Tuesday, 2016-04-05

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tfukushima#startmeeting kuryr03:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 03:02:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:02
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:02
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tfukushimaHi, I think we have the weekly Kuryr meeting today.03:02
mspreitzthat's what my calendar says03:02
tfukushimaWho's up for the meeting?03:03
tfukushimaOk, it seems like we are only attendees.03:04
tfukushima#info mspreitz and tfukushima are present03:04
mspreitzthen maybe it's a short meeting03:04
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tfukushimaUnfortunately we don't have the agenda, so let's focus on the k8s topic.03:05
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mspreitzOK.  I have a devref up for review.  It's WIP, but I'll take any comments anyone wants to offer now.03:06
tfukushima#topic k8s integration03:06
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tfukushima#info mspreitz submitted his devref and it's ready for the review03:06
tfukushima#link mspreitz's devref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290172/03:07
fawadkhaliqhey guys, sorry I am late.03:07
tfukushimaOh, hi fawadkhaliq. Welcome.03:07
tfukushima#info fawadkhaliq is present as well03:07
mspreitzI do have a few discussion questions.03:07
tfukushimamspreitz: Go ahead.03:08
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mspreitzUsing an overlay network has this bad effect: it completely bypasses the stuff that kube-proxy does in each host's main network namespace.03:08
mspreitzLeading us to want to put up an alternate service proxying solution.03:08
mspreitzNow the easiest thing to do is create a load balancer in a pod, for each service.03:09
mspreitzThat sucks pretty hard.03:09
mspreitzAnd raises a question: can our alternate service proxy solution set the service's "service cluster IP" to be a pod's pod IP?03:09
tfukushimamspreitz: Even with your proposal and without OVS datapath?03:10
mspreitzI think I am speaking of an issue that applies with any overlay network that eschews the main network namespace of the hosts.03:11
tfukushimaI thought the service cluster IP can be a VIP associated with the load balancer and Pod IPs can be managed as the Pool members.03:11
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mspreitzMy point is that if we are using an overlay network that avoids the hosts' main network namespace then we have an issue for implementing that VIP03:12
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mspreitzFor example, one possible solution is to use a Neutron load balancer.  One of those must have its VIP on the same network as the endpoints, right?03:12
mspreitzOr has that changed in recent releases?03:13
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tfukushimaThe VIP can be the IP address on the different subnet AFAIK.03:14
mspreitzDifferent subnet but it must be the same network?03:14
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tfukushimamspreitz: I'm not 100% sure but I believe so.03:14
mspreitzWell, my basic question is this: what part of the system is in charge of setting a service's "service cluster IP"?03:16
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tfukushimamspreitz: Usually it's kube-proxy.  Ok, I must be missing the problem you're facing.03:17
mspreitzThat would be a good answer.  My point is that if we are not using the kube-proxy then: can our alternative set the "service cluster IP" and is there any constraint on what that is set to?03:18
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tfukushimaSo services should be able to be communicated even if they're in the different namespaces?03:19
mspreitzSince we have been assuming that one tenant can have multiple namespaces then yes, there has to be some ability to communicate between namespaces.03:19
mspreitz(but I do not understand the connection to my quesetion)03:20
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tfukushimaSo your question was "is there any constraint on what that is set to"?03:21
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mspreitzIt's really a two part question.  (1) What sets the "service cluster IP" of a service?  And, if our alternate proxy can do that, (2) can our alternate set the "service cluster IP" to anything it likes?03:21
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mspreitzfawadkhaliq: would you like some time to get your client under control?03:23
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tfukushimamspreitz: Thanks for your clarification. So in my API watcher proposal, which I would mention later, 1. The API watcher would take care of it and 2. The subnet of service IP needs to be allocated besides the pod subnets.03:23
fawadkhaliqmspreitz: I am sorry. Flaky Internet, can't do much, unfortunately..03:24
mspreitzby "besides" do you mean (a) it has to be distinct or (b) it has to be somehow alongside or alongwith?03:24
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tfukushimaI'd say rather a.03:25
mspreitztfukushima: are you saying that we can not make an alternate proxy solution that uses a Neutron load balancer whose VIP is on the same subnet as the endpoints?03:25
tfukushimaBut in the deployment script usually they're declared differently as FLANNEL_NET= and SERVICE_IP_RANGE=, for instance.03:26
mspreitzI know that03:26
mspreitzbut that is only a matter of some existing practice03:26
mspreitzI am asking about what the code requires03:26
mspreitzIn fact, you are quoting only some configuration of some stuff we will not use, so its relevance is not obvious.03:27
tfukushimaWell, it's the default behaviour, so I thought it could be a good starting point.03:28
mspreitzBut, again, that's configuration of stuff (flannel, kube-proxy) that we will not use.03:28
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mspreitzOK, it looks like more progress on this will not happen right now...03:29
mspreitzLet me ask on another front..03:29
mspreitzI wonder about not using an overlay.  But that raises questions about multi-tenancy.  How does Calico handle that?03:30
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tfukushimaI don't have enough knowledge to say something unfortunately. https://github.com/projectcalico/calico-cni/tree/master/calico_cni03:31
fawadkhaliqI am not sure if Calico handles multi-tenancy..03:32
fawadkhaliqI know about the general capabilities of Calico though03:32
mspreitzOK, no more progress on that here now.03:32
mspreitzI am done.03:32
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tfukushima#action Everyone reviews mspreitz's devref for k8s translate 1 and 203:34
tfukushimaOk, so as I was talking, I wrote the devref for the API watcher.03:35
tfukushima#link the API watcher devref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301426/03:35
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tfukushimaI should have marked it as WIP and it needs better commit message.03:36
tfukushimaAlthough I'd modify it accordingly, I'd appreciate if you could take a look at it when you have some time.03:37
tfukushimaIt's not in the perfect shape but I just wanted some feedback kicking the early start off.03:37
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mspreitzThere's an implementation too, right?03:38
tfukushimaWe will make them public when its gets the good shape.03:38
tfukushimaActually we have some bugs and problems :-/03:39
tfukushimaBut basically I put necessarily information for the implementation in the devref.03:39
mspreitzPlease help me remember.  There is some implementation that was up for review recently.03:40
tfukushimaReally? I must have missed it.03:41
mspreitzOK, maybe it was something else or from someone else.03:42
mspreitzI haven't seen this devref before, will have to comment on it later.03:43
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tfukushimaAnyways please take a look at it if you have any chance.03:43
tfukushimaThat's it from me.03:43
tfukushimafawadkhaliq: We're having the meeting without any agenda. Do you have anything you want to talk about?03:44
fawadkhaliqtfukushima: not really. Just that we are preparing the content for Austin sessions.03:44
tfukushimaOk, cool.03:45
tfukushimamspreitz: Do you have anything else? If you don't I'd like to end the meeting.03:45
mspreitzI have nothing else.03:45
tfukushimaGood. Thank you for attending, guys. Let's discuss on #openstack-kuryr if you found anything.03:46
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jasondotstar#startmeeting openstack-salt13:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 13:02:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt'13:02
jasondotstar#topic roll call13:02
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jasondotstarhi cznewt13:02
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jasondotstarwhat's new? :-)13:03
cznewtwe have good news :)13:03
jasondotstaroh nice13:03
cznewtdvr support in  review process13:03
jasondotstarwho else we got?13:04
cznewtand bird of feather has been accepted13:04
cznewtyes :)13:05
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jasondotstarok I just pinged the rest of the team, hopefully they will show13:05
jasondotstar#topic Introduction13:06
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jasondotstarthis meeting is for the openstack-salt team13:06
jasondotstarif you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt13:06
jasondotstarmeetings are Weekly on Tuesdays at 1300UTC13:06
jasondotstar#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting13:06
jasondotstar#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt13:06
jasondotstar#topic Review past action items13:07
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jasondotstaris genunix around today?13:07
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jasondotstarohai liqw13:08
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cznewtso let's move to agenda from past?13:09
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jasondotstarwe don't have genunix yet, but is there anyone who can speak to this:13:09
jasondotstar    genunix to start the RPM packaging spec13:09
jasondotstarif not, we'll move on13:09
jasondotstarjasondotstar to reach out to dirk (RPM-packaging team) to discuss RPM packaging13:10
cznewthe's away today13:10
jasondotstarcznewt: ack.13:10
jasondotstarso I reached out to dirk and Igor from the RPM-packaging team13:10
jasondotstarwe are going to have a short meeting today to discuss RPM packaging.  this should give us the info we need to write up a spec13:11
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jasondotstarwell, let's step back a sec13:24
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jasondotstari think you're saying that we need to use salt to stand up multiple interconnected services13:24
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jasondotstarand do end-to-end tests13:24
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jasondotstarto ensure that all our formulas work in concert, right?13:24
cznewtyes, pretty much13:25
jasondotstarright, ok13:25
jasondotstarso I think there's a facility for that where nodepool is involved13:25
cznewtbasically we have salt orchestration which shlould bring the services up in right order13:25
jasondotstari can follow up on this13:26
cznewtbut the actual scenario testing and result evaluation is not clear on how to do13:26
cznewtbasically we need more than "services are running"13:26
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jasondotstarcznewt: agreed13:27
cznewtbut to be able to create net/server/volume13:27
jasondotstarspawn infra13:27
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cznewtand if this work, we can mark it success13:27
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jasondotstarspawn resources i should say13:27
jasondotstarI gotcha13:27
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jasondotstar#action jasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services13:28
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jasondotstarok let's move on13:28
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jasondotstarcznewt to follow up on DVR networking and the neutron salt formula with OVS support13:29
cznewtyes this has been contributed by wondra13:29
cznewtwondra: can you tell some more things about the implementation?13:30
wondraFrankly? The base is probably yours from Icehouse time.13:30
wondraI just updated it, tested, added DVR parameters.13:30
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wondraThere are a few bugfixes and I renamed bridge and switch to compute and network, because it was highly confising.13:31
cznewtyes, I'm thinking on how to create new test-lab with this network setup13:32
wondraAbout the reviews.. I don't really know what the package fuel-utils does. I just copied it. I actually think it is obsolete.13:32
jasondotstaris there a review to look at on this?13:33
wondraAnd about the testing. How exactly does the test infrastructure work now? I read in the docs that it spins up some VM, but what does it do then?13:33
cznewtthis package is not required13:33
wondraOK, will delete.13:33
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cznewtand generally no packages in formulas13:33
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jasondotstar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300725/213:34
cznewtwe can d13:35
cznewto review comments at the end of session13:35
cznewtthere are 2 points I'd like to go over first13:35
cznewtregarding the summit and propagation of our effort13:36
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cznewt1. bird of feather talk https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9449?goback=113:38
cznewtit will be about real life experience, but i'd like to empasise on how to join us13:39
cznewtthe benefits of our solution over the competition etc :)13:39
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cznewtI'd make the presentation shareable to the rest of the team13:40
jasondotstarthat's awesome13:40
jasondotstar#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9449?goback=113:40
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jasondotstarwe certainly want to bring up what makes us different13:41
cznewtOk can you give me action to prepare the presentation doc13:42
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jasondotstarsure thing13:42
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jasondotstar#action cznewt to prepare the BoF session presentation slide for review with the team13:43
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jasondotstar#action cznewt to prepare the BoF session presentation slides for review with the team13:43
jasondotstarcznewt: there was a second item?13:44
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cznewtyes it's the vendor involvement13:45
cznewtif to gather them to BoF presentation13:45
cznewtto give them some reason to come/contribute13:46
cznewtto this presentation13:46
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jasondotstarare there specific vendors you want to target?13:46
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cznewtvendors, to integrate their backends13:48
cznewtif they were to be summoned to BoF talk, there should be part in how to integrate new things13:48
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cznewtthis is the main question whether to direct them to BoF or make some informal meeting on integration13:49
cznewtor make the integration part of BoF13:49
jasondotstarthe BoF is like a kickoff13:49
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jasondotstari'd think13:52
jasondotstarwe invite them there13:52
jasondotstarand have them hear what we have to offer13:53
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jasondotstarbut an informal meeting might work too.... something to think about13:53
jasondotstarsomething we can talk about more in chan13:53
cznewtok, agreed, we can tell them more at end BoF and if there's demand we'll make informal meeting13:54
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jasondotstarok final 5 minutes13:54
jasondotstar#topic Open Discussion13:54
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cznewtnow to the dvr stuff13:54
jasondotstarany other items to bring up13:54
jasondotstaryes, let's finish up with that13:54
cznewtyes and the test labs13:54
jasondotstargo for it13:54
cznewtwe have ubu/rh   dvr/contrail   single/cluster13:54
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cznewtthis is 2x2x2 - 8 possible solutions13:55
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cznewthow to manage this13:55
cznewtif we add any more it goes to 16...32 :)13:55
cznewtpossible setups13:55
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cznewthow to choose what setups to support13:56
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jasondotstargood point13:57
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wondraCrazy idea - do it in serial on a btrfs filesystem with snapshots. In testing the setups, you always change 1 option, so the snapshots will form a binary tree :-)13:57
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cznewttime is running up, we can discuss in our channel this, I'd like to get to some resolution as I want to setup at least the dvr/ubuntu single/cluster for start13:59
jasondotstarsomething for us to think about13:59
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jasondotstarthanks guys14:00
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carl_baldwinSorry, laptop dropped off the network momentarily.14:01
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_routed_networks14:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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carl_baldwin#topic Announcements14:01
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Routed-Networks14:01
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carl_baldwinLet's see.  I think the basic segment API is ready to merge.14:02
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296603/14:02
carl_baldwinI hope to get someone to merge it today.14:02
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?14:02
mlavalleJust to mention the summit14:03
mlavalleit's 3 weeks away14:03
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carl_baldwinYep!  Coming fast.14:03
mlavalleWe have some sessions relevant to this effort there14:03
carl_baldwinI see some feedback from armax on the API patch.  I'll address it early this morning.14:03
mlavalleSpecifically on Wednesday, discussion with the Nova team14:04
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Do you know the specific time / session?14:04
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: no, but I intend to follow up with mreidem to make sure we have good coverage14:05
mlavalleI'll update this team next week during this meeting14:05
carl_baldwinThe Nova sessions on the schedule still say "tbd"14:05
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks for following up on that.  Hopefully, next week we'll know.14:06
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?14:06
mlavalleyeah, I am passing along what was commented yesterday during the scheduler meeting :-)14:06
carl_baldwin#topic Progress14:06
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carl_baldwinThe basic CRUD patches are pretty much ready.  So, nothing to report on that.14:07
carl_baldwin#topic Associate Subnets to Segments and IPAM14:07
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carl_baldwinI'm wrapping up UTs on a patch to allow association of subnets to segments.  It should be ready to go by early tomorrow.14:08
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carl_baldwinThe next part is IPAM related.  My plan is to have a patch for pluggable IPAM up for review by the end of the week.14:09
carl_baldwinThe idea will be to push some concept of grouping down in to the pluggable driver so that drivers can optionally optimize queries based on groups of subnets (by network, by segment, etc.)14:10
carl_baldwinIt will still work with existing IPAM drivers.14:10
carl_baldwinThat's about it.14:10
blogani look forward to it14:11
ski2hey carl_baldwin: anything we can help on?14:11
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will post review for pluggable IPAM this week.14:11
carl_baldwinski2: At the moment, I just need to get the first patch up for the IPAM part.14:12
carl_baldwinFrom there, it would be nice to have someone actually running the patches on their own to see what testing I may have missed and getting familiar with it.14:12
ski2carl_baldwin: did you want us to take it and run with it after you post?14:12
ski2carl_baldwin: sure thing, once you post we'll take it on14:13
carl_baldwinski2: Thanks, we'll communicate once I've got it up.14:13
carl_baldwinI'll push really hard to get it up by the end of the week.14:14
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carl_baldwin#topic Nova Scheduler14:15
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: you're up.14:15
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mlavalleSo I posted a new approach to handle the coordination between Nova and Neutron in the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/14:15
mlavalleIt refers specifically on how to reduce the complexity of handling use case 3 (port created in neutron with ip address)14:16
mlavalleI brought it up yesterday during the Nova scheduler meeting14:17
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mlavalleNo specific feedback14:17
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mlavalleso if carl_baldwin has some time, I would like to see his reaction to it14:17
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: I'm hoping we can still get that high bandwidth discussion with jaypipes and hopefully others soon.14:18
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mlavalleyeah, me too. I can follow up with him14:18
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I read it over yesterday but I need to read it over again.  I'll point out some things on the review today.14:18
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I need to read it over one more time to be sure I understood.14:18
mlavalleping me if at any time if you have questions14:19
carl_baldwinMy initial reaction was that it could lead to more nova boot failures than they may want.14:19
blogani need to read it over 50 more times :)14:19
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will comment on mlavalle 's approach on the nova spec.14:20
mlavalleThe other thing I've been looking at is in re-thinking where we need to make the calls to Neutron in the Nova code14:20
carl_baldwinI encourage all to read it too.14:21
mlavalleI think we need to move that from the compute manager to the scheduler manager14:21
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mlavalleI mentioned this briefly last week to carl_baldwin14:21
mlavalleI will elaborate that this week14:21
carl_baldwinmlavalle: What is the motivation for that?  Would Nova be making calls to Neutron during scheduling?14:22
mlavalleNova now to make the decision of where to place a port based on IP availability in segments14:23
mlavallehas to make^^^14:23
mlavallethis doesn't mean we need to touch the Neutron API inside Nova. It means we need to call it from a diferent place14:24
carl_baldwinmlavalle: One thing I do know is that it is *very* important to nova that it not have to make external calls during scheduling.  I tend to agree with them.14:25
mlavalleok, i'll take that into consideration14:25
mlavalleit's something I've been thinking of and just wanted to shre it here14:26
carl_baldwinmlavalle: understood.14:26
mlavallethat's all I have on this topic this week14:26
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks.14:26
carl_baldwin#topic Create / delete segment in ML214:27
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xiaohhuiI see it is still no owner, right?14:27
carl_baldwinThis one still has no owner.  I think we're going to need someone pretty familiar with ML2.14:27
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: correct.14:27
xiaohhuiI will be full back to work this week, I think I can do that.14:27
carl_baldwinI talked to rkukura about this a bit last week.  He said that it was always the intention to enable create and delete of segments on an existing network.  It was just never implemented.  It sounded feasible.14:28
carl_baldwinAnyway, we'll keep this one on the back burner and continue to search for an owner.  We might be able to use the summit to find support.14:29
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will add it to the summit etherpad14:30
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: your message came in late for me.14:30
xiaohhuibad network~14:31
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: :)14:31
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: will that be difficult with the OVN work you're also doing?14:31
xiaohhuiI think they might be related, so I would to look them both, together.14:32
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: It will be good to get a good start on this.14:32
xiaohhuiyeah, I do think so14:32
carl_baldwinIt can follow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296658/ which I intend to rebase and get in to shape as soon as the preceding one merges.14:33
carl_baldwinThat one should merge pretty quickly too I should think.14:34
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Thanks!14:34
carl_baldwin#topic Segment aware DHCP14:34
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carl_baldwinblogan talked to me yesterday about this.14:34
carl_baldwinblogan: hi14:34
bloganbut yeah i'll certianly take this on, its definitely a knowledge gap for me but it'll be a good learning exercise even if i fall flat on my face14:35
carl_baldwinblogan: You should be able to get a start on this once you can associate subnets with segments.  I have that patch *almost* ready to update.14:37
bloganokay ill start on top of that patch then14:37
carl_baldwinblogan:  I'll reach out as soon as I get that one posted.14:38
blogancarl_baldwin: excellent, thanks!14:38
carl_baldwinblogan: Thank you!14:38
carl_baldwin#topic Client14:38
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carl_baldwinrtheis: reedip__ : hi14:39
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reedip__hello ..14:39
carl_baldwinAnything to discuss?14:40
reedip__I have some issues with the neutron tests, and have fallen back on the name/desc patch14:40
reedip__I will spend tomorrow to see what the problem is...14:40
reedip__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293305/14:41
carl_baldwinreedip__: That patch keeps falling off my radar.  I think it is because the topic is not "bp/routed-networks"14:41
reedip__cant figure out the error properly.. carl_baldwin: Yeah, rtheis suggested the same14:42
rtheisWorking devref update for newton (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299399/)... CLI ready once APIs are14:42
carl_baldwinrtheis: Thanks.  I'll have a look at that devref too.14:43
rtheiscarl_baldwin: but it sounds like we won't want entire CLI CRUD since things are coming in stages on API side14:43
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rtheismaybe I'll break up my patches to match API14:43
rtheisnothing else to report fromme14:44
carl_baldwinrtheis: that might be good.  It is always strange to have an API land before the capability lands.14:44
carl_baldwinreedip__: I'll have a look at your patch too.14:44
carl_baldwinThanks.  Anything else to discuss?14:45
rtheisnothing else14:45
carl_baldwinrtheis: reedip__ Thanks.14:45
carl_baldwin#topic L2 adjacency14:46
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reedip__carl_baldwin : Nothing else.. I think however, you have a patch for associating segments as well ?14:46
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carl_baldwinreedip__: Yes, I've committed to getting that patch updated by early tomorrow.14:46
carl_baldwinreedip__: It'll be an update to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288774/ which is now very old but I have new stuff locally.14:47
reedip__carl_baldwin: ok...14:47
carl_baldwin#topic L2 adjacency14:47
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carl_baldwinThis'll be a pretty straight-forward task, I think.14:48
carl_baldwinBasically, just add a read-only attribute to the extension to return true or false based on the network.14:48
carl_baldwinIt has no owner so I wanted to throw it out there.14:49
carl_baldwinThat's all.14:49
carl_baldwin#topic Open Agenda14:49
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carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Actually did you have anything regarding OVN to discuss?14:49
mlavallecarl_baldwin: are we going to discuss segments host mapping?14:49
xiaohhuiyeah,, I talked with russellb a little earlier. The code for ovs ovn has been implemented. Now the bridge-mapping and hostname can be found in OVN db. I will add some code in networking-ovn to read them out and use them for routed network. I had some personal affairs in the last two weeks, so I have to say sorry that I still have these in mind, not a patch for them now. I will try my best to post a patch in this week.14:50
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Is that missing from the agenda?  Oops.14:50
ski2carl_baldwin: we can take the l2 adjacency as well14:50
reedip__carl_baldwin: can take up L2 adjacency, should help me understand a bit more ...14:50
carl_baldwinreedip__: ping me about it.14:50
russellbxiaohhui: thanks again14:50
russellbxiaohhui: no worries on delays ... i needed some time to implement those pieces in OVN14:50
carl_baldwinreedip__: ski2: Actually ski2 was in there first.14:51
russellbxiaohhui: and please let me know if you hit anything else that's needed14:51
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Sounds like good progress.14:51
reedip__ski2: can I help ??14:51
xiaohhuisure, thanks russellb14:52
carl_baldwinrussellb: Thanks for getting to that stuff so quickly.14:52
russellbno problem14:52
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carl_baldwinski2: Can we discuss in the neutron channel later?14:53
ski2reedip__: if you want to take it, be my guest :)14:53
ski2sure thing14:53
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reedip__ski2: thanks ... :)14:54
carl_baldwinAnything else?14:54
xiaohhuiAnd this patch might need some attention https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295173/   it is just a clean up patch, no functionality14:54
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carl_baldwinxiaohhui: I'll review.  Thanks!14:55
xiaohhuithank you, nothing else from me14:55
carl_baldwinIf that's it...14:55
carl_baldwingoing once14:55
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blogangood day14:56
carl_baldwinThanks everyone!14:56
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carl_baldwinYou're all awesome!14:56
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degorenko#startmeeting puppet-openstack15:00
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degorenko#link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-2016040515:00
degorenkohey o/15:00
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degorenko#topic Review past actions items15:00
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degorenkoEmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function15:00
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degorenkoas i know - there is no progress15:01
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degorenkochem ping :)15:01
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degorenkook, then postpone it15:01
degorenko#action EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function (postponed)15:01
degorenkoEmilienM to investigate stable_follows-policy tag requirements and investigate about Kilo support15:01
degorenkofirst part to investigate stable_follows-policy tag requirements - in progress15:01
degorenkopatch is on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297382/15:02
degorenkoand waiting for Newton cycle15:02
degorenkosecond part - AFAIK is not started so should be postponed15:02
degorenko#action EmilienM need investigation about kilo support in our modules (postponed)15:02
degorenko#topic Fuel/Puppet-openstack integration summit topics15:02
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degorenko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-puppet-openstack-summit-topics15:02
degorenkomwhahaha, hey o/15:02
holser_hey o/15:02
mwhahahaHey everyone, so we've got a summit slot scheduled for fuel/puppet-openstack integration topics.15:03
mwhahahaI've put together a starting list of ideas for things that includes expanding Fuel CI and possibly sharing some of the modules that currently live in fuel-library.15:03
mwhahahaPlease review feel free to add some additional topics of feedback.15:03
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mwhahahaalso i think we have some open slots for puppet-openstack that if anyone wants to talk about stuff we can use as well15:03
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degorenkothat's good idea15:03
mwhahaha#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-puppet15:03
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mwhahahathat's all i've got15:04
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degorenkosome of modules that can be shared can be placed under existing modules, for example sahara_templates15:04
degorenkook, thank you15:04
mwhahahayea i think that's a prime one to upstream15:04
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degorenkook, moving on15:05
degorenko#topic moving to puppet-oslo15:05
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degorenkowe are planning to switch some parameters from native modules classes to puppet-oslo15:05
degorenkoso, should we keep all converting/checks and etc in old place?15:05
degorenkoor it should be moved to puppet-oslo too?15:05
degorenkofor example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298702/15:05
degorenkoany ideas folks?15:06
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degorenkoas i see now, some modules have different format of these parameters15:06
mwhahahaprobably should move them15:06
iberezovskiyoslo defines should take care of converting, other modules should just pass parameters15:06
degorenkoyeah, that's ok to me, we don't break anything, just pass parameters to puppet-oslo15:07
degorenko#topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here)15:08
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degorenkoif you have any questions, review requests, raise your hand :)15:08
mwhahahaa quiet meeting today15:09
degorenkook, i will close meeting in 30 seconds if nothing came up15:10
degorenkothanks everyone, have a good day15:10
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sridhar_ram#startmeeting tacker17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 17:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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sridhar_ram#topic Roll Call17:01
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sridhar_ramwho is here ?17:01
brucetYo hablar espanol Oy.17:01
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sridhar_ramhowdy all !17:01
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sridhar_rambrucet: buenos días !17:02
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sridhar_ramlets start...17:02
brucetOK english17:02
sridhar_ram#topic Agenda17:02
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sridhar_ram#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Apr_5.2C_201617:02
sridhar_ramI hope to have some open discussions today .. it is been a while!17:03
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sridhar_ramjanki_chhatbar: hi17:03
sridhar_ram#topic Announcements17:03
janki_chhatbarsridhar_ram: hi17:03
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sridhar_ram#success first official release of Tacker 0.3.0 for Mitaka is released !17:03
openstackstatussridhar_ram: Added success to Success page17:03
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sridhar_ram #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001052.html17:03
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sridhar_ramTacker Mitaka release is out .. squeezed on the last day of the deadline!17:04
sridhar_ramCongratulations team.. !17:04
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sripriyacongrats everyone!17:04
sridhar_ramMany of you pulled in hard across the board to make this happen ...17:05
janki_chhatbarcongratulations to all!!17:05
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sridhar_ramwe pulled in 2-weeks ahead due to big tent... didn't drop any features, which is awesome17:06
s3wongdidn't even know about #success :-)17:06
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sridhar_rams3wong: yeah, significant milestones can be called out.. it will go out in the weekly newsletter :)17:06
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sridhar_ramWe are officially starting Newton now..17:07
s3wongsridhar_ram: yeah, I vaguely remember someone mentioning that on ML :-)17:07
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sridhar_ram#topic Mitaka Docs17:08
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sridhar_ramWe need to cut over to use official openstack documentation repo for Tacker...17:09
brucet<sridar_ram> I'm almost done with 1st cut of arch section17:09
sridhar_ram#link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals17:10
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sridhar_rambrucet: cool..17:10
brucetshould I just check it in or send to you first??17:10
sridhar_ramfor arch guide I think we should still keep in the tacker repo..17:10
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sridhar_ramhere is the split .. some docs will continue to live in tacker repo ..17:11
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sridhar_ram.. for near term17:11
sridhar_ram#link https://github.com/openstack/tacker/tree/master/doc/source17:11
brucetI thought it was supposed to go in docs17:11
brucetThat's where I have it17:11
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sridhar_ramopenstack-manuals work is new for this team.. unless someone here has already done it.. anyone ?17:12
brucetWait I have it in tacker/doc17:12
sridhar_ramassuming no, I'd suggest the tippy toeing into the world of openstack-manuals in the following order:17:12
sripriyasridhar_ram: i happened to commit to openstack-manuals sometime back, their dev steps are straight forward to follow17:13
sridhar_ramtransition Tacker Install guide to openstack-manuals ...17:13
sridhar_ram #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/install-guide17:13
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sripriyasridhar_ram: one thing learnt, we do not edit html files directly, but there are xml files we need to edit and generate the docs17:13
sridhar_ramsripriya: that's cool.. however if there are volunteers you can guide them as well17:13
brucetI'm confused. I saw a doc directory directly under tacker17:14
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sripriyasridhar_ram: sure17:14
brucetThe source there builds the OpenStack documentation you pointed to last week17:15
brucetIt has install, policies, devref17:15
brucetI added arch to it17:15
sridhar_rambrucet: all: my proposal is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-docs-manuals17:15
brucetNot correct?17:15
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sridhar_rambrucet: the confusion is understandable.. let me explain..17:16
* sridhar_ram expects sripriya to correct as needed17:16
sridhar_ramthere are two places to host a project documentation in openstack...17:16
sridhar_ram1) in the project repository itself .. <project>/doc/source17:17
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sridhar_ramthis is typically used to host developer docs and at times even other feature documentation...17:17
sridhar_ram2) openstack-manuals repo17:17
brucetOK. Got it17:17
sridhar_ramthis is a separate repo, geared towards openstack as a whole17:17
brucetArch is under Tacker repo17:18
sridhar_rambrucet: yep.. atleast for now17:18
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brucetOK. That's where I have it. All good17:18
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sridhar_ramwhoever volunteered to do doc work for tacker .. please update the above etherpad17:20
sripriyasridhar_ram: updated the API ref guide link in etherpad17:20
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sridhar_ramsripriya: thanks!17:21
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sripriyasridhar_ram: we can contribute Tacker chapters to api-guide official repo and point to it from our developer docs for API reference17:21
sridhar_ramjanki_chhatbar: you took up TOSCA VNFD template documentation ? can you please update the etherpad ?17:21
sridhar_ramsripriya: yes, that should work...17:22
janki_chhatbarsridhar_ram: yes sure17:22
sridhar_ramhere is my overall take some effort to transition to openstack-manuals.. we will do it alongside over the Newton cycle..17:22
sridhar_ramwe can start w/ install-guide transition..17:23
sridhar_rammeanwhile, we also need to document the features that came in Mitaka .. for users to consume it effectively..17:23
sridhar_ramI thought tacker repo doc is easier / faster to get them in..17:23
sridhar_ramwhat you all think ?17:23
sridhar_ramvishwanathj: are you planning to add a document for EPA / SR-IOV features ?17:24
s3wongsridhar_ram: +117:24
sridhar_rams3wong: thanks for the ack !17:25
sripriyasridhar_ram: so usage guide will be under tacker repo doc for now right?17:25
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vishwanathjsridhar_ram, Yes, there will be some relate to EPA/ SR-IOV17:26
sridhar_ramtbh: bobh_: can you please guide janki_chhatbar as she documents TOSCA VNFD with tosca parser based features ?17:26
bobh_sridhar_ram: no problem17:26
tbhsridhar_ram, sure17:26
janki_chhatbarsridhar_ram: tbh: bobh: thanks very much17:26
sridhar_ramvishwanathj: can you please add an entry to the etherpad !17:26
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sridhar_ramsripriya: ack to your previous question... usage / feature guide stays in tacker repo for now17:27
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sripriyasridhar_ram: thanks17:28
sridhar_ramvertical guides - like install, config, api, cli - will slide in first17:28
sridhar_ramlets go w/ this plan.. and we can course correct as we go17:28
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sridhar_ramI'll take up transitioning install-guide to gain some experience myself...17:29
sridhar_ramsantoshk: if you've some bandwidth please pick up some doc work17:29
sridhar_rammoving on...17:30
santoshksridhar_ram: sure17:30
sridhar_ram#topic Functional Tests17:30
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sridhar_ramas you might know, we have few pending func tests for the features that landed in Mitaka..17:31
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sridhar_ramit make sense to fill the gap before we get busy w/ newton features...17:31
sridhar_ram.. and to make sure mitaka features stay healthy as newton features start coming in17:31
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santoshksridhar_ram: I am planning to add testcases , running existing tests with new tosca template format next few days..17:32
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sridhar_ramsantoshk: awesome, that's definitely the first order of business...17:32
sripriyasantoshk: we will also need to test some optional properties of new tosca template such as anti_spoofing_protection, ip_address etc.17:33
sridhar_ramI need team's help to maintain an ongoing backlog of functional tests...17:33
sridhar_ram#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-functional-test-backlog17:33
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sridhar_ramI seeded this etherpad with some func tests that I knew we need..17:34
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santoshksripriya: sure..17:34
tbhsridhar_ram, I pushed WIP patch for single VDU test case, will update soon for multi VDU17:34
sridhar_ramtbh: I remember seeing a multi-vdu test already in the repo...17:35
sridhar_ramtbh: https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/tacker/tests/functional/vnfm/test_tosca_vnf_multiple_vdu.py17:35
santoshksridhar_ram: yes there is one multi-vdu tests, i think monitor enabled for few and disable for few..17:35
tbhsridhar_ram, but for  auto flavor case17:35
sridhar_ramtbh: cool, please use the etherpad to maintain the list you are bringing in...17:36
sridhar_ramso that we know who is working on what and avoid duplicate work..17:36
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tbhsridhar_ram, sure, will update17:37
sridhar_ramtbh: thanks!17:38
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sridhar_ramfor any new contributors - functional tests (and docs) would be a nice way to get started in Tacker !17:38
sridhar_ramplease pitch in17:39
sridhar_rammoving on17:39
sridhar_ram#topic Austin Summit Planning17:39
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sridhar_ramFinal design summit slots are here..17:40
sridhar_ram#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20160331/d59d38b7/attachment.pdf17:40
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sridhar_ramWe have two consecutive blocks...17:40
sridhar_ramApr 28th Thursday - 2:20pm - 5:40pm17:41
sridhar_ramApr 29th  Friday - 2pm - 5pm17:41
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vishwanathjOn thursday, I see only from 3:10 PM, I am seeing it wrong17:41
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vishwanathjam I seeing it wrong?17:42
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sridhar_ramI know tacker team members talk session goes until 2:10pm (Vish / Yong Sheng) .. we need to rush from there straight to our design sessions17:42
s3wongsridhar_ram: I like that the design summit session (particularly the fishbowl one) is after our talks --- which would allow us to advertise the timeslot at the end of presentation17:42
sridhar_rams3wong: +117:42
sridhar_ramvishwanathj: we have a fishbowl session at 2:20 - 3:00pm17:43
vishwanathjok, got it17:43
brucetNew topic OK?17:44
sridhar_ramHere is the main etherpad for the summit ..17:44
sridhar_ram#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-summit17:44
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sridhar_rambrucet: can you elaborate ?17:44
brucetShould we set up meetings with Tricircle and Artifact Repository teams?17:44
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sridhar_rambrucet: ah, yes.. we need to lay out the agenda for this 3 hr slot17:45
sridhar_ramwe need a section for cross-project interactions..17:45
sridhar_rammultisite / tricircle and sfc are two possible candidates..17:46
brucetArtifact repository is 3rd candidate17:46
sridhar_rambrucet: that is glare project, correct ?17:46
s3wongsridhar_ram: I read from ML that folks from Astara specifically moved their design summit slot so it doesn't conflict with ours17:47
sripriyasridhar_ram: cross project workshops happen on tue as per the pdf link17:47
sridhar_rams3wong: yep, that would be another for sure...17:47
s3wongsridhar_ram: I wonder if they will also show up for collaboration discussion...17:47
sridhar_ramlets collect all the inputs ...17:47
sridhar_ramthese are all good ones..17:48
sridhar_ramplease help to add them to the etherpad link..17:48
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sridhar_ramsripriya: there is a cross-project group within openstack headed by Mike Perez.. will find out more if we can participate there as well17:49
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sripriyasridhar_ram: cool thanks17:49
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sridhar_ramfirst, can you please add your irc to the RSVP to see if we are going to have a quorum17:49
sridhar_ramcan you also add which days you are going to attend - both Thur and Friday or just one of them...17:50
sridhar_rambobh_: what is your availability ?17:51
bobh_sridhar_ram: I'll be there Thursday, traveling Friday afternoon17:51
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sridhar_rambobh_: okay..17:52
sridhar_ramall: please update the etherpad... so that I can help to slot the correct topics based on the subject matter experts!17:52
s3wongsridhar_ram, bobh_: yeah, me too --- like bobh_, I won't be there on Friday afternoon17:52
sridhar_rambobh_: s3wong: would it work if we meet Friday morning instead ?17:53
sridhar_ramwe can always find a physical place to meetup..17:53
bobh_sridhar_ram: Friday morning works - I think I have until noon or so17:53
s3wongsridhar_ram: perhaps... my flight leaves @3:00pm17:54
s3wongsridhar_ram: before noon, perhaps?17:54
sridhar_rambobh_: I believe most of will be in the airport at 3pm ;-)17:54
sridhar_ram*most of us17:55
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bobh_sridhar_ram: yep - 3:12 to ORD17:55
s3wongbobh_, sridhar_ram: looks like we all have similar flight schedule :-)17:55
sridhar_ramlets move Friday meeting to AM - 9:30 - 12:30pm..17:55
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sridhar_ramI'll find a place !17:55
s3wongsridhar_ram: we had been very good at finding a place previously, given that we weren't an official project before :-)17:56
sridhar_ramI'll send a ML email as well for Summit planning ...17:56
sridhar_rams3wong: yep !17:56
sripriyas3wong: :-)17:56
sridhar_ramlet's keep the ideas going to make it an effective design summit..17:56
sridhar_ramlets continue fine tuning our summit agenda in next week's mtg17:57
s3wongsridhar_ram: hopefully we can get trozet there as well17:57
brucetWhere BBQ in agenda??17:57
sridhar_rams3wong: yep!17:57
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s3wongbrucet: it is in Texas, I think BBQ is implied :-)17:57
sridhar_rambrucet: oh yeah, lazed w/ tacker bbq sauce !17:58
s3wongtrozet: good for you to join us :-)17:58
trozets3wong: I'll be at summit17:58
trozets3wong: presenting Tacker+SFC :)17:58
s3wongtrozet: nice! hopefully you will be available Thurs afternoon17:58
sridhar_ramtrozet: already signed up to catch your SFC presentation!17:58
trozets3wong: yeah would love to join on Thurs17:58
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s3wongtrozet: great!17:59
sridhar_ramfolks - there are lots of nice NFV session ... many abstracts mention Tacker!17:59
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sridhar_ramone even exploring projects like Tacker for Enterprise use cases !17:59
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sridhar_ramwhich will be awesome to find & execute..17:59
sridhar_ramwe are out of time...17:59
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sridhar_ram#topic Open Discussion17:59
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sridhar_ramnext time ..!18:00
sridhar_rambye everyone!18:00
s3wongopen discussion of 0 second ...18:00
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markus_z#startmeeting nova-bugs-team18:00
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markus_zcool, we're getting more :)18:01
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markus_zSo, honestly, I don't have a hard agenda here. I mainly use to figure out what needs work.18:01
markus_zsarafraj: You're new here I guess, any questions on the bug process itself?18:02
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sarafrajI did go through wiki regarding this. Ok for now.18:02
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markus_zauggy is busy this week with API work, anyone open for a week of bug skimming? I can help there if needed.18:03
mriedemha https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/120126618:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1201266 in Cinder "'is_public' filter should be handled when nova calls glance via V2" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht)18:04
mriedem995 days old18:04
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markus_zAh, and a change some days ago18:04
mriedemfor cinder18:04
mriedemso with something like that, we have a glance v2 blueprint, we should just add the bug to the blueprint in LP and invalidate it for nova18:05
mriedemi can do that quick18:05
markus_zThat would be great, thank you18:05
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sarafrajmarkus_z: I can help where ever you need, but I am pretty new to Nova so might need to pair up or tag along with someone for assistance.18:06
markus_zsarafraj: yep, we can do that.18:07
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markus_zsarafraj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW18:07
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markus_zThat's the query for new bugs which aren't yet have a proper tag. It's good to start with that.18:07
markus_zsarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags18:08
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sarafrajmarkus_z: So this should be done as bugs get filed, like once a day or something.18:08
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mriedemmarkus_z: so, do the tag owners do any triage?18:08
markus_zsarafraj: yep, once every morning is fine18:08
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sarafrajmarkus_z: ok18:09
markus_zmriedem: I don't see that happen a lot.18:09
markus_zmriedem: api and scheduler is working, the rest, meh18:09
markus_zmriedem: live-migration with PaulMurray works too18:09
markus_zmriedem: I asked on the ML for more bug tag onwners once, but that didn't find any response.18:09
markus_zsarafraj: I'm in the UTC+1 timezone (just in case you wonder when I'm not responding)18:10
mriedemtagging is good to categorize things but if people aren't looking at them it's not very helpful18:10
markus_zmriedem: I'll ask again on the ML, maybe you can throw your PTL weight in18:10
mriedemwell, i can't really force people to triage bugs18:10
mriedemjust like i can't force people to rview code18:11
markus_zagreed. I don't see how I can give incentives here to do it.18:11
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mriedemit does seem like we could spend a day cleaning up a bunch of the garbage though18:11
mriedemlike, we do bug squashing days, but those are for reviewing bug fixes18:11
mriedemmaybe we need a bug triaging / cleanup day18:12
sarafrajmarkus_z: I have a team of 3-4 people for now and growing. I can ask them to start joining. We are dedicated to Nova18:12
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markus_zmriedem: A cleanup day could be useful. Just to remove the old clutter no one really is looking at.18:12
mriedemlike looking at the stale and inconsistent tabs in that dashboard18:12
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mriedemsome of the stale stuff might already be fixed, or no longer valid18:13
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markus_ztrue, takes a little time to do that. When would be the best slot to do such a cleanup day? Before the summit?18:14
markus_zAfter newton-1?18:14
mriedemlet me check the release schedule18:15
mriedemnewton-1 is the end of may, that's too far out18:15
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markus_zI guess the most folks wanna get their specs merged until newton-1 and don't want to spent time on cleaning up bug reports.18:16
mriedemi was thinking like the week before the summit18:16
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mriedemwell we're in spec freeze right now for new things18:16
mriedemand we'll probably lift that a bit after the summit, which will add another level of distraction18:16
mriedemi generally don't expect a lot of code landing the week before the summit b/c people are prepping and traveling18:17
mriedemso that might be a good time to do it18:17
mriedemit needs to be focused though, so what would we want to target from that dashboard?18:17
markus_zmriedem: So, maybe April 18th (MO)?18:18
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mriedemi'd think mostly cleaning up the stale / inconsistent tabs18:18
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markus_zyeah, makes the most sense18:18
mriedemyeah 4/18 probably works18:18
mriedemtuesdays and wednesdays are bad b/c of lots of community meetings18:18
mriedemi'll send something to the dev list18:19
markus_zOK, cool. Let's focus on that.18:19
sarafrajmriedem: Can you please share a link to subscribe to dev list?18:20
markus_zsarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists18:20
sarafrajmarkus_z: thx18:20
markus_zopenstack-dev is the important one18:20
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markus_zAnother item anyone want to talk about?18:21
mriedem#action mriedem to propose a launchpad bug backlog cleanup day for 4/1818:22
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mriedemi don't have anything else18:22
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markus_zOK, let's close for today. Thanks for your participation!18:22
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