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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 13:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | o/ | 13:00 |
| oomichi_ | hi | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | let's start the meeting | 13:01 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #topic API Priorities | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | For api policy discovery, I guess no more update last week? | 13:02 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: I think it's just about the specs right now | 13:02 |
| sdague | the policy in code spec seems pretty solid, a good starting point for summit | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, i think so | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | so just jump to api ref | 13:03 |
| sdague | the policy over the API has concerns about formatting that cdent brought up | 13:03 |
| * alex_xu always jump at wrong time | 13:03 | |
| sdague | I think that's the interesting question about whether exposing the policy raw format this cycle is a step forward or back | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, it feels like it might be worth a cycle to tidy up policy before we expose it | 13:03 |
| sdague | I put an alternative that we could do the plumbing, put in a conf option to expose it (off by default) | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | if there is good propose, i think we can use it instead of raw format | 13:04 |
| sdague | alex_xu: well, the challenge is getting that format is going to be a while I think | 13:04 |
| sdague | but I think we're going to learn a lot in actually putting it on the wire | 13:04 |
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| sdague | so I'd still like to do that work, even if off by default, and we tell people this format isn't guarunteed | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea | 13:05 |
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| cdent | seems reasonable | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: could we make use of the experimental API flag for this? | 13:05 |
| sdague | anyway, I left that as a comment on the review | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | as experimental | 13:05 |
| cdent | we've had issues in the past, though, with exposed stuff becoming natural defaults despite warnings | 13:05 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: honestly, I wouldn't even do that | 13:05 |
| sdague | I would not document this API | 13:05 |
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| sdague | it will be turned on / off by a CONF variable | 13:06 |
| sdague | it will default off | 13:06 |
| cdent | I think that's a good way to get the experience of making it happen without the danger of people adapting to it | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, yeah, I am warming to that idea | 13:06 |
| gmann_ | +1, without putting it in doc is safe side | 13:06 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: that means the exposing api is added without microversion bump | 13:06 |
| sdague | yeh, we could even emit a warning in the logs if the conf it turned on | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | we no a big band approach almost always fails, this would let us evolve it | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oops s/band/bang/ | 13:07 |
| sdague | oomichi_: I get that is strictly true | 13:07 |
| cdent | it's only natural you'd make that mistake johnthetubaguy | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: heh | 13:07 |
| * cdent oompahs | 13:07 | |
| oomichi_ | interesting approach for me | 13:08 |
| sdague | I think if we basically make this a WARNing to turn on, we're going to say we don't believe this exists at this point | 13:08 |
| sdague | the REST semantics of the resources should be basically fixed at this | 13:08 |
| sdague | at this point, it's the payload that isn't | 13:08 |
| sdague | which is the problem | 13:08 |
| sdague | once we get the payload we like, this goes on unconditionally, then we do the microversion bump | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I honestly quite like the president this sets, it seems worth a go | 13:10 |
| sdague | anyway, that's the best idea I've got in how to make incremental and forward progress here | 13:10 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, cool | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | sounds good plan | 13:10 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: that is a new way to use microversion, +1 | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | the microversion bump means any tooling that users the final has to be different to stuff accessing the experimental stuff, but thats perfect | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | that solves the need I was thinking adding the experimental API flag would fix | 13:11 |
| sdague | ok, we should probably write this plan back into the spec | 13:11 |
| sdague | anyone want to volunteer for that? | 13:11 |
| sdague | claudio_ here? | 13:12 |
| * johnthetubaguy hopes the bot got all that | 13:12 | |
| gmann_ | even we can adopt that in future for other such case we need time to setup the things | 13:12 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I'm sure it did, but we should condense it back | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: totally | 13:12 |
| sdague | gmann_: yeh, I was thinking the same thing. We'll see how terrible an idea it turns out to be. | 13:12 |
| sdague | volunteer to update the spec? | 13:13 |
| cdent | I can do it | 13:13 |
| sdague | cdent: thanks! | 13:13 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea, that's nice | 13:13 |
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| * alex_xu typing slow, and lose than cdent | 13:13 | |
| alex_xu | cdent: thanks! | 13:13 |
| sdague | ok, I think that one is done, next topic? | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | yes, should be the api ref | 13:14 |
| cdent | #action cdent to update policy over api spec to reflect pre-microversion handling | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | cdent: thanks again | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | looks like good progress on api-ref, a lot of fix for doc recently | 13:15 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: yea just ran tox and seems like we left with baremetal etc which sdague has patch up | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | that is cool | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | sdague: what is next plan? | 13:16 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: sdague we need response parameter addition for most of them | 13:16 |
| sdague | alex_xu: there are still some warnings to get purged so we can turn warnings into errors | 13:16 |
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| sdague | right, then we move into the content phase and actually need to go through each of the parameters lists and make sure they match up correctly | 13:17 |
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| gmann_ | yea | 13:17 |
| sdague | I had that 4 step process for each file | 13:17 |
| jichen | +1 | 13:17 |
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| sdague | auggy was working on some tools to generate bugs for these, but it's going a bit slow | 13:17 |
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| sdague | so I was kind of wondering if we should instead set a set of comments at the top of each file for the for 4 steps needed | 13:18 |
| sdague | then when we believe each bit is done we remove that comment | 13:18 |
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| sdague | as a way to track work | 13:18 |
| sdague | I was kind of wondering what opinions people wanted to have here | 13:19 |
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| sdague | because it was great to get so many folks helping with samples files cleanup | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | i like that idea, at least better than etherpad | 13:19 |
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| sdague | yeh, giant etherpads kind of suck | 13:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I like removing lines in the file as work is done | 13:20 |
| gmann_ | sounds good, fix or audit can keep removing those | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | as long as the merge conflicts are not terrible, and sounds like it should be OK in this case? | 13:20 |
| sdague | ok, I can get those built today, as well as a wiki page with detailed instructions on what we expect | 13:20 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, they aren't terrible | 13:21 |
| sdague | the biggest thing you need to do is keep an eye on open patches | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | this feels like something we can get OSIC to help with, alex_xu do you agree? | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, yet a topic folks are checking like the centralise config work | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, agree, that will help a lot | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I will try get that added on the list | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: cool | 13:22 |
| sdague | I've also moved to doing fast approve (single +2) for most of these changes, to help on that. Because keeping the outstadning patches low is part of how we avoid merge conflicts | 13:22 |
| sdague | bp:api-ref-in-rst | 13:22 |
| sdague | is the blueprint / topic for this work | 13:22 |
| sdague | and I look at that a couple times a day now | 13:22 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea that helped a lot | 13:23 |
| gmann_ | fast merge | 13:23 |
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| sdague | we've managed to get a lot done pretty quickly already | 13:23 |
| sdague | which is awesome | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | +1 | 13:23 |
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| sdague | thanks to everyone here for those patches and reviews | 13:23 |
| sdague | ok, so here I think is the concrete next steps | 13:24 |
| sdague | #action sdague to create wiki page documenting the content checks that should be done for every file | 13:24 |
| sdague | #action sdague to push comments into all inc files saying that they all need to go through this | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | sdague: also you are turning warning to error right? | 13:25 |
| sdague | gmann_: as soon as I get these last warnings closed | 13:25 |
| sdague | I think I'm down to 22 locally | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | ok | 13:25 |
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| sdague | gmann_, alex_xu, jichen it's late there right, I'm assuming that you all are pretty much done for the day | 13:26 |
| sdague | so I can try to get that all sorted before your tomorrow | 13:26 |
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| sdague | so that you can run at things then | 13:26 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: yea, that will be nice. +1 | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, sounds cool | 13:26 |
| jichen | sdague: ok, thx | 13:26 |
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| sdague | I guess, the other question I have is are there people not comming to summit? Because I'd like to make it so we could still make progress with patches next week if people are not at summit and want to make patches. | 13:27 |
| jichen | I will not go to because of VISA issue | 13:28 |
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| sdague | jichen: ok, I'll make sure to review api-ref patches every morning at summit, so feel free to push them and we'll still try to land those next week | 13:28 |
| jichen | sdague: ok, thanks ! | 13:29 |
| * alex_xu will try also if he can get enough sleep | 13:29 | |
| jichen | :) | 13:29 |
| alex_xu | or i can't sleep | 13:29 |
| sdague | :) | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | that's good option :) | 13:30 |
| sdague | ok, cool. any other questions on the api-ref work? | 13:30 |
| cdent | sdague: I'm won't be at summit, but I'm taking most of next week off, so won't be ablle to help (with that). | 13:30 |
| sdague | also, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/ is live and gets updated on every merge | 13:30 |
| sdague | so we can see the whole thing evolving | 13:30 |
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| sdague | if no other questions, I think we're done with this topic | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | that is surprised me | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: awesome to see that there :) | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:32 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308026/ | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | cdent: i guess this is yours | 13:32 |
| cdent | ah, yeah, I just wanted to point out it was athere | 13:33 |
| cdent | but it seems likely that for at least now the alternative of "do nothing" might be the best bet | 13:33 |
| cdent | it depends on how people feel about the proposed solution (which is localised to just one file) | 13:33 |
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| sdague | cdent: theory question, if nova used flask instead of it's home grown wsgi stack, would this be a solved problem for us? | 13:35 |
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| cdent | It depends in part on how the routing was done, but for the usual case, yes | 13:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | did we agree 404->405 doesn't need a microversion bump? | 13:36 |
| sdague | items like this I'd rather solve by getting nova over to flask as a long term goal | 13:36 |
| cdent | sdague: I think that's a _huge_ task | 13:37 |
| sdague | cdent: I agree | 13:37 |
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| sdague | however, I think that once we can delete legacyv2 stack | 13:37 |
| cdent | the way nova does wsgi is so wrapped up in itself is only part of the problem | 13:37 |
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| cdent | the other half of the problem is that flask is not really wsgi | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | i guess just one line fix for current homemade wsgi stack? | 13:37 |
| sdague | and we can actually remove the extensions facility entirely | 13:38 |
| oomichi_ | current tempest also is testing based on 404 expectation on the other services also | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:38 |
| oomichi_ | this affects huge area | 13:38 |
| sdague | alex_xu: is it, I thought there was a bunch of open questions on how routes handles things | 13:38 |
| sdague | oomichi_: I'm not convinced tempest is testing this bit at all | 13:38 |
| sdague | this is a set of negative space that no one has really thought to poke | 13:39 |
| cdent | it's slightly more than one line, but the lines can all be in one place | 13:39 |
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| oomichi_ | sdague: ok, but this behavior seems on many other services | 13:39 |
| sdague | oomichi_: well, not really | 13:40 |
| sdague | lots of places use 405 incorrectly :) | 13:40 |
| sdague | including us I think | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | cdent: ok, i just though 'not supported method' means there isn't a route for it. | 13:40 |
| oomichi_ | yeah, I agree :) | 13:40 |
| sdague | it also seems weird to make this change before our 405/501 are handled | 13:40 |
| cdent | alex_xu: routes will return none when there is a route, but no method and when there is no route, which mean different things | 13:40 |
| sdague | because that seems to further confuse what method not found means | 13:41 |
| cdent | the reason I landed on this particular issue was because it is somewhat localized: the "problem" happens before entering the actual service apps (it happens in middleware) | 13:41 |
| cdent | so it is more straightforward to fix than some of the other problems | 13:42 |
| cdent | the complexity comes in on the expected impact on users and performance | 13:42 |
| sdague | cdent: right, but it does I think create more confusion given that we still have incorrect 405/501 usage. Because we are overloading those before removing the old wrong use. | 13:43 |
| * cdent nods | 13:43 | |
| cdent | Well, the spec is there if we wish to pursue it. There wasn't a lot of time lost in writing it and it will keep. | 13:43 |
| cdent | I also have similar questions to a semi-related bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304958/ | 13:44 |
| sdague | ok, cool, up for comment by folks | 13:44 |
| cdent | s/bug/bug fix/ | 13:44 |
| cdent | there's debate on that about the need for microversion. The author has come to me seeking clarification since he thought the need was resolved | 13:44 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304958 seems like a straigh up bugfix to me honestly | 13:45 |
| cdent | I let him know, since he is new to openstack, that it takes several rounds for any question/conversation to clearly resolve | 13:45 |
| cdent | as additional people join into the process | 13:45 |
| sdague | my comment on April 13 I think was clear there | 13:45 |
| cdent | sdague: yes, but followups de-clarified it | 13:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | did the v2.1 version fix this already? | 13:46 |
| sdague | ok, I hadn't seen the unit test fixes | 13:46 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: no, this happens super early in processing | 13:46 |
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| alex_xu | i think we agree on fix it without microversion, looks like clearly | 13:46 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304958/4/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py | 13:46 |
| sdague | ok, I just +2ed it | 13:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: oh, I see now, thanks | 13:47 |
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| cdent | edleafe: do you want re-present your concerns or are you satisfied? | 13:47 |
| sdague | so anyone else that wants to approve, please do so | 13:47 |
| * alex_xu will try after the meeting | 13:47 | |
| gmann_ | then we need backport for kilo/liberty/mitaka ? | 13:47 |
| edleafe | cdent: no, if it is considered a bug fix | 13:47 |
| cdent | cool | 13:48 |
| cdent | or even | 13:48 |
| cdent | k3wl | 13:48 |
| sdague | gmann_: yeh, it's definitely up for that | 13:48 |
| sdague | gmann_: you want to propose backports once we land this in master? | 13:48 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: sure but tomorrow morning only | 13:48 |
| sdague | gmann_: yeh, that's fine | 13:48 |
| sdague | no rush | 13:48 |
| gmann_ | ok | 13:48 |
| mriedem | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/evaluating_api_changes.html | 13:49 |
| mriedem | Changing an error response code to be more accurate. | 13:49 |
| mriedem | this falls under that | 13:49 |
| mriedem | "The following types of changes are generally considered acceptable:" | 13:49 |
| sdague | yep | 13:49 |
| mriedem | the confusion probably comes from our microversion docs | 13:49 |
| mriedem | about changing error codes that weren't previously returned | 13:49 |
| mriedem | we might want to use this as a test against that doc | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | to see if it makes sense | 13:50 |
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| sdague | yeh, honestly, we might want to remove that bit, I feel like most of the time that's just caused more confusion than it's helped with | 13:50 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_dev.html#when-do-i-need-a-new-microversion | 13:50 |
| mriedem | the response section is the confusing part | 13:50 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:50 |
| mriedem | the list of status codes allowed for a particular request | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | looks like hard to form a doc to guide all the cases | 13:52 |
| sdague | right, sometimes we just need humans :) | 13:52 |
| mriedem | at some point there will be a robot with common sense | 13:53 |
| mriedem | and it will rule the world | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | that is something i hope we have one intially, but that is failed | 13:53 |
| cdent | DEATH TO ALL HUMANS | 13:53 |
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| gmann_ | heh | 13:53 |
| cdent | (is what a robot with common sense will say) | 13:53 |
| mriedem | maybe we just add 415 to this list of exceptions http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_dev.html#f2 | 13:53 |
| mriedem | that's an easy compromise | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | sdague: is there more restrict way to review which api change needn't microversion? | 13:54 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: can you rephrase the question? | 13:54 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure we could, I also think that items like this need to ponder the client fallout | 13:54 |
| sdague | in this case, the odds that someone is pushing random content types and requiring a 400 to tell them they pushed gorp, is highly unlikely | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | sdague: sorry, we have spec to describe the api change with microversion, what about without microversion? but I definitly don't want another spec for it. | 13:55 |
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| sdague | and being more specific with a 415 actually helps someone debug their application | 13:55 |
| sdague | because it helps tell them what they did wrong | 13:55 |
| mriedem | yeah, i've approved the change and marked the bug as backportable for mitaka and liberty | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its more when the user gets more information, and can change their "resolution" of the error, that its useful to know whats going on, I guess? | 13:56 |
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| sdague | right, I feel like another giant attempt to build a finite state machine for review judgement for all possible changes isn't really fruitful | 13:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ack | 13:56 |
| sdague | there is a time and a place for human judgement and consideration | 13:56 |
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| alex_xu | ok :) | 13:56 |
| sdague | this is one of them | 13:56 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:57 |
| * alex_xu reminder 3 mins left | 13:57 | |
| sdague | ok, so I've got a change up, that people should think about, and hits another one of these judgments | 13:57 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307186/ | 13:58 |
| * alex_xu window bare | 13:58 | |
| alex_xu | oops | 13:58 |
| sdague | which is based on bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1567621 | 13:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1567621 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Scripts requesting v3 get multiple choices with bad URLs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Dague (sdague) | 13:58 |
| sdague | the issue is that weird 300 multi option return we have | 13:58 |
| sdague | which, is very unlikely to be useful to anyone | 13:58 |
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| alex_xu | ok, let's review it | 13:59 |
| sdague | it is exposed by links [ type: bookmark ] in servers, flavors, images | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | ok, last meessage, we will cancel next week meeting | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | and seeing you guys in Austin | 13:59 |
| cdent | sdague++ on kill 300 weirdness | 13:59 |
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| alex_xu | it's time close the meeting | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | thanks all | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:59 | |
| sdague | and the real question for debate is whether all the types of linkes in links are contract | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 13:59:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-04-20-13.00.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-04-20-13.00.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-04-20-13.00.log.html | 13:59 |
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| gmann_ | Thanks all. see you in austin | 13:59 |
| sdague | see you in austin | 14:00 |
| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 14:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:00 |
| acabot | hi | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
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| acabot | meeting agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#20.2F06.2F2016 | 14:01 |
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| * alex_xu curious why no response from the rebot | 14:01 | |
| jed56 | hello | 14:01 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: what response were you missing? | 14:01 |
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| acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
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| alex_xu | edleafe: no worries, that is my network problem, huge network delay | 14:02 |
| acabot | slides for the summit have been finalized yesterday | 14:02 |
| acabot | I will share it on gdrive after our meeting | 14:02 |
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| acabot | #info agenda for Watcher meetings in Austin is available #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Watcher | 14:03 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 14:03 |
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| acabot | I hope proposed date are fine for everybody | 14:03 |
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| acabot | tuesday pm, wednesday am & thursday am | 14:04 |
| jwcroppe_ | Howdy | 14:04 |
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| edleafe | acabot: I will be in Nova sessions mostly, but will try to make any Watcher sessions I can | 14:04 |
| acabot | please let me know if you want to change the timeslots | 14:04 |
| acabot | edleafe : sure, thx ed | 14:04 |
| acabot | #info I also opened an etherpad for our discussions #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-newton-design-session | 14:05 |
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| acabot | feel free to add topics you want to discuss, I plan to complete it y EOW | 14:06 |
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| jwcroppe | acabot: great | 14:06 |
| acabot | any other announcement ? | 14:07 |
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| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 14:07 |
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| acabot | #info scoring module spec has been merged #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289880/ | 14:08 |
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| jed56 | great! | 14:08 |
| acabot | I +2/+1 as sballe_ already +2 it before moving to newton | 14:08 |
| jwcroppe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307870/ just needs workflow | 14:09 |
| acabot | #info Mitaka specs moved to implemented folder | 14:09 |
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| acabot | sballe_ could you +1 the workflow on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307870/ | 14:10 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: sorry for being late, thanks for merging! | 14:10 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : sorry for having to wait for me ;-) | 14:10 |
| tkaczynski | no worries, it did not block the implementation... | 14:11 |
| acabot | #info Provide efficacy indicators looks good, so sballe_ could you do a final review ? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ | 14:11 |
| jed56 | #action sballe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307870/ | 14:11 |
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| acabot | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ | 14:12 |
| acabot | https://review.openstack.org/301774 & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/ needs reviews from core | 14:12 |
| acabot | #action acabot sballe_ jwcroppe review asap https://review.openstack.org/301774 & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/ | 14:13 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: will do | 14:13 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ needs a status, any update on tpeoples side ? | 14:14 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: not sure what you mean by 'needs a status' ? | 14:14 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : we were waiting for tpeoples additions | 14:15 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: agreed - ok.... tpeoples ^^^ | 14:15 |
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| acabot | #action tpeoples complete https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ and retarget for Newton | 14:17 |
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| acabot | #info on Watcher there is a lot of reviews open on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++branch:master+topic:bp/get-goal-from-strategy | 14:18 |
| dtardivel | I reviewed all watcher & python-watcherlcient patchsets | 14:18 |
| acabot | thx dtardivel, we need more reviewers on this code | 14:19 |
| acabot | sballe_ any reviewer available on Intel side ? | 14:19 |
| dtardivel | It works on devstack | 14:19 |
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| jinquan | acabot i can reviews some | 14:20 |
| tkaczynski | I also did some good amount of code reviews this week | 14:20 |
| dtardivel | As discussed with vincentfrancoise, we will add some bug/wishlist later on this feature | 14:20 |
| acabot | tkaczinski : thats right :-) thx | 14:21 |
| acabot | alexchadin : is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297590/ still a WIP ? | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | acabot: i will remove WIP tag and make some little changes when spec is merged | 14:22 |
| vincentfrancoise | tkaczynski, dtardivel thanks for the reviews :) | 14:22 |
| acabot | alexchadin: ok I would like to have your spec merged before the summit | 14:22 |
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| alexchadin | Me too:) | 14:22 |
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| acabot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305596/ needs a new PS | 14:23 |
| acabot | #action jinquan add a new PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305596/ | 14:23 |
| jinquan | ok | 14:24 |
| jinquan | push tomrrow | 14:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | jinquan: I'll try and review it when you push it ;) | 14:24 |
| acabot | jinquan : ok thx | 14:24 |
| acabot | #info there are code impacts on Watcher cli & watcher dashboard from get-goal-from-strategy | 14:25 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:25 |
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| acabot | #info there are still a couple of specs that need to be re-targeted to Newton | 14:25 |
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| acabot | I have added comments on them to wake-up the commiter | 14:26 |
| acabot | but if its not done by EOW, I will do it myslef | 14:26 |
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| acabot | so please check that your current open specs are targeted to Newton, thx | 14:26 |
| jinquan | vincentfrancoise thank you for your review | 14:27 |
| tkaczynski | a friendly reminder about making design decision for the scoring module implementation - I've sent an email to the openstack-dev list :) I would really appreciate your opinion about that | 14:27 |
| sballe_ | I am back. it is bring kids to work day today at Intel and this meesed up my schedule | 14:27 |
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| acabot | sballe_ you can show them what an openstack meeting is ;-) | 14:27 |
| jed56 | acabot: lol | 14:27 |
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| sballe_ | lol | 14:27 |
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| jed56 | tkaczynski: I'm going to friendly reponse to you :) | 14:28 |
| jed56 | respond | 14:28 |
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| tkaczynski | jed56: thanks, much appreciated :) | 14:28 |
| jed56 | again sorry for the delay | 14:28 |
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| jed56 | I hope that tpeoples jwcroppe edleafe ect can also answer | 14:28 |
| tkaczynski | no need to sorry, I understand people are busy | 14:28 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092437.html | 14:29 |
| jed56 | because they very deep knowledge of openstack rules | 14:29 |
| edleafe | tkaczynski: my question from the last meeting was how often that information changes | 14:29 |
| edleafe | IOW, is it changing every minute, or once an hour, or very rarely, or ... | 14:30 |
| tkaczynski | edleafe: in my opinion not very often. basically every time somebody will register/unregister/install a scoring plugin | 14:30 |
| edleafe | tkaczynski: then it should be written to a database instead of making repeated calls over RPC for something that will rarely change | 14:31 |
| edleafe | tkaczynski: keeping the DB entry in sync is a non-issue | 14:31 |
| tkaczynski | in production I guess once setup it might work for weeks | 14:31 |
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| jwcroppe | yeah - sorry for the delayed response, also talking on a phone call now too :) | 14:32 |
| tkaczynski | edleafe: thanks for your opinion, point noted :) | 14:32 |
| acabot | #info our next milestone is Newton 1 (May 30th) #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-1 | 14:33 |
| acabot | we have 4 BPs already in review | 14:33 |
| acabot | so next week, we will have to prioritize BPs | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | I looked through https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/continuously-optimization | 14:34 |
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| acabot | so if you have any feature you would like in Watcher, please submit a BP by EOW and we will go through it next week | 14:34 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : yes, this one has been registered by sballe_ and is very important | 14:35 |
| acabot | alexchadin : we should definitely have it for Newton | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | I had a project that runs algorithms (strategies in Watcher) regulary | 14:35 |
| sballe_ | yes that is one I am very interested in | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | I may take care of it | 14:36 |
| acabot | alexchadin : are you going to Austin next week ? | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | Unfortunatly not:( | 14:36 |
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| acabot | ok I will keep on record that you may be interested to implement | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | I was so close to it, but there was непредвиденные обстоятельства | 14:37 |
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| alexchadin | I was so close to it, but there was unseen circumstances | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: that is fine. I just want to make sure we discuss the design whihc of course we will. it might be good for us to do some white boarding in Austin | 14:37 |
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| acabot | sballe_: thats what I'm planning to do on wednesday session | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | I may be in IRC or smth like this to cooperate with you | 14:38 |
| acabot | I will put it in the ertherpad | 14:38 |
| acabot | ok | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | acabot: cool! | 14:38 |
| acabot | alexchadin : do not hesitate to write things in the etherpad as well | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | acabot: sure | 14:38 |
| acabot | sballe_: is Mrittika coming to Austin ? | 14:39 |
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| acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 14:40 |
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| sballe_ | acabot: Not sure | 14:40 |
| acabot | jed56 asked for a new core on specs during my holidays | 14:40 |
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| sballe_ | Because she is not my BU I have not seen the list of attendees | 14:41 |
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| acabot | I think having 2 cores off at the same time will not happen so often | 14:41 |
| acabot | but if anyone wants to candidate as core on Watcher specs, feel free to send a mail on the ML | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | ML? | 14:42 |
| acabot | Shall we keep uuid field as part of POST method in API? | 14:42 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : sorry openstack-dev mailing list | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | thx | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | I asked question about uuid | 14:43 |
| dtardivel | Another point about Watcher Mitaka released version. I think we missed to include new version .pot file for tranlation. Do we need to push quickly a new PS ? | 14:43 |
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| alexchadin | I was pushed this commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302293/ last week | 14:44 |
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| alexchadin | After discussion with vincentfrancoise we decided to keep uuid as optional attribute | 14:45 |
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| alexchadin | But I think there is some problems with it | 14:46 |
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| jed56 | IMHO, we should remove that in that in the watcher api | 14:46 |
| alexchadin | If we provide an ability to user to set uuid field there may be some collisions | 14:47 |
| alexchadin | jed56: +1 | 14:47 |
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| jed56 | alexchadin: the collision is not a problem | 14:47 |
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| alexchadin | Should I open a new bug related to this problem? | 14:49 |
| jed56 | because we will not let the user the possibility | 14:49 |
| jed56 | to set his uuid | 14:49 |
| jed56 | ( my opinion ) | 14:50 |
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| vincentfrancoise | jed56: agreed | 14:51 |
| vincentfrancoise | So should we make a whishlist bug for it? | 14:51 |
| acabot | any action to take on this subject ? | 14:51 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: we could create a bug | 14:51 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 14:51 |
| jed56 | this is not a priority : nice to have :) | 14:52 |
| acabot | #action alexchadin submit a bug regarding UUID deletion in watcher API | 14:52 |
| alexchadin | Also I can fix it | 14:52 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: yes of course you can every bugs in watcher you wants :) | 14:53 |
| jed56 | *fix | 14:53 |
| acabot | dtardivel : regarding the pot file, I think we can still release a fix before the summit | 14:53 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: can you put a link to this meeting in the bug description then? | 14:53 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: yeap | 14:53 |
| dtardivel | jed56: only triaged ones ;) | 14:53 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: cool :) | 14:53 |
| acabot | dtardivel : so it depends if it can be done and merged before EOW | 14:53 |
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| jed56 | dtardivel: yes : -) | 14:54 |
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| acabot | #info no IRC meeting next week due to the summit | 14:57 |
| dtardivel | a new .pot file has been added in one of the bp/get-goal-from-strategy patchsets | 14:57 |
| acabot | glad to see you all next week | 14:57 |
| alexchadin | Have a nice summit! | 14:57 |
| tkaczynski | +2 :) | 14:57 |
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| jinquan1 | +1 | 14:57 |
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| acabot | bye | 14:58 |
| jinquan1 | BYE | 14:58 |
| vincentfrancoise | I'll follow you guys on the etherpad ;) | 14:58 |
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| tkaczynski | bye | 14:58 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 14:58 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| dtardivel | bye | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | bye | 14:58 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 14:58:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-04-20-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-04-20-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
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| jed56 | bye | 14:58 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 16:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 16:32:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:32 | |
| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 16:32 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:32 | |
| sdake_ | \o/ | 16:32 |
| vhosakot | \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ | 16:32 |
| akwasnie | Hi | 16:32 |
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| rhallisey | hi | 16:32 |
| jpeeler | o/ | 16:32 |
| ccesario | hi | 16:32 |
| sbezverk | o/ | 16:33 |
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| inc0 | o/ | 16:33 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:34 |
| sdake_ | nobody updated the agenda including me | 16:34 |
| sdake_ | so we will just freeflow :) | 16:34 |
| sdake_ | #topic backport progress | 16:34 |
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| sdake_ | inc0 your up ;) | 16:35 |
| inc0 | stable/liberty is not what it seems | 16:35 |
| inc0 | so right now stable/liberty is really stable/mitaka code | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | all git history kept, so it's clean | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | we have stable/liberty-early-demise branch that contains what used to be stable/liberty | 16:36 |
| sdake_ | not branch, tag | 16:36 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308390/ this is patch that makes stable/liberty deploy liberty | 16:37 |
| inc0 | for source builds | 16:37 |
| inc0 | if somebody could make patch to do centos/binary I'd be grateful | 16:37 |
| sdake_ | i'll do centos | 16:37 |
| inc0 | so please review, test and merge when ready | 16:37 |
| sdake_ | what we need is for the gat patch to merge first | 16:37 |
| sdake_ | so we can make sure the gate ikes your patch | 16:37 |
| inc0 | sure | 16:38 |
| vhosakot | inc0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308390/ should not go into master, right ? | 16:38 |
| sdake_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308341/ | 16:38 |
| inc0 | vhosakot, nope | 16:38 |
| vhosakot | inc0: cool | 16:38 |
| inc0 | it's not based on master | 16:38 |
| sbezverk | inc0 swift issue I hit before trying to deploy libtery, are they fixed now? | 16:38 |
| inc0 | sbezverk, no clue | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | if it's in stable/mitaka then yes | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | sbezverk liberty is equivalent to mitaka at this pooint | 16:39 |
| sbezverk | sdake_ inc0 got it | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | baicallly what happend is as follows | 16:39 |
| inc0 | we need this patch merged asap guys because as for now we don't deploy liberty at all | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | a tag was created at the tip of stable/liberty called liberty-early-demise | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | the liberty branch was deleted | 16:39 |
| inc0 | so it's release limbo for now | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | the librety brnach was recreated from the tip of stable/mitaka | 16:40 |
| vhosakot | inc0: so, no deploy_liberty flag and no separate build.conf for liberty.. once, your PS is merged, stable/liberty will deploy liberty.. is this right ? | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | vhosakot, exactly | 16:40 |
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| sdake_ | vhosakot except hte binary variants | 16:40 |
| inc0 | if you checkout code from review | 16:40 |
| sdake_ | which need fixing | 16:40 |
| inc0 | and just follow the normal deploy procedure | 16:40 |
| vhosakot | inc0: cool... sdake_: ah, binary bits.. ok | 16:41 |
| inc0 | that should give you liberty | 16:41 |
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| inc0 | at least on most of services | 16:41 |
| inc0 | I'll double check branches | 16:41 |
| inc0 | and versions | 16:41 |
| sdake_ | neeed someone to sort out librty binary ubuntu | 16:41 |
| vhosakot | sdake_: is centos binary good on liberty ? | 16:41 |
| sdake_ | gola for tagging this is thursday | 16:41 |
| sdake_ | if we miss that is ok | 16:41 |
| inc0 | sdake_, ubuntu binary is even a thing? | 16:42 |
| sdake_ | vhosakot no it needs work - i'll do that | 16:42 |
| sdake_ | inc0 indeed it is! | 16:42 |
| vhosakot | cool | 16:42 |
| inc0 | I must've missed it oO | 16:42 |
| inc0 | well then, ubuntu binary is another one that needs doing then | 16:42 |
| sdake_ | we can skip that for 1.1.0 | 16:42 |
| sdake_ | i think that will take awhile to sort out | 16:42 |
| inc0 | in any case, configs and bootstraps should work | 16:42 |
| inc0 | so best case scenerio is just changing repo | 16:43 |
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| sdake_ | changing repo for centos ought to do the job | 16:43 |
| sdake_ | pbourke i'll assume yu will do oracle linux binary and source? | 16:43 |
| pbourke | sdake_: sure | 16:43 |
| sdake_ | by tomorrow? | 16:43 |
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| sdake_ | i am tagging tmorrow around 1500 utc | 16:44 |
| pbourke | i'll do my best, will let you know before then if its not looking good | 16:44 |
| sdake_ | sounds good | 16:45 |
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| sdake_ | we are also tagging 2.0.0 tomorrow | 16:45 |
| sdake_ | same time same bat channel | 16:45 |
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| sdake_ | bat shit crazy taht is :) | 16:45 |
| sdake_ | any questions? | 16:46 |
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| sdake_ | #topic summit | 16:46 |
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| sdake_ | the summit schedule has been formed | 16:46 |
| vhosakot | lots of rain in Houston | 16:46 |
| sdake_ | unfortunatly several CRs cant make it | 16:47 |
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| sdake_ | not our channel is over 9000 now ;) | 16:47 |
| sdake_ | (actually over 100 people) | 16:47 |
| vhosakot | nice! | 16:47 |
| sdake_ | webinar + user survey = good mojo | 16:47 |
| sdake_ | if there rae things specifically blockingthe tagging i want ot know about them now | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | bugs/etc | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | we want peopel to have a good experience with kolla | 16:48 |
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| sdake_ | so if any functions we provide bomb out i need to knwo now | 16:49 |
| sdake_ | I know prechecks bombs | 16:49 |
| vhosakot | yes, we should be noting each operator pain pointing and come back and fix each of them | 16:49 |
| sdake_ | #topic summit elevator pitch | 16:49 |
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| rhallisey | are we writing an elevator pitch | 16:50 |
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| sdake_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-elevator-pitch | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | indeed we are | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | shouldbe fun since we are all engineers :) | 16:51 |
| inc0 | where do we publish it? | 16:51 |
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| pbourke | in elevators | 16:51 |
| vhosakot | sdake_: do we same from past elevators in Tokyo or Valcouver ? | 16:51 |
| vhosakot | sample* | 16:51 |
| rhallisey | lol.. | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | no | 16:52 |
| pbourke | whats this whole delta/alpha thing | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | add yuor name to h econtirbor list | 16:52 |
| pbourke | inside joke? :) | 16:52 |
| vhosakot | ah cool | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | that is nato speak for my last name ;) | 16:52 |
| inc0 | summit venues were just few stories high..not many people used elevators there | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | something everyone should learn ;) | 16:52 |
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| vhosakot | wont even try expanding my last name.. haha | 16:52 |
| rhallisey | ya we need also plan how we will take over each elevator | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | so elevator ptich is a convincing statement that can be made in 30 seconds or less that indicates thevalue of olla | 16:53 |
| inc0 | not sure about Austin, we might have few elevators but I'd expect escalators to be better | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | one core per elevator | 16:53 |
| inc0 | let's write an escalator pitch instead | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | inc0, what about stairs! | 16:53 |
| inc0 | a ladder pitch? | 16:53 |
| sdake_ | add your names to contributors first plz :) | 16:53 |
| vhosakot | ladder pitch lol | 16:54 |
| rhallisey | sdake_, where's our manifesto | 16:54 |
| rhallisey | I'd say that's our elevator pitch + upgrades | 16:54 |
| sdake_ | first lets putin keywords | 16:54 |
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| pbourke | rhallisey: afaik in texas walking is forbidden | 16:55 |
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| rhallisey | pbourke, do we need horses? inc0 find us horses so we can ride into town | 16:56 |
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| inc0 | my friend has a mustang | 16:57 |
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| inc0 | will that work? | 16:57 |
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| vhosakot | fast car pitch lol | 16:58 |
| rhallisey | hehe :) | 16:58 |
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| akwasnie | inc0: you also have a great new car:D | 16:59 |
| inc0 | :> | 16:59 |
| inc0 | yeah ton of fun! | 16:59 |
| akwasnie | the red one | 16:59 |
| akwasnie | :) | 16:59 |
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| sdake_ | we hae the keywords sorted out? | 17:02 |
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| sdake_ | okbrainstorming done | 17:05 |
| sdake_ | if you contirbuted soething make in 1-2 words | 17:05 |
| sdake_ | as in slim it down | 17:05 |
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| pbourke | one of your better brainstorm sessions sdake_ ;) | 17:08 |
| pbourke | gotta jet | 17:08 |
| pbourke | can someone summarise either here or on ML what needs to be done to bring the other bases up to speed for liberty | 17:08 |
| pbourke | I'll catch it in the morning | 17:08 |
| vhosakot | the elevator must be stuck to read so much text ;) | 17:08 |
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| sdake_ | ok after orange 4 5 6 7 8 etc makes their keywords 2 words or less we will begin next step | 17:09 |
| sdake_ | evreyone hep out plz | 17:09 |
| sdake_ | weneed to get these into small chunks of keywords | 17:09 |
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| inc0 | sdake_, I wanted it to be clear so everyone understands what it's about | 17:12 |
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| inc0 | 2 words won't cut it | 17:12 |
| sdake_ | 2 wordsgo in the statement | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | if people ask questions next, then we answer with the notes we add | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | notes come after we write the elevator ptich :) | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | ok we have 13 minutes left | 17:14 |
| sdake_ | lets vote on each keyword | 17:14 |
| sdake_ | +1 vote will do if you want it in the final elevator pitch | 17:14 |
| sdake_ | we need to select out atleast half these words | 17:15 |
| sdake_ | and possibly more | 17:15 |
| rhallisey | ok I'm done with mine | 17:15 |
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| inc0 | whoever gets 9.2 average wins | 17:15 |
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| sdake_ | pleae vote on the items :) | 17:19 |
| sdake_ | inc0 lol | 17:19 |
| sdake_ | when done voting, pleae ak in channel | 17:20 |
| sdake_ | sdake acks done voting | 17:20 |
| akwasnie | done | 17:20 |
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| vhosakot | done | 17:21 |
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| sdake_ | ok notice the homework | 17:24 |
| sdake_ | i'd recomend doing now if yu have time while its still fresh | 17:24 |
| sdake_ | #topic open items | 17:25 |
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| vhosakot | safe travels everyone! | 17:28 |
| inc0 | see you all in Texas | 17:28 |
| rhallisey | ya see everyone at summit | 17:28 |
| inc0 | hopefully weather will be better during summit | 17:28 |
| sdake_ | ye-haw! | 17:28 |
| inc0 | skies are clear now so it's hopeful;) | 17:28 |
| vhosakot | cloud summit must get some rain ;) | 17:29 |
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| sdake_ | dont forget the homework asignment please ;) | 17:29 |
| vhosakot | yes.. will update it sdake_ | 17:29 |
| akwasnie | see you in Austin:) | 17:30 |
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| sdake_ | thank for coming :) | 17:31 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 17:31:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-20-16.32.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-20-16.32.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-20-16.32.log.html | 17:31 |
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| rocky_g | yay! jokke_ rbradfor are we meeting today? | 19:59 |
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| jokke_ | hi | 20:06 |
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| jokke_ | I'm here | 20:06 |
| rocky_g | Hey! how is it going? | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | hanging in here | 20:06 |
| rocky_g | I'm slammed. doesn't look like we need to meet. Let's move to a private discussion? | 20:07 |
| jokke_ | sure | 20:09 |
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