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| nikhil_k | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, esheffield, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa | 13:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | ty nikhil_k | 13:59 |
| nikhil_k | :) | 13:59 |
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| nikhil_k | Thank you rosmaita for the recent reviews | 13:59 |
| rosmaita | np | 13:59 |
| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 16 14:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:00 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 14:00 |
| ajayaa | o/ | 14:00 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
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| nikhil_k | Cool, let's get started | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #topic RC2 | 14:00 |
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| lakshmiS | o/ | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| nikhil_k | #info ttx wanted us to release the same this week. I pointed a couple blockers for RC2 however, seems like only one would be able to get in now | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171022/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | Reviews on that would be appreciated as it would help everyone get moving. | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | #info RC2 planned to be last RC candidate for Kilo | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | Any reviews that we should be looking for and block RC2 on? | 14:02 |
| lakshmiS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169813/1 | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | nikhil_k: i have one more thing there that may be possible RC candidate | 14:03 |
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| stevelle | o/ | 14:03 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil_k 169813 is required for interactions from horizon. | 14:03 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | pkoniszewski: please give me the link so that I can put it where people can look at it at their convenience | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | during work on functional tests for metadefs i found regression in tags | 14:03 |
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| pkoniszewski | it is now part of functional tests, but i will split it ASAP | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125010/23/glance/db/sqlalchemy/metadata.py | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | btw, I am adding them to | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | https://trello.com/c/CoZ9g13d/45-kilo-rc2 | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | to help reviewers find them easily | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | pkoniszewski: creating a separate for RC2 would be great | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k | as backporting the tests might be asking for too much | 14:06 |
| pkoniszewski | sure, I'll do it in few minutes and provide link to that | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k | appreciate that pkoniszewski | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | Any other concerns about RCs? Should we ask for RC3? | 14:07 |
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| nikhil_k | mclaren: hi | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: you just missed my question | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | Any other concerns about RCs? Should we ask for RC3? | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:07 |
| pkoniszewski | nikhil_k: do I need to register a bug on launchpad or is review enough? | 14:07 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: for the server? Nothing comes to mind | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | please register so that ttx can keep track of the same | 14:08 |
| pkoniszewski | ok | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: thanks | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: I don't think there is anything critical enough atm. warranting RC3 | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: sounds great | 14:09 |
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| nikhil_k | #info We've started Liberty development. | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171227/ | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: I approved one patch to a bug I tagged as rc-potential ... would be nice to have in RC2 (that was yesterday I think) | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | Any changes after the RC2 is released would be evaluated to be backported as per the criterion on | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: can you please give a link? | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | Ok, while we wait for the link. Let's start discussion on the next topic. | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic new client release/client stable branch | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k | was that you jokke_ ? | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: forget about it | 14:12 |
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| nikhil_k | ok | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | the bug mentioned | 14:12 |
| mclaren | I can talk through the client stuff? | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: please | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k | yes please | 14:12 |
| mclaren | There are a few fixes that I think are critical enough for both 1) a new client release and 2) putting that version into the global requirements for kilo | 14:13 |
| mclaren | I've a few reviews up on the stable branch if folks have time to have a quick look | 14:13 |
| mclaren | this is probably highest priority https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174293/ | 14:14 |
| mclaren | Chatting with ttx he seemed to suggest | 14:14 |
| mclaren | that updating global requirements to >=0.17.1 once it's out would be ok | 14:14 |
| mclaren | Are we ok time-wise to get that in do people think? | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: please https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Proposing_Fixes we need the cherry-picked-from tags on the commit messages | 14:15 |
| mclaren | (The context here is that in kilo nova/glance with https can't access glance to boot images etc.) | 14:16 |
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| nikhil_k | So, just to add some more context. We have until April 30th to work on release candidates. | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | However, we want to be able to get that sooner than later. | 14:16 |
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| nikhil_k | So, I would support relasing a new client version given: | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k | 1. We've all the fixes needed for the same merged soon | 14:17 |
| mclaren | jokke_: ok I can add that. It's a day for commit messages ;-) | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k | 2. We release it before next week'e meeting | 14:17 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: thanks. | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: so it seems ... the stable branches are quite more strict on those, so have a quick look through that wiki page and let me know when ready. | 14:18 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: once the client is out, is it ok to just go ahead and submit a patch to global requirements? | 14:19 |
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| mclaren | or is there more process this close to release? | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: I think a WIP to global requirements right away wouldn't be so bad | 14:20 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: sure, good idea | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:20 |
| mclaren | anyone know if there is a stable/kilo branch for global requirements yet? | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: yes there is | 14:21 |
| mclaren | ok thanks | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:21 |
| mclaren | I'll put a WIP there aswell to give people a heads up | 14:21 |
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| nikhil_k | We good on this topic? | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | the problem is that it might come in time for our release, but does anyone has any idea how Nova is doing? | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | Are they gonna have RC still where that global requirements lands in time? | 14:22 |
| nikhil_k | That's a good point and prolly needs to be raised on ML with [all] tag | 14:23 |
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| mclaren | yeah, cinder also need to pick it up for example | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | if not that's shame, fortunately it will only affect on upgrades from systems having those faulty versions installed | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | Have you guys already talked about this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173646/ | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | or actually having 17.0 installed | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173646/ | 14:24 |
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| kragniz | flaper87: not yet | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | It's flwang's patch for /CURRENT/SUPPORTED | 14:24 |
| * flaper87 shuts up and waits | 14:24 | |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: jokke_ may be we can put a SecurityImpact tag there | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | ? | 14:24 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: are you ok to send a mail once the global requirements change lands? | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | That gets noticed and systems would be prudently upgraded with latest version | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: yes. Can we please co-ordinate this offline, may be on email to be in sync with reviews? | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: it's not really a security impact per se ... | 14:25 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: sounds good | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | I'd warn all projects already before we have anything landing that the client will have critical patch release coming ... I can do that if needed | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: yeah, I'm just trying to ensure that people pick it up. The alternative does not sound secure ? | 14:26 |
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| mclaren | There should be enough time between when testing of RCs start to be able to work through any client issues found | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: well the alternative needs active action ... unfortunately we just blow stuff atm. | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k | ok, if this does not get enough traction by Tuesday I will have achat in the Cross Project meeting | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: sounds good ... | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | #action jokke_ Will send e-mail to mailing list warning upcoming python-glanceclient stable 0.17.1 | 14:28 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: nova can't boot a vm etc if https is enabled in glance | 14:28 |
| mclaren | no it's less a security thing and more a not-working thing | 14:28 |
| mclaren | no->so | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I'll review those patches | 14:29 |
| mclaren | thanks flaper87 | 14:29 |
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| nikhil_k | mclaren: heh, yeah. However, getting attention from people at this busy time might call for using Security tag | 14:30 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: I don't think we should add SecurityImpact just to gain attention | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: great pointer. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173646/ | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: ok, do you mind pushing this through then? | 14:30 |
| * flaper87 is so happy to have stable/kilo for glanceclient | 14:30 | |
| mclaren | well it's a form of denial of service I guess, but yeah security tag might confuse | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | and talk to all the people who do not want a release? | 14:30 |
| * mclaren also things stable is best thing ever | 14:30 | |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: a mail to -dev saying that nova is broken with the current release should be enough | 14:31 |
| nikhil_k | I will not use that tag unless someone in the release team is okay with it | 14:31 |
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| flaper87 | just put "nova is broken" in the subject | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | Even the Angels will reply | 14:31 |
| nikhil_k | Well, "broken conditionally" | 14:32 |
| mclaren | well 'glanceclient is broken with https -- affects nova' is closer | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k | == mclaren | 14:32 |
| mclaren | nova and cinder etc | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ok, just put nova in the subject | 14:32 |
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| nikhil_k | basically, [all] | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k | Because ironic might be affected too | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ops, got disconnected | 14:33 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: we always forget about ironic | 14:33 |
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| nikhil_k | heh | 14:33 |
| mclaren | ok, sounds like we have a plan :-) | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | [all][stable][glance} went out :) | 14:34 |
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| nikhil_k | I've added this | 14:35 |
| nikhil_k | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173646/ | 14:35 |
| nikhil_k | as RC2 blocker | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | +2 | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | I'm ready to +2 and ping the doc team about it | 14:36 |
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| flaper87 | Or we can add the flags and ninja-approve | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks, we should fix the commit message. It seems important change that all the operators should be aware about | 14:36 |
| mclaren | I think there's a cherry-picked from missing in the commit msg. | 14:36 |
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| mclaren | Let me add that | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | ok, I can add those flags | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: you do it | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | the bug number should be flagged as well | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | we also need the backport of that patch | 14:37 |
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| nikhil_k | yes, we need a bug, need a backport and change in the commit message | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | But we have time with 2 other reviews blocking RC2 so we should have enough time to do this right | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | I can keep an eye on this and stuart's patches | 14:39 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all for the hard work and being proactive on the release | 14:39 |
| nikhil_k | I will move on for the next topic | 14:39 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Election reminder | 14:40 |
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| mclaren | flaper87 provides adult supervision | 14:40 |
| nikhil_k | #info Anyone that voted in the 'first' election needs to recast their vote | 14:40 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: was that you or jokke_ ? Any thing else? | 14:40 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: me. I hadn't realised that my first vote was lost until kragniz pointed it out | 14:40 |
| nikhil_k | ah ha, too many emails? | 14:41 |
| mclaren | that's it. Just wanted folks to know | 14:41 |
| mclaren | 200,000 in my inbox as we speak :-) | 14:41 |
| nikhil_k | Also, if you have multiple emails in gerrit this might have been confusing | 14:41 |
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| nikhil_k | The link to vote should have come in the preferred email (set in gerrit) | 14:42 |
| nikhil_k | Moving on.. | 14:42 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Open Discussion | 14:43 |
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| nikhil_k | Vancouver weather looks good http://forecast.io/#/f/49.2473,-123.1069 | 14:43 |
| sabari | I saw stable/kilo for glance_store yest, so we open for L right ? | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | what's our session planning status? | 14:44 |
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| mclaren | good point | 14:44 |
| wokuma | Since we have liberty development, how do i get attention back on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138612/ ? | 14:44 |
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| flaper87 | I haven't seen many proposals on the etherpad | 14:44 |
| kragniz | jokke_: there's an etherpad lurking https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-summit-topics | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | which made me think I was looking at the wrong etherpad but I was not | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | wokuma: just answered your question sabari | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | thanks for pointing that link kragniz | 14:45 |
| kragniz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-summit-topics | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | Please do find other links at: | 14:46 |
| nikhil_k | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Planning | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | ok so Call to action ... people lets get the topics up! | 14:46 |
| mclaren | would it be useful to talk about the scope of the project at the summit? | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:47 |
| nikhil_k | wokuma: Please remind us outside of the meeting too to get that reviwed. However, it might be on down on the priority list right now with more important things needing attention for RC2. | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: proposa a session :) | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | propose* | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | I'm interested | 14:47 |
| mclaren | ok I'll do that | 14:47 |
| wokuma | nikhil_k: ok, thx | 14:47 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: I would strongly encourage that however, at the same time we need to have priority meeting before the summit to decide on the topics | 14:48 |
| mclaren | nikhil_k: sure, I'll just put it on the etherpad | 14:48 |
| nikhil_k | Kind of similar to what we did in Kilo | 14:48 |
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| flaper87 | thanks everyone! | 14:49 |
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| jokke_ | I'd like to have proposals on the etherpad so when we know which one of you guys is gonna be our fearless leader to Liberty we can start seriously planning the sessions ;) | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | ++ | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | LOL | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: +1 to scope of glance session | 14:50 |
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| pkoniszewski | nikhil_k: since liberty specs dir is already merged, can you remove -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151194/ ? | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | done. thanks pkoniszewski | 14:50 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks! | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | I should prolly try to find all the reviews that are currently blocked on my -2 | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: you have quite a few of them :D | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | heh | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | anything else? | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | Thanks! | 14:53 |
| * flaper87 has gummy bears | 14:53 | |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: thanks | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | anyone ? | 14:53 |
| * flaper87 sends gummy bears to everyone | 14:53 | |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
| sabari | lol | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 14:53:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-16-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-16-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
| mclaren | thanks | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-16-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
| kragniz | flaper87: gib gummy bears | 14:53 |
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| b3rnard0 | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 16 16:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b3rnard0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #chair cloudnull | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b3rnard0 cloudnull | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:00 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:01 |
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| b3rnard0 | presente | 16:01 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:01 |
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| alextricity | hello | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | hi | 16:01 |
| cloudnull | hi | 16:01 |
| svg | o/ | 16:02 |
| b3rnard0 | cloudnull: not a lot on the agenda besides palendae open discussion item. anything you want to prioritize for this meeting? | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | no. we're full steam ahead on kilo | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | i'd like alextricity to talk a bit about his BP (if he wants to). | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | warp 9, sir | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:03 |
| alextricity | cloudnull. That would be cool. thanks | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | otherwise lets open up to general discussion. | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | alextricity: you have the mic. | 16:03 |
| alextricity | There are a couple of items that i'm still wrestling with | 16:04 |
| alextricity | 1. Mongodb gate tests | 16:04 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Blueprints | 16:04 |
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| rromans | o/ | 16:04 |
| d34dh0r53 | down in front | 16:04 |
| alextricity | 2. configuration of ceilometer across different projects | 16:04 |
| alextricity | regarding #1, i found an ansible galaxy role to deploy a simple mongodb server | 16:05 |
| alextricity | and I mean SIMPLE | 16:05 |
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| alextricity | Let me pull up the link.. | 16:05 |
| alextricity | mom | 16:05 |
| alextricity | https://github.com/UnderGreen/ansible-role-mongodb | 16:06 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://github.com/UnderGreen/ansible-role-mongodb | 16:06 |
| alextricity | I would like somebody else to take a look ( preferably someone with mongo experience) | 16:06 |
| alextricity | I was thinking we could add that role as part of a gate script | 16:07 |
| alextricity | do the necessary things to build the ceilo database | 16:07 |
| alextricity | and test against that | 16:07 |
| alextricity | What do you guys think? | 16:07 |
| * cloudnull looking at the role. | 16:07 | |
| cloudnull | as for the gate job, we could pull that in for testing of ceilometer. | 16:08 |
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| cloudnull | it would need to be something that was added to the gate scripts to do that. | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | I would think that perhaps ceilometer should rather be tested using multinode tests via external-CI | 16:09 |
| alextricity | Definitely, how much do you think we should test though? e.g. do you think we should test replication sets..etc. | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | as it stands right now the AIO is heavily overcommitted | 16:09 |
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| alextricity | odyssey4me: are you saying make a separate gate script for these tests? | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: this is fair. the AIO is under load , but i think with the recent changes in config we can do a bit more. and ceilometer is a core OS project. | 16:10 |
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| cloudnull | maybe we tune the affinity down | 16:10 |
| andymccr | i think we should be careful not to create a second class citizen there. | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | and make the multi node gate required and voting. | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull perhaps, but then I'd suggest not including it in the commit check until it's been in the project for a while | 16:10 |
| alextricity | How does one go about making a multi-node gate? | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | we have one | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | and yes, multi-node gate vote enablement is an important target to ensure that it doesn't become a second class citizen as andymccr has highlighted | 16:11 |
| alextricity | I'm not too familiar with that process, forgive my dump questions xD | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | alextricity: its one of those things you should avoid :) | 16:12 |
| alextricity | s/dump/dumb | 16:12 |
| andymccr | well i meant more that ceilometer is either in or not in, and not like a "its in, but we dont like it as much as the others" | 16:12 |
| andymccr | but yeh multinode should get added :D | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | +1 andymccr | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | andymccr agreed, but we also need to be aware of the resource limitations available in the openstack-infra instances - 8GB RAM doesn't get you very far | 16:13 |
| cloudnull | i like the wip ceilometer role so far. and if its in then we need to treat as we would neutron, swift, nova. | 16:13 |
| alextricity | what would the multinode gate look like? One AIO and a mongodb server? | 16:13 |
| andymccr | this is true, we can only do what we can do - but i think its a slippery slope, do we start excluding heat also? | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | alextricity we have openstack-infra doing single instance gate checks | 16:13 |
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| cloudnull | this is the other things we can do , we may be able to leverage to OS ci gate to put infra parts on, IE galera, rabbit, mongo etc. . | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | alextricity we also have an external CI (jenkins, etc) which reacts to commits and other events and does a full 5 node build-out | 16:14 |
| palendae | alextricity: We have some external-CI jobs that have groups of 5 nodes | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | i mean as a multi-node OS CI | 16:14 |
| alextricity | oh sweet | 16:14 |
| alextricity | See..this is why i come to these meetings | 16:14 |
| alextricity | learn cool things | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yes, there is precedence for a two node openstack-infra gate check | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | we may wish to start that as an experimental or periodic job, then graduate it to a commit check later | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | i'd good with that | 16:15 |
| stevelle | that sounds promising odyssey4me | 16:15 |
| alextricity | odyssey4me: are you a good person to bug about things related gate? | 16:16 |
| palendae | Agreed, worth a try, then integrate slowly | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | so back to the question of testing mongo, | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | alextricity most of us have worked with the gate to some degree - I'm happy to assist, but hughsaunders is probably better suited to handle queries regarding the RPC External CI. | 16:17 |
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| cloudnull | if we add the role incldue as part of the gate process, then i think we can stay away from having a build mongo role. | 16:17 |
| alextricity | odyssey4me. Awesome.Thank you | 16:17 |
| hughsaunders | mongo wut | 16:17 |
| alextricity | cloudnull: for sure | 16:17 |
| alextricity | That was the goal of going out and searching for a galaxy role | 16:17 |
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| cloudnull | hughsaunders mongo for ceilometer. | 16:18 |
| alextricity | I'll need to do more testing with the role i sent, but I think it will suffice | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yeah, it would be great to start consuming external roles - although we should edit the ansible bootstrap script to download the roles outside of the os-ansible-deployment directory tree | 16:18 |
| alextricity | it's "good enough" | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me +1 | 16:18 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Separate from the ansible-role-requirements.yml file? | 16:18 |
| palendae | That's currently where 3rd party roles would go | 16:19 |
| palendae | Or we could make a gate-ansible-role-requirements.yml file | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | palendae right now when bootstrap-ansible.sh downloads the external roles, it puts them into the os-ansible-deployment/playbooks/roles directory | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | that dirties the git tree there, causing support issues | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | palendae yea, the roles in that file, at present, install in the main repo's role path. we can use that to store it in the ansible namespace at /etc/ansible/roles so that it doesnt impact upgrades. | 16:19 |
| palendae | Oh, I see what you're saying | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | ^ what he said :) | 16:20 |
| palendae | Yeah, that makes sense | 16:20 |
| alextricity | Is that so people don't confuse the mongo role to be part of OSAD? | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | yes | 16:20 |
| alextricity | +1 to that | 16:20 |
| * hughsaunders has caught up | 16:21 | |
| alextricity | So..the #2 item | 16:21 |
| alextricity | about configuring ceilometer bits on other projects | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we already configure a lot of that stuff | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for MaaS | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least notifications, and swifty things | 16:22 |
| alextricity | Right now I've added the "ceilometer_measured_services" list to user_variables. That way users can choose which services they want to measure | 16:22 |
| hughsaunders | the way the multi node gate is setup, it should be fairly straight forward to add an optional mongo-prep step that is outside of OSAD (can be jenkins-rpc or external) | 16:22 |
| alextricity | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173067/6/etc/openstack_deploy/user_variables.yml | 16:22 |
| alextricity | I was thinking we could turn on/off the ceilometer bits on other projects depending on if the project is listed there | 16:23 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173067/6/etc/openstack_deploy/user_variables.yml | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | an aside, odyssey4me i think we need to rename all of our ansible files to .AIO or something so that people are not doing the blind copy and getting things they dont expect. | 16:23 |
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| cloudnull | we talked about this before. but it just popped back into my head. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | alextricity why not have each of the openstack projects have a variable to enable/disable ceilometer - then add whatever configs are required for each project into their roles | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | example files in etc/openstack_deploy/ | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: yes, this is important | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: sort of fell by the wayside | 16:24 |
| alextricity | odyssey4me: Okay. Like a "ceilometer_enabled = True|False" variable in the default/main.yml | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull agreed - thought about that a while back... try to stick to the convention of .example, .aio and perhaps others where applicable | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | we need .example and .aio, with no useable default fle | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | so people have to do "something" to make it work | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | Sam-I-Am +2 | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | +1 . sorry , side tracked. .. . | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | alextricity yes, then ideally the ceilometer role can simply use those values to determine which services should be monitored | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | this is assuming that each openstack service requires some sort of configuration for ceilometer before it works? | 16:26 |
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| odyssey4me | it's been a long time since I looked at ceilometer, so forgive my ignorance | 16:27 |
| alextricity | Most, but not all | 16:27 |
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| alextricity | I've been using this guide to help me out | 16:28 |
| alextricity | http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ceilometer-controller-install.html | 16:28 |
| b3rnard0 | #link http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ceilometer-controller-install.html | 16:28 |
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| alextricity | For the compute service, you need to add "instance_usage_audit", "instance_usage_audit_period", "notify_on_state_change"..etc | 16:29 |
| alextricity | There are some extra configs for glance, swift, and cinder as well | 16:29 |
| alextricity | I'll try having that boolean variable in the default/main.yml of each project. I'll keep you guys posted | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | well, then each role will have to have some bits for that configuration | 16:31 |
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| alextricity | odyssey4me. Right I still need to add those in. | 16:31 |
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| alextricity | cloudnull: That's all I had if you guys want to continue | 16:32 |
| alextricity | thanks for everything :) You guys rock | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | other than that, I'd expect that you can move some/most/all of the environment file changes into etc/openstack_deploy/env.d | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | sweet! thank you for working on this alextricity ! | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | that's optional though, I just think that perhaps we should start to use that convention more | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | +1 to what odyssey4me about env.d | 16:33 |
| alextricity | for sure. I'll do that on the next patch set | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull on another note, we probably need to figure out a way to do something similar for haproxy | 16:34 |
| andymccr | +1 | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | haproxy into conf.d makes sense to me | 16:34 |
| andymccr | i know its not "production" but we should make it more modular | 16:34 |
| andymccr | and adaptable | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yeah, but right now we have no way of simply adding an extra LB without having to redefine all the LB's again | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | similar issue to the tunables issue, so it could be solved with the copy_update plugin when that goes in, but perhaps there are other ways | 16:36 |
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| cloudnull | so can we get some more reviews on that review | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | and if its all good lets make it go | 16:37 |
| b3rnard0 | any more blueprints to discuss? | 16:37 |
| sacharya | i am around if you have any questions on the copy_update plugin #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168104/ | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | #topic Open discussion | 16:38 |
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| cloudnull | boom, the man the myth the legend . | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | sacharya good work there, sorry that we haven't managed to review it much - been busy getting Kilo done right | 16:39 |
| sacharya | ;) | 16:39 |
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| odyssey4me | If you could possibly update/rebase the keystone part of it once we have a kilo branch that'd make life quite a bit easier for the review. | 16:40 |
| sacharya | i'll do that | 16:41 |
| sacharya | i will also send another review for all other policy.jsons to use the copy_update | 16:42 |
| b3rnard0 | also in the open discussion agenda | 16:43 |
| b3rnard0 | #info How is copyright handled on code in os-ansible-deployment? — palendae | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | sacharya that would be great | 16:43 |
| palendae | Yeah, so - I notice a lot of our files have the Rackspace copyright, since most of us right now are writing os-a-d at Rackspace | 16:43 |
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| palendae | However, I'm mostly curious about answering how that assignment works from someone outside RAX | 16:43 |
| palendae | Would they assign it to whoever they work for and we merge it? | 16:44 |
| palendae | Here's soem reference on that for the OpenStack projects - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Copyright_Headers | 16:44 |
| palendae | I take that silence to mean no one knows :) | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | as I recall, although it's been a while since I checked up on all this, whoever writes the file has a right to put the notice there with their name - this assumes that their contribution is substantive I guess | 16:45 |
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| palendae | odyssey4me: That link I just dropped made it sound like the headers aren't strictly necessary for OS contributions | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | in the openstack namespace I think they have a rule that only the foundation can be in the copyright statement | 16:46 |
| palendae | "Copyright notices are not required in order to create or protect your copyright rights, but they may nonetheless be useful." | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | ultimately I believe that when it comes to actually enforcing copyright in law the commit history would come into play, so the notice in the file itself is fairly meaningless | 16:47 |
| palendae | Yeah, I think that's the newer thing - if you write it for OpenStack, it should be foundation | 16:47 |
| palendae | If you use it | 16:47 |
| Apsu | palendae: That's because you have automatic copyright upon creating a work. At least in the USA. | 16:47 |
| palendae | Apsu: Yeah | 16:47 |
| Apsu | Licensing is a way to specifically assign, divide or relinquish some of your copyright. | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | yup - so it comes down to the license being important just to be explicit | 16:47 |
| Apsu | So a license isn't explicitly needed but it does reduce confusion with regards to your wishes | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | all of the OS projects do something similar https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/api_os_compute.py | 16:48 |
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| Apsu | As well as potentially enforcing stipulations, such as in the case of assertive licenses like the GPL | 16:48 |
| palendae | cloudnull: That's 2010, but ok | 16:48 |
| palendae | Just checking | 16:48 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Copyright_Headers | 16:48 |
| palendae | Like, there's no need to clean them up | 16:48 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/api_os_compute.py | 16:48 |
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| palendae | So, if someone outside RAX commits they'd drop their own header and it's cool | 16:48 |
| palendae | ? | 16:49 |
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| palendae | drop in* | 16:49 |
| palendae | On their file | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/common/clients.py | 16:49 |
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| Apsu | They wouldn't be able to drop their own FOSS license header if it's incompatible with the project licensing | 16:49 |
| Apsu | But they could attribute the work as being copyrighted by them. | 16:49 |
| palendae | Apsu: Assuming they're following the license | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | palendae on that file yes. if they created it | 16:49 |
| palendae | I'm not talking the license, I'm talking the copyright | 16:49 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:49 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:50 |
| Apsu | Yeah. Just wanting to make sure it's clear to all that we're distinguishing | 16:50 |
| Apsu | The file cloudnull just linked has both :) | 16:50 |
| palendae | Yeah, I'm operatng under the assumpting they're putting it under our license, no messy stuff | 16:50 |
| Apsu | Cool. | 16:50 |
| palendae | assumption | 16:50 |
| Apsu | Then yeah, copyrighting to yourself is good and common, to trace attribution histories and avoid confusion in the event we need to contact or request transfer/etc | 16:51 |
| palendae | My question's answered then - new contributors would put their copyright on new files contributed | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | palendae correct | 16:51 |
| palendae | Thanks | 16:51 |
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| b3rnard0 | #info My question's answered then - new contributors would put their copyright on new files contributed | 16:52 |
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| b3rnard0 | Anything else? Going once... | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | crickets | 16:53 |
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| b3rnard0 | Going twice | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | ok so we're done here. :) | 16:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | moar crickets | 16:54 |
| b3rnard0 | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 16:54:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-16-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-16-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-16-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
| b3rnard0 | thanks everyone! | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | laters | 16:54 |
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