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acabot#startmeeting watcher09:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 09:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'09:00
acabothello guys09:00
alexchadinhi09:00
jinquanhi09:00
vincentfrancoiseo/09:00
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acabotagenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#08.2F17.2F201609:01
acabot#topic Announcements09:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)"09:01
acabot#info alexchadin is now core on Watcher09:01
acabotcongrats !09:01
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alexchadinwow09:01
alexchadinthanks!09:01
jinquanalexchadin: congrats!!!09:02
acabotyou should have a +/- 2 option in gerrit ;-)09:02
dtardivelhi09:02
alexchadinthank you, guys!09:02
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: welcome to the club :D09:03
acabot#info please vote for promoting hvprash as core on watcher-specs09:03
acabot#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101750.html09:03
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: no one speak about club :D09:03
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: rule 109:03
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: hahahaha09:03
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acabot#info we now have 5 core contributors for Watcher jed56, dtardivel, vincentfrancoise, alexchadin & gzhai09:04
acabotany other announcement ?09:04
jed56alexchadin: :)09:04
acabot#rtopic Review Action Items09:05
acabot#topic Review Action Items09:05
*** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)"09:05
acabotWatcher specs09:05
acabotGraph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center needs a new PS and final reviews09:05
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/09:05
acabot#action acabot send an email to greg to get an update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/09:06
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acabotUpdate define-the-audit-scope spec needs reviews from core09:06
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339456/09:06
acabot#action sballe jwcroppe acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339456/09:06
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acabotAdded spec for automatic triggering audit needs a new PS09:07
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/09:07
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acabotdiga told me that he will update the spec today09:08
acabot#action diga__ add a new PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/09:08
acabotLimit concurrent actions invoked by Watcher needs reviews09:08
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:08
hanrong+109:08
acabotanyone wants to review it ?09:08
acabot#action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:09
gzhai-mobli09:09
acabot#action gzhai-mobl review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:09
acabotthx09:09
acabotMove Mitaka specs to Newton cycle & Add ocata folders and template for specs need +209:09
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353454/09:09
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353320/09:10
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acabot#action sballe jwcroppe +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353454/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353320/09:10
acabotWatcher09:10
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acabotAdd Scoring Module implementation needs more reviews09:10
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/09:11
acabotwho wants to review it ?09:11
hanrong+109:11
acabot#action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/09:11
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vincentfrancoiseI will too09:11
acabot#action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351577/09:11
acabotAdded Monasca Helper has to be merged09:11
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/09:11
acabotbecause we need it for benchmarks in september09:12
dtardivelacabot: I will review it09:12
acabot#action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/09:12
acabotanyone else wants to review ? gzhai-mobl ?09:12
gzhai-moblgave comments09:12
alexchadinI'll take a look09:12
acabotok thx09:13
acabot#action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/09:13
acabotAdded strategy ID + Action Plan syncing needs reviews09:13
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325213/09:13
jinquani will review this one09:13
dtardivelacabot: I will review it too09:13
acabot#action jinquan dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325213/09:14
acabotthx09:14
acabot#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion09:14
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acabot#info current milestone is n-3 due August 29th09:14
acabot#link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-309:14
acabotI would suggest to freeze the code on Friday 26th09:15
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acabotin 10 days09:15
acabotalexchadin : are you confident to deliver the audit scope by Friday 26th ?09:16
jed56+109:16
alexchadinI'll try to do it09:16
alexchadinIt depends on spec review09:16
acabotI think we can merge the spec today if I got feedback from jwcroppe09:17
acabotdid you already start implementing ?09:18
alexchadinA little bit09:18
acabotok lets keep it on n-3 then09:18
alexchadincool!09:19
acabotgzhai-mobl : what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/statemachine-transition-permission ?09:19
gzhai-moblnot yet09:19
acabotgzhai-mobl : did you start working on a spec ?09:19
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gzhai-moblsorry, have some other task09:19
gzhai-moblnot yet09:20
acabotok09:20
gzhai-moblwill start this week09:20
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acabot#info I suggest to move all unimplemented BP to Ocata to keep our next Newton milestones empty and focus on bug fixes09:20
vincentfrancoise+109:20
acabotis that ok for you guys ?09:20
dtardivel+109:21
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acabotas we will have 17 BPs implemented in the Newton cycle, we need more tests before releasing the Newton version09:21
vincentfrancoisewe are closing in to our first big tent release so IMHO we should make things right :)09:21
acabot+109:21
alexchadin+209:21
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jinquan+109:22
acabotgzhai-mobl : is that OK for you ? just keep the scalability tests and bug fixes in september ?09:22
alexchadinmany of our open bugs have long store09:22
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gzhai-moblok09:22
alexchadinstory*09:22
acabot#action acabot move Automatic triggering Action Plans & Use a state machine to model Watcher objects lifecycle BPs to Ocata09:23
alexchadindon't we need to review them?09:23
acabotsure we can09:23
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acabotthere are 5 bugs open09:23
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alexchadinI see 10 bugs09:24
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alexchadin3 of them are in wishlist/undecided09:24
acabotalexchadin : right I was on the newton-3 panel09:24
acabot#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher09:24
acabotjinquan : are you working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1599879 ?09:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599879 in watcher "we should return FAILED status when we create an audit with unspecified parameters" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Jinquan Ni (ni-jinquan)09:25
jinquanyes, will done09:25
jinquanthis week09:25
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dtardivelacabot: Fix on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1600707 has been merged. We need to update its status09:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1600707 in watcher "use parameters to set the threshold for strategies of Airflow,workload and outlet temerature" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to junjie.huang (junjie-huang)09:27
acabot:-) done09:28
acabotsometimes gerrit trigger doesnt work...09:28
vincentfrancoiseBTW, the same kind of bug should be filed for the other strategies09:28
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acabotalexchadin : any bug you want to discuss in particular ?09:29
alexchadinacabot: I wouldn't for now09:29
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: +109:29
acabot#action acabot do a bit of clean-up in bugs list !09:30
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acabotresize-overload-instance needs a new description and specs09:30
acabot#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/resize-overload-instance09:30
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acabotjinquan : you probably had questions about it09:31
jinquanacabot:yes i just discuss with vicent09:31
jinquanvincent09:31
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jinquanby the way , i should put the spec into newton folders or ocata folders(not merged)?09:32
acabotjinquan : ok the main idea from the mid-cycle was that the description is unclear09:32
acabotput the spec in ocata09:32
acabotnow every new spec must be in Ocata (I will try to have the folders merged today)09:33
jinquanwhen the folder will merged?09:33
jinquanacabot: ok get it!09:33
vincentfrancoiseFYI, I just created https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/161402109:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614021 in watcher "Remove hardcoded strategy attributes and promote them strategy parameters" [Medium,New]09:33
acabot#action jinquan write a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/resize-overload-instance09:33
acabotthx vincentfrancoise09:34
acabot#topic Open discussions09:34
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acabot#info email sent to Monasca PTL to get a status on Ceilosca code09:35
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: I will ask my colleagues, maybe some of them will take this bug09:35
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: that would be great!09:35
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acabotI 've got a first answer saying that HPE team working on Ceilosca has already fix some bugs and performance isssues and they plan to push them upstream09:36
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acabothe will come back to me next week with a timeframe09:36
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acabotregarding scalability tests09:37
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acabotdtardivel is working on scripts for gzhai-mobl09:37
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gzhai-moblok09:37
acabotgzhai-mobl : can we package PKB in a docker container ?09:38
gzhai-moblpkb?09:38
acabotperfkit benchamrker09:38
acabotto run scenarios09:38
gzhai-moblnot sure09:38
acabotthe tool will run on top of openstack and call Nova API09:39
acabotwould you prefer a VM ?09:39
gzhai-moblcontainer seems better09:39
gzhai-moblbut, big difference?09:40
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acabotit will be lighter but you need to have a docker engine deployed somewhere09:40
dtardivelgzhai-mobl: OK, could you check this point from your side quickly please. I will push a container image today on our public repository.09:40
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gzhai-mobldtardivel: decision?09:41
gzhai-moblvm or container?09:41
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dtardivelgzhai-mobl: yes please :)09:42
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acabot#action gzhai-mobl check that we can use a docker container to run PKB on intel infrastructure09:42
gzhai-mobleither is ok. i prefer vm as i didn't use container before09:42
gzhai-moblok. i'll check09:43
acabotthx09:43
acabotany other open discussion to open ?09:43
dtardivelgzhai-mobl: I will provide a README doc to explain how to use Docker and PKB. I will be simple09:43
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gzhai-mobldtardivel: thanks09:44
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acabotok so thank you guys09:45
acabothave a good day09:45
dtardivelbye09:45
gzhai-moblbye09:45
acabotbye09:46
acabot#endmeeting09:46
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 13:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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cdento/13:00
alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
edleafe\o13:01
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alex_xuI start the meeting in a wrong channel again...13:01
sdagueo/13:01
alex_xuok, let us start the meeting13:01
alex_xu#topic API Priorities13:02
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jicheno/13:02
alex_xusdague: what about the client for deprecation api?13:02
sdaguewe've landed the 2 patches needed to talk to glance / neutron directly for name -> id lookup13:03
alex_xusdague: cool, the situation is really complex than what I thought...13:04
sdaguewhich is the prereq for not going to the network API13:04
sdagueyes13:04
sdaguethe name -> id lookup was something we forgot was done at the CLI layer13:04
sdaguebut, on the upside, that all seems to work13:04
alex_xucool13:04
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sdaguethe client patch that adds the nova network downgrade is posted, and I think close13:05
alex_xuwhat means downgrade?13:05
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sdagueif nova-net, all network calls are automatically made a 2.3513:06
alex_xusdague: ah, got it13:06
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alex_xusdague: is that all about cli for deprecated api?13:07
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sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/347514/ - is the patch in question13:08
sdagueI guess it's still failing jenkins13:08
sdaguealex_xu: no, I think that's it13:08
alex_xusdague: there probably needs some patch for image and baremetal etc13:08
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sdagueno, for those we just fail13:09
sdaguethe point is that if you have a nova-network cloud, just failing network calls isn't an option13:09
alex_xusdague: yes, just fail13:09
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alex_xusdague: the fail just make it return 404, or add decorator to limit the cli supported version?13:10
alex_xuactually I mean the second one13:10
sdagueno, the idea is the client will just fail13:10
sdaguethe 404 will pop back13:11
sdaguethese have been deprecated for a while13:11
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alex_xusdague: whether 404 confuse for user, this may not the fault of user, it is the fault for server side13:12
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sdaguealex_xu: it might, but we've had deprecation here for a long time13:14
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alex_xusdague: ok, so what about volume/fping, we say deprecate them before13:15
alex_xus/we say/we didn't say/13:15
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sdagueI thought volume was basically already deleted13:16
alex_xuok13:16
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sdagueI think this is the path we have. Client goes to freeze within 2 weeks13:16
sdagueif there are bugs we can fix them later as bug fixes13:16
cdentpeople can always choose to use an older version13:16
cdent(of the code, not microversion)13:17
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cdentwe cater too much on this front13:17
alex_xucdent: ok13:18
alex_xugood point also13:18
alex_xusdague: ok, just follow that plan13:18
edleafecdent: +113:18
alex_xuso let's move on?13:19
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* cdent nods13:20
alex_xufor user_id based enforcement, we just left few patches13:20
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/user_id_based_policy_enforcement13:20
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alex_xusdague johnthetubaguy: have we said we will remove existed user_id support, and that not in the list?13:20
alex_xui remember we said leave it alone13:21
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alex_xumriedem: welcome13:22
alex_xumriedem: do you remember whether we said we will remove existed user_id support, and those check are not in the list?13:22
sdagueright, I think this is a little bit of a grey space.13:23
sdaguebecause we didn't know all of those when we did the spec13:23
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sdagueso, I'll be honest, the thing I'd really like to see (in an ideal world) is a patch that warns if there is a user_id based polity for a policy point that doesn't support it13:23
sdagueso people that don't get the message via release notes would get it in their logs13:24
alex_xusdague: yea, that sounds nice for people13:25
sdaguealex_xu: we'd need someone to do it though13:25
alex_xunote, we already merge one patch for remove user_id support...13:25
sdagueI suspect I'm pinned down on the client stuff this week, and next week is openstack east + ops summit, so I'll be out of a normal dev flow13:26
alex_xusdague: yes, I will take care those user_id based enforcment patches, gmann is not available in next one week or two.13:26
sdaguemriedem: opinions on the remove of existing user_id rules ?13:26
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mriedemi haven't followed that series at all13:26
sdaguemriedem: so, the question is13:26
mriedemi thought the list of things from the spec was not meant to be comprehensive13:26
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mriedembut was signed off by ops13:26
sdaguewe had a spec that said "we'll make these support this"13:27
sdaguethen there was interpretation about "what about the places we already were doing this not in that list"13:27
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alex_xusdague: we are lucky that patch merged failed13:27
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354662/13:27
sdagueI'm fine not landing the removes13:27
mriedemso server start13:27
mriedemso the spec had a subset of destructive actions on a server13:28
mriedemturns out there are already some places we allow this for other non-destructive actions, like starting a server13:28
sdagueright13:28
mriedemso jim bob can start joe bob's server and now joe bob is getting billed13:28
mriedem(maybe)13:28
sdaguejoe bob isn't getting billed13:28
sdaguebecause usage is collected at a project level13:28
mriedemand the question is, do we remove or just warn?13:28
sdaguethe use case is catch all, don't care about utilization / quota for individuals13:29
mriedemat this point in the cycle i'd rather just leave the functionality that's in place there13:29
mriedemif we want to warn, whatever13:29
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sdaguemriedem: right, so I agree probably don't rush this one13:29
sdaguemriedem: to be clear, my warn concern is not for these actions13:29
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sdagueit's for policy points where they specify user_id, but we don't ever evaluate user_id13:30
mriedemok13:30
mriedemthat makes sense13:30
mriedem+1 for that then yeah13:30
sdaguealex_xu: ok, so I think we don't do the removes13:30
mriedem"you're doing something that isn't checked"13:30
alex_xusdague: yea, cool13:30
sdagueI -2ed the bottom patch13:30
mriedemhaving a false sense of policy enforncement13:30
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sdaguemriedem: right13:30
sdaguealex_xu: do you want to figure out if there is any reasonable way to do this warning before release?13:31
sdaguetheir may not be with the infrastructure we have13:31
alex_xusdague: yes, will do that13:31
sdaguebut it would be good to investigate13:31
sdaguealex_xu: great, thank you13:31
alex_xu#action alex_xu go to figure out if there is any reasonable way to do this warning before release13:32
alex_xusdague: np13:32
alex_xuso we can move on?13:32
sdagueyes13:32
alex_xupolicy check cmd13:32
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322944/13:32
alex_xuI found it doesn't works for admin user13:32
alex_xudo to we won't validate with keystone, then we don't know the role of user13:33
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alex_xus/do to/due to/13:33
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alex_xumaybe two options: 1, validate with keystone, 2, user specific the role by cmd args13:34
sdaguealex_xu: well, we were sure it wouldn't be perfect13:34
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sdaguehonestly, I think I'd rather get this patch merged, and warn if you specify admin that this isn't accurate13:34
sdaguethen figure out an admin path13:34
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sdagueinstead of not land anything13:34
alex_xusdague: actually it doesn't work for any role13:35
sdagueoh....13:35
alex_xuhow about this: nova-policy policy checks --user-id "..uuid.." --porject-id "..uuid.." --role "admin" "xyz"...13:36
alex_xueverything input by user13:36
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sdaguealex_xu: that seems reasonable starting point13:37
sdagueI haven't seen claudio around in a bit, is anyone able to respin that13:37
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alex_xui'm ok with that13:37
sdagueok, we still need someone to own this, otherwise it is unlikely to land13:39
alex_xuyea, I will own this13:39
sdaguealex_xu: thank you13:40
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alex_xu#action alex_xu help on the respin the policy check cmd patches13:40
alex_xusdague: np13:40
alex_xuI think that is all we have before release?13:40
alex_xuok, i think that is all13:42
alex_xu#topic open13:42
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alex_xuanyone want to bring up something?13:42
alex_xucdent: sdague what is plan for placement API? merge them all, or just try our best?13:43
sdaguewas was the last microversion we were going to land, after get me a network?13:43
alex_xusdague: ah, i forget that one13:43
edleafesdague: 2.3813:43
cdentalex_xu: the goal is to at least get inventories written13:43
edleafesdague: working on pushing that now13:43
sdagueedleafe: ok13:43
sdaguecdent: what is the patch where that happens?13:43
cdentbut most of the rest of the code is close, just waiting on some stuff to merge to make real progress13:43
sdagueso we can keep an eye on getting up to that point13:44
cdentsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329152/13:44
alex_xuedleafe: do you have link?13:44
alex_xucdent: cool13:44
cdentthat was in the stack you've already reviewed, but we've started to unstack so as to enable some parallelism13:44
cdentbut given the delay in the gate, the rebases are on hold13:44
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edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315964/13:44
edleafealex_xu: ^^13:44
alex_xuedleafe: thanks13:44
cdentsdague: that patch probably has the same issues with empty response bodies as the resource provider urls one13:45
cdentrelated to the placement api I wanted to point at this https://gist.github.com/cdent/de50cb05a7ab8219cd4f5b4ab3c181dd13:45
cdentthat's a POC of microversion decorators in the placement api, based off the nova code, but modified for the differences13:46
sdagueok, keeping in them in a stack actually makes it a little easier to know when we hit the finish line13:46
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cdentit's incomplete, and there is no where to put it yet (as there are no versions) but I wanted to make sure people are aware that it is being thought about13:46
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cdentsdague: yeah, that's what I think, but I keep getting "why is this based on X" comments13:46
sdaguecdent: hmm, ok, maybe we should just educate folks on that13:47
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alex_xucdent: cool for decorator13:47
cdentsdague: they are from people who I'm pretty sure already know that (jay, dan, etc)13:47
sdaguesigh, ok13:47
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cdentI think they (understandbly) are tying to optimize for merging, not waiting13:48
cdentin any case, once the three currently merging are in, it will be a lot easier to make sense of13:48
sdagueok, from my math this is only 4 patches outstanding right?13:48
cdentsdague: I need to review the actual goals more closely but I think there are several "we'd really like to get this too" but I'm not sure how those relate to the decisions made at mid-cycle and elsewhere13:49
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cdentI admit that it is hard for me to understand some of the constraints13:50
cdentso I just keep moving as much forward as I cn13:50
cdentcan13:50
sdagueok, lets take this back over to nova channel13:50
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sdagueso we can get everyone on the same page13:50
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alex_xuok, so anything more? or we probably need to close the meeting13:51
sdagueyeh, probably close the meeting13:51
* cdent nods13:51
alex_xucool, 9 mins left, we have short meeting this week. :)13:51
sdagueI am unlikely to be here next week, because of OpenStack East13:51
mriedemi'm on vacation next week too13:51
mriedemcranking on the novaclient changes today13:51
alex_xuwoo, catch all the question this week.13:51
alex_xuok, thanks all!13:52
alex_xu#endmeeting13:52
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zaneb#startmeeting heat15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 15:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zaneb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'15:00
zanebjust like riding a bike15:00
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zaneb#topic roll call15:00
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ramishrahi15:00
jasondo/15:00
spzala:) o/15:00
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yohoffman\o15:01
syjuliano/15:01
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duvarenkovhi15:01
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shizhihuihi, I am new15:01
zanebshizhihui: welcome!15:02
zanebok, good turnout15:02
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shizhihuizaneb ,thank you15:02
zaneb#topic Adding items to agenda15:02
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zaneb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-08-17_1500_UTC.2915:02
zanebanybody got anything else?15:03
zanebI'll take y'all's silence as a 'no'15:04
zaneb#topic bp for cinder quota as heat resource15:04
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zanebsyjulian: is this you?15:04
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zaneb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355627/15:04
syjulianyes15:04
zanebsyjulian: then you have the floor :)15:04
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syjulianso we basically want to be able to manage cinder quotas as a heat resource15:07
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zanebI scanned the bp and I'm mentally filing this under 'weird things that admins want to do (for some reason) with Heat, of which we already support a bunch'15:07
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zanebI'm not inclined to draw the line here, so I think this is fine15:07
zaneb*provided* that it is limited to admin-only so regular users won't see it15:07
ramishrayeah, we have quite a few admin only resources, one more to the list:)15:07
yohoffmanYes, this would be strictly admin-only15:07
yohoffmanwe can't have users updating their quota can we...15:07
zanebdo we have docs somewhere on how to create an admin-only resource type?15:07
zanebI know we added support for that, but every time I go looking to figure out how to do it i come up empty-handed15:07
syjulianthat would help a lot :)15:07
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ramishraI'm not sure if  we have anything like that.15:08
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zanebramishra: you're not sure if the feature exists or if it's documented?15:09
* zaneb sometimes gets the sinking feeling that some of this stuff happened only in my head15:10
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syjulianalso who would be good to add as reviewers for this spec?15:10
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ramishrazaneb: both, I don't think there is anything to differentiate the admin resources or any docs on how to write them,15:11
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ramishrabut we have the keystone resources as mentioned in this spec, which can be used by admin only.15:11
ramishraatleast that's what I know.15:11
zanebmaybe I'm losing it then15:12
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yohoffmanWe can try and help write up some documentation as we go if that would be helpful.15:12
zanebyohoffman: so there's either a feature that says that the user must have a certain keystone role to use a particular resource type, or there isn't15:13
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zanebI thought we added one as a condition of moving all these resource types from /contrib into the main tree15:13
yohoffmanOh, I thought we said there are other admin-only resources already out there?15:14
cwolferhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/317329/15:14
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zanebyes! thank you cwolferh15:15
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cwolferhyep :-)15:15
* cwolferh thanks git log15:15
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yohoffmanLooks simple enough =)15:16
zanebyohoffman: so yeah, it needs to be added to the list in policy.json15:16
zanebmaybe mention that in the spec15:16
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zanebok, next topic?15:16
yohoffmansure, can do15:16
yohoffmanSo no docs necessary then?15:16
ramishrazaneb: Is that what you were looking for? the policy for resource types. may be I misunderstood.15:16
zanebramishra: yes, pretty sure that's what I was looking for15:17
zanebyohoffman: some docs would be a nice bonus :)15:17
zanebI think we have a plugin authors guide, right?15:17
yohoffmanAlright, we'll look around and see where we can fit it15:17
jezogwzaRegarding next topic. If we are ok with this Cinder Quota Resource Type, we have equivalent request for Nova and Neutron quotas15:17
zanebjezogwza: I have no objection to that either15:18
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zaneb#topic Newton-315:19
prazumovskyIf all of them will be admin only, why not then15:19
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syjulian\o/15:19
xenogear:)15:19
zanebI'm guessing this is happening RSN15:19
* zaneb looks up release schedule15:20
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zaneb#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html15:20
zanebfeature freeze for most projects is ~end of next week15:20
zanebwe're not on the calendar, but traditionally we have observed the same FF15:21
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zanebso let's take a look and see what is in danger of not landing15:21
zaneb#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/newton-315:22
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zanebcondition functions are close I think15:22
zanebplease review those; I will try to take another look too15:22
zanebramishra: what is the status of the environment merging?15:23
ramishraIt's up for review15:23
ramishrait's mostly done from my side, reviews are welcome, I think shardy has looked at it and is ok with it.15:24
zanebok, changed it to "needs code review"15:24
ramishrathough formal review is still waiting from hoim15:24
prazumovskyMy two cents: yesterday I send email about convergence get live state status15:24
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ramishraI think some of the bps should move to octa15:24
zanebramishra: is this still do-able/safe before FF do you think?15:24
zanebagree15:25
zanebpretty sure the HOT generator one is not close to landing15:25
ramishraI think so, it's quite simple, though without reviews I don't know;)15:25
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ramishraI think external resources thing has landed.15:26
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ramishraI changed it's status.15:26
zanebconvergence-migrate-stack appears to be done, is that right?15:27
anantahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/280836/15:28
zanebdon't see ochuprykov here, so I'm gonna change it and he can scream later if it's wrong15:28
zanebtempest-plugin-support is still in progress15:29
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zanebfiles-show seems to be done but the functional tests haven't merged yet15:30
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zanebwaiting on a heatclient release by the looks of it15:30
zanebso basically done, but I'll leave it open for now15:31
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zanebsfc-heat appears to have merged, closing15:31
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zanebobserve-reality was discussed on the ML as prazumovsky said before he dropped out15:32
zaneblbaas-l7-rules-support second patch seems to be stalled, needs rebase15:33
ramishranetwork-sfc, quite a few patches still to be reviewed or not attended by the author.15:33
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zanebneutron-dns-resolution is now marked implemented15:34
ramishraI think it would be good to move it to octa, or I'm missing something?15:35
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zanebramishra: oh, you're right. I only looked at the last one15:36
zanebah, that was just the spec15:36
zanebyeah, let's move to Ocata15:36
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zanebmigrate-to-glance-v2 also gets bumped (again)15:38
ramishrayeah, the issue of image location and the dicussion goes on from cycle to cycle;)15:39
zaneblol15:39
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zanebok, the list is looking a lot tidier15:40
zanebthanks everyone for sitting through this painful exercise ;)15:40
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zaneb#action cores, please give high priority to reviewing the remaining features on that list before FF next week15:41
zaneb#topic Open Discussion15:41
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zanebanybody got anything else to bring up?15:41
ramishratoo many gate failures in the last few days.15:41
ramishraI've created a tempest bug report FWIW https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/161407815:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614078 in tempest "heat api tests failing with Max retries exceeded with url" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi)15:42
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zanebramishra: yeah, it seems like it may have been premature to make the apache gate job voting?15:43
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ramishrait's affecting any job using tempest tests like grenade15:44
zanebah, ok15:44
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ramishragate-grenade-dsvm-heat is also failing quite a number of times.15:45
zanebso somebody else changed it and we are dealing with the fallout15:45
ramishraI don't know how to bring it to the attention of the tempest team.15:45
ramishramy previous experience is not that good;)15:46
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zanebramishra: can we change it in our config?15:47
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zanebor does it have to be in the tempest config?15:47
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ramishraIt's the tempest config I think. I'm not sure of the solution too. don't know much about tempest;)15:48
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* zaneb neither15:48
zanebah well, let's hope that bug report gets some attention15:49
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zaneb#info recheck grenade/apache job errors with bug 161407815:49
openstackbug 1614078 in tempest "heat api tests failing with Max retries exceeded with url" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614078 - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi)15:49
zanebananta: this one also worries me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/160781415:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607814 in heat "Error acquiring lock for resource" [Undecided,New]15:50
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anantalooking15:50
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anantazaneb: will investigate15:50
zanebananta: thanks! :)15:51
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ramishraone more thing, we've the devstack plugin in tree, I proposed a workaround to make it work, though any better ideas would be good too.15:51
ramishrawe probably should fix it before n315:51
zanebsounds sensible15:52
zanebI'll defer to someone who uses devstack on that ;)15:52
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zanebok, I think this is a good point to wrap up15:53
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zanebthanks everyone! your host next week will be ramishra :)15:53
zaneb#endmeeting15:54
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sdake_#startmeeting kolla16:00
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sdake_#topic rollcall16:00
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inc0o/16:00
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rhalliseysup16:00
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sdake_kullaidians16:00
egonzalez90Hi!16:00
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sdake_bot will forget me :(16:00
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inc0we should be called Kollish;)16:01
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akwasnieO/16:01
sdake_there is only one polish dude here :)16:01
sdake_oh two polish folks nm :)16:01
inc0dude, yes16:01
akwasnieTwo:)16:01
pbourkeo/16:01
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inc0but we also have a dudesse16:01
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britthouser0/16:02
coolsvapo/16:02
sdake_#topic announcements16:02
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sdake_1. some folks may already know, but openstack is transforming the format of summits in 201716:03
wirehead_o/16:03
sdake_moment finding link16:03
sdake_http://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/05/faq-evolving-the-openstack-design-summit16:03
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sdake_i'd encourage everyone to read through that faq16:04
sdake_it affects work happening in the next cycle16:04
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sdake_tldr is the summit will be split into two things - one the main event - and the other PTGS every 6 month16:04
sdake_ptg = project team gathering16:04
sdake_ptg = 4-500 people16:04
sdake_main summit = 8k people16:04
inc0no more tshirts for us?16:05
sdake_this change will trigger an overlap in how the releases are managed16:05
britthouserWill the PTG be colocated thing for all projects? or isolated like midcycles?16:05
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sdake_it will be in a central location britthouser16:05
sbezverkthey should not separate project, it will impact interproject activities16:06
sdake_britthouser and yes colocatedd for all projects16:06
sdake_well i dont have any feedback into the process, just reading the faq :)16:06
sdake_the main thing I wanted to get across is that plannning and execution will overlap16:06
sdake_we will be planning our next release while still wrapping up our lsat one16:06
sdake_(ie rc time may be or planning)16:07
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sdake_we can do whatever we like, but best to stick with the big tent program :)16:07
sdake_what this means is specs may become something we need16:07
sdake_so we can do that planning work16:07
sdake_any questions?16:07
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inc0we already discussed "light specs" that needs just 2*+216:08
sdake_right16:08
sdake_and dthat was before i knew about this :)16:08
inc0yeah16:08
inc0so it seems to serve the purpose well16:08
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sdake_anyway we can tackle itlater16:08
inc0I think we should discuss making it a thing from Ocata on16:08
sdake_just letting people know that 2017 will be changing thigns a bit16:09
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sdake_but its 2016 - so lets focus on now :)16:09
sdake_read the faq16:09
sdake_it does a much better job of explaining then my tldr16:09
sdake_nothing to be concerned with - ithink overall it is super positive for openswtack16:09
sdake_any other announcements from the community?16:10
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sdake_#topic osic scale teseting16:10
inc0guess not16:10
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sdake_#undo16:10
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sdake_#topic osic scale testing16:10
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sdake_pbourke like to give a status for the wider team?16:11
pbourkesure16:11
inc0ok, so we managed to get VM accessible from deploy node16:11
pbourkeor inc0 will do :)16:11
sdake_whatever works16:11
sdake_i dont know who has the most recent info16:11
inc0ok, I'll keep going;)16:11
pbourkego go!16:11
inc0so yesterday we managed to (at last) get our cluster configured in a way that allows us to access vm16:11
inc0we need to prep our modified version of init-runonce for that16:12
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inc0and prep rally to be able to run full set of benchmarks16:12
inc0after that we'll have good validation tool for our deployments16:12
inc0we're about half-way through cluster access16:12
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pbourkeso essentially we need to finish the rest of our testing this weeek16:13
inc0next steps: make init-runcone, configure rally, redeploy kolla with different config16:13
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pbourkeif we want to leave the last week free for baremetal testing sean's stuff16:13
inc0well, we still have 2 weeks or so16:13
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sdake_pbourke - I've spoken with seean about that issue16:13
pbourkei would like to go through each deploy again once we get the rally stuff ready16:14
pbourkeas what we have on the review currently is minimal16:14
sdake_sean was good with us taking the time to do the first part  we committeed to correctly16:14
inc0I'll work with him to get him some more pemanent access to bare metal16:14
sdake_pbourke go through each deploy- can you expand?16:14
pbourkesdake_: so in the original etherpad we have a variety of deploy scenarios laid out16:14
inc0so we can test BM deployment after we're done with cluster16:14
pbourkeso far we've done a couple of them but have not got much rally benchmarks16:15
pbourkeso I think it would be valuable to do them again and get a consistent set of rally reports16:15
pbourkeit should be quite straight forward16:15
sdake_ahh you rmean redo the work16:15
sdake_yes I agree16:15
coolsvappbourke: yes16:15
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sdake_I was wwondering if you emant we should sanitize our list of scenarios16:15
sdake_pbourke ^^16:16
pbourkena I think what we have is ok16:16
britthouserSo once rally ready to rock and roll, we GOTO #1? or #2?16:16
pbourkeGOTO #116:16
sdake_we are at the starting line16:16
pbourkeits a 20 min deploy for each :)16:16
sdake_2 weeks in :)16:16
inc0we also need some able body to setup cobbler with centos16:16
sdake_foortunately kola is super  fast16:17
inc0as we're just doing ubuntu-14.04 now16:17
sdake_kolla that is16:17
sdake_agree centos comparison would be grand16:17
sdake_lets get through ubuntu first16:17
pbourkeanother thing16:17
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britthouserSo 0. Rally, then 1-5 with ubuntu, then 1-5 with centos?16:17
pbourkeplease drop status reports to me in EMEA tz's and britthouser in US16:18
sdake_iirc there were 12 test scenarios16:18
pbourkeotherwise its hard for us to keep track of things and keep things rolling when you go to bed :)16:18
inc0so another way would be to deploy ubuntu xenial16:18
inc0it should support container from both centos and ubutnu16:18
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sdake_inc0 thats an invalid test imo16:18
inc0ok16:18
inc0fair enough16:18
vhosakoto/ (sorry my late)16:18
britthouserI'm thinking lets get 1-11 done with ubuntu16:18
britthousersince we have that working16:19
sdake_right16:19
sdake_then repave16:19
sdake_then 1-12 with centos16:19
coolsvappbourke: can we sync on rally after the meeting?16:19
britthouserOk.  I can probably work on getting centos in the cobbler when that time comes.16:19
sdake_but id like to be clear - if we can't do centos, its not the end of the world16:19
britthouseragreed16:19
pbourkecoolsvap: im pretty busy for the evening, but inc0 can fill you in the latest16:19
sdake_what is critical is etting 1-11 done in a review for any os :)16:19
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coolsvappbourke: sure fine with me16:19
britthouserCan you circle me into that mtg coolsvap?16:20
sdake_rhallisey - can you set the topic to indicate a link to the etherpad for the osic scale testing pls16:20
rhalliseysdake_, ya16:20
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coolsvapbritthouser: Sure on #openstack-kolla16:21
sdake_(in the channel topic i mean of #openstack-kolla)16:21
rhalliseyya I know16:21
sdake_cool16:21
rhalliseywhat's the link?16:21
rhalliseydont' have it present16:21
britthouserhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic16:21
sdake_ok - well sounds like we are in solid shape there16:21
rhalliseythx16:21
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sdake_sorry - got distracted with ping from doug16:22
sdake_ok16:22
sdake_#topic merge madness16:22
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sdake_our review queue is getting very long16:23
britthouserlol16:23
sdake_we have a ton of work to merge within the next 15 days16:23
sdake_osic timing and milestone 3 timing not ideal16:23
sdake_but we have to deal with it16:23
sdake_prioritize osic over reviews16:23
sdake_and we can sort out the mess down teh rooad16:23
sdake_what i do need ffrom folks is to start reviewing heavily16:24
vhosakotI'll review in the queue... reviewed some this week... I signed up for reconfigure for OSIC scaling16:24
sdake_vhosakot roger - need output from every core reviewer16:24
sdake_top performance on the reviews for next 2 weeks - then things should settle down a little bit16:24
sdake_i'm open to suggestions for making our experience less painful16:24
rhalliseyreview the fernet patch pls16:24
rhallisey:)16:25
sdake_pbourke mentioned something about the gate being busted16:25
rhalliseyit's pretty solid16:25
vhosakotsdake_: done, also I observed the F5 VPN doesn't work sometimes.. saw a mail fro Jeffrey4l as well.. does anyone see it16:25
sdake_but i wasnt clear if Jeffrey4l fixed that or not16:25
Jeffrey4lF5 vpn works16:25
sdake_vhosakot - we can take that up in opens :)16:25
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vhosakotcool,16:25
pbourkei think the gate is getting better now apart from ubuntu16:25
sdake_nothing we can do about ubuntu16:26
pbourkeJeffrey4l has a patch for it but think there's problems16:26
sdake_nobodyd knows why it is broken16:26
sdake_i'd suggest just ignoring it for now - fixing it could take weeks or more16:26
sdake_we have burned 4-6 weeks on fixing the ubuntu gate already16:26
Jeffrey4lit is weird for ubuntu deploy. still debugging.16:26
pbourkesdake_: if you're talking about the libvirt issue that was fixed16:26
inc0pbourke, what was that btw?16:26
sdake_nice16:27
pbourkeinc0: we never found out recently it just started going green again16:27
inc0lol16:27
pbourkebut now its busted due to some repo issue16:27
pbourke:(16:27
sdake_nice - hesingbugs ftl16:27
sdake_pbourke right - thats on my plate to sort out16:27
sdake_pbourke i'll look at that today16:27
pbourkeits hard to review with red gates16:27
pbourkeas people ignore them and bugs do go in16:28
sdake_i hear what your saying16:28
rhalliseyalso I have reviews for huge doc restructure16:28
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rhalliseyrebasing it is hard :)16:28
pbourkealso we need to get some more cores on board16:28
rhalliseythe review is easy, just moved stuff around :)16:28
sdake_rhallisey speaking of that there is a doc change in teh queue i want to go in beffore yours16:28
rhalliseysdake_, ok16:28
sdake_would appredciate if you wouldn't mind rebasing it after that16:28
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sdake_because its a critical critical problem eating up lots of time16:28
sdake_so onto the red gates16:28
sdake_pbourke which one in particular are you concerned with16:29
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sdake_just the general flakiness of the gates?16:30
sdake_or is one in particular troubling16:30
sdake_(just the ubuntu deploy?)16:30
sdake_while pbourke thinks - i'd jsut like to say16:30
sdake_please don't merge patches that have red gates except for gates we expect to fail16:31
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sdake_that just creates a huge problem to sort out - instead recheck the patch16:31
pbourkesdake_: the only ones that are broken are the ubuntu ones16:31
pbourkesdake_: due to repo issue that I think you can fix16:31
Jeffrey4lmay be it is time we should voting some jobs. like centos related.16:31
sdake_Jeffrey4l - working on it - my reviews stalled in infra atm16:32
pbourkealso bandit, some core please approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353942/16:32
sdake_yes bandit gates are broken16:32
sdake_ignore those until they go green16:32
Jeffrey4lcool16:32
sdake_its a lot of manual work to create a  mirror16:32
sdake_and only a few folks know how to do it16:32
sdake_and eveyrone is overloaded16:32
sdake_so i wouldn't expect voting gates to help us before milestone 3 (8/31)16:33
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sdake_ok - so bad gates are blocking reviews because reviewers concerned about bugs?16:33
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sdake_pbourke - i'll be on that ubuntu gate today - we fix up the bandit gate- we should be all green16:34
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pbourkecool16:34
sdake_so now assuming the gates are green - need lots of review output from the team :)16:34
sdake_ok i think thats beaten into the ground now :)16:34
sdake_#topic milestone #316:35
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sdake_#link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-316:35
sdake_if folks take a moment to open that up16:35
sdake_going to be bouncing non-good progress blueprints out of the release after this meeting16:36
sdake_if there is anything critical there, i'll keep it in and we can focus on it as a team, like the osic work16:36
sdake_(critical but not in good progreess)16:37
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sdake_it a a whole lot of blueprints16:37
sdake_most of the work is done16:37
sdake_it just needs reviews16:37
sdake_at our best we are able to work through about 25 blueprints in 2 weeks that are marked in good progress16:37
sdake_focus reviews on priority list16:38
sdake_if anyone has suggestions - taking all ideas :)16:39
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sdake_the only one I have is increase capacity (more reviews) reduce delivery (less changes)16:39
sdake_we may have to do both of these things in paralell16:40
sdake_we will take another look next week16:40
pbourkesdake_: we should review stackalytics for a few core nominations16:40
pbourkesdake_: lot of good reviews being done by people with no +a rights16:40
sdake_pbourke sounds good - and I totally agree there are folks that are ready for cr16:40
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sdake_pbourke would folks be opposed to a shorter voting window (then 1 week) for core review nominations if any of you make them :)16:41
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sdake_such as 3 days16:41
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inc0sdake_, let's keep it 1 week imho16:41
sdake_ohk16:42
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sdake_#topic kolla-kubernetes16:42
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sdake_rhallisey take it away16:42
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes16:42
rhalliseylist of bps16:42
rhalliseyalthough a little redundant, we do need to keep our reviews up16:43
rhalliseyneutron and nova patches are in16:43
rhalliseyI'm going to go through and test spawning vms and such to make a video16:43
rhalliseysoon hopefully16:43
rhalliseynext steps after the core services is we will look at bringing in ansible16:44
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rhalliseyalso folks keep thinking about a session or two for summit :)16:44
sdake_nice on neutron and nova16:44
sdake_does it work :)16:45
rhalliseysdake_, I haven't tried it yet16:45
wirehead_Still in the “almost” state.16:45
sdake_rhallisey I will start the summit planning after milestone 316:45
sdake_rhallisey w ewill have 3-4 brainstorm sessions on the topic16:45
rhalliseywirehead_, gotcha.  Do you have any further updates to it?16:45
wirehead_Unfortunately, no.  :/16:45
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rhalliseywirehead_, anywhere you're stuck?16:45
rhalliseykk16:45
rhalliseysdake_, cool sounds good16:45
wirehead_Not having as much time to work on Kolla-kubernetes at the moment.16:46
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rhalliseywirehead_, I'm fixing up my dev environment so hoepfully I'll be of use soon16:46
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rhalliseyoh one more thing regarding the CLI/ansible16:46
rhalliseytalked with kfox about rest calls16:47
wirehead_Like, it’s really close.16:47
rhalliseywirehead_, awesome. Cant' wait!16:47
wirehead_Nova runs without throwing up errors, it’s just lacking flavors and images.16:47
rhalliseywirehead_, that's the default16:47
wirehead_Yah.16:47
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sbezverkif you merge my glance patch16:48
sbezverkyou will have images16:48
rhalliseysbezverk, I'll get to it later16:48
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sdake_its always later around here ;)16:48
rhalliseyindeed16:48
rhalliseysoon*16:49
sdake_#topic open discussion16:49
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rhalliseyreview review review :)16:49
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sdake_lets all chant together with rhallisey16:49
inc0I propose new tradition in our community: on every meeting let's make a woot for kolla16:49
inc0chant will work too16:49
sdake_ok rhallisey kick us off16:50
rhalliseyreview16:50
sdake_review review review!16:50
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rhalliseywhere's the support?16:50
rhalliseylols16:51
sdake_irc lag rhallisey16:51
inc0review review review16:51
sbezverkwhere are my damn reviews?!?!?16:51
rhalliseycopy paste come on16:51
egonzalez90review review review!16:51
rhalliseyhaha :)16:51
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sdake_we are half way there :)16:51
sdake_keep em coming16:51
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duonghqcan I have a question? Today I just investigate in the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/161230416:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612304 in kolla "stable mitaka uses tag 3.0.0" [High,New]16:52
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sdake_duonghq working on that one myself16:52
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sdake_rhallisey i guess our chant failed16:52
rhalliseythink so16:52
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sdake_on the positive side - its end of meeting and people are probably watching youtube atm :)16:52
sdake_thanks folks for coming16:53
sdake_ttyl16:53
duonghqsorry, :P16:53
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rhallisey:)16:53
sdake_#endmeeting16:53
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RaginBajin#startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring19:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 19:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is RaginBajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: operators_ops_tools_monitoring)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring'19:00
RaginBajin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-2016081719:00
RaginBajinThe agenda is out there..  I think the biggest thing to talk about if anyone is here is making this a monthly meeting as we don't have a lot of user partitipation but we do manage the osops repos19:00
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RaginBajinI'll wait till 10 minutes after the hour.. If no one is here, then I'll close the meeting with the intention of changing how often we meet19:01
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RaginBajinOk.. Another highly communicative meeting..19:11
RaginBajin#endmeeting19:11
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"19:11
openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 17 19:11:39 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:11
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-17-19.00.html19:11
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-17-19.00.txt19:11
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-17-19.00.log.html19:11
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JRobinson__Hi all, I'll start the persona meeting if there are attendees today.21:06
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JRobinson__okay, no user guides meeting for this fortnight. Rescheduling21:22
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