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| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 22 14:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Hi everyone! o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Who is around for PCWG Meeting? | 14:01 |
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| zhipeng | hi tobias | 14:01 |
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| tobberydberg | Hi howard! | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | How are you? | 14:02 |
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| zhipeng | i'm doing gr8t :) | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Nice to hear that! | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Wonder if it will just be the two of us... | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Can wait a few minutes, otherwise we get started | 14:04 |
| zhipeng | yep :) | 14:04 |
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| tobberydberg | Ok...looks like its just you and me | 14:08 |
| wondra | Hi! | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | hi wondra o/ | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | so, lets get started | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. Review Action Points | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "1. Review Action Points (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:10 | |
| tobberydberg | btw ... etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | please at your names | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | 1.1 seanhandley to catch up with clarkb re: publishing to specs.openstack.org | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | Sean is not around, and I don't think that he have had time to do that either | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | I can reach out to Sean about that.... | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | The other ap:s that we had have been taken cared of....deadline was around the summit... | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 2. Short recap Sydney Summit | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2. Short recap Sydney Summit (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:12 | |
| tobberydberg | At the etherpad we had a bunch of sessiones related to the group | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | ....at the summit ... | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | etherpads are linked from the the topic at this meetings etherpad | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | (feel that I'm crystal clear here) | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | =) | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | In general I think that we as a group had a really good summit....very good interest in the things that we do etc... | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | Well attended forum sessions.... Missing features session was the best attended forum session I was in | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | BUT ... that session wasn't very well prepared, unfortunately | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | did we come out with some of the low hanging fruit ? | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | So, that will lead into a goal for this cycle | 14:16 |
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| tobberydberg | well, not really...but that is a must for us to do | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | we walked through the list, a lot of "cores" have commented on the different items in the list | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | We got feedback of the structure of the list | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | We need a couple of things there... contact person for example | 14:18 |
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| tobberydberg | Better list in general, convert the list into specs/bugs etc, so we can get a clear priority of them etc etc | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | That should be one goal I believe | 14:19 |
| zhipeng | okey understood | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | as well us implementing a few specs that we identify as low hanging... | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | Passport got released, we had a lot o interesting conversations around that | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | other organisations are interested to join, i.e. universities that would like to offer free trials for students | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | initial discussions have been made with the scientific WG around that | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | i think we need to address the issue of (1) support public cloud providers that only have 2B buisness and (2) support public cloud providers that don't provide freemium | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | up for discussion for sure | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | we will probably have even more "filtering" on that list as well | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | Enough from the Summit! Lets go for goals.... | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | :) | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | So, feel free to suggest =) | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | I have a few suggestions....and I see todays meeting as "brainstorming" of goals, to fine tune and take decisions next meeting | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | Right them at the etherpad | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | *write | 14:26 |
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| tobberydberg | So, I started to write some ... add new, change, +1, -1 .... | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | are you still here? | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-public-cloud-wg | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | At that etherpad we have a lot of suggested goals as well | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | i'm still around :) | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | but not sure if we could include university clouds with the current PP scope | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | well, we have clouds that have joined that are selective of customers already | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | UK Cloud, Elastx for example | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | this is just a new kind of selection, and I think that is possible with better communication and filtering at the passport homepage | 14:45 |
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| tobberydberg | Ok. Soon time to finish this meeting | 14:52 |
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| tobberydberg | Please add your suggestions of goals to the etherpad so we can continue that discussion...that goes for all you that reads this offline after the meeting as well | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Other matters | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other matters (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:55 | |
| tobberydberg | Anything else before we close the shop for this week? | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | i will add more comments on the etherpad | 14:56 |
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| tobberydberg | ok | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | Lets it for today then! Talk in two weeks if not in the channel or at the mailing list before then! | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 22 14:58:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-11-22-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-11-22-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-11-22-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 22 15:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hello everyone | 15:00 |
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| cbellucci | o/ | 15:00 |
| jgr | Hello | 15:01 |
| haruki | hello | 15:01 |
| sgrasley1 | Hello | 15:01 |
| christian_op5 | Hello | 15:01 |
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| witek | I hope the new time works for everyone | 15:01 |
| witek | sorry once again for the short notice | 15:02 |
| witek | #topic Slack templating | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Slack templating (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
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| witek | hi dougsz | 15:03 |
| tobiajo | ho | 15:03 |
| witek | we just started | 15:03 |
| dougsz | hey all | 15:03 |
| witek | dougsz: your stage | 15:04 |
| dougsz | Any opinions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519630/ ? | 15:04 |
| dougsz | An effort to make the slack channel notifier a bit more user friendly | 15:04 |
| witek | +1 | 15:04 |
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| pilgrimstack | o/ | 15:05 |
| witek | it's definitely adding value | 15:05 |
| witek | would it make sense to add default template? | 15:05 |
| dougsz | I think it would | 15:06 |
| witek | similar as for Jira plugin? | 15:06 |
| dougsz | Yep, I can add that | 15:06 |
| dougsz | So change the default behaviour to use a template, or just provide a default template? | 15:06 |
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| witek | just adding a default template would be enough | 15:08 |
| witek | that's how Jira plugin is implemented, I guess | 15:08 |
| dougsz | thanks - i'll take a closer look at that. | 15:08 |
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| witek | one formal thing: we don't use blueprints anymore | 15:09 |
| witek | could you please move the blueprint to StoryBoard? | 15:09 |
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| dougsz | yep - sorry about that. I'll move it over. | 15:09 |
| witek | thanks | 15:10 |
| witek | if you're interested in notifications, you might want to have a look at other changes needing care | 15:11 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/435136 | 15:11 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/461917 | 15:11 |
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| witek | they are little older, but would be nice to have them in | 15:12 |
| dougsz | Thanks - I'll take a look at those. | 15:12 |
| witek | thanks dougsz | 15:13 |
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| dougsz | So that's my question answered | 15:13 |
| witek | #topic Grafana - Horizon integration | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana - Horizon integration (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:14 | |
| witek | jgr: that's yours | 15:14 |
| jgr | This one is basically me being a pain about the reviews that will make it work | 15:14 |
| witek | :) | 15:14 |
| jgr | https://github.com/servicecatalog/crowbar-escm/commits/master | 15:15 |
| jgr | Oops, wrong URL | 15:15 |
| jgr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513366/ | 15:15 |
| jgr | https://review.openstack.org/518017 | 15:15 |
| jgr | witek is already looking at them but they could use another pair of eyes | 15:16 |
| witek | I'm wondering if we couldn't make Grafana 4 link style default | 15:16 |
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| jgr | With both of these in it will be possible to use the Horizon session for monasca-api authentication in monasca-grafana-datasource | 15:17 |
| jgr | Hmm. Depends on how many folks use the old style patched Grafana 1.5 still... | 15:17 |
| witek | so we can use Grafana anonymous login and redirect from Horizon | 15:18 |
| witek | jgr: I think minority | 15:18 |
| jgr | Anonymous login, and in the future Keystone (for creating persistent dashboards on a per-user basis) | 15:19 |
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| jgr | I can switch the default over, but I'd rather not break existing installations (even if they're a minority). | 15:20 |
| witek | we could also update devstack plugin | 15:21 |
| witek | ? | 15:21 |
| jgr | That uses Grafana 4 with Token right now, correct? | 15:22 |
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| witek | right | 15:22 |
| jgr | I can do that, but I'd like to do it in a separate review if possible. | 15:22 |
| witek | fine | 15:22 |
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| jgr | I'm under some pressure to get this into our RPMs and the dead line for that is getting a bit close... | 15:23 |
| witek | reviews welcome! | 15:23 |
| dougsz | I'll have to go and have a read of background | 15:23 |
| jgr | But I'll create a task for it and take care of the Devstack plugin once the RPMs are there. | 15:23 |
| dougsz | Will it help move away from the forked grafana with keystone support? | 15:24 |
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| witek | it's a workaround I would say, because you cannot use Grafana's user management | 15:25 |
| jgr | dougsz: no, that's a separate issue. This is more of a stopgap measure. | 15:25 |
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| dougsz | ah ok | 15:25 |
| jgr | dougsz: The problem with using the Horizon session is this approach's feature of not requiring a Grafana login. | 15:25 |
| jgr | dougsz: Instead, it simply uses the Horizon cookie. | 15:25 |
| dougsz | ah I see | 15:26 |
| jgr | dougsz: by not requiring a Grafana login there's no Grafana account for every Keystone user where they could create and store their own dashboards... | 15:26 |
| witek | and own datasources, and apps... | 15:26 |
| dougsz | yeah, that would be a problem for us, we're particularly interested in tenant monitoring | 15:27 |
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| jgr | Yeah. That definitely needs Keystone authentication in Grafana. | 15:28 |
| witek | dougsz: if you need instructions on testing, contact jgr, he's always on irc :) | 15:29 |
| dougsz | ok, thanks! | 15:29 |
| witek | #topic libvirt metrics aggregations | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "libvirt metrics aggregations (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:30 | |
| jgr | That one's mine as well | 15:30 |
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| jgr | Let's start with a pretty picture: http://btw23.de/tmp/libvirt_graphs.png | 15:30 |
| jgr | To make that pretty picture happen https://review.openstack.org/521909 is needed :-) | 15:31 |
| jgr | (because Grafana sucks at aggregating data with too many dimensions...) | 15:31 |
| jgr | Right now we have a vm.host_alive_status value for every VM on every compute node. | 15:32 |
| jgr | vm.host_alive_status only has a few possible values, so from an operator's point of view it really makes sense to have separate metrics for each possible value and aggregate these on a per-compute-node basis. | 15:33 |
| jgr | That allows you to e.g. graph how many running and how many crashed VMs you have on each compute node. | 15:34 |
| witek | sounds like another good change | 15:35 |
| jgr | Yep...and it is another change that could use eyes on it :-) | 15:35 |
| dougsz | Interesting - we have something similar focused on baremetal https://www.stackhpc.com/baremetal-cloud-capacity.html | 15:35 |
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| witek | thanks for the link, will read it after the meeting | 15:37 |
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| witek | jgr: libvirt related, have you observed problems reported here: | 15:38 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001303 | 15:38 |
| nseyvet | sorry I forgot the time | 15:38 |
| haruki | > jgr I'll try to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521909/ | 15:39 |
| jgr | witek: no, but I'm not using monasca-setup for libvirt (I'm configuring it from Crowbar) | 15:39 |
| witek | nseyvet: the time changed, so we have to get used to it :) | 15:39 |
| jgr | haruki: thanks! | 15:39 |
| witek | haruki: would you have a chance to test detection plugin as well? | 15:41 |
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| witek | #topic Bugfix tempest tests | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugfix tempest tests (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:43 | |
| witek | jgu: your turn | 15:44 |
| jgu | I just wanted to buy folks if you have a few minutes for reviews on this quick fix in the tempest test data setup. | 15:45 |
| jgu | s/buy/bug | 15:45 |
| witek | jgu: could you add some logs to the case when the tempest fail? | 15:45 |
| witek | Story would be the best place ;) | 15:46 |
| jgu | yes, where to add to? | 15:46 |
| jgu | i see file a story boardt ticket first? | 15:46 |
| jgu | sure I can do that | 15:46 |
| witek | would be great | 15:46 |
| witek | thanks | 15:46 |
| jgu | it shows up in the java gate job failure for influxdb test case too | 15:47 |
| haruki | witek, jgr: sorry for rate replay, I'd like to check monasca-setup and return status of libvirt so I try to check (with Koji I hope:)). | 15:48 |
| witek | always, or just sporadically? | 15:48 |
| witek | haruki: thanks | 15:48 |
| jgu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520869/ (fix some tempest test data setup checks) | 15:49 |
| jgu | sporadically on my local devstack... but seems to be consistent for the Influx Java patch gate job for the cassandra patches | 15:49 |
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| witek | yes, I have also observed sporadic tempest failures | 15:50 |
| jgu | the test data setup check wasn't complete enough so there is intermittent timing issue | 15:51 |
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| witek | I have seen errors in test_create_metrics with empty dimensions queried | 15:52 |
| witek | to sum up, we need more reviews | 15:54 |
| witek | I will try myself to review more | 15:54 |
| jgu | witek: thanks | 15:55 |
| witek | anything else for closing? | 15:55 |
| nseyvet | anyone using monasca-agent in production? | 15:55 |
| nseyvet | and how does one usually deploy the agent + plugins? | 15:55 |
| jgr | We deploy it in a hybrid manner currently. | 15:57 |
| witek | Helion distibution is used in production as far as I know | 15:58 |
| jgr | We use multiple monasca-setup on the machine with the Monasca services. | 15:58 |
| jgr | That takes multiple consecutive monasca-setup invocations. | 15:58 |
| jgr | On the compute nodes we currently generate the check plugin configurations from our own configuration management. | 15:58 |
| jgr | On the Openstack controller we run monasca-setup as well. | 15:59 |
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| witek | I have to close the meeting | 16:00 |
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| witek | bye everyone | 16:00 |
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| haruki | thank you | 16:00 |
| jgu | bye | 16:00 |
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| jgr | See you | 16:01 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 22 16:01:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-22-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-22-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-22-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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| nseyvet | bye | 16:03 |
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