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tellesnobrega#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 23 14:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
jeremyfreudbergo/14:00
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tellesnobregawaiting for show of hands14:01
toskyo/14:01
* tosky did not expect jeremyfreudberg around14:02
toskyjeremyfreudberg: happy thanksgiving!14:02
* tellesnobrega didn't expect him either14:03
tellesnobregahappy thanksgiving14:03
jeremyfreudbergtosky, tellesnobrega, thanks! it's still early here so i can squeeze it in before festivities14:03
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg is probably working up an appetite for a big turkey later14:03
jeremyfreudbergindeed14:03
tellesnobregalets start14:04
tellesnobrega#topic News/Updates14:04
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toskysooo, the status of the zuul v3 migration is a bit stuck, but not bad14:04
toskythere is a relevant change that I'm waiting for before merging the sahara-tests jobs (if you are interested zuul._projects renamed as zuul.projects, dict and not list anymore)14:05
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toskythe other blockers are a) lack of support for multinode devstack jobs (infra didn't work on it yet)14:06
toskyb) missing grenade job (but the old one can be used)14:06
toskyc) undergoing refactoring of the way jobs publishes the results (I should reask), it blocks the refactoring of sahara-extra jobs (and the change to publish oozie)14:07
toskyand that's it for now14:07
tellesnobregaI'm currently working on two main things. MapR image generation and decommission of an specific node. The first one I'm hitting an issue to install openjdk-8, if fails on the check for some reason. The second, it is not as simple as expected, I need to update the heat stack created by us (services.heat.ClusterStack), I will probably need to add an option to give a list of instances, right now it just receives the amount of instances o14:08
tellesnobregan each node group14:08
jeremyfreudbergnot much new to report from me, I haven't had time to revise the S3 job binary patch yet or fix the thing where s3_hadoop in SIE is breaking stuff14:09
jeremyfreudbergI'll get to it soon...14:09
jeremyfreudbergtellesnobrega, can you explain the openjdk thing?14:09
tellesnobregaSotK, the decommission on the heat side always deletes the last instance created14:09
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tellesnobregasure, basically I'm trying to deploy openjdk with package: java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel14:10
tellesnobregajust like I did for CDH, but it fails during the rpm -q java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel14:11
tellesnobregaI'm not sure why. The error that shows up is runtime error sh:14:11
tellesnobregathat is it :(14:11
tellesnobregaSotK, I'm trying to install with a script14:11
toskywut14:11
toskythat's the time when I start putting print() around if I'm too lazy to go with a debugger14:12
tellesnobregaI did, I even started a python shell and launched guestfs with the image to test it14:13
tellesnobregarpm -q really fails, but it installs with yum -y install, and after that rpm -q works. I'm not sure why it fails on the first time14:13
jeremyfreudbergdo other rpm commands work? (other options besides -q, -q with other packages) maybe your image is corrupted or something? not much to go on14:14
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, I do install a lot of packages14:14
tellesnobregathey all work on the same way, it tests if it is install with rpm -q and if it is not installed it runs yum -y install14:15
jeremyfreudbergvery strange14:15
tellesnobregathere are others packages that don't install, but I took them out for now. I'm working on the most important ones now and see if works and I will put the others back14:16
tellesnobregaDo any of you have had experience with heat stacks?14:17
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jeremyfreudbergtellesnobrega, a little bit.14:18
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, does it make sense what I said about adding instance list?14:18
toskyI wonder how tripleo manages the addition/removal of nodes14:19
tellesnobregatosky, hmm, I could ask around to see how they do that, we can work the same logic14:19
jeremyfreudbergtellesnobrega, i think it makes sense14:22
jeremyfreudbergbtw, tellesnobrega, I might be looking in wrong place, but for your image packing issue, doesn't stderr not get shown (only stdout) https://github.com/openstack/sahara/blob/7bf5ed49bb2a16bf36b9fc54fa78bc28f5d85ffb/sahara/cli/image_pack/api.py#L8814:22
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jeremyfreudbergi might be in the wrong part of the code there14:22
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tellesnobregaI have to make sure that the template change won't break the way cluster stack works now14:23
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tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, that is only for getting the proper output message. It goes into exception there and it should raise the message, but it is empty. But yeah, I can try adding stderr there to see if anything else comes up14:24
tellesnobregawhen I did manually the message was the same, RuntimeException sh:14:25
tellesnobregaoh well, I will keep digging on those two. tosky thanks for the tripleo idea, I will take a look14:27
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tellesnobrega#topic Open Discussion14:29
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toskythere are few reviews for the stable branches: one is a old backport for ocata, two are new fixes for tox_install.sh14:30
tellesnobregaI guess I asked all my questions during news/updates14:30
tellesnobregatosky, I will take care of them14:30
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jeremyfreudbergI might have mentioned this before but there is SAHARA_AUTO_IP_ALLOCATION_ENABLED for dashboard config, this exists because of some nova network detail, *however* it also has an accidental Neutron use case14:31
jeremyfreudbergnamely,14:31
jeremyfreudbergthat if you have use_floating_ips=False it's a very easy way to hide that field from the user in dashboard14:31
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jeremyfreudbergI'm reminded of this because of recent patch to remove use_neutron14:31
shuyingyaSorry for the late. I am in business travel this two weeks14:32
jeremyfreudbergMy question is, does it seem like a legitimate use case? And is it ok to keep the misleading name?14:32
jeremyfreudberghi shuyingya14:32
shuyingyaHi. Sorry for the interruption14:32
shuyingyaPlease go on14:33
jeremyfreudbergthanks, i was basically done with my point. But to put it again succinctly, SAHARA_AUTO_IP_ALLOCATION_ENABLED dashboard config is for nova-network, but actually is kindof useful for neutron too in a kind of accidental way. Is that ok / should we rename parameter?14:34
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, best way to go would be to make the property more clear14:35
tellesnobregamisleading property name are always a source of trouble14:35
tellesnobregado you have a better name suggestion?14:36
toskyat most we can still use SAHARA_AUTO_IP_ALLOCATION_ENABLED, if set, to set new variable, and then kill it in some future version14:37
jeremyfreudbergtosky, right, I guess it's not such an atomic option as I paint it to be14:37
shuyingyaI think this name doesn’t relate to nova or neutron14:37
shuyingyaIt is ok to still use it14:37
jeremyfreudbergshuyingya, my problem was that "Auto IP" is a nova-network concept, I think14:38
jeremyfreudbergbut I could be wrong14:38
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tellesnobreganot sure either14:38
jeremyfreudbergthis is the official help text for the option, btw, we should at least update that https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/9adb63643778a779c571b4898b315b582bf8fba8/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py.example#L79114:38
jeremyfreudbergdoc update as well14:38
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jeremyfreudbergor actually, I guess it's a bit confusing because "Auto IP" can mean Sahara auto ip (`use_floating_ips`), or Nova-net `auto_assign_floating_ip`14:39
tellesnobregait is a bit confusing14:40
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toskyI agree with a transition to less confusing names14:40
toskyor we will have the same talk every 6 months :)14:40
tellesnobregatrue14:41
shuyingyaI am confusing too. If it is related to the concept of nova or neutron, renaming it would be helpful14:41
jeremyfreudbergso, I propose to keep this config option alive, and rename it to something like SAHARA_FLOATING_IPS_ENABLED or something like that14:41
tellesnobregasounds good14:42
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jeremyfreudbergand we will follow tosky advice about deprecate the old option but not remove it quite yet14:42
tellesnobregayeah14:42
toskyyep14:42
jeremyfreudberggreat14:43
tellesnobregathanks jeremyfreudberg14:43
jeremyfreudbergshuyingya, do you have any update?14:43
shuyingyaI would like to update my recently job14:43
shuyingyaYep14:43
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shuyingyaI am in business travel in headquarters to implement deploy sahara service in container14:45
tellesnobregacool14:45
shuyingyaMaybe I can update sahara charts in openstack-helm project14:45
tellesnobregahow is that going?14:45
shuyingyaFirst, build sahara service image by Lola project14:46
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shuyingyaAnd then use openstack-helm project to form the helm template for kuberntes helm14:47
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toskyI'm not following too much the container stuff; I know that TripleO uses the containers from Kolla, are openstack-helm and Lola different?14:48
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toskyshuyingya: maybe you missed my last message: how are openstack-helm and Lola related to Kolla, whose images are used by TripleO ?14:51
tellesnobregashuyingya, did you see tosky's question?14:51
shuyingyaDidn’t investigate triple O project now. But it seems same way to implement it14:51
shuyingyaYes14:51
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shuyingyaI am on the way to go back hotel14:52
tellesnobregashuyingya, cool. It seems like it is about the same thing done in two projects14:52
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shuyingyaSorry. I will update the detail next week14:52
tellesnobregano worries, thanks shuyingya14:52
jeremyfreudbergthanks shuyingya14:52
shuyingyaYou are welcome14:53
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tellesnobregawe are 6 minutes away, do we have any other discussion topics for today?14:54
jeremyfreudbergyes14:54
jeremyfreudbergone more (quick?) thing14:54
jeremyfreudbergabout apiv2, actually14:54
tellesnobregago ahead14:54
shuyingyaToo many excited things want to share with you14:54
shuyingyaWe can share them next week14:55
shuyingya:)14:55
tellesnobrega:)14:55
jeremyfreudbergv1 and v1.1 had project id in endpoint url in catalog, but v2 does not14:55
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jeremyfreudbergso i don't think we can use the same service type14:55
jeremyfreudbergthis is for service discovery, I mean14:55
tellesnobregahm14:56
jeremyfreudbergnot sure what best practice is here14:57
toskyI don't really know, it requires some investigation (if other projects did it)14:57
jeremyfreudbergwith a smart enough client anything is possible14:57
shuyingyaI would like to investigate nova implementations first14:57
tellesnobregashuyingya, do you want to investigate that and update us next week?14:58
shuyingyaSure14:58
jeremyfreudbergmistral and cinder both got new workflowv2 and volumev2 at some point, we should find out what their motiviation for that was14:58
d0ugalMistral copied cinder :)14:58
jeremyfreudbergd0ugal, thx14:59
tellesnobregathank d0ugal, lets find out cinder's motivation14:59
d0ugalbut it was a mistake and shouldn't be copied by anyone else AFAIK14:59
shuyingyaThanks14:59
tellesnobregaeven better information d0ugal, thanks14:59
jeremyfreudbergd0ugal, thx, again14:59
toskyd0ugal: so v3 is still volumev2? I should know that I forgot14:59
tellesnobregawe can check keystonev3 if they changed anything14:59
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toskykeystone is probably the special case that I wouldn't look at15:00
d0ugaltosky: I'm not sure - I am not that familiar with cinder. I work on Mistral.15:00
jeremyfreudbergyep15:00
jeremyfreudbergbtw, our meeting time is over15:00
tellesnobregait is15:00
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tellesnobregathanks all15:01
tellesnobregasee you all next week15:01
tellesnobrega#endmeeting15:01
toskythanks all!15:01
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