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| wanghao | #startmeeting zaqar | 02:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 02:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is wanghao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 02:00 |
| wanghao | hello everyone | 02:00 |
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| wanghao | yangzhenyu: hi | 02:03 |
| yangzhenyu | hi | 02:03 |
| wanghao | seems now only you and me.... | 02:03 |
| yangzhenyu | e... | 02:04 |
| wxy | o/ | 02:04 |
| wanghao | wxy: hi | 02:04 |
| yangzhenyu | wanghao, What are we going to discuss? | 02:05 |
| wanghao | okay let rock | 02:05 |
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| flwang1 | o/ | 02:05 |
| wanghao | #topic rocky scheduler | 02:05 |
| yangzhenyu | hi feilong | 02:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rocky scheduler (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:05 | |
| wanghao | flwang1: hi | 02:06 |
| wanghao | https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 02:06 |
| wanghao | here is the rocky schedule | 02:06 |
| wanghao | just reminder guys to follow the time line. | 02:07 |
| flwang1 | wanghao: got, thanks | 02:07 |
| wanghao | flwang1: np | 02:07 |
| flwang1 | btw, I would suggest to change our meeting from this channel to #zaqar | 02:07 |
| flwang1 | i think it would be easier for people to join | 02:08 |
| wanghao | en that's good too. | 02:08 |
| wanghao | I will update our wiki for this change. | 02:08 |
| wanghao | everyone else is ok with this? | 02:08 |
| yangzhenyu | I am ok | 02:08 |
| flwang1 | wanghao: you may also need a change for the meeting repo, IIRC | 02:08 |
| wanghao | wow, thanks for this tip. | 02:09 |
| wanghao | ok. let's jump to next | 02:10 |
| wanghao | #topic Rocky tasks | 02:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky tasks (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:10 | |
| wanghao | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-rocky-plan | 02:10 |
| wxy | is any feature under development? Then we can target them to R-1 IMO. | 02:11 |
| wanghao | queue filter is one from me. | 02:12 |
| wanghao | and others like delete message with clain id also can target R-1 too. | 02:13 |
| wanghao | so guys pls push those task if you're interest in it when you have time. | 02:14 |
| yangzhenyu | ok | 02:14 |
| wanghao | I know everyone is very busy. | 02:14 |
| wxy | some specs should be updated first. | 02:14 |
| wanghao | yes | 02:15 |
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| wanghao | let's enhance our review for this specs and let them merged soon before R-1 | 02:16 |
| wanghao | do anything else want to discuss for those tasks? | 02:17 |
| yangzhenyu | Websocket enhancement | 02:17 |
| yangzhenyu | I can add some functional like delay queue or dead letter queue | 02:18 |
| yangzhenyu | for websocket | 02:18 |
| wxy | we need a zuul job first | 02:18 |
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| wxy | now our tempest test jobs are all based on wsgi. | 02:19 |
| yangzhenyu | alright, I got it. | 02:20 |
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| wanghao | em, have any idea to add the test job? | 02:20 |
| wxy | base on zuul v3, it's easy to add now. | 02:20 |
| wxy | update the .zuul.yaml | 02:21 |
| yangzhenyu | any docs? | 02:21 |
| wxy | finding. | 02:21 |
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| wanghao | yangzhenyu: I think you can list the detailed jobs including the functional adding and test job. we can follow those tasks. | 02:22 |
| wanghao | wxy: thanks | 02:22 |
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| yangzhenyu | ok | 02:22 |
| wanghao | and we also need to see how to implement the tempest test for websocket. | 02:25 |
| wanghao | not very clear for me at least. | 02:25 |
| wanghao | will try it. | 02:27 |
| yangzhenyu | First of all, what tests are needed for websocket? tempest? unit? functional? interg? | 02:27 |
| wanghao | I think tempest is ok | 02:28 |
| wxy | can't find the exact url. I'd do it later. | 02:29 |
| wanghao | wxy: okay | 02:30 |
| wanghao | yangzhenyu: I think we can add some tempest tests fist, build a basic job in zuul. | 02:31 |
| yangzhenyu | en ok, first add tempest tests, then improve unit test and functional test. Finally, improve zaqar function, I think. | 02:32 |
| wxy | yangzhenyu: ++ | 02:32 |
| wxy | I can start an original patch for zuul jobs | 02:33 |
| wxy | then feel free to update it. :) | 02:33 |
| yangzhenyu | ok | 02:34 |
| yangzhenyu | Does this need to register bp? | 02:34 |
| wanghao | yangzhenyu: I'm thinking if ut is necessary, but others I agree too. | 02:35 |
| wxy | good to have | 02:35 |
| wanghao | +1 | 02:35 |
| wanghao | wxy: you can register one, thanks | 02:36 |
| wxy | sure | 02:37 |
| wanghao | okay, next topic | 02:37 |
| wanghao | #topic free discuss | 02:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "free discuss (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:37 | |
| wanghao | yangzhenyu: I want to discuss your patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517901/ | 02:37 |
| yangzhenyu | ok | 02:38 |
| flwang1 | wanghao: as I suggested before, I would recommend to talk to united stack (tong fang cloud) to get some feedback from them about zaqar | 02:39 |
| wxy | flwang1: any guys we can connect to ? | 02:40 |
| wanghao | flwang1: yes, recently I am finding the united stack guys from webchat | 02:40 |
| wanghao | I know a easycloud guy who may know some guys. | 02:40 |
| wanghao | I have joined some webchat group, want to get some feedback. | 02:41 |
| flwang1 | I just posted the contact card in our wechat group | 02:42 |
| flwang1 | you guys can talk to him | 02:42 |
| wanghao | flwang1: sure thanks | 02:42 |
| wanghao | yangzhenyu: back to your patch, I see your issue. | 02:44 |
| wanghao | yangzhenyu: but I feel the ttl that zaqar modifies, the new ttl will mean the time that this message could be lived more. | 02:45 |
| yangzhenyu | wanghao, this patch to solve bug/1730335. Our msg ttl is unchanged, But when the msg is claim status, it may change to smaller. | 02:46 |
| wanghao | So, ttl=claim_ttl+claim_grace make sense | 02:46 |
| wanghao | yes, it be smaller | 02:46 |
| yangzhenyu | But ttl is unchanged at the beginning. | 02:46 |
| yangzhenyu | always unchange, so it can not mean the msg could be lived more. | 02:47 |
| yangzhenyu | It is more like a total time to live. | 02:48 |
| wanghao | the meaning of ttl has been changed after modify it. | 02:48 |
| yangzhenyu | Not a remaining time. | 02:48 |
| * wxy leave for some internal things | 02:49 | |
| wanghao | but the total time to live is not the actual time that message keep in zaqar | 02:49 |
| wanghao | it's just a limit. | 02:50 |
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| wanghao | if we use ttl=ttl+claim_ttl+claim_grace, that means we didn't need claim_ttl and claim_grace any more. | 02:51 |
| wanghao | just give a defined value for ttl. | 02:52 |
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| wanghao | maybe we can split ttl to two parts. | 02:52 |
| yangzhenyu | This situation only occurs in the claim state and the message expires soon. | 02:53 |
| wanghao | yes, if user didn't claim the message, so the ttl will be what? | 02:53 |
| wanghao | ttl or ttl+claim_ttl_claim_grace? | 02:54 |
| yangzhenyu | example, ttl | 02:54 |
| yangzhenyu | ttl | 02:54 |
| wanghao | so, if we defined the ttl is unchanged value, we just can use ttl now. | 02:55 |
| yangzhenyu | This is also possible | 02:55 |
| wanghao | and we add a new metadata, if a message be claimed and will expires soon, we add some time to it. | 02:56 |
| wanghao | tell the user, "your message's ttl is expired, but we allow it to live a little more" | 02:56 |
| yangzhenyu | However, it may affect the message get because the claim status has not yet ended and the theory cannot delete the message. | 02:56 |
| yangzhenyu | ok | 02:57 |
| yangzhenyu | I got it | 02:57 |
| yangzhenyu | But I can't remember if the msg get will be affected. | 02:57 |
| yangzhenyu | When the msg claimed, and expires soon, The message should be accessible. | 02:59 |
| wanghao | en we can discuss it in zaqar channel | 03:00 |
| yangzhenyu | ok | 03:00 |
| wanghao | time is up now. | 03:00 |
| wanghao | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 03:00:35 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2018/zaqar.2018-03-20-02.00.html | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2018/zaqar.2018-03-20-02.00.txt | 03:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2018/zaqar.2018-03-20-02.00.log.html | 03:00 |
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| raildo | #startmeeting oslo-config-plaintext-secrets | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 15:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raildo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo-config-plaintext-secrets)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo_config_plaintext_secrets' | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| raildo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-config-plaintext-secrets | 15:00 |
| raildo | #chair dhellmann | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dhellmann raildo | 15:00 |
| raildo | hey dhellmann :) | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | hi, raildo! | 15:01 |
| raildo | dhellmann, we changed our meeting time due a conflict with the new keystone meeting time | 15:02 |
| raildo | dhellmann, this time is good for you? | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | the wifi here is a bit laggy | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | yes, this should be ok | 15:03 |
| raildo | ok, that's fine | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | how about everyone else? | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | I don't see spilla online | 15:04 |
| raildo | spilla was the guy who suggested this time slot, I pinged him to see if he will be able to join us | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:04 |
| raildo | looks like he is online, but not on this channel | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | ah | 15:05 |
| raildo | but I believe that we can start and he can catch up later | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | sure | 15:06 |
| raildo | #topic status check | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status check (Meeting topic: oslo-config-plaintext-secrets)" | 15:06 | |
| dhellmann | I put together an incomplete example patch for how I thought the config_source option should work | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/554316 | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | that takes advantage of the existing parser by registering the option as a regular option | 15:07 |
| raildo | yeah, I saw that, thanks for doing that work, I hope to review it int he next days | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | it's incomplete because we can't actually do anything with a given set of options for a source until we have some drivers | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | the spec lays out several other steps that have to come before this one | 15:07 |
| raildo | dhellmann, so, are you saying that we should implement the castellan driver, before have that merged? | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | I don't know if spilla started in the middle of the list because he wanted to experiment with some stuff that wasn't clear or what | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | no, the spec describes a "http" driver that we can have in-tree | 15:08 |
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| dhellmann | hang on... | 15:09 |
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| raildo | ok, got it. so let's set an action item to sync this with spilla | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/queens/oslo-config-drivers.html#work-items | 15:09 |
| raildo | gagehugo, hey gagehugo we are talking about the alternative approach that dhellmann proposed here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554316/1 | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | this patch is the 5th item on that list | 15:09 |
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| raildo | gagehugo, do you have any idea where are spilla? :D I pinged him but I got no responses | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | yeah let me yell at him | 15:10 |
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| raildo | spilla, hey \o | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | he's sitting across from me :) | 15:10 |
| spilla | o/ | 15:10 |
| spilla | i thought it auto joined this channel, oops | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | raildo yeah I saw that yesterday, will take a look | 15:11 |
| raildo | spilla, did you had a chance to check the dhellmann's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554316/1 | 15:11 |
| spilla | ^ also looking at that, was going to setup a meeting with him to go through it and work on it | 15:12 |
| raildo | spilla, I mean, looks like we still need to define a new driver for loading configuration from simple URLs to be used as a test case, before using it | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm happy to set up a hangout or whatever to go through things | 15:12 |
| raildo | that would be great :) | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | right, the spec lays out steps and although they aren't numbered they are in order | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | with the idea that each can build on the work done in the previous step | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | this was one of the trickier parts to get right, but we won't actually want to land the patch until some of the other stuff is in place | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | we can set it up as a series of patches so that other reviewers can understand how the parts interact | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:14 |
| spilla | ++ | 15:14 |
| raildo | dhellmann, ++ imo, that would be the best approach for that, having a dependecy between patches to keep that in order to be merged | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | in other projects we might use a feature branch for the work, but openstack doesn't really use feature branches | 15:14 |
| spilla | raildo agreed, just have to make sure dependencies don't get all over the place | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | raildo : exactly | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | if we keep it as a series it should work out ok | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | someone can start with that first item and when we get to the bit I did we can rebase onto the others | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | and finish it, of course, since it's incomplete | 15:15 |
| raildo | spilla, I remember that you said that someone was going to start the base class for a configuration driver, is that still valid? | 15:16 |
| spilla | yes, they got pulled back into project-tags for keystone. I will check with him to see if he is available | 15:17 |
| raildo | should we create an action item for someone here for this specific task? | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | it would be good to know who is going to work on each part | 15:18 |
| raildo | dhellmann, agreed | 15:18 |
| raildo | I was planning to work more in the castellan driver and custodia-castellan stuff, but I can stop for a while and get some tasks on this first tasks | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | I added a section to the top of the etherpad | 15:19 |
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| raildo | spilla, can you go here and add your name in the specific tasks that you're covering with your patch: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-config-plaintext-secrets | 15:20 |
| spilla | yep, also i can put mine on hold for any earlier tasks | 15:21 |
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| raildo | spilla, let's set a deadline for like next meeting? so you can confirm of they will be able to help us on this first task or someone can put their name in this first task, at least? | 15:25 |
| spilla | ok, I am good to switch gears to it asap. ill see what nhelgesen's availability is like | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | I know you all have other things to do, so what sort of availability do all of you have for working on this? | 15:26 |
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| raildo | dhellmann, for the next two/three weeks I'll be busy with a bunch of downstream stuff, but after that, I hope to be almost full time on this feature | 15:27 |
| spilla | also my i believe dhellmann's patch is a reimplementation of mine (fixed in etherpad) | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | spilla : yes, that's right | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | raildo : ok | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | what's the timeline looking like? is our goal still the first milestone? | 15:28 |
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| gagehugo | I do not have much availability unfortunately right now | 15:29 |
| spilla | i should be available to work on this most of my time for the next few weeks | 15:29 |
| raildo | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 15:29 |
| spilla | im double checking on that | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | spilla : ok, good. I will try to keep time open to review and work with you on details | 15:29 |
| raildo | we have a bit more that 1 month for rocky-1 | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | yes, that's not a lot of time | 15:30 |
| raildo | so, that start to become a bit trick | 15:30 |
| spilla | yeah, maybe rocky-2 instead | 15:30 |
| raildo | dhellmann, spilla let's try to define at least some of this tasks for rocky-1? | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | my concern if we slip things too late in the schedule is that it's changing things at such a low level | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | so yeah, let's see how far we can get by the first milestone | 15:31 |
| raildo | I believe that we can finish at least a few work items from this list (two or three) for rock-1 | 15:32 |
| raildo | and then we can measure our effort to finish it for rocky-2 | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:32 |
| spilla | ++ | 15:32 |
| raildo | since we have a bunch of that done in the item 5 | 15:33 |
| raildo | dhellmann, spilla I believe that's it for today, let's focus to get this first items done ASAP :) | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | sounds good, I'll watch for patches to review :-) | 15:36 |
| raildo | dhellmann, sounds great | 15:36 |
| spilla | Let's get this done! :D | 15:37 |
| raildo | have a good week everyone | 15:37 |
| raildo | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
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