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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:35 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 18 05:35:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:35 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:35 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:35 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 05:35 |
| soichi | hi | 05:35 |
| soichi | Kaz is not available today. | 05:36 |
| soichi | #topic $B<RFb<BA)$G$N=>6H0w$N7r9/B%?J$K$D$J$,$k?75,%5!<%S%9$N<B8=$K8~$1$F!"%l%7!<%H2hA|$NJ,@O$G5J?)$7$?%a%K%e!<$rGD0.$7$F1IM\%G!<%?$r<+F0F~NO$9$k5!G=$K$D$$$F!"Ds0F$+$i;O$a$F<BAu$^$G40N;$7$^$7$?!#4X78ItLg$H$7$F=EMW$J%]%8%7%g%s$G$"$kIY;NDL7rJ]$+$i?);v%m%0F~NO$NHFMQE*$J<jCJ$rDs6!$9$k5!G=$H$7$F9%I>$rF@$i$l(B | 05:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "$B<RFb<BA)$G$N=>6H0w$N7r9/B%?J$K$D$J$,$k?75,%5!<%S%9$N<B8=$K8~$1$F!"%l%7!<%H2hA|$NJ,@O$G5J?)$7$?%a%K%e!<$rGD0.$7$F1IM\%G!<%?$r<+F0F~NO$9$k5!G=$K$D$$$F!"Ds0F$+$i;O$a$F<BAu$^$G40N;$7$^$7$?!#4X78ItLg$H$7$F=EMW$J%]%8%7%g%s$G$"$kIY;NDL7rJ]$+$i?);v%m%0F~NO$NHFMQE*$J<jCJ$rDs6!$9$k5!G=$H$7$F9%I>$rF@$i$l(B (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:36 | |
| soichi | excuse me | 05:37 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:37 |
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| soichi | yamamoto_: do you have any topic? | 05:38 |
| yamamoto_ | no | 05:38 |
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| soichi | okay, so i'd like to skip today's meeting because many of TaaS folks are not availaboe today | 05:40 |
| yamamoto_ | fine for me | 05:40 |
| soichi | thanks, see you. | 05:41 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 18 05:41:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-10-18-05.35.html | 05:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-10-18-05.35.txt | 05:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-10-18-05.35.log.html | 05:41 |
| soichi | bye | 05:41 |
| yamamoto_ | bye | 05:41 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 18 16:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.19 | 16:00 |
| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:00 |
| eglute | Please update the agenda as needed! | 16:01 |
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| eglute | also, wave your hand if you are here for the interop meeting | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:01 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:02 |
| * eglute waves to mguiney | 16:02 | |
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| eglute | anyone else here for interop meeting? | 16:02 |
| georgk2 | hi | 16:03 |
| georgk2 | ui, number 2... | 16:03 |
| georgk2 | well | 16:03 |
| * eglute waves to georgk2 | 16:03 | |
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| eglute | markvoelker will not be able to join us today | 16:04 |
| eglute | if it is just the 3 of us, it will be a quick meeting :) | 16:04 |
| georgk2 | sorry for joining late | 16:05 |
| eglute | lets do agenda out of order today | 16:05 |
| eglute | georgk2 you are on time :D | 16:05 |
| eglute | #topic Scoring 2018.01 guideline | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scoring 2018.01 guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
| eglute | thanks mguiney for all the patches | 16:05 |
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| * mguiney thumbs ups | 16:06 | |
| eglute | i dont think we are waiting on anything else for cinder, or do we? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509337/ | 16:06 |
| mguiney | i think the new capability may need new tempest tests, but the scoring itself should be pretty much done | 16:07 |
| eglute | mguiney the new capability didnt score high enough, correct? | 16:07 |
| eglute | in which case, not really concerned with tempest tests | 16:08 |
| mguiney | ok, then it should be ready | 16:08 |
| mguiney | will likely write one anyways, just for the sake of having it on deck | 16:08 |
| eglute | mguiney writing tests is fine, but it would not be added to the next.json | 16:09 |
| eglute | so i think the patch is ready to merge, i would just like additional reviews at some point | 16:09 |
| mguiney | cool! | 16:10 |
| eglute | next up, swift: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507347/ | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:10 |
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| eglute | hello hogepodge! we are going out of order on agenda, i started with guideline | 16:10 |
| eglute | mguiney the swift patch scoring looks good, if you could add new capabilities to next.json that would be great! | 16:11 |
| mguiney | ah, right. can do | 16:11 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney! | 16:11 |
| eglute | anything else on swift? | 16:11 |
| mguiney | nope! | 16:12 |
| eglute | cool! | 16:12 |
| eglute | next, keystone: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509638/ | 16:12 |
| eglute | it looks good to me, but i would like additional reviews before merging | 16:12 |
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| eglute | if there are no comments on keystone, we can move to glance | 16:13 |
| eglute | once again, thank you mguiney! | 16:13 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512127/ | 16:13 |
| eglute | looks good to me. additional reviews welcome :) | 16:13 |
| mguiney | not a lot has changed, in glnace | 16:13 |
| eglute | yeah, and it makes sense | 16:14 |
| * mguiney nods | 16:14 | |
| eglute | makes scoring easy :) | 16:14 |
| mguiney | yup! | 16:14 |
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| mguiney | just had to go through and confirm | 16:14 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney :) | 16:14 |
| Rockyg | oops. sorry I'm late... | 16:14 |
| eglute | nova scoring was merged, so we are just missing neutron | 16:15 |
| * eglute waves to Rockyg | 16:15 | |
| eglute | anything else on scoring? | 16:15 |
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| georgk2 | i reached out to mark for NFV scoring | 16:16 |
| georgk2 | I would like to help him, but I need some advise since I am doing that for the first time | 16:16 |
| eglute | thank you georgk2 | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | just want to double check on cinder if it needs microversioning information | 16:16 |
| Rockyg | maybe zhipeng can help? | 16:17 |
| eglute | markvoelker is traveling this week, so hopefully he gets back to you soon | 16:17 |
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| eglute | hogepodge so looks like no new capabilities for cinder | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | ok | 16:17 |
| eglute | unless tehre would be new ones if we had microversioning | 16:17 |
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| eglute | mguiney do you think that would change scoring? | 16:18 |
| mguiney | the main thing dropping score for the new low scoring capability is te fact that its not currently available via their client | 16:18 |
| mguiney | so probably not, no | 16:18 |
| mguiney | as for the rest, none of those capabilities are new | 16:19 |
| eglute | mguiney thanks! thats an important one | 16:19 |
| eglute | so looks like no microversions for cinder this cycle | 16:19 |
| eglute | anything else on scoring? | 16:20 |
| eglute | in that case we can go back to the top of agenda | 16:20 |
| eglute | #topic OpenStack Summit Sydney | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Summit Sydney (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:20 | |
| Rockyg | just an fyi. Cinder is meeting inopenstack-meeting right now :) | 16:21 |
| eglute | I have asked foundation to update the session posted, though last i checked it still has not happened. any other updates? | 16:21 |
| eglute | thanks Rockyg, i think we are good with cinder | 16:21 |
| Rockyg | I won't be there, so georgk2 am | 16:21 |
| georgk2 | i was wondering how to prepare the session | 16:22 |
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| georgk2 | and who will be there | 16:22 |
| Rockyg | and hogepodge own te refstack/opnfv session | 16:22 |
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| eglute | georgk2 can you post link on agenda to that session? | 16:23 |
| eglute | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.19 | 16:23 |
| georgk2 | eglute: sure | 16:23 |
| eglute | thank you georgk2 | 16:23 |
| Rockyg | sorry. one hand typing strikes again. georgk2 , I can help you offline | 16:24 |
| eglute | anything else on Sydney? | 16:24 |
| georgk2 | Rockyg: thank you! | 16:24 |
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| eglute | #topic Additional Properties waiver | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Additional Properties waiver (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:25 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512447/ | 16:25 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge for submitting this. | 16:25 |
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| eglute | i have forgotten that we will need to update this. | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | Everyone did, except for luzC :-) | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | Should have put it on my calendar | 16:26 |
| eglute | time flies way too fast. calendar is a good idea, i should have done the same | 16:26 |
| eglute | i am ok with the patch-- any other discussion on it? | 16:27 |
| eglute | ok, in that case, I will merge it today | 16:28 |
| Rockyg | works for me. sorry we missed it. | 16:28 |
| eglute | Rockyg can you +1 on patch? everyone else too | 16:29 |
| eglute | #topic Vertical Program Update | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vertical Program Update (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:29 | |
| eglute | does anyone have any updates for this? | 16:29 |
| eglute | ok, in that case, moving on! | 16:30 |
| eglute | #topic Microversions | 16:30 |
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| eglute | hogepodge any updates? | 16:30 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: sadly no, this is the smallest fire I have going right now | 16:32 |
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| Rockyg | done. | 16:32 |
| eglute | hogepodge understood! | 16:33 |
| eglute | looks like we are ok for this cycle anyways | 16:33 |
| eglute | #topic Add-on programs | 16:33 |
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| eglute | hogepodge this one is you as well, any updates? | 16:33 |
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| hogepodge | same | 16:33 |
| eglute | thanks! | 16:34 |
| eglute | #topic Future project consultation | 16:34 |
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| eglute | any updates here? | 16:34 |
| eglute | Rockyg? | 16:34 |
| Rockyg | no. been a long, fruitless week | 16:35 |
| eglute | Rockyg i know the feeling... | 16:35 |
| eglute | #topic open floor | 16:35 |
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| eglute | anything else today? | 16:35 |
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| eglute | if not, we all get 25 min or so back | 16:35 |
| eglute | not hearing anything, thanks everyone! | 16:36 |
| eglute | ping me on IRC or email if needed! | 16:36 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 18 16:36:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-10-18-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-10-18-16.00.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-10-18-16.00.log.html | 16:36 |
| mguiney | have a good week, y'all | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | back atcha | 16:37 |
| hogepodge | thanks eglute, and everyone else | 16:37 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 18 20:00:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
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| e0ne | hi | 20:01 |
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| lajoskatona | Hi | 20:01 |
| Kvisle | hi! | 20:01 |
| gary-smith | o/ | 20:01 |
| lajoskatona | Hi | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:01 |
| jeremy_moffitt | o/ | 20:01 |
| Zergnomen | hi | 20:01 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
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| ying_zuo | #topic Queens-1 milestone | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens-1 milestone (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| ying_zuo | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-1 | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | I will be tagging Horizon for the Queens-1 release shortly | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | We got a good list of tickets resolved and the backlog has been reduced from over 800 open tickets at the PTG to 634 right now. | 20:03 |
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| ying_zuo | Thank you all for your contribution towards this achievement! | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Even lower if you exclude the Incomplete bugs | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Since we have to wait 60 days for those to expire :) | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | that's right :) | 20:03 |
| e0ne | good news! | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | amotoki did a check after removing Incomplete and Wishlist and it was around 400, iirc | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Which is a huge improvement | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | 👏 | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | I'm really happy that people are helping to shrink the bug list down :) | 20:04 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: +1 | 20:04 |
| gary-smith | +1 | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | +1 | 20:05 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Mox to Mock migration | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mox to Mock migration (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:05 | |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: thanks! | 20:05 |
| e0ne | I just want to get some attention to my patches from the all team | 20:05 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/509618 | 20:05 |
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| e0ne | ^^ it's the first patch | 20:06 |
| e0ne | amotoki helped me a lot with reviewing | 20:06 |
| e0ne | the first two patches are in a pretty good shape (I hope) | 20:06 |
| rdopiera | I promised to help, but didn't have the time, I'm sorry | 20:06 |
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| e0ne | so we need to decide how do we want to go forward with it | 20:07 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: np | 20:07 |
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| e0ne | mostly, it's about code style: there are several ways how it can be done | 20:08 |
| e0ne | the last patch (https://review.openstack.org/510118) should be refactored a bit, to be more clean. I'll do it this week | 20:08 |
| e0ne | I'll be happy to get any feedback | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | e0ne: thanks for working on this | 20:10 |
| e0ne | as discussed with robcresswell earlier, we want to get all patches to be merged together | 20:10 |
| e0ne | so we won't be in a half way on implementing this | 20:10 |
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| ying_zuo | what still needs to be decided? | 20:11 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: codestyle, I guess | 20:11 |
| e0ne | e.g. use @mock.patch or 'with mock.patch()' statement | 20:12 |
| e0ne | I mean what to use in general | 20:12 |
| ying_zuo | I think they are both okay | 20:12 |
| e0ne | I don't think that we should allow only one | 20:12 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: +1 | 20:12 |
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| e0ne | I think, that's all from my side. I'll be waiting for reviews to go forward with this as it was discussed at PTG | 20:13 |
| ying_zuo | cool. thanks | 20:13 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Changes Made in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509038/ | 20:14 |
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| ying_zuo | some of you may have seen the discussion in irc regarding this | 20:14 |
| ying_zuo | It seemed okay since the quota check is also done when the modal is opened and it would mitigate the bad performance on this panel | 20:14 |
| ying_zuo | amotoki raised the concern about the inconsistency that this patch introduced since we normally check the quota for such button | 20:15 |
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| ying_zuo | I’d like to hear what everyone thinks of this | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | I don't really like it, personally :/ 0.1 seconds is so minor. | 20:15 |
| gary-smith | is it 0.1 seconds per row or per page? | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | There are bigger issues with panels taking literally minutes to load | 20:16 |
| david-lyle_ | What quota check completes 0.1 seconds? | 20:16 |
| ying_zuo | that depends on the number of instances | 20:16 |
| e0ne | it would be great to have the same behavior for all such buttons, not only for instances | 20:16 |
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| robcresswell | It's a single nova api call afaik | 20:17 |
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| ying_zuo | 0.1 seconds for one instance | 20:18 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: imo, we have to decrease number of calls to nova, neutron and glance APIs | 20:18 |
| david-lyle_ | Even a single nova api call in a deployed env will take longer than that | 20:18 |
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| robcresswell | ying_zuo: Isn't it just one API call overall? | 20:18 |
| david-lyle_ | Is 0.1 on devstack? | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Its just the Launch Instance button at the top of the instances page | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | "which takes about 0.14 seconds based on our prod env (prod API with local horizon)" | 20:19 |
| ying_zuo | robcresswell: oh right. just that call | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | From the patch commit msg | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509038 | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | I can understand it if its doing it per-row, perhaps like in the Images table or volumes or something | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | Personally I feel like this is a bit of an over-optimisation. Its kinda stripping functionality for the sake of raw speed. | 20:20 |
| ying_zuo | alright. we can revert it then | 20:20 |
| amotoki | joined now. we call server_list() to count the number of servers. if you say server_list() is one call, it is true. | 20:20 |
| david-lyle_ | 0.14 Is much less than we discussed in the horizon channel | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 20:21 |
| ying_zuo | yes, that sounded like a big performance improvement | 20:21 |
| david-lyle_ | Can we just replace the page already :) | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | amotoki: We use server_list to count instances? Don't we just use the limit value? That makes no sense | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | I know in Neutron they dont do quotas properly so thats not an option | 20:22 |
| amotoki | robcresswell: I think _get_tenant_compute_usages() in openstack_dashboard/usage/quotas.py is still used | 20:22 |
| amotoki | but I might be missing something | 20:23 |
| e0ne | did anybody so some perf testing what exactly takes a lot of time> | 20:23 |
| ying_zuo | I think the owner of the patch did some performance testing | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | flwang has a few patches on the go | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | I agree with some, disagree with others | 20:24 |
| amotoki | It totally depends on a scale of deployments, so I think it is better to introduce a setting if it really needs it | 20:25 |
| e0ne | it would be great to have something like https://cl.ly/1C381K3V2U21 | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | I think robcresswell suggested a setting for one of the tickets | 20:25 |
| e0ne | unfortunately, I don't have more profiler results by the hand at the moment | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | filter by image name or something | 20:26 |
| david-lyle_ | Tenant limits call was removed | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | Its just a single limits api call then checking if the current is less than the absolute | 20:26 |
| david-lyle_ | This is usage and limits | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | unless our API layer is doing some funky stuff | 20:26 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I don't thinks that introducing cofig params for different scale of deployments is good idea | 20:26 |
| e0ne | s/cofig/config | 20:26 |
| amotoki | robcresswell: ah, tenant_limit_usages is used. | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | Yeah | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | I really don't think this is an expensive issue | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | The patch itself even says 0.14 seconds... | 20:29 |
| david-lyle_ | At 0.14 I would agree that doesn't make sense. I would verify the 0.14 wasn't a typo though | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | That would be wise :) | 20:30 |
| david-lyle_ | I never had a nova api call in production ever go that quickly | 20:30 |
| amotoki | I would like to know how long it takes as a whole and 0.14 occupies what portion of the whole. | 20:30 |
| ying_zuo | the ticket said the page load is very slow but 0.14 wouldn't be noticeable... | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | I'm kinda surprised you could even do a network roundtrip in 0.14s :p | 20:31 |
| flwang | the problem is we have too much unnecessary 0.14s | 20:32 |
| e0ne | david-lyle_: :) | 20:32 |
| david-lyle_ | flwang around? | 20:33 |
| ying_zuo | flwang: but that's just one call | 20:33 |
| flwang | david-lyle: yep | 20:33 |
| flwang | just in office | 20:33 |
| flwang | ying_zuo: sorry for the interrupt, i mean we have some unnecessary api calls | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | I would assume the issue is usually many small calls happening per-row, so its unnecessary api calls many times | 20:34 |
| e0ne | flwang: what calls do you mean? | 20:34 |
| flwang | for most of the cases as I know, user just want to see a list and don't really care about all the details on one page | 20:34 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: +1 | 20:34 |
| flwang | robcresswell: exactly | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | flwang: But this is just one API call, one time | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Not per-row, afaik | 20:34 |
| e0ne | flwang: it's not True for my customers | 20:34 |
| flwang | like robcresswell said above, it depends on the scale | 20:35 |
| flwang | just double check, are you talking about the image list call or nova list? | 20:35 |
| ying_zuo | we are talking about this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509038 | 20:35 |
| flwang | ok, for that patch, I think even there is only 0.1s, we should remove it | 20:36 |
| flwang | because there are duplicated calls when launch instnace | 20:37 |
| flwang | especially when your nova list take more than 1s, at that moment, you just want to remove any unnecessary api call | 20:37 |
| ying_zuo | but the launch resource button usually has quota check | 20:38 |
| amotoki | this raises another inconsistency: buttons are disabled in some tables and not disabled in others. | 20:38 |
| flwang | 0.14s could be a small time for some deployments, but for a serious prod env, it does matter | 20:38 |
| flwang | amotoki: we should improve all of them if it's the right thing | 20:38 |
| amotoki | what is the right thing? | 20:39 |
| flwang | remove duplicated calls and improve the perf | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | If your prod env is seriously bottlenecked by 0.14s, I think you should be documenting everything you have done so the world can marvel at its efficiency :p | 20:39 |
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| flwang | robcresswell: it's not fair | 20:39 |
| flwang | it sounds like "my nova list api call only takes 0.5s so I don't care about the extra 0.14s" | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | My personal feeling is that this introduces an inconsistency, its ripping code out of Horizon for the sake of tiny savings when there are much, much bigger issues you / we could spend our coding / reviewing / investigating time on | 20:40 |
| flwang | it's true for somebod | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | Its more like, my Instances page takes 2 minutes to load, lets spend time reducing it by 0.14s :/ | 20:41 |
| flwang | robcresswell: i think we're talking about if it should save | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | I understand that your use case is clearly based around barebones data and max performance; but I dont think that should be what Horizon is. | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | We definitely need performance improvements, I just think this crosses the line between performance / utility, personally. Anyway I'll stop speaking so others can :) | 20:42 |
| flwang | okay, then feel free revert it and we can keep the patch in our private repo | 20:42 |
| ying_zuo | flwang: I appreciate that you are trying to improve the performance, but sorry, consistency is important for the UI | 20:43 |
| ying_zuo | it's my bad | 20:43 |
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| ying_zuo | I somehow thought that's more than one call | 20:43 |
| ying_zuo | I think we would like to revert it | 20:44 |
| ying_zuo | I think we will skip the bug reports review for this week | 20:44 |
| flwang | ying_zuo: that's all good. most of the work I'm proposing is to get a better performance based on current status, before the perfect angularized instance panel | 20:44 |
| flwang | but we can't wait | 20:45 |
| ying_zuo | alright | 20:45 |
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| ying_zuo | #topic Open Discussion | 20:45 |
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| ying_zuo | if you have any code review requests or questions, this is the perfect time to raise them | 20:46 |
| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: and all cores:-) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-trunk-ui | 20:46 |
| ying_zuo | thanks lajoskatona. I was going to mention that since you have asked earlier in the channel | 20:47 |
| lajoskatona | In Denver we asked for help to get review even without perfect coverage, as we need feedback to see if the direction for the trunk actions are good. | 20:47 |
| lajoskatona | In Denver we asked for help to get review even without perfect coverage, as we need feedback to see if the direction for the trunk actions are good. | 20:47 |
| lajoskatona | Could you please help us in that? | 20:47 |
| e0ne | it will be great if somebody can test and/or review my IE-related patches: https://review.openstack.org/505617 and https://review.openstack.org/505710 | 20:48 |
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| gary-smith | what is this IE you speak of? ;-) | 20:48 |
| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: Thanks | 20:48 |
| e0ne | gary-smith: I said the same to customer | 20:48 |
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| e0ne | but had to fix these bugs :( | 20:48 |
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| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: Me or Bence can collect the fishy parts (as I remember there are TODOs and NOTEs for them, but need to doublecheck) and send in mail or irc | 20:49 |
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| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: Me or Bence can collect the fishy parts (as I remember there are TODOs and NOTEs for them, but need to doublecheck) and send in mail or irc | 20:50 |
| amotoki | lajoskatona: or you file bugs on them with tags like trunk and/or neutron | 20:50 |
| ying_zuo | lajoskatona: maybe it's in the etherpad | 20:50 |
| amotoki | lajoskatona: or you can add them to the blueprint page | 20:50 |
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| e0ne | 9 mins reminder | 20:51 |
| amotoki | i have one question on ngdetail reload fix. we rejected the fix(es) proposed as it is not a good approach. | 20:51 |
| amotoki | on the other hand, we haven't fixed an high priority bug. can we compromise on an approach at some point? | 20:52 |
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| lajoskatona | yeah some is really on the pad | 20:52 |
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| ying_zuo | amotoki: I think you are talking about this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491346/ | 20:53 |
| lajoskatona | Ok, We can add them to the blueprint page | 20:53 |
| amotoki | ying_zuo: actually I am not sure what is the exact patch we are now moving forward. several changes have been proposed. | 20:53 |
| ying_zuo | yes. I think this is only active one though | 20:54 |
| lajoskatona | amotoki: the patches in question are still open, but we were lazy to fix the missing tests without knowing that the direction is good or not (i.e.: using the stepModels in a perhaps "new" way) | 20:54 |
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| ying_zuo | lajoskatona: is there a problem for the current approach? | 20:56 |
| ying_zuo | I mean if you have any specific question or ran into some issue | 20:57 |
| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: you mean by listing the most questionable parts in the blueprint for the open trunk panel changes? | 20:57 |
| ying_zuo | yes, would be great if you leave the questions on the blueprint. | 20:57 |
| ying_zuo | there's a whiteboard section | 20:58 |
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| lajoskatona | ying_zuo: ok we do that, thanks for the help | 20:58 |
| amotoki | lajoskatona: btw, as a quick look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493070/ looks unrelated to the trunk-ui blueprint. is it related? | 20:58 |
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| amotoki | i wonder there is any dependency. | 20:59 |
| lajoskatona | amotoki: it is, as the creat and edit button uses the transfer-table and Bence found some issues in that | 20:59 |
| lajoskatona | amotoki: so to make the create and edit work that was included to the patch chain | 20:59 |
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| amotoki | lajoskatona: thanks for clarification | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | I am glad that we had some great discussion today | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | thanks everyone for joining | 21:00 |
| lajoskatona | amotoki: thanks for the attentions | 21:01 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
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| lajoskatona | Bye | 21:01 |
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