Tuesday, 2016-04-19

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tfukushima#startmeeting kuryr03:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 19 03:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:00
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tfukushimaHi guys, we have the weekly Kuryr meeting.03:01
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tfukushimaWho's up for the meeting or I just put some notes.03:02
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tfukushimaOk, it seems everyone is busy this week. ;-(03:04
tfukushima#info tfukushima is present alone ;-(03:05
tfukushima#link My devref for Raven, the API watcher for K8s: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301426/03:05
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tfukushimaThe actual code and the demo would follow in the summit or even later.03:06
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tfukushimaI'll wait for 2 mins and then I'm closing the meeting.03:08
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tfukushimaI can't attend the summit but enjoy it, folks!03:11
tfukushima#endmeeting03:11
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jasondotstar#startmeeting openstack-salt13:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 19 13:02:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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jasondotstar#topic roll call13:02
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jasondotstaro.13:02
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cznewthello13:03
wondra_Hi13:03
jasondotstari there13:03
jasondotstar*hi there13:03
jasondotstar#topic introduction13:04
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cznewtThis meeting for the openstack-salt team13:04
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cznewtif you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt13:04
cznewt#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting13:05
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cznewt#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt13:05
jasondotstarcznewt: +113:05
genunixo/13:05
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jasondotstar#topic  Review past action items13:05
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jasondotstarbusy week last week for me- so all of my stuff is still in progress :-/13:06
jasondotstarfeel free to continue talking about the other items.13:06
genunixok, there's no past action item on packaging but I did a huge step forward in getting salt formulas to debian13:08
genunixsalt-formula-ceilometer was uploaded to Debian unstable today as the first one and the others are ready to go :-)13:09
cznewtgenunix: +513:09
genunix@link https://tracker.debian.org/news/76288313:09
genunix#link https://tracker.debian.org/news/76288313:09
cznewtthis is a huge leap :)13:09
cznewtthe past items review:13:10
cznewtjasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services13:10
jasondotstar#action jasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services13:10
cznewtyes till the next time13:10
jasondotstargenunix: +10013:10
cznewtthe next topic is:13:11
cznewtcznewt to continue prepping the BoF presentation slides for summit13:11
cznewt#link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ytVCUPGfo7lbMLqQwr8gE4Tfu77_apQOG7_u2_2HLQ8/edit?ts=570e52e1#slide=id.p413:12
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cznewtsorry the working link13:13
cznewt#link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ytVCUPGfo7lbMLqQwr8gE4Tfu77_apQOG7_u2_2HLQ8/edit?usp=sharing13:13
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cznewtit's just a rough skeleton, please feel free to comment it13:15
cznewtwe have a week to proceed13:15
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cznewtYou can comment now as well13:18
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cznewt#topic Today's Agenda13:21
cznewtthere's no point listed at todays's agenda so we will skip to13:22
cznewt#topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here)13:22
cznewtwondra_: I'd like to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300725/13:23
cznewtcan you please fix the tests metadata for checks to pass?13:24
jasondotstar#topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here)13:24
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wondra_That's the DVR one.. What should I do?13:24
cznewtthere's a contrail referenced, it should be opencontrail13:25
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wondra_I really don't know how the test setup works.13:26
cznewtyou provide test metadata and the test tries to compile the catalog13:28
cznewtin your case, you're referencing contrail, which is not defined, you need to reference opencontrail13:28
wondra_I'm not referencing anything. I provided some test pillar files.13:29
wondra_Where is the metadata supposed to be and how should it look like?13:30
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genunixwondra_: also please don't use lines longer than 80 characters in commit message13:32
wondra_That I could fix.13:32
cznewtI'll give you more thorough answer afterwards in czech13:32
cznewtI't one of the issues to test this setup in heat lab13:33
cznewt#action cznewt prepare testbed environment for DVR neutron setup13:33
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cznewtI've reviewed the metadata issue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300726/13:37
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cznewtIt looks ok, but I've notices that you update file which is not present in our setup13:38
cznewtthe neutron.conf.Debian does not exist13:38
cznewtin our current setup, what was your starting position for that change?13:39
wondra_Because you use mostly neutron.conf.contrail.Debian or somesuch.13:39
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: We have recovered one of our cloud providers, but there is a huge backlog of jobs to process. Please have patience until your jobs are processed13:40
wondra_Will the quotas work the same with Contrail backend?13:40
cznewtit's another config file13:41
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wondra_Yes, the template for vanilla Neutron is separate from Contrail.13:42
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wondra_And then I have temples for network node and compute node, which are not needed in Contrail.13:43
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wondra_(Well, at least for compute, which is not expected to be co-located with network.)13:44
cznewtwe'll test it this week to get it integrated, I'll send you credentials to join that stack13:46
wondra_OK, thanks.13:46
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cznewtwondra_: I'll have to go now, do you have some IM to get in touch on the testing?13:53
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jasondotstari think we're all done14:00
jasondotstar#endmeeting14:00
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carl_baldwinHi14:02
xiaohhuihi14:02
mlavalleo/14:02
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_routed_networks14:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 19 14:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
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carl_baldwin#topic Announcements14:02
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Routed-Networks14:02
carl_baldwinThe summit is next week!14:02
mlavalleyaay!14:03
carl_baldwinWe will not be having this meeting next week.14:03
xiaohhuido we have discussion at summit about routed network?14:03
carl_baldwinShould we reconvene the week after, or the week after that?14:03
mlavallexiaohhui: we have a discussion with Nova14:03
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: what mlavalle said ^14:03
xiaohhuiok, thanks14:04
carl_baldwinmlavalle: That's on Wednesday, right?  At 11:00?14:04
mlavallecarl_baldwin: right after the summit.... we have a lot to do14:04
mlavallecarl_baldwin: correct, Hilton hotel14:04
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: 11:00 to 11:4014:05
carl_baldwinI'm looking for the schedule link but things are loading very slowly for me today.14:05
mlavallecarl_baldwin: for Nova...14:06
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Nova%3A+14:06
carl_baldwin#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/908914:06
carl_baldwinThere it is ^14:06
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mlavalleand specific for Neutron:14:06
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A+14:07
xiaohhuithanks, guys14:07
carl_baldwinIt will mostly discuss the Nova scheduling aspects.14:07
carl_baldwinI think we should plan to meet for smaller discussions.  I will probably be free on Tuesday but I haven't finalized my schedule.14:07
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?14:08
carl_baldwinOkay, moving on...14:08
carl_baldwin#topic Progress14:09
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carl_baldwin#topic Basic CRUD14:09
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carl_baldwinAfter playing around with this a little last week, I found that I don't understand what armax wants.  So, I talked to him yesterday evening.  I can't say that I fully understand yet except that I shouldn't use a mixin.14:10
mlavallethat we all know... lol14:10
carl_baldwinAnyway, this will be a priority for me this week to figure it out so that we can keep things progressing.14:10
mlavallestay away from mixins14:10
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carl_baldwinRight, but I'm struggling to find any other pattern in the code that is really relevant to this case.  So, it is going to be some trailblazing, I think.14:11
xiaohhuiMaybe we should associate segment with network by updating the network's segments14:12
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xiaohhuiJust like the security-group for a port14:12
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: I actually think I have a better handle on the segment - subnet association.  It is adding segments in the first place that I'm struggling with.14:13
carl_baldwinThe extension manager can be used for the segment - subnet association, I think.14:13
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xiaohhuiI agree. That will fit the spec14:14
xiaohhuiBut the change is big14:14
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xiaohhuibased on the current patches14:14
carl_baldwinI'll get this figured out this week before the summit.14:14
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xiaohhuiSounds great14:15
carl_baldwinI'm going to skip the segment - subnet association topic for now since I won't be able to work on it this week.14:15
carl_baldwin#topic Nova Scheduler14:16
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi14:16
mlavallehi14:16
carl_baldwinApparently there has been some discussion on this in Nova and they don't like something.14:16
carl_baldwinI haven't seen any feedback on the spec yet so I really don't know what they're thinking yet.14:17
mlavalleI am going to ping jaypipes today to make sure we have another conversation this week14:17
carl_baldwinI'm inclined to take kevinbenton 's feedback and split out the deferred IP address stuff and work on that separately.14:18
reedip_the meeting started late? or early?14:18
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mlavalleI suggest listen to jaypipes feedback this week. He might not have been aware of the last revision to the spec14:18
carl_baldwinreedip_: I did start a minute late.14:18
mlavalleso I am going to make sure he is aware of that14:19
carl_baldwinThe only thing that sticks out to me from Dan's feedback is that he doesn't want Nova's allocation to be conditional on an IP already being allocated in Neutron for the port.14:20
mlavallein any case, IMO, it is best if we smooth out any disagreements this week, so we can reach agreements next week14:20
carl_baldwinWhich is what Jay has been saying from the beginning.14:20
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I agree.14:21
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carl_baldwinWe also need to make progress on the other Nova part.14:22
mlavalleso I say let's focus this week on that high bandwidth conversation14:22
carl_baldwinThat is, allowing deferred IP address on a port.14:22
mlavallecarl_baldwin: agree14:22
carl_baldwinThat discussion hasn't gotten any discussion lately as far as I know.14:23
mlavalleyeap14:23
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Anything else?14:23
mlavallethat's it this week14:23
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks!14:24
carl_baldwin#topic Host / Segment Mapping14:24
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mlavallehi again14:24
mlavalleso this week I pushed another revision to the patchset14:25
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/14:25
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carl_baldwinI actually took a peek at it yesterday with armax.14:26
mlavalleI followed sugestion from xiaohhui to pass the bridge mapping to the function14:26
mlavalleany feedback?14:26
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carl_baldwinI thought armax was going to add feedback.  But I can pass it along on the review.14:27
xiaohhuiwhy not just pass the phynet to the function?14:27
mlavallehe hasn't added any yet14:27
mlavallexiaohhui: I get the idea.... Make it work for non agent based drivers. I'll just move to it gradually, becuase I am working on another piece with the SR-IOV driver14:28
xiaohhuiWe plan to extact hostname/physical_net in networking-ovn, but that can be changed.14:29
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I just added comments.14:29
carl_baldwinI think my comment might be along the same lines as xiaohhui 's if I understand correctly.14:29
mlavallecarl_baldwin: I saw that, thanks!14:29
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carl_baldwinI understand that it is a WIP and you may have had the intention to evolve it in this way already.  But, since we had the feedback, I offer it to you.14:30
carl_baldwin:)14:30
mlavalleperfectly welcome. Thanks!14:30
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Anything else on this?14:31
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mlavalleThis week I intend to work on the changes to the SZR-IOV mechanism driver14:31
mlavalleSR-IOV^^^^14:31
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mlavalleThe idea is for it to conform to the same interface as the other in-tree drives, so they all have check_segment_for_agent14:32
carl_baldwinNeed anything?14:32
mlavallethat way we can use this method to check connectivity14:32
mlavallethat's it this week14:32
carl_baldwinThanks.14:32
carl_baldwin#topic Create / delete segment in ML214:33
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xiaohhuiyeah, no code change last week, but some investigation.14:33
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: I think I've seen some activity on this.14:33
carl_baldwinMaybe it was in the form of feedback on other patchs.14:33
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Do you need anything?14:33
xiaohhuiThe currect patch only works for DB, I found there are gaps in ml2.14:34
xiaohhuiThe segment now is created/deleted with network in ml2.14:34
xiaohhuiThe gap is to enable updating the segment of network in l2-agent. There were no such code for now. I think it would be better to code after the CRUD of segment is settled.14:34
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: That is probably wise.14:34
carl_baldwinI don't think this is one of the more urgent pieces.14:35
xiaohhuiI think I need to set WIP to the patch, if it is not done yet14:35
xiaohhuiyeah, But since we now have the chance to update the segment of a network/subnet, we might need to know how to handle it. I will still look into this one.14:36
carl_baldwinI wonder if it would be good to continue trying to get OVN on par with create / delete segments with the network and leave this for a while.14:36
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: okay14:36
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carl_baldwin#topic Segment aware DHCP14:37
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carl_baldwinblogan isn't here today.  I think we can skip this.14:37
carl_baldwin#topic Client14:38
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carl_baldwinrtheis: reedip_ : hi14:38
rtheishi14:38
reedip_yup14:38
carl_baldwinI updated the API based on your feedback.14:38
rtheiscarl_baldwin: thank you14:39
rtheisI've update the OSC patches accordingly.14:39
carl_baldwinrtheis: reedip_ : thanks for the feedback.14:39
reedip_I am waiting for the final API conclusion to update the NeutronClient patch14:39
rtheiscarl_baldwin: and thank you for reviewing the devref in neturonclient14:39
rtheisI am also waiting the same.14:40
carl_baldwinrtheis: Do you have links handy?14:40
rtheisI'm also working with OSC team on devref for beta commands: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305436/14:40
rtheisOSC patches are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290138/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302395/14:41
rtheisSDK patches are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290054/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302223/14:41
carl_baldwinrtheis: Thanks.14:42
rtheisyw14:42
carl_baldwinAnything else?14:42
rtheisnothing else14:42
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reedip_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293305/13 was updated14:42
carl_baldwinreedip_: Thanks.14:42
reedip_But boden had some comments which I can take care of14:42
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carl_baldwinreedip_: I'll take a look at it14:43
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reedip_however the rackspace maintenance(?) has slowed the gate down a bit , so , waiting for the callback from gate :)14:43
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carl_baldwin#topic L2 adjacency14:43
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reedip_I havent worked on this patch from a WIP I published earlier , and had some doubts14:44
reedip_carl_baldwin: I will email you the doubts ( I have them on my office PC)14:44
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reedip_is that ok ?14:44
carl_baldwinreedip_: Yes, that is okay.14:44
reedip_would do them tomorrow morning ( twelve hours from now maybe )14:45
carl_baldwinreedip_: That will be fine.14:45
mlavallereedip_: you attening the Summit next week?14:45
reedip_okay, so that would help me a bit in working on the L2 adjacency14:45
reedip_my Visa is stuck ... I mean I dont know what its status is14:45
reedip_so I am not sure14:45
reedip_if they have approved it or not, and hence my attendance :|14:46
mlavallegood luck with it!14:46
reedip_i need it :) thanks mlavalle :)14:46
carl_baldwinreedip_: good luck, hope to see you.14:46
carl_baldwin#topic OVN and routed networks14:46
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carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Do you have anything?14:46
xiaohhuiWe are working on reading hostname and physical _net from ovn. Next step depends on the patch segment/host mapping.14:46
xiaohhuiThat is all for the ovn in routed network14:47
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Thanks.14:47
mlavallexiaohhui: you coming to Summit?14:47
xiaohhuiyeah14:47
rtheisxiaohhui: is this networking-ovn patch a WIP or good to go? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302623/14:47
mlavallexiaohhui: great, let's talk there :-)14:47
xiaohhuimy visa got approval lat friday14:47
rtheisIf ready to go, I'll try to review this week14:48
xiaohhuiI think it is good to go.14:48
rtheisthank you14:48
xiaohhuiBut it is not that urgent.14:48
rtheisok14:48
carl_baldwin#topic Open Agenda14:50
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carl_baldwinI had a discussion about BGP and routed networks with tidwellr last week.14:50
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carl_baldwinBGP will need to be able to associate speakers with segments.14:51
carl_baldwinI also had a great discussion with kris and mike from GoDaddy last week.  From our discussion, it sounds like what we're doing is going to work for them.14:52
mlavallethat is actually great feedback. Thanks for sharing14:52
carl_baldwinThey'll have a pretty crazy migration from their current solution but it will happen.14:52
mlavalleshould we try to get some early feedback from other operators during Summit?14:53
carl_baldwinThey also might be able to help with enabling floating IPs on a routed network (with no Neutron router).14:53
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: yes, good seque14:53
carl_baldwinThey are having a large deployers team session right after the keynotes on Monday.14:54
carl_baldwinI am planning to attend and do just that.14:54
mlavalleI'll attend with you. Would you share time and location?14:54
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* carl_baldwin looking...14:55
carl_baldwinhttps://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/951514:55
mlavallecarl_baldwin: don't worry, I'll just stick to you :-)14:55
carl_baldwin#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/951514:55
mlavalleThanks!14:56
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carl_baldwinAnything else?14:56
carl_baldwinonce...14:56
carl_baldwintwice...14:56
carl_baldwinOkay, thanks everyone!14:57
carl_baldwin#endmeeting14:57
mlavallethanks!14:57
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rtheisbye14:57
reedip_c u later14:57
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xiaohhuibye14:57
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EmilienM#startmeeting puppet-openstack15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 19 15:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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EmilienM#link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-2016041915:00
EmilienMo/15:00
degorenkoo/15:00
skolekonovhi15:00
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richmhello15:01
EmilienM#topic Review past actions items15:01
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EmilienMwe have a multuple-times postponed action: EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function - I'll catchup with Sofer when he's back (afk today)15:02
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EmilienMmwhahaha to propose a PoC in puppet-openstack-intragation to have section headers in console https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306062/15:02
EmilienMmjblack to propose a PoC in puppet-openstack-intragation to filter Hiera debug and keep only Puppet debug WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304797/15:02
EmilienMchem to investigate how to show puppet manifests for each beaker test -> postponed15:02
EmilienMwe have 2 items and then open discussion15:02
EmilienM#topic CI status15:02
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EmilienMI created this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-ci-status15:03
EmilienMit's also in the /topic of #puppet-openstack channel15:03
EmilienMlet's use it when we find CI issues15:03
EmilienMthe status at this time is, all should be green now, we fixed a bunch of issues yesterday and today15:04
EmilienMbut I ran some tests on stable/liberty / stable/mitaka / master and all looks ok15:04
EmilienMI have 2 updates about CI though :15:04
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EmilienM1) we have now experimental jobs for Xenial (next Ubuntu LTS 16.04)15:05
EmilienMFYI, Canonical won't package Newton on Trusty, which means we have to make this job voting by the end of Newton cycle15:05
EmilienMwe'll continue to run trusty jobs on stable/liberty and stable/mitaka though15:06
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EmilienMany help is highly welcome to make it happen15:06
mwhahahaFuel is attempting to do Xenial this cycle as well15:06
EmilienMexcellent, let's coordinate efforts15:06
mjblackEmilienM: will mitaka work on Xenial?15:06
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EmilienMmjblack: I don't know but we won't test it15:06
mfischhere sorry im late15:06
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EmilienMthe plan is: keep trusty jobs on master until Newton is packaged on Xenial (should happen after summit) and switch to Xenial jobs when we have Newton packaging, and make them non voting15:07
EmilienMand of course keep Trusty jobs on stable branches15:07
EmilienMis it fine for everyone?15:08
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degorenkono objections15:08
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_odyWe started inquiring Ubuntu on how they are going to support puppet 3 through the Xenial cycle.  We EOL Puppet 3 before the LTS goes EOL.15:08
EmilienM_ody: which LTS?15:09
mfisch14.04 I assume15:09
_odySorry Ubuntus.15:09
_odyXenial is so far shipping Puppet 3 too.15:09
mwhahaha16.04 is also ruby 2.315:10
mfischoh, so puppet3 for 5 more years?15:10
EmilienMmwhahaha: w00t15:10
EmilienMjust to be clear, puppet 3 will EOL with Xenial EOL?15:11
_odyYeah...I just noticed.15:11
EmilienMok15:11
_odyEmilienM: No.  Way before15:11
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EmilienMok so we need to keep Puppet3 testing until official distros ship it15:12
EmilienMwe have periodic jobs running on puppet4 atm, they are still not working correctly, but I'm on it. They should be fixed today or so15:12
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xarseso/15:13
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EmilienMand for the update 2), I'm working on bumping our CI to Newton RDO packaging, but I'm having lot of issues, most of them are tracked and WIP15:13
EmilienMthe biggest blocker is https://review.openstack.org/30748215:14
EmilienMneutron switched to tempest plugin and have 300 tests in smike15:14
EmilienMsmoke*15:14
EmilienMdo we have any question / comment about CI?15:14
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EmilienMok let's move15:15
EmilienM#topic Summit schedule15:15
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EmilienMso just a reminder about interesting sessions for our group :15:15
EmilienMon Tuesday, there is a Cross Project workshops: Deployment tools discussion15:16
EmilienMI'll be there to talk with other teams (kolla, ansible, etc), feel free to join15:16
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EmilienMall Puppet sessions are tracked here: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Puppet%20OpenStack%3A15:17
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EmilienM#link Summit etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-puppet15:17
mfisch_ody has one about openstack at puppet labs too15:17
EmilienM#link Summit schedule https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Puppet%20OpenStack%3A15:17
mfischa talk not a sesison15:17
EmilienMmfisch: a talk ?15:17
EmilienMah ok15:17
mfischyeah sorry no coffee yet for me ;)15:18
_odyhttps://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/877215:18
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EmilienM_ody: your talk overlaps with Puppet OpenStack: Project Update - Mitaka retrospective and Newton Plans 2/215:18
EmilienM:(15:18
EmilienMgood luck anyway !15:19
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EmilienMdo we have any (last) suggestion for summit?15:20
EmilienMok15:20
EmilienM#topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here)15:20
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EmilienMnothing? :)15:21
EmilienMquite meeting today, I guess it's a busy week15:21
EmilienMI'll close the meeting in 30s15:21
mfischsee eveyrone in Austin15:21
mjblackEmilienM: one sec15:22
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mjblackI have one thing to bring up15:22
* EmilienM stop moving15:22
mjblackwe every so often see the CI fail because of an issue with puppet-keystone15:22
EmilienMlink?15:22
mjblackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-keystone/+bug/156939015:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1569390 in puppet-keystone "restarting apache sometimes fails" [Undecided,New]15:22
mfischalready in use15:23
EmilienMlink of logs? I never saw that15:23
mfischis eventlet running too?15:23
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mjblackmfisch: the module should be turning off the eventlet15:23
EmilienMwe don't turn it on15:23
mwhahahawe see that from time to time, less so recently i think15:23
EmilienMweird15:24
EmilienMnext time, please add log links15:24
mwhahahai think it might be because we don't give apache enough time to shutdown between tasks15:24
EmilienMmwhahaha: in the exec?15:24
mwhahahayea15:24
mwhahahabut we'll have to review next time it happens15:24
mjblackthe exec is doing a service apache2 restart call15:24
mfischthats the only explaination unless eventlet is running15:24
mwhahahain fuel we ran into issues with apache2 restarts15:24
EmilienMmwhahaha: how do you handle it?15:25
mwhahahaso we do it excessively i think15:25
mwhahahai'll have to go check it out15:25
mwhahahai think we override the restart command15:25
mwhahahathere was a bug in mod_wsgi or something15:25
EmilienMto what?15:25
mwhahahahttps://github.com/openstack/fuel-library/blob/c3491543decb9f5600e5a17e4a82c6617f49d6c0/deployment/puppet/tweaks/manifests/apache_wrappers.pp15:25
mjblackits more of an annoyance but with CI, if we solve it, it'll cut down on some rechecks15:25
EmilienMdoes apachectl works on centos?15:26
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mwhahahai think so15:26
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EmilienMmwhahaha: could we fix it in puppet-keystone? i think it would be very useful15:26
xarsesit used to15:26
xarsesnot sure anymore15:26
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mwhahahai'd say lets look deeper next time it happens15:27
mwhahahaand see if that's the true cause15:27
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EmilienMok15:27
EmilienManything else for today?15:27
EmilienMthanks everyone15:28
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EmilienMsee you next week15:28
EmilienMiurygregory: don't forget chocolate15:28
EmilienM#endmeeting15:29
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sridhar_ram#startmeeting tacker17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 19 17:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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sridhar_ram#topic Roll Call17:01
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bobho/17:01
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sridhar_ramgood morning, good afternoon and good evening - for all the folks around the globe!17:02
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sripriyao/17:02
sridhar_ramlets start..17:03
sridhar_ram#topic Agenda17:03
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sridhar_ram#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Apr_19.2C_201617:03
sridhar_ramanything else beyond this ?17:03
sridhar_ram#topic Annoucement17:04
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sripriyasridhar_ram: cherypicks to stable/mitaka17:04
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sridhar_ramsripriya: sure, good one..17:04
LouisFhi17:04
sridhar_ramLouisF: hi !17:05
sridhar_ramT-1 for Summit !17:05
sridhar_ramof course we won't have weekly meeting next week..17:06
sridhar_ram.. I also propose to cancel the weekly meeting immediately after the summit.17:06
sridhar_ram.. on May 3rd.17:06
sripriya+117:06
sridhar_ramsripriya: thanks, anyone else ?17:07
bobh+117:07
sridhar_ramalright.. canceled. Next meeting will be on May 10th.17:08
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dkushwahasridhar_ram, peoples who are unable to attend summit, can join discussions remotely ?17:08
sridhar_ram#topic Newton Summit17:09
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sridhar_ramdkushwaha: yes, I'm planning to setup a google hangout or webex17:09
sridhar_ramwill update the etherpad with details by early next week...17:09
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sridhar_ramSummit Etherpad.. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-summit17:10
sripriyasridhar_ram: dkushwaha: is this for the developer tracks?17:10
dkushwahasridhar_ram, It will be very helpful.17:10
dkushwahasripriya, yes17:10
janki91sridhar_ram: dkushwaha: this is a very good idea17:10
sridhar_ramsripriya: yes, some of the European folks where asking for this as well17:10
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sridhar_ramthough, one caveat ... please keep in mind, this is best effort commitment...17:11
sridhar_ramdesign summits are inherently interactive .. we can't, for e.g., repeat the question that was asked in the floor17:12
sripriyayes,etherpad chats should be best used :-)17:12
sridhar_ramsripriya: yes, we need some discipline in handling a "formal" design summit session17:13
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sridhar_ramabove summit etherpad is the main landing page..17:13
s3wongsorry, late17:13
sridhar_ramI anticipate individual subject specific etherpad as needed..17:14
sripriyasridhar_ram: should we nominate ourselves to capture meeting minutes on etherpad for each of the tracks17:14
sridhar_rambobh: you are going to put on together for everything related to TOSCA ?17:14
bobhsridhar_ram: yes17:14
sridhar_ramsripriya: I've marked some folks as leads ... so someone other than them should help to capture the minutes / discussion in the etherpad17:15
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sripriyasridhar_ram: yeah17:15
sridhar_ramtrozet: s3wong: please plan to lead the Tacker VNFFG / SFC discussion17:15
s3wongsridhar_ram: sure17:16
s3wongdoesn't look like a lot of folks would be at the summit Friday PM :-)17:16
sridhar_ramI've also marked Friday morning contributor meetup for Tacker Architecture evolution17:16
sridhar_rams3wong: we decided to move the Friday meetup to AM17:17
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sridhar_rambrucet: will you be available on Friday AM to join this discussion ?17:17
brucetYes17:17
brucetMy flightbout is PM Friday17:18
s3wongbrucet: seems to be the case for everybody :-)17:18
sridhar_ramamong other things, I'd like to discuss / drive some clarity on Tacker VNFM / NFVO separation ..17:18
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sridhar_rambobh: for TOSCA here are the main things I've in mind... (a) move tacker nfv definitions up into tosca-parser (b) discussion supporting VNFC / SoftwareComponent, (c) CSAR support17:20
bobhsridhar_ram: ok17:20
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sridhar_rambobh: (c) based on our previous chat.. anything else in this area ?17:20
bobhsridhar_ram: I don't think so - there is new support for Policies and Groups coming into tosca-parser that we can leverage17:21
sridhar_rambobh: Sure. I also see few things are cross-track - VNF Scaling and recent TOSCA Scaling effort.. I'd like to discuss this as well17:22
bobhsridhar_ram: yep17:22
sridhar_ramnext on refactoring / technical debt...17:22
sridhar_ramI'd  like to hear all of your top of your mind technical debt that you would like to have it fixed...17:23
sripriyasridhar_ram: heat driver17:23
sridhar_ramplease rattle out as it comes to your mind...17:24
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sridhar_ramsripriya: couldn't agree more...17:24
s3wongsridhar_ram: long time ago we talked about moving the ping/http monitoring driver out of server for scalability reason, is it time to finally install agents?17:25
sripriyasridhar_ram: monitor file refactoring17:25
sripriyas3wong: :-) jinxed!17:25
sridhar_ramindeed :)17:25
s3wongsripriya: :-)17:25
bobhs3wong: agents or just external threads?17:25
sridhar_rams3wong: that is something we can discuss as part of arch-evolution..17:26
s3wongbobh: definitely something outside of where Tacker server is running17:26
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s3wongbobh: at least IMHO :-)17:26
sripriyasridhar_ram: in terms of monitoring referrring, i was referring to removing the action policies out of monitor file17:26
sridhar_ramthis goes to the previous comment where there  is now one monolithic server..17:26
sripriya* refactoring17:26
bobhs3wong: I agree, issue is always the details17:27
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sridhar_rama tacker-vnfm-mon-agent taking through an rpc bus back to tacker-vnfm-server is something we should consider17:28
sridhar_ramthat design pattern is quite common on various openstack services17:28
s3wongsridhar_ram: agreed --- particularly, if different VNFs have different monitoring need and policies, funneling all of that into a single server is a bit much17:29
sridhar_ramone challenge, some class of monitoring driver doesn't belong in the tacker-vnfm code base.. instead it could come in the CSAR bundle17:30
sridhar_ramin fact, I envision a model where mon drivers are actually registered with tacker when things come up...17:31
brucetI actually think you should think about packaging when considering this problem.17:31
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brucetThe monitoring function may be specific to a VNFM, so it should be possible to package the monitoring function with the VNFM.17:31
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sripriyasridhar_ram: does that involve an external monitoring agent?17:31
sridhar_rambrucet: true some mon drivers are generic like ping, http-ping, perhaps bfd..17:32
sridhar_rambut some might be quite custom to a specific VNF...17:32
s3wongbrucet: in fact, it is even possible that some monitoring is specific to an VNF17:32
brucetExactly17:32
sridhar_ramtoday we have to have a entry point in setup.cfg *before* tacker server start.. that's bad17:33
sripriya+1 totally agree17:33
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sridhar_ramsome of these can be fixed in refactoring cycles.. other might go into arch evolution ..17:34
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sridhar_ramI'd request your help to break down each such idea into smaller "units of work" ..17:35
sridhar_ram. without that we would only be talking about this forever :)17:36
sridhar_ramI think we have primed our brain to think in this area of refactoring now...17:36
s3wongsridhar_ram: true :-)17:36
sridhar_ramplease bring your ideas for some nice debates next week17:37
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sripriyasridhar_ram: we can have a separate etherpad for monitoring framework discussion to breakdown these ideas?17:37
sridhar_ramanything else related to newton summit ?17:37
dkushwahasridhar_ram, isn't good to lock  bugs for all, for better tracking?17:37
sridhar_ramsripriya: good idea...17:37
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sridhar_ramsripriya: created a dummy page for now.. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-monitoring-refactor17:39
sripriyasridhar_ram: i was just creating one, cool thanks17:40
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: we can consider creating RFE bugs once we decide what to do and break down into individual chunks17:40
sridhar_rambreaking down will help for new developers joining tacker community as well...!17:40
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sridhar_ramAlso don't forget to attend many Tacker related sessions...17:41
sridhar_ramthere is at least 3 talk session, one birds of feature and a hands on lab !17:42
sridhar_ramshould be fun17:42
sridhar_rammoving on...17:42
sridhar_ram#topic VNF Scaling17:42
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sridhar_ramjust a quick heads up...17:42
brucetOK. My head is up.17:43
sridhar_rama contributor named Tung Doan has submitted a blueprint and some WIP code that looks promising :)17:43
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sridhar_rambrucet: yeah, thought you will be interested17:43
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s3wongsridhar_ram: for auto-scaling?17:43
sridhar_ram#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306562/17:44
sridhar_rams3wong: yes..17:44
sripriyaand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306256/17:44
sridhar_ramany chance Tung Doan here in the meeting ?17:44
brucetFrom a quick look, this makes perfect sense17:45
sridhar_ramglad to see the proposal !17:45
sridhar_rambrucet: yep!17:45
brucetI think unrelated to dcaling though17:45
s3wongjust as we talked about monitoring driver... a spec is filed to integrate Ceilometer... :-)17:46
sridhar_rambrucet: if you see the examples some of the action routine for cpu_util is scale-up...17:46
brucetExactly. And makes sense17:46
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brucetOK. I'll look further17:46
sripriyas3wong: actually it was registered quite sometime back17:46
s3wongsripriya: four days ago... :-)17:47
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sridhar_rams3wong: exactly.. this has multiple touch points. one is the TOSCA parser work on Scaling..17:47
sripriyahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/alarm-based-monitoring-driver17:47
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s3wongsripriya: yeah, that one is about a month... and no approver...17:48
sridhar_ramlets converge on this spec and help to shape it up...17:48
sridhar_ramI'd like to get manual scaling "designed" in as well, if not implement..17:49
sridhar_ramthey (auto-scaling & manual scaling) need to gel well in the design and in the TOSCA templates17:49
brucetI had a discussion a while back about manual vs. automatic sclaing17:49
brucetI think the conclusion we came to is that a single implementation can easily do both17:49
bobhmanual scaling could simply invoke the same trigger as automatic scaling - just do it manually17:50
brucetI think discussion was via email17:50
brucetExactly17:50
sripriyasridhar_ram: the scaling model needs to be generic enough to adapt to both auto and manual scaling ...17:50
sridhar_rambrucet: yeah, it will be good to bring it into gerrit17:50
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sridhar_ramsripriya: agree..17:50
brucetOK. I'll find it in my email and post.17:50
sridhar_rammanual scaling could be "tacker vnf-update --vnf foo --vdu VDU2 --action scale-up17:51
brucetsridhar_ram: Please tell me where to post it17:51
sripriyasridhar_ram: should this be scale up or scale out?17:51
sridhar_rambrucet: lets use the gerrit link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306562/17:51
sridhar_ramsripriya: oops, NO, NO scale-up / down...17:52
brucetHmmm.... I think that's different17:52
sridhar_ramonly scale-out and scale-in17:52
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sridhar_ramwe can discuss more on this next week...17:52
brucetThere was a blueprint done for scaling a while ago.17:52
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brucetI'll find it and update based on email thread17:52
sridhar_rambrucet: yes, one from prashantD_ ...17:52
sripriyaso the action should be --action scale-out?17:52
brucetThink so17:53
s3wongyeah, auto-scaling was an item we penciled into roadmap since we came back from Liberty (Vancouver) summit17:53
sridhar_rambrucet: .. it will be good to incorporate the ideas into this new one17:53
sridhar_ramsripriya: yes...17:53
sridhar_rams3wong: yep, we have punted this enough... we need to get it one way or the other in Newton17:53
sridhar_ramfolks - lets park the scaling discussion here... lets continue next week17:54
sridhar_rammoving on...17:54
sridhar_ram#topic stable/mitaka cherrypick17:54
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sridhar_ramsripriya: ^17:54
sripriyasridhar_ram: yeah, just wanted to remind tackers to cherrypick their commits to mitaka if they think that needs to be added to stable release17:55
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sridhar_ramsripriya: do we need original owners to do cherrypick or others can do ?17:56
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sripriyathis can include regressions/rfes/improvements if you think it needs to be merged to mitaka release, please do so accordingly17:56
sripriyasridhar_ram: i guess owners can take it up because there may be merge conflicts to handle17:56
sripriyaand i assume they would know it better17:57
sridhar_ramokay..17:57
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sridhar_ramdevs - please look at your patchsets that merged in the last 3 weeks and do a cherrypick to stable/mitaka17:57
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: you might have a sizable number !17:58
janki91sridhar_ram: sripriya: just clicking on cherrypick button will work?17:58
sripriyait is also important to merge important fixes this week, as tacker hands on session team may use our mitaka branch to demo VNFM17:58
sripriyathanks everyone17:58
sridhar_ramjanki91: yep, most of the time that would work..17:58
dkushwahasridhar_ram, yep, looking into that17:58
janki91I have made changes in the latest tacker release cloning master from github17:59
janki91does it reflect mitaka?17:59
sridhar_rambobh: would you be able to wrap up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299737/ ?17:59
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sridhar_rambobh: we can take it up in the #tacker channel18:00
sripriyajanki91: nope , you need to cherrypick that to mitaka18:00
sripriyahere are the guidelines18:00
sripriyahttp://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html18:00
sridhar_ramFolks - have a safe trip to Austin18:00
sridhar_ramsee you all next week18:00
sridhar_ram#endmeeting18:00
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