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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 23 16:00:32 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:00 |
| lyarwood | o/ | 16:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 16:00 |
| gibi | what a nice crowd | 16:01 |
| artom | ~o~ | 16:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 16:01 |
| gibi | #topic Last meeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:01 | |
| gibi | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-04-16-16.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| gibi | we agreed not to bump compute RPC to 6.0 in Ussuri | 16:01 |
| gibi | anything else we need to bring back from last meeting? | 16:02 |
| aarents | o/ | 16:02 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:02 | |
| gibi | No Critical bugs | 16:02 |
| gibi | #link 53 new untriaged bugs (-18 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:02 |
| bauzas | 51 even ;) | 16:02 |
| gibi | \o/ | 16:03 |
| gibi | (my data is from my morning) | 16:03 |
| gibi | we need to keep an eye of possible regressions as Ussuri release is in 3 weeks | 16:03 |
| gibi | RC critical bugs are tagged with ussuri-rc-potential #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=ussuri-rc-potential | 16:03 |
| gibi | but don't have any at the moment | 16:03 |
| gibi | anything else about bugs? | 16:03 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:05 | |
| gibi | TODOs are tracked in the etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ussuri-rc-potential | 16:05 |
| gibi | The work on bp policy-defaults-refresh has been finished. This was the last feature we wanted for Ussuri. | 16:05 |
| gibi | We will cut Ussuri RC1 today | 16:05 |
| gibi | Reno prelude patch merged. Thanks bauzas. | 16:06 |
| bauzas | np | 16:06 |
| gibi | a small follow up for the prelude is on the gate | 16:06 |
| bauzas | the FUP is on its way | 16:06 |
| melwitt | ++ | 16:06 |
| gibi | compute RPC alias patch has been merged. thanks takashi | 16:06 |
| gmann | ++ | 16:06 |
| melwitt | to add the policy doc link right | 16:06 |
| gibi | melwitt: right | 16:06 |
| bauzas | we need a second core for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718630/2 | 16:06 |
| melwitt | cool | 16:06 |
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| gibi | We still need to merge the revert of the turned off DB unit test https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718630/ | 16:07 |
| bauzas | yup, this | 16:07 |
| gibi | yinx | 16:07 |
| gibi | :) | 16:07 |
| melwitt | ah yes, I can look at that | 16:07 |
| bauzas | and then we can cut RC1 | 16:07 |
| gibi | yes. that is the last patch I track | 16:07 |
| gmann | policy doc link on nova highlight for ussuri is also merged | 16:07 |
| bauzas | gmann: yup, hence the FUP patch for the reno prelude | 16:07 |
| gibi | gmann: thanks for that as well | 16:07 |
| bauzas | oh this | 16:07 |
| bauzas | my bad | 16:07 |
| gibi | if anybody has anything that holds of RC1 then please tell me | 16:08 |
| gmann | np! | 16:08 |
| gibi | Last possible RC date for Ussuri is 8th May, two weeks from now. | 16:08 |
| gibi | I'm not tracking any RC2 potential issues at the moment | 16:08 |
| gibi | Please tag any RC critical bug with ussuri-rc-potential tag in launchpad | 16:08 |
| bauzas | only regressions FTW | 16:08 |
| gibi | yes | 16:09 |
| artom | Noob question - is there doc that says what's rc critical? | 16:09 |
| bauzas | artom: tl;dr: only Ussuri regressions | 16:09 |
| artom | Understood | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | will it break upgrades or a new regreesssion | 16:09 |
| melwitt | and if we have something like a regression, we usually also take the opportunity to add missing docs if there are any, fwiw | 16:09 |
| bauzas | that and gate failures of course | 16:10 |
| gibi | good summar | 16:10 |
| gibi | y | 16:10 |
| gibi | htanks | 16:10 |
| gibi | zigo will start debian packaging as soon as RC1 is cut so we might get feedback from there | 16:11 |
| bauzas | ie. hold your stable/ussuri backports until GA, please :-) | 16:11 |
| gibi | + ^^ | 16:11 |
| artom | Unless it's rc ;) | 16:11 |
| artom | (right?) | 16:11 |
| gibi | right | 16:11 |
| artom | \o/ | 16:12 |
| gibi | RC2 potential fixes needs to land on master first then backported to stable/ussuri | 16:12 |
| gibi | anything else about the upcoming release? | 16:12 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:13 | |
| gibi | stable/train 20.2.0 has been released | 16:13 |
| gibi | lyarwood: anything else worth to mention from stable? | 16:14 |
| bauzas | should we also tag stable/stein ? | 16:14 |
| lyarwood | gibi: we have a few stable/stein reviews to go before releasing a version there as well | 16:14 |
| bauzas | ah | 16:14 |
| lyarwood | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/stein | 16:14 |
| lyarwood | iirc the top 4 | 16:14 |
| bauzas | b/c/ stable branches will be a bit on-hold for 2 weeks since stable/ussuri will only be there for regressions | 16:15 |
| bauzas | good opportunity to focus on stable branches then :) | 16:15 |
| gibi | lyarwood: thanks | 16:15 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:16 | |
| gibi | Placement (tetsuro) | 16:16 |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 16:17 |
| gmann | one update - brin pushed the updates on delete-on-termination PUT (was PATCH) spec to match the implementation. - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/722194/ | 16:17 |
| gmann | we can wait for moving the specs into implemented folder for this ^^ | 16:18 |
| gibi | gmann: good point | 16:18 |
| gmann | i think sean-k-mooney is going to do that ? if i remember | 16:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | sure | 16:18 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: thanks! | 16:18 |
| gmann | thanks | 16:18 |
| gmann | that's all from my side. | 16:18 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:18 | |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 16:18 |
| gibi | any review to talk about? | 16:19 |
| dansmith | gibi: I had a bunch of comments on that d-o-t spec update, btw | 16:19 |
| bauzas | then I wouldn't want to hold the specs implemented change from sean-k-mooney | 16:19 |
| gibi | dansmith: thanks for the review | 16:19 |
| dansmith | we could move all to implemented other than that one and then move it when it's finished | 16:20 |
| bauzas | we could just have brin's change depending on sean-k-mooney's one | 16:20 |
| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: the train one is making it way through the gate https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706276/ but i need to rebase teh ussuri one anyway https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721278/ | 16:20 |
| gmann | dansmith: +1 that also works | 16:20 |
| bauzas | I just feel it's good to just say what we've done asap | 16:20 |
| bauzas | and just fix things later | 16:20 |
| bauzas | but just a 2cts | 16:21 |
| sean-k-mooney | i wont have the ussuri one rebased today so ill do it on monday | 16:21 |
| bauzas | moving on | 16:21 |
| gibi | OK | 16:21 |
| gibi | #topic Virtual PTG planning | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Virtual PTG planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:21 | |
| gibi | summary mail #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014148.html | 16:21 |
| gibi | I need to book slots in the common schedule so we need to know how much slots we need, and what time slots we want to use | 16:21 |
| gibi | Please fill the doodle (link in the ML post) | 16:21 |
| gibi | Current PTG topics are in #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-victoria-ptg | 16:22 |
| gibi | Please add your topics | 16:22 |
| gibi | I will ask each topic proposer to either start an ML thread or propose a spec for his/her topic before the PTG so that we can have focused discussion during the PTG | 16:22 |
| bauzas | gibi: well, how many slots are you thinking we should take ? | 16:23 |
| bauzas | fwiw, I personally raised the fact that a one-week schedule is tight | 16:23 |
| gibi | based on the current etherpad we need one nova-neutron cross slot | 16:23 |
| gibi | and expecting 2-3 for the reset | 16:23 |
| gibi | rest | 16:23 |
| bauzas | and I'm afraid of any virtual PTG fatigue we would get | 16:23 |
| gibi | depending on how much we can close before the PTG and how much new topic will pop up | 16:24 |
| gibi | bauzas: I'm open to have discusson after the week of the PTG too if more time is needed | 16:24 |
| bauzas | so, 4 slots meaning 4 hours of discussion ? | 16:25 |
| gibi | that is my current estimate but please challenge it | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: each slot is 4 hours i think | 16:25 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: no, we can book hour by hour | 16:25 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: that's not what I see from the agenda | 16:25 |
| gibi | agenda #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes i know we can book hour by hour sorry i ment the windows | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | they windows are 4 hour blocks with gaps | 16:26 |
| bauzas | ok, this sounds doable then | 16:26 |
| gmann | i think 4 hours is max any team can book in a day | 16:26 |
| bauzas | per day indeed | 16:26 |
| bauzas | but if we stick with 4 slots, I'd propose to only have 2 slots per day | 16:26 |
| gibi | I might try to do a booking like one hour meeting, one hour break, one hour meeting | 16:27 |
| bauzas | and we could think of a 3rd day with a 2-hour slots as extra time | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | by the way i created https://github.com/SeanMooney/ptg-cal to convert that spread sheet into ical files | 16:27 |
| bauzas | gibi: one hour is IMHO too much constrained | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | ill need to update it slightly but once its popluated i can send out the slots | 16:27 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: thanks | 16:27 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: nice. | 16:28 |
| gibi | bauzas: would be better a 1.5 hour slot + 0.5 hour break? | 16:28 |
| bauzas | gibi: we did this a while ago with Design Summit fishblows | 16:28 |
| bauzas | and this was really strechy | 16:28 |
| dansmith | mm, fishblows | 16:28 |
| bauzas | was it 50-min-ish ? can't exactly remember how long it was | 16:28 |
| artom | Dolphins use fishblows | 16:29 |
| gibi | lol | 16:29 |
| bauzas | but anway, I was thinking we could try to have a productivity during 2 hours with a 10-min break without being too much strained IMHO | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | we can sub schdulin withing the slots once we book them so we can just put a break in the aggenda for that slot if we need too | 16:29 |
| gibi | bauzas: my point is that I want to have breaks between slots to have a way to stretch | 16:29 |
| bauzas | oh lol, pardon my French | 16:29 |
| artom | gibi, ++ to that | 16:30 |
| bauzas | gibi: I'm just worried that being around for 3 hours could be challenging for some folks not in a good TZ | 16:30 |
| gibi | agree ^^ so please everybody fill the doodle :) | 16:30 |
| bauzas | compared to a 2-hour long meeting with a short break | 16:30 |
| gibi | 2 hour slot in 50 + 10 + 60 split works for me | 16:31 |
| gibi | and then repeate that for two consecutive day | 16:31 |
| gibi | and have third overflow day | 16:31 |
| bauzas | this sounds reasonable | 16:32 |
| bauzas | and the foundation told us we could continue discussing the week after if we really need - or we could just hangouts | 16:32 |
| gibi | yepp | 16:32 |
| gibi | anything else for the virtual PTG? | 16:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | do we know what tool we will be using yet | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | or is that still tbd | 16:33 |
| bauzas | I wish they would use Jitsi | 16:33 |
| gibi | I don't know about the tooling | 16:33 |
| gmann | tbd, zoom is most probably but not final yet | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | they were lookign in to jitsi yes | 16:33 |
| gibi | I can use hangouts / zoom / MS Teams or anything that is free | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | gmann: i was assuming zoom was out due to the secutity issues recently raised | 16:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | anywy if its TBD we can move on | 16:34 |
| gibi | sure | 16:34 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:34 |
| bauzas | yeah and I'd be afraid they'd turn into proprietary software too | 16:34 |
| bauzas | for a foundation named OpenDEv | 16:34 |
| bauzas | but meh | 16:34 |
| artom | Presumably it'll have to be Chinese-firewall friendly | 16:34 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:35 | |
| gibi | bauzas: your turn | 16:35 |
| bauzas | well, nothing big to propose | 16:35 |
| bauzas | I'm about to send a ML thread to the list asking for volunteers to run a libvirt subteam | 16:35 |
| bauzas | we had a couple of open changes in the past but no connection between people | 16:35 |
| bauzas | I thought it would be nice to just give them a bit of organization | 16:36 |
| bauzas | nothing really official but rather following the subteam principles | 16:36 |
| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova#Nova_subteams | 16:36 |
| aarents | yeah I would be happy to humbly participate if possible | 16:36 |
| bauzas | cool thanks! | 16:37 |
| bauzas | the idea is just to self organize and see what we need in terms of coordination | 16:37 |
| bauzas | I'm not a big fan of meetings | 16:37 |
| bauzas | but we can do multiple things, depending on what participants want | 16:37 |
| bauzas | maybe having a tracking etherpad would be a good start | 16:37 |
| gibi | I support your idea of the subteam | 16:38 |
| gibi | If I can help it any way then let me know | 16:38 |
| bauzas | okay, then I'll setup the birds of a feather and send the email | 16:38 |
| gibi | cool. I will add your subteam to the meeting agenda | 16:38 |
| bauzas | once we gather a list of participants, we'll organize ourselves for the next nova meeting | 16:39 |
| * gmann need to update API subteam meeting wiki with 'no separate API meeting now ' | 16:39 | |
| bauzas | gmann: yeah, honestly, we could run office hours | 16:39 |
| bauzas | I just feel that there should still be *some* live coordination | 16:39 |
| gmann | true | 16:39 |
| bauzas | I just don't want to paper over | 16:40 |
| bauzas | anyway, this is sold, I'll send an email after the meeting | 16:40 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks | 16:40 |
| gibi | anything else to discuss? | 16:40 |
| gibi | then thank you for joining | 16:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 16:42 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 23 16:42:17 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-04-23-16.00.html | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-04-23-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-04-23-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
| bauzas | thanks gibi | 16:42 |
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