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| ttx | o/ | 08:00 |
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| mdelavergne | Hi! | 08:00 |
| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 08:00:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 08:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:00 | |
| ttx | Calling all Large Scale SIG meeting participants! | 08:00 |
| amorin | hello! | 08:00 |
| ttx | mdelavergne: how are things? | 08:00 |
| mdelavergne | fine and you ? | 08:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 08:00 |
| ttx | all fine! | 08:00 |
| ttx | Our agenda for today is at: | 08:01 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 08:01 |
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| ttx | Let's wait a minute to give masahito a chance to join | 08:01 |
| ttx | #topic Progress on "Documenting large scale operations" goal | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress on "Documenting large scale operations" goal (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:02 | |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-documentation | 08:02 |
| ttx | We had one TODO left for amorin from last meeting (propose patch against Nova doc) | 08:02 |
| ttx | any progress there? | 08:02 |
| amorin | unfortunately no | 08:03 |
| amorin | I wasnt able to move forward on that topic | 08:03 |
| ttx | it's ok, I'll push it back | 08:03 |
| ttx | #action amorin to propose patch against Nova doc | 08:03 |
| amorin | thanks | 08:03 |
| ttx | anything else on that topic? things we should be doing? help needed? | 08:03 |
| amorin | hum | 08:04 |
| amorin | maybe if some of you are interested in filling the wiki page | 08:04 |
| ttx | belmoreira: I was wondering if CERN could share scrubbed config files, and if that would be interesting | 08:04 |
| amorin | this one: | 08:05 |
| amorin | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_Configuration_Guidelines | 08:05 |
| mdelavergne | this would be really nice indeed | 08:05 |
| ttx | I don;t know if the "everything we do is public" extends to config files though :) | 08:05 |
| belmoreira | not sure how interesting that is | 08:05 |
| amorin | maybe not all config files, but the key elements that make your openstack scale in a better way | 08:06 |
| belmoreira | in my opinion it would be better to point out an issue and why we use a particular option | 08:06 |
| amorin | yes | 08:06 |
| ttx | ok, so the "scaling story" is probably more interesting | 08:06 |
| ttx | we'll get to that in next topic | 08:07 |
| ttx | #topic Progress on "Scaling within one cluster" goal | 08:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress on "Scaling within one cluster" goal (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:07 | |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-cluster-scaling | 08:07 |
| belmoreira | I'm afraid we don't anything interesting in the config. Is more an architecture decision | 08:07 |
| ttx | masahito is not around so I'll push back his work item | 08:08 |
| ttx | #action masahito to prepare oslo.metric POC code release | 08:08 |
| ttx | Regarding scaling stories, I did create a wiki page for long-term storage of submitted stories | 08:08 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_Scaling_Stories | 08:08 |
| ttx | People can/should still submit them to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scaling-stories, as it's simpler to dump content there | 08:08 |
| ttx | belmoreira: do you still plan to submit one ? | 08:08 |
| belmoreira | yes, I added some notes, still WIP | 08:08 |
| belmoreira | it should be there | 08:09 |
| ttx | oh, I see it | 08:09 |
| ttx | I'll let you continue working on it before copying it to teh wiki | 08:09 |
| belmoreira | we will also write a blog post about this | 08:09 |
| ttx | #action belmoreira to continue working on scaling story on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scaling-stories | 08:09 |
| mdelavergne | nice! | 08:10 |
| ttx | oneswig also had one story planned around bare metal cluster scaling | 08:10 |
| ttx | but he has not been around much lately. I'll try to reach out to him off-meeting | 08:10 |
| ttx | #action ttx to talk to oneswig about his bare metal cluster scaling story work item | 08:11 |
| ttx | OK, anything else on that topic? | 08:11 |
| ttx | ok, next up... | 08:12 |
| ttx | #topic Large scale operations now-virtual OpenDev track | 08:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Large scale operations now-virtual OpenDev track (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:12 | |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LargeScaleOps_OpenDev | 08:12 |
| ttx | The date is now set: June 29 - July 1 | 08:12 |
| ttx | So please all block those dates in your calendar! | 08:12 |
| ttx | The goal is really to start a longer discussion, and continue it in the SIG | 08:13 |
| ttx | since we won;t be able to cover that much during the event | 08:13 |
| ttx | belmoreira: anything to add? | 08:13 |
| belmoreira | no | 08:13 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 08:13 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting | 08:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next meeting (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 08:14 | |
| ttx | Next sync point in two weeks ? | 08:14 |
| amorin | yup | 08:14 |
| ttx | #info next meeting: May 6, 8:00UTC | 08:14 |
| ttx | Oh, I wanted to ask... | 08:14 |
| ttx | Do you find the meeting summaries and reminders I post to the mailing-list useful ? | 08:14 |
| ttx | If not, I can stop writing them :) | 08:14 |
| mdelavergne | I read them, but if it's too much work I can read the pads :p | 08:15 |
| amorin | I dont receive them, I might have an issue with my rules | 08:15 |
| mdelavergne | I don't know if it attracts people though | 08:15 |
| belmoreira | ttx they are really informative for everyone that doesn't attend the meeting | 08:15 |
| amorin | anyway it's a good idea I think | 08:15 |
| ttx | I think it's good to attract potential new members to teh SIG, but if that's the only goal maybe a monthly summary of large scale SIG progress would be enough | 08:16 |
| ttx | I don't want to create fatigue and train people to ignore them | 08:16 |
| mdelavergne | yep, one per month might be sufficient to attract people | 08:16 |
| belmoreira | ttx I see a lot of value in them | 08:16 |
| ttx | OK so meeting summaries are useful | 08:17 |
| ttx | Maybe the Monday meeting reminder is too much | 08:17 |
| ttx | unless that is the way you remember the meeting :) | 08:17 |
| mdelavergne | Maybe if you do only one per month you could put the calendar for the next meetings, just in case people want to join in | 08:18 |
| belmoreira | :) if they don't create a lot of friction for you I think both are good | 08:18 |
| ttx | no it's not too much work. I'll keep them. Just doublechecking they are worth it :) | 08:18 |
| ttx | That is all I had for today... anything else we should discuss? | 08:19 |
| ttx | I'll take that as a no.... Thanks everyone! Have a great day! | 08:20 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 08:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:20 | |
| amorin | thanks! | 08:20 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 08:20:34 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2020/large_scale_sig.2020-04-22-08.00.html | 08:20 |
| mdelavergne | Thanks everyone! | 08:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2020/large_scale_sig.2020-04-22-08.00.txt | 08:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2020/large_scale_sig.2020-04-22-08.00.log.html | 08:20 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 15:00:28 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 15:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 15:01 |
| maciejjozefczyk | hey | 15:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:02 |
| slaweq | Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 15:02 |
| slaweq | ok, lets start | 15:02 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:02 | |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: check ovn jobs failure | 15:03 |
| slaweq | fix is already merged: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720248/ | 15:03 |
| slaweq | thx ralonsoh :) | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | yw | 15:03 |
| slaweq | second one | 15:03 |
| slaweq | slaweq: ping yamamoto about midonet gate problems | 15:03 |
| slaweq | I still don't have any reply from yamamoto | 15:03 |
| slaweq | I will keep trying and maybe take a look at those broken UTs if I will have few minutes | 15:04 |
| slaweq | and that's all for actions from last week | 15:04 |
| slaweq | #topic Stadium projects | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stadium projects (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:04 | |
| slaweq | standardize on zuul v3 | 15:04 |
| slaweq | Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-train-zuulv3-py27drop | 15:04 |
| slaweq | I don't think there was any update on this last week | 15:05 |
| njohnston | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672925 is failing on the networking-odl-functional jobs,. I am looking into it | 15:05 |
| slaweq | njohnston: I just wanted to mention to try https://review.opendev.org/#/c/715439/3 but I think You already did | 15:05 |
| slaweq | so with this patch only midonet will still be not done, right? | 15:06 |
| njohnston | Lajos did that in PS 31 I think | 15:06 |
| njohnston | slaweq: Yes I believe so | 15:06 |
| slaweq | that's great | 15:07 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston for update | 15:07 |
| slaweq | according to CI issues in stadium projects, we have still this midonet bug | 15:07 |
| slaweq | other than that I think that stadium projects are running pretty fine | 15:08 |
| slaweq | do You have anything to add/ask regarding stadium? | 15:08 |
| njohnston | nothing here | 15:08 |
| bcafarel | small change in neutron-tempest-plugin, some jobs that were still using all-plugin tox target now use the standard "all" | 15:09 |
| bcafarel | (fixing this deprecated one was needed to make https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721277/ passing) | 15:09 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: and that will help us to not have issues like we had with Stein jobs recently, right? | 15:09 |
| bcafarel | yes, and hopefully should not have any side effect :) | 15:10 |
| slaweq | bcafarel++ thx | 15:10 |
| slaweq | ok, and with that I think we can move to the next topic which is | 15:11 |
| slaweq | #topic Stable branches | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branches (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:11 | |
| slaweq | :) | 15:11 |
| slaweq | Train dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/pM54U-Kiz/neutron-failure-rate-previous-stable-release?orgId=1 | 15:11 |
| slaweq | Stein dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/dCFVU-Kik/neutron-failure-rate-older-stable-release?orgId=1 | 15:11 |
| slaweq | except this issue with neutron-tempest-plugin jobs on Stein it looks ok for me | 15:12 |
| bcafarel | yep and that stein fix is now in | 15:12 |
| slaweq | yes, I saw :) thx once again for taking care of this | 15:13 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we can move on to next topic, right? | 15:14 |
| njohnston | +1 | 15:15 |
| bcafarel | yes | 15:15 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:16 | |
| slaweq | in overall I think that it looks ok here too | 15:17 |
| njohnston | BTW what is with the points appearing in the "Number of integrated Tempest jobs runs (Gate queue)" for the "24 hours" line? Seems like an error in the grafana config. | 15:17 |
| slaweq | njohnston: are You asking about lack of data there? | 15:18 |
| njohnston | "24 hours" doesn't sound like a zuul job name | 15:19 |
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| njohnston | so I don't know why it would be in the data set | 15:19 |
| bcafarel | hmm I don't have it, refreshing | 15:19 |
| slaweq | me neighter :) | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | nope | 15:20 |
| njohnston | weird, I just refreshed it and it went away | 15:20 |
| njohnston | that is super weird | 15:20 |
| njohnston | ok, never mind :-) | 15:20 |
| bcafarel | :) you scared it away | 15:20 |
| slaweq | LOL | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | zuul! the source of problems and solutions | 15:20 |
| slaweq | ok, so we at least solved one problem today ;P | 15:20 |
| njohnston | LOL | 15:21 |
| slaweq | from the other things, I saw today that we have a lot of non-voting jobs in check queue | 15:21 |
| slaweq | maybe we should think about promoting some of them to be voting? | 15:22 |
| slaweq | I'm not saying about doing it now but after we will cut stable/ussuri | 15:22 |
| njohnston | I was going to suggest that openstacksdk-functional-devstack-networking might be a good candidate | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | right | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | can we wait until V? | 15:22 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: yes :) | 15:22 |
| njohnston | and openstack-tox-py38 is another good candidate. No reason to move quickly though, I agree it would be good to wait until V | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | +1 to the idea | 15:23 |
| slaweq | in next weeks I will prepare some data and proposals about what we can promote | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | agree | 15:23 |
| bcafarel | sounds good some of these look interesting | 15:23 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:23 |
| bcafarel | like neutron-tempest-with-uwsgi (just quick pick in the list) | 15:23 |
| njohnston | neutron-ovn-tempest-slow has <10% failures for some time it looks like | 15:24 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: this one is actually already voting IIRC, we just still didn't merge https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718392/ | 15:25 |
| bcafarel | oh I thought I had seen it going in nvm then | 15:25 |
| bcafarel | ok I just need to have my eyes sight, it was just Andreas' +2 | 15:25 |
| slaweq | :) | 15:26 |
| slaweq | I added frickler to it today so hopefully he will check it soon | 15:26 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we can continue with other topics now | 15:27 |
| slaweq | #topic fullstack/functional | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fullstack/functional (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:27 | |
| slaweq | today I found one new example of timeout in neutron.tests.functional.agent.linux.test_keepalived.KeepalivedManagerTestCase | 15:27 |
| slaweq | https://a1c2986e7388db3a1401-541b7a48fdccc7de277eccd1d7d5bce5.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/718690/2/check/neutron-functional/9f51d60/testr_results.html | 15:27 |
| slaweq | but this time it's during creation of interface | 15:27 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: does it rings a bell for You? | 15:28 |
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| ralonsoh | this is during the interface creation, not the namespace | 15:28 |
| slaweq | isn't that this GIL related issue which You were fixing recently? | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | but I can take a look at it | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | nope | 15:28 |
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| slaweq | ok, I though that maybe it may be same/similar root cause | 15:29 |
| slaweq | thx for taking care of it :) | 15:29 |
| slaweq | #action ralonsoh to check timeout during interface creation in functional tests | 15:29 |
| slaweq | and I also found 2 ovn related issues in functional tests: | 15:30 |
| slaweq | https://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_abb/717851/2/gate/neutron-functional/abb91cb/testr_results.html | 15:30 |
| slaweq | https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_e2c/717083/6/check/neutron-functional/e2c63e4/testr_results.html | 15:30 |
| slaweq | maciejjozefczyk: does it rings a bell for You maybe? | 15:30 |
| maciejjozefczyk | slaweq, looks like the same story that the timeout change should solve | 15:31 |
| slaweq | maciejjozefczyk: do You have link to patch? | 15:31 |
| maciejjozefczyk | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/717704/ | 15:32 |
| maciejjozefczyk | but looks like it is still the case or something smiliar | 15:32 |
| slaweq | maciejjozefczyk: yes, at least one of those failures is from this week | 15:33 |
| slaweq | so both probably have this timeouts patch already | 15:33 |
| maciejjozefczyk | I'm gonna take a look on those two | 15:34 |
| slaweq | thx maciejjozefczyk | 15:34 |
| maciejjozefczyk | and reopen bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1868110 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1868110 in neutron "[OVN] neutron.tests.functional.plugins.ml2.drivers.ovn.mech_driver.ovsdb.test_ovn_db_sync.TestOvnNbSyncOverTcp.test_ovn_nb_sync_log randomly fails" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Maciej Jozefczyk (maciej.jozefczyk) | 15:34 |
| slaweq | #action maciejjozefczyk to take a look at ovn related functional test failures | 15:34 |
| slaweq | and that's all from me regarding functional/fullstack tests | 15:35 |
| slaweq | anything else You want to add? | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | no | 15:35 |
| slaweq | so lets move on | 15:37 |
| slaweq | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest/Scenario (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 15:37 | |
| slaweq | first of all | 15:37 |
| slaweq | I proposed patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721805/ to enable l3_ha in scenario jobs | 15:37 |
| slaweq | IMO we lack of L3 HA coverage in our CI | 15:37 |
| slaweq | and that would be easy way to have it covered somehow | 15:37 |
| slaweq | even if those are singlenode jobs, it will spawn keepalived, and all that stuff for each router | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | we'll catch "functional" problems with keepalived | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | +1 | 15:38 |
| slaweq | yep | 15:38 |
| njohnston | very good | 15:39 |
| bcafarel | sounds good, does that reduce coverage on non-l3 ha? | 15:39 |
| slaweq | in fact I got this idea when I did similar patch for tripleo standalone job yesterday | 15:39 |
| slaweq | and I found new bug with keepalived 2.x with it immediately :) | 15:39 |
| bcafarel | (not the code part I know the best) | 15:39 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: we still have tempest jobs for legacy, non-ha routers | 15:39 |
| bcafarel | ok then no objection at all! | 15:40 |
| slaweq | but IMO we should focus more on testing L3HA as IMO it's more used than legacy routers | 15:40 |
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| njohnston | agreed, definitely | 15:40 |
| slaweq | thx for supporting this :) | 15:41 |
| slaweq | from other things related to scenario jobs, I found one issue recently | 15:41 |
| slaweq | in neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_trunk.TrunkTest.test_trunk_subport_lifecycle - timeout while waiting for port to be ACTIVE | 15:41 |
| slaweq | https://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_d8c/717851/2/check/neutron-ovn-tempest-ovs-release/d8c0282/testr_results.html | 15:41 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to take a look into this? | 15:42 |
| slaweq | it's in ovn job | 15:42 |
| maciejjozefczyk | slaweq, I think Jakub was checking it in d/s | 15:42 |
| maciejjozefczyk | slaweq, I'll create a lp and check with Jakub | 15:43 |
| slaweq | maciejjozefczyk: thx a lot | 15:43 |
| slaweq | #action maciejjozefczyk to report LP regarding failing neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_trunk.TrunkTest.test_trunk_subport_lifecycle in neutron-ovn-tempest-ovs-release job | 15:44 |
| slaweq | ok, and that's all what I have for today | 15:44 |
| slaweq | periodic jobs are working fine | 15:44 |
| slaweq | anything else You want to discuss today? | 15:44 |
| slaweq | if not, I think we can finish a bit earlier today | 15:46 |
| slaweq | thx for attending | 15:46 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:46 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:46 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 15:46:13 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2020/neutron_ci.2020-04-22-15.00.html | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2020/neutron_ci.2020-04-22-15.00.txt | 15:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2020/neutron_ci.2020-04-22-15.00.log.html | 15:46 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:46 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 15:46 |
| maciejjozefczyk | bye | 15:46 |
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