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jamesmcarthur_ | o/ | 14:01 |
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tobberydberg | o/ | 14:01 |
aprice | o/ | 14:02 |
tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud_wg | 14:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 14 14:02:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:02 |
tobberydberg | Hi and welcome everyone! | 14:03 |
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pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:03 |
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pilgrimstack | partially here ;) (double meetings) | 14:04 |
tobberydberg | I know =) | 14:04 |
tobberydberg | Maybe not next time ;-) | 14:04 |
tobberydberg | Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:04 |
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tobberydberg | Please put your name there as well! | 14:04 |
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tobberydberg | zhipeng: are you around? | 14:05 |
tobberydberg | #topic 1. Recap PTG | 14:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "1. Recap PTG (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:05 | |
tobberydberg | So, my first PTG and the first PTG where we as a group had an official agenda | 14:06 |
tobberydberg | Very happy to see that we had a lot of interest from the community with the things that we do | 14:06 |
tobberydberg | Filled up the room basically both days | 14:07 |
tobberydberg | Thanks for the support there everyone! | 14:07 |
zhipeng | tobberydberg i'm tangled in cyborg meeting | 14:07 |
zhipeng | but will lurk around :) | 14:07 |
tobberydberg | Nice to meet a lot of new people, some of them colleagues of yours pilgrimstack =) | 14:07 |
zhipeng | btw should we send out a recap to the mailinglist ? | 14:07 |
tobberydberg | Ok zhipeng | 14:08 |
tobberydberg | zhipeng: Don't forget to vote - https://doodle.com/poll/2kv4h79xypmathac | 14:08 |
tobberydberg | pretty please right away =) | 14:08 |
tobberydberg | Sure zhipeng ... an action that I can put on you? | 14:09 |
mrhillsman | wrong room :) | 14:09 |
zhipeng | haha i'm ok with the current schedule | 14:09 |
pilgrimstack | If you could send the report to the ML it would be interesting for me | 14:09 |
zhipeng | ok i think I could try to do that | 14:09 |
tobberydberg | Absolutely! Thanks zhipeng | 14:10 |
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tobberydberg | #action zhipeng to send out PTG recap - tobberydberg to help out | 14:10 |
tobberydberg | With above said, think and hope that we will get more people joining our meetings | 14:10 |
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tobberydberg | one feedback was that our channel was a little bit dead - so hope to move these meetings there as well when we decide up on a new time | 14:11 |
aprice | I also think that as we are collecting the passport feedback, we can encourage more people to join the bi-weekly meetings. | 14:11 |
tobberydberg | to get the discussion going there, and hope that will help in getting more discussions in there as well | 14:12 |
tobberydberg | sounds perfect aprice | 14:12 |
tobberydberg | so, leaving that at that ... mail will be written... | 14:13 |
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tobberydberg | #topic 2. Poll/voting new meeting slot | 14:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "2. Poll/voting new meeting slot (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:13 | |
tobberydberg | #link https://doodle.com/poll/2kv4h79xypmathac | 14:14 |
tobberydberg | Poll was setup ... some of you have voted | 14:14 |
tobberydberg | 1400 UTC Thursday odd weeks - thats the one that everyone was ok with | 14:15 |
tobberydberg | Had hoped to get som votes in there from people in APAC and pacific time zone as well to see if it would be possible to get them to join more often | 14:16 |
tobberydberg | But, think we put this to a vote here | 14:17 |
tobberydberg | #startvote agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Yes, No | 14:17 |
openstack | Begin voting on: agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 14:17 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:17 |
tobberydberg | Yes | 14:18 |
tobberydberg | #vote Yes | 14:18 |
mrhillsman | #vote Yes | 14:18 |
aprice | #vote Yes | 14:18 |
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jamesmcarthur_ | #vote Yes | 14:18 |
zhipeng | #vote yes | 14:19 |
tobberydberg | pilgrimstack pasuder ... if you would like to vote - now it is time =) | 14:19 |
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pasuder | Hello, sorry for being late.. | 14:19 |
pasuder | Need to know the question :D | 14:19 |
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pasuder | Checking logs from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-03-14-14.02.log.txt | 14:20 |
tobberydberg | agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ? Yes, No | 14:20 |
pasuder | #vote yes | 14:21 |
tobberydberg | Thanks | 14:21 |
tobberydberg | #endvote | 14:21 |
openstack | Voted on "agree to new meeting time to be Thursdays odd weeks at 1400 UTC ?" Results are | 14:21 |
openstack | Yes (6): jamesmcarthur_, mrhillsman, pasuder, aprice, zhipeng, tobberydberg | 14:21 |
pasuder | uff, read logs from that meeting and I am in | 14:22 |
tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to change meeting time and channel to #openstack-publiccloud in wiki etc | 14:22 |
tobberydberg | Since we have aprice and jamesmcarthur_ here ... I'm assuming the PP is on your agenda? ?= | 14:23 |
aprice | yeah, and I would like to provide an update on another piece as well | 14:24 |
aprice | for the passport program, we have begun outreach to all of the participating organizations to collect feedback. | 14:24 |
aprice | We have heard from a handful, but will share all of the feedback once it is collected - thank you to everyone who has contributed. | 14:25 |
tobberydberg | +1 | 14:25 |
* pasuder clapping | 14:25 | |
tobberydberg | I will do my part soon ... if not marketing has provided it already =) | 14:25 |
aprice | Another update is that it has been decided to wind down TryStack | 14:25 |
aprice | we are going to have that page redirected to the OpenStack Start page (https://www.openstack.org/software/start/) | 14:26 |
aprice | where the Passport Program is the first thing listed | 14:26 |
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mrhillsman | i was wondering about trystack | 14:26 |
aprice | We collected feedback from tobbyrydberg and made some updates to that landing page as well as the Marketplace, so this will be another step in the process to direct more qualified traffic to the program. | 14:27 |
mrhillsman | glad passport is an option as i was going to suggest openlab :) | 14:27 |
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aprice | mrhillsman - we should look at getting openlab on the start page :) | 14:27 |
tobberydberg | Awesome | 14:27 |
tobberydberg | for the PP at least =) | 14:28 |
tobberydberg | yes, getting openlab there is another good thing +1 | 14:28 |
jamesmcarthur_ | yes - agreed. we can add OpenLab to the start page. | 14:28 |
aprice | mrhillsman: jimmy and I can sync with you on getting something added to that page. it's one of our most highly visited pages | 14:29 |
mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:29 |
mrhillsman | after openlab site is redone :) | 14:29 |
tobberydberg | Will be really interesting to see what this does with the traffic to the different clouds | 14:29 |
mrhillsman | ++ | 14:29 |
aprice | but yeah - that's all I have around the passport program. I will keep everyone updated as we get more feedback. I was planning to share the feedback with the PCWG and the UC | 14:29 |
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tobberydberg | thanks aprice - looking forward to that feedback | 14:30 |
aprice | no problem | 14:30 |
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tobberydberg | anything else or any questions regarding that? | 14:31 |
jamesmcarthur_ | aprice: and I have to drop off for another meeting. | 14:32 |
jamesmcarthur_ | can y'all ping us if there is something that needs our attention? | 14:32 |
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tobberydberg | for sure! Thanks for joining jamesmcarthur_ | 14:32 |
tobberydberg | then ... moving on... | 14:33 |
tobberydberg | #topic 4. High level planning Vancouver | 14:33 |
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tobberydberg | Might be that we bring this to the agenda next meeting as well since we hope to have better attendance then =) | 14:34 |
mrhillsman | a ML thread could be beneficial as well | 14:34 |
tobberydberg | But, I have a list things that I would like us to focus on, but would like to have suggestions out of the blue from everyone before I write those down | 14:35 |
tobberydberg | +1 mrhillsman - for sure | 14:35 |
tobberydberg | I will do that as well | 14:36 |
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tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to write email to ML about feedback/suggestions of focus areas for Vancouver | 14:36 |
tobberydberg | Feel free to write down any suggestions to the etherpad | 14:37 |
pilgrimstack | do any of you had or has to work on important upgrade like Juno to something more up-to-date? | 14:38 |
pilgrimstack | I'm exchanging with Thierry about it | 14:38 |
pilgrimstack | there probably someone from Yahoo who will present a talk about a similar upgrade | 14:39 |
tobberydberg | Well, we are performing 15 upgrades during the spring here =) | 14:39 |
tobberydberg | not multi-hop though, and not frpm Juno =) | 14:39 |
pilgrimstack | we though about a workshop in Vancouver about this topic | 14:40 |
tobberydberg | forum session?? | 14:40 |
pilgrimstack | not necessary only for public cloud provider | 14:40 |
tobberydberg | no - operators in general | 14:40 |
tobberydberg | ++ | 14:40 |
tobberydberg | Really good topic for a forum session I believe | 14:41 |
pilgrimstack | ok, yes probably a forum session | 14:41 |
pilgrimstack | who are interested? tobberydberg and ? | 14:41 |
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tobberydberg | I can assure you that a lot of people will be interested in that!! | 14:42 |
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pilgrimstack | ok great | 14:43 |
tobberydberg | Add it to the list I started at the etherpad | 14:44 |
tobberydberg | And, add more ... brainstorming ... we can setup a separate etherpad for just that until next meeting | 14:44 |
pasuder | :) | 14:45 |
pasuder | tobberydberg: will we do some sum up of those common issues which are being reported on launchpad? | 14:45 |
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tobberydberg | Besides the current things with PP and missing features, I believe that we should try to do more regarding SDKs certification and zhipeng 's blockchain proposal | 14:47 |
zhipeng | thx tobberydberg | 14:47 |
pasuder | OK | 14:47 |
tobberydberg | pasuder: Yes, we will create sessions focused o that | 14:47 |
pasuder | OK, thx tobberydberg | 14:47 |
tobberydberg | So, continue to put you suggestions there and I'll reaching out to the ML about this | 14:49 |
tobberydberg | #topic 5. Other topics | 14:49 |
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tobberydberg | 10 minutes to other topics | 14:50 |
tobberydberg | Something that is on your minds? :-) | 14:50 |
pasuder | Great PTG :) I noticed that you mentioned that already, but I would like to thank you all who was there :D | 14:50 |
tobberydberg | ++ pasuder | 14:51 |
pasuder | Great to meet you all | 14:51 |
tobberydberg | Totally agree! Really nice to spend some time with you all! | 14:51 |
tobberydberg | Became a few extra days as well =) | 14:51 |
pilgrimstack | should we expect a snow storm or something like that in Vancouver too? :p | 14:52 |
tobberydberg | Really hope I can squeeze in the next PTG in my schedule as well | 14:52 |
tobberydberg | hahaha | 14:52 |
pasuder | :) regarding this Excel and those things which were in the Excel from Sydney, I created some "bugs" on page https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-publiccloud-wg which I confirmed with Łabędź from OVH | 14:52 |
tobberydberg | Whatever reson for us to stay a couple of extra days is fine pilgrimstack ) | 14:52 |
tobberydberg | thans pasuder | 14:53 |
pasuder | But at this moment, as pilgrimstack said, we are completely focused on upgrade from Juno to Newton | 14:53 |
tobberydberg | I will spend some time on that as well! | 14:53 |
pasuder | So, we have a little freeze in that area. | 14:53 |
pasuder | OK, thx tobberydberg | 14:53 |
tobberydberg | totally get that ... in the same situation here basically | 14:53 |
tobberydberg | hope to free up some time getting closer to May... | 14:54 |
pasuder | Yeah? what kind upgrade to you have? | 14:54 |
pasuder | from which version to which? | 14:54 |
tobberydberg | Mitaka->Newton->Ocata->Pike | 14:54 |
tobberydberg | Not in all regions - some are on Pike, some on Ocata | 14:55 |
pasuder | Hmm, nice | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | I think we have something like 7 upgrades to go before may =) | 14:55 |
pilgrimstack | and you run each step? | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | yes, we do | 14:55 |
pasuder | woops, not multi-hop | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | Not during same service window | 14:55 |
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tobberydberg | nope, multi-hop would have been nice though =) | 14:56 |
pilgrimstack | your oldest version is Mitaka? | 14:56 |
pasuder | Yeap :) | 14:56 |
pasuder | In our case is control plane replac | 14:56 |
pasuder | replacement is required during upgrade | 14:56 |
tobberydberg | Not anymore, now days oldest is Newton | 14:56 |
pasuder | Good for you! | 14:57 |
tobberydberg | haha | 14:57 |
pasuder | We would like to have upgrade from Newton to Ocata/Pike later this year | 14:57 |
tobberydberg | well ... it hasn't been that good I can assure you =) | 14:57 |
pasuder | ;) we will see very soon, I hope this year | 14:57 |
tobberydberg | mmm | 14:57 |
pasuder | So we will be in touch ;) | 14:57 |
tobberydberg | it's alot of moving pieces =) | 14:58 |
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tobberydberg | +1 | 14:58 |
tobberydberg | So, getting close to the end of the meeting here | 14:58 |
pasuder | We were wondering if this topic (upgrades) are good topics to put on list within public cloud wg | 14:58 |
pasuder | What do you think tobberydberg (last question)? | 14:58 |
tobberydberg | Absolutely | 14:58 |
pasuder | ok, | 14:58 |
pasuder | I will talk with Łabędź | 14:59 |
pasuder | thx | 14:59 |
tobberydberg | Think pilgrimstack added that as a suggestion to the list of forum sessions | 14:59 |
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tobberydberg | Nice talking to you folks as always | 14:59 |
pasuder | Yeap, thx! | 14:59 |
tobberydberg | Lets try to keep on discussion in the publiccloud channel to get that moving in the right direction as well! =) | 14:59 |
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tobberydberg | See you soon and thanks for today! | 15:00 |
pasuder | ok, I will let you know there | 15:00 |
pasuder | Bye! | 15:00 |
tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 14 15:00:20 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-03-14-14.02.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-03-14-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
witek | Courtesy Monasca meeting reminder in #openstack-meeting-3: rhochmuth, witek, jayahn,iurygregory,ezpz,igorn,haad,sc,joadavis, akiraY,tobiajo,Neptu,dougsz,fouadben, amofakhar | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-03-14-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 14 15:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
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jgr | Hello | 15:01 |
sc | witek: yo | 15:01 |
witek | hi | 15:01 |
dougsz | hey there | 15:01 |
amofakhar | Hello | 15:01 |
witek | nice to see you all | 15:01 |
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witek | we've got some topics in the agenda | 15:01 |
witek | let's start | 15:01 |
witek | #topic Rocky priorities | 15:01 |
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sc | surprise surprise! I have an hour for the meeting! | 15:01 |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/552896 | 15:01 |
witek | :) | 15:01 |
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witek | I have sorted the topics according to accumulated points | 15:02 |
amofakhar | I did it already | 15:02 |
amofakhar | looks good | 15:02 |
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witek | the rendered output is here http://logs.openstack.org/96/552896/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/180a924/html/priorities/rocky-priorities.html | 15:02 |
witek | I have left left-over community goals as well | 15:03 |
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witek | also merged logs related topics to one `Query logs pipeline` | 15:03 |
witek | again, it's not ultimate list, it's just a summary of topics which most of us find important | 15:04 |
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witek | as orientation | 15:04 |
witek | as next step, it would be nice to have owners for each topic, at least from the first group | 15:05 |
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witek | volunteers very welcome :) | 15:05 |
jgr | You can put my name next to the Alembic topic | 15:05 |
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witek | thanks, will do | 15:06 |
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amofakhar | I like to help in Alembic too | 15:06 |
witek | great | 15:06 |
sc | for the time I can dedicate to monasca "Support Python 3.5" it's enough for me, I cannot get more | 15:06 |
witek | it's fine too | 15:06 |
jgu_ | you can put my name to the retention policy, and Scott Grasley and my name to the persister python performance/java deprecation | 15:07 |
witek | nice, thank you | 15:07 |
witek | for the retention policy, we could split it for Influx and Cassandra | 15:08 |
jgu_ | yes once we get down to the db plugin level | 15:08 |
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aagate | you can put me and jodavis next to monasca transform refresh | 15:09 |
witek | I'll add the names to the list | 15:09 |
witek | for the rest we can fill in later | 15:09 |
witek | I have also started adding tasks which we already have to the Board | 15:10 |
witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/60 | 15:10 |
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sc | we can update as work is done and we have time, can't we? | 15:10 |
witek | sc: you mean update prio owners? | 15:10 |
sc | witek: yes | 15:11 |
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witek | yes, so if someone has time and would like to lead one of the topics, we can put him/her in the list | 15:11 |
witek | anytime | 15:11 |
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witek | for the Board, I still haven't checked if we can automatize it | 15:12 |
witek | #action witek checks StoryBoard automation | 15:12 |
jgr | Automation is good :-) | 15:13 |
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witek | I guess, I'm done for the fist point | 15:14 |
witek | #topic DB migration spec | 15:14 |
*** openstack changes topic to "DB migration spec (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:14 | |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/552030 | 15:14 |
witek | we already have first review from nseyvet_ and amofakhar | 15:15 |
witek | thanks for the spec jgr | 15:15 |
jgr | No worries :-) | 15:15 |
witek | I'll review as well in the next days | 15:16 |
* sc going to review COB | 15:16 | |
witek | any comments on this? | 15:17 |
witek | #topic service domain for agent users | 15:18 |
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witek | jgr: you seem to have an update from Keystone front | 15:18 |
jgr | witek: Indeed | 15:18 |
jgr | So the Keystone folks appear to be pretty happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396331/ so far | 15:19 |
jgr | Even Adam Young likes it (he had some reservations about it initially) | 15:19 |
witek | sounds good, should we keep our prio topics though? | 15:20 |
jgr | It is looking good enough that I'm toying with the idea of giving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507110/ an early overhaul to switch it to application credentials | 15:20 |
jgr | There is a risk with that: I don't know whether the Keystone side of this will be ready in time. | 15:21 |
jgr | But on the bright side we wouldn't need to build this elaborate hack with the service user domain only to tear it down again in the next release. | 15:21 |
jgr | Thoughts? | 15:21 |
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witek | why not wait few weeks and see which progress Keystone implementation makes | 15:23 |
jgu_ | yeah, I would lean towards to go for the final goal :-) | 15:23 |
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jgr | Ok, good to hear that. That's pretty much my plan :-) | 15:25 |
jgr | (I don't want to rush into a domain based implementation early on) | 15:25 |
jgr | Meanwhile I'll have enough on my plate with the Alembic stuff anyway... | 15:26 |
witek | OK, please keep us updated on the whitelist progress | 15:26 |
witek | #topic spec for oslo.policy | 15:27 |
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jgr | Will do | 15:27 |
amofakhar | comments are addressed and ready for review | 15:27 |
witek | thanks amofakhar | 15:28 |
witek | that's the second or third round of reviews | 15:28 |
amofakhar | yes it is | 15:28 |
amofakhar | third i think | 15:28 |
amofakhar | nothing more i just wanted to ask you to review it | 15:29 |
witek | adding for my list for this week | 15:29 |
witek | thanks | 15:29 |
amofakhar | thanks | 15:30 |
witek | change with implementation is also there | 15:30 |
sc | witek: amofakhar: could you share the URL for the review? | 15:30 |
amofakhar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511245/ | 15:30 |
witek | spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511245/ | 15:30 |
sc | thanks | 15:31 |
witek | :) | 15:31 |
witek | change with implementation is also there | 15:31 |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546956/ | 15:31 |
amofakhar | yes and it is waiting for review since before the PTG | 15:31 |
amofakhar | of course it is a big patch | 15:32 |
amofakhar | i am waiting for it to be reviewed and then start to work on monasca-log-api | 15:32 |
witek | reviews very welcome | 15:33 |
* sc added himself | 15:33 | |
amofakhar | thanks | 15:34 |
witek | thanks amofakhar for driving this | 15:34 |
amofakhar | ur welcome | 15:34 |
witek | #topic unit tests in monasca-ui | 15:34 |
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amofakhar | I have seen in monasca-ui unit tests are not in /tests directory | 15:35 |
amofakhar | do you have any idea why it is not obey the role ? | 15:35 |
witek | no :( | 15:35 |
amofakhar | do you think it is ok? | 15:35 |
amofakhar | is it ok to do a clean up and move all tests into /tests ? | 15:36 |
amofakhar | because i have seen most of them has no unit test | 15:36 |
sc | amofakhar: for yes, the cleaner the better | 15:36 |
amofakhar | and it is better and recommended to have all tests in a place | 15:37 |
amofakhar | good, then i will do that in spare times | 15:37 |
witek | please compare with other horizon plugins | 15:37 |
amofakhar | sure | 15:37 |
witek | I've just looked at magnum-ui | 15:38 |
witek | they have similar structure | 15:38 |
witek | https://github.com/openstack/magnum-ui/blob/master/magnum_ui/content/clusters/tests.py | 15:38 |
amofakhar | I will check more plugins and search if there is any role about it or it's just a bad structure which is copied | 15:40 |
witek | good idea | 15:40 |
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witek | thanks amofakhar | 15:42 |
witek | some more comments on this? | 15:42 |
amofakhar | thank u too | 15:42 |
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witek | do we have other topics to discuss? | 15:43 |
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witek | if not, thank you all | 15:43 |
witek | and see you next week | 15:43 |
witek | same place, same time :) | 15:43 |
amofakhar | good bye | 15:43 |
witek | bye bye | 15:44 |
dougsz | thanks | 15:44 |
sc | bye | 15:44 |
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jgr | Bye | 15:44 |
witek | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 14 15:44:17 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-14-15.00.html | 15:44 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-14-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-14-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 14 17:01:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:01 |
melwitt | o7 | 17:01 |
tssurya | o/ | 17:01 |
dansmith | sorry, I clicked the wrong channel and was all "where the fsck are those people?" | 17:01 |
tssurya | :D | 17:01 |
melwitt | heh | 17:01 |
dansmith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv2 | 17:02 |
belmoreira | o/ | 17:02 |
dansmith | #topic bugs | 17:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:02 | |
dansmith | So, first bug on the list is something I want to talk about selfishly | 17:02 |
* bauzas sits at the back of the room | 17:02 | |
dansmith | internally, ironic people have been saying for a while that host discovery with ironic nodes was buggy and problematic, | 17:03 |
dansmith | and I wasn't buying it | 17:03 |
mriedem | o/ | 17:03 |
dansmith | we added the scheduler periodic for them so things were a little more automatic, which helped a little, but there's a big problem they finally illuminated | 17:03 |
dansmith | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1755602 | 17:03 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1755602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ironic computes may not be discovered when node count is less than compute count" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 17:03 |
dansmith | I tried to put a lot of detail in the bug there, so hopefully it's clear what is going on, | 17:04 |
dansmith | but basically if you have more nova-computes than ironic nodes, | 17:04 |
dansmith | we'll discover one host and map the compute node, and then never discover other hosts until they get an unmapped node assigned to them by the hash ring | 17:04 |
dansmith | they've been working around it by deleting nodes and re-discovering, or just having enough nodes to not notice, | 17:04 |
dansmith | but it's a real problem for bootstrapping a deployment | 17:05 |
dansmith | so I have a potential patch up, which lets us discover by compute service instead of just node, | 17:05 |
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dansmith | which also solves their problem of not being able to get discovery done until they have ironic nodes enrolled, which was an early complaint about this process in newton or ocata from them if you recall | 17:05 |
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dansmith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552691/ | 17:06 |
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dansmith | so that is backportable and minimally invasive, but I think like compute node, we probably need to grow a mapped field so we can do that efficiently | 17:06 |
dansmith | the ironic people like this because they can provision their nova services, get them mapped, and then move on to ironic and not have to come back to re-do discovery | 17:06 |
dansmith | TBH, I'm not sure why we didn't just do this when they initially complained and we added the periodic, | 17:07 |
dansmith | so I'm putting it out here in case anyone can see why we *shouldn't* do this | 17:07 |
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mriedem | have the internal guys picked this up and tested it yet? | 17:07 |
dansmith | they haven't because I told them to wait, and because they have to change when this is run and with the new flag | 17:08 |
dansmith | so I wanted to float it at least before they go do that | 17:08 |
dansmith | (and this came up only last night) | 17:08 |
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dansmith | they currently run it really late and in a weird spot because they have to in order for it to work at all, | 17:08 |
dansmith | so this is moving from like total post-deploy steps way up into the nova phase of setup | 17:08 |
dansmith | which in tripleo moves it from like heat to puppet or something | 17:09 |
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mriedem | sure, i'd just like to know that someone on the deployment side of the house that needs this can pick it up, hack it in to a test env and say 'yup does the trick, thanks' | 17:09 |
melwitt | I'm still trying to understand what's going on, so I'll have to comment later. (unmapped node assigned by hash ring) | 17:09 |
dansmith | if there are no philosophical objections then I'll get them to do that | 17:09 |
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mriedem | i have no such objections, it's all optional | 17:10 |
dansmith | mriedem: okay | 17:10 |
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dansmith | melwitt: let's continue so we don't miss anything then and we can circle back to discuss more at the end if you want | 17:10 |
bauzas | I'm not opiniated either | 17:10 |
mriedem | i'm told there are at least 30 tripleo core team members so finding someone to test it should be easy :) | 17:10 |
dansmith | heh | 17:10 |
dansmith | well, getting it tested won't be too hard, yeah :) | 17:11 |
melwitt | yeah, I don't expect to be opinionated, just need to read through the bug and patch | 17:11 |
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dansmith | the versionI had last night was just thrown together and didn't work anyway | 17:11 |
dansmith | melwitt: okay | 17:11 |
dansmith | so, I think the rest of the bugs on the list here have been here for a while and have patches up | 17:11 |
dansmith | I think I've voted on most of them at one time or another | 17:11 |
dansmith | anything specific people want to bring up about any of these? | 17:11 |
tssurya | nope | 17:12 |
bauzas | IIRC, the tripleo folks had an experimental job, nope ? | 17:12 |
dansmith | tssurya: your marker reset one will have to change again I guess, sorry about that :/ | 17:12 |
tssurya | dansmith: yes I have to re-rebase :) | 17:12 |
mriedem | bauzas: that job won't do anything if tripleo itself isn't changed to use the new flag | 17:12 |
dansmith | tssurya: apologies :) | 17:12 |
tssurya | dansmith: no its fine I will ping you when I do that | 17:13 |
bauzas | mriedem: sure, I'm saying they could magically test things | 17:13 |
dansmith | tssurya: ack | 17:13 |
tssurya | dansmith: btw, this has been there for some time - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519275/, I think you and the submitter disagree on some things | 17:13 |
tssurya | just bringing it to your notice | 17:14 |
dansmith | tssurya: ah okay I'll look | 17:14 |
dansmith | the other non-WIP two have +2s from me, so other people could slam them in easily | 17:14 |
dansmith | I have updated the priorities etherpad to highlight the ones that need one more +2 | 17:14 |
dansmith | or did yesterday | 17:15 |
tssurya | ack | 17:15 |
dansmith | any other bugs to highlight? | 17:15 |
tssurya | no | 17:15 |
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dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:16 |
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dansmith | So edleafe has got the member_of api patch up and close to being merged, which is required for my placement request filter stuff | 17:16 |
dansmith | I've rebased on it, but it has moved a bit since I did | 17:16 |
dansmith | but once that merges, the rest will be ready for review, up until the last WIP at the end | 17:16 |
dansmith | I was thinking about how to test this, other than just with functional tests | 17:16 |
dansmith | could do it potentially in tempest by creating aggregates and making sure that it refuses to build with no matching tenant aggregate, but otherwise it'd be a little hard | 17:17 |
mriedem | you probably missed my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545002/ since i didn't vote | 17:17 |
dansmith | any comments or opinions on how that should be done? | 17:17 |
mriedem | but i was going to ask for functional tests for all of the new filters too | 17:17 |
dansmith | mriedem: ah yeah | 17:17 |
mriedem | i don't think we need tempest for these filters | 17:17 |
dansmith | aight cool | 17:18 |
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mriedem | the shit gibi is working on with port bw allocation crap, that's definitely tempest territory | 17:18 |
dansmith | any other open reviews people want to highlight? | 17:18 |
mriedem | uh yeah | 17:19 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/remove-nova-network+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 17:19 |
mriedem | that moves the cells v1 job in tree | 17:19 |
dansmith | oh my | 17:19 |
mriedem | and then changes it to use neutron | 17:19 |
dansmith | does it work? | 17:19 |
mriedem | yeah | 17:19 |
dansmith | amazing | 17:19 |
* dansmith puts that on the prio etherpad | 17:19 | |
mriedem | i've rechecked a few times and hit some race failures, | 17:19 |
mriedem | but have fixed up the config and blacklist that i don't think those should be a problem now, | 17:20 |
dansmith | awesome | 17:20 |
mriedem | problem was some tempest tests were looking for active ports assuming that b/c the server was active the ports would be | 17:20 |
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dansmith | I can't believe that wasn't more of a giant dumpster fire | 17:20 |
mriedem | me neither | 17:20 |
dansmith | makes me suspicious ;) | 17:20 |
mriedem | i have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-network for tracking removal work which is a specless bp | 17:20 |
mriedem | on the agenda for thursday | 17:21 |
dansmith | okay cool | 17:21 |
mriedem | unless melwitt wants to just make an executive decision now | 17:21 |
melwitt | I just approved it since we agreed at the PTG | 17:21 |
mriedem | alright | 17:21 |
mriedem | cool | 17:21 |
dansmith | the other one we need to make sure gets approved is the xenapi one that will lead to removing the upcall | 17:21 |
bauzas | I proxy my +1 here for the nova-net removal | 17:21 |
mriedem | proxy? | 17:22 |
mriedem | for yourself? | 17:22 |
bauzas | given I won't attend the meeting | 17:22 |
mriedem | oh | 17:22 |
mriedem | heh | 17:22 |
mriedem | next time i ask laura how she spent $200 at target i'll preface with "i'll let my proxy ask this" | 17:22 |
dansmith | okay any other open reviews? | 17:22 |
bauzas | mriedem: uh | 17:23 |
mriedem | end it | 17:23 |
dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:23 |
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dansmith | melwitt: want to discuss the hash ring stuff, or just leave you to read the bug? | 17:24 |
tssurya | Question - Do we still plan to keep this NewtonCellsCheck Test in Rocky ? -> https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_sqlalchemy_migration.py#L356 ; since it uses a particularly older DBVersion it fails for my new DB version; not sure how to handle it because it is wrong to just update it I guess. | 17:24 |
tssurya | dansmith: oops, after you | 17:24 |
melwitt | dansmith: I'll read the bug. thanks tho | 17:24 |
dansmith | melwitt: ack | 17:24 |
mriedem | tssurya: do you have a patch where that's failing? otherwise i don't understand the problem. | 17:24 |
tssurya | http://logs.openstack.org/05/552505/1/check/openstack-tox-py27/d5ecd2c/testr_results.html.gz | 17:24 |
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dansmith | ah because the model is changing | 17:25 |
dansmith | the last time we hit something like this we just removed the ancient check I think | 17:25 |
dansmith | the only other option is to convert it to straight sqla I think, | 17:26 |
dansmith | and in that case at least, we just removed it | 17:26 |
dansmith | it being the test | 17:26 |
mriedem | i think i've converted to using straight sqla | 17:26 |
mriedem | in at least one case like this | 17:26 |
dansmith | yeah for flavors I did I think | 17:26 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/3ca7eaab0287ce3f6d556baf0d1e0bb2f9d8aeb5#diff-43368cee9c9999756b4b7d140ef1055aR385 | 17:26 |
dansmith | because we had default flavors in the initial migration or something | 17:26 |
tssurya | hmm, so I do something similar and keep the test | 17:27 |
dansmith | mriedem: that is the opposite problem here though | 17:27 |
mriedem | how? | 17:27 |
mriedem | i added description to the flavors table, and an older migratoin using the model couldn't handle that | 17:27 |
mriedem | same issue here | 17:28 |
dansmith | it's not doing create, | 17:28 |
dansmith | it's doing save as part of the test | 17:28 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/db/test_sqlalchemy_migration.py#L440 | 17:28 |
dansmith | you'd have to convert the test itself to not use the objects | 17:28 |
mriedem | it's failing on create | 17:28 |
dansmith | oh you're right, sorry I was looking at models.py::save() | 17:28 |
dansmith | File "/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/nova/.tox/py27/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/models.py", line 50, in save | 17:28 |
dansmith | that line | 17:28 |
dansmith | but it's create in the object yeah | 17:29 |
mriedem | i think the test is just using the object as a convenience | 17:29 |
dansmith | it is yeah | 17:29 |
mriedem | changing all of those create calls could be annoying | 17:29 |
mriedem | unless you monkeypatched it or something | 17:30 |
mriedem | idk, i generally don't like just deleting tests for code that we still have in tree | 17:30 |
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mriedem | especially now that branches are never going away :) | 17:30 |
tssurya | oh yea | 17:30 |
dansmith | it's not that many cases, it's quite doable | 17:30 |
mriedem | tssurya: i could help out if you need it by putting a patch at the bottom of your series to do that change | 17:31 |
tssurya | mriedem : awesome thanks! | 17:31 |
mriedem | better than looking at gd specs anyway | 17:31 |
tssurya | mriedem : I already have a need help thing in the priorities etherpad also for you | 17:32 |
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mriedem | ooo i'm honored | 17:32 |
tssurya | regarding another test :) | 17:32 |
dansmith | mriedem: 0ce4dff41f8d38edf790a301ec8e7040b279d65a | 17:32 |
tssurya | so will add this too to the lsit | 17:32 |
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dansmith | mriedem: that's the one I was thinking of where we just removed the test | 17:32 |
dansmith | but agree, if it's trivial to keep it, by all means | 17:32 |
mriedem | tssurya: ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546660/ yeah i can help out with that after this | 17:33 |
mriedem | i do enjoy writing tests... | 17:33 |
tssurya | I am up for removing it considering its Newton test | 17:33 |
mriedem | tssurya: but someone could skip newton | 17:33 |
mriedem | and go directly to pike or some crap | 17:33 |
tssurya | mriedem : yea your call, :) | 17:33 |
mriedem | i'll push a patch to convert that test to use sqla | 17:34 |
mriedem | see how bad it is | 17:34 |
tssurya | thanks | 17:34 |
dansmith | okay anything else for open discussion? | 17:34 |
tssurya | nope | 17:35 |
dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 14 17:35:51 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2018/nova_cells.2018-03-14-17.01.html | 17:35 |
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e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 14 20:01:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:01 |
ying_zuo | o/ | 20:01 |
e0ne | hi | 20:01 |
e0ne | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
vladiskuz | o/ | 20:02 |
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e0ne | there is about one month left until rocky-1 milestone | 20:03 |
david-lyle | o/ | 20:03 |
e0ne | we've got a lot of bugs targeted on it | 20:03 |
e0ne | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/rocky-1 | 20:03 |
e0ne | I'm going to go over this list and review patches for these bugs tomorrow | 20:04 |
e0ne | it would be great if all team can do it too | 20:05 |
vladiskuz | I can help you with that | 20:06 |
e0ne | vladiskuz: thanks | 20:06 |
e0ne | #topic high priority bugs | 20:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "high priority bugs (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:06 | |
e0ne | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes= | 20:06 |
e0ne | on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 20:06 |
e0ne | oops. it's too long for IRC | 20:06 |
e0ne | #link http://goo.gl/Cdi1iH | 20:07 |
e0ne | there are 7 high non-assigned bugs | 20:07 |
e0ne | some of them are 1-2 years old :( | 20:07 |
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e0ne | let's go over them and decrease priority or try to fix | 20:08 |
vladiskuz | May be we need to recheck these old bugs? | 20:09 |
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e0ne | vladiskuz: +1. | 20:09 |
e0ne | #topic django support | 20:10 |
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e0ne | #link all patches for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/django2-support are merged last week! | 20:11 |
e0ne | I hope, nothing is broken now | 20:11 |
vladiskuz | good job! congrats :D | 20:11 |
e0ne | anyway, we've got a lot of time to fix anything django2-related | 20:11 |
e0ne | it's great that we did it early in the release cycle timeframe | 20:12 |
e0ne | amotoki: thanks a lot for your hard job | 20:12 |
e0ne | I think, it's all from my side about updates | 20:13 |
e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 20:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:13 | |
e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/mock-framework-in-unit-tests | 20:14 |
vladiskuz | I'm aware about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/mock-framework-in-unit-tests I don't want to flood review list with these patches. Can somebody take a look at these patches? | 20:15 |
e0ne | we do a good job on migrating to mock | 20:15 |
e0ne | it's a community goal for this cycle | 20:15 |
vladiskuz | I continue to work on this blueprint | 20:16 |
e0ne | vladiskuz: this list is still in my TODOs lits | 20:17 |
e0ne | vladiskuz: thanks | 20:17 |
e0ne | ying_zuo, david-lyle: do you have anything more to discuss? | 20:19 |
ying_zuo | nope | 20:19 |
david-lyle | no | 20:19 |
e0ne | ok | 20:19 |
e0ne | I'll create a doodle to try choose new meeting time | 20:20 |
ying_zuo | +1 | 20:20 |
e0ne | I hope, we'll be able to get more people at the meetings | 20:20 |
vladiskuz | It will be great :) | 20:20 |
e0ne | it's hard to have a good option both for US, Europe and Asia but let's see how people vote | 20:22 |
e0ne | #action e0ne to create a doodle for new meetings time | 20:22 |
e0ne | thanks everybody for the attendance | 20:23 |
e0ne | see you next week | 20:24 |
vladiskuz | have a good one! thanks | 20:24 |
e0ne | #endmeeting | 20:24 |
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