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| inc0 | ok since we have few people | 16:31 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 23 16:31:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:31 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:31 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:31 | |
| nihilifer | o/ | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | o/ | 16:31 |
| inc0 | hello everyone, show of hands please | 16:31 |
| elemoine | o/ | 16:31 |
| akwasnie | hi once again:) | 16:31 |
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| britthouser | 0/ | 16:32 |
| inc0 | #topic agenda | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:32 | |
| inc0 | nothing in agenda;) | 16:32 |
| inc0 | this will be short one | 16:32 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:33 | |
| Jeffrey4l | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260389/ here | 16:33 |
| nihilifer | yep, the first free topic i wanted to discuss | 16:33 |
| nihilifer | is the migration to oslo.config | 16:33 |
| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l did the awesome work on that | 16:34 |
| nihilifer | the question is whether anyone is ok with that | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | use oslo.config | 16:34 |
| inc0 | I kinda wonder if that would not be overkill | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | argparse is part of stdlib, I'd like to minimize impact required for running kolla | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | as the result of talk with nihilifer and mandre today,it is break the back compatibility now. | 16:35 |
| nihilifer | well, we require a lot of things from pip already | 16:36 |
| nihilifer | so i don't consider adding oslo.config dep a big issue | 16:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | oslo.config is a "stdlib" for openstack project. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, what besides docker-py and ansible? | 16:36 |
| nihilifer | but Jeffrey4l reminded one more problematic thing | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | almost all the project useing it. | 16:36 |
| nihilifer | inc0: Jinja2, pbr, gitdb, git, six | 16:37 |
| nihilifer | maybe not a lot | 16:37 |
| inc0 | jinja2 comes with ansible | 16:37 |
| inc0 | oslo assumes that you have most of global requirements installed, and they will freely add new dependencies | 16:38 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 16:38 |
| nihilifer | hey SamYaple | 16:38 |
| inc0 | and unless there is real benefit to it, I don't really want to add dependencies to deployment host | 16:38 |
| ajafo | o/ | 16:38 |
| inc0 | small footprint on hosts is one of our values | 16:39 |
| dims_ | inc0 : we do try to hold the line with basic libs like oslo.config and oslo.log :) | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | dims_, but thing with kolla is - we're kinda different | 16:39 |
| nihilifer | hi dims_, good to have you here :) | 16:39 |
| dims_ | inc0 : that's fair | 16:39 |
| SamYaple | id be ok with oslo.config since we have the proposal bot in place already | 16:39 |
| inc0 | we require like 5 python libs now | 16:39 |
| dims_ | not pushing for oslo.config, just making sure we understand concerns | 16:39 |
| inc0 | right now it's discussion oslo.log vs python stdlib | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | oslo.config* | 16:40 |
| dims_ | inc0 : yep, no issues using python stdlib, it's all good | 16:40 |
| SamYaple | unless there is a limitation of the standard lib, i dont see a need to change | 16:40 |
| nihilifer | oslo.config will introduce two libs more | 16:40 |
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| nihilifer | stevedore and netaddr | 16:40 |
| inc0 | I'm not against it, don't get me wrong, just thinking what's real benefit, remember it's really simple python script we're talking about | 16:41 |
| dims_ | nihilifer : we are trying to remove netaddr | 16:41 |
| nihilifer | dims_: oh, ok, nice | 16:41 |
| SamYaple | ew yea not a fan of netaddr | 16:41 |
| dims_ | blocked on some pip work with extra dependencies | 16:41 |
| SamYaple | would be great to remove that | 16:41 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, and stevedore has it's own deps | 16:41 |
| inc0 | all I'm asking is...what's the reason for change? | 16:41 |
| inc0 | apart from "openstack uses it" | 16:41 |
| dims_ | inc0 : +1 good question, | 16:41 |
| nihilifer | ok, so closing dep things https://github.com/openstack/stevedore/blob/master/requirements.txt | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | it uses what we already have | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | going to reasons | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | the first nice feature, autogenerating sample configs from code | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | oslo.config handle thing graceful. | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | so it requires less effort from developer introducing new setting | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | second nice thing | 16:42 |
| nihilifer | it already discovers where the config is | 16:43 |
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| nihilifer | whether it's /etc/ or somewhere near project cloned from git | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | are you suggesting we don't need to have /etc/kolla as a hard-unchanging-path? | 16:43 |
| nihilifer | yep | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | i like both of these things | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | this is worth pursuing for either of those reasons | 16:43 |
| * dims_ has to run. can take questions later this afternoon on #openstack-oslo :) | 16:43 | |
| nihilifer | and we can get rid of all code in kolla dealing with directory discovery | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | thanks dims_ ! | 16:44 |
| nihilifer | tha'ts the main reasom i introduced it in kolla-mesos | 16:44 |
| inc0 | thanks dims_ | 16:44 |
| nihilifer | we didn't want to write a code checking paths | 16:44 |
| inc0 | ok, you got me convinced | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | ive recently made alot of effort to remove the path things in ansible with the "simmplfy config" patch | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | so with oslo.config we can most likely remove the hard dep on /etc/kolla | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | for kolla-ansible | 16:45 |
| inc0 | yeah, I don't like us having hardcoded config path as well, we should gradually get rid of it | 16:45 |
| nihilifer | for example, we could try to get rid of using something like that https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/kolla/cmd/build.py#L242 | 16:45 |
| inc0 | same for build.py | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: i dont even have to look it up, i know that section | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | i was thinking about it as well | 16:45 |
| inc0 | ok, let's do this, thanks for clarification guys | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | +2 for proceeding from me | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | ok | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | there is a second thing in oslo.config | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | we must discuss | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | when you register cli argument "foo" | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | and it's a boolean setting | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | oslo.config automatically defines --nofoo | 16:46 |
| inc0 | aha! first make them agree then push forward! well played sir | 16:46 |
| nihilifer | as a logical negation | 16:47 |
| SamYaple | nice | 16:47 |
| SamYaple | it will change the --no-cache arg then | 16:47 |
| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l's concern was | 16:47 |
| nihilifer | whether changing --no-cache | 16:47 |
| nihilifer | to --cache | 16:47 |
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| nihilifer | and automatically generated --nocache | 16:47 |
| nihilifer | is fine for you | 16:47 |
| SamYaple | as long as the default is unchanged, i think its fine | 16:47 |
| nihilifer | it will break a backwards compatibility | 16:48 |
| inc0 | --nocache != --no-cache | 16:48 |
| nihilifer | but imo it's not huge change and benefits are better | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: not necessarily, we can put in --no-cache and deprecate it | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. it break the compatibility. | 16:48 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: --no-cache will be negated as --nono-cache | 16:48 |
| inc0 | if we add --no-cache option to oslo.config | 16:48 |
| nihilifer | that's the thing | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: i know | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | so we deprecate it | 16:48 |
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| inc0 | it will create --nono-cache right? but old --no-cache works | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | a little migration cruft we cary for a cycle | 16:49 |
| nihilifer | inc0: yes, it will create --nono-cache and there is no way to disable such a behavior in oslo.config | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | So, we will have two option? --no-cache and --cache ? with the automatically inversed `--nono-cache` and `--nocach` ? | 16:49 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, so if we do that and deprecate --no-cache | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: yea | 16:50 |
| inc0 | it will be our migration cruft | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | we deprecate --no-cache and remove it in N | 16:50 |
| nihilifer | ok | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | I agreed. | 16:50 |
| nihilifer | good to heat that you're fine with that | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | oslo.config also support the deprected thing. | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | yup :) | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | with the removal of /etc/kolla we can go full non-root | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | another thing is that `--template` options. it is a time to remove? | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep | 16:51 |
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| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: i mean we can | 16:51 |
| inc0 | yeah, we already removed non-templated dockers | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | but it hasn't been a cycle | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | so we should do it later? right? | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | it was something that was only temp in the liberty branch anyway | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | i dont think it really matters Jeffrey4l, we can leave it to be safe but if its a problem remove it | 16:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK. got it. | 16:52 |
| inc0 | I'm ok with just deleting it | 16:52 |
| nihilifer | me too | 16:52 |
| inc0 | it doesn't work anyway | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | its been a dead option for longer than it was a working one | 16:53 |
| inc0 | yup | 16:53 |
| inc0 | and it was broken in 1.0 so unless you have like mid-liberty stuff running (and I'm talking about 1 month time window) you're ok | 16:54 |
| inc0 | and if you do, well, sorry to hear that | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | i think we can move on, whats on the docket next? | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | there is another back compatility. the [kolla-build] section should be renamed to [DEFAULT]. | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | it that ok for you? | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | oh hmm | 16:54 |
| inc0 | so, config changes are different | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | can we somehow make that compatible? | 16:54 |
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| SamYaple | i know oslo supports options from different sections | 16:55 |
| inc0 | I'm -1 unless it's backward compatible | 16:55 |
| nihilifer | hmmm... we may create section [kolla-build] using oslo.config | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | agreed, we do have to be backwards compatible | 16:55 |
| nihilifer | and just leave [DEFAULT] empty | 16:55 |
| nihilifer | that's what we're doing in kolla-mesos | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: thats fine | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | we may can use deprecate session feature. | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | we could also do that, then move the options and deprecate the old spots | 16:55 |
| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l: no need for that | 16:55 |
| nihilifer | we can just create cfg.OptGroup('kolla-build') | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | s/session/section/ | 16:56 |
| nihilifer | and put all stuff there | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | there is really no wrong answer here as long as its backwards compatible | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | nihilifer, the cli will add a `--sectionname-opts` | 16:56 |
| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l: ah, you're right, sorry... | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | you can move section options though, so we can deprecate all the options out of [kolla-build] | 16:57 |
| nihilifer | ok, so i'm +1 for deprecating | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482506/ here is the reaon. | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | s/reaon/reason/ | 16:57 |
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| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l: yep, that's right | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | yea and we can deprecate that stuff out in N | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | we just have a waiting game on our hands | 16:58 |
| nihilifer | ok, so anyone is against making a deprecated [kolla-build] section and putting the stuff in [DEFAULT] too? | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | *deprecating* means it is works in both [DEFAULT] ans [kolla-build]. And should be remove in the future. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | right? | 16:59 |
| SamYaple | yes | 16:59 |
| nihilifer | yes | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | I think this is fine. | 16:59 |
| SamYaple | agreed | 16:59 |
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| nihilifer | cool. anything else to discuuss about oslo.config? | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | i have no. | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: are you taking on the work? | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | Jeffrey4l, what do u mean? | 17:01 |
| nihilifer | Jeffrey4l: whether you'll continue work on it :) | 17:01 |
| inc0 | will you do this we just talked about?;) | 17:01 |
| SamYaple | I think he is asking himself | 17:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | nihilifer, yes. | 17:01 |
| inc0 | ok, thanks! | 17:01 |
| nihilifer | cool | 17:01 |
| SamYaple | awesome then I have no futher questions your honor | 17:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | I will push a commit soon. | 17:02 |
| inc0 | so, may I take over? | 17:02 |
| nihilifer | next thing i'd like to discuss | 17:02 |
| inc0 | ok go on nihilifer | 17:02 |
| nihilifer | in kolla-mesos we're currently using docker images from here https://hub.docker.com/r/mesoscloud/ | 17:02 |
| nihilifer | to set up mesos | 17:02 |
| nihilifer | these images are outdated in terms of i.e. version of marathon | 17:03 |
| nihilifer | i took a look on images from https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/ | 17:03 |
| nihilifer | but one of them has no open repo available... | 17:03 |
| nihilifer | and mesos from mesosphere images doesn't work with docker | 17:04 |
| nihilifer | so... | 17:04 |
| nihilifer | i'd like to create own dockerfiles | 17:04 |
| inc0 | I'm ok with that | 17:04 |
| SamYaple | +2 | 17:04 |
| nihilifer | and i'm thinking about putting them into main kolla repo | 17:04 |
| inc0 | you can deploy them with kolla-ansible ;) | 17:04 |
| nihilifer | and to build them with kolla-build | 17:04 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: i am under the personal opinion that all docker files should go in kolla main repo | 17:04 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: i have same opinion | 17:05 |
| inc0 | I'm ok with having our own mesos dockerfiles | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | all deploy tools (kolla-ansible kolla-mesos kolla-kubernetes) should not have dockerfiles | 17:05 |
| inc0 | we can control version pins and everything | 17:05 |
| nihilifer | cool | 17:05 |
| inc0 | yeah we might want to deploy mesos with ansible, this wouldn't be that bad really | 17:05 |
| nihilifer | inc0: yep, we can try it | 17:06 |
| inc0 | having easy way to deploy everything from scratch would be good for kolla-mesos | 17:06 |
| nihilifer | that may help with multinode installation of mesos | 17:07 |
| inc0 | I thing currently biggest barrier of it is that you can't do something you can with kolla-ansible - deploy everything with one command | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: one question here | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | will these mesos images still be able to follwo the 1-pid per container, or would they require supervisord? | 17:07 |
| nihilifer | 1-pid per container | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | ok cool | 17:07 |
| elemoine | one image for mesos, one for marathon and one for zookeeper I guess | 17:08 |
| nihilifer | elemoine: there will be separate images for mesos-master and mesos-slave | 17:08 |
| elemoine | yeah, right | 17:08 |
| SamYaple | the zookeeper container may be useful for kolla-ansible as well | 17:09 |
| nihilifer | but yeah, zookeeper will go to the sepatate image | 17:09 |
| nihilifer | and chronos as well | 17:09 |
| nihilifer | ok, so if we're fine with that | 17:10 |
| SamYaple | alright weve got 20 minutes left and I have a subject to bring up | 17:10 |
| * britthouser hopes its mid-cycle dates | 17:10 | |
| * nihilifer hopes too | 17:10 | |
| inc0 | I lost my hopes | 17:10 |
| SamYaple | sdake was supposed to handle that a month ago. | 17:10 |
| SamYaple | where do you guys want to vote on dates? | 17:11 |
| SamYaple | ill set something up today | 17:11 |
| inc0 | whenisgood? | 17:11 |
| SamYaple | is that a website? | 17:11 |
| inc0 | http://whenisgood.net/ | 17:11 |
| SamYaple | ok ill look at that, sometime in febuary is all i know, i dont care when | 17:12 |
| SamYaple | that wasnt the subject though | 17:12 |
| britthouser | =) | 17:12 |
| inc0 | just put whole month there | 17:12 |
| SamYaple | inc0: if you know how to use that site, do you want to do that? | 17:12 |
| britthouser | the last I haerd from sdake was last week in Jan? | 17:12 |
| SamYaple | britthouser: since im hosting that date is news to me | 17:13 |
| nihilifer | britthouser: i hope no, it may collide with fosdem :( | 17:13 |
| britthouser | lol....I'll go with what you say. =) | 17:13 |
| SamYaple | ok something will go out today with dates, ill see to it personally | 17:13 |
| britthouser | thx. =) | 17:14 |
| SamYaple | Now what i wanted to talk about was named volumes with docker | 17:14 |
| SamYaple | if you use docker 1.9.x and do `docker volume ls` youll see all the volumes on your system | 17:14 |
| SamYaple | you can create named voluems as well | 17:14 |
| SamYaple | so we can actually get rid of these data containers we have | 17:14 |
| SamYaple | this doesn't require anything on the container side of things, so it shouldnt affect mesos | 17:15 |
| SamYaple | but it does mean we have to run our own docker module | 17:15 |
| britthouser | Is the named volume functionally equivalent to data container? | 17:15 |
| inc0 | http://whenisgood.net/qrb4db9 | 17:15 |
| SamYaple | britthouser: the data contaienr previously was the only way to keep track of a volume | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | this way you can name a volume and reference it by name | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | thanks inc0 looks good | 17:17 |
| inc0 | I'll pop a ML | 17:17 |
| SamYaple | inc0: do you have the address? | 17:17 |
| inc0 | and for the record, I'm +2 on our own docker module | 17:17 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, just the poll | 17:17 |
| inc0 | if you want to pop a mail with full detail | 17:18 |
| nihilifer | totally +2 for named volumes and docker module | 17:18 |
| inc0 | that will be better | 17:18 |
| inc0 | there is one big problem with our own docker module tho | 17:18 |
| SamYaple | ok well the reason i bring it up is because we can't be 1:1 with the docker module upstream which people wanted | 17:18 |
| SamYaple | i never did, but it was brought up | 17:18 |
| britthouser | Sounds like a better solution. I was just thinking about backup/upgrade/etc. Does named volume change any of that? | 17:18 |
| SamYaple | britthouser: it helps it alot, yes | 17:18 |
| inc0 | so problem is | 17:19 |
| inc0 | according to GPLv3 | 17:19 |
| inc0 | our own docker module cannot be based in any way on upstream docker module | 17:20 |
| SamYaple | it is not | 17:20 |
| SamYaple | i have written it from scratch | 17:20 |
| SamYaple | i havent even used the same arg names | 17:20 |
| inc0 | to a point that technically if someone saw original one | 17:20 |
| inc0 | he/she can't write new one as "inspiration" might also be treated as licence breakage | 17:20 |
| SamYaple | well we can just throw out all of ansible then. the only documentation for alot of the module code is lookin at other modules | 17:21 |
| inc0 | and if so, kolla will have to be turn to gplv3, which means removal from openstack namespace | 17:21 |
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| SamYaple | im not worried about this inc0. it is an original module | 17:21 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, I'm just saying how that looks like in legal eyes | 17:21 |
| SamYaple | then basically all of OSA would be gone. and Kolla to (we have code like this) | 17:22 |
| SamYaple | and any other ansible project honeslty | 17:22 |
| inc0 | all I'm saying, when we do write our own docker module, we need to be careful about that | 17:22 |
| SamYaple | even more reason to not try to 1:1 parity the options | 17:22 |
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| inc0 | yeah | 17:23 |
| SamYaple | some names overlap like 'name' or 'image' but past that its my own creation | 17:23 |
| SamYaple | I am not worried about a licensing problem, but ill make sure to not look at the docker module while writing it ;) | 17:23 |
| inc0 | yeah;) | 17:24 |
| inc0 | all is clear Sam? | 17:24 |
| inc0 | can we move on? | 17:24 |
| SamYaple | ok well the docker module is almost done, so you should see a patchset in the next few days | 17:24 |
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| SamYaple | yup im good | 17:24 |
| inc0 | cool, thanks | 17:24 |
| nihilifer | cool | 17:24 |
| inc0 | so | 17:24 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257568/ -> this is first ready play | 17:24 |
| inc0 | for upgrades | 17:24 |
| inc0 | this is keystone | 17:25 |
| inc0 | it's important as it will provide standard and template for other services | 17:25 |
| inc0 | so once again please we need as much eyes on this one as possible | 17:25 |
| inc0 | if we merge this one, I'll pop a ML thread "upgrade open season is open" | 17:26 |
| inc0 | to encourage everyone to take on one of projects and write upgrade playbook on it | 17:26 |
| inc0 | sounds good to you guys> | 17:27 |
| britthouser | Yup. | 17:27 |
| akwasnie | yes | 17:27 |
| inc0 | ok, 3 minutes left, anyone else? | 17:27 |
| britthouser | Austin Summit: looks like hotels are ready for booking | 17:27 |
| britthouser | that is all | 17:28 |
| nihilifer | quick notice | 17:28 |
| nihilifer | that i left a comment on k8s blueprint | 17:28 |
| inc0 | ah, also speaker proposal is open | 17:28 |
| nihilifer | i found a way to run bootstrap tasks in k8s | 17:28 |
| inc0 | cool! | 17:28 |
| nihilifer | so no need of chronos or involving ansible on that | 17:28 |
| inc0 | thanks | 17:29 |
| nihilifer | if Ryan will be ready, i'll be +2 for k8s | 17:29 |
| inc0 | if you want to speak about kolla, let's get more presence on this summit | 17:29 |
| britthouser | I think Mesos would make a good topic | 17:29 |
| inc0 | yeah, I'll try upgrades | 17:29 |
| britthouser | that too! | 17:30 |
| inc0 | ok guys, we ran out of time | 17:30 |
| inc0 | thanks everyone | 17:30 |
| britthouser | cya! | 17:30 |
| nihilifer | thx | 17:30 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 17:30 |
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| akwasnie | bye | 17:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 23 17:30:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-12-23-16.31.html | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-12-23-16.31.txt | 17:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-12-23-16.31.log.html | 17:30 |
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