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| tfukushima | I'd like to put a note Kuryr meeting seems to be moving to another time slot. And now we have #openstack-kuryr channel. | 03:05 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy Glance Drivers' meeting reminder: nikhil_k, flaper87, sigmavirus24, rosmaita, mclaren, dhellmann, jokke_ | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance Driers | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 13:59:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Driers)" | 13:59 | |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_driers' | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:59 | |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance Drivers | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 13:59:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_driers/2015/glance_driers.2015-11-24-13.59.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_driers/2015/glance_driers.2015-11-24-13.59.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_driers/2015/glance_driers.2015-11-24-13.59.log.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 13:59:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 13:59 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 14:00 |
| * flaper87 wonders if it's possible to change the meeting name | 14:00 | |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:00 |
| * flaper87 queries the meetbot help | 14:00 | |
| dhellmann | flaper87 : I think you have to end it and start a new one, since it's already logging | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | thought so, that's what I did. Oh well | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | ok, not sure where the rest of the folks are | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | Short agenda for today | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Merged Specs | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Merged Specs (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205632/ Upload Recovery Swift | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | That was merged yday, I believe! | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | Looking forward to the code :) | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #topic Specs that need review | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs that need review (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234747/ DB Purge | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ^ hint hint ^ | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:03 |
| nikhil | hmm | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | That spec should be simple enough to review and the code is already up | 14:03 |
| nikhil | looks like my gertty didnt sync | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: :( | 14:03 |
| * flaper87 kicks gertty | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | nikhil: sometimes it happens to me | 14:03 |
| nikhil | :/ | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | also | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | make sure the review is not held | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | (closing and re-starting gertty helps with sync issues) | 14:04 |
| nikhil | ack, thx | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | okidoki | 14:04 |
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| flaper87 | that's all I have on this topic! | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:05 | |
| flaper87 | I know we're all very focused on the import process spec (which is awesome) | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | folks can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246971/ ? | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | but we have to take a look at other specs as well | 14:05 |
| nikhil | fyi, | 14:05 |
| nikhil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bugs?field.tag=lite-spec | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ++ | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | I forgot to put that on the meeting topics | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | it's raw, but you can understand what we want | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: I'll read through and comment. Is that coming from the API-WG ? | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | or is it specific to Glance? | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | it's from API-WG | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | okidoki, thanks! | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: it'd be great to get the api-wg bless on the spec either way | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | but these request are needed by Horizon to optimize their work | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: ah, okay. I'll ping them | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:08 |
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| flaper87 | The import process spec seems to be shifting a bit to something way simpler | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | and I'm happy about that. Unfortunately, the clock is ticking and we need to get to the bottom of this | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | I don't have anything else for today | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | If there's something you'd like to discuss, we're all ears/eyes | 14:10 |
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| flaper87 | otherwise, we can call it a short one | 14:10 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I'll take that as a no | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | Thank you all! | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | see you next week and I wish all our US folks an amazing Thanksgiving! | 14:11 |
| nikhil | thanks | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 14:11:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-24-13.59.html | 14:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-24-13.59.txt | 14:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-11-24-13.59.log.html | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 15:00:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20151124 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| degorenko | hey o/ | 15:00 |
| mkarpin | o/ | 15:00 |
| clayton | o/ | 15:00 |
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| skolekonov | o/ | 15:00 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:00 |
| richm | hello | 15:00 |
| aderyugin | 0/ | 15:00 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | some modules are failing with Puppet 4.3.0 | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul is working on it | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | #link Unit tests failures bug https://trello.com/c/IXdfcqXd/74-bug-1517805-unit-tests-broken | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: do you need some help or can you handle the bugs? | 15:02 |
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| degorenko | as i know, neutron has same bug - skolekonov faced with it | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | not sure gael is around | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: great. | 15:03 |
| sbadia | o/ | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | it's not a blocker at this time but it would be great if we could fix it this week, while I'm doing the release | 15:03 |
| degorenko | +1 | 15:03 |
| skolekonov | Yep, it starts to fail on my patch with switching to os_service_default | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | on the packaging side, only manila is broken at this time | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: look at gchamoul's patches to see what he did, maybe you're having the same bug | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | cody is not online but thanks to him we have our beaker jobs back alive on ubuntu trusty | 15:04 |
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| degorenko | \o/ | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #topic release status | 15:04 |
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| iurygregory | tks cody | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #link release status https://goo.gl/XIBRz6 | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I'm working on it | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | this morning I created stable/liberty for puppet-openstack-integration | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | I released puppet-openstacklib | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | and now I'm working on puppet-keystone | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | tomorrow, I'll do the other modules | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | CI should not be affected but let me know if you see something strange | 15:05 |
| degorenko | so, the green filed means that brunch is ready and merged? May be also put links here on merged patches? | 15:05 |
| degorenko | field* | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: the green means: ok or passing | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | _ody: hey, thanks for the beaker patch & release - it helped a lot | 15:06 |
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| _ody | np. | 15:06 |
| _ody | oh man does this meeting feel early | 15:07 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | EmilienM: can pymysql patches be merged before release? :) | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | IvanBerezovskiy: i'm not sure | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | but we can backport them later | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | right now, we are pushing only critical & non backward compatible patches | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | but afik there is one patch left, in puppet-keystone | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | richm: can you look at it? I sent you the link on IRC a few time ago | 15:08 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | ok. if they won't be merged, I'll take care about backporting them :) | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | richm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239434 | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | IvanBerezovskiy: thx | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | any question about release? | 15:09 |
| richm | EmilienM: done | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | richm: thx | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | #topic os_service_default status | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | I would like to know the progress on this work | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | the work is well distributed, does anyone has blockers? | 15:10 |
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| degorenko | i have strange error on murano patch: https://review.openstack.org/247482 | 15:10 |
| iurygregory | TypeError: no implicit conversion from nil to integer | 15:11 |
| skolekonov | I'm currently preparing the fix for Puppet 4-related error in puppet-neutron, and the first part (switching undef -> os_service_default) will be ready for review | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: that's lint | 15:11 |
| iurygregory | keystone and nova - logging and db moved to os_service_default https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247743/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248901/ | 15:12 |
| degorenko | yeah | 15:12 |
| degorenko | but i dont understand where is problem | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: could you create an etherpad with the status of this feature? | 15:13 |
| mkarpin | i am working on part 2 for Heat - it will include params for apis, engine | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | for each module we know 1/ patches in progress 2/ who plan to work on it | 15:13 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, for os_service_default? | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: y | 15:13 |
| degorenko | we have trello board fot this | 15:13 |
| degorenko | why we need ehterpad? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | oh, even better | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | I forgot Trello board | 15:13 |
| degorenko | #link https://trello.com/c/XLJJJBF0/71-move-modules-to-the-os-service-default-pattern | 15:13 |
| degorenko | we have all info here :) | 15:14 |
| degorenko | what is in progress | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | nice | 15:14 |
| degorenko | who is working on some module and links to review | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: we need to take care about the logging stuff | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | https://github.com/openstack/puppet-cinder/commit/70daad9ea4a25471f4d40b78ad70ae0aa2f99a1e | 15:14 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, yep, i know about this | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | nice | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | do we have any further action about this feature? any blocker? | 15:15 |
| degorenko | I will pin this patch to descritpion | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #link midcycle | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | oops | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | #undo | 15:16 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x95f0c10> | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #item midcycle | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #topic midcycle | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "midcycle (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:16 | |
| EmilienM | I should sleep sometimes... sorry | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | Just to give a quick poll url -> http://goo.gl/forms/lsBf55Ru8L | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | if people could take 1 minute to feed it | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | that would help our group to decide if we do a meetup or not, and where | 15:17 |
| degorenko | do we really need mid-cycle? :) | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: use the poll :) | 15:17 |
| degorenko | :D okay | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | I think it's a good opportunity for our group to work together | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | if anyone has questions or thoughts about midcycle, go ahead, we have time I guess | 15:18 |
| xarses | If we do, I think it would be helpful to be near the operators mid-cycle | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | xarses: that's why the poll contains this question ;-) | 15:19 |
| xarses | yep | 15:19 |
| xarses | just re-iterating | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | #topic review past actions | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review past actions (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:19 | |
| EmilienM | a bit late but nevermind... | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | clayton updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet/Coding_style | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | so people can understand what is os_service_defaults | 15:20 |
| degorenko | cool :) | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | all other actions are done | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | we have a last item | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | #topic mitaka follow-up on aviator package maintaining | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | who is veremin ? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure what we need to follow-up since we decided to not using aviator or whatever | 15:21 |
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| yottatsa | sorry I was on call | 15:22 |
| xarses | I thought we agreed that we'd only look at another solution once it was ready to start switching | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | if nobody comes up about the aviator topic item, i'll go ahead | 15:22 |
| yottatsa | I'm veremon | 15:23 |
| yottatsa | veremin | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | ah | 15:23 |
| yottatsa | so, about aviator | 15:23 |
| yottatsa | dborodaenko asked me to assess current state of aviator, it supportts Leystone v3 auth, but didn't support any of required functions for fuel | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | yottatsa: I think we already know the status of aviator. We discussed about that in Tokyo. | 15:24 |
| yottatsa | on the other hand, aviator comes with good test coverage and it's pretty easy to add new functions | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | we are not going to spend time discussing on it I think | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | we covered that in Tokyo | 15:25 |
| yottatsa | someone on that meeting in Tokyo offered their help to maintain aviator | 15:25 |
| degorenko | as mentioned xarses: we can look at another solution - when it will be ready to start switching | 15:25 |
| yottatsa | ol | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | we had an open discussion on the mailing list | 15:25 |
| yottatsa | ok | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | yottatsa: what's the point of discussing about that now? | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | do you have a blueprint? an idea? | 15:26 |
| yottatsa | as I missed the start, let's discuss it in ml | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:26 |
| yottatsa | sorry for bothering ( | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #action yottatsa follows-up aviator discussion on ML | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussions / bugs / reviews | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussions / bugs / reviews (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:27 | |
| EmilienM | if you have bugs / patches that needs attention go ahead - or any topic not in the agenda | 15:27 |
| Vinsh | oh me oh me | 15:27 |
| Vinsh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203220/ | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | Vinsh: always you ! | 15:27 |
| Vinsh | Yep :) | 15:27 |
| degorenko | https://review.openstack.org/245178 https://review.openstack.org/245253 :) | 15:27 |
| Vinsh | are the gates just busted all over or just for swift? | 15:27 |
| degorenko | https://review.openstack.org/246988 and https://review.openstack.org/245876 :D | 15:27 |
| iurygregory | in the last meeting someone give the idea to add "#action" for each review =) | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | Vinsh: it happens what are the logs saying? | 15:28 |
| Vinsh | http://logs.openstack.org/20/203220/55/check/gate-puppet-swift-puppet-beaker-rspec-dsvm-centos7/827612b/console.html.gz | 15:29 |
| Vinsh | some keystone failures that I don't understand | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | maybe chem or richm can help | 15:29 |
| chem | I'm looking | 15:29 |
| Vinsh | I guess the others are just ruby gems time outs.. which means keep rechecking | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: done for both | 15:30 |
| mkarpin | guys can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237035/ thanks! | 15:31 |
| _ody | Can someone add me to the trello board so I can get the stuff I am working on up there? | 15:31 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, thanks! | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory: yes, but it does not have much success :( | 15:31 |
| chem | Vinsh: Something went wrong when restarting the server I'm checking what it is | 15:31 |
| Vinsh | Thanks, its a new one I havn't seen before. | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | _ody: sure | 15:31 |
| iurygregory | me? O.o | 15:31 |
| iurygregory | oh sorry =P | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | _ody: your nickname? | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: no the #action thing for reviews | 15:32 |
| iurygregory | yeah got lost talking to my boss | 15:32 |
| _ody | EmilienM: Trello says "codyherriges" | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | _ody: done | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | anything else for today? | 15:32 |
| _ody | EmilienM: Thanks! | 15:33 |
| degorenko | _ody, you now in trello board :) | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | I'll close the meeting in 30s | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | thanks everyone, have a nice day! | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 15:34:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-24-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-24-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-11-24-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | thx | 15:34 |
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| degorenko | bye | 15:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 17:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:00 | |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker mtg ? | 17:00 |
| sripriya | o/ | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | #chair sripriya | 17:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: sridhar_ram sripriya | 17:01 |
| natarajk | hi | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: natarajk: hi! | 17:01 |
| vishwanathj | 0/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | lets give a min or two... | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: hi there | 17:01 |
| vishwanathj | hi | 17:02 |
| prashantD | hi sridhar, I am here though I may step away | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD: Hi there, good to see you! | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets get started... | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Nov_23.2C_2015 | 17:04 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:04 |
| brucet | hello | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | anything beyond what listed to discuss ? | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: brucet: hi there | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on... | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka Blueprin / RFE updates | 17:05 |
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| brucet | I have a question I would like to ask | 17:06 |
| brucet | Can be later | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | lets just go around to see where we are.. | 17:06 |
| brucet | K | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: sure thing, we will get to it... | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: is off today... so updates on TOSCA parser this week | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | *no updates | 17:06 |
| brucet | My question was on Tosca parser | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: ah... | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: what is the question ? so that we can record here.. I can answer if I can | 17:07 |
| brucet | Is anyone drawing up an object mapping from NFV Tosca to Heat? | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: that is the cruz of the effort bobh is marching on... | 17:08 |
| brucet | OK. Is there anything documented yet or no? | 17:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: we are implementation tosca-nfv profile and tosca-parser library is being enhanced to map "relevant" objects to Heat | 17:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: not yet, a blueprint (actually more than 1) will come from bobh | 17:09 |
| brucet | OK | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: keep in mind, not all objects will map to Heat.. some will be absorbed by Tacker | 17:10 |
| brucet | Hmmmmm | 17:10 |
| brucet | I would like to see which ones don't map | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: the features we have in tacker like mgmt driver, monitoring and such.. | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: we have discuss further once we have the spec(s) out | 17:12 |
| brucet | OK | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on.. | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: do you mind share where you are w.r.t multi-vim ? | 17:14 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:14 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i posted an initial WIP for multi-vim at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249085/3/specs/mitaka/multi-vim-feature.rst. This is a very initial draft i put based on discussions we had during the design summit | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: great..! | 17:15 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 17:15 |
| natarajk | Nice | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: looks like a good initial version... | 17:15 |
| sripriya | sridhar_Ram: it still needs to go through many iterations. but i would like to get folks thoughts on if i'm headed in the right direction or if i need to change any of the points i have put in the spec | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: any *major* sticking points at this moment ? | 17:16 |
| sripriya | thanks vishwanathj, natarajk and sridhar_ram | 17:16 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i guess the high-level tasks have been captured in the spec but still some thoughts on multi-vim assumptions and attributes for the VIM REST-API are few things i would like to get more feedback | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: sounds good | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | tacker team - please review this multi-vim spec, it will be one of the major features in Mitaka! | 17:18 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: at the moment, i could ony think of the basic attributes such as vim_name, description and ip_addr but i may be missing other attributes | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: no worries, we iterate on the spec | 17:18 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, sure will review the spec | 17:18 |
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| sripriya | thanks! | 17:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on... | 17:19 |
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| brucet | Where should comments be submitted? To mail alias? | 17:19 |
| sripriya | brucet: you can post the comments on the spec itself | 17:19 |
| brucet | OK | 17:19 |
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| vishwanathj | brucet, add your self as a reviewer to the patch set....that way you will be notified where there are new patchsets uploaded | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: login to gerrit using you are gerrit id and provide "inline" comments directly on the text.. | 17:20 |
| brucet | GOT IT | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on.. | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: I know you picked up couple of RFEs.. | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: can you share your updates ? | 17:21 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yeah, I need some inputs from the implementation point of view. | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: sure, lets discuss | 17:21 |
| tbh | and I have mentioned some of the details https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1516193 | 17:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516193 in tacker "Automatic Flavor Creation based on VNFD Template" [Medium,New] - Assigned to bharaththiruveedula (bharath-ves) | 17:22 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, first thing is, we have host properties at VDU level | 17:22 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, so we can have multiple flavors for same VNF | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: yes, that means - potentially - we need a list of flavors | 17:23 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, and the same case for network/image creation | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: hmm.. | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: yes, I believe they all expand into a list of per VDU objects... | 17:25 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, yes and storage of those values in db | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: an impl question is .. shd we do all this during VNFD onboard time .. or differ to the first VNF creation (using a VNFD) | 17:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | VNFD on-board, today is a simple db operation.. | 17:26 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, and I thought of doing at onboard of VNF | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | if we introduce these object creation we need to introduce pending_ states for VNFD as well | 17:26 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, correct | 17:27 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, I like your approach of creating flavor at first VNF creation so that VNFD onboarding can continue to be a simple process | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: this is more a thinking-out-aloud .. what if we do basic input validation during VNFD onboard, but differ some of the flavor / network creation to first VNF creation | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: thanks, lets see if that holds for other scenario | 17:29 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, you mean flavor details changed by user? | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | for e.g. for auto-image creation (using a url download), I somehow believe we need to have it done during VNFD creation itself | 17:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: these flavors are created but Tacker and user / operator *should not* change it underneath | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | s/but/by/ | 17:30 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yes, so I thought there is no need to have validation at vnf creation | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: VNFD template level validation could happen during VNFD onboarding.. | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: sripriya: what is your thoughts on making vnfd a bit more "stateful" ? | 17:32 |
| vishwanathj | FYI:Unlike glance images where you can set it to be protected, flavors do not have a protect option | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: then the only option is to scare the user away by naming the flavor something like "DONOT_EVER_THINK_TO_REMOVE_tacker_vndx-vdu1-s3q343" | 17:34 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, and if we donot want to make vnfd stateful ... | 17:35 |
| tbh | we have to make sure that first vnf creation is done and no need to create flavor the second time | 17:36 |
| vishwanathj | I just deleted a flavor that was associated with an existing instance and was surprised that it let me delete the flavor..wow | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: hmm... that seems just differing the complexity to another point-in-time | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: interesting data pint | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | *pint | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | **point | 17:37 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: deferring the flavor creation to VNF creation time and keeping the VNFD create simpler as current behavior looks ok for me, but i need to look into that RFE in more detail to comment on this | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: np.. | 17:38 |
| vishwanathj | need to investigate if heat or nova allows creating a transient flavor that could be helpful during VNF creation | 17:38 |
| vishwanathj | is it a requirement that the flavor persist? | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: I think, for now, we can keep the original impl thought of having these calls off VNFD create | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: yes, flavor shd persist | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: I guess you are already on the right track, IMO | 17:40 |
| vishwanathj | the reason I ask is that the flavor info will always persist in the VNFD and can be resurrected anytime | 17:40 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: yes, that make sense... reduces the complexity in vnf creation time. | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | looks it is zero sum game | 17:41 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, okay, we need to have state for vnfd then, am I correct | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: yes | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: another suggestion, we need to have these object creations off an infra driver | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: .. and directly on the plugin itself | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: perhaps we can take it offline or in the code review when ready | 17:42 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, but I think the vnfd directly calls to vm_db.py | 17:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: I think we need to break that chain.. now that it will have lot more "client" calls | 17:43 |
| sripriya | tbh: sridhar_ram: if the flavor creation is unsucessful during VNFD create, it errors out. with the current behavior, tacker does not complain on the VNFD template istefl until it id actually deployed | 17:43 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I already have version for auto image creation, based on the inputs changing the impl | 17:43 |
| sripriya | itself* | 17:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yes, now VNFD creation could error out - possibly for multiple reasons.. | 17:43 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sripriya and we cannot deploy the vnf with errored vnfd | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: ... invalid tosca-syntax, unsupported flavor combination, invalud image url | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: exactly! | 17:44 |
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| sripriya | tbh: that is the current behavior where we dont complain until we deploy VNF, so we will need a validator for the template | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: that will change over Mitaka with tbh and bobh code changes | 17:46 |
| tbh | and I have a doubt, why do we need to store errored vnfd in db if we cannot update it? | 17:46 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: I think it depends if vnfd create call is sync or async | 17:47 |
| vishwanathj | tossing another idea to see if it would make sense...match the inputs from VNFD to the closest matching flavor already available .... maybe it does not make sense since we want to automatically create flavors | 17:47 |
| brucet | Got a question on validating Tosca template | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: if it is going to be sync, we an error out and not store in db | 17:47 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, got it | 17:48 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: we briefly discussed that in the last call. As bobh put it - flavor is "cheap" in openstack. we don't need to go through the pain of matching | 17:48 |
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| vishwanathj | ok | 17:48 |
| * sridhar_ram close to 10 min mark.. | 17:49 | |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: so you are taking up all the auto create RFEs ? auto-flavor/network/glance ? | 17:49 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yes | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: great, thanks! | 17:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: anything else ? | 17:50 |
| sripriya | tbh: sridhar_ram: that will be a lot of work for the RFE | 17:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: agree. should we consolidate these three into a blueprint ? | 17:51 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: wondering the same | 17:51 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, need to discuss about db migration, will take it offline | 17:51 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: if we are heading in making the VNFD more stateful | 17:51 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: I think it is a good idea..tbh what do you think of blueprint idea ? | 17:52 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: that will require some major changes in current framework | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: if it is not too much overhead, we shd consider it | 17:52 |
| sripriya | tbh: i can help on the spec if you need some thoughts on the framework | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: ack, for db migration .. lets sync up in the #tacker channel | 17:53 |
| tbh | sripriya, sridhar_ram sure but I need to have more data in framework changes | 17:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: sounds good... | 17:54 |
| sripriya | tbh: sure | 17:54 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sridhar_ram and for clients created a seperate patch for that | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: hmm...there shdn't be any client patch for this auto-creations, am I missing something ? | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | folks - we are almost out of time... | 17:55 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, otherwise we need to invoke individual clients in the plugin itself | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | lets wrap up ... | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: lets continue the discussion in the blueprint.. I hope you've enough guidance to proceed | 17:56 |
| sripriya | tbh: will review that patchset this week, sridhar_ram: tbh: is referring to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248536/ i guess? | 17:56 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 17:56 |
| tbh | sripriya, yes | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | alright ... lets move on | 17:57 |
| santoshkumark | sridhar_ram, wanted to bringup the gate jobs some times failing like http://logs.openstack.org/38/246738/6/check/gate-tacker-dsvm-functional/634bd5c/console.html | 17:57 |
| santoshkumark | Same testcases passing in localsetup..The issue is intermittent. | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD: hi there, how is your VNF scaling work coming ? any quick word ? | 17:57 |
| santoshkumark | we can discuss these offline.. | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | santoshkumark: sure | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | Folks - we have lot more RFEs (these are mini-blueprints) open for Tacker. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs?field.tag=mitaka-rfe | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | Anyone new to Tacker and want to join / contribute .. this is a good way, to pick up a RFE | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | times up .. talk to you all next week! | 18:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | bye folks | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 18:00:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-11-24-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-11-24-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-11-24-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| chem | EmilienM, richm : I've rebased the https://review.openstack.org/202689 (identity_provider), https://review.openstack.org/219289 (keystone domain specific configuration) and https://review.openstack.org/219289 (multiple ldap backend). There are here for the taking if you want (waiting for jenkins review but should be ok) | 19:28 |
| chem | the first one is quite old, the second and third are related. | 19:29 |
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