed, I work on unittest. | 01:09 |
| gecong_ | np , thanks | 01:09 |
| gecong_ | Support Token Session in Zaqar for improving performance -- I will contact with wanghao today | 01:10 |
| gengchc_ | redis as the management of storage function, the code is almostly completed, I and gecong work on unittest. | 01:10 |
| flwang | I added comments on the redis mgmt spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504379/4/specs/queens/support-redis-as-mgmt-storage-backend.rst if you can address those comments, I'm happy to approve it | 01:10 |
| gengchc_ | ok | 01:10 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:10 |
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| flwang | gecong_: I'm really interested in the spec Support Token Session in Zaqar for improving performance | 01:11 |
| gecong_ | ok , I will discuss with wanghao for this today | 01:12 |
| flwang | so you guys are working on 3 blueprints now, redis, pool group and retry policy, that's good enough for this cycle | 01:12 |
| flwang | and I know Lance, keystone ptl is working on the policy in code | 01:12 |
| gecong_ | yes | 01:12 |
| wxy_ | policy in code is inited by lance | 01:12 |
| wxy_ | yeah | 01:13 |
| flwang | and chandankumar is working on the tempest plugin | 01:13 |
| wxy_ | It's in good shape. | 01:13 |
| flwang | wxy_: yep, i saw you're reviewing it, thanks | 01:13 |
| flwang | generally, given the size of our team, I think we have enough things to do | 01:13 |
| wxy_ | Anyone who is interested in can push the follow patches. | 01:13 |
| flwang | wxy_: which one? | 01:14 |
| wxy_ | policy in code | 01:14 |
| wxy_ | Lance only complete queue and message refactor. | 01:15 |
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| flwang | do we have to finish all of them in one cycle? | 01:15 |
| wxy_ | I think we should, it's not very hard. | 01:16 |
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| wxy_ | And this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511749 . Need your review comment. | 01:17 |
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| gengchc_ | [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511749] can't open. | 01:18 |
| flwang | seems gerrit is down? | 01:19 |
| flwang | anyway, I will take a look later, if it's necessary, i can pick it up | 01:19 |
| gecong_ | yes | 01:19 |
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| flwang | i was busy recently, but should be available in next couple of weeks | 01:19 |
| wxy_ | prepare for summit? | 01:20 |
| gecong_ | I will review it today | 01:20 |
| flwang | wxy_: vote for TC and internal Horizon migration/performance | 01:20 |
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| flwang | s/vote/run | 01:20 |
| gengchc_ | I will review it too. | 01:20 |
| wxy_ | thanks, team. | 01:21 |
| gecong_ | I have voted for TC already | 01:21 |
| wxy_ | flwang: cool. | 01:21 |
| flwang | wxy_: any idea for this Support Token Session in Zaqar for improving performance ? | 01:21 |
| gengchc_ | I have voted for TC too. | 01:21 |
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| flwang | thanks for all the comments/updates. i think we're basically on track for the plans on Queens | 01:22 |
| wxy_ | flwang: No, It needs more detail I think. | 01:23 |
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| flwang | wxy_: ok, no problem | 01:23 |
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| flwang | gengchc_: gecong_any updates from the your production? | 01:25 |
| flwang | i mean zaqar on ZTE developer platform | 01:25 |
| * wxy_ leave for some internal work. | 01:26 | |
| gecong_ | yesterday, I attend a meeting about openfog messageing | 01:26 |
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| flwang | any info can be shared? | 01:27 |
| * wxy_ is coming | 01:27 | |
| gecong_ | it is about edge computer | 01:29 |
| flwang | gecong_: ok | 01:30 |
| gecong_ | they need messgae solution | 01:30 |
| flwang | as you know, the adoption of zaqar is still low, so please feel free recommend Zaqar wherever you can :) | 01:30 |
| gecong_ | I will discuss with them in following days | 01:31 |
| gecong_ | yes, I will introduce zaqar to them | 01:31 |
| flwang | if it's not a private mailing thread, you can involve me | 01:31 |
| gecong_ | sure | 01:32 |
| gecong_ | I am glad to hear that | 01:32 |
| flwang | cool, thanks | 01:32 |
| flwang | and one thing you could mention to them is, zaqar can work without the other openstack services | 01:33 |
| flwang | the only work they may need is a plugin for auth | 01:33 |
| gecong_ | they need most is communction between DCs | 01:34 |
| flwang | ok, we can discuss the details offline | 01:34 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:34 |
| flwang | #topic bugs | 01:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 01:34 | |
| flwang | Luckily(unfortunately), now we don't have much bugs on backlog | 01:35 |
| flwang | but I expect bugs in our code | 01:35 |
| gecong_ | I think if we commit our bp, there will be a lot of bugs | 01:36 |
| flwang | as you may know, zhenyuyang from YiYun is working on deploying zaqar | 01:36 |
| gecong_ | :) | 01:36 |
| flwang | so I may work with him to figure out any potential issue and get them fixed | 01:36 |
| flwang | that's the plan | 01:36 |
| flwang | #topic open discussion | 01:37 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 01:37 | |
| flwang | is there anything else you want to discuss? | 01:37 |
| gecong_ | not from me | 01:37 |
| wxy_ | Please register the bugs if possible. | 01:37 |
| flwang | wxy_: absolutely | 01:38 |
| wxy_ | I have a question: Does anyone know what's the current situation about the CI/CD? I found both Jenkins and Zuul. What's the relationship? | 01:38 |
| gecong_ | I think they will immigrate to zuul V3 | 01:38 |
| flwang | actually, Zaqar is also on Catalyst Cloud roadmap for a while, but we have to deploy LBaaS and Magnum firstly due to the low requirements in New Zealand for messaging :( | 01:38 |
| gecong_ | CI/CD is not stable recently | 01:39 |
| flwang | wxy_: i didn't dig into the details of the CI, but I assume the Zuul v3 will replace Jenkins job? | 01:39 |
| wxy_ | gecong_: Which one is the primary? Now When I do recheck, it seems that only jenkins goes, but zuul does nothing. | 01:40 |
| gecong_ | and py27 is always fail | 01:40 |
| wxy_ | flwang: So do we need to do some work in project-config? | 01:40 |
| flwang | wxy_: i assume no, but will see | 01:41 |
| wxy_ | flwang: OK. | 01:41 |
| gecong_ | I don't know , I think they are debugging the zuul V3 | 01:41 |
| wxy_ | Ok, That's all for me. THanks. | 01:42 |
| flwang | BTW, another thing in my mind randomly is, is it possible to rewrite zaqar with Go? | 01:42 |
| flwang | or at least some parts of Zaqar to improve the performance | 01:42 |
| flwang | but the idea is very unclear now | 01:43 |
| wxy_ | flwang: what's the progress that Go in Swift? I think we can learn something from it. | 01:44 |
| gengchc_ | If We can improve performance, can you consider using go or c language? | 01:44 |
| flwang | wxy_: the problem is zaqar is only one process | 01:44 |
| flwang | so it's a little bit hard to rewrite part of it | 01:44 |
| wxy_ | Emm, yeah. | 01:45 |
| flwang | gengchc_: that's my thought, but I'm not sure if language is really the bottleneck, TBH | 01:45 |
| flwang | maybe just the websocket part> | 01:45 |
| flwang | ? | 01:45 |
| flwang | i don't know, just random thinking | 01:45 |
| gengchc_ | I use two nodes to test zaqar based on redis+mongo+haproxy, almost 2000 messages /seconds,but there is big different from tecent(120000/s) | 01:47 |
| flwang | because the status of Trove makes me thinking, we may need to do some changes to get a big improvement | 01:48 |
| flwang | 不破不立 | 01:49 |
| wxy_ | lol | 01:49 |
| gecong_ | support | 01:49 |
| gengchc_ | I agree. | 01:49 |
| flwang | wxy_: my long term goal, just like Gnocchi, actually Zaqar could be an open source messaging project out of OpenStack world | 01:50 |
| wxy_ | Zaqar standalone. | 01:50 |
| wxy_ | All projects now want to standalone. :) | 01:50 |
| flwang | so my goal is creating an open source messaging service with HA, low latency and good scalability | 01:50 |
| flwang | wxy_: no, I say we can | 01:50 |
| flwang | but we don't have to | 01:51 |
| flwang | in a visible future | 01:51 |
| flwang | but I mean we need to have a big goal | 01:51 |
| wxy_ | yes, sir. | 01:51 |
| gecong_ | yes sir | 01:51 |
| flwang | gengchc_: I'm interested in the performance you mentioned " from tecent(120000/s)" | 01:52 |
| gengchc_ | I see it in tecent website. | 01:53 |
| flwang | I will create a separated etherpad for performance tunning | 01:53 |
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| flwang | and we can collect the performance from different public clouds and work out a reasonable goal | 01:53 |
| flwang | then focus on that | 01:53 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:53 |
| gengchc_ | ok | 01:54 |
| flwang | ok, i think that's us | 01:55 |
| gengchc_ | cent website: https://cloud.tencent.com/product/cmq | 01:55 |
| wxy_ | another thing: FYI, Keystone has a bp called unified limits. It's related to Quota. Now Lance and I are trying to take over it. Zaqar can wait for it for the quota requirement IMO. | 01:55 |
| flwang | anything else? we can continue discussion in zaqar channel | 01:55 |
| gengchc_ | tecent website: https://cloud.tencent.com/product/cmq | 01:55 |
| flwang | wxy_: yep, good to know. | 01:55 |
| flwang | gengchc_: thanks, i will take a look | 01:56 |
| flwang | ok, i'm going to close the meeting | 01:56 |
| flwang | thanks for joining | 01:56 |
| gecong_ | ok | 01:56 |
| flwang | #endmeeting | 01:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 01:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 01:56:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:56 |
| flwang | thank you, team | 01:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-10-17-01.00.html | 01:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-10-17-01.00.txt | 01:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-10-17-01.00.log.html | 01:56 |
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