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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 13 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | Hi! | 14:00 |
| suzhengwei | hi | 14:01 |
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| alexchadin | Our agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#12.2F13.2F2017 | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
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| alexchadin | We have released watcher on queens-2 milestone | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:04 |
| hidekazu | hi | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | exclude locked instances we should wait for an answer from Nova. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506078/ | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: hello again | 14:04 |
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| hidekazu | alexchadin: :) | 14:04 |
| suzhengwei | I am draft the spec for nova | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: cool | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: don't forget, this spec won't be merged before Rocky cycle | 14:05 |
| suzhengwei | en | 14:05 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:06 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: oh, seems that you don't need to write spec | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: Matt: "I agree with gibi that we should have a specless blueprint for this, which can be addressed in the Rocky release at this point in the Queens schedule." | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: just register blueprint with detailed description and assign your commit to it | 14:08 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:09 |
| alexchadin | Add storage capacity balance Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501659/ | 14:09 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: you don't have enough to review it on this week, right? | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | enough time* | 14:10 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: i am reviewing code first for storage capacity balance strategy. | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | ok | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | improve 'Restrict existing strategies to their default scope' needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504857/ | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: why do you think it isn't related to extend-node-status bp? he uses disabled_reason in this commit | 14:15 |
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| hidekazu | alexchadin: this patch does not meet use case in the spec. | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: yes, you are right | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: i'll review it | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504857/ | 14:20 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: scope issue should be discussed separately. | 14:20 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: next ptg (if exists) will be better. | 14:20 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: anyway, please go ahead. | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: will you go to PTG? | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: I will try | 14:22 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: not sure. | 14:22 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: great | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | Add Datasource Abstraction needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518852/ | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it? | 14:24 |
| suzhengwei | I think we should deprecate clielometer in the bp | 14:25 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: Yumeng said ZTE still use it, but they are going to change datasource to gnocchi | 14:27 |
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| suzhengwei | we should keep the step for Rocky | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518852/ ? | 14:28 |
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| hidekazu | alexchadin: ok | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: thanks | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | #action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518852/ | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | 'get_volume_type_by_backendname' returns a list needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523040/ | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: I suppose this bug fix is for you ;) | 14:33 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: yes, code seems fine. i want to try in my env. | 14:34 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: assign me. | 14:34 |
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| alexchadin | #action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523040/ | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: done | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | option to rollback action_plan when it fails needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517179/ | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: take a look once you have some time | 14:36 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | filter exclude instances during migration zuul jobs should be rechecked #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508108/ | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: this one too | 14:38 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | Add zone migration strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521691/ | 14:39 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I can still retrieve services by name | 14:43 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: please, add link to this fix to your patch set | 14:47 |
| alexchadin | well, that's all | 14:48 |
| alexchadin | thank you for coming! | 14:48 |
| alexchadin | bye! | 14:49 |
| suzhengwei | bye | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 13 14:50:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-12-13-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-12-13-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-12-13-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
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| sc | hi witek | 14:59 |
| witek | hi | 14:59 |
| jgr | Hello | 14:59 |
| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 13 15:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hello everyone | 15:00 |
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| jgr | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | only two items on the agenda | 15:01 |
| witek | please feel free to add | 15:01 |
| witek | #topic PTG | 15:01 |
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| witek | I don't have any further answers regarding PTG from contributors | 15:02 |
| witek | is anyone from HPE around? | 15:02 |
| witek | I mean, apart from sc :) | 15:03 |
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| sc | witek: I know, I know | 15:03 |
| witek | the answers I have received are all positive | 15:03 |
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| witek | so I think we should give a try and attend the PTG for the first time | 15:03 |
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| sc | WOW | 15:04 |
| witek | the first two days have previously been reserved for cross-project work | 15:05 |
| witek | Wed-Thu would be project focused | 15:05 |
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| sc | I had some request from freezer for their DR solution | 15:06 |
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| witek | meaning we should reserve the dates 28 Feb-1 Mar | 15:06 |
| witek | sc: can you share the details? | 15:07 |
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| sc | freezer-DR is a solution to migrate work loads in case of issues, they are using monasca to be notified of problems with nova, they wuold like discuss a better integration | 15:08 |
| sc | I guess notification is going to be the best way but may be they can set-up their alarms too | 15:09 |
| sc | these are all details I have | 15:09 |
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| witek | sc: thanks, will you forward me the contact details of the responsible person? | 15:10 |
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| sc | an email is on your way | 15:11 |
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| witek | getting back to PTG, for people not being able to attend we'll try to set up google hangouts session | 15:12 |
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| witek | I initially requested 1.5 days for Monasca | 15:12 |
| witek | so you may start thinking about topics which you would like to cover | 15:13 |
| witek | I will set up etherpad for that some time in January | 15:13 |
| witek | #info January 4, 2018: Deadline to submit applications for Travel Support | 15:14 |
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| witek | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_travel | 15:14 |
| witek | do we have to discuss anything else related to PTG? | 15:15 |
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| witek | #topic Cassandra | 15:16 |
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| witek | jgu: I have reviewed your changes this week | 15:17 |
| witek | code looks fine for me | 15:17 |
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| witek | I'm still not quite happy with doc but I don't want to hold this change anymore | 15:17 |
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| witek | so I'll submit a follow-up for docu | 15:18 |
| jgu | witek: thank you. I saw the last comments. and I am not happy with the offset doc part either. | 15:18 |
| witek | :) | 15:18 |
| jgu | that sounds good to me! | 15:18 |
| witek | what we could do after merging and before tagging is to bump the version numbers in pom files | 15:19 |
| witek | for monasca-common and persister | 15:20 |
| jgu | the subminor? | 15:20 |
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| witek | which one is it? :) | 15:21 |
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| jgu | from 1.2.1-SNAPSHOT to 1.2.2-SNAPSHOT? | 15:21 |
| sc | so at the end... I'm ready for the workflow+1 :-) | 15:21 |
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| witek | 1.3.0 | 15:22 |
| witek | do we need the SNAPSHOT tag? | 15:22 |
| witek | doesn't matter, we can leave SNAPSHOT | 15:23 |
| jgu | sure, 1.3.0. I see there is the snapshot tag in the pom xml | 15:23 |
| jgu | ok | 15:23 |
| witek | can you update the condition in test_dimensions.py? | 15:25 |
| jgu | I have not got the chance to look at that code yet, but I think I can. | 15:25 |
| witek | ok, fine | 15:25 |
| witek | are we done on this? | 15:26 |
| witek | #topic open stage | 15:26 |
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| jgu | thanks Witek | 15:27 |
| jgu | and sc | 15:27 |
| witek | is joadavis around? | 15:27 |
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| witek | wanted to ask about update on Ceilometer publisher | 15:28 |
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| witek | apparently not | 15:28 |
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| witek | https://review.openstack.org/523311 | 15:29 |
| jgu | I am pinging him | 15:29 |
| witek | Amir, are you around? | 15:29 |
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| witek | he's submitted policy enforcement engine | 15:30 |
| witek | which is part of our community wide goal | 15:30 |
| witek | reviewer are very welcome | 15:30 |
| witek | reviewers | 15:30 |
| witek | jgr: could you have a look? ^^ | 15:31 |
| jgu | witek: yes | 15:31 |
| jgu | not me | 15:32 |
| jgu | :-) | 15:32 |
| jgr | witek: Yes :-) | 15:32 |
| witek | :) | 15:32 |
| witek | thanks a lot | 15:32 |
| jgr | witek: probably only tomorow, though (but I'll be sure to block some time for it tomorrow). | 15:33 |
| witek | that's great, I'll have a look too | 15:34 |
| jgr | Maybe today. Depends on how much more fun I'll have with Cassandra :-) | 15:34 |
| witek | want to get zuul3 jobs on stable/ocata first | 15:34 |
| jgr | (currently trying to turn that into a RPM built from source. Maven hell :-)) | 15:35 |
| witek | oh, I can imagine | 15:35 |
| jgr | Ah, Zuul3 on Ocata is very much appreciated. Thanks :-) | 15:35 |
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| witek | do we have any other topics for today? | 15:36 |
| witek | next week will be the last meeting before Christmas | 15:37 |
| witek | then I will probably away for two weeks | 15:37 |
| sc | witek: I'm on holiday so I'm pretty sure I'll be offline | 15:37 |
| witek | yes, we should cancel the meeting on 27.12 | 15:38 |
| sc | so see you next year | 15:38 |
| witek | sc: you're on holiday next week already? | 15:39 |
| sc | I'm on holiday next week and working the week after Christmas | 15:40 |
| witek | Merry Christmas :) | 15:40 |
| witek | ok, thank you everyone for today | 15:41 |
| witek | see you next week | 15:41 |
| witek | bye | 15:41 |
| jgr | See you! | 15:41 |
| jgu | bye | 15:41 |
| sc | bye | 15:41 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 13 15:42:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-12-13-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-12-13-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 13 20:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
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| ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:00 |
| cshen | hello | 20:01 |
| cleong | hi | 20:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | I don’t have any notices this week so we will start the open discussion now | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Open Discussion | 20:01 |
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| cshen | e0ne I saw your mail in the mailing list. | 20:02 |
| cshen | regarding parallel fetching the data. | 20:03 |
| e0ne | cshen: do you have any input on this topic? | 20:03 |
| cshen | Actually I'd like to see more test results, meaning a bigger openstack environment. | 20:04 |
| e0ne | cshen: unfortunately, I don't have such environment by the hand now | 20:04 |
| cshen | the new approach had some improvement, but not so dramatically. | 20:05 |
| e0ne | we did some testing on 100 nodes last year, but I failed to find results | 20:05 |
| cshen | 100 nodes, meaning VMs or? | 20:05 |
| e0ne | I mean 100 compute nodes | 20:05 |
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| e0ne | I remember that parallel fetching was faster, but I can't prove it atm | 20:06 |
| cshen | I see, the cluster my company is setting up, is just about 30-40 computer nodes. | 20:06 |
| cshen | in theory, it should be faster, no doubt | 20:06 |
| e0ne | I hope it's obviously for all that parallel API calls are faster than linear | 20:07 |
| cshen | true | 20:07 |
| e0ne | it would be good if you are able to test it on your env | 20:07 |
| cshen | sure, if I have some results, I would let you know. | 20:07 |
| e0ne | thanks | 20:08 |
| cshen | np, will get you in contact individually. | 20:08 |
| e0ne | we really haven't a lot of time to get it merged in Queens:( | 20:08 |
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| cshen | during the Christmas holiday, I might have some time to test the patch. | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | that's right. so that's the main reason that this blueprint hasn't been approved | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | one of the main reasons | 20:10 |
| cshen | Ok, I understand. | 20:10 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: we already have some parallel API calls merged before blueprint was filed | 20:10 |
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| ying_zuo | yes, the other thing is that you prefer to use GreenThreadPoolExecutor | 20:11 |
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| e0ne | yes, that's is a new thing which we're discussing last 2 months | 20:12 |
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| ying_zuo | I am just saying it's different from what's been merged | 20:12 |
| e0ne | sure | 20:13 |
| e0ne | you're right | 20:13 |
| e0ne | we're blocked now | 20:13 |
| ying_zuo | yes, mainly for the testing result for this change. | 20:14 |
| e0ne | we don't merge new patches with ThreadPoolExecutor and do not have a decision how to get forward | 20:14 |
| ying_zuo | are there other patches using ThreadPoolExecutor? | 20:14 |
| e0ne | not yet at the moment | 20:15 |
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| e0ne | oh, I'm sorry | 20:15 |
| e0ne | there are several patches with use ThreadPoolExecutor | 20:15 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/fetch-resources-in-parallel | 20:16 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426493/20 | 20:16 |
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| ying_zuo | I thought you think it's better to use GreenThreadPoolExecutor? | 20:18 |
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| e0ne | 1) it's faster a bit. 2) it consumes less memory. 3) it doesn't relate on apache/uwsgi configuration | 20:18 |
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| e0ne | so I'm all for GreenThreadPoolExecutor | 20:19 |
| ying_zuo | so are you planning to change your patch to use that? | 20:19 |
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| e0ne | my patches used ThreadPoolExecutor before I did some testing | 20:20 |
| e0ne | I'll change them once we decide what pool executor will we use | 20:20 |
| ying_zuo | there are some questions about the performance data | 20:20 |
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| ying_zuo | once we have that, I think we are good to proceed | 20:21 |
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| e0ne | ying_zuo: what questions do you mean? | 20:21 |
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| ying_zuo | the question is not from me | 20:21 |
| e0ne | I tried to answer amotoki's question in the ML and on the last meeting | 20:22 |
| ying_zuo | is he okay with that? | 20:23 |
| e0ne | also, I did some more tests as robcresswell asked to do | 20:23 |
| e0ne | I'll ask amotoki tomorrow. I didn't get a lear answer yet:( | 20:23 |
| ying_zuo | cool. thanks | 20:23 |
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| e0ne | I'll update blueprint after discussion with robcresswell and amotoki | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | +1 | 20:25 |
| ying_zuo | are there any other questions from anyone? | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | have you people seen the 1 year cycle proposal? | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | I wonder if we should discuss this? | 20:26 |
| e0ne | I saw a thread in a ML but didn't read yet | 20:26 |
| ying_zuo | do you have a link? | 20:27 |
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| rdopiera | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125473.html | 20:27 |
| rdopiera | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125473.html | 20:27 |
| ying_zuo | thanks | 20:28 |
| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125473.html | 20:28 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: you're faster :) | 20:28 |
| rdopiera | I had it open | 20:28 |
| e0ne | there are 38 responses already | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | no wonder, it's a very dramatic change | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | perhaps it's too early to discuss it yet | 20:29 |
| e0ne | I hope, there is no a much of bikeshedding | 20:29 |
| ying_zuo | I don't see much gain for making this change | 20:31 |
| ying_zuo | I think planning for half year is better for one year | 20:32 |
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| rdopiera | having just finished my work on downstream Pike, and seeing featurre freeze just as I'm ready to work on features, I would kinda see some sense it that | 20:32 |
| rdopiera | but that's probably just me | 20:33 |
| ying_zuo | good point | 20:33 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: I totally agree with you from vendor's point of view | 20:33 |
| e0ne | we still didn't finish all pike-related activities | 20:34 |
| ying_zuo | the feature freeze causes some delay | 20:34 |
| ying_zuo | would be good to somehow shorten the time of feature freeze | 20:34 |
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| rdopiera | then there is more risk for the new features to introduce bugs | 20:35 |
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| rdopiera | and less time to stabilize | 20:35 |
| e0ne | 6 months is a very little time for vendors to prepare a new version | 20:35 |
| rdopiera | I have to admit that pike was exceptionally disastrous for us in terms of being late for everythin -- it's not normally that bad | 20:36 |
| ying_zuo | the vendors will just pick up the latest stable release at the time that they want to upgrade | 20:37 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: it doesn't work in a such way. we do a lot of downstream activities like custom patches, packaging, testing, etc | 20:38 |
| e0ne | vendors can't just pick up the latest stable | 20:38 |
| ying_zuo | yes, I meant at the time that they want to do the upgrade | 20:39 |
| e0ne | especially, when we've got customers with an old-old releases | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | I think you two mean different things by "vendors" | 20:39 |
| e0ne | I mean OpenStack distro vendors | 20:39 |
| ying_zuo | I meant the downstrem | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | basically the companies that package and sell openstack | 20:40 |
| ying_zuo | downstream | 20:40 |
| dklyle | don't you worry about upgrades? 1 full year of API/config drift? | 20:40 |
| dklyle | vs having to sync every six months? | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | dklyle: the update path would be tested either way | 20:41 |
| dklyle | understood, but the closer we stayed to master the easier it was to upgrade | 20:41 |
| rdopiera | to be honest, most large users of openstack don't update until a year or two after a release, if ever | 20:42 |
| dklyle | take in small chunks rather than large rewrites of downstream code | 20:42 |
| e0ne | it could be a nightmare for those, who use master branch in production | 20:42 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 :( | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: that's self-inflicted pain | 20:42 |
| e0ne | :) | 20:43 |
| dklyle | waiting 1+ year for a feature is another type of pain | 20:43 |
| cshen | so far openstack doesn't have a LTS version. | 20:43 |
| rdopiera | dklyle: there are backports | 20:43 |
| dklyle | for bugs | 20:43 |
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| rdopiera | dklyle: depending on the vendor | 20:43 |
| dklyle | but yes you could carry a backport downstream | 20:43 |
| e0ne | dklyle: it depends on feature. we have to wait few years even with a current releases | 20:43 |
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| dklyle | maybe things are stable enough that absorbing the changes is easier | 20:44 |
| * e0ne doesn't backport features | 20:44 | |
| * rdopiera sometimes has to | 20:44 | |
| dklyle | used to be whole packages and libraries would be replaced | 20:44 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: :( | 20:44 |
| dklyle | when you start combining that for downstream code | 20:44 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: yeah, we fight against it every time | 20:44 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: and we do have LTS | 20:44 |
| e0ne | but project still have ability to do releases more often | 20:45 |
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| rdopiera | and of course most backports are to LTS | 20:45 |
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| amotoki | perhaps the points are how long we consider backports and how many releases we support upgrade (one/two/more and/or LTS) | 20:45 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: we still have customers with mitaka. but in general, we don't backport features to our distro | 20:45 |
| e0ne | amotoki: good morning! | 20:46 |
| amotoki | morning | 20:46 |
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| amotoki | not a small number of operators have their own stable branches | 20:46 |
| amotoki | that is one of main motivations of community-driven stable branches (LTS discussion) | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | yeah, it would be nice to join forces on that | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | spread the effort a bit | 20:47 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: do you still work for RedHat? | 20:48 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: yes | 20:48 |
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| amotoki | as you all may know, LTS discussion was split into two discussions: LTS/longer stable branches and longer release cycle | 20:48 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: we didn't do a feature backport in a while (our managmenet usually takes our side), but it's always a possibility | 20:48 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: understand... we have some customization for customers some times | 20:49 |
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| rdopiera | that fortunately we don't do :) | 20:49 |
| rdopiera | in any case, there are also obvious drawbacks to the longer cycle | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | harder to plan for the whole year, for sure | 20:51 |
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| rdopiera | changes that need api changes in other services will take longer to land | 20:51 |
| rdopiera | all the deprecation process will take longer | 20:51 |
| e0ne | :( | 20:51 |
| e0ne | I think, TC should re-think deprecation policy for annual releases | 20:52 |
| amotoki | rdopiera: good list of drawbacks :) | 20:52 |
| e0ne | I do not want su support something deprecated for 2-3 years:( | 20:52 |
| e0ne | s/su/to | 20:53 |
| rdopiera | we have to support it for at least one version | 20:54 |
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| rdopiera | we can't just remove something fom release to release without any warning | 20:54 |
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| amotoki | i have another topic: RBAC/policy (if you can), but you can discuss it next or next next ... meetings | 20:55 |
| rdopiera | I think it's too early to really discuss the cycle length change now | 20:55 |
| ying_zuo | amotoki: can you put that on the agenda of the next meeting? | 20:56 |
| rdopiera | I just brought it up because I saw it just now and it was fresh in my mind | 20:56 |
| amotoki | ying_zuo: okay, but perhaps I will not be there | 20:56 |
| e0ne | amotoki: there're only 5 mins left :( | 20:56 |
| amotoki | my point is we have several number of obsolete policies in our code | 20:56 |
| amotoki | like https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/api/keystone.py#L325-L331 | 20:57 |
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| amotoki | my question to you is how we can avoid or detect such things. | 20:57 |
| amotoki | it would be nice if you think and/or gather ideas next week | 20:57 |
| dklyle | amotoki, those methods are problematic | 20:57 |
| dklyle | I had the idea of a proper policy system for horizon, but never got to finish it | 20:58 |
| amotoki | after updating keystone_policy.json, i cannot see Modify Quotas action due to a broken is_cloud_admin :( | 20:58 |
| amotoki | dklyle: it would be nice if you share your thought | 20:59 |
| dklyle | ideally we'd have a horizon specific policy that would create the mappings to other services policies | 20:59 |
| dklyle | and not stuff them in code | 20:59 |
| dklyle | but rather config | 20:59 |
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| amotoki | another kind of policy-in-code? | 20:59 |
| dklyle | but it's a sizeable rewrite, but the existing system is inflexible | 20:59 |
| dklyle | amotoki, more like a horizon policy file, in a policy.json file | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | sorry, we are running out of time. Please continue the discussion in #openstack-horizon. | 21:00 |
| amotoki | dklyle: you seem to have nice idea :) | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 13 21:00:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-13-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-13-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-12-13-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| dklyle | where dashboard:create_instance would map to compute:create_instance volume:list network:list | 21:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith: did we agree to no meeting last week? | 21:01 |
| dansmith | oh um | 21:01 |
| dansmith | no, I think we said we would, I just didn't get a calendar reminder for some reason | 21:01 |
| dansmith | are people here for it? | 21:01 |
| mriedem | i am | 21:01 |
| tssurya | me here | 21:01 |
| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 13 21:02:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:02 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:02 |
| tssurya | o/ | 21:02 |
| dansmith | sorry about that, I dunno what happened | 21:02 |
| dansmith | #topic bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:02 | |
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| dansmith | any new bugs? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | there was the one mriedem fixed, | 21:03 |
| dansmith | although it's not really strictly cells related | 21:03 |
| dansmith | the marker one in build requests I mean | 21:03 |
| mriedem | just noticed the fix was already approved, thanks | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527564/ | 21:03 |
| dansmith | needs a recheck | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i'll be backporting that one | 21:03 |
| mriedem | yeah was just looking at the test results | 21:03 |
| dansmith | any other boogs? | 21:03 |
| mriedem | nothing else that's new in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv2#Agenda | 21:04 |
| mriedem | but those bugs have changes up | 21:04 |
| mriedem | tssurya: looks like cdent asked you to change one thing in one of yours | 21:04 |
| dansmith | cool | 21:04 |
| tssurya | mriedem : yes | 21:04 |
| tssurya | training week, will work on it :D | 21:04 |
| dansmith | moving on? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:05 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | they are just in that link above | 21:05 |
| dansmith | yeah, | 21:05 |
| dansmith | and some remaining bits of ed's alternates set right? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | yeah, so on that, | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527289/ | 21:06 |
| mriedem | which is an ironic change, dependent on ed's series, | 21:06 |
| mriedem | to run ironic in superconductor mode since they need reschedules | 21:06 |
| mriedem | it failed on a reschedule trying to go back up from the cell | 21:06 |
| mriedem | so something busted there, but i have'nt dug through the logs to trace the request id to see that we're properly trying the alternate | 21:07 |
| mriedem | was hoping ed would do that before i did :) | 21:07 |
| dansmith | okay well good that you tested | 21:07 |
| * mriedem wags tail | 21:07 | |
| dansmith | and that'll give ed something to chew on | 21:07 |
| dansmith | anything else worth noting? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | don't think so | 21:07 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | reminder I'm (effing) out the rest of the year after tomorrow | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | couldn't be happier about it | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i have 2 things i'll be bugging you about tomorrow | 21:08 |
| dansmith | oh? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | well, i need to, but haven't started yet | 21:08 |
| mriedem | 1. i need to go over yikun's multi-cell migrations paging thing again | 21:09 |
| mriedem | and if i'm cool about it i was going to ask you to look | 21:09 |
| dansmith | ack | 21:09 |
| dansmith | forgot to circle back to that I guess | 21:09 |
| mriedem | 2. not cells related, but i needed to start this thing in sean mooneys series about starting a wait thread for live migration (the vif plugged callback) | 21:09 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i just haven't started it yet and might have some questions | 21:09 |
| mriedem | but we'll see | 21:09 |
| mriedem | otherwise have a happy gd holidays | 21:10 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:10 |
| dansmith | anything else from anyone else? | 21:10 |
| tssurya | Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!! since this is the last cells meeting for this year :D | 21:10 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is that a holiday cheer wave, or a raising your hand for something else? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | cheer | 21:11 |
| mriedem | i'm good to go | 21:11 |
| dansmith | cool, carry on then | 21:11 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting with prejudice | 21:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 13 21:11:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-13-21.02.html | 21:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-13-21.02.txt | 21:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-12-13-21.02.log.html | 21:12 |
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