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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance Drivers | 14:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 22 14:10:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:10 | |
| flaper87 | Courtesy Glance Drivers' meeting reminder: nikhil_k, flaper87, sigmavirus24, rosmaita, mclaren, dhellmann, jokke_,kragniz | 14:10 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 14:10 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | sorry folks, I thought we weren't having this meeting today | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | we can skip it if you're busy w/ other things | 14:10 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | ok, lets do this | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | I'm sorry again | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic OVF/OVA in mitaka | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVF/OVA in mitaka (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:12 | |
| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082711.html | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | did you have time to read that email? | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | not me | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | malini replied to it but I'd love to get your feedback on it | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: it's short, we can wait for you | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: as in, feel free to read it now | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | done | 14:13 |
| nikhil | oops, I read only first and did not realize malini replied | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | My thoughts are that the work on the task is not going to impact the API design. TBH, it's kinda useless for the cloud user as we'll be making the task API admin only, which means that the OVF task won't be triggered unless we finish the image import process | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | but again, the code is isolated enough and the engine, as far as we've discussed, won't change | 14:14 |
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| nikhil | I agree on both points | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:15 |
| nikhil | the one thing that was of worry was the concept of standard way to upload OVAs | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | the way i see this working is that a deployer would put 'ova' as one of the accepted formats for import, and then the task engine would handle the rest | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | Now, the new spec that they want to make the OVF one depend on is a whole different thing and I need to read it | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: right | 14:15 |
| nikhil | is there a new spec? or a new PS? confirming | 14:16 |
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| flaper87 | so, to be clear, the one I'm advocating for is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194868/ | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | but then they created a new one for CIM | 14:16 |
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| flaper87 | and they'd like to store metadata using that format | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | gerrit is really slow ATM | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I haven't read it in detail but I'd say we're too close to the spec freeze to even consider it | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | but again, I need to read it | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: same here :( | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i keep getting 502s | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | me too, I asked in infra | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: danke | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: there is prob enough to do on the other spec | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | exactly my thoughts | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: they could always add code to handle the gzip decompression bomb and tarball escalation of privileges problems | 14:18 |
| nikhil | hmm, I get 502 on one FF window and not on other | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | awesome... So, let's give that one a review and comment on it. Malini mentioned she'll be on top of it and make sure comments are addressed | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to avoid spec freeze exceptions except for the image import one, if possible | 14:18 |
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| flaper87 | but I understand christmass is 2 days away | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | so, lets do our best to provide feedback before christmas and then deal with the exception if needed | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | last I remember (from my read of the OVF spec last week) is that it's pretty close to be ok for a first implementation | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | anyway, I'd love to use the last 10 mins for updates on the image import spec if there's nothing else to add on this topic | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | do you happen to have the gerrit link for the "new" ova spec? | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | yes, 2s | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/259694 CIM metadata definition | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/194868 OVA/OVF import | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | image import update: i've been away | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | the last one is the one we've reviewed already | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | will be working on that all day today | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | sounds good. Anything blocking you? Any questions? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | nothing but time | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | I've replied to every comment from mclaren | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i saw that, thankd | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | thanks | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | I hope I've been clear and I'd love to hear other opinions on that. | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | I've a quite strong opinion against his proposal not from a technical point of view but an API/UX point of view | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | and time, and reviews, adn $ADD_YOUR_FAVOURITE_BLOCKING_THING_HERE | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i am going to work out some detailed examples on the wiki or etherpad just to make sure the workflow is good | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ok, I'll be pinging other folks for reviews to get opinions from outside ( dhellmann, mordred, API-GW) | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | but I'd like to close this topic (bikeshed) asap | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i'll put out a message on the ML as soon as the update is done | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | not really asap but just close it | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | yes, it would be nice to get this settled | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | we've been talking about it quite a bit and I'm mentally ready to make a call if we don't manage to convince mclaren | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | i put one more thing on the agenda | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | shoot | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | i am about to -1 niall's property protections spec | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | when gerrit comes back | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | I've been meaning to review that one. Looking forward to your comments | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | anything you'd like to share now? | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i have a concern about the compute api | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | yeah | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so, the proposal is that nova will pass a service token to glance when it creates a snapshot, and that will allow a deployer to recognize that it's nova, and configure the property protections to allow them to be modified | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | whereas normally a user couldn't do that | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i'm not being clear | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | nova uses end-user token to create snapshot now | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | right | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | so, nova cannot modify properties that only a glance admin cna modify | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | these aere usually billing-related, we want them on snapshots | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | anyway ... | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | the compute API also has calls in it that allow an end-user to modify image metadata | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | we talked a bit about this back in Tokyo and the idea seemed to be to do this just for snapshots create | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | right, except that during the snapshot process, nova may need to update a property | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | maybe it's not a concern | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | oh mmh, ok. This definitely needs more thinking. We'll need keystone folks to chime in as well | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i guess we just need to make sure that the service token is only passed in particular contexts | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | right, like we're doing with keystone trusts | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | in the upload path | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | that's a great concern, I'll read the spec and provide feedback after your comment | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll get it up there as soon as gerrit is back | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | ok, we ran out of time. Sorry for cutting you off like this. | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | np, glad to be cut off! | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | Again, I'm sorry for assuming we'd skip the metting. I think it'd be safe to say we won't have it next week | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | So, have a great christmass and I wish you all a happy new year | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | BTW, I'll -2 all specs next week since it's the spec freeze week | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | we'll handle exceptions the week after that | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | sounds good | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | ok, have fun and misbehave. Behaving is boring | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 22 14:31:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-12-22-14.10.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-12-22-14.10.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-12-22-14.10.log.html | 14:31 |
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