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tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 14:01:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:01 |
tellesnobrega | tosky? | 14:01 |
tosky | o/ | 14:01 |
tosky | :D | 14:01 |
tellesnobrega | :) | 14:01 |
tellesnobrega | jeremy is not showing up today | 14:01 |
tellesnobrega | so I believe it will be just the two of us | 14:01 |
tellesnobrega | lets see if zchkun joins as well | 14:02 |
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tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:04 | |
zchkun | o/ | 14:05 |
tosky | I'm still fighting with the s3 support for scenario tests in sahara-tests, but I'm slowly progressing (pushed an updated testing patch) | 14:05 |
tellesnobrega | I'm still working on plugins split, it is close to an end, hopefully patch coming soon | 14:05 |
tosky | I'm also trying to debug (since the PTG) the failure of the image building jobs, which seems to go away if we use curl instead of wget | 14:05 |
tosky | and I sent out the hopefully final version of the documentation patch which restructures the image building sections | 14:06 |
tellesnobrega | tosky, I will review | 14:06 |
tosky | it's huuuuge | 14:06 |
tosky | if anyone else (especially the new people around in the channel) would like to check it, I'd be more than happy :) | 14:07 |
tellesnobrega | true | 14:08 |
guimaluf | tosky, I'm still using pike... otherwise I would appreciate to help | 14:08 |
tellesnobrega | guimaluf, you can help with reviews for sure | 14:09 |
guimaluf | tellesnobrega, ok :) | 14:09 |
guimaluf | what is the url? | 14:09 |
tosky | guimaluf: https://review.openstack.org/604187 | 14:10 |
tosky | it also touches sahara-image-create | 14:10 |
tellesnobrega | guimaluf, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/sahara | 14:10 |
guimaluf | :thumbsup: | 14:10 |
tellesnobrega | you can check this for all patches related to sahara | 14:10 |
tellesnobrega | let me know if you need some help with gerrit | 14:10 |
tosky | at least sahara.git, then there few other repositories | 14:10 |
tosky | the idea of that doc change is to move the instruction on image building in just one place, while now they are scattered around in plugin documentation | 14:11 |
tosky | (and not all plugins) | 14:11 |
tellesnobrega | yes | 14:11 |
tellesnobrega | #topic #Open Discussion | 14:13 |
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tellesnobrega | I don't have any specific topics for today | 14:14 |
tosky | sooo, we have this fix for unit tests on newer distributions with openssl 1.1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605028/ | 14:14 |
tosky | so far Telles verified it, and RDO people checked it too on Fedora | 14:14 |
tosky | should we wait for Jeremy's second ack? In any case, it would be nice to have it merged before the end of the week | 14:15 |
tosky | or at least soon | 14:15 |
tosky | I can probably trigger at least the experimental multinode scenario job just to be sure | 14:15 |
tellesnobrega | lets do the following, I will ping jeremy for a review | 14:16 |
tellesnobrega | if he doesn't comment before the end of the day I will merge it | 14:16 |
tosky | this is the validation from RDO (see also the comments): https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/16425/ | 14:16 |
tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:17 |
tosky | oh, I got feedback also from the Debian packagers, they already added that patch to the downstream rocky packages | 14:19 |
tellesnobrega | nice | 14:19 |
tosky | talking about patches (nothing else on my side on that one, question for guimaluf | 14:20 |
tosky | it looks like it was you that send the patch to add gentoo support ot sahara-image-elements: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603268/ | 14:20 |
tosky | apart from the small pep8 issue, it would be probably more future-proof to add the support to sahara-image-pack instead | 14:21 |
guimaluf | tosky, yes. but seems like sahara-image-builder is not in use anymore, right/ | 14:21 |
tellesnobrega | guimaluf, we are slowly dropping support to it | 14:21 |
tosky | it's still used for the 3 plugins with no sahara-image-pack support (spark, storm, vanilla), but the plan is to implement the new building support for them too | 14:21 |
tellesnobrega | in favor or sahara-image-pack | 14:21 |
guimaluf | interesting... I've not the opportunity to check and use sahara-image-pack since I'm using pike version | 14:22 |
tosky | do you plan an upgrade soon-ish? :) | 14:22 |
guimaluf | tosky, I also did two inclusions within sahara-image-builder | 14:23 |
guimaluf | I've add an extra-elements option | 14:23 |
guimaluf | and include spark-bench as a new element | 14:23 |
guimaluf | but I didn't submit it since the plan is to migrate to sahara-image-pack | 14:23 |
guimaluf | tosky, not that soon :/ | 14:24 |
tellesnobrega | is your setup a production openstack? | 14:24 |
tosky | if you have improvements that could be added to the spark image (or to the vanilla + spark image), like new services, please create a story on storyboard | 14:25 |
tosky | so we don't forget to add it | 14:25 |
tosky | or at least we know that we should add it | 14:25 |
tosky | one of the question that we always ask ourselves (and discuss during the PTG) is how to find out which additional services are needed by Sahara users | 14:25 |
tellesnobrega | feedback from real users like you is always really welcome and is what drives our direction | 14:26 |
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guimaluf | I thank you for this encouragement | 14:29 |
tellesnobrega | and we thank you for your feedback | 14:29 |
guimaluf | I've two production environments with openstack, and we are beggining with spark... | 14:29 |
guimaluf | so I hope to contribute more closely to sahara project | 14:30 |
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guimaluf | not spark* sahara* | 14:30 |
guimaluf | we still use spark inside vms and manualy configured | 14:30 |
tellesnobrega | sahara will help with that | 14:32 |
tellesnobrega | you can count on us to help out | 14:32 |
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guimaluf | I'm already counting and all your help are very usefull! :) | 14:32 |
tellesnobrega | :D | 14:33 |
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tellesnobrega | I guess we can close for now | 14:34 |
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tellesnobrega | thanks tosky and guimaluf | 14:34 |
tellesnobrega | see you all at sahara channel | 14:34 |
guimaluf | cya! | 14:34 |
tosky | o/ | 14:34 |
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tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:37 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 14:37:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:37 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-09-27-14.01.html | 14:37 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-09-27-14.01.txt | 14:37 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-09-27-14.01.log.html | 14:37 |
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mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 15:00:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
mlavalle | Hi Swami | 15:00 |
tidwellr_ | hi | 15:00 |
mlavalle | hey tidwellr_ | 15:01 |
haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
mlavalle | is it getting cold in Minneapolis yet? | 15:01 |
slaweq | hi | 15:01 |
tidwellr_ | yep, it's kind of depressing :) | 15:01 |
mlavalle | This morning, for the first time I had to wear a sweater to walk my dog in Austin | 15:02 |
Swami | hi | 15:02 |
davidsha | Hi | 15:02 |
tidwellr_ | mlavalle: I see 3 foot snow drifts in my future | 15:02 |
mlavalle | LOL | 15:02 |
mlavalle | ok, let's get started | 15:02 |
mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
mlavalle | First one is a reminder that our next milestone is Stein-1, October 22 - 26 | 15:03 |
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mlavalle | Second announcement is to highlight, for those who might not seen it, that I sent to the ML a summary of the PTG: | 15:04 |
mlavalle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135032.html | 15:04 |
davidsha | Thank you! | 15:05 |
mlavalle | I hope I captured the discussion accurately | 15:05 |
mlavalle | Please ping me or respond to the message if anything needs to be amended | 15:05 |
mlavalle | Finally, we are within 45 days from the Summit in Berlin. I know because my employer allows us to do travelling arrangements once we are inside that window | 15:07 |
mlavalle | so maybe some of you have to start making reservations as well | 15:07 |
mlavalle | Hope to see many of you in Berlin | 15:08 |
mlavalle | Any other announcements? | 15:08 |
mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 15:08 |
mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:08 |
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mlavalle | Swami: please go ahead | 15:09 |
Swami | Sure | 15:09 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1792493 | 15:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1792493 in neutron "DVR and floating IPs broken in latest 7.0.0.0rc1?" [High,Triaged] | 15:09 |
mlavalle | ahh nice that you picked that one up | 15:10 |
mlavalle | I was going to ask about it | 15:10 |
Swami | This bug is not very clear as to what is causing this problem. Either the configuration of the external bridge or something else. | 15:10 |
Swami | mlavalle: do you have the history behind this bug | 15:10 |
mlavalle | no, I was triaging bugs in preparation for this meeting and I just looked at it | 15:10 |
Swami | mlavalle: is it reproduceable | 15:10 |
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mlavalle | I don't know. I am working on another bug right now. This bug would be the next one I try | 15:11 |
Swami | mlavalle: one of the comment in there states about the unique MAC address and I think the bug reporter is confused between the host DVR Mac and the router macs. | 15:11 |
mlavalle | unless someone yanks it forcibly out of my hands, of course | 15:11 |
Swami | Also he had mentioned configuring the provider network with the right bridge might have solved his problems. I will give it a try. | 15:12 |
Swami | I am not sure what he mentioned about teamed vlan interfaces. | 15:12 |
mlavalle | ok, I will assume you are looking at that one then | 15:12 |
Swami | mlavalle: Sure I will test it. | 15:12 |
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Swami | The next one in the list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1794305 | 15:13 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1794305 in neutron "[dvr_no_external][ha] centralized fip show up in the backup snat-namespace on the restore host (restaring or down/up)" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:13 |
Swami | There was patch up for review on this bug. | 15:13 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/605358 | 15:14 |
Swami | Patch needs review. The fix is pretty trivial. | 15:14 |
Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:14 |
mlavalle | does it look good to you? | 15:14 |
mlavalle | I mean the fix | 15:14 |
Swami | mlavalle: yes | 15:15 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793529 | 15:15 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1793529 in neutron "[dvr][ha][dataplane down] router_gateway port binding host goes wrong after the 'master' host down/up" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
Swami | This one needs triaging. | 15:17 |
Swami | It requires a HA setup and 4 node setup to test it. If anyone has a handy HA setup they can test it. | 15:17 |
mlavalle | I have 3 nodes setup, but I can rapidly add a fourth one | 15:18 |
Swami | mlavalle: ok can you check this out. | 15:18 |
mlavalle | right now I have allinone/controller, compute1 and network | 15:18 |
mlavalle | what do I have to add? another compute? | 15:18 |
haleyb | liuyulong has also been good at proposing patches, sometimes before we can even triage | 15:18 |
Swami | mlavalle: you need two network node for HA. | 15:19 |
mlavalle | that I already have, becasue my allinone is also network node | 15:19 |
haleyb | and compute needs to be in mode dvr_no_external | 15:19 |
liuyulong | 3 nodes is enough for this bug. | 15:19 |
Swami | haleyb: yes, I did see I think he is currently extensively testing the dvr_no_external with DVR HA and finding all these issues. | 15:19 |
Swami | liuyulong: there you go. | 15:19 |
haleyb | liuyulong: thanks for all the bugs and fixes | 15:20 |
mlavalle | liuyulong: ack, I'll try to test it | 15:20 |
Swami | liuyulong: So two network node and one compute is all is required? | 15:20 |
liuyulong | bug 1793529 may involve with l2. | 15:20 |
openstack | bug 1793529 in neutron "[dvr][ha][dataplane down] router_gateway port binding host goes wrong after the 'master' host down/up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1793529 | 15:20 |
liuyulong | Swami, yes | 15:20 |
mlavalle | liuyulong: if I get stuck I'll ask you questions in the bug | 15:21 |
Swami | liuyulong: thanks | 15:21 |
liuyulong | Swami, np | 15:21 |
Swami | The next one in the list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1786272 | 15:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1786272 in neutron "Connection between two virtual routers does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:21 |
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liuyulong | mlavalle, OK | 15:21 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/597567 - patch is up for review. | 15:22 |
Swami | haleyb: slaweq: I have a question on this patch. | 15:22 |
haleyb | slaweq has been working on that, i had an update to help deal with a possible race condition | 15:22 |
Swami | I added a comment on what is still remaining in this patch. | 15:22 |
slaweq | I didn't had time today to look into it yet | 15:23 |
slaweq | I also had to remove my dvr env where I was testing it | 15:23 |
mlavalle | and liuyulong left some comments last night.... well afternoon his time ;-) | 15:23 |
Swami | haleyb: Deleting a port with connected routers seems to be complicated. With the existing logic, if we have more than one subnet and more than two routers connected together deleting is an issue. | 15:23 |
Swami | We may have to retain all the router namespaces in the agent for all the connected routers, until the last Service port or VM from the compute related to all these routers is gone. | 15:24 |
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Swami | haleyb: slaweq: what is your opinion on that. | 15:24 |
haleyb | Swami: to avoid a race condition? | 15:25 |
Swami | haleyb: no it is a different topic. | 15:26 |
Swami | haleyb: the current 'get-routers_to_remove' function in the l3_dvrscheduler_db.py has to be refined for the statement that I made above. | 15:26 |
slaweq | TBH I don't know this code as good so I don't know :/ | 15:27 |
Swami | I fixed a part of it, but still when we have multiple subnets and more than two connected routers we may have some problem, were it might delete the router namespace or the connected routers namepace and so the network will be broken. | 15:27 |
haleyb | Swami: yes, that seems ok, i would have to look at the code again | 15:27 |
slaweq | I will need to take a look at the code and check then | 15:27 |
Swami | slaweq: haleyb: I need to spend another day or two to refine that function a bit. | 15:28 |
Swami | slaweq: I will update you on my findings. | 15:28 |
slaweq | Swami: ok, thx a lot | 15:28 |
Swami | slaweq: haleyb: Meanwhile if you can work on the race condition on the agent the liuyulong pointed out that might be ok to me. | 15:28 |
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slaweq | k | 15:28 |
haleyb | Swami: i had a first pass, will look at the comments | 15:29 |
Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:29 |
Swami | Let us move on. | 15:29 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774459 | 15:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] | 15:29 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/601336 | 15:30 |
Swami | mlavalle: haleyb: slaweq: The patch is still work in progress. | 15:30 |
Swami | This is based on the discussion we had at the PTG to send the packet to the ryu controller for processing with GARP. | 15:31 |
mlavalle | yeap | 15:31 |
Swami | I have some code to handle the packet_in handler. | 15:31 |
Swami | mlavalle: I had some questions on my approach, may be if anyone of you can check it out and let me your early comments on it. | 15:31 |
Swami | That would be great. | 15:32 |
mlavalle | are the questions in the patch? | 15:32 |
Swami | Yes. | 15:32 |
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mlavalle | ack. will look at it | 15:32 |
Swami | Is yamamoto here? | 15:32 |
mlavalle | well, he is connected, but he might be asleep | 15:32 |
mlavalle | but chances are that he will be in tomorrow's drivers meeting | 15:33 |
mlavalle | that's at 7am your time | 15:33 |
Swami | mlavalle: ok no problem, since he was the original author of the native openflow controller, I thought he can also add his comment. | 15:33 |
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mlavalle | oh, I'll ask him to look at the pacth tomorrow | 15:33 |
Swami | mlavalle: ok, if I am not there you can update him on this discussion. | 15:33 |
Swami | Ok Let us move on to next. | 15:34 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793527 | 15:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1793527 in neutron "[dvr_no_external][ha][dataplane down]centralized floating IP nat rules not install in every HA node" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:34 |
Swami | there is also a patch for this bug. | 15:34 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/604094 | 15:35 |
Swami | Reviews are ongoing on this patch, so nothing much to discuss. | 15:35 |
Swami | But I might have a question to liuyulong on this patch | 15:35 |
Swami | liuyulong: are you there | 15:35 |
liuyulong | yes | 15:35 |
Swami | So when you update the floatingip nat rules into the SNAT namespace of the HA routers, are you still checking if the floatingip is intended for the centralized for the distributed? | 15:36 |
Swami | that one was not clear to me. | 15:36 |
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liuyulong | Yes, the check is needed, since we can't install policy route rules and iptables rules at same time. | 15:37 |
Swami | liuyulong: Ok I will test it out and give my feedback. | 15:38 |
Swami | liuyulong: thanks | 15:38 |
liuyulong | Swami, np, : ) | 15:38 |
Swami | mlavalle: that's all I had for today. Back to you. | 15:38 |
mlavalle | Thanks | 15:38 |
mlavalle | I have some other bugs | 15:39 |
Swami | mlavalle: sure go ahead | 15:39 |
mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1791989 | 15:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1791989 in neutron "grenade-dvr-multinode job fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:39 |
mlavalle | any updates on this one, slaweq? | 15:39 |
slaweq | mlavalle: still no | 15:40 |
mlavalle | ok, cool | 15:40 |
slaweq | haleyb said on Tuesday that he will add some extra logging there | 15:40 |
slaweq | but I don't know if he test something already | 15:40 |
haleyb | slaweq: yes, i'll get to that, haven't added it yet | 15:40 |
slaweq | ok :) | 15:40 |
mlavalle | thanks for the update :-) | 15:41 |
mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 | 15:41 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 15:41 |
mlavalle | I don't see manjeets around | 15:41 |
mlavalle | I'll ping him later today | 15:41 |
mlavalle | I see slaweq is marking the related tests as unstable | 15:42 |
slaweq | this patch with marking tests as unstable is merged already I think | 15:43 |
mlavalle | yeap | 15:43 |
mlavalle | just making the point | 15:43 |
mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1787919 | 15:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1787919 in neutron "Upgrade router to L3 HA broke IPv6" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:43 |
mlavalle | I am currently working on this one | 15:43 |
mlavalle | I was talking to the submitter in channel while we were in this meeting | 15:43 |
mlavalle | I clarified a few things | 15:44 |
mlavalle | and I'll continue working on it | 15:44 |
mlavalle | The last one I want to bring up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1792901 | 15:44 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1792901 in neutron "subnet pool can not delete prefixes" [Medium,New] | 15:44 |
mlavalle | This is not a bug. It might be a RFE. But before going that router, I would like to ask tidwellr_ if he can leave a comment as to why it is currently this way | 15:45 |
mlavalle | since he is the author of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148698 | 15:46 |
tidwellr_ | I'll take a look, there was a good reason | 15:46 |
mlavalle | and the commit message explicitely mentions "Prefixes cannot be removed from the pool once added" | 15:46 |
tidwellr_ | I don't remember what it was :) | 15:46 |
mlavalle | yeah, I was struggling with it last night. That's why I am asking for help | 15:47 |
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mlavalle | I was hoping to find a comment where the exception is raised | 15:47 |
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mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:48 |
slaweq | I reported one today | 15:48 |
slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1794809 | 15:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1794809 in neutron "Gateway ports are down after reboot of control plane nodes" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:49 |
slaweq | so I want to mention it here :) | 15:49 |
mlavalle | thanks | 15:49 |
mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 15:49 |
mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 15:50 |
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slaweq | it looks that when control plane is e.g. booting up it may happen that L3 agent is already up and tries to bind gateway ports but L2 agent is still down and ports are binding_failed | 15:50 |
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mlavalle | Are there any other topics to discuss today? | 15:50 |
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mlavalle | ok, thanks for atteding! Have a great weekend | 15:51 |
liuyulong | slaweq, IMO, the root cause is similar to bug 1793529. | 15:51 |
openstack | bug 1793529 in neutron "[dvr][ha][dataplane down] router_gateway port binding host goes wrong after the 'master' host down/up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1793529 | 15:51 |
davidsha | Thanks! | 15:52 |
liuyulong | slaweq, I have some clue, if the router host is power on, the gateway port may plug again, then l2 agent may bind it to this host. | 15:53 |
mlavalle | should we mark one of those bugs as duplicate? | 15:53 |
slaweq | liuyulong: I'm not sure, I clearly saw in logs that port was failed to bind and was marked with binding failed and it happens after host was rebooted | 15:53 |
liuyulong | slaweq, if the port is not binding failed, you may see the gateway port binding host is back to this rebooted host. | 15:54 |
liuyulong | mlavalle, I'm not sure, we need to find the root cause first. : ) | 15:56 |
slaweq | but bug which I reported is related to problem when L3 agent is up and L2 is down, port is then binding_failed and gateway is not working fine | 15:56 |
slaweq | liuyulong: I think that in my case I know root cause and I'm not sure if those are duplicates in fact | 15:56 |
mlavalle | ok, let's investigate further and discuss in channel and / or the bugs | 15:56 |
slaweq | but maybe I'm wrong | 15:56 |
mlavalle | let carry on for the time being | 15:56 |
mlavalle | let's not mark anything as duplicate | 15:57 |
liuyulong | OK | 15:57 |
mlavalle | see you next week | 15:57 |
mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 15:57:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-09-27-15.00.html | 15:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-09-27-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-09-27-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
liuyulong | slaweq, I will test your scenario, : ) | 15:57 |
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slaweq | liuyulong: thx :) | 15:59 |
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elmiko | #startmeeting api_sig | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 16:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
cdent | o/ | 16:00 |
elmiko | #chair cdent dtantsur edleafe | 16:00 |
edleafe | dammit you're too fast | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
elmiko | i even typed that one without copy paste | 16:00 |
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edleafe | I was just about to press Enter when I saw you already started things | 16:00 |
elmiko | haha | 16:01 |
elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:01 |
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elmiko | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
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elmiko | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/ | 16:01 |
elmiko | don't think we had any actions last time | 16:01 |
edleafe | I was supposed to write something | 16:01 |
cdent | action was to shut this down | 16:01 |
edleafe | The "fault tolerance" doc | 16:01 |
elmiko | ahh, thank you edleafe | 16:01 |
edleafe | totally didn't do it :( | 16:02 |
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elmiko | happens to the best of us ;) | 16:02 |
edleafe | Well the other unspoken action item was to determine when to hold our office hours | 16:02 |
elmiko | #topic discuss office hours | 16:02 |
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elmiko | so, i think it would make sense to keep this time as one of the hours | 16:02 |
edleafe | I could certainly be present for most weeks | 16:03 |
elmiko | any objection to just moving this meeting time over to -sdks? | 16:03 |
edleafe | Well, not a formal meeting time | 16:03 |
elmiko | right | 16:03 |
elmiko | just the time slot | 16:04 |
edleafe | but we'd have the office hours in -sdks, not here | 16:04 |
elmiko | i think so, that way we can free up the meeting channel | 16:04 |
elmiko | although it's probably not needed | 16:04 |
elmiko | i guess we'll need to update the wiki meeting times, is there also a governance doc we need to update? | 16:05 |
edleafe | dtantsur: you are the lone outlier, timezone-wise | 16:05 |
dtantsur | yeah | 16:05 |
edleafe | when would be a good time for you | 16:05 |
edleafe | ? | 16:05 |
dtantsur | this one is fine, but often conflicts with evening meetups. | 16:05 |
dtantsur | like, now it's 6:05pm | 16:05 |
edleafe | I was thinking maybe your morning would be better for APAC people | 16:05 |
dtantsur | having it within the previous 6 hours would be better | 16:05 |
dtantsur | probably? | 16:06 |
dtantsur | what's the convenient time for, say, China or Japan? | 16:06 |
edleafe | Is Thursday a good day for you? Or is there a better day of the week? | 16:06 |
dtantsur | Thursday is fine | 16:06 |
elmiko | probably early in dtantsur's day would make the most sense to hit apac | 16:07 |
elmiko | also, should we maybe alternate weeks? | 16:07 |
edleafe | China is 6 hours ahead of Europe | 16:07 |
edleafe | elmiko: I don't think so. | 16:07 |
elmiko | i'm really concerned about loading up too much on dtantsur too | 16:07 |
dtantsur | okay, so my 11am is 5pm there | 16:07 |
edleafe | He's tough, he can take it :) | 16:08 |
elmiko | lol | 16:08 |
dtantsur | elmiko: I'm concerned nobody will show up :) | 16:08 |
edleafe | dtantsur: exactly | 16:08 |
dtantsur | also yes, I used to be a PTL, I had to become tough :D | 16:08 |
elmiko | ok ok, i'm just trying to help here | 16:08 |
elmiko | =) | 16:08 |
dtantsur | but I can allocate 11am-12pm on Thu to talk to people if they arrive | 16:08 |
elmiko | dtantsur ++ | 16:08 |
dtantsur | (11am my time aka CET - I rarely show up earlier) | 16:09 |
edleafe | dtantsur: so maybe 10am your time? So it's not too late for Japan/Australia, too? | 16:09 |
edleafe | ah, a late riser | 16:09 |
dtantsur | yeah | 16:09 |
dtantsur | 11am for me should be 6pm for them - not ideal, but better than what we have now for sure :) | 16:10 |
dtantsur | and I think they tend to stay late anyway.. | 16:10 |
elmiko | so, we are talking about 0900-1000UTC and 1600-1700UTC for office hours then, is that accurate? | 16:10 |
elmiko | accounting for dst, of course | 16:10 |
dtantsur | yeah, DST messes up everything :) | 16:11 |
dtantsur | but I guess it's fine | 16:11 |
edleafe | Not with UTC!! | 16:11 |
dtantsur | well, my time has DST, so it will oscillate between 10am and 11am for me | 16:11 |
elmiko | yeah, i just didn't want dtantsur to think we were trying to make him wake up for a 10am ;) | 16:11 |
elmiko | right | 16:12 |
elmiko | 0900UTC == 1100CET | 16:12 |
elmiko | right now | 16:12 |
dtantsur | yep, we're on summer time | 16:12 |
cdent | I think besides announcing the office hours, if we put a "and any other time just ask in #openstack-sdks" we don't have to be super attentive to being around every week | 16:12 |
dtantsur | anyway, it's okay | 16:12 |
elmiko | cdent ++ | 16:12 |
dtantsur | I work for home, so these things are slightly more flexible | 16:12 |
cdent | in fact the whole point of office hours is to avoid forced schedules | 16:12 |
dtantsur | s/for/from/ (though also for ofc) | 16:12 |
elmiko | i'm thinking about what we need to update | 16:14 |
elmiko | is it just these 2: | 16:14 |
elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG | 16:14 |
elmiko | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 16:14 |
elmiko | ? | 16:14 |
edleafe | I'd like to maintain some semi-formal structure | 16:14 |
edleafe | Even if people rarely seek us out | 16:14 |
elmiko | me too edleafe, i think advertising the "official" hours is a good thing | 16:15 |
edleafe | I mean, how many times have we had anyone other than us (and maybe mordred) attend our meetings? | 16:15 |
elmiko | but i also would like to encourage to just ping if they have a question | 16:15 |
elmiko | edleafe ++ | 16:15 |
edleafe | elmiko: Sure, just like they can do now | 16:15 |
elmiko | yeah, good point | 16:16 |
elmiko | any thing else on this topic? | 16:16 |
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edleafe | nope | 16:17 |
elmiko | i can take an action to propose changes for the schedule repo and wiki | 16:17 |
elmiko | #action elmiko update scheduling information about office hours | 16:17 |
elmiko | #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz | 16:18 |
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elmiko | do we need forum space in berlin? | 16:18 |
elmiko | dtantsur are you going to hold a bof session or something? | 16:18 |
mordred | edleafe: how often am I even anywhere? | 16:19 |
edleafe | I filled out the spreadsheet and did not request space | 16:19 |
edleafe | mordred: too often | 16:19 |
elmiko | edleafe: ah, great. thank you | 16:19 |
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elmiko | any other topics folks want to bring up? | 16:20 |
edleafe | Nope | 16:20 |
edleafe | Nothing from the GraphQL folks (shock!) | 16:20 |
elmiko | heh | 16:20 |
cdent | no way | 16:20 |
elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:21 |
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elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z | 16:21 |
cdent | btw, I was going to be bring virtual booze but I virtually forgot | 16:21 |
elmiko | don't think there has been any change here | 16:21 |
elmiko | cdent: it's virtual! you can go back in time and grab some =) | 16:21 |
edleafe | cdent: no worries; I'm already virtually drunk | 16:21 |
elmiko | LOL | 16:21 |
cdent | congrats! | 16:21 |
elmiko | what do we do about guidelines going forward, just work on them as needed? | 16:22 |
edleafe | yeah, sounds about right | 16:22 |
elmiko | k | 16:22 |
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edleafe | If an issue comes up that needs discussion, there's always email | 16:22 |
elmiko | yeah | 16:23 |
edleafe | (and office hours!) | 16:23 |
elmiko | =) | 16:23 |
elmiko | #topic bug review | 16:23 |
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elmiko | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 | 16:23 |
elmiko | same story here, i don't think there is anything new | 16:23 |
elmiko | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:23 |
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elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:23 |
elmiko | i think it's only appropriate that i take the last one | 16:24 |
elmiko | unless someone else wants it =) | 16:24 |
edleafe | Ooh, goody - lots of grammar corrections! | 16:24 |
elmiko | hahaha | 16:24 |
elmiko | are you volunteering then? | 16:24 |
elmiko | XD | 16:24 |
cdent | thanks everyone. I need to dash into town, but will be back on teh internets at the top of the hour | 16:24 |
elmiko | later cdent o/ | 16:25 |
edleafe | ciao | 16:25 |
cdent | it's been real | 16:26 |
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elmiko | well, if edleafe isn't going to fight me for the last newsletter, i suppose we have reached the end of this meeting =) | 16:26 |
elmiko | anybody wanna drop some last words? | 16:26 |
edleafe | The end of *all* meetings | 16:26 |
elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:26 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 16:26:35 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-09-27-16.00.html | 16:26 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-09-27-16.00.txt | 16:26 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-09-27-16.00.log.html | 16:26 |
elmiko | that seems poetic enough ;) | 16:26 |
elmiko | thanks again edleafe and dtantsur, it's been fun getting to see you both on a regular basis =) | 16:27 |
dtantsur | \o/ | 16:27 |
elmiko | once my tears dry up, i'll have a newsletter for edleafe to hack apart | 16:27 |
dtantsur | elmiko: somehow missed your question: I did not plan anything | 16:27 |
elmiko | dtantsur: ack | 16:28 |
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