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| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
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| kaz | #startmeeting taas | 05:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 05:31:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kaz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:31 |
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| reedip | o/ | 05:42 |
| kaz | reedip: hi | 05:42 |
| reedip | hello kaz, how are you ? | 05:42 |
| kaz | I'm fine, and you? | 05:42 |
| reedip | I am ok... | 05:43 |
| kaz | good. | 05:43 |
| reedip | kaz, what is the update for TaaS? | 05:43 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:43 |
| kaz | yamamoto: hi | 05:43 |
| kaz | I send a e-mail about Join in Neutron Stadium. | 05:43 |
| reedip | I have not been active in TaaS but know thta Vinay and Anil are not responding for a long time... | 05:43 |
| reedip | yamamoto hi... | 05:43 |
| yamamoto | do any of you know other ways to contact them? eg. another email | 05:45 |
| kaz | yamamoto: no i do not. | 05:46 |
| reedip | no, I do not | 05:46 |
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| yamamoto | at least Anil reviewed some patches recently | 05:50 |
| kaz | Yes. He posted Code-Review+2 in https://review.openstack.org/522690 last week. | 05:50 |
| yamamoto | so at least he's reading mails from gerrit :-) | 05:53 |
| kaz | i think so! | 05:53 |
| kaz | reedip: thank you for review of my QoS patch. | 05:58 |
| yamamoto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532725/ | 06:03 |
| kaz | yamamoto: thank you. | 06:03 |
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| yamamoto | any other topics? | 06:13 |
| kaz | no | 06:14 |
| kaz | so, let's discuss about how to join in Neutron Stadium from next week. | 06:15 |
| yamamoto | kaz: in case Anil and Vinay won't respond, are you interested in taking over the project? | 06:15 |
| yamamoto | as it seems you're the most active person these days... | 06:16 |
| kaz | yamamoto: i will think about it. | 06:17 |
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| kaz | Can we close today's IRC? | 06:19 |
| yamamoto | sure | 06:19 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 06:19 |
| kaz | thank you. | 06:19 |
| kaz | #endmeeting | 06:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 06:19:19 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2018/taas.2018-01-17-05.31.html | 06:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2018/taas.2018-01-17-05.31.txt | 06:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2018/taas.2018-01-17-05.31.log.html | 06:19 |
| kaz | bye | 06:19 |
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| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:00 |
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| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | Anyone around for publiccloud-wg meeting? | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | Hi pilgrimstack | 14:09 |
| pilgrimstack | I'm partially with you guys (parralele meetings) | 14:09 |
| pilgrimstack | I had a question, what where the conclusion after the feature request list meeting ? | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | Just the two of us right now so I wait a couple of minutes before we start officially | 14:10 |
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| pilgrimstack | ok | 14:10 |
| pilgrimstack | what were | 14:10 |
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| tobberydberg | Conclusion was that we worked the list so to say...checked all items to identify what information that is missing, if it is no longer needed and so on | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | We will need to continue to work with it so get it fully up to date | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | THEN ... convert the "active items" into bugs/specs into launchpad for a more official prio list | 14:13 |
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| tobberydberg | Morning zhipeng =) | 14:18 |
| zhipeng | hey tobias | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | Or, goodnight maybe? | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | ;-) | 14:19 |
| zhipeng | evening :) | 14:19 |
| zhipeng | just tucked my daughter to sleep | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | good job =) | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | Its right now you, me and pilgrimstack (time to time) | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | I'll start the meeting | 14:20 |
| zhipeng | gr8t | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:20 |
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| tobberydberg | Agenda at #https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | Please put your name there | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. Planning of PTG agenda | 14:23 |
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| tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-ptg-rocky | 14:23 |
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| tobberydberg | zhipeng created a etherpad for this ^^ | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | yep, if you have any ideas feel free to share it on the etherpad | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | Right now only you and me attending. Hope that we can get some more to participate in a few discussions there, and/or a dinner during one of the evenings | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | Exactly what I was about to say, good | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | I did add 2 topics | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | But, I also hope that we get some time to do some real work moving forward towards our goals | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | usually that's what we do at PTG, just doing work lol | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | cool | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | this will be my first you will be the one guiding me around =) | 14:26 |
| zhipeng | :P | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | So, what do you say, how does it work, do we need a more detailed plan then just the topics as they are? | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | Time and date for example? | 14:27 |
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| tobberydberg | I have a few more items that we might work with as well during that week, but not sure they need to be added as a topic | 14:28 |
| zhipeng | yes usually it is better to have a per-day planning | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | ok ok | 14:28 |
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| tobberydberg | So, we put the topics into a daily agenda for Monday and Tuesday, then Wed and Thur are dedicated for actual work as well? | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | Do you have a lot of other sigs and projects to participate in? | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | for me Wed and Thur might just jumping around Nova meetings | 14:30 |
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| tobberydberg | But ok, lets add more and change that to a day to day agenda | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | ok ok | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | so if there is no Nova meeting of interest, I could definitely work on publiccloud_wg stuff | 14:31 |
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| tobberydberg | awesome! I might tag along to some meetings just to get a feel for how it workds | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | Thing is Cyborg, which I serve as PTL, also put on Monday and Tuesday | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | therefore I need to balance .... | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | maybe just set one day schedule for Cyborg | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | or two half days | 14:32 |
| pilgrimstack | I wee "federated billing/federated identity/…" in the etherpad | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | ok ok. Lets have a discussion about that as soon as you know | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | that was my blockchain pitch ? | 14:33 |
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| pilgrimstack | it was on the goals for the passport program ? | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | it was like an experiment | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | One of the suggestions earlier, right? | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | let's see how it goes :P | 14:33 |
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| tobberydberg | Changing topic here | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 2. Plan for meeting the goals for Vancouver. When? Where and What? | 14:34 |
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| tobberydberg | This topic is just to get it out to all of you - how will we be able to meet the goals for Vancouver? | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | How much time do you all have to do real work? | 14:35 |
| zhipeng | or shall we adjust it to what extent | 14:35 |
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| tobberydberg | The list of goals? | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | yep | 14:36 |
| pilgrimstack | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/publiccloud-wg/tree/doc/source/passport_program.rst?h=refs/changes/52/511252/1 | 14:36 |
| pilgrimstack | Version 1 ? | 14:36 |
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| pilgrimstack | for vancouver? | 14:36 |
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| tobberydberg | We can zhipeng ... but imoprtant to know what time we have to play with as well | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | defnitely | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | pilgrimstack: That is a first spec draft basically, that has been on the agenda to update | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | I hope to be able to put in around 20% | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | I think what I would work on for publiccloud_wg in H1, is to see our feature list turned to a document | 14:39 |
| pilgrimstack | ok so where are listed the vancouver goals? | 14:39 |
| pilgrimstack | we have something ? | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | to set up scenarios for the SDK testing | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | and set up the testnet for Passport Ledger experiment | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | pilgrimstack: We have wage goals, but I will make sure that is added to the Wiki | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | so these are my priorities, we could mingle and then see what goals should we set for Vancouver | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | you can find them at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:40 |
| pilgrimstack | ok I remember. | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | ok. Ad I see it, passport program in general and missing features are our focus right now | 14:41 |
| pilgrimstack | So my POV is we should make the actual passport program more successful before developping something else | 14:41 |
| pilgrimstack | that means working on communication with the foundation | 14:42 |
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| pilgrimstack | what do you think ? | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | We are to few people I believe to do much more, would be awesome to get some more people involved and prioritise the meetings | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | Agree pilgrimstack | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | I have reached out to Flanders | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | Hope to get some answers there soon | 14:43 |
| pilgrimstack | We should ask Lauren for the little topic we have | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | •-- What has been done from a marketing perspective? | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | •-- google "try openstack" and passport should be shown | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | •-- https://www.openstack.org/software/start/ doesn't link back to passport | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | •-- what can we do to get more traffic and marketing PP more? | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | As you pointed out, it is not very good communicated. If someone find a link in the menu to the program, please let me know... | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | +1 | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for those! | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | Adding that to the notes to work more with that | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | we need feedback from the current clouds as well | 14:45 |
| pilgrimstack | we already had it in the previous meeting ;) | 14:46 |
| pilgrimstack | but yes, we should work on that | 14:46 |
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| tobberydberg | yea | 14:46 |
| pilgrimstack | Who will be our best contact in the foundation for that ? | 14:46 |
| pilgrimstack | Lauren ? | 14:47 |
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| tobberydberg | I asked Flanders for contacts for the different questions, but might be Lauren or Chris as well... | 14:47 |
| zhipeng | and Chris Hoge | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to reach out again to foundation with questions regarding passport progranm | 14:48 |
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| tobberydberg | Just to have it said ..... feel free to add items to the agenda before and during the meetings =) | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | Since time is what it is ... should we schedule another work session for the "missing features"? | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | yes | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | Another time of day to try to get other people involved as well? | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | Like 0800 UTC? | 14:51 |
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| tobberydberg | Next week wednesday? | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | tmr ? | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | ah | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | works for me | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | well | 14:52 |
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| tobberydberg | I can tmr as well | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | tmr also works :P | 14:52 |
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| tobberydberg | We can do both? | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | 0800 UTC tmr? | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | yep I can do that :) | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | cool! I can send out invite! | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | We can do some planning of the PTG agenda in our channel as well | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Question zhipeng: Do you have and IRC bouncer so that you catch messages offline? | 14:56 |
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| zhipeng | I do have one, but it seems I cannnot add the publiclcoud irc channel | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | maybe it is not registered ? | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | hmmm...I can so I guess it is | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | But ok. We call it the day now and continue tomorrow! | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for joining folks! | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 14:59:38 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-17-14.20.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-17-14.20.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-17-14.20.log.html | 14:59 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 15:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone! | 15:00 |
| fouadben | Hi | 15:00 |
| cbellucci | Hi! | 15:00 |
| haruki | hello | 15:01 |
| jgu_ | Hi | 15:01 |
| jgr | Hello | 15:01 |
| witek | #topin mailing list | 15:01 |
| witek | #topic mailing list | 15:01 |
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| witek | :) | 15:01 |
| witek | I realized that we have two independent mailing lists referenced at wiki | 15:02 |
| witek | I actually though that mails from launchpad are forwarded to openstack-dev, but that's not the case | 15:02 |
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| witek | wanted to ask what do you think about dropping the launchpad mailing list and using only openstack-dev | 15:03 |
| sgrasley1 | +1 | 15:03 |
| jgr | +1 (I only learned that this other list even exists just now...) | 15:04 |
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| jgu_ | +1 | 15:04 |
| fouadben | good idea | 15:04 |
| witek | jgr: yes, that's the main issue with having two lists | 15:04 |
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| witek | OK, if nobody complains, I will disable the launchpad list then | 15:05 |
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| witek | and update the wiki | 15:06 |
| witek | I think launchpad and wiki are the only places where it's referenced | 15:06 |
| joadavis | I assume you will also send out a final 'closing this list' email to the launchpad list. | 15:06 |
| witek | yes, good point | 15:06 |
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| witek | #topic DCO for monasca-docker | 15:07 |
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| witek | timothyb89: are you around? | 15:08 |
| witek | we have started discussing it last week | 15:08 |
| witek | I have suggested moving monasca-docker to openstack namespace | 15:09 |
| witek | but it doesn't seem feasible in the short term | 15:09 |
| witek | or eaven mid term | 15:09 |
| witek | timothyb89: has prepared the document describing the new contribution workflow for monasca-docker repo | 15:10 |
| witek | https://github.com/monasca/monasca-docker/pull/397 | 15:10 |
| witek | everyone commiting to the repository would have to sign his commits | 15:12 |
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| witek | if you're interested in contributing, please review the PR | 15:12 |
| witek | I think using DCO is a pragmatic approach to fulfil legal requirements | 15:14 |
| joadavis | Kind of a bummer, but I'm happy we are getting more docker functionality. Will the steps be added to the monasca wiki or somewhere else to point to this external repo? | 15:14 |
| witek | we don't have many references to monasca-docker at that time | 15:15 |
| witek | Monasca Contributor Guide could be a good place | 15:16 |
| witek | anyway, we have also discussed how we can improve the process of building and publishing the docker images for Monasca | 15:17 |
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| witek | and agreed we could move the Dockerfiles of Monasca components to upstream repos | 15:18 |
| witek | to better couple it with OpenStack CI | 15:18 |
| witek | we'll prepare a user story about it | 15:18 |
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| witek | #topic Rocky Community Goals | 15:20 |
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| witek | TC discusses which topics should be tackled as community wide goals for the next release | 15:21 |
| witek | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126266.html | 15:21 |
| witek | if we want to influence it in any way, that's probably the right moment | 15:21 |
| witek | * Remove mox is a good candidate | 15:22 |
| witek | only monasca-ui is affected as far as I know | 15:22 |
| witek | * Ensure pagination links | 15:23 |
| witek | the goal is more about auditing current implementations | 15:23 |
| witek | and checking if tempest test are implemented | 15:24 |
| witek | if I understand correctly | 15:24 |
| witek | should be fine in our case I guess | 15:25 |
| witek | the last two candidates seem to be more complex | 15:26 |
| witek | although I did not investigated the details | 15:26 |
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| witek | SUSE folks, how relevant are they from your perspective? | 15:28 |
| witek | * Enable mutable configuration | 15:28 |
| witek | * Cold upgrades capabilities | 15:28 |
| jgu | sounds more interesting too. did monasca already migrate to storyboard (#1) | 15:28 |
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| witek | yes, we did, but it won't be the goal for the next release | 15:29 |
| jgu | I understand | 15:29 |
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| jgr | There's very little in the way of information on both cold upgrades and mutable configuration - what are they about? | 15:31 |
| joadavis | Not sure what 'mutable configuration' implies. We have managed configurations through the installer, like crowbar or ansible, that allow refreshing changes | 15:31 |
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| jgr | One can guess from the title, but that's not a good basis for a judgement call... | 15:31 |
| jgu | is there link to "enable mutable configuration" and "cold upgrade capabilities" definition? | 15:31 |
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| jgu | here is for the upgrade: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533544/ | 15:32 |
| jgr | And https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-upgrade.html | 15:32 |
| witek | mutable configuration - https://review.openstack.org/534605 | 15:32 |
| jgr | Cold upgrades have implications... | 15:32 |
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| jgr | Serious implications: "Database schema updates are stable and ordered such that moving a database (with actual data in it) from release N-1 to N is possible without data loss." | 15:33 |
| jgr | We still do not use Alembic, do we? | 15:33 |
| witek | no | 15:33 |
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| witek | yes, cold upgrades would be probably be the most expensive | 15:35 |
| witek | but they write in the spec they would expect it only from 'main OpenStack bucket' services | 15:35 |
| witek | anyway, it wouldn't be a bad idea to start with some small steps towards it | 15:36 |
| jgr | Mutable configuration probably wouldn't be too bad. While I haven't read the proposal that would be fairly easy to pull off as long as oslo.config provides a hook for a signal handler to force a reload the next time the config object is accessed. | 15:36 |
| jgr | I agree. | 15:37 |
| jgr | We could at least lay the groundwork for Alembic based database setup. | 15:37 |
| jgr | That'll get us most of the way to fulfilling that goal anyway :-) | 15:37 |
| witek | :) | 15:37 |
| jgr | And it meshes nicely with the service domain thing, for that will require schema changes among other things. | 15:38 |
| joadavis | ah, so mutable configuration doesn't have to be all the configuration options. not as bad as I'd feared | 15:39 |
| jgu | for the mutable configuratons, I imagine not all properties will be mutable w/o service restart. It'd be a good to come up with a list of conf properties as the goal for the mutable conf story. | 15:39 |
| jgu | jodavis: crossed msgs | 15:40 |
| jgr | I for one would put the mutable config story off until later - solid database schema handling is more important in my book | 15:41 |
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| jgr | At least if it's an either-or choice :-) | 15:41 |
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| witek | jgr: I think it's a good point for the PTG | 15:42 |
| witek | btw, thanks for your entries in the etherpad | 15:42 |
| witek | also 1-2 devs from OP5 will participate | 15:43 |
| jgu | are you planning Wed-Thur for the Monasca PTG? | 15:44 |
| witek | yes | 15:44 |
| witek | don't have any confirmation from organizers though | 15:44 |
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| joadavis | Is there a schedule posted yet? Wondering what to do with Mon-Tues | 15:45 |
| joadavis | and if we are done Thurs, I'll probably try to leave Fri | 15:45 |
| witek | the wiki page is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Rocky/Etherpads | 15:46 |
| witek | started filling in | 15:46 |
| witek | created today | 15:46 |
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| witek | "NB: We are still working on the room / day / track assignment based on | 15:47 |
| witek | each team's requirements and hope to be able to publish a strawman | 15:47 |
| witek | proposal by the end of the week." | 15:47 |
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| witek | any other topics? | 15:48 |
| jgr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532486/ is officially driving me crazy - upon the last run monasca-tempest-java-mysql failed; in the recheck that worked but monasca-tempest-ython-mysql failed. No changes of course, just rechecks... | 15:48 |
| jgr | Just venting :-) | 15:48 |
| jgr | If I had to guess, my money would be on oomkiller randomly offing services or something along these lines | 15:49 |
| witek | for this fail I have reported the bug today | 15:50 |
| jgr | Oh, interesting - what is the underlying issue? | 15:50 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001482 | 15:50 |
| jgu | is it timing issue in checking results? a wild guess | 15:51 |
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| witek | the metric is persisted without dimensions | 15:51 |
| witek | but I didn't investigate | 15:51 |
| witek | jgr: I have rechecked your change again | 15:53 |
| jgr | witek: ah, thanks, was just about to do that myself :-) | 15:53 |
| jgu | a random question -- the postgresql jobs always fail. do we still need them in the newer releases? | 15:53 |
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| witek | you mean, disabling the tests? | 15:54 |
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| jgu | right | 15:54 |
| witek | yes, it's probably a good idea | 15:55 |
| witek | I'll ask dougs if they use posrgres | 15:55 |
| jgu | good idea. I am just bugged that the two postgresql jobs always fail :-) | 15:56 |
| witek | not maintained for some time now | 15:56 |
| witek | ok, I'll be wrapping up | 15:57 |
| witek | thank you everyone for joining | 15:57 |
| witek | bye bye | 15:57 |
| joadavis | bye | 15:57 |
| fouadben | bye | 15:57 |
| haruki | bye | 15:58 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 15:58:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-17-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-17-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-17-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| jgu | bye | 15:59 |
| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 16:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:00 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.4 | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | Hi! | 16:01 |
| eglute | hello everyone, please review the agenda and add/update as needed | 16:01 |
| georgk | hi | 16:01 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic 2018.02 guideline | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2018.02 guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:02 | |
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| eglute | I think we are looking good for the next guideline | 16:03 |
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| eglute | Just need to create the 2018.2.json, it is on my list | 16:03 |
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| eglute | as well as update the add-on programs | 16:04 |
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| eglute | thank you hogepodge for commenting on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 16:04 |
| eglute | if anyone has anything to add, please do so | 16:05 |
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| eglute | #topic NFV Vertical | 16:05 |
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| eglute | thank you georgk for updating #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519732/ | 16:06 |
| eglute | i have not had a chance to review updates yet | 16:06 |
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| georgk | eglute: I addressed your comments | 16:06 |
| eglute | thank you georgk | 16:06 |
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| eglute | if no other comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519732/ i think it can be merged, correct? | 16:06 |
| georgk | eglute: I don´t have more questions and open comments | 16:07 |
| eglute | :D | 16:07 |
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| eglute | #topic Scoring of networking-bgp project for NFV vertical | 16:07 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527390/ | 16:08 |
| eglute | this one looks good to me, but i am no bgpvpn expert | 16:08 |
| eglute | if others could review as well, that would ehlp | 16:08 |
| eglute | that would help | 16:08 |
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| eglute | any other comments on any of the NFV patches? | 16:09 |
| eglute | It looks like we can present the NFV vertical to the board during the February meeting | 16:09 |
| georgk | eglute: more content would be nice... sorry for that | 16:10 |
| eglute | georgk so it would be all in advisory status | 16:10 |
| georgk | there are more candidates I wanted to look at... | 16:10 |
| eglute | georgk you still have time to add | 16:10 |
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| georgk | well, time is always scarse ;-) | 16:11 |
| eglute | since it is end of february and they would be advisory anyways, if you want to continue adding, you should :) | 16:11 |
| georgk | scarce | 16:11 |
| * eglute wonders where does the time go | 16:11 | |
| georgk | eglute: ok, thanks for the info | 16:11 |
| eglute | markvoelker hogepodge do you think it would be enough for the vertical? | 16:12 |
| eglute | well, for the first draft anyways? | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | Well, it is pretty sparse...but we kind of need a forcing function to start gathering more feedback from the braoder community. | 16:12 |
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| hogepodge | For advisory? I honestly can’t say I know enough about the area to say either way. I’m kind of depending on the experts | 16:12 |
| eglute | yes, feedback from the community would be great | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | We still haven't added some of the stuff that NFV deployments probably expect from other projects (like, say, EPA stuff from Nova)...but perhaps it's enough to show folks where we're headed and help prioritize | 16:13 |
| eglute | georgk if you add more, that would be great. if not, they can be added later | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | I was kind of thinking maybe we might want to include a sort of roadmap or list of things we want to evaluate to help guide that discussion | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | Just a plaintext file with a couple of bullets or something I suppose...but the mechanics aren't terribly important. | 16:14 |
| georgk | markvoelker: there is a list of candidates in the scoring_nfv.txt document | 16:14 |
| georgk | markvoelker: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519732/7/working_materials/scoring_nfv.txt | 16:15 |
| eglute | markvoelker that sounds good | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | georgk: yeah, I'm thinking maybe one more level of detail. | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | But I think the text itself is useful. | 16:16 |
| georgk | markvoelker: ok, so we should extend this file | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | georgk: Right, the question is what level of detail is appropriate...e.g. what specific feedback do we want this to garner. | 16:17 |
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| markvoelker | (and, perhaps what gaps are there to address...e.g. do we have tests for things like huge page support) | 16:18 |
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| georgk | markvoelker: what about a light-weight scoring: how widely is soimething deployed + are tests available | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | Yeah, something like that might work...honestly, if we could just plunk in some tests I think that'd be a great start (makes it very easy for vendors to see whether they offer those things and provide feedback, which in turn helps us evaluate criteria). | 16:20 |
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| markvoelker | (not a final test list, obviously...just some candidates) | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Anywho, I think we're on the right track, just trying to think about next steps with a deadline almost on top of us. =) | 16:22 |
| georgk | is the board meeting before or after the PTG? | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | georgk: it's on Monday | 16:23 |
| eglute | It is during PTG | 16:23 |
| georgk | hogepodge: ok, so, a little too early | 16:23 |
| georgk | i was thinking about finallizing stuff during the PTG | 16:23 |
| eglute | georgk we can start adding new things during ptg | 16:24 |
| eglute | and get feedback on advisory capabilities | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | February 26 | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | Kind of difficult to dig up the date. | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/30Jan2018BoardMeeting | 16:24 |
| georgk | hogepodge: thanks | 16:25 |
| eglute | anything else on the NFV? | 16:25 |
| eglute | #topic Heat Orchestration add-on | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Heat Orchestration add-on (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:26 | |
| luzC_ | me waves - arriving late | 16:26 |
| * eglute waves to luzC_ | 16:26 | |
| eglute | luzC_ we just finished discussing NFV. let us know if you have anything to add | 16:27 |
| eglute | For heat add-on, we have this patch that is just missing a response from ricolin #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529836 | 16:28 |
| eglute | i talked to him on IRC and I think he will update the patch | 16:28 |
| eglute | if you have any additional comments, please comment on the patch | 16:28 |
| eglute | #topic Dublin PTG | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dublin PTG (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:29 | |
| eglute | please update #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG if you are planning on attending! | 16:30 |
| eglute | regarding the schedule- since the board meeting is on monday, it would be hard for me to attend monday interop things | 16:31 |
| eglute | so perhaps refstack sessions could be on monday? | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | Me too, I'll reach out to diablo_rojo and see if we can get scheduled to not conflict. | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | It would be better if all our work was on T-W instead of M-T | 16:31 |
| eglute | hogepodge that would be ideal | 16:32 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:32 |
| eglute | anything else on PTG? | 16:32 |
| eglute | #topic open floor | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:33 | |
| eglute | anything else for today? | 16:33 |
| georgk | the summit CfP is open | 16:33 |
| eglute | georgk thats right! i hope everyone submits sessions | 16:34 |
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| eglute | on interop :D | 16:34 |
| georgk | does it make sense to think about something around the NFV vertical?! | 16:34 |
| georgk | assuming we have more content :-) | 16:34 |
| eglute | georgk i think so! might be a good place/time to gather feedback too | 16:34 |
| eglute | anything else? | 16:36 |
| georgk | eglute: I think so too, not sure however if we could fill a whole presentation | 16:36 |
| georgk | I´ll try to make up my mind | 16:36 |
| eglute | georgk i think you could, | 16:37 |
| eglute | those sessions are not long | 16:37 |
| georgk | eglute: ok, thanks | 16:38 |
| eglute | anything else for today? | 16:38 |
| eglute | Texas has been frozen over for the last couple days. 70F on Monday 17F today. and ice. So i hope you all are staying warm | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | It's snowing like crazy here in NC at the moment. =p | 16:39 |
| eglute | markvoelker but you normally get snow there right? | 16:39 |
| eglute | Texas was closed yesterday | 16:39 |
| eglute | all schools cancelled, roads closed | 16:39 |
| eglute | much better today | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Not down in my part of the state (where I grew up in the mountains, yes, but Raleigh is only a few hundred feet above sea level and pretty mild) | 16:39 |
| eglute | ah ok, then hope you dont have to leave the house much | 16:40 |
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| eglute | sounds like we are done for today- have a good one everyone! | 16:40 |
| eglute | thank you! | 16:40 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 16:41:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-17-16.00.html | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-17-16.00.txt | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | One of the great benefits of being a fulltime teleworker: not having to drive when nobody else around me knows how to drive in snow. =) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-17-16.00.log.html | 16:41 |
| mguiney | have a good day! | 16:41 |
| georgk | bye | 16:41 |
| luzC_ | bye | 16:41 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 20:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
| betherly | o/ | 20:00 |
| cshen_ | Hello | 20:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Queens-3 milestone will be released next week | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens-3 milestone will be released next week (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| ying_zuo | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-3 | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | please try to review/work on the tickets targeted for this milestone | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | feature freeze will start right after | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | so no feature related patches will be merged after | 20:02 |
| cshen_ | thanks for the reminder. | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | the next milestone after Q3 is RC1 when can merge more bug fixes | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Stable Pike release 12.0.2 is available now | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Pike release 12.0.2 is available now (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| ying_zuo | #link https://github.com/openstack/horizon/tree/12.0.2 | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Open Discussion | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:04 | |
| betherly | The qos work will not get totally finished this cycle. Apologies I didn’t have more time to work on it this cycle :( | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | :( | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | thanks for the update | 20:04 |
| betherly | Who will be at PTG? Look forward to seeing people then | 20:05 |
| e0ne | I hope to be there. I didn't get my visa yet | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | probably for me | 20:06 |
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| ying_zuo | I probably won't make it :( | 20:07 |
| e0ne | :( | 20:08 |
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| ying_zuo | you guys will have fun. it's always good to meet people you have been working with in person :) | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | any other questions or things to discuss today? | 20:11 |
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| cshen_ | I have today none. | 20:12 |
| ying_zuo | alright. thanks for joining! | 20:12 |
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| ying_zuo | have a good day | 20:12 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 20:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 20:12:51 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-01-17-20.00.html | 20:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-01-17-20.00.txt | 20:12 |
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