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| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 6 14:01:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Who's here? | 14:01 |
| zhipeng | hey | 14:02 |
| zhipeng | i'm here | 14:02 |
| zhipeng | as planned :P | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | hi zhipeng | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | 👍🏻 | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | please add your name there | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Meetup at the PTG | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meetup at the PTG (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:03 | |
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| tobberydberg | Lets start talking about the potential meetup | 14:04 |
| zhipeng | something on your mind for some goals we want to achieve at the PTG ? | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | 1. HAVE the meetup =) | 14:05 |
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| tobberydberg | no, but its always good to meet | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | good event to get more people involved | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | as well as for us getting more into the planning sessions for the projects as well | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | but also a couple of good focused day of actual work on our agenda | 14:07 |
| zhipeng | so typically monday and tuesday are for the WG meetings | 14:07 |
| zhipeng | cross project ones | 14:07 |
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| zhipeng | we could request a meeting room | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | cool, totally agree on that | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | Do you know who to contact for that | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | I can send an email to kendal | 14:09 |
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| tobberydberg | #action zhipeng to request a meeting room for the PTG for monday and tuesday | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | Something else at that point? Or just leave it at that? | 14:11 |
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| tobberydberg | heey adriand! Awake? =) | 14:12 |
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| zhipeng | haha | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | Are you planning to go to the PTG zhipeng? | 14:13 |
| zhipeng | I think topic wise, I want to discuss the blockchain idea with foundation people at Dublin | 14:13 |
| zhipeng | yes definitely | 14:13 |
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| zhipeng | well of course after we have some conclusion from the PCWG | 14:13 |
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| zhipeng | tobberydberg should we arrange a video conf for me to introduce the discuss the blockchain proposal ? | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | Absolutly, that is fine! I have to read up to it as well | 14:15 |
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| tobberydberg | But we have to figure out the goals as well for the Passport program in general | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | yep definitely | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | But, lets leave that for next meeting and then do some prep for that so that we have a suggestion to vote for | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | yep | 14:17 |
| zhipeng | sounds good | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg and zhipeng to define suggested goals for voting to next meeting | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | ok, so next topic | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 2. Make Missing features list u2d | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2. Make Missing features list u2d (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:17 | |
| zhipeng | any conclusion we could use from the sydney summit for the elimination ? | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | Well, I started to prepare for it a little bit in the document | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | we have a couple of good ideas | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | like having a "contact person" for each item so that it become easier to ask more questions etc etc to make sure we all have the right understanding of the issue | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | (that column I added) | 14:20 |
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| tobberydberg | I also created a section in the bottom for old not valid items | 14:21 |
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| rmart04 | Hi Guys, Hope you are all doing well, I’m straddling a couple of meetings ATM so I’m just keeping an eye on the meeting, but whats the ‘blockchain idea’ about? Is there an etherpad I can take a look at? | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | as well as one for not specified correctly, fuzzy items | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng: Guess you have a slidedeck for that right? | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | hi rmart04 btw =) | 14:22 |
| rmart04 | :) | 14:22 |
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| zhipeng | rmart04 wait for me to find the link | 14:23 |
| rmart04 | Thanks @Zhipeng | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1RYRq1YdYEoZ5KNKwlDDtnunMdoYRAHPjPslnng3VqcI/edit?usp=sharing | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | #info Blockchain proposal for Passport Ledger idea | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | so, should we walk through the list of items one by one item "replace" them? | 14:25 |
| rmart04 | that sounds like a cool idea, I’ll take a look! | 14:25 |
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| zhipeng | tobberydberg take us away | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | lets at the same time put the things we can try to have as low hanging fruit in the top | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | Self-service sign up | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | line 2 | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | Pretty big one, but a catalyst have done some good work with their adjutant project | 14:29 |
| jonher | Adjutant self sign-up actually works very well, bu we also did some customisations for "default resources" like network, router etc... | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | lets leave it as it is, its pretty well defined in general, but I guess we won't have that as an easy one for this relsase | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | any dependency on existing core OpenStack services ? | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | ah, cool | 14:31 |
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| zhipeng | ya i agree | 14:31 |
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| tobberydberg | jonher: what would be your suggestion on moving that forward? | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | How to get more attention from the community to it etc etc | 14:32 |
| jonher | The biggest problem right now that I could see from the current setup of adjutant us multi cloud/keystone | 14:32 |
| jonher | is multi* | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | ah, ok. Well worth adding as a comment | 14:33 |
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| tobberydberg | movin on in the meantime and we can get back to that | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Domain-level quota managements | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | NOT at all low hanging, concepts well thought though | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Keep it there and add comments to the specs or pickup the mail thread, which is a major work | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | that I know Keystone has been working on for a while | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | mmmm...I know...comes down to so much more | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | there has been specs approved to introduce the limit api for quota mgmt | 14:38 |
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| zhipeng | I know | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | but at least it is core project priority :P | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | so low hanging enough :P | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | well, we can try to push for it | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | Leave it as is, well defined and documented | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | Project deletion | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | again, catalyst is doing some work here in the adjutant project | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | I would like to have it as a core feature | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | API and user/role based so its not an admin feature | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | okey | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | This one missing specs here that is related to the core components | 14:42 |
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| zhipeng | for project deletion ? | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | yea | 14:44 |
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| tobberydberg | might exist, but not linked into this document | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | ok understand | 14:44 |
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| zhipeng | moving on ? | 14:47 |
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| tobberydberg | yes | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | wrote a comment | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Orphans | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Needs better specification | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Moved it to the fuzzy section | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | even though I'm pretty sure about the purpose, it needs to be specified better | 14:49 |
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| tobberydberg | ...this take some time going over the list....we need to do this offline as well .... | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | ya agree | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | Volume muti-attach | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | scheduled for queens, right | 14:50 |
| zhipeng | that is under dev in Nova | 14:50 |
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| tobberydberg | exactly | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | moving it last in doc.... | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | VPNaaS | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | that is a service outside of Neutron Core ? | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | but, the main thing isnät if it is core or not, just that it is maintained | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | Which is should be now as I understood it | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | yes | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | Remove?? | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | remove | 14:54 |
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| tobberydberg | Extended domain support Keystone | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | looking at the spec | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | or I mean to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433037/ | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | looks like still under dev | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | yea, and not sure it covers the real thing here....might need better specification than "better domain suport in generl" | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | i agree | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | remove ? | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | I move it to fuzzy with a comment | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | So, time is out | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | schedule another day and have a work meeting in the public cloud channel? | 14:59 |
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| zhipeng | that'd be great | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | cool! Next week? | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | thx tobias :) | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | thank you! | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | i'm cool with any time this week as well | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | Ok, lt me see if If I can pull that of as well | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 6 15:00:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-12-06-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-12-06-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-12-06-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 6 15:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hello | 15:01 |
| sc | howdy | 15:01 |
| witek | seems we have a private meeting today :) | 15:01 |
| witek | #topic ptg | 15:02 |
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| jgr | Hello | 15:02 |
| sgrasley1 | Hi | 15:03 |
| witek | thank you all for your feedback about attending the PTG | 15:03 |
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| witek | we have interest from SUSE, OP5, StackHPC, Fujitsu | 15:04 |
| witek | also sc from HPE Ireland | 15:04 |
| sc | I forgot to vote but it's obvius | 15:04 |
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| witek | you have already shared your opinion last week | 15:05 |
| witek | it would be great to have someone from Roland's group as well | 15:06 |
| breton | o/ | 15:07 |
| witek | HPE participation is crucial but I think we could try to make video conference from Dublin if they cannot attend | 15:08 |
| witek | someone from Fort Collins here around? | 15:09 |
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| witek | let us wait one more week for final decission, but the interest is there to meet in Dublin | 15:11 |
| witek | and I think it is important for the project | 15:11 |
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| witek | some more opinions on that? | 15:12 |
| witek | #topic Queens-2 Milestone | 15:13 |
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| witek | just a reminder | 15:13 |
| jgu_ | witek: same opinion here | 15:13 |
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| witek | I'll create new tags across the repos | 15:14 |
| witek | #topic split tempest plugins | 15:14 |
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| witek | just a notice that we have the volunteer for this task | 15:15 |
| witek | chandankumar has contacted me and offered help | 15:15 |
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| witek | thanks a lot for this | 15:15 |
| witek | I'll update the goals page accordingly | 15:16 |
| witek | #topic open stage | 15:16 |
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| witek | do you have anything to discuss? | 15:17 |
| jgu_ | witek: when do you plan to tag queens milestone 2? | 15:17 |
| jgu_ | I was wondering if Cassandra patches would have time to make into milestone 2? | 15:17 |
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| witek | I'll wait until next week | 15:17 |
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| witek | perhaps we'll manage to merge then till then | 15:18 |
| jgu_ | fingers crossed :-). thanks! | 15:18 |
| witek | do you have some deadlines? | 15:18 |
| jgu_ | yes our program manager wants it merged in a week or two | 15:19 |
| jgu_ | :-) | 15:19 |
| jgu_ | due to internal program dependency | 15:19 |
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| witek | ok, we're reviewing the changes | 15:20 |
| jgu_ | yes many thanks for folks that gave time to review the changes and comments! | 15:21 |
| witek | joadavis: are you also planning on attending the PTG? | 15:22 |
| joadavis | I don't expect to, though if you do a virtual session I'll make time | 15:22 |
| joadavis | jgu is welcome to represent my interests. ;) | 15:22 |
| joadavis | BTW, thanks to witek for the info about the project-config for stable/ocata. I put up a review last night that I hope will allow gates on stable/ocata to proceed another step | 15:23 |
| joadavis | for mon-api | 15:24 |
| witek | still waiting for W+1 | 15:24 |
| joadavis | and thanks for catching my 'publish-' miss ;^_^ | 15:25 |
| witek | :) | 15:25 |
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| witek | the tempest tests are still not configured on stable branches | 15:26 |
| witek | with zuul3 | 15:26 |
| witek | I started cherry-picking, but still needs updating | 15:26 |
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| witek | https://review.openstack.org/525230 | 15:26 |
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| witek | if there are no more topics, I'll be closing now | 15:28 |
| joadavis | yeah, I'll see if there is any more assistance I can lend on getting past gate failures for stable/ branches, though I suspect you already know more than I do. | 15:29 |
| witek | joadavis: thanks | 15:30 |
| witek | OK, let's close the meeting | 15:30 |
| witek | see you next week | 15:30 |
| witek | bye | 15:30 |
| jgu_ | bye | 15:30 |
| joadavis | bye | 15:30 |
| sgrasley1 | bye | 15:30 |
| sc | bye now | 15:31 |
| witek | #closemeeting | 15:31 |
| witek | :0 | 15:31 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 6 15:31:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-12-06-15.00.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-12-06-15.00.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-12-06-15.00.log.html | 15:31 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 6 16:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| georgk | hi | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.1 Today's etherppd | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | Hmm...which looks oddly sparse. One moment. | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | Ok, we have a pretty short agenda today as we noted that multiple folks would be out this week | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | (Kubecon, life in general, etc) | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | MOstly we just wanted to hit on a couple of points. First up: wrapping up 2018.02 | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | #topic 2018.02 Guideline | 16:04 |
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| markvoelker | I spent some time last week picking through recent updates to Neutron and seeing what was out there in terms of adoption | 16:05 |
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| markvoelker | I think that for this time around, we'll probably not propose anything new | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | However, LBaaS might actually be worth looking at once we get it sorted in the vertical programs...adoption seems pretty high these days | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | (this puts us right back in the "which implementation" spot, hence why I think we tackle it on the vertical side first and see how that goes) | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Any other comments on Neutron? | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | (or on 2018.02 generally?) | 16:07 |
| georgk | not from my side | 16:08 |
| mguiney | nope! | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | Ok, easy enough | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | #topic add-on programs | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "add-on programs (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:09 | |
| markvoelker | Not a whole lot to talk about here this week either with the small audience. First up: NFV | 16:09 |
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| markvoelker | We had a little conversation last week about scenario tests that might be useful here. georgk, anything particularly new to discuss there? | 16:11 |
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| georgk | I pushed an update after Luz´s review | 16:11 |
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| georgk | more reviews are appreciated. | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | Oh, drat...I totally missed that somehow | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | I'll have a look at it today, thanks! | 16:12 |
| georgk | I´ll have a chat with the networking-bgp team tomorrow | 16:12 |
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| georgk | to clarify what we need in terms of tests and to get input for the scoring | 16:12 |
| georgk | one question: this seems to depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 16:13 |
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| georgk | any updates on this? | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I was going to bring that up later in the agenda so let's talk about it now | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ Clarify testing for interop programs | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | So there's been a little more discussion on the patch, but it seems a little stuck still. | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | For the moment, I think we can proceed without worrying about it too much. Basically: let's identify useful tests regardless of their current location. | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | If the TC decides they want things to live in a particular place later, that's ok--we can work on moving them then. | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | I do not think the TC would want the discussion around this patch to stall forward progress on interop programs. =) | 16:15 |
| georgk | ok. technically refstack can pull in everything transparently due to the plugin mechanism? | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | Pretty much, yes. | 16:16 |
| georgk | ok, cool | 16:16 |
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| markvoelker | I would also encourage folks with opinions or comments (or comments on the existing comments) to chime in...the TC have been asking for more input on the matter | 16:17 |
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| markvoelker | On a somewhat related note, Designate is now a tc:approved-release project in case folks didn't see it | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521587/ Add designate to the tc:approved-release tag | 16:18 |
| georgk | thanks for the hint | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | Ok, getting back to the NFV vertical patch just for the meeting notes... | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519732/ First attempt at scoring trunk ports for NFV vertical | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | I'll have a look at this one in a bit. For the question about which Tempest SHA to use: I generally do a test run and make sure the current HEAD revision is working, then record that. | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | We can update it to be slightly more current after retesting once we get closer to finalizing the guideline | 16:21 |
| georgk | ok, so we pin it to that hash | 16:21 |
| georgk | ok | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | Correct. Bascially the SHA we put in here is a "known good" version at the time the Guideline is published. | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | Folks are generally encouraged to use recent Tempests and many just use the current HEAD revision since it may contain bugfixes | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | But if there's a problem, this SHA is a known-good point of reference. | 16:22 |
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| markvoelker | (e.g. newer revs can introduce bugs too) | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on this todaY? | 16:23 |
| georgk | one thing | 16:23 |
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| georgk | last week you mentioned that networking-bgp would be more ¨controversal¨ | 16:24 |
| georgk | I was wondering abot why | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | Basically deployment and product inclusion I think. I also recall some questions around what was really needed (e.g. something like bagpipe vs networking-bpb, etc) | 16:26 |
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| georgk | ok, from a NFV perspective, I think this feature is very well deployed. I even participated in interop testing between Ericsson, Cisco, Juniper and Nokia | 16:27 |
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| markvoelker | Hopefully less controversial than I'd feared then. =) | 16:28 |
| georgk | I am more worried about it not meeting other criteria such as test coverage. But I´ll include that in the scoring | 16:28 |
| georgk | ok, thanks | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | Ok, short agenda today, anything else we need to talk about? | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | #topic open floor | 16:29 |
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| markvoelker | Hearing nothing, I guess we get some time back in our workdays today. =) Thanks folks! | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 6 16:31:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-12-06-16.01.html | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-12-06-16.01.txt | 16:31 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-12-06-16.01.log.html | 16:31 |
| georgk | bye | 16:31 |
| mguiney | have a good week, all! | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 6 16:59:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | well, this is quaint | 17:00 |
| mriedem | melwitt: tssurya? | 17:00 |
| dansmith | ssshh | 17:00 |
| melwitt | gah | 17:00 |
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| melwitt | I was distracted | 17:00 |
| * tssurya_ waves | 17:01 | |
| dansmith | #topic bugs | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| dansmith | sooo, | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | my patch for belmiro's bug isn't passing the cellsv1 gate job because reasons | 17:01 |
| dansmith | mriedem figured out why (we think), but making it work is going to take more time | 17:01 |
| dansmith | I'm putting it at the bottom of my priority list for the moment, given the other things | 17:02 |
| dansmith | but it's there | 17:02 |
| dansmith | related to that, | 17:02 |
| melwitt | legit fail? that's surprising considering it should be transparent I had thought | 17:02 |
| dansmith | legit, yeah | 17:02 |
| dansmith | while writing tests, I figured out that one of the existing ones is broken | 17:02 |
| dansmith | like, throwing an exception all the time, which is swallowed by the dispatch logic | 17:02 |
| dansmith | fix for that is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525304/ | 17:02 |
| dansmith | it's a simple refactor, worth getting in before we lose track | 17:03 |
| melwitt | guh | 17:03 |
| dansmith | anyway, any other bugs? | 17:03 |
| mriedem | there are a few more bugs in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv2#Agenda | 17:03 |
| mriedem | looks like melwitt really hates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524641/ | 17:04 |
| mriedem | heh, everyone else hates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524755/ | 17:04 |
| melwitt | lol yes, that was "hate" | 17:04 |
| tssurya_ | :D | 17:04 |
| dansmith | ah, I hadn't seen that | 17:04 |
| dansmith | I'll circle back to that other one of mine | 17:05 |
| melwitt | that's a lot of firey red -1s | 17:05 |
| mriedem | i haven't dug into why yet | 17:05 |
| mriedem | but will hold off on that until hongbin updates it | 17:05 |
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| tssurya_ | for starters it doesn't have a unit test case | 17:06 |
| mriedem | yeah that's usually a problem | 17:06 |
| mriedem | i think that's it for bugs | 17:06 |
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| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:06 |
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| dansmith | kinda on this topic anyway | 17:07 |
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| dansmith | I unpinned the bottom of the alternates thing so we can merge the object and the first few patches there | 17:07 |
| mriedem | there are 5 patches in the gate i think :) | 17:07 |
| dansmith | not in the gate | 17:07 |
| mriedem | but yeah, ed has to update some stuff | 17:07 |
| dansmith | but headed there I guess | 17:08 |
| mriedem | there are 3 remaining changes, | 17:08 |
| mriedem | the bottom one is pretty simple to get fixed and passing functoinal tests | 17:08 |
| mriedem | middle patch is +2 - just a refactor, | 17:08 |
| mriedem | last one actually starts using alternates for building instances | 17:08 |
| mriedem | and i have some issues with that one | 17:08 |
| mriedem | not insurmountable though | 17:08 |
| mriedem | and he's working on a patch not yet posted for doing alternates with resize | 17:08 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:09 |
| mriedem | if we can get the build + alternates very close by tomorrow i think we're in good shape | 17:09 |
| mriedem | tomorrow is q-2 | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | oh boy | 17:09 |
| mriedem | in other review news, | 17:10 |
| mriedem | i see the genericify instance list stuff is all merged | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | i need to get back to yikun's changes that used it | 17:10 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:10 |
| mriedem | but hopefully his stuff will all be much more sane now | 17:10 |
| dansmith | yeah, | 17:10 |
| dansmith | I'm pretty happy with how that worked out | 17:10 |
| mriedem | me too | 17:10 |
| dansmith | I was expecting it to be a lot harder and more ugly | 17:10 |
| mriedem | glad you did it | 17:10 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 17:11 |
| dansmith | anything else on reviews? | 17:11 |
| tssurya_ | I have two not so important reviews | 17:11 |
| tssurya_ | I will update them in the agenda | 17:11 |
| tssurya_ | later | 17:11 |
| melwitt | what's the agenda? like the wiki? | 17:11 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:suryaseetharaman.9%2540gmail.com+status:open | 17:11 |
| mriedem | those ^ ? | 17:11 |
| tssurya_ | yes | 17:11 |
| melwitt | k cool | 17:11 |
| dansmith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:suryaseetharaman.9%2540gmail.com+status:open | 17:11 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i've just been posting bugs in the meeting agenda wiki yeah | 17:12 |
| mriedem | since we had a few in triage last week | 17:12 |
| melwitt | oh, got it | 17:12 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:12 |
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| tssurya_ | I have one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1726301 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726301 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova should list instances even if it can't connect to a cell DB" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya) | 17:12 |
| tssurya_ | I know dansmith and belmiro had a discussion during the summit | 17:13 |
| tssurya_ | regarding this | 17:13 |
| tssurya_ | just wanted to know if dansmith is going to work on this or if I should have a look :) | 17:13 |
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| dansmith | tssurya_: it's lower on the list for me than other things, but it's also not super trivial | 17:13 |
| dansmith | tssurya_: however, if you want to start looking at it, that's cool | 17:14 |
| tssurya_ | dansmith : okay! | 17:14 |
| melwitt | I think it depends on what we want to show for a down cell instance right? | 17:14 |
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| melwitt | or did we already come up with something | 17:14 |
| dansmith | melwitt: that's one of the reasons I haven't done anything, because it's going to involve a bunch of api semantic discussion :) | 17:14 |
| mriedem | hmm yeah, either don't list them, or list instance mappings which only has uuid | 17:15 |
| mriedem | or other | 17:15 |
| dansmith | tssurya_: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/multi_cell_list.py#L243 | 17:15 |
| dansmith | not listing them is wrong | 17:15 |
| melwitt | and there was talk of the fallback DB repllica too | 17:15 |
| melwitt | *replica | 17:16 |
| dansmith | we need to list them, but have some way to explain why only the uuid is provided | 17:16 |
| dansmith | yep | 17:16 |
| mriedem | "SOL" for all response parameters | 17:16 |
| dansmith | fine with me | 17:16 |
| mriedem | or that 'idk' ascii guy | 17:16 |
| dansmith | or just system('/usr/bin/fortune') for each | 17:16 |
| melwitt | thumbs up to that | 17:16 |
| mriedem | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:17 |
| dansmith | anyway, tssurya_ you can work on catching that scenario, doing something (anything) and then we can use that as the discussion point | 17:17 |
| mriedem | https://i.ytimg.com/vi/crPl0ITIkS0/hqdefault.jpg ? | 17:17 |
| dansmith | def fill_missing_instance(): # TODO | 17:17 |
| tssurya_ | hmm, okay I will dig deeper, meanwhile if there are other tasks I can assist with let me know | 17:17 |
| mriedem | is this worth starting a thread in the ML now? or premature? | 17:18 |
| mriedem | raising the issue now might freak everyone out | 17:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I've got a week left in the year, so if you start it now, you finish it without me :) | 17:18 |
| mriedem | january it is | 17:18 |
| dansmith | so on that topic,m | 17:18 |
| mriedem | honestly it's probably ptg fodder at this point | 17:18 |
| dansmith | I'll be here next weds for this meeting, but will be gone after that for the rest of the year, just FYI | 17:19 |
| dansmith | I'd propose we cancel all meetings after next weds | 17:19 |
| mriedem | works for me | 17:19 |
| tssurya_ | cool | 17:19 |
| mriedem | i'm out the last week of the year | 17:19 |
| dansmith | because I know you can't possibly have this meeting without me | 17:19 |
| melwitt | we don't want to, no :) | 17:19 |
| dansmith | mriedem: +1 for ptg | 17:19 |
| melwitt | agree | 17:20 |
| dansmith | aight, anything else for open discussion here/ | 17:20 |
| tssurya_ | nope | 17:20 |
| mriedem | nope | 17:20 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 6 17:20:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-06-16.59.html | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-06-16.59.txt | 17:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-06-16.59.log.html | 17:20 |
| mriedem | i am encouraged by recent progress | 17:20 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 6 20:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:00 |
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| ying_zuo | #topic Queens-2 Milestone Release | 20:01 |
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| ying_zuo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525880/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | It will be available in GitHub when this patch is merged | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-2 | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | Thanks everyone’s contribution to this milestone! | 20:02 |
| e0ne | we've got about 1.5 months before feature freeze | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 20:03 |
| e0ne | about one month if we exclude holodays | 20:03 |
| e0ne | s/holodays/holidays | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | until the week of Jan 22 | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | yes | 20:04 |
| cshen_ | how long is each milestone? | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | let's focus on the reviews for the blueprints during Queens-3 | 20:04 |
| e0ne | cshen_: about 1.5 month in this cycle | 20:05 |
| cshen_ | I see, thx | 20:05 |
| ying_zuo | #topic PTG | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:06 | |
| ying_zuo | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | The next PTG will take place on 2/26 - 3/2 in Dublin, Ireland | 20:06 |
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| ying_zuo | I requested two days for the Horizon team meeting | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | same as last time | 20:06 |
| e0ne | sounds good | 20:07 |
| e0ne | I hope, I'll attend this PTG too | 20:07 |
| ying_zuo | cool. that will be great | 20:08 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Publishing server projects to PyPI (amotoki) | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Publishing server projects to PyPI (amotoki) (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:08 | |
| ying_zuo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/thread.html#124676 | 20:08 |
| ying_zuo | Some notes from amotoki: horizon (and neutron) causes a tricky situation around unit testing. Someone needs to be aware of the direction. tox_install.sh is a really workaround. In the past, we explored horizon-lib but somehow it failed (thought I don't know the exact reason). | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Open Discussion | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:10 | |
| ying_zuo | someone left a question on the meeting note for bumping Django minimum version to >=1.11 in Queens | 20:10 |
| ying_zuo | the version is set by the global requirements project | 20:10 |
| e0ne | I think, it was amotoki | 20:11 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt | 20:11 |
| e0ne | to bump django to 1.11 we need to drop support of 1.8 and maybe 1.9 | 20:11 |
| ying_zuo | it's still 1.8 at the moment | 20:11 |
| e0ne | 1.8 is not supported for a while | 20:12 |
| e0ne | 1.11 is LTS, so it will have security updates | 20:12 |
| e0ne | #link https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2015/jun/25/roadmap/ | 20:12 |
| e0ne | we're going to switch to 1.11 in our distro with pike | 20:13 |
| cshen_ | 1.8 is also a LTS version. | 20:13 |
| cshen_ | support till at least April 2018 | 20:13 |
| e0ne | cshen_: it's not supported anymore | 20:13 |
| cshen_ | #link https://www.djangoproject.com/download/ | 20:14 |
| e0ne | cshen_: hm.. do you have any link with this date | 20:14 |
| e0ne | ? | 20:14 |
| cshen_ | I just found the date there. | 20:14 |
| e0ne | thanks | 20:14 |
| e0ne | so, we've got time until april | 20:14 |
| cshen_ | 1.9 and 1.10 are dead for sure. | 20:14 |
| e0ne | my vote is to drop everything older than 1.11 | 20:15 |
| e0ne | we must do it in Queens or Rocky for sure | 20:15 |
| cshen_ | +1 | 20:15 |
| ying_zuo | I will check with the global requirements project | 20:16 |
| e0ne | once we drop <1.11 we would be able to start adoption for 2.0+ | 20:16 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L36 | 20:17 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: it looks safe to support 1.11+ only | 20:17 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: we tested it for a while | 20:17 |
| ying_zuo | I think that will be a better place to bump up the version | 20:18 |
| e0ne | if we don't switch to 1.11+, we'll have new release (Queens) with outdated django :( | 20:18 |
| e0ne | TBH, it will be up to vendors to update django or noe | 20:18 |
| ying_zuo | sure | 20:19 |
| e0ne | it could affect plugins too | 20:20 |
| e0ne | I don't know if any other projects except horizon and plugins use django too | 20:21 |
| ying_zuo | I would think most of them do | 20:21 |
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| e0ne | http://codesearch.openstack.org/ doesn't help a lot: plugins and some old projects have django in requirements | 20:22 |
| ying_zuo | I think that would fine | 20:22 |
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| ying_zuo | are there any other questions? | 20:22 |
| cshen_ | how to put my patch on hold? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518104/ | 20:22 |
| cshen_ | just leave it there, not doing anything? | 20:23 |
| ying_zuo | just leaving there for now | 20:24 |
| e0ne | cshen_: add WIP status | 20:24 |
| ying_zuo | we have two approaches | 20:24 |
| ying_zuo | just want to see what people think | 20:24 |
| cshen_ | e0ne: where to add WIP status? | 20:24 |
| ying_zuo | if one of them get merged, the other one can be abandoned | 20:24 |
| ying_zuo | it's not really WIP per se | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | you can add WIP to first line of the commit message | 20:25 |
| e0ne | cshen_: reply -> workflow -> -1 | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | I don't think that's the case here | 20:25 |
| cshen_ | ying_zuo: I felt the other patch is better. so I'm fine with it. | 20:27 |
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| ying_zuo | the other one seems more favorable at the moment | 20:28 |
| cshen_ | true | 20:28 |
| cshen_ | the other question is regarding the concurrently fetching data proposed by e0ne | 20:30 |
| cshen_ | I had a look at blueprint. | 20:30 |
| e0ne | oh.. it's a hard question | 20:30 |
| e0ne | we agreed with robcresswell earlier today that I'll do some more testing no multinode env with more instances | 20:30 |
| cshen_ | I mean how can I contribute to it? If I have interest. | 20:31 |
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| e0ne | cshen_: any kind of contributions (reviews, testing, proposing your ideas) are welcome | 20:31 |
| cshen_ | sure, how big will be your multinode setup? | 20:32 |
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| e0ne | I've got only 1 controller+ 2 computes now | 20:33 |
| e0ne | not a really big scale, but it's better than was my devstack vm | 20:33 |
| cshen_ | I see, looking forward to your new test result. | 20:34 |
| cshen_ | because I'm also interested in concurrency in Python. | 20:34 |
| e0ne | do you have any suggestion to my proposal? | 20:34 |
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| cshen_ | To be host, not really, I'm also quite new to horizon project and also Futurist lib | 20:35 |
| cshen_ | it sounds promising. | 20:35 |
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| ying_zuo | the whiteboard section on the blueprint is for discussion | 20:36 |
| ying_zuo | but yes, please work with e0ne if you are interested | 20:37 |
| e0ne | we can do it in the mailing list too to get more attention | 20:37 |
| cshen_ | Sure. | 20:37 |
| e0ne | I'll send a mail once I'll have new information about it | 20:38 |
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| ying_zuo | thanks | 20:38 |
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| ying_zuo | I think that's it for today's meeting | 20:39 |
| ying_zuo | thanks for joining :) | 20:39 |
| cshen_ | thx, have a nice day! | 20:40 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 20:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 6 20:40:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-06-20.00.html | 20:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-06-20.00.txt | 20:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-06-20.00.log.html | 20:40 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 20:40 |
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