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nikhil_kmfedosin: around?14:01
nikhil_kAlex doesn't seem online?14:01
mfedosin_yep14:01
mfedosin_hi there!14:01
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dshakhrayo/14:02
mfedosin_I got him online in skype but he doesn't response14:02
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mfedosin_frankly speaking I didn't have any artifact related activities last week14:02
nikhil_k#startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team14:02
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mfedosin_spent all my time on Nova and trusts :)14:03
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mfedosin_As far as I know Alex is writing an article about trusts14:03
nikhil_kmfedosin: ah I see14:03
nikhil_ktrusts?14:03
nikhil_kor artifacts?14:03
mfedosin_oops14:03
nikhil_kmfedosin: thank you for the info. I think we should discuss a few action items so that it's logged and we can get to it at some point.14:04
mfedosin_artifacts of course14:04
nikhil_k#topic agenda14:04
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nikhil_kthere's no official agenda today.14:04
nikhil_kLet's log some of the action items discussed during the weekly meeting last week.14:04
nikhil_k#topic action items (prior to summit)14:05
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nikhil_k#action Alex, nikhil, <any_with_ack>: reach out to heat and magnum team to discuss their possibility and intent to use artifacts14:06
mfedosin_afair we have to create a record in the 'summit session' etherpad14:06
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nikhil_k#action Alex: to finish article about artifacts documenting the API and features14:06
nikhil_kmfedosin: thanks for the reminder!14:06
nikhil_k#action mfedosin, nikhil, Alex, all: create a possible session proposal for mitaka before Tuesday Oct 13th at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-summit-topics14:07
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nikhil_k#action nikhil: to sync with mfedosin and Alex before release notes are published to ensure integrity of Artifacts impl in Liberty14:08
mfedosin_okay, if no one else - I will add a record there :)14:09
nikhil_k#action all: find any possible release blockers before rc-final is tagged later this week (most likely Tues Oct 13th)14:09
nikhil_kmfedosin: sure please do14:09
mfedosin_I think because v3 is experimental and turned off by default there won't be any blockers14:10
nikhil_kmfedosin: most likely, though we should avoid any intermittent errors in our tests and that is probable so, just being extra cautious.14:11
mfedosin_all tests work fine14:11
nikhil_kexcellent!14:11
mfedosin_or you want to disable tests by default too?14:12
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nikhil_kno, let's keep them14:12
nikhil_kif the code exists, we should keep the tests14:12
nikhil_kavoid any sec risks and all, make people be aware of the same14:12
mfedosin_it's not hard actually, because it' just one config param there14:12
mfedosin_so let's keep them, but if there will be some problems - we can disable them in a moment14:13
nikhil_ksounds good14:13
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nikhil_kmfedosin: I am not sure if run tests is extensively being used, but it's another thing to maintain if we disable in tox14:13
nikhil_kmfedosin: did you have any thing to add to action items?14:14
mfedosin_I think just assign 'create a record in the etherpad' to me :)14:15
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mfedosin_and 'read and comment Alex article'14:15
nikhil_kmfedosin: it's probably going to create another entry. but your name is first so, you should go ahead and do it. I will add a info item for that.14:16
nikhil_k#info mfedosin to take the first go at creating a session proposal for Mitaka14:16
mfedosin_cool!14:16
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nikhil_k#action all: read and comment artifacts related article created by Alex14:16
nikhil_k#undo14:17
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nikhil_k#action all: read and comment artifacts related article to be created/published by Alex (soon)14:17
mfedosin_haha, I think it was a joke, but yeah, we definitely must do it!14:17
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nikhil_kThat's all I've on artifacts atm14:18
nikhil_kStill have a couple of things to wind up for Liberty and I think we should have a final later this week..14:19
nikhil_kif nothing else, we'd close the meeting14:19
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mfedosin_+1, should pay more attention to them, but really have no time :(14:20
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nikhil_k:)14:20
nikhil_kThanks mfedosin for joining, it was a nice and good one!14:20
mfedosin_about Liberty - we've found a bug in schema today14:20
nikhil_keh14:20
nikhil_kwell good thing we've a experimental API then :)14:21
mfedosin_https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/150521814:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505218 in Glance "Image schema doesn't contain 'deactivated' status" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mike Fedosin (mfedosin)14:21
mfedosin_no, it's not artifact related14:21
nikhil_koh, images one..14:21
mfedosin_yup14:21
nikhil_kright, we need that in Liberty14:21
nikhil_kThanks for reminding :)14:21
mfedosin_and here's the fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233608/14:21
mfedosin_it must be in Liberty, because it breaks client's validation14:22
nikhil_kagreed14:22
nikhil_kok, then. See you on our regular channel. Artifacts updates are pretty much done here, for now.14:23
nikhil_k#endmeeting14:24
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mfedosin_yeah, bye :)14:24
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tfukushimaWe're waiting for apuimedo to join. Or anyone can start the meeting.15:04
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tfukushimaActually today is a holiday in Spain. And Japan although it's already yesterday.15:05
banixtfukushima: hmmm you have the Columbus Day in Japan too? :)15:06
irenabbanix: :-)15:07
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tfukushimaToday is "Sport day". I know how silly it sounds like.15:07
tfukushimaOh, Yestarday.15:07
tfukushimas/Yestarday/Yesterday/15:07
banixshould we just talk about the progress here; I dont know the agenda15:08
banixif we start the meeting it will be in the logs; shall we do that?15:08
tfukushimaYes, apuimedo got caught by a traffic jam.15:08
irenabtfukushima:  can you please start the meeting for the log later?15:09
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banix#startmeeting Kuryr15:09
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tfukushimaThanks, banix. I need to learn how to use the IRC bot.15:09
banixSall we discuss latest development in libnetwork/docker and the progress of the demo?15:10
irenabbanix: +115:10
banixlibnetwork has been going through a lot of churns past couple of weeks15:10
tfukushima#topic libnetwork updates15:10
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banix#topic libnetwork updates15:11
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banix#chair tfukushima15:11
openstackCurrent chairs: banix tfukushima15:11
banix#chair irenab15:11
openstackCurrent chairs: banix irenab tfukushima15:11
banixSo the API between remote driver and network plugis changed15:11
banixThe User facing API changes as well15:11
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banixThe API for using kvstore has changes as well15:12
tfukushimaYes, it got changed so much and we need to catch up with it quickly.15:12
banixThe gateway functionality for those plugins that do not provide it is also added15:12
banixthe labels patch got merged this weekend!15:13
tfukushima#link new remot plugin APIs https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/blob/master/docs/remote.md#discovernew-notification15:13
tfukushima#link label patch got merged https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/pull/22215:13
banixtfukushima: thanks for the link; havent had a chance to look at the latest support for labels, has anyone done that?15:14
salv-orlandonope, sorry. I15:14
irenabme neither15:15
tfukushimaI don't think so. No one is working on that as far as I know.15:15
banixlooks like the labels are limited to networks only which may be just fine but what was not clear for me is that if they get propagated to the remote driver. Need to verify.15:15
irenabIt looks like we need to go back to the devef and update it based on recent changes15:16
banixirenab: yes, note that the docs may have not been updated completely15:16
tfukushimaI need the latest Docker installed in my env to do them.15:17
banixalso not the code from docker/docker may not be the same as that from docker/libnetwork as the changes are being picked up15:17
banixtfukushima: so looks like the publish option is not there anymore15:18
irenabThe “pleasure” to work with experimenal feature :-)15:18
banixtfukushima: had a question about the demo video you showed us last time15:18
banixirenab: yeah has been very difficult last few days.15:18
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tfukushimabanix: Please let me know.15:18
banixtfukushima: your containers were hosted on the same node/VM. correct?15:19
tfukushimaYes.15:19
banixmakes sense15:19
banixI tried the kvstore stuff and looks like we need to adjust the plugin (Kuryr) a bit but generaly things seemed to be operational15:20
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banixI also added the binding for OVS on my local copy but I know diga or feisky are working on it; so will sync with them15:20
irenabbanix: Can you please submit a bug in the launchpad to track the multi-node required change?15:21
tfukushimaI haven't tested Kuryr on the multiple nodes yet. I have another env with Docker, so I'll test it this week.15:21
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VikasC___o/15:22
banixirenab: sure, will do; it has to do with how you configure the kv store with docker15:22
tfukushimaVikasC___: It seems you finally succeeded to join.15:22
VikasC___tfukushima:  :D yess15:22
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banixVikasC___: hi15:22
VikasC___banix: Hi banix15:22
irenabbanix: diga updated tfukushima’s patchwith support for OVS vif binding15:23
irenabVikasC___:  hi15:23
VikasC___irenab: hi irenab15:23
banixSo we have a lot of patches and somewhat diverging local developments, we need to get beyond that and get to an operational version15:23
VikasC___sorry, joined late15:23
banixirenab: will visit and comment if need be based on my experience15:23
banixIt would be nice to have something working before the summit15:24
tfukushimaYeah, my latest series of patches should work out of the box but they're not merged.15:24
banixDo you think we should have a day or half day sprint  and get patches merged15:25
banix#action banix to open bug with info on multi node setup15:25
irenabtfukushima: Can you  please udate the kuryr wiki with the list of patches to be revied in order to merge working solution?15:25
tfukushimaThat would be nice but I'm not sure you can allocate your time.15:25
irenabAt least this way was very usefuul with ML2 subteam, so everyone can se the urgent patches/bug15:26
tfukushimairenab: Yes. I think current patches should have the good shape but there are still some assumptions such as the default subnetpools.15:26
banix#action tfukushima: update the wiki with the outstanding patches and the assumptions15:27
irenabtfukushima: As long as assumptions are reasonable and docuented, I thik this is good for now15:27
tfukushimaI submitted few patches for workarounds.15:28
banixtfukushima: irenab yes. for subnetpool, as long as we put it as a config option rather than hardcode name i think that is just fine15:28
tfukushimaThis tip of patches would work https://review.openstack.org/231405.15:28
VikasC___This patch set is also there for a long time. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230752/15:29
irenabI wanted to mention that there is also Trello board with kuryr tasks for now15:29
VikasC___yes.. Gal created15:29
irenab#link https://trello.com/b/cbIAXrQ2/project-kuryr15:29
tfukushimaVikasC___: Oh, it was invisible from me. I added me to the reviewers.15:30
banixtfI think we should get these patches merged even if there are missing pieces and revise with follow on patches15:30
irenabeventually all tasks will be maintained in launchpad15:30
VikasC___banix: +115:31
VikasC___tfukushima: thanks15:31
tfukushimabanix: I'd love to but they need to get approved by the reviewers.15:32
VikasC___irenab banix : would appreciate if you could please review  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230752/15:32
irenabVikasC___: sure15:32
banix#action all review outstanding patches and merge if in reasonable shape15:32
banixAnything else to discuss?15:33
tfukushimaSo who wants to update the devref?15:33
VikasC___o/15:33
banixtfukushima: can you provide the link please15:34
tfukushimabanix: Do you mean the link to the deverf?15:34
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banixyes pls15:34
tfukushima#link devref https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/devref/libnetwork_remote_driver_design.rst15:34
banixtfukushima: thanks15:35
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banixwhen you say update, you mean with respect to new changes in libnetwork?15:35
banixtfukushima: ^15:36
irenabI wanted to raise a question regarding visibility of Containers in Horizon15:36
tfukushimaYes. It's written long time ago and the content is outdated so much.15:36
banixVikasC___: are you familiar with the latest changes in libnetwork API?15:36
banixirenab: yes saw the discussion on review15:37
irenabhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/232472/15:37
VikasC___irenab:  tfukushima : i want to discuss activity "docker api validation tests"15:37
tfukushimaOk, let's discuss things sequentially.15:38
VikasC___sure15:38
banixirenab: this requires changes in Horizon? I recall Ironic people were facing the same issue15:38
banixyes 1- with respect to devref15:38
irenabbanix:  The proposed patch issetting nova:compute as device_owner of the containe port…15:39
banixVikasC___: you said you want to updat it; you are familiar with the latest changes in the API?15:39
banixirenab: one second please15:39
irenabI disagree and do not think we should let hacking code to merge. It can be nice for demo, but we should not merge it.15:40
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VikasC___banix:  yes banix15:40
banix#action VikasC___ to update the devref15:40
irenabbanix, VikasC___ , all: Please comment on the patch15:41
banixirenab: I agree. I was thinking more about cases where we do not have test coverage. But even with those cases I see your point15:41
tfukushimaVikasC___: You can check the history of the spec. https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/blob/master/docs/remote.md15:41
irenabWith device_owber set to kuryr:container and device_id set to ContainerId, port is wel preented in the list of network ports in Horizon15:42
banixIt would be good to have a working version by the summit so people can try it (not to mention having a Kolla container for it)15:42
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tfukushimaVikasC___: The following pull request would be helpful as well.15:43
tfukushima#link Docker Network UX & remote API changes https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/1664515:43
banixirenab: I see, so then there is no issue with using kuryr:container. Right?15:43
irenabContainer is not see in the Topology view, but I think it will require Horizon code change15:44
banixI see15:44
VikasC___irenab: dont have much idea about horizon code.15:44
irenabSince Horizon suport is usually a Relase after the feature, I think it is OK15:45
irenabFor now, its possible to see neutron port belongs to container in the list of network ports (with kuryr:container)15:46
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banixirenab: you are suggesting to go with kuryr:container and have Horizon changes in next cycle?15:46
banixirenab: sure15:47
banixVikasC___: please go ahead with validation tests15:48
VikasC___makes sense..will not be fully functional but that would be inline with future changes.15:48
tfukushima#topic libnetwork API validation15:49
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VikasC___i think we are already validating docker apis15:49
VikasC___ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230752/15:49
VikasC___or this activity means something else?15:49
tfukushimaVikasC___: Sorry, I'm not following. I'm not familiar with "the libnetwork API validation" actually.15:50
tfukushimaCould you give us some contexts?15:51
VikasC___tfukushima: give me a moment, will give share link of bp15:51
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VikasC___https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/validate-libnetwork-api-calls15:52
VikasC___i think we are already validating these now15:52
tfukushimaOh, I see. I thought I wrote the validation against the requests that libnetwork gives us.15:52
banixis this wrt using schemas for valication?15:53
VikasC___this validation task was in open tasks15:53
VikasC___i guess yess15:53
VikasC___or what else can be done in validation?15:53
banixtfukushima: can you see if this is done and mark as completed?15:54
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tfukushimaYes, I mean the validations with JSON schema but do you mean others?15:54
tfukushima#link JSON schemata https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/tree/master/kuryr/schemata15:54
banixI think that is what the blueprint is referring to15:54
tfukushimaSorry, I didn't know about the blueprint and actually I wrote few validations at the point this blue print was written.15:55
banix#action tfukushima to update the validation blueprint ttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/validate-libnetwork-api-calls15:55
VikasC___so can we say this activity is done.15:55
VikasC___?15:55
banix5 minutes left15:55
banixVikasC___: i think so. yes.15:55
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VikasC___agree15:56
VikasC___next topic15:56
tfukushimaOk, we're running our time.15:56
tfukushimaout15:56
banixAnything else to discuss in the 3-4 minutes we have?15:56
tfukushima#topic demo15:57
banixPlease be available on the neutron channel if possible15:57
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tfukushimaSo about the demo, I uploaded the video last time.15:57
VikasC___can you share link pls?15:57
tfukushimaDo we need more such as one with audio?15:57
banixtfukushima: no i think that was fine15:58
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tfukushima#link quick demo https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwURaz1ic-5tcnFxSndEVVh3dXc/view?usp=sharing15:58
tfukushimaOk. I'm done.15:58
tfukushimaI think we should finish our meeting.15:59
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VikasC___tfukushima: thanks mate15:59
banixthanks all15:59
VikasC___thanks all15:59
banix#endmeeting15:59
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Oct 12 15:59:19 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-12-15.09.html15:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-12-15.09.txt15:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-12-15.09.log.html15:59
tfukushimaPlease have the other discussions on #openstack-neutron if you have.15:59
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Sukhdev_Folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting16:00
lazy_princeo/16:00
jrollg'morning16:00
yhvhhi16:00
Sukhdev_#startmeeting ironic_neutron16:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 12 16:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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Sukhdev_Good morning16:01
Sukhdev_#topic: Agenda16:01
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Sukhdev_#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_October_12.2C_201516:01
Sukhdev_anybody would like to add anything to agenda?16:02
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Sukhdev_#topic: Announcements16:02
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Sukhdev_I really do not have any announcements - does anybody?16:02
Sukhdev_I believe Liberty is out - RC2 was out last week16:03
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jrollliberty final is out later this week, actually :)16:03
Sukhdev_jroll: thanks for clarification16:03
Sukhdev_any body has any announcement before we dive in...16:04
Sukhdev_#topic: Integration Status16:05
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Sukhdev_I updated etherpad with the findings of the integration testing.16:05
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Sukhdev_We have been very active in identifying the issues and fixing them16:05
Sukhdev_I had noticed a weird behavior -16:06
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lazy_princeI have verified 12 works but need others to confirm..16:06
Sukhdev_if I use private network (default generated by devstack) as tenant network16:06
Sukhdev_then BM will boot fine all the way - all the network flip, cleanup, etc. was all working fine16:07
selva_Sukhdev: you didnt change other devstack scripts ?16:07
Sukhdev_but, if I create a new tenant network and use it - then BM instance will not boot and will fail16:07
Sukhdev_selva_: no16:08
selva_Sukhdev:thanks for the information16:08
Sukhdev_during my discussion with lazy_prince, he realized that DHCP was not being set correctly for provisioning network and perhaps that was causing the issue16:08
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Sukhdev_lazy_prince has pushed the updated patch - I have not had time to test it to verify.16:09
lazy_princeSukhdev_: thats kind of due to bug 12, which should be fixed now... but needs to be confirmed by others..16:09
openstackbug 12 in Launchpad itself ""Next 10 messages" changes Display Settings" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12 - Assigned to Dafydd Harries (daf)16:09
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selva_Sukhdev:Ashish has verified today it is working fine16:10
lazy_princeI meant no. 12 bug on etherpad.. :)16:10
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: this will be my priority to test it today - will report back16:10
selva_extra_dhcp_opts    value population for the port attributes16:10
Sukhdev_selva_: cool - thanks for update16:10
lazy_princeSo now that things are working and something is in place, i urge that we start addressing review comments from ironic/neutron cores..16:10
Sukhdev_from what I could see, this was the last standing issue that has been bugging me16:10
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Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I agree - I will start to bug jroll and devananda once I have verified this fix later today16:11
Sukhdev_we should start to clean these patches (to address any comments) and push for merges16:12
lazy_princewell.. thats for comments to come.. but we already have some some comments that needs to be addressed/responded...16:12
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jrollI'll also be putting up a nova blueprint (spec?) later this week, sorry I didn't get to that last week16:13
yhvhyes I still have not uploaded ironic-inspector code & blueprint16:13
Sukhdev_jroll: oh cool - I was thinking about doing it - this saves me one less thing to do :-):-)16:14
jrollSukhdev_: yeah, I'll take care of it - hoping to get something solid I can chat with nova people about during the summit16:14
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Sukhdev_this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206163 has been bugging me16:14
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Sukhdev_We need new owner for this to clean it up - this is a nova patch and I am ignoring it so far16:15
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jrollSukhdev_: yeah, so I think we need to collect our thoughts better on the nova changes we need/want to make16:16
jrollI'm hoping this blueprint/spec will clarify stuff16:16
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Sukhdev_jroll: also, while nova is on your mind, this patch needs a small fix as well - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19441316:17
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jrollSukhdev_: right, we need to clean up / consolidate things16:18
Sukhdev_This is a problematic as well, I have been working around it to get the testing going - please see my comment on it16:18
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jrollSukhdev_: I don't know if it's worth updating these patches until we lay out exactly what we need16:19
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jrolland get consensus on the 'how'16:19
lazy_prince+116:19
Sukhdev_jroll: I am confused - I thought we spec'ed it out16:20
jrollthis is actually a very complex thing16:20
lazy_princeI think, we should wait for the nova spec/bp to get approved16:20
jrollSukhdev_: all we really said was 'the nova driver will need some updates'16:20
jrollbut we never got into the guts of the neutron api stuff in nova16:20
Sukhdev_jroll: Oh I see, you mean nova fixes - right16:20
jrollyeah16:20
yhvhit would be nice to be part of those discussions as I only came on board after this code was written and I've basically been doing archaeology16:20
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jrollthe ironic drivers we should be trying to get the code / integration testing working and landed16:21
Sukhdev_yhvh :-)16:21
jrollI think while we're waiting for reviews on ironic code, someone should be working on setting up a jenkins job for this16:21
Sukhdev_yhvh: welcome to world of software development :-)16:21
yhvh:P16:21
lazy_princeis there anyone from infra team..16:23
lazy_princewho can help us with jenkin jobs..16:23
jrollI'm not sure16:23
Sukhdev_what is needed?16:23
jrollthere's some ironic folks that have worked on them before16:24
jrollmyself included16:24
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jrollSukhdev_: a tempest job that uses this feature.16:24
Sukhdev_jroll: this would mean we need a tempest test for this, right?16:24
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jrollSukhdev_: basically run our existing tests with the proper configs/setup in devstack to use this feature16:25
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Sukhdev_jroll:  Oh I see - lazy_prince had done something in that regard, if my memory serves me right...16:26
lazy_princeif we have the ovs mech drivers for baremetal, I can get it working in devstack...16:26
jrollbasically, here's how it will go... change devstack code such that some localrc things will trigger the configs and setup. then change devstack-gate and/or project-config to set that up properly16:27
lazy_princeyeah.. but we need to simulate these ops with VMs right..16:27
jrolllazy_prince: yeah, that's what I'm not sure about. as long as the ovs mech driver accepts the params (even if it ignores them) we should be able to start16:28
jrollwe probably don't need to simulate the switchport stuff for the first version16:28
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Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I do not believe we need ovs mech driver - as long l2 agent is running, we should be OK16:28
lazy_princeso for a tenant network, the packets will be tagged by neutron..16:29
lazy_princeand the vm should see it untagged..16:29
lazy_princealso the tags will be updated by who..?16:30
jrollwe don't need to worry about that part yet, right?16:30
lazy_princeMy assumption was that these things are done by mech drivers..16:30
jrollthe main thing I want from this gate test is to make sure all the logic works ok, things can deploy etc16:30
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lazy_princemeans, just setup, but no provisioning..?16:31
jrollno, also provisioning...16:31
jrollbut we can start with just using two separate neutron networks, I think16:31
lazy_princeyeah.. but for provisioning, the VM should be connected to correct vlan network..16:31
lazy_princeohh.. you mean non vlan setup..?16:32
jrollright16:32
lazy_princesorry, if i sound dumb.. just trying to understand..16:32
jrollno you're fine16:32
jrolllet's get an experimental job running that sets up and uses two different networks... and uses the neutron provider for the nodes16:33
lazy_princeumm. That could be done...16:33
jrolland we can make that better as we go16:33
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Sukhdev_jroll: +116:33
lazy_princeokay.. will start looking into it...16:33
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: thanks16:34
lazy_princeSo we will have to update the devstack with the script changes to have neutron_plugin enabled...16:34
jrollright, that's the first step16:35
lazy_princeand then comes the ci..16:35
jrollthat's helpful anyhow for others to be able to test16:35
lazy_princeI mean jenkins job..16:35
jrollI can help with the CI stuff, I've done that a bunch of times16:35
lazy_princecool.. will let you know once the ds it updated..16:35
Sukhdev_jroll: cool - thanks16:35
jrollawesome, thanks!16:35
Sukhdev_this discussion is sounding better and better - I love it :-)16:36
jrollyeah, we're getting there :)16:36
Sukhdev_one last thing on the integration front -16:37
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Sukhdev_yhvh: any updated on item 9 and 10 on the etherpad?16:37
Sukhdev_I saw updated patches earlier this morning and late last night -16:37
yhvhnot yet, last week got swallowed by linuxcon and recruitment16:37
yhvhI'll dig in today16:38
Sukhdev_yhvh: cool - thanks16:38
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Sukhdev_this wraps this topic for me - anybody has any questions/comments?16:38
Sukhdev_OK - moving on...16:39
Sukhdev_#topic: Documentation16:39
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Sukhdev_I saw cragusa pushed updated patch for documentation - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228496/2/doc/source/deploy/install-guide.rst16:40
cragusayes16:40
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cragusaaddressed the comments16:40
Sukhdev_I realized that I had goofed up on my comments - I had added the comments on 2nd version of the patch16:40
lazy_princeso one thing missing from it is the details about provisioning network and its requirements..16:40
Sukhdev_but, for some odd reason, they were still sitting in my draft and never got pushed - so, pushed them this morning16:41
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: In my comments (old now :-)) I tried to touch on the provisioning network as well - perhaps not in that much details as you are looking for16:42
lazy_princelike routing etc... and the configuration in ironic.conf filr16:42
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lazy_princeSukhdev_: kind of...16:43
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: see my comment, perhaps you can add to it16:44
Sukhdev_lets all help out to get this cleaned up so that it is very clear and user-friendly for the operators as well developers16:44
lazy_princeWell, I guess, we need to split it in to parts.. like config stuff, and then node reg, and verification etc..16:44
lazy_princeand yes, we will need some kind of troubleshooting section too.. I guess..16:45
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cragusaSukhdev_: I just seeing your comments now, I'll address them16:46
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: all of these are good ideas - please add comments to the spec - so that cragusa can incorporate appropriately16:46
Sukhdev_cragusa: sorry for my goof up - I wrote them long time ago - for some reason did not get pushed :-(16:47
lazy_princeI could have pushed an update to it.. but then I am getting held up in many things..16:47
lazy_princeso this was ironic doc.. any update on the neutron mech driver related doc for baremetal..?16:48
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lazy_princeSukhdev_: ^^16:49
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I am suppose to work on the neutron/ML2 side - I will try to get to it as soon as I have things in a more of working state16:49
Sukhdev_It seems we are almost there -16:50
Sukhdev_I will have it pushed before the summit -16:50
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Sukhdev_As in the presentation (at summit), I want to have links to both documents Ironic as well neutron16:51
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Sukhdev_Anything else on documentation?16:51
Sukhdev_Please keep your ideas flowing...16:52
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Sukhdev_#topic Open Discussion16:52
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lazy_princeany plans to update the specs as per the deviations..?16:52
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lazy_princeor regressions..?16:52
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: good point - yes, we should -16:52
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I will do it - unless somebody beats me to it16:53
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I am working with order of importance - highest priority being - get the end-to-end testing going16:53
lazy_princeWhich is in good shape now..16:54
Sukhdev_once we have things working, then will dive into completing the documents, specs, etc....16:54
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Sukhdev_lazy_prince: I will let you know later tonight16:54
lazy_princeWell.. selva_ has verified it.. I believe..16:55
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Sukhdev_sounds good - hopefully, will work for me as well16:55
jrolloh, one quick side note:16:55
jrollthere's an email on the list asking about supported switches/ML2 things from the neutron side16:56
jrollhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076755.html16:56
jrollyou vendor folks may be interested in replying to that16:56
Sukhdev_jroll: cool - thanks. I will reply to it - lazy_prince and selva_  you should too16:57
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lazy_princesure...16:58
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Sukhdev_it is too early though - the code is not merged in Liberty - he is looking at Liberty -16:58
Sukhdev_I will reply and clarify it for him and set the expectations correctly16:59
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jrollright, I clarified that in my reply already16:59
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lazy_princeSo does it make sense to have a wiki with such supported device by ironic..?16:59
jrollidk, it's a neutron thing IMO17:00
Sukhdev_lazy_prince: good point - we are out of time - I will add to the agenda for next week's meeting17:00
Sukhdev_and we can debate about it in more details17:00
jrollcool17:00
Sukhdev_Thanks folks17:00
lazy_princecool... c ya next week..17:00
jrollthanks all :)17:00
Sukhdev_#endmeeting17:00
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Sukhdev_Hi L2GW folks17:01
Sukhdev_are we ready for our meeting?17:01
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Sukhdev_#startmeeting networking_l2gw17:02
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Sukhdev_#topic: Agenda17:03
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Sukhdev_#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Meeting_October_12.2C_201517:03
Sukhdev_armax: are you here?17:03
armaxyes17:03
armaxfighting a gate breakage though17:03
Sukhdev_I do not see anybody from India team here17:03
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* eshedg slaps gampel around a bit with a large fishbot17:04
Sukhdev_Ofer - are you here? I do not know your IRC handle17:05
eshedghi sukhdev, i would like to add an item to the agenda17:05
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eshedgeran gampel & myself are attending, instead of Ofer17:05
Sukhdev_eshedg: welcome17:05
Sukhdev_Waiting for India team to join us17:06
eshedgtnx.  sure.17:06
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Sukhdev_#topic: Release planning17:07
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Sukhdev_We are down to three patches that need to be merged before we can release L2GW package17:07
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Sukhdev_armax: we need your blessing on the three patches so that I can approve them for merge so that we can release it17:08
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armaxSukhdev_: which are they?17:08
Sukhdev_armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202495/17:08
Sukhdev_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222841/17:09
Sukhdev_and, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206638/17:09
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armaxSukhdev_: you’re not going to get my blessing on 20249517:09
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armaxSukhdev_: I think it is wrong17:09
armaxand so is 22284117:10
armaxas for 20663817:10
armaxI see no follow up17:10
armaxon my -117:10
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Sukhdev_I wonder if maruti is on PTO17:11
armaxrussell’s point on switching to ovslib must be addressed if we want the l2gw project to be other to other contributions17:11
armaxwe can’t ignore people’s feedback17:11
armaxespecially if it’s valid one17:11
Sukhdev_I saw his email last week stating that he has addressed your comments - perhaps it was on a different patch17:12
Sukhdev_I think his email was about 202495 - sorry about confusion17:13
Sukhdev_His email seems to suggest he addressed your concerns -17:13
Sukhdev_armax: can you please respond to maruti's email and give him your feedback as to what he needs to address the concerns - so, that we can get this merged?17:14
armaxSukhdev_: why? he said ‘done’ and ‘done'17:15
armaxSukhdev_: maybe he forgot to push?17:15
armaxSukhdev_: besides, without CI passing, do you really want to merge?17:15
Sukhdev_armax: I am confused - I see +1 from jenkins17:16
armaxnot jenkins the 3rd party ci17:16
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Sukhdev_Oh I see - since maruti is not here, it is bit hard...let me follow up with his email and lets see if we can get to some resolution on this17:17
Sukhdev_other than that I do not have anything additional on this..17:18
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Sukhdev_we can move on to the next topic -17:18
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Sukhdev_#topic: L2GW as cloud-interconnect17:19
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Sukhdev_eshedg: you are up17:19
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eshedgyep.  gampel and me are here.17:19
gampelWe think that with adding additional optional API to the L2 GW and small modification to the HW vtep schema this is possible17:19
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Sukhdev_eshedg: in the last meeting we had asked for some kind of writeup on this17:19
gampelto use the L2 Gw API to connect Openstack cloud17:19
gampelyes i uploaded slide https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6xagq1_AACadE40WVBXS196b2M/view?pli=117:20
* Sukhdev_ looking17:20
Sukhdev_#link: https://drive.google.com/a/arista.com/file/d/0B6xagq1_AACadE40WVBXS196b2M/view?pli=117:20
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Sukhdev_armax: you may want to look at this17:21
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armaxI think what concerns me the most about this use case is the fact that there are too many ‘caveats'17:22
eshedglike what?17:23
armaxif I udnerstand it correctly you have two totatlly independent openstack deployments17:23
armaxcorrect?17:23
gampelyes17:23
armaxand you want to take 2 neutron logical networks17:23
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armaxand connect the data plane17:23
armaxso that it looks like a single broadcast doamin17:23
armaxdomain17:23
armaxis that so?17:23
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gampelyes but it could be discovery driven or DB (SDN) driven17:24
armaxok17:24
Sukhdev_so, it could be openstack on both side or hybrid model17:25
gampelwe think that if we add to the Vtep HW to the locater a tunnel id17:25
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armaxthe problem I envision is that these logical networks must be crafted in a way that they can actually work together17:25
armaxlike IP spaces, gateways, etc17:25
armaxto not mention routing17:26
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eshedgokay, the use case we have in mind is the "tricircle"17:26
eshedgwhere we have an orchestration "over cloud" that handles it17:26
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armaxok, without something on ‘top’ that abstract everything17:27
armaxthis feature alone is too error-prone17:27
gampelThe cascading project that create a shared network resource17:27
gampelwe need validation process17:27
gampeli agree17:27
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armaxso I’d rather see that take shape first17:28
armaxI wouldn’t personally want to expose such a capability with some overarching solution that ensure usability17:28
armax*without17:28
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eshedgwe agree that this functionality without a "top" is cumbersome17:29
gampelwe could think on a authentication of the two sides that agree to connect the two networks17:29
eshedgbut there still is merit in it, if some user wants to connect manually multiple clouds, without a top management17:29
armaxeshedg: without proper safeguards, I bet that could be really hard to achieve successfully17:30
armaxthere are way to many ‘gotchas'17:30
eshedgi agree that this is a far-fetch17:30
Sukhdev_eshedg: I see the use case - but, as armax pointed out - the routing and IP management needs to be addressed17:30
eshedghowever, we wanted to re-use as much as we could with tricircle17:30
eshedgif we could extend l2gw APIs for the tricircle "top cloud" use case, it would be better17:31
eshedgotherwise, we will need to create the "border gateway" within tricircle project17:32
Sukhdev_eshedg: I am not familiar with tricircle - any pointers?17:32
eshedggampel will send it17:32
armaxhow to do handle the default gateway on the network’s subnet?17:32
armaxhost routes etc?17:32
eshedggood question. we differentiate between "l2" cross-cloud connectivity17:33
eshedgand "l3" connectivity17:33
gampeldesign doc of https://docs.google.com/document/d/19BXf0RhkH8wEEymE2eHHqoDZ67gnzgvpr3atk4qwdGs/edit?usp=sharing17:33
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eshedgif it's "l2", then it's a single broadcast domain17:34
Sukhdev_#link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19BXf0RhkH8wEEymE2eHHqoDZ67gnzgvpr3atk4qwdGs/edit#heading=h.5r6zgqbiehsh17:34
eshedgif it's "l3" then the subnets are different on each physical site17:34
armaxI would have to read through and digest these docs17:35
eshedgokay, excellent17:35
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Sukhdev_me too - I must agree that this is an interesting use case17:35
Sukhdev_I will review these documents as well17:35
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Sukhdev_eshedg gampel: are you going to be in Tokyo?17:36
eshedgyes17:36
gampelYes17:36
Sukhdev_Can we set up some time to discuss this in person?17:36
armaxI can see the use case, my only concern is the usability17:36
gampelwe have a talk about the multi site17:36
gampelsure yes17:37
gampelwe try to address the usability so it will be seamless to the user17:37
eshedgi suggest we discuss this in-person in tokyo, pick the time & place17:37
Sukhdev_armax, myself and other L2GW team will be there - it may be prudent to do a quick whiteboard discussion in Tokyo17:37
armaxbefore we rely on some f2f time17:38
armaxlet’s put this on the next meeting agenda17:38
armaxso that we make sure people are reviewed the docs etc17:38
Sukhdev_armax: unfortunately, our next meeting will be after summit17:38
eshedgokay, that'll be excellent17:38
eshedgoh...17:38
gampelCan we discuss this over the mailing list17:39
Sukhdev_armax: I will forward these documents via email to all the L2GW team so that they can review off-line17:39
armaxSukhdev_: ok17:39
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gampelOk thx17:39
eshedgthanks17:39
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Sukhdev_gampel eshedg: I will follow up with our internal email to L2GW team so that everybody reviews these documents17:40
eshedgokay, we will add some more data about how the packet flows side-to-side17:40
Sukhdev_then we can pick a time to get together during summit to go over it and discuss in person17:40
eshedgon both l2 and l3 use case17:40
eshedgplease add us both to the mailing list17:40
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Sukhdev_eshedg: How soon can you update these - so that I send the updated documents17:41
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eshedgwe'll do it tomorrow on the AM (our time)17:41
Sukhdev_eshedg gampel : please send me your emails at sukhdev@arista.com17:41
Sukhdev_once you have updated version, shoot me an email - and I can follow up with the rest of the team17:42
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Sukhdev_#action: Sukhdev to follow up with the L2GW team about the L2GW cloud-interconnect use case17:43
Sukhdev_anything else?17:43
eshedgfrom us, no, thanks17:44
Sukhdev_armax: anything from your side?17:44
armaxSukhdev_: nop17:45
Sukhdev_cool - I guess we are done17:45
gampelthank you17:45
Sukhdev_thanks folks17:45
Sukhdev_bye17:45
eshedgbye17:45
Sukhdev_#endmeeting17:45
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