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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 14:02 |
| blogan | hi | 14:03 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 14:03 |
| xiaohhui | hi | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Laptop not waking well this morning | 14:03 |
| john-davidge | o/ | 14:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 12 14:03:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks' | 14:04 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Agenda | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/routed-provider-networks-notes | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | Newton-2 is upon us. | 14:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | I suspect it will be any time now. | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | arcelona Summit talks submission deadline is tomorrow | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | Barcelona^^^^ | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Thank you, mlavalle! I had forgotten about that. | 14:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yesterday, I was able to boot a number of VMs on my routed network vagrant in various segments and talk between them all. It was pretty cool. I only had three un-merged patches cherry-picked: two for DHCP and one for Nova. | 14:07 |
| john-davidge | nice! | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | I was pretty excited so that's worth an announcement! | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyway, moving on... | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: could you share in the etherpad the way to set up those patchsets? | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Sure, I can do that. | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | Bin Yu is starting to write a scenario tempest test and we need that :-) | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Great. | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | This is looking pretty impressive: | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/-status:abandoned+topic:bp/routed-networks | 14:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | Cores, haleyb, kevinbenton, blogan: Try to keep an eye out for patches that just need one more +2. We've got a few. | 14:11 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: will do | 14:11 |
| haleyb | ack | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | Also, make sure your patches have the right topic so that they appear on this page. | 14:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic deferred IP allocation | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "deferred IP allocation (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:13 | |
| carl_baldwin | I think we've made good progress here. I see some comments from johnthetubaguy on my patch | 14:14 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299591/ | 14:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, johnthetubaguy for your continued attention to this. | 14:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | We don't have the most efficient solution yet but it was very cool to see nova VMs boot on segments and even retry to another host when the segment is out of IPs. | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think what we'll have to do is have early adopters monitor IP usage across the segments to make sure there are IPs available. | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | Correct | 14:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | Also, I need to follow up in Neutron by fleshing out the new ip_allocation extension that was merged. | 14:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will follow up on ip_allocation extension. | 14:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic DHCP | 14:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan: hi | 14:18 |
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| blogan | carl_baldwin: hi | 14:18 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: so i put up a patch to fix the create and update of dhcp port | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: I did run with your patch yesterday and it did fix some things. | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: I had to leave my review but I'll pick it up again today. | 14:18 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: i think we can fix both of these issues by making the get_network_info rpc callback method only return subnets for segment that host is mapped to, if segments exist for that network | 14:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | That is an interesting thought. | 14:20 |
| blogan | i was attempting to test it out last night, but vagrant wasn't complying so i went to bed in protest | 14:20 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: That happens | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | blogan: that is a good way to protest | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: So that would fix this too: | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340592 | 14:21 |
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| blogan | yeah, i think it would | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | Cool. That would get us in a good place. | 14:22 |
| blogan | ill be able to test it out today though and give a good answer | 14:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | You you think that should have an RPC API change? | 14:23 |
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| blogan | no, the rpc callback method would decide whether the segments are enabled and if the network has segments, then it'll filter for only those segments the host is mapped to | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: Sounds straight-forward. | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything else wrt DHCP that should be brought up? | 14:24 |
| asingh | i was working on auto scheduling for segments | 14:25 |
| asingh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333716/ | 14:25 |
| blogan | yeah i need to get that reviewed too :) | 14:25 |
| blogan | thanks for bringing that one up asingh | 14:26 |
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| asingh | thanks blogan | 14:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | asingh: I'll have a look. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Integration with Nova Scheduler | 14:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | Over the past few days I deployed the generic resource pools in my vagrant environment | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | The api is mostly working as expected | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | cool | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | I discovered a few issues that I communicated to Chris Dent, the developer | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | So I will continue helping him by testing what he pushed to Gerrit | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | I am also going to start writing today a python client for that API | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | Chris was supposed to do that, but he hasn't had the time to do it | 14:30 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I'm sure he will appreciate that very much. | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | And we need the client to write our piece in Neutron that talks to that API | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | Yes, this is agreement with him | 14:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | Sounds like great progress. | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | My goal is to write our the Neutron interaction with grp as soon as possible | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | That way we will have time to mature it | 14:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | grp = generic resource pools right? | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | Yes, sorry, I am assuming people unsderstand that | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | I will keep an eye on you nova patch for deferred ip | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | Just trying to help out the uninitiated | 14:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: This sounds like great progress. Keep pushing forward. | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | Based on how that evolves I will continue the changes I am making to allocate_for_instance | 14:33 |
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| mlavalle | Finally, I will roll out a patchset this week to show segments in ports | 14:34 |
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| * carl_baldwin wonders how many mlavalle s are out there | 14:34 | |
| mlavalle | That's it, Thanks! | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Do you need any assistance with any of these? | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | Not now, but I will yell if I do | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Please ping me any time you need reviews or anything. | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Is that it? | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | that's it. Thanks! | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Oh, you already said that. | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | thanks | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L2 Adjacency Extension | 14:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | reedip: neiljerram: hi | 14:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: I saw your comments on the patch set. | 14:36 |
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| neiljerram | carl_baldwin, hi | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Did you see my reply? | 14:36 |
| neiljerram | carl_baldwin, thanks; I saw your response too | 14:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: Calico is ML2, right? | 14:37 |
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| neiljerram | networking-calico can currently be a core plugin or an ML2 driver - but the clear steer from Neutron as a whole is for it to focus on being ML2, I believe. | 14:37 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: That might explain my confusion. I wasn't aware of the duality. | 14:38 |
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| neiljerram | (I'd like to keep networking-calico in the Neutron stadium, and I believe that being ML2 is more-or-less a requirement for that, as it encourages us all to align our implementation approaches) | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | When I made my original comments, I was thinking of it as a core plugin. I thought it could just implement the extension on its own. | 14:39 |
| neiljerram | Understood. | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm thinking we might need our implementation to call the core plugin and pass the network. Then, in ML2, the mechanism driver could answer for the particular network. Does that sound about right? | 14:40 |
| neiljerram | Well how about if the current review proceeds on the assumption that an ML2 driver cannot control l2-adjacency, and then I take on whatever work is needed so that a driver can influence that? | 14:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: That sounds fine. | 14:41 |
| neiljerram | The only think is, I'm not sure it's correct (in all scenarios) that a Network is 'owned' by one mechanism driver. | 14:41 |
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| neiljerram | Remembering rkukura's talk in Austin, I think there are scenarios where multiple ML2 drivers cooperate to do setup for a Network - e.g. at different levels. | 14:42 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: Yes, the driver "owns" the segment, right? | 14:42 |
| neiljerram | I'm not sure, I'm afraid (in general). | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | That is for Hierarchichal Port Binding | 14:43 |
| neiljerram | mlavalle, right. | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm thinking the segments service plugin could have the first chance to answer "not adjacent". Then, maybe the mechanism drivers could have a chance to answer "not adjacent" too. | 14:44 |
| neiljerram | That sounds like it could make sense. | 14:44 |
| neiljerram | If one thinks of what mechanism drivers actually do, those things would influence whether or not there was real l2 adjacency. | 14:45 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: I agree. | 14:45 |
| neiljerram | And if any of them says "not", that breaks the chain. | 14:45 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: I also think this could be done in two stages as you suggest. Let's work together to get these lined up. | 14:46 |
| neiljerram | OK, will do. I will put up a separate patch that builds on reedip's. | 14:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: I'll try to get the patch that's up in to shape for the segments service plugin piece. | 14:46 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will get l2 adjacency patch in to shape. | 14:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: Sounds like a plan. | 14:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | Let's catch anything else you've brought to discuss now. | 14:49 |
| john-davidge | I've posted an update to the first subnet service types patch this morning #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851 | 14:50 |
| john-davidge | Currently aving some trouble with DB/model sync issues that i didnt catch locally but its now in a state where unit tests are passing | 14:51 |
| john-davidge | still very much WIP but thought it was worth getting it out there | 14:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Great, I'll have a look. | 14:51 |
| haleyb | john-davidge: thanks for the update. I saw a comment about having to add to the subnet model? | 14:52 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: thanks | 14:52 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: Yes, I couldn't see a way to avoid that myself, I commented on the patch. If you or Carl have any ideas im all ears | 14:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'll have to give my half-baked idea there some more thought. | 14:54 |
| haleyb | john-davidge: ok, i'll comment in the patch | 14:54 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: haleyb: Thanks guys | 14:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | If I get a little time, I might start trying to set a router external gateway to a routed network. See what comes up. | 14:57 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Cool, would be interested to see the results | 14:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | Well, we're about out of time. Thanks for everything! | 14:58 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 12 14:58:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-07-12-14.03.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-07-12-14.03.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-07-12-14.03.log.html | 14:58 |
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| EmilienM | hello | 15:00 |
| guimaluf | \o | 15:00 |
| bklei | \o | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 12 15:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160712 | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:01 |
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| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
| degorenko | hey | 15:01 |
| guimaluf | o/ | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:01 |
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| richm | hello | 15:01 |
| aderyugin | 0/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | let's go, should be quick today | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic puppet-monasca | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory, guimaluf: go ahead | 15:02 |
| guimaluf | ok | 15:02 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | guimaluf: are you contributing to current openstack/puppet-monasca? | 15:02 |
| guimaluf | EmilienM, no | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | it would be great to talk about #topic with contributors first | 15:02 |
| guimaluf | EmilienM, but since I'm trying to install monasca and tried to use puppet-monasca, I would like do put effort on it | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: did you invite them? | 15:03 |
| bklei | i'm here | 15:03 |
| guimaluf | I brifly talked with bklei | 15:03 |
| rbak | I'm here as well | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | bklei: great, welcome here | 15:03 |
| guimaluf | he was helping me to setup monasca using puppet | 15:03 |
| bklei | gracias | 15:03 |
| guimaluf | he is* | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | ok so what's the idea? | 15:03 |
| guimaluf | I would like to improve this module | 15:03 |
| guimaluf | it's very hard to setup monasca using it | 15:04 |
| guimaluf | that's my first impression | 15:04 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | the problem with the module is that it was started by a very few people and conventions were not followed | 15:04 |
| guimaluf | so I chat with iurygregory, and since we are working in a related project regards monasca using | 15:04 |
| guimaluf | I thought, why not improve this module | 15:04 |
| guimaluf | so here I'm | 15:05 |
| guimaluf | or, here we're | 15:05 |
| bklei | that would be great guimaluf, we'd welcome the help! | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | cool, what's the plan? | 15:05 |
| guimaluf | so, where do we begin? what would be the first step? | 15:05 |
| guimaluf | exactly that I want to discuss | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | ok, let me share my feedback on this module : | 15:06 |
| bkero | o/ | 15:06 |
| iurygregory | ok | 15:06 |
| guimaluf | and I've some doubts, on how to setup external things, like storm, kafka, etc. | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | lot of code is not following our coding style | 15:06 |
| guimaluf | and how to build an module on something that is not packaged. | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | usage of templates, etc | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | I honestly don't know where to start | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | because the module is not small | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | the module has 0 functional test also | 15:07 |
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| bklei | in addition to cleanup that emileinm mentions, i think beefing up tests, and making it install the published jars (optionally) would be a good start | 15:07 |
| bklei | +1 emilienm | 15:07 |
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| guimaluf | so the first step is to fit monasca module in coding style and testing? | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | well, this "first step" will take months | 15:09 |
| bklei | that won't get you past your immediate problem, but we'd love to see that :) | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | I would like some actual collaboration between bklei and rbak in our group | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | to understand how we write Puppet OpenStack modules | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | how we make CI on it, etc | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | right now, puppet-monasca was writting on his own | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | and the technical debt to fit with other modules is now huge | 15:10 |
| bklei | roger that emilienm -- we'll do better and engage here more | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | but it's doable I guess | 15:10 |
| guimaluf | I do think so | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | I'll let you guys manage this work and ask us for feedback / reviews | 15:10 |
| bklei | biggest pain points emilienm? functional tests, more detail on 'style'? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | our coding styles gurus aka mwhahaha degorenko iberezovskiy|off iurygregory | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | bklei: we have a doc http://docs.openstack.org/developer/puppet-openstack-guide/coding-style.html | 15:12 |
| iurygregory | we have our docs docs.openstack.org/developer/puppet-openstack-guide for start ;) | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | but I have to admit this it not complete | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | is* | 15:12 |
| bklei | it's a start, that'll help guimaluf | 15:12 |
| iurygregory | it's like initial version | 15:12 |
| degorenko | in case of some doubts just add cores to review :) | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | yes | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | feel free to jump on irc or ML to ask for reviews | 15:13 |
| guimaluf | bklei, yep! would be good if we could have a working installation process, also. it's very hard to put this module to work | 15:13 |
| iurygregory | since i'll be helping guimaluf coding-style will be more easy i think | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | maybe bklei can share a manifest used to deploy monasca | 15:13 |
| guimaluf | EmilienM, he already did | 15:13 |
| iurygregory | monasca have uca and rdo packages? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:13 |
| guimaluf | iurygregory, no | 15:13 |
| bklei | rbak has done that emilienm | 15:13 |
| guimaluf | that's another concern | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | bklei: ++ | 15:13 |
| guimaluf | how to install monasca, since there is no packages? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | no upstream packaging? | 15:14 |
| iurygregory | ='( | 15:14 |
| guimaluf | EmilienM, afaik no | 15:14 |
| bklei | no debians -- only jars on tarball.openstack... | 15:14 |
| degorenko | that's big problem | 15:14 |
| degorenko | then we can't test it now with our acceptance and integration jobs | 15:14 |
| bklei | we don't use them, instead build locally | 15:14 |
| bklei | you can with the jars | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | ok | 15:15 |
| degorenko | and all jars are available via public links? | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | using t.o.o is fine I guess | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | as long as it's upstream | 15:15 |
| bklei | for example https://tarballs.openstack.org/ci/monasca-api/ | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | bklei, and about python ? o.o | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: monasca is java | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | ok out of topic now | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | anything else about puppet-monasca? | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | EmilienM, python and java implementations =) | 15:16 |
| bklei | there's python versions too -- but not a complete overlap yet. we don't use python because only influxdb is supported in the python, we use vertica | 15:16 |
| bklei | the module's functionality is a reflection of the # of consumers -- today only 1 :) | 15:16 |
| iurygregory | bklei, oh tks | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | is there anything more we need to discuss about #topic ? | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory, bklei let us know progress ! thanks for pushing on it | 15:17 |
| bklei | cool | 15:17 |
| guimaluf | thanks bklei for showing up :) | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #topic mascot/logo | 15:17 |
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| bklei | :) taking my lashes, sorry for not being here sooner | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | so Heidi from OpenStack marketing sent an email [openstack-dev] Mascot/logo for your project | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | mascot? O.o | 15:18 |
| iurygregory | cool :D | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | if you haven't read it: http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2016-07/msg00456.html | 15:18 |
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| bkero | hehe | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | I'm starting an etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-mascot-logo | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | feel free to put ideas | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | use your imagination :-) | 15:19 |
| iurygregory | nice EmilienM | 15:19 |
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| guimaluf | very nice :) | 15:19 |
| bkero | Can a little puppet of EmilienM be our mascot? :) | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | I'll send the link over the ML | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | bkero: I would love so | 15:19 |
| iurygregory | bkero, lol | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | or cats, I love cats | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | but out of context | 15:19 |
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| bkero | Then again I already have one of these: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2BPBCTCAAA93c-.jpg | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | so the idea is to submit ideas, we'll vote and then ask help to design the logo | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | OpenStack fondation can provide designer folks or we can do it ourselves | 15:20 |
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| guimaluf | bkero, LOL | 15:20 |
| mwhahaha | crazy cat lady EmilienM | 15:20 |
| iurygregory | bkero, what? O.o | 15:20 |
| guimaluf | EmilienM, I tought a specific designer would do the job | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: noooooooooo | 15:20 |
| guimaluf | the illustrator will restyle it to be consistent with the other projects | 15:20 |
| degorenko | mwhahaha, :D | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | guimaluf: ah maybe | 15:21 |
| guimaluf | the most obvious mascot is a string puppet, doesn't? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | 'then we’ll have an illustrator create the logo for you (and we also plan to print some special collateral for your team in Barcelona). " | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | so no | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | we don't have to design it | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | just submit a PoC maybe | 15:21 |
| guimaluf | yes, we don't! | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | any question? | 15:21 |
| bkero | Should we have some place to submit ideas or collaborate before Barcelona? | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | I just sent an email about the etherpad | 15:23 |
| bkero | \o/ | 15:23 |
| iurygregory | nice | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | bkero: some place? | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | bkero: etherpad is not enough? | 15:23 |
| bkero | etherpad is good | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | anything else for today? | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | ok | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | have a great week folks | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 12 15:24:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-07-12-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-07-12-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-07-12-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 15:56 |
| mugsie | o/ | 15:57 |
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| dougwig | np | 15:57 |
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| dougwig | #startmeeting kosmos | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 12 16:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kosmos)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:00 |
| dougwig | hello all, i'm hoping the new faces are back this week. | 16:00 |
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| bmidgley | hi hi | 16:01 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 16:01 |
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| dougwig | ok, so we have a design, some initial code, much to go, and most of us got sidelined. now we have some new faces. how do we attack this now? | 16:01 |
| dougwig | bmidgley: did you get a chance to post either of those docs you had mentioned last week? | 16:01 |
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| dougwig | don't all talk at once, freenode might crash. :) | 16:03 |
| mugsie | dougwig: thats a real problem these days | 16:03 |
| dougwig | so they need kosmos. | 16:04 |
| mugsie | I suppose the question is - are the newer faces OK with the current design? | 16:04 |
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| dougwig | bmidgley: ? | 16:05 |
| dougwig | or anyone else? | 16:05 |
| dougwig | or is this a bad meeting time? | 16:06 |
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| bmidgley | I am not as technical as some of the other folks I work with | 16:07 |
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| bmidgley | I think we are still examining what is in the design and looking at how we can adapt and work with you | 16:07 |
| dougwig | bmidgley: are any of them planning to attend? or is there a better time we can move this to? | 16:07 |
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| bmidgley | they are in India so it is late there, fwiw | 16:08 |
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| dougwig | ok, let's go to the ML and work out a time to have a provisional meeting, so we can all discuss . sound reasonable? | 16:08 |
| bmidgley | yes sure | 16:09 |
| bmidgley | I’ll make sure everyone is monitoring the ml | 16:09 |
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| dougwig | ok. anything useful we can discuss this morning, or shall we adjourn early and i'll send that ML post right now? | 16:09 |
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| mugsie | dougwig: adjourn? | 16:11 |
| dougwig | seconded | 16:12 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 12 16:12:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-07-12-16.00.html | 16:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-07-12-16.00.txt | 16:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-07-12-16.00.log.html | 16:12 |
| dougwig | ML post sent. | 16:12 |
| dougwig | thanks | 16:12 |
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| gibi_ | #startmeeting nova notification | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 12 17:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:00 |
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| gibi_ | o/ | 17:00 |
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| macsz | Hello | 17:01 |
| rlrossit_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| gibi_ | macsz: hi! | 17:01 |
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| gibi_ | rlrossit_: lunchtime again? :) | 17:01 |
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| pumaranikar | hello | 17:02 |
| rlrossit_ | yeah, but I'm at home today, so no idea why that decided to cut out | 17:02 |
| rlrossit_ | just wonderful internet here in the US | 17:02 |
| gibi_ | :) | 17:02 |
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| gibi_ | let's get started\ | 17:02 |
| gibi_ | #topic outstanding reviews | 17:02 |
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| gibi_ | so, things I know about | 17:03 |
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| gibi_ | transformation patches that has +2 before the deadline got ffe | 17:03 |
| gibi_ | everythin is merged except | 17:03 |
| gibi_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331972/ | 17:03 |
| gibi_ | Transform instance.restore notifications | 17:03 |
| gibi_ | I had to press rebase on it again | 17:04 |
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| gibi_ | I will push it through today / tomorrow | 17:04 |
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| gibi_ | I think everybody did very good job with the transformation | 17:04 |
| gibi_ | all the still open once needs to be resurrected on Ocata base | 17:05 |
| gibi_ | s/once/ones/ | 17:05 |
| syjulian | What should be done to the ones with -2? | 17:05 |
| gibi_ | syjulian: those needs to wait until Ocata | 17:05 |
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| rlrossit_ | those are just procedural -2's, not "this is a very bad thing" -2 | 17:06 |
| gibi_ | as soon as master is open to Ocata you need a rebase and you have to ask the core to remove -2 | 17:06 |
| macsz | Can we create bp for ocata now? | 17:06 |
| macsz | Or do we have to wait | 17:06 |
| rlrossit_ | I think you can open a bp whenever you want, though approval will probably wait until Ocata | 17:06 |
| gibi_ | rlrossit_: +! | 17:06 |
| gibi_ | rlrossit_: +1 | 17:06 |
| rlrossit_ | like, no one will look at it until then | 17:06 |
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| gibi_ | we have some follow up patches | 17:07 |
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| gibi_ | rlrossit_ refactors the enum values | 17:08 |
| gibi_ | syjulian fixes some security issues | 17:08 |
| * rlrossit_ forgot he had that patch open | 17:08 | |
| gibi_ | I had not time to start one until now, but will try harder | 17:08 |
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| gibi_ | the basic patches of the json schema generation is merged in ovo | 17:10 |
| gibi_ | I think the next step there is to add schemam to the complex fields like ObjectField ListOf...Field | 17:10 |
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| gibi_ | we need them as they are used in the payload classes | 17:10 |
| gibi_ | syjulian: are you planning to continue on this track? | 17:11 |
| syjulian | Yes | 17:11 |
| gibi_ | syjulian: great, thanks | 17:11 |
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| syjulian | I also saw a follow up on the nova side | 17:11 |
| gibi_ | syjulian: which one? | 17:12 |
| syjulian | "after the json schema patch is merged in ovo and a new ovo lib version is released we can add a tool to nova generate the json schemas for the versioned notifications" | 17:12 |
| syjulian | this was on the wiki | 17:12 |
| gibi_ | syjulian: yeah, that is basically depends on the complex fields I mentione above | 17:12 |
| syjulian | ah ok | 17:13 |
| gibi_ | these was the patches I'm aware of | 17:13 |
| rlrossit_ | though that tool won't get in until O | 17:14 |
| rlrossit_ | (but you can still work on it now) | 17:14 |
| gibi_ | rlrossit_: true, will state that on the wiki | 17:15 |
| gibi_ | anything else that is open and needs discussion? | 17:16 |
| syjulian | can i get clarification on one of the follow up items? | 17:17 |
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| syjulian | this one "refactor the sample test to avoid booting a new instance for every sample test." | 17:17 |
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| gibi_ | syjulian: sure. there was a suggestion in one of the merged review that now every sample action test boots up a new instance, execute the action, assert the notificatin | 17:18 |
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| gibi_ | and this many instance boot might take time | 17:18 |
| gibi_ | I haven't timed the test yet to see how much time we are talking about | 17:18 |
| gibi_ | if it is significant then we can rearrange the tests to reuse a singel instance | 17:19 |
| gibi_ | we have ~40 instance actions all together | 17:20 |
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| gibi_ | so if the boot an instance boot is under a sec in the test then it only adds a minute to the whole suite, I guess if it adds more than a minute that is a problem | 17:21 |
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| syjulian | oh ok. so the first thing is to find out the time increase | 17:22 |
| gibi_ | yes, that is the first step | 17:22 |
| gibi_ | anything else? | 17:24 |
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| gibi_ | OK then | 17:25 |
| gibi_ | #topic open discussion | 17:25 |
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| gibi_ | I have one question. | 17:26 |
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| gibi_ | Do you want to decrease the frequency of the meeting to biweekly as it was during Mitaka? | 17:26 |
| rlrossit_ | +1 | 17:26 |
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| syjulian | i'm good with that | 17:27 |
| gibi_ | OK, then lets, decrease it | 17:28 |
| gibi_ | #action: gibi to change the meeting to biweekly | 17:28 |
| gibi_ | anything else to discuss? | 17:29 |
| gibi_ | OK, let's close it | 17:31 |
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| gibi_ | thanks for showing up. I will send a mail to the ML with the new meeting schedule | 17:31 |
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| gibi_ | \o | 17:31 |
| rlrossit_ | \o | 17:31 |
| gibi_ | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 12 17:32:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-07-12-17.00.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-07-12-17.00.txt | 17:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-07-12-17.00.log.html | 17:32 |
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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 12 17:59:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 18:00 |
| markus_z | hello folks, anyone here? | 18:00 |
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| markus_z | OK, let's wait for a minute | 18:00 |
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| auggy | o/ | 18:01 |
| aihuaedwardli | Hello | 18:01 |
| markus_z | #topic info-round | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | cool, let's start | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | #info 642 overall open bug reports | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | #info 42 untriaged bug reports | 18:02 |
| markus_z | #info 1 critical (for aarch64/s390x): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1598370 | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1598370 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Got AttributeError when launching instance in Aarch64" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Zhao (kevin-zhao) | 18:02 |
| markus_z | #info 188 bug reports expired: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/098792.html | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | ^ no one complained to me yet *woho* | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | #topic bug skimming | 18:03 |
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| markus_z | #help need volunteer for next week: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 18:03 |
| aihuaedwardli | hello, I am new to here. | 18:03 |
| mriedem | if https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1598370 is just for a single virt driver, it's not critical | 18:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1598370 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Got AttributeError when launching instance in Aarch64" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Zhao (kevin-zhao) | 18:03 |
| mriedem | we don't do critical bugs for optional configurations | 18:03 |
| markus_z | aihuaedwardli hi | 18:03 |
| markus_z | mriedem: OK, I wasn't sure, I'll reduce the importance | 18:04 |
| aihuaedwardli | Hi, don't want to interrupt, but I would like to review a bug that I filed. | 18:04 |
| mriedem | just did | 18:04 |
| markus_z | ah, you're faster | 18:04 |
| aihuaedwardli | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597596 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597596 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "network not always cleaned up when spawning VMs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Aihua Edward Li (aihuaedwardli) | 18:04 |
| markus_z | aihuaedwardli: at the end is an open round, just a few minutes | 18:04 |
| auggy | fyi next week is the midcycle, so we could probably set aside a skimming-a-thon | 18:04 |
| auggy | set aside time for a... is what i meant to say :) | 18:04 |
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| markus_z | right, midcycle. Not sure if they find time during the midcycle, but I can ask for that on the ML | 18:05 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z ask on ML if the midcycle can skim bug reports | 18:05 |
| * auggy keeps double checking her calendar cuz omg it's already here!! | 18:06 | |
| mriedem | honestly i think we're going to be full | 18:06 |
| markus_z | yeah, guess so, but asking doesn't hurt | 18:06 |
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| auggy | if there are any new contributors that show up and are looking for things to do, i can take some time to walk them through it if it makes sense | 18:06 |
| markus_z | yes, sounds great | 18:07 |
| auggy | during the Mitaka midcycle, the last day was pretty unstructured | 18:07 |
| auggy | mostly people pairing up to work on specific things and such, if that happens this time and there are new folks looking lost, i'm happy to jump in and get them started on skimming | 18:07 |
| markus_z | I can start my day a little later next week in case there are questions | 18:07 |
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| markus_z | s/day/days | 18:07 |
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| markus_z | moving on | 18:08 |
| markus_z | #last weeks action items | 18:08 |
| markus_z | #topic last weeks action items | 18:08 |
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| markus_z | #info review pipeline: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099096.html | 18:09 |
| markus_z | ^ comments and critics welcome | 18:09 |
| auggy | i responded just before the meeting | 18:09 |
| auggy | thanks for taking the time to address this issue and think about solutions! | 18:09 |
| markus_z | Ah, I haven't read it yet, I'll respond after the meeting | 18:10 |
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| markus_z | I didn't had the chance to go over the stale reports, I'm going to spend tomorrows morning on that. | 18:10 |
| auggy | np, basically i just asked if it made sense to tag in Launchpad instead of Gerrit since the bugs should be linked | 18:10 |
| mriedem | i was about to reply to the thread, but then didn't | 18:10 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z check stale bug reports | 18:10 |
| pumaranikar | auggy, let me know if you find anything to work on for new contributors | 18:10 |
| mriedem | i think i prefer #2 over #3 | 18:10 |
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| mriedem | we have dashboards for bugs, | 18:11 |
| mriedem | we could work starred changes into that | 18:11 |
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| markus_z | yes. My concern was the "single-point-of-failure" | 18:12 |
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| markus_z | 2) would also allow more control. But we can discuss this on the ML | 18:13 |
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| auggy | we could have a few people that could have starred items be included for redundancy | 18:13 |
| markus_z | yep, makes sense | 18:14 |
| mriedem | yeah i'd say more than one person | 18:14 |
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| auggy | we can keep that list on the nova subteams etherpad maybe, under the bugs subteam | 18:14 |
| auggy | the list of people who have stars in the filter i mean | 18:15 |
| mriedem | i do sometimes star stuff to come back to it, but not a bug fix | 18:15 |
| mriedem | so if i had star power that could mess things up | 18:15 |
| mriedem | unless we filter out changes without Closes-Bug in the commit message | 18:15 |
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| auggy | i'm guessing it would filter on starred by x and has closes-bug or some such | 18:15 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:16 |
| markus_z | agreed ^ | 18:16 |
| auggy | with both conditions necessary | 18:16 |
| auggy | lol star power | 18:16 |
| mriedem | yes, | 18:16 |
| mriedem | in other words | 18:16 |
| mriedem | temporary invincibility against turtles and mushrooms | 18:16 |
| auggy | she-ra! | 18:16 |
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| markus_z | did she used stars? I have to watch the old cartoons again | 18:17 |
| markus_z | s/used/use | 18:17 |
| auggy | she just had all the power | 18:17 |
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| markus_z | hm, I google that at home, the internet is a weird place | 18:18 |
| markus_z | #topic open round | 18:18 |
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| auggy | maybe sailor moon would be a more appropriate metaphor ;) | 18:19 |
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| markus_z | aihuaedwardli: your turn | 18:19 |
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| markus_z | aihuaedwardli: Seems like you have a patch up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335788/ | 18:21 |
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| aihuaedwardli | hi, this is the bug | 18:21 |
| aihuaedwardli | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597596 | 18:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597596 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "network not always cleaned up when spawning VMs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Aihua Edward Li (aihuaedwardli) | 18:21 |
| markus_z | It has already some attention from reviewers | 18:22 |
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| markus_z | It takes a little patience in Nova to get fixes merged | 18:22 |
| aihuaedwardli | This bug is happening in our production environment. I have put a patch, but would like to see how to make it go forward. | 18:22 |
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| mriedem | aihuaedwardli: well first comment is all bug fixes require tests | 18:24 |
| markus_z | Unfortunately the review backlog is quite huge and most people are still reviewing the functional changes | 18:24 |
| mriedem | my earlier comments are really i'm not sure this is the right way to fix this, but i don't have great suggestions either | 18:24 |
| mriedem | i've got to run to another meeting | 18:25 |
| markus_z | ok | 18:25 |
| aihuaedwardli | I run unit test locally with no errors. | 18:25 |
| markus_z | aihuaedwardli: yes, we need additional unit tests which check the code paths you changed | 18:26 |
| auggy | aihuaedwardli: is there a test path in the unit and functional test coverage for the additional code path you added? | 18:26 |
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| auggy | so if "self.network_api.cleanup_instance_network_on_host" doesn't return, do you have a test that covers the case where that doesn't return and then runs your additional logic instead? | 18:27 |
| aihuaedwardli | I simulated this in my environment and verified the change locally | 18:27 |
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| auggy | aihuaedwardli: test coverage is not guaranteed. it is possible your code path is never getting executed in our tests. | 18:28 |
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| aihuaedwardli | you mean to add a unit test for the new path? | 18:28 |
| markus_z | yes | 18:28 |
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| aihuaedwardli | o.k. let me work on that. | 18:28 |
| auggy | if there is no test case where the "self.network_api.cleanup_instance_network_on_host" fails to return, then your code will never be executed in our tests | 18:29 |
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| markus_z | aihuaedwardli: I haven't looked at it in detail, but I guess you will find more info on how to do it here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d498645806cc203e5471b08f833c3cc0566eeeb3/nova/tests/unit/network/test_api.py#L528-L528 | 18:30 |
| markus_z | At least in that module | 18:30 |
| aihuaedwardli | o.k. thanks | 18:31 |
| markus_z | Anything else from anyone? | 18:31 |
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| markus_z | OK, closing in 3... | 18:32 |
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| auggy | nope, thanks markus_z ! | 18:33 |
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| markus_z | Thanks for your time! Next meeting coming Tuesday: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam#Next_meeting_dates | 18:33 |
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| markus_z | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
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| siva_krish | thanks markus_z | 18:33 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 12 18:33:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-07-12-17.59.html | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-07-12-17.59.txt | 18:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-07-12-17.59.log.html | 18:33 |
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