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| banix | hi Kuryr crowd! | 03:01 |
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| baohua | +1 | 03:02 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi | 03:02 |
| vikasc | hi banix | 03:02 |
| baohua | good evening and morning, everyone~ | 03:02 |
| banix | #startmeeting kuryr | 03:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 03:02:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is banix. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:02 |
| kexiaodong | hi | 03:02 |
| banix | baohua: fawadkhaliq vikasc kexiaodong hi | 03:03 |
| banix | lets’ wait for a minute and then get started | 03:03 |
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| baohua | sure, what's the topic today? not see the agenda | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kuryr#Meeting_January_11.2C_2015 | 03:04 |
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| banix | thanks Taku | 03:04 |
| baohua | thanks, taku | 03:04 |
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| banix | So I have put a few topics on teh Agenda but we can discuss others as well | 03:04 |
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| banix | #topic IPAM | 03:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IPAM (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:05 | |
| banix | I think we got several IPAM patches merged | 03:05 |
| vikasc | yes banix ,, | 03:05 |
| banix | thanks to vikasc | 03:05 |
| banix | I ran into a problem testing today and opens a bug for it | 03:05 |
| vikasc | i have pushed some more minor fixes in ipam | 03:05 |
| vikasc | i pushed a fix for that too..but saw your mail now.. will try to optimize it | 03:06 |
| banix | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr/+bug/1532982 | 03:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1532982 in kuryr "list ports with specific fixed ip" [High,In progress] - Assigned to vikas choudhary (choudharyvikas16) | 03:06 |
| vikasc | banix, thanks for suggesting logic | 03:06 |
| banix | vikasc: ok thanks I will check your patches; | 03:06 |
| banix | we should increase the test coverage so we can catch these | 03:07 |
| vikasc | in coming days, i will target that | 03:07 |
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| banix | Another thing I am noticing and I may be doing something wrong is that I dont see ipam being called for allocating IP address | 03:07 |
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| banix | vikasc: is there something wrt configuration that needs to be done? | 03:08 |
| vikasc | are u using --ipam-driver option? | 03:08 |
| baohua | vikasc, we may add to doc to call --ipam-driver to issue docker command. | 03:08 |
| vikasc | yesterday only i tested | 03:08 |
| vikasc | baohua, its there in devref | 03:09 |
| banix | vikasc: can you paste a sample call here please | 03:09 |
| vikasc | one moment | 03:09 |
| baohua | yes, but too few info now in the doc, i'm thinking adding more steps there. | 03:09 |
| banix | or a link to the devref | 03:09 |
| banix | vikasc: thank you | 03:09 |
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| vikasc | banix, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248010/ | 03:10 |
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| banix | vikasc: others, anything else ypu want discussed regarding IPAM here? | 03:10 |
| vikasc | baohua, please provide your review comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248010/ | 03:10 |
| baohua | sure, reading it these days :) | 03:11 |
| vikasc | baohua, thanks :) | 03:11 |
| banix | all please review the IPAM patches | 03:11 |
| baohua | +1 | 03:12 |
| banix | ok moving on | 03:12 |
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| banix | #topic testing | 03:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:12 | |
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| banix | i dont think gal is around. baohua, how are things on that front? | 03:13 |
| baohua | i'm adding ci testing on container operations, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265105/ | 03:13 |
| vikasc | baohua, may be we can discus scope thing here | 03:13 |
| baohua | gal just update his part on the netwroks. | 03:13 |
| baohua | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259751/ | 03:14 |
| baohua | sure, vikasc | 03:14 |
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| banix | vikasc: one second please | 03:14 |
| vikasc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264653/ | 03:14 |
| vikasc | banix, sure | 03:15 |
| banix | baohua: can you tell us more about what the plan is | 03:15 |
| banix | wrt testing that is | 03:15 |
| banix | what are the next steps, etc | 03:15 |
| baohua | we start at basic network operations like create/delete, and will write the container operations part in next step. | 03:15 |
| banix | these are functional test? | 03:16 |
| baohua | no, this ci testing will call local docker api to do real actions. | 03:16 |
| banix | these are for testing at the gate? | 03:17 |
| baohua | currently it can be used at the gate, as fullstack testing. | 03:17 |
| banix | are Rally tests in the plan? | 03:18 |
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| baohua | the rally tests is not started yet, we can discuss it more with gal | 03:18 |
| banix | The question as to where they should reside are still under discussion? | 03:19 |
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| baohua | actually there already exist some code under rally-jobs | 03:20 |
| vikasc | banix, can you please elaborate "where should they reside" | 03:20 |
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| baohua | but i do not think the scope is clear enough | 03:20 |
| banix | last week it was questioned whether we should have these tests in the Rally repo or in the Kuryr repo | 03:20 |
| vikasc | banix, okie | 03:20 |
| fawadkhaliq | gsagie was going to start a discussion on ML for this | 03:21 |
| baohua | not sure, but currently it's under kuryr | 03:21 |
| banix | ok. baohua how can we speed up the test coverage from the full stack testing to more? | 03:21 |
| fawadkhaliq | there are pros and cons for both. but the final call needs to be made. | 03:21 |
| banix | Do you need help with reviews? Anything else? | 03:21 |
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| banix | fawadkhaliq: I agree. Gal mentioned about sending an email to the dev list. I am not sure if he got to it or not | 03:22 |
| baohua | oh, on the full testing, still working on updating the code, will send invitation later | 03:22 |
| baohua | gal says he is on trip this week | 03:22 |
| banix | baohua: ok thanks. Since we want to get to a reasonable state by the end of this cycle, we should make sure we increase or test coverage. | 03:23 |
| banix | Anything else regarding testing? | 03:23 |
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| banix | vikasc: please go ahead wrt capabilities | 03:24 |
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| vikasc | baohua pushed a patch for changing scope to local | 03:25 |
| vikasc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264653/ | 03:25 |
| vikasc | default scope | 03:25 |
| vikasc | because if scope is global, etcd/db configuration is required | 03:26 |
| vikasc | with devstack it works | 03:26 |
| banix | i see | 03:26 |
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| banix | so dont we do the testing at the gate with devstack? | 03:26 |
| vikasc | should we just update manual installation steps or go ahead with this patch | 03:26 |
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| vikasc | baohua, can better update | 03:27 |
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| baohua | sure, the problem is clear here. should we enable db backend as default requirement | 03:27 |
| baohua | if so, we may need to update the doc to add those steps | 03:28 |
| baohua | please help add your comments on that patch :) | 03:28 |
| banix | ok sounds good | 03:28 |
| vikasc | need to go off for couple of minures | 03:28 |
| banix | moving on | 03:28 |
| vikasc | *minutes | 03:28 |
| banix | #topic Kubernetes Integration | 03:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kubernetes Integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:28 | |
| banix | We need irenab for this topic | 03:29 |
| banix | irenab: are you around by any chance? | 03:29 |
| tfukushima | banix: I heard irenab got sick. | 03:30 |
| banix | tfukushima: ahh. sorry to hear that | 03:30 |
| baohua | sorry for that too | 03:30 |
| banix | k8s and docker communities seem to have different views of how networking is to be done… we can discuss further next week | 03:31 |
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| tfukushima | I worked on this with Neutron actually as the PoC. | 03:31 |
| banix | tfukushima: please go ahead | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | I confirmed pods can communicate over VXLAN with that test network plugin. | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | On each node K8s delegate the private IP allocation to Docker and the plugin read the info through the Docker client library, py-docker. | 03:32 |
| banix | tfukushima: which plugin you are referring to? | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | It creates a network, subnets and ports as Kuryr does. | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | banix: The network plugin. But at this point I'm not leveraging Kuryr legitimately as the libaray. | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | I used some code though. | 03:33 |
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| banix | tfukushima: k8s plugin? | 03:34 |
| banix | libnetwork plugin? | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | A network plugin for K8s. | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | #link network plugin spec for K8s https://godoc.org/github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/pkg/kubelet/network/exec | 03:34 |
| banix | i see | 03:34 |
| vikasc | thanks tfukushima | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | It's not compatible with CNI at this point. | 03:34 |
| banix | tfukushima: thanks for the link | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | I needed to add subnets on different hosts to a router. And then the pods on the different hosts could communicate each other. | 03:35 |
| banix | tfukushima: so is this utilizing kuryr? or independent of it? | 03:36 |
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| tfukushima | It's independent because Kuryr's code is strongly assuming the libnetwrok model and we need to make its logic more modular. | 03:36 |
| banix | tfukushima: yeah that’s the main point of divergence | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | For instance, libnetwork has several steps for connecting the container to the network but K8s has two notion, setup and teeardown. | 03:38 |
| banix | yup | 03:38 |
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| vikasc | tfukushima, is not CNI same to k8s what libnetwork is for docker? | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | It's going to be at the end but it'd be introduced in 1.2, which is not released yet. | 03:39 |
| vikasc | so current k8s dont use CNI? | 03:39 |
| tfukushima | It's very similar in my opinion but they're different technically. | 03:40 |
| tfukushima | #link CNI discussion on K8s https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/pull/14525 | 03:40 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, similar in the way that provides way to use different plugins and different in apis? | 03:41 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, thanks for the link tfukushima | 03:41 |
| vikasc | similar in the way that both provides way to use different plugins and different in apis? | 03:42 |
| banix | still evolving wrt plugin architecture as I understand it | 03:42 |
| banix | #topic Open Discussion | 03:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:43 | |
| banix | Anything else we want to discuss now? | 03:43 |
| baohua | y | 03:43 |
| baohua | anyone can help review on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264531/ | 03:43 |
| vikasc | baohua, sure | 03:43 |
| baohua | we'd better make the doc part more formated and detailed. | 03:43 |
| baohua | thanks vikasc | 03:43 |
| banix | sure | 03:44 |
| baohua | thanks banix | 03:44 |
| banix | fawadkhaliq: Fawad I recall you having an action item from last weelk? | 03:44 |
| baohua | recently seems the review process is not that agile :) | 03:44 |
| fawadkhaliq | banix: yes, its around magnum integration and nested containers | 03:44 |
| fawadkhaliq | Its in progress | 03:44 |
| fawadkhaliq | I have started working on the design | 03:44 |
| banix | ok, may be update us next week? | 03:45 |
| fawadkhaliq | absolutely | 03:45 |
| banix | fawadkhaliq: thanks | 03:45 |
| banix | so let’s cleanup and finish the IPAM patches :) vikasc please ping me and i try to be responsive | 03:46 |
| vikasc | sure banix | 03:46 |
| banix | vikasc: what time zone are you at? what time is it right now? | 03:46 |
| vikasc | 9:16 AM | 03:46 |
| vikasc | india | 03:46 |
| banix | vikasc: ok and I am at 10:46pm | 03:47 |
| banix | will try to be available in the morning and at night | 03:47 |
| vikasc | banix, appreciate that. | 03:47 |
| banix | vikasc: thanks you | 03:47 |
| banix | thanks everybody | 03:47 |
| vikasc | banix, thanks | 03:47 |
| banix | we managed to finish the meeting early! | 03:48 |
| baohua | thanks everyone | 03:48 |
| vikasc | :) | 03:48 |
| fawadkhaliq | bye! | 03:48 |
| vikasc | bye evryone | 03:48 |
| banix | see you next wek and online in the mean time | 03:48 |
| tfukushima | Thanks, guys. | 03:48 |
| banix | bye | 03:48 |
| banix | #endmeeting | 03:48 |
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| baohua | bye :) | 03:48 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 03:48:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-12-03.02.html | 03:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-12-03.02.txt | 03:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-12-03.02.log.html | 03:48 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy Glance Drivers' meeting reminder: nikhil_k, flaper87, sigmavirus24, rosmaita, mclaren, dhellmann, jokke_,kragniz | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance Drivers | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 14:04:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers)" | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | ops, lost track of time! | 14:04 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | sorry about that folks | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | Anyone around for the drivers meeting? | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | I know nikhil has an overlapping meeting | 14:04 |
| * jokke_ is lurking here | 14:05 | |
| * kragniz lurks | 14:05 | |
| * flaper87 will lurk w/ jokke_ and kragniz if no one shows up | 14:05 | |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:05 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i see in #openstack-glance that nikhil said we can assign him action items | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | we can't pass up that opportunity! | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ++ | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | w000h00 | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | so, assign all the things to nick-ma | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | ops | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | #action nikhil to guarantee world peace | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | we're done! That will keep him busy | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | :D | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | anyway, there's just one item and we could use ativelkov and jokke_ feedback here | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248681/ | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | kairat: sent an exception request for that spec | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | we're psat the exception request week | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | but I thought I'd bring him it up anyway as that spec helps completing the trusts work | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | hey! we want it be merged :) | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | it's the second part that implements trusts in Swift driver | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: right but the deadline was last week :( I know you were on holidays and I'm taking that under consideration | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | and the fact that the spec freeze fell right during the new year's eve week | 14:09 |
| mclaren | I also have something I'd like considered for FFE fwiw | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | maybe we can do an exception | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: oh hello | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:09 |
| * flaper87 hugs mclaren | 14:09 | |
| mfedosin | because Stuart needs it for his work too | 14:09 |
| * flaper87 won't let go | 14:09 | |
| mclaren | heh | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | hi Stuart :) | 14:10 |
| mclaren | howdy | 14:10 |
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| mfedosin | I want to hug you too | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: mclaren thoughts on extending the exception week till friday ? | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i think kairat | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: ref 248681 I don't see mattoliverau nor anyone else from swift team (who are the current maintainers of that driver) even in the spec reviewers | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | s spec looks good | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: get out, he's mine | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | hmm | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | >.> | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i think kairat's spec looks good | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | I'd like to see their input before considering jumping in and refactoring it a lot | 14:10 |
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| rosmaita | i don't have a problem with extending the exception week | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: good point. I'll add him | 14:11 |
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| mfedosin | code is done, btw | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | ok, let's extend the exception week till friday and evaluate requests individually | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:12 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: mclaren please, update specs if needed and lets jump on crazy support mode on those specs | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | If they are swift related, let's ask for mattoliverau's feedback | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: which is the spec you want an exception for? | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | I know, I know, I know | 14:12 |
| mclaren | same one as last time ;-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170564/ | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | but I don't have a link | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170564/ | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | mclaren: could you send an email out asking for the SFE ? | 14:14 |
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| mclaren | sure, np | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: awesome! thanks | 14:14 |
| mclaren | are there two in total? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170564/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248681/ (I missed the start, sorry) | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | yes | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | awesome | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | that's all I have | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | anything else folks want to discuss? | 14:15 |
| ativelkov | I do! :) | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I'll go through lite-specs myself and bring things up as needed | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: shoot | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: want to help with world peace as well? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: is on it but I'm sure he won't mind if you help | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | I wonder what's the fate of the Glare specs :) They obviously felt under the spec freeze (since we couldn't get much feedback on the API part), but I want them to continue moving anyways | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | we need people working on world peace in all time zones | 14:16 |
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| ativelkov | since we have the FastTrack for the glare commits, may we have some special handling for glare specs as well? | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | (and since the artifacts are quite universal, I am pretty sure we can implement the World Peace with them, if needed) | 14:18 |
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| mclaren | you mean openstack/glare? [ducks] | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | nope, I mean glance/artifacts :) | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | mmh, I don't want to block Glare so, I think, during Mitaka, it should be fine to keep the fasttrack | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | However, I'd like us to work together on revisiting how things are being done on the glare side | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | Specifically, I'm wondering how we can spread the knowledge of Glare across the team | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure other glance folks won't contribute as much as we might want to glare while the fasttrack is in place | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | Anyway, we need to move V3 -> glare | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | if you need an exception for the Glare API, please send an email out | 14:20 |
| ativelkov | Yup, and the second part of that spec got frozen as well | 14:20 |
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| flaper87 | Let's follow the process as for every other spec | 14:21 |
| mclaren | out of interest, did we ever think about the proc/cons of having the two clients integrated versus seperating them out? | 14:21 |
| ativelkov | mclaren: I believe that was discucced in Tokyo, but quite briefly | 14:21 |
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| mclaren | ok, just curious | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yeah, we talked about that and the feedback was that one would be better | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | I think it was in the same glare session | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | fwiw | 14:24 |
| * flaper87 will get the etherpad link | 14:24 | |
| flaper87 | anyway, anything else? | 14:24 |
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| flaper87 | oke dokey, I'll take that as no | 14:25 |
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| flaper87 | take care everyone! Thanks for the feedbakc | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | feedback, even | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 14:25:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2016/glance_drivers.2016-01-12-14.04.html | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2016/glance_drivers.2016-01-12-14.04.txt | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | Thanks! | 14:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2016/glance_drivers.2016-01-12-14.04.log.html | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | stuart: you got a minute? | 14:26 |
| mclaren | sure | 14:26 |
| mclaren | -> openstack-glance? | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | let's go to openstack-glance | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | what you said | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 15:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda URL: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160112 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| chem | o/ | 15:00 |
| aderyugin | hi | 15:00 |
| clayton | o/ | 15:00 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:01 |
| degorenko | hey o/ | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | hey | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past action items | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | the only action we haven't updated yet is " consider a rewrite design for https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1506066 " | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506066 in puppet-nova "Scope-related warnings from nova::vncproxy::common" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Nate Potter (ntpttr) | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | nate potter is around? | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: I guess we haven't found time on it right? | 15:02 |
| mwhahaha | no | 15:02 |
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| richm | hello | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | ok no prob | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | we'll postpone it | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | ok let's start the agenda | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | #action postpone consider a rewrite design for https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1506066 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506066 in puppet-nova "Scope-related warnings from nova::vncproxy::common" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Nate Potter (ntpttr) | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Virtual sprint agenda / work items | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | so for those who'll attend it | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #link sprint agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-happy-new-year-2016 | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | we have some topics, maybe we could just put a name on each so we have a point of contact | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | I volunteer to lead Reno (release management) work | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | we have a topic for Mitaka deprecations & removals | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | regading the color I'm not sure who wrote it, maybe mfisch or degorenko | 15:06 |
| degorenko | i can help mfisch if he needs help :) | 15:06 |
| degorenko | it was mfisch :D | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | we also have bug triage | 15:07 |
| clayton | mfisch said to say he's running late | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | clayton: cool! thanks to let us know | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: maybe you can lead the deprecation thing and mfisch the bug triage like usual? | 15:08 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, ok, no problem | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | we have an item for having real CI on our puppet-openstack-cookiecutter CI | 15:09 |
| _ody | I've got other things I could do but think Reno just needs to happen so I am happy to just follow someone on that. | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | _ody: please suggest the other things! | 15:10 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, +++1 for real ci for cookiecutter :) | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | _ody: you can use the etherpad maybe | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | who is volunteer to lead the puppet-openstack-cookiecutter work? | 15:10 |
| degorenko | for last time we already have a few new modules and we faced with some problems, so real ci will really help | 15:10 |
| richm | will there be cookies? | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | richm: I'll send them to your place, yeah | 15:11 |
| degorenko | and milk :) | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | nobody? | 15:12 |
| degorenko | i can do it :D | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: well, you already have an item | 15:12 |
| degorenko | i can help somebody :) | 15:12 |
| chem | I can give it a shot | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | chem: cool! so the idea is to have a CI job that generate a module and run unit & functional tests | 15:13 |
| chem | EmilienM: ack | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | because for now, puppet-openstack-cookiecutte is running noop jobs | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | which is useless | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | chem: are you familiar with openstack-infra? | 15:13 |
| chem | will need help on this side | 15:13 |
| mwhahaha | i can help with the ci for cookiecutter | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | nibalizer is infra core and can help a lot | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha, chem : ok I put your names | 15:13 |
| chem | oki thanks :) | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | and we have a last item for puppet-ceph CI | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | I think xarses (offline) is the best guy to lead it | 15:14 |
| degorenko | agree | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | feel free to contact him if you're interested to hack on it | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | I think we're good for the agenda, _ody feel free to add more topics, but asap so we can groom and find people working on it | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | #action _ody complete sprint agenda with more topics if needed | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | anything else for the sprint? any question? | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | let's move ahead then | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #topic OpenStack client for nova providers | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: o/ | 15:17 |
| degorenko | yep :) | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226862/ | 15:17 |
| degorenko | want discuss acceptance for my patch | 15:17 |
| degorenko | there is sometime failures | 15:18 |
| degorenko | because in each run we can have different order for resources | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | random failures? | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: that's something you can fix in your types, right? | 15:18 |
| degorenko | well | 15:19 |
| degorenko | i'm not sure about fixing it in types | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: can you give more context? | 15:19 |
| degorenko | but as way, it can be, yes | 15:19 |
| degorenko | let me sec | 15:19 |
| degorenko | we can use requires in types, but it will not work, if we want run it separatly from deployment | 15:20 |
| degorenko | is it ok? | 15:20 |
| degorenko | so, we can use some require for nova | 15:20 |
| degorenko | but we can't use require on keystone | 15:21 |
| degorenko | only if in acceptance file require for resource in place | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | autorequire will find the resource in the catalog | 15:21 |
| degorenko | yes, but if we will deploy nova in one node and keystone on another one - it will not work | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | yep | 15:22 |
| _ody | ...and autorequires will only set up the relationship if it finds the resources | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | right, it won't fail if no find | 15:22 |
| degorenko | so, failures here are: can't find nova package/api whatever | 15:22 |
| degorenko | or, keystone api is not available | 15:22 |
| degorenko | the second one is more important | 15:22 |
| _ody | ah, different problem. | 15:22 |
| degorenko | because we can use cross project autorequire | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | that's why healthcheck would be a nice use case here | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | we discussed that at the summit | 15:22 |
| degorenko | well, yes | 15:23 |
| degorenko | but we don't have it now :D | 15:23 |
| degorenko | as workaround we can use autorequire for nova in types | 15:23 |
| degorenko | and require for keystone in acceptance | 15:23 |
| degorenko | is it ok? | 15:23 |
| degorenko | require for nova_aggregate resource only, of course | 15:24 |
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| _ody | seems fine | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 15:24 |
| _ody | the latter issue is a puppet problem | 15:24 |
| degorenko | ok, that's all what i want to know :) i'll update my patch | 15:24 |
| _ody | it is after the new year...time to start bugging product about application orchestrator againg | 15:25 |
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| _ody | (also another way to fix the split node issue) | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: is it open-source? | 15:26 |
| _ody | it is suppose to be. I have need to bug them about release dates again now that we are in the new year. | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | we need something that people can use without puppet master, without hiera and on Puppet 3 or 4 | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | well puppet master is another story though | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage | 15:27 |
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| EmilienM | submit modules to triage here | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | degorenko and chem submitted bunch of patches | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | you want to discuss? | 15:28 |
| chem | yep | 15:28 |
| degorenko | no, just some of them stucked :) | 15:28 |
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| degorenko | because of ci or anything else | 15:28 |
| chem | this one is critical and stuck "Neutron parses the wrong json revert to shell/csv." | 15:28 |
| mfisch | here finally | 15:28 |
| mfisch | commute took forever | 15:28 |
| chem | I got a -1 from Sergey Valsilenko, but I'm not sure he got why I did the patch | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: do we have acceptance for murano? | 15:29 |
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| degorenko | EmilienM, not for dashboard | 15:29 |
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| degorenko | because of lack this package in repos | 15:29 |
| degorenko | for liberty though | 15:29 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254181/ is not good | 15:30 |
| degorenko | oops, missed it :) | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | someone has to investigate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242718/ | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | it fails | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | I can look later though | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | but failure on gate-tripleo-ci-f22-nonha is not something we need to consider "normal" | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | #link TripleO CI status http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html | 15:32 |
| degorenko | but it always failed actually for this patch | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | so the patch has something :) | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | http://logs.openstack.org/18/242718/19/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-f22-nonha/2c65c80/console.html#_2016-01-12_10_06_03_556 | 15:33 |
| degorenko | that's strange | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | it's obvious it breaks tripleo, glance does not look started | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | let's look at overcloud logs | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | undercloud sorry | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | I'll take it offline | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | anything else for today? | 15:34 |
| chem | well the patch about neutron | 15:34 |
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| chem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262809/ | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | chem: Sergey does not seem online now, damn | 15:34 |
| chem | ack, I will have to discuss with him at some point | 15:35 |
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| degorenko | xenolog - offline :( | 15:35 |
| mattymo | degorenko, I sit near him.. he's in another meeting | 15:35 |
| mattymo | can you guys discuss after the meeting with him? | 15:35 |
| chem | basically neutron is currently broken, waiting secretly to blow off | 15:35 |
| degorenko | oh, thanks | 15:35 |
| chem | EmilienM: what is Sergey nick ? | 15:36 |
| degorenko | chem, xenolog | 15:36 |
| degorenko | as i mentioned above :) | 15:36 |
| chem | ah, oki, make sense | 15:36 |
| aglarendil | chem: well, I can be an avatar of Sergey today, because I agree with him | 15:37 |
| aglarendil | his nick is @xenolog, btw | 15:37 |
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| chem | aglarendil: the problem is not json or not json, the problem is wrong json | 15:37 |
| aglarendil | why would we revert the patch instead of fixing the output format in json parser? | 15:37 |
| chem | aglarendil: cannot be done | 15:37 |
| chem | aglarendil: you have to parse 2 json output | 15:37 |
| chem | aglarendil: and one of them is a bug | 15:38 |
| aglarendil | chem so you mean that neutron server returns some of the stuff in one format and some of the stuff in another format ? | 15:38 |
| mwhahaha | yea it has to do with the available json formatters on the system, right? | 15:38 |
| chem | aglarendil: it depends on the order of the json plugin load | 15:38 |
| chem | aglarendil: mwhahaha yep | 15:39 |
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| aglarendil | so is it possible to somehow detect which format we are dealing with and use the right parser? | 15:39 |
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| chem | aglarendil: rather difficult | 15:39 |
| chem | aglarendil: and you have to support 2 parser | 15:39 |
| chem | aglarendil: the Field, Value and the plain json | 15:40 |
| chem | aglarendil: they don't have the same start tag neither, so output detection is going to be hairy as well | 15:40 |
| aglarendil | well, can we just fix neutron? for example, add an option to request particular format? | 15:40 |
| chem | aglarendil: cannot be done neither ... | 15:40 |
| clayton | even if you could, how likely would it be to be merged for mitaka? And that doesn't help for backports | 15:41 |
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| chem | aglarendil: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/083172.html | 15:41 |
| chem | aglarendil: it's done automatically by a plugin and depend on ... inode number or something :) | 15:41 |
| chem | aglarendil: not user configurable | 15:42 |
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| EmilienM | +1 with clayton, we need a workaround in puppet-neutron I guess | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | we need to help neutron upstream to be fixed but in the meantime workaround in our module. | 15:43 |
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| chem | for mitaka, clifftab dependency is going to disapear from openstackclient dependency and the neutron module will be broken | 15:43 |
| chem | as it parse json from clifftab | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | chem: it's already broken, see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-ci-mitaka | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | scenario002 on trusty | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | failing to manage neutron subnets | 15:44 |
| chem | EmilienM: that's normal | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | not sure that's 100% related but it might be | 15:44 |
| mwhahaha | so we switched away from csv for a reason, are we going to be reintroducing the issue by going back? | 15:44 |
| xarses | mwhahaha: yes | 15:44 |
| chem | cliff json != clifftab json | 15:44 |
| chem | for me it break idempotency | 15:44 |
| xarses | the csv order changed and was not guaranteed | 15:44 |
| chem | but creation is still ok | 15:44 |
| aglarendil | yeah, I read that already. so, I would pass the stuff we discussed to Sergey. I guess there is currently no way than to go with revert until neutron itself is fixed. | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | right, it tried to create again | 15:45 |
| xarses | can we at least use a CSV parser instead of regex? | 15:45 |
| chem | EmilienM: that's the behavior with the broken parser. | 15:45 |
| chem | xarses: the csv parser is used | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | chem: cool so I confirmed the bug with mitaka packaging :) | 15:45 |
| chem | EmilienM: not packaging, packaging is ok | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | chem: this ? http://logs.openstack.org/35/255635/15/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-scenario002-tempest-dsvm-trusty/ca1990b/console.html#_2016-01-12_01_32_00_817 | 15:46 |
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| chem | xarses: the regex is there to differenciate the error the client can output from the beginning of the real output | 15:46 |
| chem | xarses: the same kind of stuff is used currently | 15:46 |
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| chem | EmilienM: looking | 15:47 |
| chem | EmilienM: exactly | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | ok cool | 15:47 |
| chem | EmilienM: packager have remove clifftab as it's no longer required by openstackclient | 15:47 |
| chem | see it requirements.txt | 15:47 |
| chem | see its requirements.txt | 15:47 |
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| chem | EmilienM: or if it's still there it's just that the cliff parser is loaded after the clifftab parser | 15:48 |
| chem | EmilienM: random :) | 15:48 |
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| mwhahaha | so the original bug was due to warning screwing up parsing | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | should I test again with your patch in Depends-On and see how it behaves? | 15:49 |
| mwhahaha | https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-neutron/+bug/1508511 | 15:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508511 in puppet-neutron "providers, like neutron_network, neutron_subnet, fails if Neutron CLI throw warnings" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Sergey Vasilenko (xenolog) | 15:49 |
| chem | mwhahaha: this is fixed there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263874/3 | 15:49 |
| chem | mwhahaha: on top of the revert | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | chem: can I try with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263874/3 or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262809/2 is enough? | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | I guess https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263874/3 is the one to test | 15:50 |
| mwhahaha | sure as long as we make sure not to reintroduce that bug, I think it would be OK to switch back to csv | 15:50 |
| chem | EmilienM: you should take both to not be bitten by warning output | 15:50 |
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| EmilienM | chem: ok | 15:50 |
| chem | mwhahaha: I added the necessary tests, so that should be robust | 15:50 |
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| EmilienM | chem: they are dependents, right? | 15:50 |
| mwhahaha | which since json wasn't added until liberty (i think) would make it more compatible with previous versions anyway | 15:51 |
| chem | EmilienM: yep | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | I'll test it today | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | in the meantime, I would like to see some discussions between folks involved in that, and maybe a concensus | 15:51 |
| chem | EmilienM: yeap, that why I send a lot of noise on the ML :) | 15:51 |
| chem | EmilienM: will get in touch with Sergey | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | thanks folks | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | I updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-ci-mitaka | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | good progress on getting mitaka! | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for today? I'll close the meeting in 30s otherwise | 15:53 |
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| EmilienM | gchamoul: did you resolve your issues with rspec on puppet-swift ? | 15:53 |
| mwhahaha | just to announce, i'm working on rspec-puppet-facts | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: thanks a lot for this work, I did some reviews already | 15:54 |
| mwhahaha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264830/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:rspec-puppet-facts | 15:54 |
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| mwhahaha | comments welcome, i've got patches for puppet-cinder and puppet-aodh | 15:54 |
| gchamoul | EmilienM: nope, there are a lot of issue due to some changes in puppet 4.3.0 | 15:54 |
| mwhahaha | so everyone can see what it looks like | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: please let the group know if you need some help | 15:55 |
| gchamoul | EmilienM: for sure, I need help ... others couple of eyes ... | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | specially Hunner or _ody if that's puppet core things | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | #action chem to discuss about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263874/ and find concensus with the group | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | #action emilien to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263874/ with mitaka repos | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | Hunner, _ody: can you give a hand on gchamoul about his work on getting rspec jobs working on latest versions? | 15:57 |
| EmilienM | AFIK only puppet-swift is blocking now | 15:57 |
| * _ody doesn't even know where Hunner is | 15:57 | |
| _ody | Like a ghost lately. | 15:57 |
| _ody | gchamoul: Yeah I can help. | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | thanks guys | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | I'm closing the meeting | 15:58 |
| gchamoul | _ody: thanks! | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 15:58:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-12-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-12-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-12-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tackers .. will start in 2 mins | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 17:03:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:03 |
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| vishwana_ | o/ | 17:03 |
| sripriya_ | o/ | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker mtg ? | 17:03 |
| tbh | o/ | 17:03 |
| bobh | o/ | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: sripriya_: tbh: bobh: hi all !! | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: you there ? | 17:04 |
| vishwana_ | hi all | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Jan_12.2C_2016 | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Big Tent | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | We had always had plans to apply for big tent for Tacker sometime in mid-Mitaka... | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | we planned many activities over last many months .. like unit test, functional gate, etc with an eye on this | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | I think we are at a point to go ahead and do it.. | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | I'd like to quickly poll the folks in this room here .. | 17:07 |
| sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: cool | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | (1) Long overdue, lets proceed to apply for Big Tent 2) This is not the right time to apply for Big Tent, we should wait (3) Tacker should not apply for Big Tent | 17:07 |
| bobh | 1 | 17:07 |
| natarajk | 1 | 17:07 |
| vishwana_ | 1 | 17:07 |
| tbh | 1 | 17:08 |
| sripriya_ | 1 | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | alright.. thats unanimous ! | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | I started writing up the application for patchset to openstack/governance repo here ... #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-big-tent-writeup | 17:09 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, thanks for doing this | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | please feel free to add / edit / comment (on the side bar) | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: sure ! | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | I truly believe we have come a long way.. and quite happy we are in a position to do this | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks to this amazing team.. | 17:11 |
| vishwana_ | how long will it take to get added to the back tent from the time you apply? | 17:11 |
| sripriya_ | +1 | 17:11 |
| tbh | +1 | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: AFAIK there is predetermined time, after we apply TC will schedule it for a discussion.. | 17:12 |
| vishwana_ | ok | 17:13 |
| ahelkhou | which channel to join the room? | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: .. it all depends how clean the scope and how contentious the review comments are.. | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | ahelkhou: sorry, I didn't get your question.. can you elaborate ? | 17:14 |
| bobh | I think it was typed in the wrong window | 17:15 |
| ahelkhou | Sorry my mistake:) | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | ahelkhou: np ! | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | any other questions on governance and big tent ? | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | I hope we can push the big-tent patchset by early next week... | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | lets move on.. | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka blueprints | 17:16 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic TOSCA parser update | 17:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: where do we stand at this point ? | 17:17 |
| bobh | The change to allow tosca-parser to work inside the tacker server was merged and should be in the next point release, which I think is 1/25 | 17:17 |
| brucet | <bobh> I saw you have an etherpad for Tosca / Heat translation | 17:18 |
| bobh | The NFV changes to tosca-parser are under review - there is a discussion about the best approach to take, and once that is resolved it should merge fairly quickly - hoping to get that in the same point release | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: that's good news .. particularly if it makes 1/25 | 17:18 |
| bobh | brucet: Yes - the next step is to make sure Heat Translator can process all of the objects appropriately | 17:19 |
| brucet | I was looking for a similar document for the original Tosca / Heat translator | 17:19 |
| bobh | in parallel I am working on a spec to document the tacker changes - we should be able to support both template types for a period of time, then deprecate the old and continue with TOSCA only | 17:19 |
| bobh | brucet: If you find one let me know :-) I have only been able to walk through the code at this point | 17:20 |
| brucet | <bobh> Same with me | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: that's sounds like a plan... I know it quite tricky waddling across these projects! | 17:21 |
| bobh | I need to put together some test templates for TOSCA NFV that can be used for code testing | 17:21 |
| brucet | <bobh> Is that how you got the mappings in the Etherpad? | 17:21 |
| bobh | brucet: The mappings in the Etherpad came from my reading of the OASIS NFV document and my basic understanding of Heat and OpenStack | 17:21 |
| brucet | OK. Got it | 17:22 |
| brucet | <bobh> I will review it | 17:22 |
| bobh | brucet: There is some discussion about whether a VDU should map to Compute or SoftwareComponent - hopefully sridhar_ram will make some progress on that this week | 17:22 |
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| brucet | OK | 17:23 |
| bobh | We may also need to define our own objects to add the additional properties we need for mgmt_ip and monitoring_policy - they will derive from the NFV objects | 17:23 |
| bobh | or from the base profile objects | 17:23 |
| bobh | So Tacker templates may need to import some tacker definitions in addition to using the version specification for TOSCA NFV | 17:24 |
| brucet | <bobh> Do you mean add new Heat resources or something on the side of Heat? | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: yes, heading to ETSI Information Model meetup this week (as a member of TOSCA group)... will try to get some clarification on Compute vs SofwareComponent. Templates based on Compute looks cleaner. | 17:24 |
| bobh | brucet: No - Tacker needs information in the template that will not map to Heat, so we will probably need to "prune" that information out of the template before it gets sent to heat-translator | 17:24 |
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| brucet | <bobh> OK. Will these items drive a separate Tacker API then? | 17:25 |
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| bobh | brucet: No - same API - the template will determine which parser is used - if there is a version tag in the template it will use the TOSCA parser, otherwise it will use the native YAML parser | 17:26 |
| brucet | <bobh> For example, I believe you will have objects defined in the templatethat would end up driving the Tacker SFC API | 17:26 |
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| bobh | brucet: That could be | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: eventually, yes.. when we start supporting VNFFGD descriptors | 17:27 |
| bobh | brucet: It would require an architecture change (which is overdue anyway) | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: .. initial TOSCA parser integration will not have Forwarding Graph support | 17:28 |
| brucet | <sridar_ram> exactly | 17:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: our hope there, Heat resources will we created for the networking-sfc effort and this is something we can eventually consume. | 17:29 |
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| brucet | <sridar_ram> Right. Makes sense. | 17:29 |
| brucet | Same for multi-site? | 17:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: we will take up discussing multi-site soon.. hold your thoughts | 17:30 |
| brucet | OK | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: using Tacker types to overlay over tosca-nfv is reasonable .. | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: .. the main Tacker overlays would be for monitoring and mgmt_driver, correct ? | 17:31 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: I think so - also config is not supported by TOSCA so need to overlay that too | 17:31 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: or put it into the lifecycle - which might not be a bad idea | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: lifecycle could be an option.. I'm unclear if tosca-parser or heat-translator will play a role there | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: .. it is something that tacker need to drive | 17:33 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: needs more investigation | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | anything else from your side? | 17:33 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: I think that covers it | 17:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | now, lets jump of discussing the auto-resource which depends on tosca parser changes... | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Auto Resource Creation | 17:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: can you give an update ? | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | BP link is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250291/ | 17:35 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure, as we decided in last meeting, we have to create flavor/network at vnf creation time and image in onboarding VNFD | 17:35 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, but the issue is maintaing the state of VNFD in the parametrized case | 17:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: I'm looking for the wider team's input here.. my personal opinion / way forward is we don't allow image URL parameterizable in VNFD | 17:37 |
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| sripriya_ | agree | 17:38 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: I agree - that would be a one-time action | 17:38 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: although there is an argument for allowing different images for the same VNFD, where you might change versions of the base image without changing the VNFD | 17:39 |
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| vishwana_ | what would be the issue with image URL parameterization in VNFD? .... Is the issue that multiple duplicate images would be created in glance | 17:39 |
| bobh | vishwana_: if there was logic to look for the image in glance first and then only go get it from the URL if it's not there, that might work | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: agree, that scenario goes into VNF image management realm called out in ETSI MANO ... | 17:40 |
| vishwana_ | bobh, ok | 17:41 |
| bobh | vishwana_: but I think the question is when to do image processing - if it only happens at VNFD-create, then no need to paramaterize | 17:41 |
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| bobh | if image processing is done at VNF-create, then the parameter makes sense | 17:41 |
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| vishwana_ | bobh, thanks, now I understand the issue | 17:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: that's an interesting option.. to look for the image in glance during vnf create .. .. if not download | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | another thought, we might need to support VNFD in CSAR zip bundle format down the line .. where the zip might have the qcow2 image | 17:42 |
| vishwana_ | we have to start using nova-api | 17:42 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: not sure you could count on the name - might need MD5sum | 17:42 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: +1 - tosca-parser already supports CSAR files, so we might want to consider it | 17:43 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: for md5sum we still need to download and that will increase vnf creation time.. | 17:43 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, bobh how will we check for the same image in glance? | 17:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: bobh: we got to use name or uuid.. md5sum is not practical | 17:44 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, bobh I mean we can have conflicts with image details with other images | 17:44 |
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| bobh | tbh: I think it would need to be md5sum values | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | let me summarize the options ... | 17:45 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, here using uuid or name, we cannot check the valid image | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | 1) VNFD image uri without parameterization | 17:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | 2) VNFD in CSAR zip with qcow2 bundled in | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | 3) VNFD has parameterized URI, download and glance upload happens in VNF creation time | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | (1) and (2) will have image in place in glance for vnf-creation ... | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | we could potentially support one or more of these options... | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | any votes / preferences ? | 17:47 |
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| vishwana_ | I would vote for 3) for the initial version of the implementation even though it would create duplicate images during subsequent VNF creation. | 17:47 |
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| bobh | vishwana_: So would you also delete the image when the VNF is deleted? | 17:48 |
| tbh | for option 3, I am not sure, how perfectly we can check that image and I prefer option 1 for now | 17:48 |
| vishwana_ | bobh yes | 17:48 |
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| sripriya_ | 3) would be take a really long time to complete, including download, upload and actual vnf creation | 17:48 |
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| tbh | vishwana_, but we are storing a huge same images again and again | 17:49 |
| tbh | sripriya_, agree | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | If we do (3) we need to figure out a way to avoid duplicate glance images .. we might resort to download, compute md5sum and upload only if needed | 17:49 |
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| vishwana_ | if we are OK with introducing nova_api then we can still have a modified version of (3 | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: +1, we will run out of glance image space ! | 17:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'm fine going with (1) for now with a plan to support (2) down the line... | 17:51 |
| vishwana_ | if image space is an issue and which it will be and we do not want to introduce nova-api, then 1 is the option | 17:51 |
| ahelkhou | Sridhar_ram: +1 | 17:51 |
| sridhar_ram | we can introduce an explicit vnfd-image-update operation to take care of VNFD image mgmt | 17:52 |
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| sridhar_ram | bottomline my vote would be reconcile image at VNFD creation time.. one way or the other | 17:52 |
| vishwana_ | however, if 1) starts making VNFD a stateful object, I have a tough time understanding the value proposition of making VNFD a stateful object | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | small correction, I mean at VNFD object level | 17:53 |
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| bobh | a VNFD could also reference multiple images | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: I'm also keeping an eye on csar bundle support | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: for multi VDUs ? | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | we are running out of time folks.. | 17:54 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I need to know more about csar support after mtg | 17:54 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: yes | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | lets continue in the tacker spec.... good discussion though | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: can you please capture the options discussed here in the spec and have folks weigh in and pick a winner | 17:55 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 17:55 |
| vishwana_ | I would be interested in the csar bundle support ... will watch out for that discussion in the tacker channel or the gerrit review | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: quickly for flavor and network .. you might need to check if heat-translator supports flavor creation and network creation | 17:55 |
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| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, are you restricting the options to the discussed 3 or you are OK with other options | 17:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: please reach out to spzala & bobh | 17:56 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, they are not supporting flavor creation | 17:56 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, tbh, FYI:I have verfied that flavor and network creation is supported by heat | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: we should be open other options as well .. as long as they are viable.. | 17:57 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, heat-translator will provide a matched flavor otherwise null | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: that's a bummer.. can that be enhanced to do flavor creation ? | 17:57 |
| ahelkhou | sridhar_ram: will Tacker allow to specify extra-spec in the flavor definition? | 17:58 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, they don't want to create any openstack resources, just to translate the templates which is purpose heat-translator | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | ahelkhou: that's the plan for efficient VNF placement | 17:58 |
| tbh | *purpose of | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: okay... lets take it offline.. | 17:58 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 17:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets continue in gerrit. | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 17:59 |
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| brucet | Is there an overall Tacker spec? | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: sorry, we didn't had time for multi-site discussion.. | 17:59 |
| brucet | No problem | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: ..lets plan to take it first thing next week.. | 17:59 |
| brucet | I am having a hard time seeing the forest through the trees. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: unfortunately no! | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | out of time.. | 18:00 |
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| brucet | OK | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | quick reminder .. Tacker midcycle is on Jan 28th, 29th in San Jose, CA.. please plan to attend if you can | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-mitaka-midcycle | 18:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 18:01:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-01-12-17.03.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-01-12-17.03.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-01-12-17.03.log.html | 18:01 |
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