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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 15:00:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone! | 15:01 |
| dougsz_ | hello all and welcome back witek | 15:01 |
| witek | :) nice to see you too | 15:01 |
| joadavis | :) | 15:01 |
| witek | thanks for holding the meetings and taking charge of pyhton3-first changes | 15:02 |
| witek | is there anything we should follow up on? | 15:03 |
| witek | I admit I haven't went through the meeting logs yet :( | 15:03 |
| dougsz_ | I think Dobroslaw took care of most of it | 15:03 |
| witek | yes, he made good job | 15:04 |
| dougsz_ | yep | 15:04 |
| witek | agenda for today: | 15:04 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:05 |
| witek | please add topics if needed | 15:05 |
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| witek | #topic PTG preparation | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG preparation (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:05 | |
| witek | the etherpad with topics for the PTG is here: | 15:05 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-ptg-stein | 15:06 |
| witek | please add your attendance and topics you would like to discuss | 15:06 |
| witek | the room is reserved for the whole day, but I would like to schedule most of the discussions in the morning | 15:07 |
| witek | so that it doesn't get too late for the guys in Europe | 15:07 |
| dougsz_ | :-D | 15:08 |
| witek | you may also want to put your time preference next to the topic, so that we can schedule topics to fit the needs | 15:09 |
| witek | `retention policy management` was originally added by James, but I guess it's orphaned now | 15:10 |
| joadavis | I'll bug him about it, and may be able to pick up the discussion | 15:11 |
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| witek | I guess he's got parallel session for Airship | 15:11 |
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| witek | `Support Pre Upgrade Checks` has been added recently as the OpenStack wide goal | 15:13 |
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| witek | we should check if that can be useful for us | 15:14 |
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| joadavis | you mean https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/upgrade-checkers.html ? | 15:15 |
| witek | correct | 15:15 |
| witek | dougsz_: would you like to give an update on Kolla deployment or even show something? | 15:17 |
| dougsz_ | witek: Sounds good | 15:17 |
| witek | great | 15:17 |
| dougsz_ | Didn't quite hit the rocky goal, but I can demo it working | 15:18 |
| witek | yes, demo would be cool | 15:19 |
| dougsz_ | Also, what's the state in OSA? Maybe kaiokmo has something to share? | 15:19 |
| witek | I'll ping them | 15:20 |
| dougsz_ | cool, thanks, I haven't really kept up with what's going on in OSA | 15:20 |
| witek | I'll try to propose a tentative schedule before weekend, but we are free to reorganize it later | 15:22 |
| witek | koji_n: will you attend as well? | 15:22 |
| witek | apparently not there, let's move on | 15:24 |
| witek | or do you have anything else? | 15:24 |
| witek | #topic monasca-events-api release | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca-events-api release (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:24 | |
| koji_n | unfortunatelly, no | 15:25 |
| witek | koji_n: :( | 15:25 |
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| witek | when tagging the repos for rocky I've realised we haven't had any release for monasca-events-api yet | 15:26 |
| witek | TC stated that it's quite late to add it to Rocky release at that stage | 15:27 |
| witek | here the review: | 15:27 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/590702 | 15:27 |
| witek | that means we wouldn't have stable branch for this repo in Rocky | 15:28 |
| witek | can we live with that? | 15:28 |
| witek | joadavis: ^^ | 15:28 |
| joadavis | I think so. | 15:30 |
| joadavis | We don't have a production ready complete path yet, so Stein may be the first 'useful' release | 15:30 |
| witek | yes, I guess we could take that approach | 15:31 |
| joadavis | it would be nice to have a stable branch in case we wanted to backport it later, but if it is too difficult we can live with it | 15:31 |
| witek | I think we could still try to convince them, but should do it now | 15:32 |
| joadavis | what do we need to do to convince them? | 15:33 |
| witek | restore the change and provide arguments why it's needed | 15:35 |
| witek | but, taking into account that we have few days to the PTG we could discuss it there | 15:35 |
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| witek | also, we have the `merging APIs` topic from dougsz_ in the agenda | 15:36 |
| witek | which may affect the decission | 15:36 |
| joadavis | That is another approach - if we just merged the apis we would not need a release for mon-events-api | 15:36 |
| dougsz_ | bandwidth is exceeding low for that work at the moment :( | 15:37 |
| witek | but that won't be in Rocky either | 15:37 |
| dougsz_ | nope | 15:37 |
| witek | I suggest to talk about it on Monday | 15:37 |
| dougsz_ | Sounds good | 15:38 |
| joadavis | yes. I"ll ponder this more (backporting a separate mon-events-api might be easier...) | 15:38 |
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| witek | I don't have any more topics for today | 15:39 |
| dougsz_ | ok, thanks witek | 15:40 |
| joadavis | Any reviews needed? I just have a simple https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590058 at the moment | 15:40 |
| witek | didn't have much time to review this week :( | 15:41 |
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| joadavis | no problem :) | 15:41 |
| witek | oh, one thing to mention perhaps | 15:42 |
| witek | but I cannot find the link | 15:43 |
| witek | TC is tracking the health of the projects | 15:43 |
| witek | the goal is to identify potential problems and try to help if needed | 15:43 |
| joadavis | Are you looking for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker ? | 15:44 |
| witek | I've been contacted by TheJulia and zaneb to give the status about Monasca | 15:44 |
| witek | joadavis: thanks | 15:44 |
| witek | Julia and Zane act as the liaisons for Monasca | 15:45 |
| joadavis | (I've been tracking the telemetry status there) | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | Largely we're just trying to assess the help and perception on the health of the project | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | s/help/health/ | 15:45 |
| witek | hi TheJulia | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | also if there are frustrations, issues that the TC may be able to help with | 15:46 |
| TheJulia | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker | 15:46 |
| TheJulia | As an example | 15:46 |
| witek | TheJulia: I hope my email was helpful | 15:47 |
| TheJulia | If I've seen it, likely. I would need to check. It has been a busy week couple weeks preparing for the ptg | 15:47 |
| witek | as I've written, I'd be happy to chat f2f next week | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | Excellent! | 15:48 |
| joadavis | opinion: one thing I wish for in monasca is better visibility to the rest of the community. Don't know if the TC has any ideas for thst | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | So that is a common ask that we're seeing, so I suspect it is something we're going to end up discussing at the PTG | 15:49 |
| joadavis | I could also write an opinionated bit about telemetry and monasca, but I won't clog this meeting with it. :) | 15:50 |
| witek | thanks, TheJulia and joadavis see you on Monday in Denver | 15:52 |
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| TheJulia | joadavis: if you publish a blog post, by all means send me the link :) | 15:52 |
| joadavis | will do :) | 15:53 |
| witek | :) oh no | 15:53 |
| joadavis | I'll let you in on anything I write also, witek, so you can correct my mistakes. :) | 15:53 |
| TheJulia | :) | 15:54 |
| witek | ok, let's wrap it up, I think it goes in a wrong direction :) | 15:55 |
| witek | thank you everyone, bye bye | 15:55 |
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| joadavis | see you | 15:56 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 15:56:14 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-05-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-05-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-05-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 16:01:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| eglute | Hello! | 16:01 |
| eglute | #agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.18 | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:02 | |
| hogepodge | hi! | 16:02 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | ok, ptg next week! | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropRefstackPTGDenver_2018 PTG Scheduling | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | Please use that etherpad to let us know if you're attending, and to propose topics. | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker and I will be there, but sadly eglute | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | will not | 16:04 |
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| hogepodge | do we have anyone else here for the interop wg meeting? | 16:04 |
| eglute | I think Mark is having issues with IRC | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | ah | 16:05 |
| eglute | I wonder if others do as well do to the changes | 16:05 |
| hogepodge | It's sad that everything had to become more restrictive, but the spam was way out of hand. Tragedy of the commons. | 16:05 |
| eglute | yes, very true | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | Well, if we don't have much of a quorum, should we continue the meeting? | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | Any pressing things we need to chat about? | 16:07 |
| eglute | probably not... just setting agenda for PTG? | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | There was this patch, wasn't sure if it was ready to go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585772/ | 16:08 |
| eglute | i think I might be able to participate remotely if you can get zoom going. I do have a zoom account that can be used | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | I'm wondering if for the PTG we can focus on getting the next guideline in shape, workshop it inperson. | 16:08 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think it just needed the removed to be removed i think | 16:09 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I'll remember to pack my tripod and conference phone. | 16:09 |
| eglute | hogepodge yeah that makes sense too | 16:09 |
| eglute | hogepodge that would be great | 16:09 |
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| hogepodge | My Monday and Tuesday are massively over-scheduled, I have several overlapping projects to attend to over both days. | 16:09 |
| eglute | right now it looks like i should be able to participate, but currently in the middle of some work things that could interfere with that last minute | 16:10 |
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| hogepodge | ok, well, I'll work on setting up the schedule in advance of next week | 16:10 |
| eglute | great, thank you Chris | 16:10 |
| * markvoelker arrives late after some IRC client issues with identification | 16:10 | |
| eglute | Hello Mark! | 16:11 |
| eglute | looks like it is just the 3 of us here | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: did you say "my voice is my passport, verify me"? | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | Perhaps it's not just me that has a bonkers schedule for the past couple of weeks? =p | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I was offended not to be recognized immediately by the machinantions that run the interwebz. =p | 16:12 |
| eglute | crazy here. so much for having a slow summer :( Also, my house decided it was a good time to fall apart | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | The current debate for me is whether I get to come home after PTG or go straight from Colorado to another business trip... | 16:13 |
| eglute | :( | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Anywho....sorry to interupt. Where were we? | 16:13 |
| eglute | PTG schedule and whether continue with the meeting today | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | just chatting a bit about PTG and scheduling work for it | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | Ok. I was out all last week at (an unexpectedly busy) VMworld so don't have much progress to report. Looks like we do have a small handful of folks coming to Denver, mostly on the Refstack side of the house? | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | also thought this was an easy review for us to finish up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585772/ | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | Yeah, pretty much. I figured we could spend some time just finishing up the next guideline while we were in person. | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: Yep, makes sense. | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | So on that review I think the only question was whether to remove the removed list? =) | 16:16 |
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| eglute | yes | 16:17 |
| * garloff has won his fight with NickServ finally -- sorry for my being late! | 16:17 | |
| * eglute congratulates garloff | 16:17 | |
| eglute | Hello Kurt! Yes, the IRC is getting more restrictive | 16:18 |
| garloff | eglute: Thanks, Egle. Yeah, I had noticed this some time ago already, but apparently misremembered my pwd | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | I don't think we've actually got a written policy on this, but it looks like we've removed them in the past. Let me throw in a change to remove them real quick (unless anyone objects)? | 16:20 |
| * markvoelker hears no objections | 16:22 | |
| markvoelker | Ah, needs rebasing too. One moment. | 16:22 |
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| hogepodge | I need to work with clarkb on getting a zuul job set up for tempest cross project testing too, hopefully will be done before the ptg | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | Ok, patchset 3 is up | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | then will work with tempest team to get it into their gate | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | garloff: markvoelker: the ptg etherpad is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropRefstackPTGDenver_2018 | 16:25 |
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| garloff | hogepodge: thx! | 16:26 |
| garloff | markvoelker: +1 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585772/ | 16:26 |
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| eglute | thanks markvoelker looks good | 16:29 |
| eglute | should we review the rest of the agenda, or save it for the PTG? | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | Personally I don't have much in the way of updates since I was out at VMworld all last week talking OpenStack, so I'd be fine with waiting until next week | 16:31 |
| eglute | ok, sounds good to me | 16:31 |
| eglute | in that case, i will end the meeting early | 16:32 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 16:32 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 16:32:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-09-05-16.01.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-09-05-16.01.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-09-05-16.01.log.html | 16:32 |
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