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nikhil_kNo drivers meeting. People are encouraged to join Glance mid-cycle meeting at that time.14:03
nikhil_khttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-mid-cycle-meetup14:03
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EmilienMhello14:59
crinkleo/14:59
sbadiao/14:59
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angdraug\o14:59
mdormanhola14:59
EmilienM#startmeeting puppet-openstack15:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 28 15:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack'15:00
xarseshi15:00
EmilienM#link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-2015072815:00
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mwhahahaahoy15:00
saneaxGreetings!15:00
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EmilienMlet's start our usual dance15:01
EmilienM#topic Review past action items15:01
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bogdandohi15:01
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richmhello15:01
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EmilienMmfisch to update review dashboard -> DONE : updated on http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/15:02
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EmilienMspredzy send mail to the ML about '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' magic string Done - Link : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070602.html15:02
xenolog13hi15:02
spredzyo/15:02
iurygregoryhello o/15:02
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EmilienMI was not here in the last meeting but I guess it was the 2 actions15:03
EmilienM#topic CI status15:03
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EmilienMI would like some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199712/15:03
EmilienMit aims to get logs for our Puppet jobs15:04
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EmilienMmaybe it needs more work or maybe it's good as it15:04
EmilienMany thoughts?15:05
bogdandoAbout https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199712/13/spec/acceptance/basic_keystone_spec.rb15:06
mwhahahacan that just be rolled into a rake task or something?15:06
bogdandoJiri Stranskiy's comment seems valid15:06
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pabelangero/15:06
EmilienMbogdando, mwhahaha: indeed, rake seems also a good option15:06
EmilienMI will investigate that way, thanks15:07
EmilienMin CI, we also made progress on tempest integration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19856115:07
sbadia+1 for the rake task, it's not realy a test15:07
EmilienMthanks to Matthew (tempest PTL) and richm, we got simple code and it works quite good now15:07
EmilienMsbadia: ack, will update :)15:08
sbadianice for 198561 !15:08
EmilienM#action EmilienM to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199712/ to use Rake instead of acceptance15:08
EmilienMand the last sub-item, is openstack integration15:08
EmilienMpabelanger: can you summarize a status? any blockers?15:09
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pabelangerEmilienM: not really.  Just working on getting our basic integration tests going.  For the most part, just working to get the gate job going right now.  Dealing with some gem issues, since some don't need to be installed when we actually run the puppet code15:10
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sgolovatiukHi all15:10
pabelangerdiving into bundle install --without logic15:10
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EmilienMmhh, why does it work for all our puppet beaker jobs?15:10
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pabelangerwell, reality is, you are installing un needed gems when you actaully launch beaker from the looks of it.15:11
pabelangerso, if you have a beaker gate job, you really don't need lint gems15:11
pabelangerso, you'd run bundle install --without development test15:11
HunnerI think it's common to break the Gemfile into groups for that15:12
Hunnereg https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-inifile/blob/master/Gemfile#L2115:12
pabelangerright15:12
pabelangerbut I'm looking at the installed gems when I run bundle install, it is pulling in both development and system_tests by default15:13
pabelangereither way, just testing things now for integration module, since we only really need r10k15:13
EmilienMpabelanger: have you reported the bug in LP ?15:13
pabelangerEmilienM: not yet, just figured it out this morning15:13
pabelangerand need to dive deeper into it15:13
EmilienMpabelanger: ok, good catch. Please do so we can track this work15:13
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sbadiawe already slit the gems in our gemfile15:14
sbadiahaha but only in modulesync :)15:14
EmilienMhum.15:14
sbadiaand the initial msync wasn't launched yet :)15:15
EmilienMit's time to be consistent, isn't?15:15
sbadiaof course!15:15
spredzya thread has been launched earleir this afternoon http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070769.html15:15
spredzyabout that exact matter15:15
EmilienMsbadia: can you take an action to 1/ sync with pabelanger if msync/Gemfile is correct 2/ sync the files using msync across all modules?15:15
sbadiahttps://github.com/openstack/puppet-modulesync-configs/blob/master/config_defaults.yml#L1915:15
spredzytrying to sync with infra how we can use the same tooling to keep modules in sync15:16
sbadiaEmilienM: ok, of course15:16
pabelangerspredzy: nice, will read up on it today15:16
EmilienM#action sbadia & pabelanger: figure out Gemfile split in our modules15:17
sbadia#action sbadia launch a initial msync on all our modules (ping cody)15:17
spredzypabelanger, ack thanks :)15:17
EmilienMthanks guys15:17
EmilienMpabelanger: anything else about openstack integration?15:17
crinkledo we want to discuss using beaker or not for integration tests with the broader group?15:18
pabelangerEmilienM: not too much right now. Once I get the gate job working, we can flip that to voting. Then, we can really dive into how the puppet modules layout will look.  I have a simple scenario001.pp going local, but expect much feedback on it in the coming days15:18
EmilienMcrinkle: we can discuss about that now, we have the time I guess15:19
EmilienMpabelanger: cool. I would just re-use the keystone/acceptance/wsgi manifest which is IMHO a good start15:20
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EmilienMso the question is:15:20
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EmilienMdo we want beaker jobs to gate puppet-openstack-integration repo?15:21
EmilienMlike we gate other modules15:21
pabelangerI thought we had decided no?15:21
EmilienMwe talked about this15:21
crinklewe did, I was wondering if anyone else wanted to give input15:22
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crinkleI agree with no15:22
EmilienMthe questions could also be: do we want to support this repo only in the openstack infra gate or could it be run on anyone's laptop too15:22
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EmilienMcrinkle: we disagreed and then agreed to say "no" for now until we get more experience with that thing. I think we can iterate later if we need to change that15:22
crinkleit could still be run by developers, they just have to find their own vm to run it on instead of having vagrant provision it for them15:23
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crinkleEmilienM: ++15:23
EmilienMthe only thing I really want is:15:23
pabelangerRight, there is a single launch script, run_tests.sh, that will get the box setup to run.  You just need to make sure you have a clean system to run it on.15:23
EmilienMif I submit a patch in scenario001.pp in puppet-openstack-integration repo, I would like a job that actually run this manifest and test it.15:23
pabelangerThis is like how devstack works today15:23
EmilienMso until now, we're good in our design15:24
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EmilienMit seems like we can go ahead if no more thoughts15:24
crinkleokay let's proceed in this direction and iterate if necessary15:24
EmilienMcool15:24
pabelanger!15:24
EmilienM#topic keystone v3 status15:25
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EmilienMI created the topic just before the meeting so we can have a quick summary from richm15:25
EmilienMrichm: o/15:25
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richmsupport for groups is well under way - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202409/15:25
richmneed some reviews15:25
EmilienMjust checking if you're aware of any blockers15:25
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richmtrusts is proving to be difficult - having to support the self.instances/self.prefetch paradigm means figuring out a way to identify trusts uniquely - https://review.openstack.org/20099615:26
richmgildub is still trying to figure that out15:26
richmchem ran into a bug with identity providers - https://review.openstack.org/20268915:27
richmit seems that openstackclient is printing python unicode strings instead of plain csv output15:27
richmhe will workaround with some ruby code hacks15:27
EmilienMI guess osclient would need to be from liberty, not kilo, right?15:27
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richmEmilienM: right, so the bug is not a blocker15:28
EmilienMwell, if we can't test it now, it's a blocker to me15:28
richmThe Keystone devs are giving iurygregory pushback on the federation spec15:28
EmilienMwe need to figure out if we can use Liberty packaging now15:28
richmEmilienM: he can test it now15:28
EmilienMAFIK it's in a bad shape for RDO15:28
EmilienMrichm: everything?15:28
crinklepushback?15:28
richmThe Keystone devs apparently want a lot more in the federation spec, and possibly they want to have a spec per provider15:29
iurygregoryyes =/15:29
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richmI'm waiting for a response to my query from the Keystone dev who nack'd the spec15:29
iurygregoryWe have agree that one spec is fine for federation15:29
richmiurygregory: have you spoken to Marek?15:30
iurygregorynot yet richm,15:30
richmiurygregory: ok, no problem15:31
iurygregoryafter the keystone meeting i'll talk to him15:31
EmilienMrichm: maybe check with ayoung too ?15:31
richmok15:31
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richmso summary - please review https://review.openstack.org/200996 and https://review.openstack.org/20240915:31
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richmI need to update/rebase https://review.openstack.org/17615015:32
EmilienMrichm: ok thanks15:32
richmI would like that review to be the "template" for the v3 conversion of the remaining puppet modules15:32
EmilienMnice15:33
richmthat's it from me15:33
EmilienMgreat15:33
EmilienMagenda is done15:33
EmilienMso15:33
EmilienM#topic open discussion, reviews and bug triage15:33
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angdraug#link https://review.openstack.org/15700415:33
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angdraugthere's been a new -1 on this today from bogdando, but we still need to clarify the state of -1 from EmilienM15:34
angdraugEmilienM: can you have a look and confirm whether only bogdando's comment remains to be addressed?15:34
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EmilienMangdraug: I'll drop my -115:35
angdraugthanks!15:35
EmilienMI agree with bogdando though15:35
angdraugyeah, me too15:35
* sgolovatiuk nods15:35
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angdraugnothing else on the "disagreements" inbox section atm15:36
EmilienMcool, we're all happy then15:36
angdraugany further comment on liberty?15:36
EmilienMIBerezovskiy: I read your comment15:36
EmilienMand we can't add 'liberty only' features while we're installing kilo in beaker15:37
EmilienMwe need liberty packaging in our CI and we need it stable, because if it's beaking everyday, we'll have to revert and come back to kilo15:37
EmilienMI've heard liberty packaging is still very unstable in RDO15:38
sgolovatiukEmilienM, usually we do additional CI15:38
EmilienMI did some testing for UCA on keystone and it looks better now15:38
EmilienMsgolovatiuk: we?15:38
sgolovatiukone for Kilo and one for liberty15:38
sgolovatiukMirantis15:38
xarsesthat kinda goes back to my point on the supporting multiple release mail (that I've neglected)15:38
sgolovatiukand do ab testing15:38
IBerezovskiyEmilienM: Is it possible to participate this activity somehow? I mean packaging15:38
EmilienMxarses: for the reasons I mentioned, this is not possible15:39
EmilienMIBerezovskiy: packaging? We rely on RDO & UCA15:39
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IBerezovskiyok, got it15:39
angdraugthere's also this: https://review.openstack.org/18518715:40
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EmilienMxarses and I are talking about http://openstack-dev.openstack.narkive.com/og1yAf8j/puppet-supporting-two-openstack-releases-in-the-same-puppet-release15:40
angdraugnot sure if it's going to become stable faster than rdo, but imho worth watching15:40
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angdraugEmilienM: afaiu sgolovatiuk's point was that we could set up parallel non-voting beaker tests based on liberty packages15:41
EmilienMangdraug: I'm working close to packstack team, I'm checking with them. I think it's close to have something "stable" enough15:41
EmilienMangdraug: this is not that easy, our acceptance tests hardcode the version of OpenStack15:41
santoshping15:41
EmilienMdo we have anything else outstanding for today?15:42
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sbadianot related to puppet-openstack, but the thuesday (the 30/07) it's the puppet hack15:43
sbadia#link https://puppetlabs.com/blog/join-us-puppethack-july-3015:43
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sbadiaThursday sorry…15:44
EmilienMsbadia: nice! I'll be there15:44
EmilienMmaybe we can sync each others for who can participate?15:44
sbadiame too, and spredzy also15:44
sbadiayep!15:44
spredzyI am registered15:44
EmilienMHunner, _ody_, crinkle: do you also participate?15:45
crinkleI won't be able to be online the whole day15:45
EmilienMI close the meeting in 1 minute, please raise your hand if we missed something15:46
HunnerYep!15:46
HunnerMost likely I'll just have time to help other people, but not actually hack much though15:46
HunnerAnd it's "open season" so openstack modules are totally in-bounds :)15:47
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sbadiaHunner: hehe :-)15:47
EmilienMHunner: nice15:47
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EmilienMHunner: do you know the status of getting the modules 'Approved' ?15:48
HunnerEmilienM: I can check on that and ping back in #puppet-openstack15:48
EmilienMHunner: cool thx15:48
EmilienMI'll close the meeting by congratulating spredzy for his involvement in our group, I guess he'll be promoted (looking at vote results)15:48
EmilienMhave a great day everyone, see you on #puppet-openstack !15:49
pabelangerlater15:49
spredzyEmilienM, thank you for offering my name, and thanks all the voter for your +115:49
EmilienM#endmeeting15:49
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mugsie#startmeeting GSLB16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 28 16:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'gslb'16:00
mugsie#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GSLB16:00
mugsiewhos here?16:00
mugsiewe should give people a few minutes to join16:01
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santoshHi All16:02
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mugsieo/16:03
KunalGandhio/16:03
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xgermano/16:04
mugsieok, i think this is it16:05
mugsie#topic Core / Drivers16:05
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mugsieSo, in OpenStack we aim for the following for cores:16:05
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mugsieA history of contributions to OpenStack16:06
mugsieA history of good reviews16:06
mugsieand a history of being core elsewhere is a nice bonus16:06
mugsieso, based on this, I would like to put forward myself and dougwig as the initial cores for the project16:07
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mugsie(dougwig is currently on a plane, so can't join today)16:07
xgermanwe have dougwig on Octavia and LBaaS and never get good work out of him :-)16:07
mugsieis there any objections, or alternate proposals?16:08
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mugsieobviously as people are submitting code, and reviewing code the group will be expanded16:08
mugsieany feedback at all?16:10
KunalGandhiwould it help if an end-user is also part of the core ?16:10
KunalGandhiwe at eBay have been using GSLB for quite sometime and have implemented GSLB as well in our home grown solution16:10
xgermanwell, dougwig is pretty busy so expecting meaningful contributions is...16:10
mugsieKunalGandhi: core is about core review, not direction - that would be the drivers group16:10
mugsieabout code review*16:11
johnsomI can sign up for reviewing16:11
sballeo/16:11
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. is it about who reviews code ?16:11
mugsieKunalGandhi: yes16:11
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KunalGandhi@mugsie ... ok.16:11
mugsiedrivers are the people who help guide the project16:12
mugsieOK, so we have 3 nominations then.16:12
KunalGandhi@ ok.. i thought drivers meant GSLB drivers :)16:12
mugsiejohnsom, me, and dougwig16:12
mugsieKunalGandhi: ah - yes, this could get confusing :)16:12
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. is there any way i could help ?.16:13
mugsiein the drivers group - 100%16:13
KunalGandhi@mugsie ... as part of the project for reviewing or may driver group16:13
KunalGandhiok16:13
mugsieis there any -1's on the 3 names?16:14
KunalGandhinope.16:14
mugsieI dont think we will have a huge amount of code to review initially, so between 2 there should be more than aneough reviewrs16:14
KunalGandhii can sign up for the driver group16:14
mugsie#note GSLB-Core is dougwig mugsie johnsom16:15
johnsomSounds good16:15
mugsieSo drivers - we have KunalGandhi16:15
mugsieanyone else interested? I would like to propose the 3 cores as wll16:15
mugsieas well*16:15
xgermanCongrats!!16:16
mugsiemaking it KunalGandhi johnsom mugsie dougwig16:16
mugsieanyone else interested?16:16
xgermanI can throw in my 2 cent + we should get blogan16:16
mugsieI think that group should be pretty open, to get as much feedback16:16
mugsiexgerman: I had no doubt you would :D16:16
mugsieblogan: you interested?16:16
mugsieOK - we can extend the invite after the meeting16:17
mugsieany other nominations?16:17
xgermanyeah, let;s also send that to the ML16:18
mugsiexgerman: can I action you to do that?16:18
johnsomI can take that16:18
xgerman#action jonsom send to ML about nominations for drivers groupo16:19
mugsiecool.16:19
mugsieare we ok to move on?16:19
xgermanyep16:19
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. can you briefly explain what each group does and is responsible for ?16:19
mugsieKunalGandhi: sure16:19
mugsieCores - cores review the code submitted to the project, and ensure it is of good quality16:20
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mugsieDrivers - they file / maintain / prioritise and target blueprints and bugs for the project16:20
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mugsie(i.e. decide on project direction, and what is done in each cycle)16:21
KunalGandhithat helps..16:21
mugsie#topic API Spec16:21
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mugsieI moved this to a spec this week, with the feedback from previous meetings16:21
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mugsie#link https://github.com/gslb/gslb-specs/pull/116:22
mugsiecan everyone review, and leave comments. in a few days / week, cores should be looking to merge it16:22
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KunalGandhiok..16:22
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. do we know when this would be part of gerrit and openstack repo ?16:23
mugsieKunalGandhi: I moved pools down to the root, and added linking members and lbs to them16:23
mugsieKunalGandhi: not sure yet, we need to get pinging people. might be a week or 216:23
xgermanyah, there is  a lot of commotion on how to do “experimental” projects now as syackforgew is gone16:24
KunalGandhiso for contribution, we just fork the repo and send pull requests until then16:24
mugsieKunalGandhi: yes16:24
mugsieactually - very important note16:25
mugsieeveryone who submits code must have signed the OpenStack CLA16:25
mugsieso cores will need to check this until we get to gerrit, where it is done for us16:25
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. i think we need to add the monitor API16:25
mugsieKunalGandhi: it is there in the spec (at the bottom)16:26
mugsieoh, you mean the JSON snippets?16:26
mugsieyes. will do that16:26
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mugsieanything else on this?16:26
mugsiegoing once ...16:27
mugsietwice ...16:28
mugsiegone!16:28
mugsie#topic Project Name16:28
KunalGandhi@mugsie .. stil reading :)16:28
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mugsie#topic API Spec16:28
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KunalGandhi@mugsie .. did we add the associate /dissassociate of monitor16:29
KunalGandhii think we had that on the Google doc16:29
mugsiethat is on the members API16:29
mugsieso you add a monitor ID to a pool or pool member16:29
KunalGandhisomething like PUT /v0.1/pools/<uuid>/pool_members/<uuid>/monitors/monitor_id16:31
mugsieyeah, or the monitors will be an array of IDs16:31
KunalGandhiok..16:31
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mugsieand use PATCH - but that will be im,plementation semantics16:31
mugsie#topic Project Name16:31
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KunalGandhialso the API spec seems to have a LOT of API's16:32
KunalGandhiare we going to implement all of them ?16:32
KunalGandhiin MVP16:32
mugsiethere is only really 3, with bits off them. we may decide to drop some of them16:32
KunalGandhiok16:32
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KunalGandhii was looking at the endpoints /v0.1/pools/<uuid>/pool_members/<uuid>/monitors16:33
KunalGandhisorry here.. https://github.com/gslb/gslb-specs/commit/d804a67cb893a7954625ec21993815cdfc47c03716:33
KunalGandhii think we need a JSON snippet for monitor as well.16:34
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mugsieKunalGandhi: OK, I will clarify that16:35
mugsieanything else?16:35
KunalGandhithanks.. i can work with you on finalizing the API draft16:35
mugsieOK then :)16:35
KunalGandhinopw16:35
mugsie#topic Project Name16:35
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mugsie#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/GSLB_project_name_vote16:35
mugsieany other suggestions?16:36
xgermandid you check copyrights? Quantum Ahem?16:36
mugsienot yet16:36
mugsie:)16:36
johnsomE-mail away...16:37
KunalGandhinope..have not checked for copyright16:37
xgermanthe ether pad is slow to open for me today :-(16:37
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KunalGandhithere is a company callled Globalizer16:37
KunalGandhi:(16:37
mugsie:(16:38
KunalGandhican we use that then if we had to16:38
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mugsieOK,do we want to leave it open for 1 more week?16:38
xgermanyep16:38
johnsomYes16:38
KunalGandhiyes16:39
mugsie#action loop back to project name next week16:39
mugsie#topic AOB (Any Other Buisiness)16:39
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mugsieany thing else anyone have for the group?16:39
KunalGandhinope..16:40
mugsieOK, i think that is it :)16:41
mugsie#endmeeting16:41
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xgermanthanks everybody16:41
mugsiethanks all!16:41
KunalGandhithanks16:41
mugsieremember #openstack-gslb is also active16:41
KunalGandhicool.16:42
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