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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 21 14:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | hi | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F21.2F2018 | 14:00 |
| Yumeng__ | hi | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: hi | 14:01 |
| suzhengwei | hi | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: hi | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | let's wait for additional 5 minutes? | 14:02 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:02 |
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| Yumeng__ | No pb | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei, Yumeng__ how are you? | 14:02 |
| Yumeng__ | good | 14:02 |
| suzhengwei | fine | 14:03 |
| Yumeng__ | BTW did you get feedback from aditi? | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: nope, I propose you to send a confirmation mail to Anne (and cc Kendall). We will add Aditi later if she would like to | 14:04 |
| Yumeng__ | Ok then I will confirm after meeting | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: thanks | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | well, let's begin | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:05 | |
| alexchadin | watcher-tempest-plugin has been stabilised and will be turned into zuulv3 job soon. | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | say welcome back to our tempest tests! :) | 14:06 |
| suzhengwei | good news | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | Watcher will have functional job for each strategy once zuulv3 patch is merged #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551790/ | 14:07 |
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| alexchadin | I'm trying to fix it, hope to end up with it soon | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | OpenStack-wide goals should be represented as bugs cause they are clear and have redundant description #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/#release-cycles | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | I'll register them | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin register openstack-wide goals as bugs | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | #action Review Action Items | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | #redo | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 14:11 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action Review Action Items | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:11 | |
| alexchadin | Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | sync datamodel before audit execution has been registered #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/sync-datamodel-before-audit-execution | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | well, I'm not sure that we need additional way to sync DEs | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | I have a patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551963/ and it adds DEs into one pool, that is connected to versioned notification topic of nova | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | you may try this patch in your own env, it makes broadcast notifications | 14:14 |
| suzhengwei | sync datamodel before audit execution will bring more pressure to Nova APIs. | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: yes | 14:15 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: unfortunately, licanwei isn't here so we can't discuss it right now | 14:15 |
| Yumeng__ | sync datamodel could be useful for watcher HA. | 14:16 |
| suzhengwei | I think this is about desion-engine ha problem. | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: yes and we can achieve it by listening to notifications | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: we can broadcast notifications from Nova to DEs using this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551963/ | 14:17 |
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| alexchadin | so any discussions here or we can continue? | 14:18 |
| Yumeng__ | Pls continue, maybe we can discuss more tomorrow in our channel | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | ok | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:20 |
| suzhengwei | cycle sync and notifications seems reliable to me | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | Add team priorities for Rocky should be reviewed by Yumeng Bao #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551914/ | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: +1 | 14:20 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: your final vote is required here :) | 14:20 |
| Yumeng__ | Ops | 14:21 |
| Yumeng__ | I will vote | 14:21 |
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| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551914/ | 14:23 |
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| alexchadin | Support Watcher HA active-active Mode needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549706/ | 14:23 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: please take a look at this spec and especially comments | 14:24 |
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| suzhengwei | I review it yestoday. I think it is not a complete solution. | 14:25 |
| Yumeng__ | Yeah I have reviewed this afternoon and see your comments Note 3 | 14:25 |
| suzhengwei | It need more discuss. | 14:26 |
| Yumeng__ | Yeah agree | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: of course, more problems should be represented there | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | Add the start and end time for CONTINUOUS audit needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551058/ | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: would you like to review it? | 14:27 |
| suzhengwei | yes. | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | thanks | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | #action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551058/ | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | Exclude Project By Audit Scope needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546960/ | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__, suzhengwei would you like to review it? | 14:29 |
| suzhengwei | I will | 14:29 |
| Yumeng__ | Ok | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546960/ | 14:32 |
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| alexchadin | Add replace cold migration to usenova API spec needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551851/ | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | I've already reviewed it | 14:33 |
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| suzhengwei | interested of it. add me | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | #action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551851/ | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | Enhance Watcher workflow Engine needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551861/ | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | I will take it | 14:35 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551861/ | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | add strategy host_maintenance should be updated to fix jobs issues #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/ | 14:35 |
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| suzhengwei | I will | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: thanks | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | filter exclude instances during migration needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508108/ | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I will review it with new functional tests | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: just to make sure that it works fine | 14:36 |
| suzhengwei | thx | 14:37 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher Bug Fixes | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | create audit failed needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530105/ | 14:37 |
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| alexchadin | watcher docs should be updated. as we have discussed during the PTG, documentation regarding strategies should be updated #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1757423 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757423 in watcher "watcher docs should be updated" [Undecided,New] | 14:39 |
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| alexchadin | Fix sort of *list command output needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552534/ | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: will you take it? | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: what about you? | 14:42 |
| Yumeng__ | alexchadin: add me | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552534/ | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | well, seems that's all | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | is there anything you'd like to discuss? | 14:44 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:44 |
| suzhengwei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/unfriendly-table-of-apscheduler-jobs | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: this table isn't for users, only for developers | 14:46 |
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| suzhengwei | Do you think it is intuitive to developers? It takes me many days to study apscheduler | 14:48 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: you may register it as a bug and we will find out what can be done here | 14:49 |
| suzhengwei | so I think there may be improvement about this | 14:49 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | thanks | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | thank you for attending! | 14:50 |
| alexchadin | bye! | 14:50 |
| suzhengwei | bye | 14:50 |
| Yumeng__ | bye | 14:50 |
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| alexchadin | #endmeeting watcher | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 14:50:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-21-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-21-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-21-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 21 15:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hello | 15:01 |
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| cbellucci | hi | 15:01 |
| sc | howdy | 15:01 |
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| witek | how is weather in Ireland? :) | 15:01 |
| sc | dry | 15:01 |
| amofakhar | hello | 15:01 |
| jgr | Hello | 15:02 |
| jgr | Dry weather in Ireland? That's a first :-) | 15:02 |
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| witek | we have few topics topics today | 15:02 |
| sc | dry = it's not raining right now | 15:02 |
| witek | feel free to add if you have some | 15:03 |
| jgu_ | hello | 15:03 |
| witek | #topic Vancouver Forum | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver Forum (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| witek | the brainstorming phase for Vancouver Forum is open | 15:03 |
| witek | the topics for discussion sessions can be proposed | 15:04 |
| witek | Forum are 40-mins. session slots with open discussions | 15:04 |
| witek | the goal is to get feedback from operators, users, developers | 15:05 |
| witek | or agree on future work | 15:05 |
| witek | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 15:05 |
| witek | here more info | 15:05 |
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| witek | deadline for topic submissions is Apr 2 | 15:06 |
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| witek | e.g. there is already etherpad for self-healing SIG | 15:06 |
| witek | which could be interesting | 15:06 |
| sc | let me see if I understood: a small PTG with users | 15:06 |
| sc | witek: we have to join them for sure | 15:07 |
| witek | it's held together with the Summit | 15:07 |
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| witek | yes, it's somehow like PTG, with more focus on feedback I would say | 15:08 |
| amofakhar | is there any possibility it changes some rocky priorities? | 15:08 |
| jgu_ | 40 minutes daily? | 15:09 |
| witek | the output could rather influence next release prios | 15:09 |
| amofakhar | ok | 15:09 |
| witek | jgu_: the sessions are organised to 40-mins. slots | 15:09 |
| witek | everyday through the complete Summit | 15:10 |
| sc | who is likely to be in Vancouver? If IIRC we don't have any presentation next summit | 15:11 |
| witek | we'll have Project Update and Project Onboarding | 15:12 |
| witek | waiting for volunteers to help on these | 15:12 |
| sc | OK. What I meant is that if we commit to organized the forum we need to have someone always present | 15:12 |
| witek | yes, when proposing the topic normally you should moderate the discussion | 15:13 |
| sc | I could volunteer but I have to see if I can travel, budget, approvals... all the big company stuff | 15:13 |
| witek | yes, please check | 15:14 |
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| witek | do you know, who else will attend the Vancouver Summit? | 15:15 |
| sc | Added to my todo list, I have to wait till Monday as my boss is off this week | 15:16 |
| sc | the home boss granted approval | 15:16 |
| amofakhar | we are waiting for approvals | 15:16 |
| cbellucci | I am also in the approval phase | 15:16 |
| dougsz | I think it's unlikely I'll be able to make it. I should be able to dial in to relevant sessions. | 15:16 |
| witek | I think the sessions are not even recorded | 15:17 |
| dougsz | ah | 15:17 |
| witek | just etherpad notes | 15:18 |
| witek | in most cases | 15:18 |
| witek | should we move on? | 15:18 |
| sc | yes. | 15:19 |
| witek | #topic reviews | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:19 | |
| witek | sc: your stage | 15:19 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554304/ | 15:19 |
| sc | I tested this in devstack and systemd works from the agent. I have to check some interaction with notification | 15:19 |
| witek | notification? | 15:20 |
| sc | from devstack log | 15:20 |
| sc | I see something when the notification starts | 15:20 |
| witek | ok | 15:21 |
| sc | like a check of services, I'm thinking about something wrong in the devstack/plugin | 15:21 |
| witek | so, you basically rework monasca_setup | 15:21 |
| sc | yes | 15:21 |
| witek | and split to separate 3 services | 15:21 |
| sc | yes and one target to manage them all | 15:22 |
| sc | monasca_agent now is target that spawn and manage the 3 services | 15:22 |
| witek | I guess we'll need some update in documentation as well | 15:22 |
| sc | good suggestion witek | 15:23 |
| witek | can you do it, or should we split the tasks? | 15:23 |
| sc | I prefer to add a new task | 15:23 |
| witek | fine | 15:23 |
| sc | but I'm going to do | 15:23 |
| witek | you've been asking about SysV support | 15:24 |
| sc | the big reason this is marked as WIP is that in monasca_setup we have code to manager sysv systems | 15:24 |
| sc | could we get rid of this | 15:24 |
| witek | :) | 15:24 |
| sc | ? | 15:24 |
| witek | I think originally monasca_setup supported only SysV | 15:24 |
| sc | I mean this is unused code and I don't like leaving code around | 15:24 |
| witek | then systemd was added | 15:25 |
| witek | does anyone still need support for SysV? | 15:25 |
| sc | do you know of any distro supported by OpenStack that is not running systemd | 15:25 |
| witek | no | 15:25 |
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| witek | any opinions? | 15:26 |
| witek | I think we can remove this code | 15:27 |
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| sc | good, I'm doing ASAP and unlock the review | 15:28 |
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| sc | next topic... | 15:28 |
| witek | great, thanks | 15:28 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546956/ | 15:28 |
| witek | amofakhar: is asking for reviews | 15:28 |
| amofakhar | oslo.policy in monasca-api | 15:28 |
| amofakhar | yes | 15:29 |
| witek | I'll have a look myself in next days | 15:29 |
| amofakhar | good thanks | 15:29 |
| witek | but would be nice to have someone else as well | 15:29 |
| amofakhar | I think sc added himself last week | 15:29 |
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| witek | amofakhar: anything else on this? | 15:30 |
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| amofakhar | no thats all | 15:30 |
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| sc | I took a look then I got interupted by something. I'll complete tonight | 15:30 |
| amofakhar | thanks | 15:30 |
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| sc | amofakhar: ping me on monasca channel if tomorrow you don't have any news from myself | 15:31 |
| witek | sc: night is for something else than looking at code ;) | 15:31 |
| sc | relaxing before going to sleep | 15:31 |
| witek | #topic Rocky prios | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky prios (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:31 | |
| cbellucci | your position is getting worse | 15:31 |
| witek | the prio page has been merged | 15:32 |
| witek | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/monasca-specs/priorities/rocky-priorities.html | 15:32 |
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| witek | it would be great if owners could add short descriptions | 15:32 |
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| witek | could be one sentence with reference to story or spec | 15:33 |
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| witek | I have also looked at how we can track progress on prios with StoryBoard | 15:34 |
| witek | and haven't found a reasonable way to make it automatically | 15:34 |
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| witek | I don't want to track all the tasks from StoryBoard, just the prios | 15:34 |
| witek | so some kind of tagging would be needed to filter the tasks | 15:35 |
| witek | but tags can only be added to stories | 15:35 |
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| witek | which are not granular enough | 15:35 |
| sc | I cannot help | 15:36 |
| witek | so I would like to continue to use the board in current shape | 15:36 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/60 | 15:36 |
| witek | and drag the tasks at least every Wednesday | 15:37 |
| witek | that way everyone can see which important changes need review | 15:37 |
| witek | or which tasks could be picked up to work on | 15:37 |
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| witek | also if anyone would like to help updating this board, please ping me | 15:38 |
| witek | and I will add the permissions | 15:38 |
| witek | any thoughts? | 15:38 |
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| witek | ok, next topic then | 15:39 |
| witek | #topic rejecting future and past measurements | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rejecting future and past measurements (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:40 | |
| witek | Tim has provided some more information from Craig | 15:40 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001535 | 15:40 |
| witek | thresholding engine is just dropping these measurements | 15:41 |
| witek | and the alarm will stay in UNDETERMINED state | 15:41 |
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| nseyvet_ | that seems OK. | 15:41 |
| nseyvet_ | Basically, it requires an alarm on the fact that no metrics are coming from a specific agent. | 15:42 |
| nseyvet_ | so, there is no reason to discard the metrics at the API level | 15:42 |
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| witek | but the metric would be coming | 15:43 |
| witek | oh, so you mean monitoring thresholding engine, right | 15:44 |
| witek | ? | 15:44 |
| nseyvet_ | yes, but it it would be rejected by the threshold engine during the computation | 15:44 |
| nseyvet_ | yes | 15:44 |
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| nseyvet_ | is it possible to define an alarm in the threshold like "SUM(ALL metrics) == 0 By agent" | 15:46 |
| nseyvet_ | ? | 15:46 |
| witek | don't know, would have to check | 15:46 |
| nseyvet_ | I guess you could pick any metric really, as basically as soon as that metric does not come in anymore, the total couont of events related to that metric would become 0 | 15:46 |
| nseyvet_ | My guess is that the agent is not a dimension? | 15:48 |
| witek | hostname | 15:48 |
| witek | in most cases | 15:48 |
| nseyvet_ | ok, that should work I suppose | 15:48 |
| nseyvet_ | or? | 15:48 |
| witek | I'll think of it, could you also investigate please? | 15:49 |
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| nseyvet_ | yes, I could try to setup a use case | 15:50 |
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| witek | thanks | 15:50 |
| nseyvet_ | np | 15:51 |
| witek | 10 mins. left | 15:51 |
| witek | do we have some other topics? | 15:51 |
| sc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554918/1 | 15:51 |
| sc | I don't understand what is this about? | 15:52 |
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| witek | pypy is supposed to be faster than Python | 15:53 |
| sc | it usually is | 15:53 |
| sc | so why disabling it? | 15:54 |
| witek | as far as I understand, he wants to add this | 15:55 |
| sc | the patchset I see it's the other way around, but I may be completelly wrong | 15:56 |
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| witek | oh, I'm sorry, you're right | 15:56 |
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| amofakhar | yes it is removed | 15:57 |
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| sc | I'll ping this guy | 15:59 |
| witek | ok | 15:59 |
| sc | we have to close | 15:59 |
| witek | thank you all for today | 15:59 |
| sc | see you | 15:59 |
| witek | see you next week | 15:59 |
| amofakhar | see you | 15:59 |
| witek | bye | 15:59 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 15:59:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-21-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-21-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-03-21-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 21 16:01:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
| eglute | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.9 | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:02 | |
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| eglute | Raise your hand if you are here for the interopwg meeting o/ | 16:02 |
| georgk | o/ | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | hi | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | Daylight savings time has moved this meeting for most of us i think | 16:03 |
| eglute | also, just a reminder that for now we will be meeting every other week unless we need to meet more often | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic Creating orchestration.2018.02.json guideline | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Creating orchestration.2018.02.json guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:04 | |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547692/ | 16:05 |
| eglute | looks like i need to update the patch, i will see what Rico refers to | 16:05 |
| luzC_ | o/ | 16:05 |
| * markvoelker makes note to update eavesdrop with the every-other-week meeting thing | 16:05 | |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:06 |
| eglute | if you all have other comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547692/ let me know | 16:06 |
| eglute | #topic flag broken test_update_snapshot_metadata | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "flag broken test_update_snapshot_metadata (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:06 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554359/ | 16:06 |
| eglute | thanks to prometheanfire for submitting this | 16:07 |
| eglute | I am not sure what is going on there, I thought it was straightforwar | 16:07 |
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| eglute | has a -1 from a couple people, so needs updating | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | I think it's actually ok as-is. Dirk requested a couple of more changes for a different set of tests which we can take up in a separate review | 16:08 |
| eglute | ok... so ok to merge as is? | 16:09 |
| eglute | markvoelker please comment on the patch and merge? | 16:09 |
| eglute | unless other comments? | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | I think so, and we can deal with the others separately. They actually already have aliases in place, so with this change I think folks trying to pass can do so. | 16:09 |
| eglute | great thank you markvoelker | 16:10 |
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| eglute | any other comments on this patch? | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | i do | 16:11 |
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| hogepodge | Less on the patch, more on the circumstances behind it (and the last agenda item I added). | 16:11 |
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| eglute | hogepodge do share | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | Just, we need a gate job here and possibly one in tempest to not allow merges that break guidelines. | 16:11 |
| eglute | hogepodge is that the topic that you added? | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | On this side to make sure anything we add actually exists in Tempest, on the Tempest side to prevent anyone from submitting a patch that would break our guideline. Then everyone would be forced to reconcile rather than having a fire drill at a random time. | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | Unless there are objections, I can take that as an action item. | 16:13 |
| eglute | hogepodge ok... what do we need to do to make it happen | 16:13 |
| eglute | hogepodge no objections from me | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | I agree that would be useful. We talked a bit about the mechanics that would allow us to build one in the past (e.g. using a decorator on required tests) but they didn't care for that solution. I suppose we could write a job that just grabs the guidelines and checks changes against that? | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | Write tox jobs for both and add them to the zuul definitions. | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: that's pretty much it, something that grabs the interop repo and builds idempotent_ids and name mappings, then guarantees their existence in Tempest. | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Ah, ok...so you're thinking just something that covers the issue where a couple of tests were combined into a single test? | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | (and the one where a test is deleted) | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | (obviously) | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | Just anything that makes it so a guideline doesn't work. A test is renamed in Tempest and there's no alias in Interop, boom test failure. Test and idempotent_id is removed but not flagged? Boom test failure. | 16:16 |
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| eglute | hogepodge that sounds good to me | 16:17 |
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| hogepodge | we spell a name wrong in next.json? It's caught. | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Makes sense. Ideally it'd be nice to have it somehow flag "hey, you modified a test that's in a guideline so be careful", but I'm not sure anyone reads the logs as long as they get a +1. Problem for another day I suppose. | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | we could have a non-voting job | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Let's do baby steps. =) What you described is easy, so do that first. We can expand later to cover the trickier cases. | 16:18 |
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| hogepodge | Yeah, if the TC wants us to have a tight relationship with Tempest, we should encode it. ;-) | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | I don't want to be embarrassed by guidelines not working either. :-) | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | Anyway, that's all. | 16:19 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | #action hogepodge write test jobs | 16:20 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge i think that will be helpful! | 16:20 |
| eglute | #topic Move next.json to schema 2.0 | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Move next.json to schema 2.0 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:20 | |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker for updating next.json to schema 2.0 | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | Sure. Looks like we still have some gate failures that I need to debug though. | 16:21 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554395/ | 16:21 |
| eglute | yes, thank you | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | The docs job build failure is new...hrm. | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Well anyway, I'll keep plugging at it. If anyone gets there before me (I'm booked up until late today), feel free to leave a comment and let me know what I missed. =) | 16:22 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker. i know going through the schema and updating guidelines is not the easiest thing | 16:23 |
| eglute | though i wonder if we need to check with some tool that the other guidelines match the schame | 16:23 |
| eglute | the schema | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Oddly it should be easy enough, because it's built directly from a document that already made it through the gate. =) Oh well. | 16:23 |
| eglute | hah | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | As for schema checking, that should already be built in...you can just run tox locally. | 16:24 |
| eglute | ah ok | 16:24 |
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| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:25 |
| eglute | the next topic on the gate already covered, correct hogepodge? | 16:25 |
| eglute | #topic Next guideline: 2018.08 | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next guideline: 2018.08 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:25 | |
| hogepodge | eglute: yeah, that was my topic | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | Oh, I wonder if the docs job failure is related to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128594.html perhaps. I'll look into it tonight. | 16:26 |
| eglute | hogepodge do we need to discuss more or we are good there? | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | good there | 16:26 |
| eglute | cool thank you | 16:27 |
| eglute | so, regarding 2018.08 guideline- the board meeting date not set yet, i guess will be during the next PTG. | 16:27 |
| eglute | I dont think PTG location/date have been announced yet, unless you heard differently | 16:28 |
| eglute | as discussed in Dublin, we dont expect many changes to the next guideline | 16:29 |
| eglute | #topic Scoring 2018.08 | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scoring 2018.08 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:29 | |
| eglute | In etherpad we have a list of capabilities to score, any updates to that list? | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Not from me | 16:30 |
| * markvoelker was camping in the Everglades all last week and therefore made zero progress on anything | 16:30 | |
| eglute | cool... markvoelker how were the pythons? | 16:31 |
| eglute | anything else for today then? | 16:31 |
| eglute | any updates on NFV? georgk? | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | No pythons detected (other than in captivity), but saw just about every other sort of critter... | 16:31 |
| georgk | I did a bit of research regarding EPA | 16:31 |
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| eglute | georgk any updates on that? | 16:32 |
| georgk | actually, a nice overview is this one, giving also indications how to test stuff | 16:32 |
| georgk | https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/openstack-epa-feature-breakdown-and-analysis | 16:32 |
| luzC_ | eglute: do you have scoring etherpad link? | 16:32 |
| georgk | still, the tool question remains | 16:32 |
| georgk | and the available capabilities of the OpenStack CI | 16:33 |
| eglute | luzC_ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.9 is the scoring assignment list. if you would like to take any, please do- i dont think anyone would mind :) | 16:33 |
| georgk | in terms of hardware and configuration | 16:33 |
| georgk | so, only a little progress | 16:33 |
| eglute | georgk cool, thank you | 16:33 |
| luzC_ | eglute: ok, I'll take a look | 16:33 |
| eglute | thank you luzC_, always appreciate your help | 16:34 |
| eglute | anything else for today? | 16:34 |
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| eglute | in that case, thanks everyone! See you all in 2 weeks! | 16:35 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 16:35:53 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-03-21-16.01.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-03-21-16.01.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-03-21-16.01.log.html | 16:36 |
| mguiney | have a good week, all | 16:36 |
| georgk | byw | 16:36 |
| georgk | bye | 16:36 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 21 20:01:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:01 |
| vladiskuz | o/ | 20:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:02 |
| e0ne | #topic Notices | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| e0ne | so, there is only one month left until rocky-1 milestone | 20:04 |
| e0ne | # link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/rocky-1 | 20:04 |
| dklyle | o/ | 20:04 |
| e0ne | dklyle: morning:) | 20:05 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:05 |
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| e0ne | I'm glad that we've good good team here | 20:05 |
| e0ne | most of targeted bugs and blueprints are in progress or merged now | 20:05 |
| e0ne | we're in a good shape of releasing rocky-1 | 20:06 |
| e0ne | there are some unassigned high priority bugs | 20:06 |
| e0ne | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.b | 20:06 |
| e0ne | ug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 20:06 |
| e0ne | it would be good to fix them too | 20:07 |
| e0ne | ok, let's go throw our agenda | 20:07 |
| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 20:07 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: thanks for adding topics to the agenda. | 20:07 |
| e0ne | rdopiera, I was going to add xstacit topic too but you're faster:) | 20:08 |
| e0ne | #topic XStatic packaging rights | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "XStatic packaging rights (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:08 | |
| e0ne | link #http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128533.html - here is some background discussion about it | 20:08 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: do you want to add something according this? | 20:09 |
| rdopiera | no, I really don't have an opinion | 20:10 |
| e0ne | ok | 20:10 |
| rdopiera | I think that any solution we find will be good | 20:10 |
| e0ne | so, heat-dashboard team wants to be able to merge patches to some xstatic repos | 20:11 |
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| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128545.html | 20:11 |
| dklyle | I'm confused, but what's new :) | 20:11 |
| e0ne | ^^ now it works :) | 20:12 |
| e0ne | dklyle: we've got new xstatic libs for heat-ui plugin | 20:12 |
| dklyle | why do they need xstatic-core need to be involved with heat specific xstatic packages? | 20:12 |
| rdopiera | dklyle: they basically want gerrit rights for +2 | 20:12 |
| e0ne | I mean heat-dashboard | 20:12 |
| dklyle | what's the structure that is requiring xstatic-core as the approver? | 20:13 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/385,members | 20:13 |
| e0ne | dklyle: nothing I'm familiar with | 20:14 |
| dklyle | e0ne, I understand the group is for our xstatic projects, why don't they have their own group for theirs? | 20:15 |
| dklyle | ultimately I don't really mind the easiest solution, but it seems weird that it is the most obvious option | 20:15 |
| e0ne | dklyle: we'd got this discussion at the PTG | 20:18 |
| e0ne | and agreed to help heat team with their xstatic as they could be useful for other plugins too | 20:19 |
| dklyle | ok, I'll trust that it's been worked through | 20:19 |
| e0ne | so, how to we want to share responsibility with heat team on managing these projects? | 20:22 |
| e0ne | it's about 8 new xstatic repos: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551978/2/gerrit/projects.yaml | 20:22 |
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| rdopiera | I would trust that they won't go around merging things to the packages that they are not responsible for | 20:25 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 20:25 |
| rdopiera | but that may be my natural dislike of access restrictions | 20:25 |
| dklyle | the only concern would be dependencies between the xstatic packages, but I doubt that's much of an issue | 20:25 |
| e0ne | dklyle: good point. IMO, we can find a solution for this if the future if we meet issues with dependencies | 20:29 |
| dklyle | works for me | 20:29 |
| kazsh | hi, afaik the newly added repos don't have any dependencies to existing xstatic repos | 20:30 |
| e0ne | what about "(2) Add specific members to xstatic-core" and see how it's going? | 20:30 |
| e0ne | we can revisit our decision in the future and "Split core membership into per-repo basis" if it's really required | 20:31 |
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| e0ne | kazsh: thanks for the info | 20:32 |
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| kazsh | e0ne: NP:) | 20:32 |
| e0ne | dklyle, rdopiera, ying_zuo : ^^ does it work for you? | 20:34 |
| dklyle | yes | 20:35 |
| e0ne | I suppose we've got agreement on this | 20:37 |
| e0ne | I'll talk with kazsh and Rico to discuss who will be added to xstatic-core team from the heat-dashboard side | 20:38 |
| e0ne | #action discuss xstatic permissions with heat team and send a result to the openstack-dev@ thread | 20:39 |
| e0ne | I hope, it works for everyone | 20:39 |
| kazsh | e0ne: thx mate, let's keep talking in the thread. | 20:40 |
| e0ne | #topic Microsoft Edge support | 20:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Microsoft Edge support (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:41 | |
| e0ne | rdopiera: do you want to add something? | 20:41 |
| e0ne | I didn't find our previous discussion about MS browsers | 20:42 |
| e0ne | afair, we didn't get volunteers to fix isses in IE11 and Edge | 20:43 |
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| e0ne | does anybody have something to add about this topic? | 20:45 |
| e0ne | ok, let's move forward | 20:47 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: please, add this topic to the next agenda again if you want to discuss it | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: sorry | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | there was no previous discussion | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | I just had some people ask me about the support | 20:47 |
| rdopiera | so I thought I will start this | 20:47 |
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| e0ne | I remember some conversation with Rob in the past when I tried to fix some bugs | 20:48 |
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| e0ne | from my point of view, I'm ok to merge fixes for IE/Edge | 20:49 |
| e0ne | I even could find env to test them if needed | 20:49 |
| rdopiera | same here | 20:49 |
| rdopiera | but no angular/edge experience to actually propose patches | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | I can test them | 20:50 |
| e0ne | we just said that 'horizon doesn't work with IE" to our customers | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | I suppose pretty much everybody are in that situation | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | it does work with IE, just not Edge | 20:50 |
| e0ne | sorry, I mean IE/Edge | 20:50 |
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| rdopiera | so basically, if anyone wants it to work, they have to bring fixes themselves | 20:51 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 20:51 |
| dklyle | or at the minimum point out what doesn't work | 20:52 |
| e0ne | from our side, it would be good to keep https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/doc/source/user/browser_support.rst up to date | 20:52 |
| e0ne | dklyle: +1 | 20:52 |
| e0ne | #action e0ne to update to propose patch with update for https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/doc/source/user/browser_support.rst | 20:53 |
| e0ne | we can continue discuss it in the gerrit once I'll propose a patch | 20:55 |
| e0ne | I'll to it later this week | 20:55 |
| rdopiera | thanks! | 20:55 |
| e0ne | np | 20:55 |
| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 20:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:55 | |
| e0ne | one item for me | 20:55 |
| e0ne | please, vote for meeting time http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128615.html if you want to change it | 20:56 |
| e0ne | we discussed it at the PTG | 20:56 |
| e0ne | for note: I'm not going to change meeting time until we'll get agreement on it' | 20:57 |
| e0ne | that's all from my side | 20:57 |
| e0ne | we still have ~2 mins left for the meeting | 20:58 |
| e0ne | thanks everyone who joined meeting! see you next week | 20:59 |
| vladiskuz | have a good one! | 20:59 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 20:59:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-03-21-20.01.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-03-21-20.01.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-03-21-20.01.log.html | 20:59 |
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