Wednesday, 2018-01-31

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zhipenganyone here for publiccloud-wg meeting ?14:01
astellwaghi zhipeng14:01
astellwagyes :-)14:01
apriceyes14:02
apricebut following the email thread in case it is cancelled or delayed :)14:02
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zhipengit's definitely not cancelled then :)14:04
zhipeng#startmeeting publiccloud-wg14:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 31 14:04:45 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)"14:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg'14:04
zhipeng#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg14:05
zhipengas usual plz put your name on the etherpad14:05
zhipengTobias might be running late14:05
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zhipeng#topic Dublin PTG Planning14:06
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zhipeng#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-ptg-rocky14:07
zhipengso this is our planning etherpad, if you have something specific in mind that want to share with the group14:07
zhipengplz feel free to add it on the etherpad14:07
zhipengTobias and I will arrange the time slot later14:07
zhipengand also seems Scientific WG will invite CERN guys to talk about spot instance14:08
zhipengwhich is also a big feature in public cloud14:08
zhipengsounds great :)14:08
astellwagindeed14:08
zhipengastellwag will you be at Dublin PTG ?14:09
astellwagunfortunately not zhipeng14:09
zhipengwell then we will keep the irc channel open during the meeting14:09
zhipengfacilitate people to join remotely14:10
zhipengany other ideas regarding the PTG ?14:10
astellwagthat would be great, I can for sure spend some time on IRC14:10
astellwagThe agenda looks good to me so far14:11
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astellwagAre there details on the PP goals for Vancouver available?14:12
zhipengnot yet, I think that might be a good topic for PTG :)14:12
astellwag+114:13
apricefor the PTG, the Foundation is going to provide PP metrics to date so that it can help create those goals for Vancouver14:13
apricewe will have several folks at the PTG and make sure there are some in the public cloud wg meetings14:13
zhipengaprice that's great to hear14:14
zhipengi think that concludes the second topic :P14:14
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zhipeng#topic feature list continue work14:16
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zhipeng#link - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA/edit#gid=014:16
zhipengTobias is struggling with IRC at the moment14:16
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zhipengso for feature list, I think we have managed to comb through all the proposed features14:17
mrhillsmanSorry so late14:17
zhipengand vetted out 22 features that have clear definition and target14:17
zhipengmrhillsman no worries :)14:17
zhipengso last meeting we joked about printing a flyer that print out the top 5 features and with a big font title saying "Feature Wanted"14:18
zhipengwith public cloud wg session info at the bottom14:18
* mordred waves14:19
zhipengI also ran the idea with Lauren and mark today, the general feedback seems very possitive14:19
tobberydberg__o/14:19
zhipengso maybe we should consider do it ?14:19
zhipenghey mordred and tobias :)14:19
tobberydberg__Around but having issues with network and a few shady things going on here....14:20
astellwagIt's probably good to get some attention14:20
zhipengtobberydberg__ no problem :)14:20
zhipengastellwag :)14:20
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zhipengmordred would you be possible to join the SDK testing/certificate topic on publiccloud wg sesion in Dublin ?14:21
apriceI think that would be great content for Superuser if you would be interested in hosting that content there zhipeng14:21
zhipengaprice yes that's a great way for publicity14:22
apriceok we can connect offline on getting that together14:22
zhipengI think when Tobias is around we could discuss further14:22
aprice+114:22
mordredzhipeng: yes!14:24
mordredzhipeng: I definitely want to be a part of that ... I even have an SDK :)14:24
zhipenghahaha14:26
zhipengcounting on you man14:26
mordredhehe14:27
zhipengaprice do you think it would be possible for foundation team to print the flyer I mentioned earlier ?14:27
zhipeng4 or 5 would be enough14:27
jamesmcarthurzhipeng: sure, we could do that14:28
zhipenghey Jimmy that's great !14:28
zhipengwill send you the content :)14:28
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jamesmcarthurzhipeng: if you send along the final verbiage to allison or myself, we can put it together. To be clear, the idea is to have this for the PTG, correct?14:28
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zhipengyes just for the PTG14:30
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jamesmcarthurzhipeng: np. if you can get it over to me this week, I'll see if one of our designers can pretty it up a bit :)14:30
zhipenggreat :)14:30
zhipengi'm not entirely sure what "new work session" means by Tobias14:31
zhipengI will just switch to AoB then14:31
zhipeng#topic AoB14:31
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zhipengany other topic we want to discuss here ?14:32
astellwagI'm fine14:33
zhipengokey then I will leave this open in case Tobias is back14:34
zhipengwill end the meeting 30mins later as scheduled :)14:34
jamesmcarthurthanks everyone!14:34
zhipengmany thanks14:34
apricethank you!14:35
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tobberydberg__Another work session means "Another session where we focus on missing features list"14:43
tobberydberg__Like the ones we had two weeks ago14:43
tobberydberg__"semi back" ;-)14:44
tobberydberg__So question there is if we should schedule a new session before the PTG?14:45
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tobberydberg__Another thing that Jean Daniel brought to discussion ... the time for these meetings moving forward. This time is conflicting for him. Good time as we have? Move? Weekly meeting?14:47
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tobberydberg__Please read that on the mailing list and we can continue the discussions there as well.14:47
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tobberydberg__...and as stated under other topics... Have added a small commit to try to add a meetbot to publiccloud-wg channel ... not reviewed yet though. I might ping infra team during the week about that14:49
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zhipengtobberydberg no problem14:53
zhipenginfra team usually will handle the meetbot14:53
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witek#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackwitek: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:00
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zhipeng_#endmeeting15:01
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witek#startmeeting monasca15:01
openstackwitek: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:02
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witek#endmeeting15:02
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fouadbenI think that only zhipeng could endmeeting15:03
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zhipeng#endmeeting15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"15:03
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jan 31 15:03:54 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:03
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-31-14.04.html15:03
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-31-14.04.txt15:03
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-01-31-14.04.log.html15:04
witekzhipeng: thanks15:04
zhipengphewwwww15:04
zhipengsorry man15:04
witekno problem :)15:04
witek#startmeeting monasca15:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 31 15:04:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)"15:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'monasca'15:04
witekHello everyone15:04
fouadbenHi all,15:04
cbelluccihello15:04
harukihello15:05
jgrHello15:05
witek#topic stable/queens15:05
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witekI would like to cut stable branches soon15:05
witekplease let me know of reviews that should be merged before15:06
witekI definitely would like to get tempest-plugin cleanup merged15:06
jgrhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/533833/ would be a candidate, too.15:06
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/53045615:06
witekjgr: yes15:07
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witekhi jgu_, just have been talking about you :)15:08
jguwitek: morning15:08
jgrAbout https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533833/ to be precise :-)15:08
witekis probably ready to go, right?15:09
jguyes :-)15:09
jgr(I assumed you'd want that in stable/queens to and thus brought it up when witek asked about things we want in stable/queens)15:09
jgujgr: yes, stable/queens please :-)15:09
witekany other changes?15:10
jgrwitek: On a related note: could we theoretically backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533833/ to stable/pike as well?15:10
witekwe don't have cassandra in pike15:11
jgrWell, monasca-api supports it already (at least it's got a schema and everything in stable/pike)15:11
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jguright, I have another one that preferred to include in stable/queens. : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538096/15:12
jgrJust that authentication patch is missing - but if you prefer we can pull than in via rpm-packaging on our side.15:12
jgujgr: the cassandra schema in pike was from the previous try on cassandra way back15:12
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jgujgr: I have backported the api auth in the our github repo15:13
witekjgu: would it make sense to cherry-pick this change?15:13
jgrjgu: I know. But that isn't in the package, yet :-)15:13
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jguwitek: I don't see it makes sense to back port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533833 to stable/pike without https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53383315:15
jgui meant without https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/monasca-common+branch:stable/pike+topic:cassandra_backport_pike15:15
jguwhich we decided not to do15:15
witekOK, so we don't back-port15:15
jgrAh. That's the puzzle piece I was missing. Sorry for causing this confusion.15:16
jgujgr: no problem, jgr15:16
jgubut I do want to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538096/ in queens.15:16
jgr(I already had a patched java-monasca-comman when messing with this locally)15:16
jguthe detention in plugin for cassandra15:16
witekleft minor comments on it today15:17
jguyes. I debated back and forth whether to leave the two directory paths as default or not. at the end, I decided to let the user to choose whether they want to monitor both directory or not.15:18
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witekOK with me15:19
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witek#topic PTG planning15:19
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witekI have added one item15:20
witekto agenda15:20
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witekhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-ptg-rocky15:20
witekCreate Docker images from from OpenStack repos15:20
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/53893715:20
witekDobroslaw has pushed the first version of the spec for it15:21
witekit would be good to start collecting more information on items we want to discuss15:22
witekjgr: has already the spec for Service Domain15:22
witekthe spec is actually still not merged15:23
witekI can start collecting some requirements for new monasca-thresh15:24
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jgudo you want us to add the spec drafts to specs/queens/?15:25
witekspecs/rocky would be accurate15:25
jguI was wondering about that :-)15:26
witekand we probably don't need specs for everything15:26
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witekjgu: persister is your item, I reckon?15:27
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witekdo you consider Go implementation because of better performance?15:27
jguyes, as a plan B only if python perf can't be tuned to a satisfactory level.15:29
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witekif you have some more info on this, you could probably put it at the bottom of PTG etherpad15:30
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jgusure, I'll add when more data becomes available15:31
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witekfor monasca-transform I though if we could evaluate and discuss the replacement with monasca-aggregator15:31
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witekI think at this point, also etherpad would be good15:32
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witekdo we want to plan one session to work together on docs?15:33
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witekno response, everyone loves documentation :)15:34
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witekmetric retention - jgu, I guess you've got clear vision about it15:35
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jguI have some very rough ideas about the retention that I can throw into a spec.15:37
witekthat would be great15:37
witekI think it needs some good planing15:38
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witekrbrndt: I've seen you joined15:38
rbrndtyes, hello15:38
witekDobroslaw has added spec for building docker images15:38
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/53893715:39
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witekit's first version15:40
witekbut review from your team would be very welcome15:40
rbrndtok, i'll take a look and pass it along15:40
witekthanks15:41
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witekdo we have any other topics for today?15:41
yuanHi witek, our Monasca based monitoring system is going to production in Croatia at the end of this February. We made a lot of customizations and IPv6 bug fixing15:42
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witekhi yuan15:42
witekthat's great15:42
yuanThis is from German Telecom15:42
witeksounds like a perfect topic for Vancouver15:42
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yuanI am wondering who should I contact to port our changes into the Monasca?15:43
yuanBecause I am out of this for awhile, I also like to know more about the current project status15:44
yuanIs Roland still in?15:44
witeksorry, I've been looking for our Contribution Guide15:45
witekthe process is to submit a feature request in StoryBoard15:46
witekhttps://storyboard.openstack.org15:46
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witekyou can also bring the topics up in this meeting15:46
yuanThanks. Should I be included in some kind of monasca mailing list?15:47
witekright, I've seen your email on launchpad mailing list15:47
witekwe haven't used that for a while15:47
witekwe use the openstack-dev mailing list15:48
yuanI checked openstack-dev mailing list. It is too much. If I can be included in any monasca related group dev list, it will be greate15:48
witekhttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev15:48
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yuanCan I filter the list by topic like Monasca?15:48
witekyou can edit your subscription options15:49
witekto filter only [monasca] tag15:49
witekhttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/openstack-dev15:49
yuanOk, will see. Thanks. I don't want to block anybody for this meeting. Can I ask the Cassandra status in this project?15:50
yuanWe use both mysql and Cassandra15:50
witekhow big is your deployment?15:51
witekCassandra support has been added in this release15:51
witekJava implementation will be added in SUSE OpenStack15:52
witekJava persister, to be strict15:52
harukiwitek: Sorry to interrupt you, but please let me know.15:53
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harukiPlease share the following 2 info about PTG in Devlin.15:53
haruki1. Time schedule of Monasca in UTC (Bacause I'm Japanese guy and can't travel in Devlin for PTG)15:54
yuanWe have 2000 customers for now. We have 4 sites15:54
haruki2. How to join the meeting in "NOT" F2F?)15:54
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witekharuki: I'll add info to the etherpad15:55
harukiThank you, I check it.15:55
jguyuan: which release are you on?15:55
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cbellucciyuan: as witek suggested, are you interested in presenting this success story during the next OpenStack summit?15:57
yuanWhen would be the meeting?15:57
witekend of May15:57
witekdeadline for presentation submissions is Feb. 815:58
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yuanWell, it is too close, may be next one15:58
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yuanWe are still very busy for bug fixing and performance tuning for production15:59
witekyuan: thanks for reaching out15:59
witekplease contact us per mailing-list or IRC16:00
yuanThanks Monasca and community16:00
cbelluccisure, and if it is a European story, then the summit in November in Berlin sounds even better16:00
witekyou can also drop me an email16:00
yuanI will do it.16:00
witekhave to close now16:00
witekthank you everyone16:00
yuanBye16:00
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cbelluccibye16:01
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witek#endmeeting16:01
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"16:01
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jan 31 16:01:14 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:01
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-31-15.04.html16:01
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-31-15.04.txt16:01
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-01-31-15.04.log.html16:01
eglute_s#startmeeting interopwg16:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 31 16:01:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglute_s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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markvoelkero/16:01
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eglute_sHello Everyone! Happy Wednesday!16:01
eglute_s#chair markvoelker hogepodge16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute_s hogepodge markvoelker16:01
mguineyo/16:01
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eglute_s#topic Agenda16:03
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eglute_s#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.516:03
eglute_sPlease update agenda as needed!16:03
eglute_sAnyone else here for interopwg meeting?16:03
* eglute_s waves to markvoelker and mguiney 16:04
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georgkeglute_s: yes16:04
georgkhi16:04
markvoelkerWhile we're on the subject of people being here or not: FYI I'll be traveling in Asia next week so likely unable to join16:04
eglute_sHello georgk!16:04
eglute_smarkvoelker thank you for letting us know!16:04
eglute_shappy travels!16:05
eglute_s#topic 2018.02 guideline16:05
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mguineyo/16:05
eglute_sI still have not had a chance to create the new guideline from the next.json. hopefully this week is better16:05
markvoelkereglute_s: if it helps, I have a bit of time right after the meeting today and can do it then.16:06
eglute_s#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ is still an ongoing discussion, if anyone wants to join in16:06
eglute_swe will present 2018.02 to the board for approval16:06
eglute_sduring the PTG board meeting16:06
eglute_sbesides that, i dont have any other updates for the guideline.16:07
eglute_s#topic NFV Vertical16:07
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hogepodgeHi16:07
eglute_sthank you georgk for doing the scoring16:07
eglute_slast meeting we discussed having NFV vertical to present for the board at the end of February as well16:08
georgkjust some basic comments as discussed last time16:08
eglute_sdoes the end february sound reasonable for the NFV guideline?16:08
markvoelkereglute_s: I'm thinking no.  Just doesn't seem like there's enough meat there yet to be useful.16:09
eglute_smarkvoelker even as advisory?16:09
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markvoelkerRight now we basically have Powered + trunks and we're still discussing BGPVPN, right?16:11
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georgkmarkvoelker:  BGPVPN has been merged16:12
markvoelkerIf the advisory guideline just adds that...doesn't feel sufficient to me.  We still haven't addressed EPA support, etc.16:12
georgkmarkvoelker: and I am wondering is the heat add-on could be included16:12
eglute_sthis is what we have so far: #link https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/verticals/nfv.next.json16:13
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georgknot sure if you have seen this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/. comments are very welcome16:13
eglute_sgeorgk i think adding heat add on is a good idea16:13
eglute_sgeorgk not yet!16:14
markvoelkergoergk: yes, I've seen that one (and thanks for evaluating!  It's very useful.)16:14
markvoelkerBut for several categories there we've basically said "we think these are things you really need in an NFV platform but there's no testing for them."16:14
markvoelkerIf there's going to be a trademark/logo program associated with this, it feels to me like it won't be very useful to anyone until we can actually include some of those things...16:15
markvoelkerI'm happy to discuss though. =)16:15
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markvoelkerAt a minimum, I do think we want to update the board on some of the findings here (like lack of tests for SR-IOV, EPA, etc)16:16
eglute_smarkvoelker agreed on updates16:17
eglute_sok, so agreement is that so far, not enough for NVF?16:17
georgkmarkvoelker: ok.16:17
georgkit feels like a topic for the PTG...16:18
eglute_sgeorgk i think what you have in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/ is good. The lack of tests is def. an issue16:18
georgktest coverage, I mean16:18
eglute_sgeorgk yes, please add it to the topic list for PTG16:18
eglute_s#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG16:18
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georgkeglute_s: yes, sure16:19
eglute_sthank you georgk16:19
eglute_sanything else on the NFV vertical?16:19
markvoelkereglute_s: let's perhaps record an action for you and I to put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin?16:20
markvoelker(we'll send it out for other folks to chime in on once we have a rough draft, per the usual)16:20
eglute_s#action markvoelker and eglute_s will put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin16:20
eglute_sanything else?16:21
eglute_s#topic Heat Orchestration add-ons16:22
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eglute_s#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983616:22
eglute_sI had asked Rico a couple weeks to respond to markvoelker's comment, but he has not16:22
eglute_smarkvoelker do you think it is ok to merge as is?16:22
markvoelkerI think there was a response somewhere (email maybe) saying basically version discovery didn't really exist yet....I'll double check16:23
eglute_sah ok. i must have missed it16:24
markvoelker* tests for discovery that is16:24
eglute_sin that case, merge?16:24
markvoelkerLet me track down the version discovery thing after the meeting and I'll leave a comment16:24
markvoelkerProbably ok though16:24
markvoelkerCan always be added later16:24
eglute_sthank you markvoelker, will let you update it and/or merge :)16:25
eglute_s#topic Dublin PTG16:25
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eglute_shogepodge are the days or interop/refstack confirmed?16:26
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eglute_sthank you georgk for adding topics. Everyone else also please add: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG16:28
eglute_si really like the newest topic.16:28
eglute_sthough not sure we can get entire TC in the room16:29
eglute_shogepodge any news on the dates for interop?16:29
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hogepodgeThursday Friday16:30
eglute_shogepodge thank you for confirming! Interop on Thursday?16:30
hogepodgeHad to find the google sheet for scheduling.16:31
eglute_shogepodge thank you :)16:32
hogepodgeWe can be flexible on the scheduling. Whatever works best. I think some of the refstack team was wondering why we couldn't get Wednesday to help link their work together.16:32
hogepodgeSo Thursday might be popular for everyone. ;-)16:32
eglute_shogepodge understood. Friday might be easier to get other people to attend I suppose, if everyone will be done with things16:33
mugsiethere is also a TC half day on Friday, which could be used for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ :)16:33
eglute_smugsie i like the idea of discussing it with TC :)16:33
eglute_smugsie any chance you could help us schedule some time with TC16:34
mugsieI can bring it up in the office hours tomorrow16:34
eglute_smugsie that would be great, thank you16:34
* mugsie wants resolution on this soon16:34
eglute_sthank you mugsie for taking the lead on this16:35
mugsienp16:35
eglute_sanything else for today?16:35
georgkhogepodge: can you post a link to the google sheet here?16:35
eglute_shogepodge and in the ehterpad?16:36
hogepodgeI don't know if it's publicly available.16:36
georgkmaybe that´s why I didn´t find it16:36
georgk:-)16:36
hogepodgeLooks like it is, non-editable. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307&single=true16:37
georgkhogepodge: thank you16:37
eglute_sthakn you hogepodge16:37
eglute_sanything else for today?16:38
eglute_sthanks everyone, have a good the rest of the day!!16:39
eglute_s#endmeeting16:39
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"16:39
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jan 31 16:39:06 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:39
hogepodgeThat's not official, the web site will update once it's finalized.16:39
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-31-16.01.html16:39
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-31-16.01.txt16:39
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-01-31-16.01.log.html16:39
mguineyhave a good day, all!16:39
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ying_zuo#startmeeting horizon20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 31 20:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:00
ying_zuoHi everyone!20:00
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lajosHi20:00
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ying_zuo#topic RC-1 milestone20:01
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ying_zuoQueens-3 was released last week20:01
ying_zuo#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-320:01
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amotokihi20:01
ying_zuoThanks everyone's great work on it!20:01
ying_zuowe are in RC-1 right now20:02
ying_zuo#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-rc120:02
ying_zuoso only patches for translation and bug fixes will be merged20:02
ying_zuo#topic Rocky PTG20:02
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e0nehi20:03
ying_zuo#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml20:03
ying_zuo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-rocky20:03
ying_zuoplease add the topics that you want to discuss on the etherpad20:04
ying_zuothere are already some good ones there20:04
e0neying_zuo: could you please add etherpad link to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Rocky/Etherpads?20:04
ying_zuowill do20:04
e0nethanks20:04
ying_zuoyou can also find this link in #openstack-horizon IRC channel20:04
amotokiadded20:05
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ying_zuo#topic Open Discussion20:05
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amotokihey.... the meeting agenda is not checked? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon20:05
amotokii added several items....20:05
amotokior is it no longer used?20:06
ying_zuo#topic FFE discussion20:06
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lajoskatonaThanks :-)20:06
ying_zuoit's used, I didn't a notification so didn't know there are updates20:06
ying_zuo#info Trunk admin panel20:06
ying_zuo#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126694.html20:07
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516657/20:07
e0neI +2'ed on the patch20:07
lajoskatonaThanks for everybody.20:07
e0neying_zuo: we need your +2/-2 on this20:07
ying_zuoafaik, we can't merge feature related patches after Q320:08
ying_zuoI don't know when we can make an exception for this20:09
e0neying_zuo: it's up to you as PTL to allow feature freeze exception for this patch20:09
dklyleying_zuo, you can allow feature exceptions in the RC period20:09
amotokiying_zuo: so you don't have any FFE process?20:09
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amotokianyway, it's up to the PTL20:10
e0neamotoki: +120:10
ying_zuois this the last patch for the blueprint?20:10
lajoskatonayeah it seems.20:11
amotokiyes, the ML post describes it20:11
amotoki#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/neutron-trunk-ui+(status:open+OR+status:merged)20:11
lajoskatonaThere was another request from Akihiro, but we opened a bug for that (to have links for ports: #174608220:12
amotokias my neutron core hat, I can say the feature is completed by this patch.20:12
ying_zuookay. I am fine with it20:13
lajoskatona\o/20:13
lajoskatonaThanks20:13
ying_zuosure. thanks for completing the blueprint :)20:13
ying_zuo#topic Request to review targeted to RC120:14
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ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/53953420:14
amotokiI just listed pending reviews as FYI.20:14
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/53847220:14
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539528/20:15
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53953020:15
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527670/20:15
ying_zuothanks amotoki20:15
amotokiif there are any other reviews to be raised, feel free to raise it. all above are from me.20:16
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ying_zuo#topic Open Discussion20:16
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amotokihow do we move forward the ngdetail refresh?20:17
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amotokido we land minimum in queens, or defer all to Rocky?20:17
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e0nejust a reminder that Pike will be in Phase II in February, so we need to backport bugs to it befoere that deadline20:18
e0ne#link https://releases.openstack.org/20:18
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ying_zuoif we have to take it as it is, then we can create a lower priority ticket20:18
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ying_zuoe0ne: thanks for the reminder20:19
e0neying_zuo: np20:19
amotoki#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:stable/pike20:19
amotoki#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:stable/ocata20:19
lajoskatonaAs I see there will be some discussion in Dublin as well for that topic20:19
lajoskatonaI mean the ngDetails20:19
e0neamotoki: do you have a link for ngDetail branch by the hand?20:19
ying_zuo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:stable/pike20:19
ying_zuosome of them need another +220:19
ying_zuooh amotoki is faster than me :)20:20
amotokire: stable branches, I heard robcresswell that backports from stable cores needs a single +2 when I was added to the stable team.20:21
lajoskatonaThe tipic for ngDetails: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1681627+(status:open+OR+status:merged)20:21
amotokiI am not sure this policy is applied now.20:21
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ying_zuoyes, that's right20:22
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ying_zuojust merged two from amotoki :)20:23
amotokie0ne: are you familiar with the stable policy?20:23
e0neamotoki: what actually do you mean?20:24
amotokie0ne: i think you are a candidate for the stable team.20:24
e0neI read the docs and maintain stable branches in cinder too20:24
e0neamotoki: :)20:24
amotokiwe have only three cores in the stable team now.20:24
amotoki*three active cores*20:24
e0neI'm trying to follow upstream stable policy in our downstream too20:24
amotokie0ne: nice20:25
ying_zuo#link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html20:25
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amotokithere is no decision needed here. anyway it would be nice if we have healthy review team for stable branches :)20:27
amotokilajoskatona: thanks for ngdetail link20:28
e0neamotoki: +120:28
ying_zuo+120:29
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amotokican we back to ngdetail refresh?20:30
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amotokiwhat do you think about the first one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520340/ ?20:31
ying_zuoyes like I mentioned, will need to create a bug report for the issues if we have to merge it as it is20:31
amotoki+1 to ying_zuo's suggestion20:32
e0newhy can't we use an existing bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/zun-ui/+bug/1681627?20:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1681627 in Zun UI "Page not found error on refreshing bowser " [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Shu Muto (shu-mutou)20:32
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ying_zuothat's fine too20:34
amotokie0ne: I think it is because fixing a bug across releases is sometimes not easy to track.20:34
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e0neI want to test these patches before I put my vote in gerrit20:35
amotokiso in my understanding ying_zuo's suggestion is to close bug 1681627 with the first one and to open another bug for further fix (like navigation issue)20:35
openstackbug 1681627 in Zun UI "Page not found error on refreshing bowser " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681627 - Assigned to Shu Muto (shu-mutou)20:35
e0newill try to do it this week20:35
amotokie0ne: of course20:35
ying_zuoamotoki: yes, that may be better20:36
e0nesuch bugs are very annoying for users (and me) :(20:36
amotokiafter merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524948/, the thing becomes worse20:37
e0ne:(20:37
amotokiwhen we back to a ngdetail page by browser back button, we will get not found.20:37
e0ne:(20:38
e0neI tested that patch but didn't face the issue with ngdetail20:38
e0newill test again tomorrow or on Friday20:39
amotokifor example, go to a image detai, go to the instance table and then click a back button20:39
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ying_zuothose are separate issues20:40
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amotokiseparate issues but I think an error is triggered by a direct url to ngdetail page20:42
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e0neit sounds reasonable20:42
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ying_zuoyes20:42
amotokiso I think the root cause is same20:43
ying_zuoagree20:44
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ying_zuoare there any other topics from anyone?20:45
ying_zuoalright. thanks everyone for joining!20:47
ying_zuo#endmeeting20:47
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e0nesee you next week20:47
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