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tobberydberg#startmeeting publiccloud_wg14:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 14 14:02:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)"14:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg'14:02
tobberydbergHi and welcome everyone!14:03
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pilgrimstacko/14:03
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pilgrimstackpartially here ;) (double meetings)14:04
tobberydbergI know =)14:04
tobberydbergMaybe not next time ;-)14:04
tobberydbergAgenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg14:04
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tobberydbergPlease put your name there as well!14:04
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tobberydbergzhipeng: are you around?14:05
tobberydberg#topic 1. Recap PTG14:05
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tobberydbergSo, my first PTG and the first PTG where we as a group had an official agenda14:06
tobberydbergVery happy to see that we had a lot of interest from the community with the things that we do14:06
tobberydbergFilled up the room basically both days14:07
tobberydbergThanks for the support there everyone!14:07
zhipengtobberydberg i'm tangled in cyborg meeting14:07
zhipengbut will lurk around :)14:07
tobberydbergNice to meet a lot of new people, some of them colleagues of yours pilgrimstack =)14:07
zhipengbtw should we send out a recap to the mailinglist ?14:07
tobberydbergOk zhipeng14:08
tobberydbergzhipeng: Don't forget to vote - https://doodle.com/poll/2kv4h79xypmathac14:08
tobberydbergpretty please right away =)14:08
tobberydbergSure zhipeng ... an action that I can put on you?14:09
mrhillsmanwrong room :)14:09
zhipenghaha i'm ok with the current schedule14:09
pilgrimstackIf you could send the report to the ML it would be interesting for me14:09
zhipengok i think I could try to do that14:09
tobberydbergAbsolutely! Thanks zhipeng14:10
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tobberydberg#action zhipeng to send out PTG recap - tobberydberg to help out14:10
tobberydbergWith above said, think and hope that we will get more people joining our meetings14:10
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tobberydbergone feedback was that our channel was a little bit dead - so hope to move these meetings there as well when we decide up on a new time14:11
apriceI also think that as we are collecting the passport feedback, we can encourage more people to join the bi-weekly meetings.14:11
tobberydbergto get the discussion going there, and hope that will help in getting more discussions in there as well14:12
tobberydbergsounds perfect aprice14:12
tobberydbergso, leaving that at that ... mail will be written...14:13
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tobberydberg#topic 2. Poll/voting new meeting slot14:13
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tobberydberg#link https://doodle.com/poll/2kv4h79xypmathac14:14
tobberydbergPoll was setup ... some of you have voted14:14
tobberydberg1400 UTC Thursday odd weeks - thats the one that everyone was ok with14:15
tobberydbergHad hoped to get som votes in there from people in APAC and pacific time zone as well to see if it would be possible to get them to join more often14:16
tobberydbergBut, think we put this to a vote here14:17
tobberydberg#startvote agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Yes, No14:17
openstackBegin voting on: agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Valid vote options are Yes, No.14:17
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.14:17
tobberydbergYes14:18
tobberydberg#vote Yes14:18
mrhillsman#vote Yes14:18
aprice#vote Yes14:18
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jamesmcarthur_#vote Yes14:18
zhipeng#vote yes14:19
tobberydbergpilgrimstack pasuder  ... if you would like to vote - now it is time =)14:19
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pasuderHello, sorry for being late..14:19
pasuderNeed to know the question :D14:19
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pasuderChecking logs from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-03-14-14.02.log.txt14:20
tobberydbergagree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Yes, No14:20
pasuder#vote yes14:21
tobberydbergThanks14:21
tobberydberg#endvote14:21
openstackVoted on "agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ?" Results are14:21
openstackYes (6): jamesmcarthur_, mrhillsman, pasuder, aprice, zhipeng, tobberydberg14:21
pasuderuff, read logs from that meeting and I am in14:22
tobberydberg#action tobberydberg to change meeting time and channel to #openstack-publiccloud in wiki etc14:22
tobberydbergSince we have aprice and jamesmcarthur_ here ... I'm assuming the PP is on your agenda? ?=14:23
apriceyeah, and I would like to provide an update on another piece as well14:24
apricefor the passport program, we have begun outreach to all of the participating organizations to collect feedback.14:24
apriceWe have heard from a handful, but will share all of the feedback once it is collected - thank you to everyone who has contributed.14:25
tobberydberg+114:25
* pasuder clapping14:25
tobberydbergI will do my part soon ... if not marketing has provided it already =)14:25
apriceAnother update is that it has been decided to wind down TryStack14:25
apricewe are going to have that page redirected to the OpenStack Start page (https://www.openstack.org/software/start/)14:26
apricewhere the Passport Program is the first thing listed14:26
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mrhillsmani was wondering about trystack14:26
apriceWe collected feedback from tobbyrydberg and made some updates to that landing page as well as the Marketplace, so this will be another step in the process to direct more qualified traffic to the program.14:27
mrhillsmanglad passport is an option as i was going to suggest openlab :)14:27
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apricemrhillsman - we should look at getting openlab on the start page :)14:27
tobberydbergAwesome14:27
tobberydbergfor the PP at least =)14:28
tobberydbergyes, getting openlab there is another good thing +114:28
jamesmcarthur_yes - agreed. we can add OpenLab to the start page.14:28
apricemrhillsman: jimmy and I can sync with you on getting something added to that page. it's one of our most highly visited pages14:29
mrhillsmanok cool14:29
mrhillsmanafter openlab site is redone :)14:29
tobberydbergWill be really interesting to see what this does with the traffic to the different clouds14:29
mrhillsman++14:29
apricebut yeah - that's all I have around the passport program. I will keep everyone updated as we get more feedback. I was planning to share the feedback with the PCWG and the UC14:29
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tobberydbergthanks aprice - looking forward to that feedback14:30
apriceno problem14:30
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tobberydberganything else or any questions regarding that?14:31
jamesmcarthur_aprice: and I have to drop off for another meeting.14:32
jamesmcarthur_can y'all ping us if there is something that needs our attention?14:32
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tobberydbergfor sure! Thanks for joining jamesmcarthur_14:32
tobberydbergthen ... moving on...14:33
tobberydberg#topic 4. High level planning Vancouver14:33
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tobberydbergMight be that we bring this to the agenda next meeting as well since we hope to have better attendance then =)14:34
mrhillsmana ML thread could be beneficial as well14:34
tobberydbergBut, I have a list things that I would like us to focus on, but would like to have suggestions out of the blue from everyone before I write those down14:35
tobberydberg+1 mrhillsman - for sure14:35
tobberydbergI will do that as well14:36
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tobberydberg#action tobberydberg to write email to ML about feedback/suggestions of focus areas for Vancouver14:36
tobberydbergFeel free to write down any suggestions to the etherpad14:37
pilgrimstackdo any of you had or has to work on important upgrade like Juno to something more up-to-date?14:38
pilgrimstackI'm exchanging with Thierry about it14:38
pilgrimstackthere probably someone from Yahoo who will present a talk about a similar upgrade14:39
tobberydbergWell, we are performing 15 upgrades during the spring here =)14:39
tobberydbergnot multi-hop though, and not frpm Juno =)14:39
pilgrimstackwe though about a workshop in Vancouver about this topic14:40
tobberydbergforum session??14:40
pilgrimstacknot necessary only for public cloud provider14:40
tobberydbergno - operators in general14:40
tobberydberg++14:40
tobberydbergReally good topic for a forum session I believe14:41
pilgrimstackok, yes probably a forum session14:41
pilgrimstackwho are interested? tobberydberg and ?14:41
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tobberydbergI can assure you that a lot of people will be interested in that!!14:42
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pilgrimstackok great14:43
tobberydbergAdd it to the list I started at the etherpad14:44
tobberydbergAnd, add more ... brainstorming ... we can setup a separate etherpad for just that until next meeting14:44
pasuder:)14:45
pasudertobberydberg: will we do some sum up of those common issues which are being reported on launchpad?14:45
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tobberydbergBesides the current things with PP and missing features, I believe that we should try to do more regarding SDKs certification and zhipeng 's blockchain proposal14:47
zhipengthx tobberydberg14:47
pasuderOK14:47
tobberydbergpasuder: Yes, we will create sessions focused o that14:47
pasuderOK, thx tobberydberg14:47
tobberydbergSo, continue to put you suggestions there and I'll reaching out to the ML about this14:49
tobberydberg#topic 5. Other topics14:49
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tobberydberg10 minutes to other topics14:50
tobberydbergSomething that is on your minds? :-)14:50
pasuderGreat PTG :) I noticed that you mentioned that already, but I would like to thank you all who was there :D14:50
tobberydberg++ pasuder14:51
pasuderGreat to meet you all14:51
tobberydbergTotally agree! Really nice to spend some time with you all!14:51
tobberydbergBecame a few extra days as well =)14:51
pilgrimstackshould we expect a snow storm or something like that in Vancouver too? :p14:52
tobberydbergReally hope I can squeeze in the next PTG in my schedule as well14:52
tobberydberghahaha14:52
pasuder:) regarding this Excel and those things which were in the Excel from Sydney, I created some "bugs" on page https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-publiccloud-wg which I confirmed with Łabędź from OVH14:52
tobberydbergWhatever reson for us to stay a couple of extra days is fine pilgrimstack )14:52
tobberydbergthans pasuder14:53
pasuderBut at this moment, as pilgrimstack said, we are completely focused on upgrade from Juno to Newton14:53
tobberydbergI will spend some time on that as well!14:53
pasuderSo, we have a little freeze in that area.14:53
pasuderOK, thx tobberydberg14:53
tobberydbergtotally get that ... in the same situation here basically14:53
tobberydberghope to free up some time getting closer to May...14:54
pasuderYeah? what kind upgrade to you have?14:54
pasuderfrom which version to which?14:54
tobberydbergMitaka->Newton->Ocata->Pike14:54
tobberydbergNot in all regions - some are on Pike, some on Ocata14:55
pasuderHmm, nice14:55
tobberydbergI think we have something like 7 upgrades to go before may =)14:55
pilgrimstackand you run each step?14:55
tobberydbergyes, we do14:55
pasuderwoops, not multi-hop14:55
tobberydbergNot during same service window14:55
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tobberydbergnope, multi-hop would have been nice though =)14:56
pilgrimstackyour oldest version is Mitaka?14:56
pasuderYeap :)14:56
pasuderIn our case is control plane replac14:56
pasuderreplacement is required during upgrade14:56
tobberydbergNot anymore, now days oldest is Newton14:56
pasuderGood for you!14:57
tobberydberghaha14:57
pasuderWe would like to have upgrade from Newton to Ocata/Pike later this year14:57
tobberydbergwell ... it hasn't been that good I can assure you =)14:57
pasuder;) we will see very soon, I hope this year14:57
tobberydbergmmm14:57
pasuderSo we will be in touch ;)14:57
tobberydbergit's alot of moving pieces =)14:58
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tobberydberg+114:58
tobberydbergSo, getting close to the end of the meeting here14:58
pasuderWe were wondering if this topic (upgrades) are good topics to put on list within public cloud wg14:58
pasuderWhat do you think tobberydberg (last question)?14:58
tobberydbergAbsolutely14:58
pasuderok,14:58
pasuderI will talk with Łabędź14:59
pasuderthx14:59
tobberydbergThink pilgrimstack added that as a suggestion to the list of forum sessions14:59
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tobberydbergNice talking to you folks as always14:59
pasuderYeap, thx!14:59
tobberydbergLets try to keep on discussion in the publiccloud channel to get that moving in the right direction as well! =)14:59
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tobberydbergSee you soon and thanks for today!15:00
pasuderok, I will let you know there15:00
pasuderBye!15:00
tobberydberg#endmeeting15:00
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witekCourtesy Monasca meeting reminder in #openstack-meeting-3: rhochmuth, witek, jayahn,iurygregory,ezpz,igorn,haad,sc,joadavis, akiraY,tobiajo,Neptu,dougsz,fouadben, amofakhar15:00
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witek#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 14 15:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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jgrHello15:01
scwitek: yo15:01
witekhi15:01
dougszhey there15:01
amofakharHello15:01
witeknice to see you all15:01
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witekwe've got some topics in the agenda15:01
witeklet's start15:01
witek#topic Rocky priorities15:01
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scsurprise surprise! I have an hour for the meeting!15:01
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/55289615:01
witek:)15:01
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witekI have sorted the topics according to accumulated points15:02
amofakharI did it already15:02
amofakharlooks good15:02
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witekthe rendered output is here http://logs.openstack.org/96/552896/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/180a924/html/priorities/rocky-priorities.html15:02
witekI have left left-over community goals as well15:03
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witekalso merged logs related topics to one `Query logs pipeline`15:03
witekagain, it's not ultimate list, it's just a summary of topics which most of us find important15:04
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witekas orientation15:04
witekas next step, it would be nice to have owners for each topic, at least from the first group15:05
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witekvolunteers very welcome :)15:05
jgrYou can put my name next to the Alembic topic15:05
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witekthanks, will do15:06
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amofakharI like to help in Alembic too15:06
witekgreat15:06
scfor the time I can dedicate to monasca "Support Python 3.5" it's enough for me, I cannot get more15:06
witekit's fine too15:06
jgu_you can put my name to the retention policy, and Scott Grasley and my name to the persister python performance/java deprecation15:07
witeknice, thank you15:07
witekfor the retention policy, we could split it for Influx and Cassandra15:08
jgu_yes once we get down to the db plugin level15:08
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aagateyou can put me and jodavis next to monasca transform refresh15:09
witekI'll add the names to the list15:09
witekfor the rest we can fill in later15:09
witekI have also started adding tasks which we already have to the Board15:10
witekhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/6015:10
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scwe can update as work is done and we have time, can't we?15:10
witeksc: you mean update prio owners?15:10
scwitek: yes15:11
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witekyes, so if someone has time and would like to lead one of the topics, we can put him/her in the list15:11
witekanytime15:11
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witekfor the Board, I still haven't checked if we can automatize it15:12
witek#action witek checks StoryBoard automation15:12
jgrAutomation is good :-)15:13
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witekI guess, I'm done for the fist point15:14
witek#topic DB migration spec15:14
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witekhttps://review.openstack.org/55203015:14
witekwe already have first review from nseyvet_ and amofakhar15:15
witekthanks for the spec jgr15:15
jgrNo worries :-)15:15
witekI'll review as well in the next days15:16
* sc going to review COB15:16
witekany comments on this?15:17
witek#topic service domain for agent users15:18
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witekjgr: you seem to have an update from Keystone front15:18
jgrwitek: Indeed15:18
jgrSo the Keystone folks appear to be pretty happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396331/ so far15:19
jgrEven Adam Young likes it (he had some reservations about it initially)15:19
witeksounds good, should we keep our prio topics though?15:20
jgrIt is looking good enough that I'm toying with the idea of giving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507110/ an early overhaul to switch it to application credentials15:20
jgrThere is a risk with that: I don't know whether the Keystone side of this will be ready in time.15:21
jgrBut on the bright side we wouldn't need to build this elaborate hack with the service user domain only to tear it down again in the next release.15:21
jgrThoughts?15:21
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witekwhy not wait few weeks and see which progress Keystone implementation makes15:23
jgu_yeah, I would lean towards to go for the final goal :-)15:23
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jgrOk, good to hear that. That's pretty much my plan :-)15:25
jgr(I don't want to rush into a domain based implementation early on)15:25
jgrMeanwhile I'll have enough on my plate with the Alembic stuff anyway...15:26
witekOK, please keep us updated on the whitelist progress15:26
witek#topic spec for oslo.policy15:27
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jgrWill do15:27
amofakharcomments are addressed and ready for review15:27
witekthanks amofakhar15:28
witekthat's the second or third round of reviews15:28
amofakharyes it is15:28
amofakharthird i think15:28
amofakharnothing more i just wanted to ask you to review it15:29
witekadding for my list for this week15:29
witekthanks15:29
amofakharthanks15:30
witekchange with implementation is also there15:30
scwitek: amofakhar: could you share the URL for the review?15:30
amofakharhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/511245/15:30
witekspec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511245/15:30
scthanks15:31
witek:)15:31
witekchange with implementation is also there15:31
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/546956/15:31
amofakharyes and it is waiting for review since before the PTG15:31
amofakharof course it is a big patch15:32
amofakhari am waiting for it to be reviewed and then start to work on monasca-log-api15:32
witekreviews very welcome15:33
* sc added himself15:33
amofakharthanks15:34
witekthanks amofakhar for driving this15:34
amofakharur welcome15:34
witek#topic unit tests in monasca-ui15:34
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amofakharI have seen in monasca-ui unit tests are not in /tests directory15:35
amofakhardo you have any idea why it is not obey the role ?15:35
witekno :(15:35
amofakhardo you think it is ok?15:35
amofakharis it ok to do a clean up and move all tests into /tests ?15:36
amofakharbecause i have seen most of them has no unit test15:36
scamofakhar: for yes, the cleaner the better15:36
amofakharand it is better and recommended to have all tests in a place15:37
amofakhargood, then i will do that in spare times15:37
witekplease compare with other horizon plugins15:37
amofakharsure15:37
witekI've just looked at magnum-ui15:38
witekthey have similar structure15:38
witekhttps://github.com/openstack/magnum-ui/blob/master/magnum_ui/content/clusters/tests.py15:38
amofakharI will check more plugins and search if there is any role about it or it's just a bad structure which is copied15:40
witekgood idea15:40
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witekthanks amofakhar15:42
witeksome more comments on this?15:42
amofakharthank u too15:42
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witekdo we have other topics to discuss?15:43
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witekif not, thank you all15:43
witekand see you next week15:43
witeksame place, same time :)15:43
amofakhargood bye15:43
witekbye bye15:44
dougszthanks15:44
scbye15:44
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jgrBye15:44
witek#endmeeting15:44
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dansmith#startmeeting nova_cells17:01
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melwitto717:01
tssuryao/17:01
dansmithsorry, I clicked the wrong channel and was all "where the fsck are those people?"17:01
tssurya:D17:01
melwittheh17:01
dansmith#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv217:02
belmoreirao/17:02
dansmith#topic bugs17:02
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dansmithSo, first bug on the list is something I want to talk about selfishly17:02
* bauzas sits at the back of the room17:02
dansmithinternally, ironic people have been saying for a while that host discovery with ironic nodes was buggy and problematic,17:03
dansmithand I wasn't buying it17:03
mriedemo/17:03
dansmithwe added the scheduler periodic for them so things were a little more automatic, which helped a little, but there's a big problem they finally illuminated17:03
dansmith#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/175560217:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1755602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ironic computes may not be discovered when node count is less than compute count" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms)17:03
dansmithI tried to put a lot of detail in the bug there, so hopefully it's clear what is going on,17:04
dansmithbut basically if you have more nova-computes than ironic nodes,17:04
dansmithwe'll discover one host and map the compute node, and then never discover other hosts until they get an unmapped node assigned to them by the hash ring17:04
dansmiththey've been working around it by deleting nodes and re-discovering, or just having enough nodes to not notice,17:04
dansmithbut it's a real problem for bootstrapping a deployment17:05
dansmithso I have a potential patch up, which lets us discover by compute service instead of just node,17:05
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dansmithwhich also solves their problem of not being able to get discovery done until they have ironic nodes enrolled, which was an early complaint about this process in newton or ocata from them if you recall17:05
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dansmith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552691/17:06
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dansmithso that is backportable and minimally invasive, but I think like compute node, we probably need to grow a mapped field so we can do that efficiently17:06
dansmiththe ironic people like this because they can provision their nova services, get them mapped, and then move on to ironic and not have to come back to re-do discovery17:06
dansmithTBH, I'm not sure why we didn't just do this when they initially complained and we added the periodic,17:07
dansmithso I'm putting it out here in case anyone can see why we *shouldn't* do this17:07
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mriedemhave the internal guys picked this up and tested it yet?17:07
dansmiththey haven't because I told them to wait, and because they have to change when this is run and with the new flag17:08
dansmithso I wanted to float it at least before they go do that17:08
dansmith(and this came up only last night)17:08
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dansmiththey currently run it really late and in a weird spot because they have to in order for it to work at all,17:08
dansmithso this is moving from like total post-deploy steps way up into the nova phase of setup17:08
dansmithwhich in tripleo moves it from like heat to puppet or something17:09
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mriedemsure, i'd just like to know that someone on the deployment side of the house that needs this can pick it up, hack it in to a test env and say 'yup does the trick, thanks'17:09
melwittI'm still trying to understand what's going on, so I'll have to comment later. (unmapped node assigned by hash ring)17:09
dansmithif there are no philosophical objections then I'll get them to do  that17:09
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mriedemi have no such objections, it's all optional17:10
dansmithmriedem: okay17:10
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dansmithmelwitt: let's continue so we don't miss anything then and we can circle back to discuss more at the end if you want17:10
bauzasI'm not opiniated either17:10
mriedemi'm told there are at least 30 tripleo core team members so finding someone to test it should be easy :)17:10
dansmithheh17:10
dansmithwell, getting it tested won't be too hard, yeah :)17:11
melwittyeah, I don't expect to be opinionated, just need to read through the bug and patch17:11
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dansmiththe versionI had last night was just thrown together and didn't work anyway17:11
dansmithmelwitt: okay17:11
dansmithso, I think the rest of the bugs on the list here have been here for a while and have patches up17:11
dansmithI think I've voted on most of them at one time or another17:11
dansmithanything specific people want to bring up about any of these?17:11
tssuryanope17:12
bauzasIIRC, the tripleo folks had an experimental job, nope ?17:12
dansmithtssurya: your marker reset one will have to change again I guess, sorry about that :/17:12
tssuryadansmith: yes I have to re-rebase :)17:12
mriedembauzas: that job won't do anything if tripleo itself isn't changed to use the new flag17:12
dansmithtssurya: apologies :)17:12
tssuryadansmith: no its fine I will ping you when I do that17:13
bauzasmriedem: sure, I'm saying they could magically test things17:13
dansmithtssurya: ack17:13
tssuryadansmith: btw, this has been there for some time - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519275/, I think you and the submitter disagree on some things17:13
tssuryajust bringing it to your notice17:14
dansmithtssurya: ah okay I'll look17:14
dansmiththe other non-WIP two have +2s from me, so other people could slam them in easily17:14
dansmithI have updated the priorities etherpad to highlight the ones that need one more +217:14
dansmithor did yesterday17:15
tssuryaack17:15
dansmithany other bugs to highlight?17:15
tssuryano17:15
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dansmith#topic open reviews17:16
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dansmithSo edleafe has got the member_of api patch up and close to being merged, which is required for my placement request filter stuff17:16
dansmithI've rebased on it, but it has moved a bit since I did17:16
dansmithbut once that merges, the rest will be ready for review, up until the last WIP at the end17:16
dansmithI was thinking about how to test this, other than just with functional tests17:16
dansmithcould do it potentially in tempest by creating aggregates and making sure that it refuses to build with no matching tenant aggregate, but otherwise it'd be a little hard17:17
mriedemyou probably missed my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545002/ since i didn't vote17:17
dansmithany comments or opinions on how that should be done?17:17
mriedembut i was going to ask for functional tests for all of the new filters too17:17
dansmithmriedem: ah yeah17:17
mriedemi don't think we need tempest for these filters17:17
dansmithaight cool17:18
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mriedemthe shit gibi is working on with port bw allocation crap, that's definitely tempest territory17:18
dansmithany other open reviews people want to highlight?17:18
mriedemuh yeah17:19
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/remove-nova-network+(status:open+OR+status:merged)17:19
mriedemthat moves the cells v1 job in tree17:19
dansmithoh my17:19
mriedemand then changes it to use neutron17:19
dansmithdoes it work?17:19
mriedemyeah17:19
dansmithamazing17:19
* dansmith puts that on the prio etherpad17:19
mriedemi've rechecked a few times and hit some race failures,17:19
mriedembut have fixed up the config and blacklist that i don't think those should be a problem now,17:20
dansmithawesome17:20
mriedemproblem was some tempest tests were looking for active ports assuming that b/c the server was active the ports would be17:20
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dansmithI can't believe that wasn't more of a giant dumpster fire17:20
mriedemme neither17:20
dansmithmakes me suspicious ;)17:20
mriedemi have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-network for tracking removal work which is a specless bp17:20
mriedemon the agenda for thursday17:21
dansmithokay cool17:21
mriedemunless melwitt wants to just make an executive decision now17:21
melwittI just approved it since we agreed at the PTG17:21
mriedemalright17:21
mriedemcool17:21
dansmiththe other one we need to make sure gets approved is the xenapi one that will lead to removing the upcall17:21
bauzasI proxy my +1 here for the nova-net removal17:21
mriedemproxy?17:22
mriedemfor yourself?17:22
bauzasgiven I won't attend the meeting17:22
mriedemoh17:22
mriedemheh17:22
mriedemnext time i ask laura how she spent $200 at target i'll preface with "i'll let my proxy ask this"17:22
dansmithokay any other open reviews?17:22
bauzasmriedem: uh17:23
mriedemend it17:23
dansmith#topic open discussion17:23
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dansmithmelwitt: want to discuss the hash ring stuff, or just leave you to read the bug?17:24
tssuryaQuestion - Do we still plan to keep this NewtonCellsCheck Test in Rocky ? -> https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_sqlalchemy_migration.py#L356 ; since it uses a particularly older DBVersion it fails for my new DB version; not sure how to handle it because it is wrong to just update it I guess.17:24
tssuryadansmith: oops, after you17:24
melwittdansmith: I'll read the bug. thanks tho17:24
dansmithmelwitt: ack17:24
mriedemtssurya: do you have a patch where that's failing? otherwise i don't understand the problem.17:24
tssuryahttp://logs.openstack.org/05/552505/1/check/openstack-tox-py27/d5ecd2c/testr_results.html.gz17:24
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dansmithah because the model is changing17:25
dansmiththe last time we hit something like this we just removed the ancient check I think17:25
dansmiththe only other option is to convert it to straight sqla I think,17:26
dansmithand in that case at least, we just removed it17:26
dansmithit being the test17:26
mriedemi think i've converted to using straight sqla17:26
mriedemin at least one case like this17:26
dansmithyeah for flavors I did I think17:26
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/3ca7eaab0287ce3f6d556baf0d1e0bb2f9d8aeb5#diff-43368cee9c9999756b4b7d140ef1055aR38517:26
dansmithbecause we had default flavors in the initial migration or something17:26
tssuryahmm, so I do something similar and keep the test17:27
dansmithmriedem: that is the opposite problem here though17:27
mriedemhow?17:27
mriedemi added description to the flavors table, and an older migratoin using the model couldn't handle that17:27
mriedemsame issue here17:28
dansmithit's not doing create,17:28
dansmithit's doing save as part of the test17:28
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_sqlalchemy_migration.py#L44017:28
dansmithyou'd have to convert the test itself to not use the objects17:28
mriedemit's failing on create17:28
dansmithoh you're right, sorry I was looking at models.py::save()17:28
dansmith  File "/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/nova/.tox/py27/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/models.py", line 50, in save17:28
dansmiththat line17:28
dansmithbut it's create in the object yeah17:29
mriedemi think the test is just using the object as a convenience17:29
dansmithit is yeah17:29
mriedemchanging all of those create calls could be annoying17:29
mriedemunless you monkeypatched it or something17:30
mriedemidk, i generally don't like just deleting tests for code that we still have in tree17:30
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mriedemespecially now that branches are never going away :)17:30
tssuryaoh yea17:30
dansmithit's not that many cases, it's quite doable17:30
mriedemtssurya: i could help out if you need it by putting a patch at the bottom of your series to do that change17:31
tssuryamriedem : awesome thanks!17:31
mriedembetter than looking at gd specs anyway17:31
tssuryamriedem : I already have a need help thing in the priorities etherpad also for you17:32
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mriedemooo i'm honored17:32
tssuryaregarding another test :)17:32
dansmithmriedem: 0ce4dff41f8d38edf790a301ec8e7040b279d65a17:32
tssuryaso will add this too to the lsit17:32
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dansmithmriedem: that's the one I was thinking of where we just removed the test17:32
dansmithbut agree, if it's trivial to keep it, by all means17:32
mriedemtssurya: ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546660/ yeah i can help out with that after this17:33
mriedemi do enjoy writing tests...17:33
tssuryaI am up for removing it considering its Newton test17:33
mriedemtssurya: but someone could skip newton17:33
mriedemand go directly to pike or some crap17:33
tssuryamriedem : yea your call, :)17:33
mriedemi'll push a patch to convert that test to use sqla17:34
mriedemsee how bad it is17:34
tssuryathanks17:34
dansmithokay anything else for open discussion?17:34
tssuryanope17:35
dansmith#endmeeting17:35
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon20:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 14 20:01:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:01
ying_zuoo/20:01
e0nehi20:01
e0ne#topic Notices20:02
vladiskuzo/20:02
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e0nethere is about one month left until rocky-1 milestone20:03
david-lyleo/20:03
e0newe've got a lot of bugs targeted on it20:03
e0ne#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/rocky-120:03
e0neI'm going to go over this list and review patches for these bugs tomorrow20:04
e0neit would be great if all team can do it too20:05
vladiskuzI can help you with that20:06
e0nevladiskuz: thanks20:06
e0ne#topic high priority bugs20:06
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e0ne#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=20:06
e0neon&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search20:06
e0neoops. it's too long for IRC20:06
e0ne#link http://goo.gl/Cdi1iH20:07
e0nethere are 7 high non-assigned bugs20:07
e0nesome of them are 1-2 years old :(20:07
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e0nelet's go over them and decrease priority or try to fix20:08
vladiskuzMay be we need to recheck these old bugs?20:09
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e0nevladiskuz: +1.20:09
e0ne#topic django support20:10
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e0ne#link all patches for  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/django2-support are merged last week!20:11
e0neI hope, nothing is broken now20:11
vladiskuzgood job! congrats :D20:11
e0neanyway, we've got a lot of time to fix anything django2-related20:11
e0neit's great that we did it early in the release cycle timeframe20:12
e0neamotoki: thanks a lot for your hard job20:12
e0neI think, it's all from my side about updates20:13
e0ne#topic Open Discussion20:13
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e0ne#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/mock-framework-in-unit-tests20:14
vladiskuzI'm aware about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/mock-framework-in-unit-tests I don't want to flood review list with these patches. Can somebody take a look at these patches?20:15
e0newe do a good job on migrating to mock20:15
e0neit's a community goal for this cycle20:15
vladiskuzI continue to work on this blueprint20:16
e0nevladiskuz: this list is still in my TODOs lits20:17
e0nevladiskuz: thanks20:17
e0neying_zuo, david-lyle: do you have anything more to discuss?20:19
ying_zuonope20:19
david-lyleno20:19
e0neok20:19
e0neI'll create a doodle to try choose new meeting time20:20
ying_zuo+120:20
e0neI hope, we'll be able to get more people at the meetings20:20
vladiskuzIt will be great :)20:20
e0neit's hard to have a good option both for US, Europe and Asia but let's see how people vote20:22
e0ne#action e0ne to create a doodle for new meetings time20:22
e0nethanks everybody for the attendance20:23
e0nesee you next week20:24
vladiskuzhave a good one! thanks20:24
e0ne#endmeeting20:24
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