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SukhdevFolks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting16:01
lazy_princeo/16:01
Sukhdev#startmeeting ironic_neutron16:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 11 16:01:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)"16:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron'16:01
jroll\o16:01
vsaienko\o16:01
Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:01
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_January_11.2C_201616:01
devanandao/16:02
SukhdevFolks have a look at the agenda and feel free to add anything that you would like to include16:02
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:02
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vdroko/16:02
SukhdevI do not have any announcement this morning, If you have one, please do so16:02
SukhdevIf none, lets dive into the agenda16:03
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Sukhdev#topic: Integration Status16:03
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SukhdevI started to test the solution as well16:03
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Sukhdevand noticed one issue with the API version16:03
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jrollI saw that, you just need to pass --ironic-api-version 1.1416:04
jroll(or latest)16:04
SukhdevI have added item 14 at the bottom of the etherpad -16:04
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Sukhdevjroll : you mean additional parameter to the CLI?16:04
jrollSukhdev: yes16:04
Sukhdevoh I see - cool16:05
Sukhdevthen this is not an issue :-)16:05
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yhvhexcellent :)16:05
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Sukhdevjroll : How to tell which is the latest version?16:06
jrollSukhdev: the error message tells you - also, passing the string "latest" gives you latest available16:06
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Sukhdevoh I see - something new I learned this morning16:07
SukhdevThanks jroll for clarifying16:07
jrollnp16:07
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Sukhdevother than that I do not have anything else to report on the integration testing16:07
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devanandafwiw, I wasn't able to do more testing during the last week16:08
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SukhdevI will continue to proceed and will report as I move along16:09
vdrokI've tested it in ubuntu and tried in fedora, in ubuntu everything works fine for me16:09
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vdrokthere was one issue in fedora, vsaienko fixed it already16:09
vdrokso will try once again16:10
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Sukhdevvdrok : what issue with fedora?16:11
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SukhdevWe have been testing with fedora in the past and it was working for us16:11
devanandait seems to be working for me with ubuntu w/ devstack and agent_ssh driver. my next step is trying to spin it up on hardware - but that might take a little more time - and reviewing all the code this week16:11
vdrokmac address was grepped with HWaddr16:11
vdrokwhich works in ubuntu16:11
vdrokbut in fedora it is output as ether16:11
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Sukhdevoh I see16:12
vdrokit may have been added in one of more recent vsaienko patches16:12
vsaienkosukhdev: I think you have tested patches on hardware servers right?16:13
devanandavsaienko: have there been any significant changes t othe patch chain in the last week?16:13
Sukhdevvsaienko : correct16:13
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SukhdevMy most of testing has been keeping the real world deployment scenarios in mind - which means all on real HW16:15
vsaienkodevananda: almost all changes were done at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13968716:15
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vsaienkosukhdev: could you please have look at my comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/42/ironic/networks/neutron_plugin.py16:16
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devanandavsaienko: thanks. I will review that later today16:16
jrollSukhdev: can you link me the arista ml2 thing that supports this, in case I get a free day to try this on hw?16:17
Sukhdevjroll : you need two things - latest ML2 patch, which is posted on networking_arista repo, and latest EOS image - which is not available16:18
lazy_princewell... vsaienko, that is there to help ML2 perform LAG configuration.. although we are not aiming for that in first cut...16:18
jrollSukhdev: what EOS version, in case we do have it around? :)16:18
lazy_princebut if someone wants to start early, it will help..16:19
devanandajroll: I'd like to propose a plan on how (process-wise) we land all these patches, unless you have one in mind already?16:19
* jroll also curious why switches need code updates to work with this16:19
Sukhdevvsaienko : I will review and provide the feedback16:19
jrolldevananda: fire away16:19
Sukhdevjroll : you do not have it - it is not out yet (still under test)16:19
vsaienkojroll: we can easily add support of arista switch to generic_switch driver16:19
jrollSukhdev: oh, I think we get test versions sometimes, which is why I ask16:20
devanandaI'd like to put a procedural -2 on two of the patches: the first one in the portgroup internals https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206232/51 and the first one after that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/4416:20
Sukhdevjroll : with this, we are adding native vlan support, which is presently not available16:21
Sukhdevjroll : also, it is the CVX that requires updates16:21
devanandawhen all the internal changes have enough +2's, I'll flip the -2 on the first one and land those together16:21
jrollSukhdev: aha, got it. thanks.16:21
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Sukhdevdevananda : that makes sense.16:22
devanandaand then we focus reviews on the changes after that (eg, the external-facing stuff, docs, devstack support)16:22
devanandaif at that point we discover that we need to change internals, it's less to rebase16:22
jrolldevananda: I tend to think the API patch is 'external facing'16:22
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devanandajroll: definitely agree. can we disable the visibility of that change, or move it to the end of the first set of patches?16:23
jrolldevananda: yeah, we could switch it with the "net" patch16:24
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devanandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/44 also has an API change16:24
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jrollright, but that's part of the 'external' patches you pointed out16:24
devanandayah16:25
devanandaok, so three phases16:25
devananda1. internal changes16:25
devananda2. API changes16:25
devananda3. devstack changes16:25
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jrollsounds good16:25
devanandavsaienko: can you rebase the patches into that order?16:25
jrollthough I wouldn't block 3, we should land those quickly16:25
jrollalso16:26
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vsaienkodevananda: sure16:26
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jroll4. docs? or 3. docs 4. devstack?16:26
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devananda3. api and docs?16:26
devanandaer, 216:26
yhvhand client?16:26
jroll++16:26
jrollclient should land just after api, I guess16:26
devanandatempest test support for the API changes is needed too16:26
killer_princeor probably together..16:27
devanandawhich, now that we're moving to tempestlib, should get added to ironic (not tempest)16:27
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SukhdevM1 is this week some time, right?16:28
Sukhdevcan we get all the internal patches merged this week?16:28
jrollM2 is next week16:29
Sukhdevah good - few more days :-)16:29
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SukhdevAnything else we need to discuss about patches or integration testing?16:30
SukhdevAnybody else has anything to share about their testing?16:30
devanandawe need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252814/ to land16:30
devanandaso that we can test the patch chains in the gate prior to landing them16:30
jroll+116:30
devanandaexperimental pipeline is fine for now -- but the job needs to exist and needs to pass16:31
jrolldevananda: I kind of wanted to get eyes on some of the devstack work, so we don't end up needing to change variables in that patch later16:31
jroll[/b 5716:31
jrolloops16:31
devanandajroll: I agree, except, isn't that moving into ironic's tree?16:31
jrolldevananda: project-config?16:31
devanandadevstack work16:31
jrollthe devstack patches are in our tree16:31
jrollbut I don't want to add the job16:31
devanandaoh?16:31
jrolland then have someone say "well let's s/NETWORK/NET everywhere"16:32
jrollyes, they are proposed to the ironic tree16:32
devanandaright16:32
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devanandaactually, I was thinking of tempest just now. we're moving ironic to tempest-lib16:32
devanandajroll: how soon do you think that migration will be complete?16:33
jrolldevananda: the patch moving the tests had 2x +2 before I updated for pep816:33
jrollso, today if I can get reviews on it :)16:33
devanandalet's get thta landed ASAP then. like today16:33
devanandaand then move the portgroup-api tempest changes into our tree16:33
jrollyep16:34
jrollwe could even put them in the same patch as the api changes \o/16:34
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devanandawat? :-)16:34
devanandabut yes, that is what we should do16:35
jrollyeah16:35
Sukhdevjroll : going back to your earlier comment - just to make sure I understood - in order to land the project-config patch, you need to review devstack patches or get them merged?16:36
jrollSukhdev: we need to review the devstack patches enough to say the variables here won't change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252814/1/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml16:37
jrollit's probably fine but I could see someone -1'ing IRONIC_LLC_ENABLED, for example16:37
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Sukhdevah I see -16:38
vsaienkojroll: I have a question about generic_switch driver16:38
jrollyes/16:38
vsaienkocurrently devstack relies on it, is it possible to create a repo at openstack.org for it?16:38
jrollyes it's possible16:39
jrollthat's your repo right?16:39
vsaienkoright16:39
jrolljust follow http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html16:39
vsaienkojroll: I'll prepare all necessary patches for it16:39
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jrollvsaienko: cool, thanks16:40
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Sukhdevyuriy - are you here?16:40
Sukhdevvsaienko : do you know if yuriy was able to make progress on the tempest scenario testing patch?16:42
vsaienkosukhdev: he told me that patch is working, and he will move it to devstack repo16:43
Sukhdevexcellent16:43
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Sukhdevthanks16:43
Sukhdevvsaienko : please have him add a link to the etherpad as well (or update it)16:44
vsaienkook16:44
Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:44
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SukhdevI think we covered all the agenda items - anything else we want to discuss?16:45
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Sukhdevjroll, devananda : I see +2's on the patches, they need +1 on work flows16:45
jrollSukhdev: re-read devananda's earlier proposal about landing things together16:46
Sukhdevperhaps based upon ordering we discussed earlier we start landing them16:46
Sukhdev:-)16:46
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sambettsI wanted to bring up the inspector lldp work thats going on, there are a couple of comments on it that I think need a look in by the rest of the neutron-ironic devs is you've got some cycles16:46
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yhvhThe intern I have working on that has exams this week16:47
yhvhhe is making decent progress16:47
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Sukhdevyhvh : are you targeting it for M or N release?16:48
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sambettsthe current logic for it seems to imply that all the switch information set via lldp information will be the same among vendors, are we expecting to have a generic data and let the ml2 driver convert it to vendor specific or process the lldp data into vendor specific data stored in ironic16:49
yhvhsambetts: yes I saw this comment, makes sense16:49
yhvhSukhdev: just asap16:50
Sukhdevsambetts: the idea is that provide enough flexibility so that vendors can stuff information into these fields in such a way that they have appropriate information their ML2 drivers to provision the switches16:51
sambettsI've had a few discussions about the lldp with others and we think that having the ramdisk return the whole lldp packet and having vendor specific lldp inspector processing plugins makes the most sense to us, does this make sense?16:51
sambettsthen the vendors can put these plugins whereever they want, even store them in networking-* as they are quite closely related to their ml2 drivers16:52
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Sukhdevsambetts : you are referring to local_link_information, right?16:53
Sukhdevlldp is widely deployed, and hence, does provide great automation - hence, we had proposed to use this model -16:54
Sukhdevbut, only for the mac addresses format for the switch-id, discovered through inspecter16:55
sambettsyeah, so switch_id, port_id etc could be different per vendor, e.g. we (Cisco) will most likely be using the management address as the id for the switch16:55
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Sukhdevsambetts : management address represented in mac address format, right?16:55
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sambettsno IP address, because thats how our ml2 driver identifies switches16:56
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Sukhdevsambetts : there are two fields - switch ID and switch Info - the IP address can go into switch info, which does not have to conform to mac address format (it is just a string16:57
sambettsbut then switch-id is a dead field to us16:57
Sukhdevthe switch-id is in a mac address format16:57
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Sukhdevsambetts : oh I see -16:58
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jrollyeah, mac address as switch id is odd to me16:58
sambettswe also talked about using a dns name in that field16:58
Sukhdevsambetts : we may have to make one change to accomodate it then16:59
jrollsambetts: our downstream networks code uses hostnames there16:59
Sukhdevsambetts : we can make both switch id and info as strings16:59
Sukhdevsambetts : since we are running out of time, let me put this on agenda Item for next week's meeting17:00
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yhvhto nitpick switch_id is a mac or openflow datapathID17:00
Sukhdevsambetts: lets discuss and get a closure on this in next meeting then17:00
SukhdevFolks, we are out of time -17:00
sambettsOk, thanks this will be a great help17:00
SukhdevI will add this to the agenda for next week and discuss it then17:01
SukhdevThanks for attending17:01
Sukhdevbye17:01
Sukhdev#endmeeting17:01
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