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nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak13:59
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nikhil#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 18 14:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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nikhil#topic roll call14:00
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tsymanczyk\o14:00
nikhilhi bunting14:00
buntingnikhil: Hello!14:00
itishao/14:00
liweio/14:00
dharinicHello all.14:00
Jokke_o/14:00
nikhilwelcome all14:00
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nikhilWe've a short agenda today.14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
nikhillet's get started14:00
nikhil#topic agenda14:00
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nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
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nikhilif any one needs to add one or two items, we still have space/time14:01
nikhilbut you can choose to do so in open discussion as well14:01
nikhil#topic Community Images Updates14:01
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nikhilYesterday, the champions/liaisons of this features met on #openstack-glance and determined the state14:02
nikhilfrom the looks of it, the implementation is looking to be a tad more complicated than it was expected14:02
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nikhilbut nothing we can't achieve in the next couple of months14:02
nikhilalso, there's this issue of making sure client release matches with the release of the API as we will expect API impact14:03
nikhilclient behavior needs to be adjusted according to what's required and what's preferred14:03
nikhilbut all of that will be possible when API is ready14:03
nikhilPlan of action on this feature is being updated at:14:04
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-images-work-items14:04
nikhilThe tentative timeline is API targetted just before the summit14:04
Jokke_nikhil: so expectation is that it will be ready to merge when Ocata opens?14:04
nikhiland client, tests outside source tree and docs for o-214:04
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nikhilJokke_: not sure, we've about 6 weeks for Ocata to officially start14:05
nikhilbut ocata opens much before14:05
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nikhili.e. right when n-3 is cut (which is in 2 weeks)14:05
tsymanczykit will not be done in 2 weeks.14:06
nikhilso, I don't think API will be ready in 2 weeks14:06
Jokke_Ocata opens when RC1 is cut, not N-3, right14:06
Jokke_?14:06
nikhilJokke_: I think the stable/newton is cut at n-3 and backports are done starting/in rc-1 too14:06
nikhilit will be hard to get this in even if we get a FFE14:07
Jokke_oh, that's new ... and totally crap plan. Oh well, we'll see how it works out.14:07
Jokke_I would not be comfortable to try to get this in for Newton anymore14:08
nikhilJokke_: can you please elaborate on your dislike about the plan? may be we can reconsider alternate plan for community images14:08
Jokke_nikhil: I was more worried about the release14:08
nikhilI see14:08
Jokke_normally there has been stabilization between Rel-3 and RC1 to keep focus on fixing stuff rather than doing new14:09
Jokke_if that period is gone, this will just shift everyones focus away 2 months early14:09
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nikhilJokke_: I will confirm the dates on the cut of stable/newton, but at this point that's where am at.14:09
nikhilnoted14:10
nikhilI was able to keep up with a few updated to the project team guide, and ML emails but I would like to point out references before I claim authority over dates.14:10
nikhilupdates*14:10
Jokke_so my assumption for "by start of Ocata" was expectation of ~6-7 weeks from now, not 2 ;)14:11
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nikhilJokke_: yeah :) it's a tricky understanding14:11
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nikhilJokke_: officially ocata is supposed to start at the summit week (At least that's what I've been communicated before)14:12
nikhilbut technically, any commit that doesn't go in stable/newton will be Ocata14:12
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nikhiland that's what I really meant by Ocata (the release notes, updates to docs and communication to packagers/ops) will need to be done accordingly. However, from a developer perspective ocata features may not officially start until after 6 weeks. (as there are restrictions on what can get in until then)14:13
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Jokke_cool ... move on ... sorry for hijacking14:14
nikhilEither way, I won't be able to give much attention to CI (Community Images) until after Newton is stabilized.14:14
nikhilSo, there is expected delay to this development and we will try our best to get it done before the summit.14:15
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nikhilPlease see the updates on the etherpad linked above.14:15
nikhilThanks!14:15
nikhil#topic Import Refactor14:15
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nikhilSo, this is the only major feature that needs core attention from here on to newton is released.14:16
nikhilWe've about 5 commits:14:16
nikhilhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:import-refactor-newton14:16
nikhilI've picked up: https://review.openstack.org/27098014:16
nikhiland rosmaita has picked up 2 https://review.openstack.org/267209 https://review.openstack.org/31297214:16
nikhilthese are WIP and patches will be up when a good commit is up14:16
nikhilwe are trying to avoid pushing WIP stuff to gerrit14:17
nikhilas it could potentially result into red herring (like before in the early phase of the cycle)14:17
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* Jokke_ starts stretching14:18
nikhilThe glance gate has been cleaned for about a month now and only 2-4 other commits look solid candidats for newton14:18
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nikhilAlso, I expect to push another commit/amend to the spec that writes up "declaration of intent"14:18
nikhilthis will include details from our conversation early in the cycle and at the defcore ML (plus other details like defcore test spec)14:19
nikhiloops, not defcore ML but defcore midcycle14:19
nikhilConcrete stuff by next meeting.14:20
nikhilcomments?14:20
Jokke_waiting for that ... honestly I'm worried about the late time for this, but we'll see14:21
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nikhiloh well, we'd do only so much with no one dedicated to it the whole cycle and defcore being the bottleneck the whole time.14:22
nikhilI forgot to mention, the above 3 commits are expected to cover the Discovery call needed for the import refactor.14:22
Jokke_nikhil: not saying that. I'm more concerned rushing it in now than the fact that we have had headwind pretty much last 2 cycles now14:22
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nikhilThat's the first phase of the plan, I think there's a few updates required to good work from stuart right after that.14:23
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nikhilJokke_: totally get that. I think we can discuss things around your concerns on the declaration of intent14:23
Jokke_just want to remind everyone to be careful with the reviews. Once we release that endpoint and it's behavior we need to stick with it14:24
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rosmaita+114:24
nikhilthe community issues have been resolved to great extent and people will have to think twice if not thrice before blaming glance about anything!14:24
nikhilJokke_: absolutely14:24
nikhilparticularly the discovery bit14:25
nikhilmoving on14:26
nikhil#topic Releases updates ( nikhil )14:26
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nikhilrelease schedule is:14:27
nikhil#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:27
nikhilPlan is to cut newton-3 by Aug 31st14:27
nikhilbut really depends on our momentum14:27
nikhil"Not official yet" final releases of:14:28
nikhilglance_store is 0.17.014:28
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356857/14:28
nikhilpython-glanceclient is 2.4.014:28
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356855/14:28
nikhilbut I hope that they are final (and we don't have to deal with any bugs)14:28
nikhilcomments/questions?14:28
Jokke_so we are feature complete for Newton?14:29
Jokke_In a sense that at least nothing will anymore be merged to the client?14:29
nikhilyeah14:30
nikhilnothing is WIP in client or store14:30
nikhilany spcs that were approved and not implemented will be moved to ocata for implementation (no need for reapproval) . this includes specs from privious cycles.14:31
Jokke_wow14:31
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nikhilJokke_: wow as in bad wow or good wow?14:32
nikhilor worried wow :)14:32
nikhil(just trying to make sure we don't get last minute surprises)14:32
Jokke_Not sure yet ;)14:32
Jokke_Surprised at least ;)14:32
nikhilok14:32
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nikhilI think we've had good attention for client and store in terms of reviews as compared to their size relative to glance.14:33
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nikhilmoving on14:34
nikhil#topic Barcelona Design Summit space needs14:34
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nikhilSo, for Austin we had  allocation as : 3fb, 5wr, cm:full (2 half days)14:34
nikhilbut here's the list of major constraints for Ocata14:35
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nikhilThere's going to be change in the design summit style/conferences. So, Ocata will be *much* shorter cycle -- only 15 weeks between the design summit and feature freeze, including thanksgiving and other end-of-year holidays14:36
nikhilttx has indicated that we don't need to plan much work for the same.14:36
Jokke_In that perspective our work is also pretty much planned for short release14:37
Jokke_if we are going to take that import refactoring seriously14:37
nikhilThe slots are lesses than Austin and they had to squeeze in the design sessions a bit to accomodate ops meetup to not overlap with cross project workshops.14:37
nikhillesser*14:37
nikhilSo, contributors' meetup will only be maximum one half day (ie. only Friday afternoon)14:38
nikhilas the sessions will be scheduled until Friday morning.14:38
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nikhil#info All: Plan your travel to summit/Barcelona to attend if ops meetup then Tues or if only cross project + project meetups then Tues evening 4pm onward and *back* on Saturday.14:40
* Jokke_ is gonna be there Sun-Sat all booked already14:40
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nikhilThe contributions to the project and activity etc will be taken into consideration before the slots are allocated to us.14:41
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nikhilWe still need to give our preferences to the planners:14:41
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nikhilthey want to be done by Aug 31st so here's my take on what will work for us14:42
nikhil2FB, 4WR, 1CM14:42
nikhilour request is lesser than Austin and it's not too less.14:42
Jokke_I'd say even 2+2 would be likely enough for us14:42
abashmaksorry, can you expand the acronyms?14:42
nikhilAlso, like Jokke_ rightly pointed out we've a bit of backlog too.14:43
rosmaitafishbowl, workroom, contributors' meetup14:43
nikhilFB == Fishbowl ( Our traditional largish rooms organized in fishbowl style, with14:43
nikhiladvertised session content on the summit schedule for increased external14:43
nikhilparticipation. Ideal for when wider feedback is essential.)14:43
nikhilthos are (from Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon)14:43
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nikhilWR == Workroom sessions (from Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon)14:43
nikhilSmaller rooms organized in boardroom style, with topic buried in the14:43
nikhilsession description, in an effort to limit attendance and not overcrowd14:43
nikhilthe room. Ideal to get work done and prioritize work in small teams.14:43
nikhilCM == Contributors meetup (Friday afternoon)14:43
nikhilHalf-day session on Friday afternoon to get into the Ocata action while14:43
nikhildecisions and plans are still hot, or to finish discussions started14:43
nikhilduring the week, whatever works for you.14:43
Jokke_2+2+1 I mean14:43
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nikhilso for work session, I think what we need is:14:45
nikhil1 for ops meetup (like in Austin -- may be useful for rolling upgrades)14:45
nikhil1 for defcore meetup (casual updates and get to know plus communicate awarenss)14:45
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nikhil1 for updates on the code for CI and import (half each)14:45
nikhiland 1 for anyone who has a idea (we could potentially accomodate new contributors to ensure our team keeps growing and reviews are not stalled)14:46
hemanthmrolling upgrades?14:46
rosmaitai don't think the defcore one is necessary?14:46
rosmaitai think we need 1 wr for image import for sure, dont' think we should split it14:46
rosmaitaand we will need community images (CI)14:47
nikhilhemanthm: that was just my take, I don't know how much feedback we still need from ops14:47
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nikhilops meetups have always helped put a good perspective14:47
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Jokke_nikhil: I thought you said there is this time dedicated time for the ops meetup so we don't need to use design sessions for that14:48
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hemanthmwe are working on three big changes for Ocata: image import, community images and rolling upgrades. And, the ocata dev cycle is much shorter as pointed out earlier14:48
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nikhilrosmaita: the defcore one was to indicate collaboration between osc/infra/defcore/glance/glare. but upto the team on what they think is a good idea.14:48
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Jokke_Well I hope we wouldn't need community Images as nikhil pointed out that it's best case scenario merged by summit14:48
hemanthmare we comfortable with tackling those three big changes in a short cycle?14:48
nikhilJokke_: if people are expecting to go to ops meetup then surely we can avoid that. I am just taking the prior experiences into account.14:49
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nikhilwell, I don't think we need to include all the changes that we discuss at the summit in that specific cycle itself14:49
Jokke_hemanthm: I'm sure we can comfortably take them on and not deliver :P14:49
nikhilbut if we are going to have specs discussions, then it's best to take every opportunity to have some F2F time14:50
Jokke_++14:50
rosmaitai think rolling upgrades are important, we need a devoted session14:50
nikhilhaving F2F time reduces the risk of red herrings14:50
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hemanthmtrue, but it helps to manage/set expectations14:50
Jokke_I also think we need to make decision at least what we & glare folks are going to do about glance_store14:50
hemanthmwe can't leave it open ended14:50
nikhilyep14:51
nikhilJokke_: ^14:51
Jokke_we likely need to at least come together and see if we are going to refactor it for both projects or forget about it14:51
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Jokke_nikhil: just noticed we have 8min ... was there something else in the agenda?14:52
nikhilhemanthm: yes, for planning we need interested people at the CM, to be able to come to a common understanding about the cycle plans.14:52
nikhilJokke_: nothing from me14:52
nikhilwe can continue this in open discussion14:53
nikhil#topic open discussion14:53
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Jokke_our "short agenda" ;)14:53
nikhil:)14:53
tsymanczykhe wasn't wrong.14:53
nikhil0:)14:53
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nikhilty tsymanczyk (I indeed wasn't under the impression this mtg will stretch so long)14:54
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nikhilhemanthm: and rosmaita : you're currently driving rolling upgrade specs. so I don't want to enforce having a session on you guys.14:54
nikhilbut asking a slot for it is still better than not asking for it in the first place14:55
Jokke_tsymanczyk: so quick question. Some acute issues you're fighting with on the community images?14:55
rosmaitayes, we definitely want a slot14:55
nikhilwe can always concede our slot later but can't necessarily ask for more14:55
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hemanthm++ rosmaita14:55
rosmaitamy point earlier is that i think we need a full slot for rolling upgrades14:56
nikhilrosmaita: and any objections for it to be shared with ops/sync but I guess we don't have to plan that now14:56
nikhil?14:56
nikhilrosmaita: I see14:56
rosmaitai think it needs to be RG focused14:56
nikhilshould I start a etherpad for summit planning?14:56
rosmaitayes!!!14:57
nikhilaight14:57
rosmaitawe can discuss all this on the etherpad14:57
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nikhil#action nikhil: start a etherpad to discuss the slots needed for Barcelona summit14:57
nikhilany more items?14:58
rosmaitanikhil: was there a deadline for submission for design summit slot requests?14:58
Jokke_rosmaita: it was 31st14:58
nikhilrosmaita: latest Aug 31st is when the data needs to be sent from our end14:58
rosmaitaty14:59
rosmaitaJokke_: about community images: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-images-work-items14:59
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nikhil30 secs :)14:59
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nikhilrosmaita: -glance?15:00
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nikhilThanks all!15:00
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nikhilrosmaita: yt?15:00
rosmaitayup15:00
nikhilrosmaita: want a min or should we chat on the other channel?15:00
rosmaitanikhil: took me a minute to realize what you meant!15:00
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nikhilok, let's end this meeting15:01
nikhilcrowd here for next one15:01
nikhil#endmeeting15:01
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TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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TravTo/15:01
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yingjuno/15:01
sjmc7morning15:01
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TravTdavid-lyle: matt-borland saw you wave in the previous meeting15:02
lei-zho/15:02
matt-borlandlol o/15:02
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TravTok15:02
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TravTagenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:03
david-lyleo/15:03
* david-lyle re-waves15:03
matt-borlando/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/15:03
TravT#topic Newton Milestone 3 has 2 weeks left15:03
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TravTmatt is very excited today15:03
david-lylematt-borland: that's just excessive15:03
* matt-borland coffee15:04
* TravT needs coffee15:04
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TravT#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/newton15:04
sjmc7wow, that came up fast15:04
TravTyep15:04
TravTanything missing from that list?15:05
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TravTanything we can drop now?15:05
TravTi'm gonna punt nova-keypair-plugin15:06
TravTno progress made15:06
sjmc7the nova-disble-events one is probably as done as it’s getting15:06
sjmc7oh, sorry, it’s already marked implemented15:06
* sjmc7 also needs coffee15:06
TravTi put a note on nova keypair asking hiroyuki about progress, but not response15:06
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sjmc7versioned notifications i guess is the big open one15:07
sjmc7it doesn’t look like they made as much progress as hoped15:07
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TravTdid you make it to the meeting this week?15:07
* TravT embarrassed that I again did not15:08
sjmc7no15:08
sjmc7too many things juggling this week15:08
TravTActually, no logs this week from it15:09
TravTmaybe they went back to every other week15:09
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TravTand last week didn't have anything really15:09
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TravTprobably need to reach out to gibi15:09
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TravTlei-zh: how is it going with pipeline?15:10
lei-zhI'm add test cases for the code15:10
lei-zhProbably I'll rebase on master at weekend15:10
TravTok15:11
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TravTwell, let's move on15:11
TravT#topic Elastic Search 1.x not officialy supported15:12
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TravTwe've discussed this before15:12
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TravTand we spoke of moving devstack to 2.x15:12
TravTwell, sdague doesn't want elasticsearch in devstack proper repo15:12
TravTso sjmc7 implemented ES 2.x install in our searchlight plugin15:13
TravTES 1.x is deprecated and out of support for elastic.co15:13
TravTgiven that apparently there isn't interest in maintaining any common ES support level15:14
sjmc7i think they’re still supporting it for a while, but they’re aggressively encouraging people to upgrade15:14
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TravTWell, I don't particularly think we need to maintain support for 1.x in SL.15:14
TravTfor the next two releases15:14
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TravTMaybe just go ahead and put in the docs that our minimum support level is 2.x15:15
TravTthoughts?15:15
sjmc7yeah, i’m fine with that15:15
sjmc7the gate’s still blocked on the es-1 tests15:15
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david-lylesince we're just going to 1.0 I don't think deprecation is a large concern15:16
TravTyes, we need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356757/15:16
TravTthrought15:16
TravTthrough15:16
rosmaitai agree, no need to support 1.x15:16
TravTokay.15:17
TravT#decision Newton Searchlight will support ElasticSearch 2.x and greater (not ElasticSearch 1.x)15:18
TravT#topic Barcelona Summit15:18
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TravTi just got an email today already asking us to consider our space needs15:19
rosmaitaa room with windows!~15:19
sjmc7i guess that depends how many people are going...15:19
TravTright15:19
sjmc7:D  it’ll be a broom closet with 95 degree heat15:19
david-lylethere will be at least 115:19
david-lylenot sure who15:19
TravTWe are supposed to submit request by August 3115:20
TravTso, please start discussions with your management15:20
TravTand we can check back in on this next week15:20
TravTmaybe david-lyle can proxy for all of us... ;)15:20
david-lyleI'm not sure I'm the one15:21
david-lylejust 1 of all of searchlight15:21
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david-lyleI'm a strong tentative15:21
TravTwe could get somebody to set up a room full of laptops15:21
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TravTfacing eachother15:21
TravTand then log us all into a video conference15:21
TravT;)15:21
sjmc7i already a told rob i’m gonna find someone to stick a broom with a phone on the end in a roomba15:22
TravTnice15:22
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TravTFYI, this is from the email15:22
TravT    The main difference with Austin is that the whole Summit event starts on15:22
TravT    the Tuesday and is only 4 days. Since we didn't want the Ops sessions to15:23
TravT    overlap with cross-project workshops, we had to squeeze things a little.15:23
TravT    The plan is to have:15:23
TravT15:23
TravT    - Ops summit on Tuesday morning until 4pm15:23
TravT    - Cross-project workshops from Tuesday 4pm to Wednesday 4pm15:23
TravT    - Fishbowl/Workroom sessions from Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon15:23
TravT    - Contributors meetups on Friday afternoon15:23
TravT15:23
TravT    One consequence of the squeeze is that "contributors meetups" will be15:23
TravT    maximum half-a-day long and will be on Friday *afternoon*.15:23
sjmc7that’s a bit sad if folks aren’t staying the extra night15:23
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rosmaitathat's a pretty tight schedule15:24
TravTyes, it is15:24
sjmc7are the regular talks running tuesday through wednesday?15:24
rosmaitaguaranteed to have lots of conflicts15:24
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TravTsjmc7: i don't know... perhaps through thursday15:25
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TravT#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/15:25
TravTThe Summit will run for four days, Tuesday - Friday, October 25-28, 2016:15:26
TravTKeynotes will be held Tuesday and Wednesday15:26
TravTMarketplace Expo Hall is open Tuesday - Thursday15:26
TravTMain Conference Breakout sessions run Tuesday – Thursday15:26
TravTDesign Summit developer & operator working sessions run Tuesday - Friday15:26
TravTokay, something to think about15:27
TravT#topic Searchlight UI Usability Study15:27
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TravTWe have some goals and tasks filled in15:27
TravT#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ui-usuability-study15:28
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TravTIf anybody has ideas for realistic tasks that we should add, please suggest15:29
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sjmc7it’s going to be unsupervised, right?15:31
TravTyes.15:31
sjmc7we can’t have david screaming instrcutions at them15:32
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david-lylewhy not?15:32
TravT"no, don't click that!"15:32
TravT"I TOLD you NOT to click that!"15:32
TravTwe will need to massage out the instructions a bit more15:32
TravTi had asked piet for additional instructions on what to do next, but I don't think he got back to me15:33
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TravTi'll ping him again.15:33
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sjmc7it’ll be good to see some normal people use it15:36
sjmc7i think travis may have disappeared15:37
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sjmc7#topic Call for reviews15:38
sjmc7next up!15:38
sjmc7two tricky patches are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351896/ adding more policy support and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348701/ add neutron’s sharing RBAC support (similar to glance's)15:39
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TravTsorry i dropped15:40
TravTanybody still here?15:40
rosmaitahi15:41
lei-zho/15:41
david-lyleo/15:41
rosmaitasjmc7 was carrying on15:41
TravTcool15:41
sjmc7like a tortoise15:41
* david-lyle arm's getting tired15:41
sjmc7so yes, any reviews on those welcome15:41
sjmc7you need to work out more15:41
sjmc7the policy one i may split up; it got a bit big15:41
david-lylein a digital society?15:41
yingjuno/15:41
sjmc7other than those two i don’t think there are many complicated pieces left, so it’ll mainly be bug fixes and testing15:42
sjmc7maybe work out with your fingers15:42
sjmc7anyone else have any reviews they wanted to discuss?15:42
lei-zhnot able to do reviews recently, will take a look at them soon15:43
sjmc7yeah, i’ve been busy with other stuff as well recently, hoping to free up soon15:43
TravTif needed, i think policy stuff should have FFE15:44
david-lyle+115:44
sjmc7i’ll try to at least get stage 2 started by n-315:44
sjmc7so it’s less controversial15:44
TravTok, thanks.15:44
david-lylesjmc7: are you splitting up the first one? or should we just roll it as is?15:44
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sjmc7functionality wise it’s done, so if we can merge it in one go i’m fine with that15:45
david-lylebetter than reworking it15:45
TravTif we don't have to split it out, then i'd rather not.15:45
sjmc7ok, i’ll leave it15:45
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sjmc7it looks bigger than it is because it changes all the plugin files, but they’re just a coupld of properties15:46
david-lyleok, I'll look again today15:46
sjmc7the additions i did yesterday were to properly support the admin_or_owner type rules15:46
TravTthanks david-lyle15:46
david-lylelast I saw there was a jenkins issue15:46
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sjmc7yeah, i’m trying to get the gozer admins to approve a patch disabling that test15:46
david-lyleI think I saw those15:46
TravTwe need to get that patch through unblocking the gate.15:46
sjmc7got broken by a python-elasticsearch change15:46
david-lylehow is gozer effecting upstream?15:47
sjmc7need approval from the infra team, and several work for us15:47
david-lyleok15:47
sjmc7if you have a friendly infra core, the review is https://review.openstack.org/35675715:47
sjmc7just makes a job non-voting15:48
sjmc7ok, last up since we’re running out of time15:48
sjmc7#topic Health Check Middleware15:48
TravTi was hoping Kevin_Zheng would be here for that one15:48
TravTjust to find out if he's intending that for newton still15:48
TravTbut he's not, i think15:49
TravTso, we can move one15:49
sjmc7yeah, but midnight meetings are tough. i need to read up on what that middleware’s intended to do15:49
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sjmc7ok, that was all the topics i think15:50
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TravT#topic open discussion15:50
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sjmc7TravT: IRC thinks you’re still chairing, despite my attempts to set topics15:50
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TravT:-S15:51
TravTwell, let's close things off here15:51
TravTgoing once15:51
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david-lylesjmc7: broadcast plea raised15:51
TravTgoing twice15:51
rosmaitaone minute15:51
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/357287/15:52
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rosmaitait's WIP, but could use a quick lookover if the gate builds the docs15:52
rosmaita(it's the api-ref)15:52
TravTawesome, thanks rosmaita15:52
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rosmaitai expect brutal comments15:52
rosmaitaquick questions15:52
rosmaitawell, one15:52
rosmaitai have only documented 2 api calls15:53
rosmaitai think that's all we have: get plugins and do search?15:53
sjmc7there’s /facets too15:53
rosmaitaok, i need to add that15:54
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TravTrosmaita are you going to put in more examples from those postman call i sent you?15:54
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rosmaitaTravT: i could ... completely forgot about those15:55
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rosmaitawere those more examples of different searches?15:55
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TravTi know we can ref people to ES... but you could show example of bool query, etc.15:56
TravTi can pick out a few and send to you15:56
rosmaitathat's some feedback i need, mainly, how to handle that15:56
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rosmaitabecause they all come under /v1/search15:57
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rosmaitabut i could do sub-headings so that they're easy to find15:57
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TravTyeah, probably15:58
rosmaitaTravT: tell you what, i will add a few as "top level" calls and see what anne thinks of that15:58
TravTthere are more examples from doc/source/indexapi.rst15:58
rosmaitait's a little non-standard, but this *is* openstack after all15:59
TravTin tree15:59
rosmaitayes, i saw those15:59
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rosmaitai will grab one or two and update the patch15:59
TravTokay.15:59
TravTlooks like we are about out of time15:59
TravTso need to make room for the next party15:59
TravTthanks for getting that started15:59
TravTthank everybody16:00
TravTthanks!16:00
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TravT#endmeeting16:00
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Aug 18 16:00:22 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:00
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mhayden#startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible16:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 18 16:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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mhayden#topic Roll Call16:00
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evrardjpmhayden: fusion?16:03
mhayden(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:03
mhaydeni guess we've got enough folks here ;)16:03
evrardjpriolympics?16:03
mhayden#topic Docs call to action16:03
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* mhayden hands the mic to asettle16:03
asettleHeyyyy!16:03
asettleSo, firstly, just want to thank everyone at the midcycle who lent a hand to the docs effort :)16:04
michaelguginohi16:04
asettleIt was awesome how much we managed to do, and it's really starting to shape up.16:04
cjloadernice asettle!16:04
asettleOn that note however, Newton 3 is coming up, and subsequently the development freeze.16:04
asettleIn that time, I know you'll all be DESPERATE to help out again ;)16:04
nishpatwaIt was nice working with you asettle16:04
asettleTHanks everyone!16:04
asettleWe're looking for volunteers to help out with a full TECHNICAL review of the guide.16:04
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asettleI have that in caps, mostly because that's the emphasis we'll be looking at.16:04
nishpatwaYes sure we will help you16:05
asettleI need people to RUN through the installation guide and help me find where the bugs are and nits etc at actually following the guide.16:05
asettleMake sense?16:05
asettleThanks nishpatwa !16:05
mhaydenasettle: you requested that folks roll through a deploy using exactly what's in the docs -- right?16:05
evrardjpit makes sense16:05
asettlemhayden: thank you, exactly :)16:05
asettleWe need to ensure it's all up and ready to roll so we can present it at the summit with much hurrah16:05
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shasha_tavilMakes sense....will surely help.... :)16:05
cloudnullo/16:06
asettleI have an etherpad for names... one second16:06
nishpatwaInstall guide you mean by [draft] right ?16:06
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asettleYes, sure do. It will be moved over to be the 'install' guide, shortly :) but I will post all details here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam16:06
mhayden#action everyone to roll through the new Newton documentation for a technical review16:06
asettleIf you are interested in helping out - please put your names down here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam16:06
mhayden#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam16:06
asettleAnd I will be in contact with information on what to do, how to do, and where to do :)16:06
asettleThanks again everyone for your help at the midcycle! Was really impressed with everyone's efforts and seriously chuffed at how much help we received :)16:07
mhaydenwoot16:07
nishpatwaSure16:07
asettleAlso thanks to the person who is actually typing in my currently blank etherpad ;)16:07
asettleHahaha16:07
mhaydenasettle: i am glad we could provide so much chuffing16:07
asettleSuch chuff16:07
mhaydenthe role docs look quite nice16:08
cloudnull+116:08
mhaydenalso, as odyssey4me mentioned at the mid-cycle, getting good comments into the defaults/main.yml in each role is really important now16:08
mhaydensince it's prominently displayed on the docs homepage for the role ;)16:08
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asettle*thumbs up* that too16:08
rromansPROMINENTLY16:09
asettleWe will also be looking at volunteers to help with the role docs ;)16:09
asettleBUT16:09
asettleI'll call for htat on another week :P16:09
asettleI won't stress you all out with too much volunteering16:09
odyssey4me:)16:09
qwangdon't worry. we'd like to do it16:09
asettleThanks qwang :D loving the enthusiasm16:10
mhaydenokay, are we good on this topic, asettle ?16:10
asettleAwesome, any questions - email me :)16:10
asettleAll good mhayden !16:10
mhaydensweet, thanks for that16:10
nishpatwaSure asettle16:10
mhayden#topic Applying for the stable:follows-policy governance tag16:10
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mhaydenthis one is still on the agenda but i'm not sure if we covered it last week16:10
automagicallyWe didn’t meet last week16:10
palendaeSure we did :)16:11
automagicallyWe were too busy mid-cycling16:11
mhaydenwell i mean at the mid-cycle :P16:11
mhaydeni don't remember hearing it come up, but i missed a lot of thurs16:11
palendaeI didn't hear it either16:11
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odyssey4meyeah, we kinda forgot about it16:11
odyssey4meI think we can remove it from the agenda and revisit it another time.16:12
mhaydengot it, i'll remove it now16:12
odyssey4memaybe the summit, maybe before16:12
mhayden#topic Release Planning & Decisions16:12
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odyssey4mehmm, ok this is a week between releases16:13
odyssey4meis there anything critical for the next tags that needs attention?16:13
cloudnullnot that im aware of16:13
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palendaeThere are a couple things that RPC would like to see get into the next Mitaka tag, but they seem to be progressing16:14
palendaehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1614211 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/161421316:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614211 in openstack-ansible "Playbook Runs Fail in Multi-Domain Environments" [Undecided,New]16:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614213 in openstack-ansible "Add OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_ADMIN_ROLES to horizon_local_settings.py.j2 Template" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nolan Brubaker (nolan-brubaker)16:14
odyssey4methe N3 milestone is in two weeks... please try and get everything you want for Newton done before then: http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html16:14
palendaeI think one more patch is necessary to make the 1st one work16:14
odyssey4methanks palendae - we'll keep an eye on them, although there are enough reviewers in RPC who could do the same16:15
palendaeYeah16:15
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mhayden#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html16:16
mhaydenAug 29 is the newton-3 milestone and freeze16:16
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andymccrIf people have a chance to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351227/ I'd like to be changing the default swift ports to match the upstream change, and I don't want to do it before that patch merges.16:16
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mhaydenRelease is Oct 3! :) coming up soon16:16
mhaydenandymccr: slapped a star on it16:17
automagicallyDayyummm - we better get moving16:17
mhaydenanything else on releases for now?16:17
odyssey4menope, that's it for now - thanks16:18
logan-the only big thing I have before the feature freeze is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340175/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340174/ .. those are ready for reviews16:18
evrardjpstarring everything - I hope I'll have time to check at those stars!16:18
mhaydensame here16:18
mhaydenthanks logan-16:18
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logan-thanks!16:18
mhayden#topic Blueprint work16:19
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mhaydenso there are a bunch of BP's on the meeting agenda -- can we roll through them really quick and clean them up if needed?16:19
mhaydenfirst up -- Ubuntu 16.04 support... obviously this one is ongoing for the next little while16:19
automagicallymhayden: ++16:19
michaelguginoI'm going to try to get the watcher role done before the freeze16:19
odyssey4meyeah, they're there to keep track of them and for optional discussion16:19
automagicallymichaelgugino: ++16:19
mhaydenwe already covered asettle and the Docs overhaul, so that should stay16:19
mhaydenhow about "Ansible 2.1 support"?16:19
mhaydendidn't we get those 2.1 patches in for roles last week?16:19
asettlemhayden: thanks :)16:20
evrardjpmhayden: just started16:20
automagicallyyeap, but gating issues16:20
evrardjpI have an etherpad for that16:20
cjloaderwhy not make it use any version mhayden?16:20
evrardjpI should point that out because it wasn't updated16:20
odyssey4meyeah, regarding the xenial support, the project-config patch is in to switch every role except zaqar to voting... and to switch the integrated repo to non-voting16:20
mhaydenyeah, i'm wrestling with security role shenanigans :)16:20
mhaydenevrardjp: have a link for the pad?16:20
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evrardjphttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-2.1-gate-fixing16:20
evrardjpjust found it16:20
odyssey4meit passed for the first time earlier, so I think we're good to go and ready for more battle testing16:20
evrardjpthat's just for 2.1 gate work -- we'll probably have to dig deeper for full 2.1 work16:21
automagically#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-2.1-gate-fixing16:21
evrardjpthanks automagically16:21
evrardjp:D16:21
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mhaydenokay, updated the agenda with the pad link16:21
michaelguginothe nova tempest testing should be fixed upstream in nova, so hopefully less rechecks on roles that depend on tempest test server basic ops tests.16:21
mhaydennext is "Liberty to Mitaka upgrades"16:21
mhaydenare we still in active dev there?16:21
odyssey4memhayden yep, that's outstanding :/16:21
mhaydenokay got it16:21
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mhaydenMitaka to Newton upgrades? that one is in dev as well16:22
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odyssey4meand by that I don't mean that it's great16:22
mhaydenany etherpads or topics for that one that i can add?16:22
odyssey4meyeah M->N needs to start after N316:22
mhaydenokay, marked that one16:23
mhaydennext is the Xen virt driver -- antonym ?16:23
mhaydenlast i saw it was still underway, but i didn't know if antonym needs help with dev/testing16:23
mhaydeni'll mark that one as stalled pending antonym's feedback16:24
odyssey4memichaelgugino have you run any os_nova tests for lxc since it was marked experimental?16:24
odyssey4meI'd like to progress that test, but need feedback about whether it's working16:24
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odyssey4meie I'd like to move it to non-voting asap16:25
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mhaydennext is the PowerVM Virt Driver16:25
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mhaydenadreznec / thorst_: how are we on this one?16:25
michaelguginono, I haven't.  I just issued a check experimental on someone's patch16:25
adreznecmhayden: Things are progressing smoothly for PowerVM as a compute node16:25
adreznecI have it running in the lab today, though https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346863/ needs to merge before it will work upstream16:25
mhaydenawesome -- i'll keep it on the list as-is16:26
adreznecWere starting to look at Power support for testing now16:26
mhaydenautomagically / michaelgugino: OVS/DVR support BP ?16:26
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mhaydenit has "active development" listed16:26
automagicallymhayden: Believe we can consider that DONE16:26
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mhaydenbut it seems like y'all are g2g16:26
automagicallyWell, to be fair, we need docs in os_neutron around how to configure it16:26
automagicallyI’ll get on that16:26
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mhaydengood stuff16:27
mhaydennext is "Neutron Midonet Support"16:27
mhaydenbut vdo isn't here16:27
mhaydenanyone have insight on that one?16:27
michaelguginohaven't seen or heard anything on that one since the start of the cycle16:28
mhaydengot it16:28
mhaydenlast one is Proj Calico support16:28
mhaydenlogan-: any input there? shows as dormant for now16:28
evrardjpthere are patches that logan- just asked here above16:28
evrardjp:p16:28
logan-reviews are up and its passing tempest for me locally16:28
logan-i believe most if not all of the prereq patches have merged so thanks for the reviews on those everyone16:29
mhaydenperfect16:29
mhaydenthanks for helping me work through that list everyone!16:29
mhayden#topic Open floor16:29
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odyssey4meI think we can ditch Midonet off the agenda16:30
automagicallyAs of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357294/ the os_rally role has functional testing in its gate16:30
mhaydenif anyone has a spare moment, i could use a hand on https://review.openstack.org/354768 (just needs +2+W)16:30
odyssey4meautomagically w00t - just in time for xenial to go voting, eh :)16:31
mhaydenodyssey4me: i'll remove midonet for now16:31
automagicallyIn investigating functional gating of os_ceilometer using Tempest, I found that Rally has far better testing support. Thoughts/opinions on doing os_ceilometer gating with Rally?16:31
logan-oh one note, this would be helpful to have in the next mitaka tag: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355154/16:31
cloudnullalso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356864/ could use a review16:31
cloudnull^ needs to likely be backported to mitaka16:31
* mhayden hugs andymccr16:31
stevellecloudnull: I haven't looked at the rally coverage for ceilo16:32
stevelleerr sorry automagically^16:32
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asettlemhayden: que?16:32
asettleHahhaha16:32
logan-hope everyone had a good midcycle. I couldn't make it because we did L->M on the prod cloud last week. I'm happy to say it went fairly smoothly so thanks to everyone who has worked on the upgrade plays and docs.16:33
adreznecSo while work on PowerVM is progressing as a compute node, we've hit a bit of a snag with Power AIO. There's a galera change that's missing from the version with mariadb 10.0 related to page sizes that's preventing the version bundled with 10.0 from working on Power today16:33
automagicallystevelle https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/ceilometer16:33
evrardjpcloudnull: not a direct backport then -- we don't have the multi os stuff in mitaka, except for a few roles where that slept in16:33
adreznecWe thought this would be resolved with the release of 10.0 support for ppc64el Xenial in the mariadb mirrors, but it's still broken there16:33
cloudnullevrardjp:  no it'll be hand backport16:34
evrardjpadreznec: that's bad news16:34
adreznecWe're pushing a bug forward to get this fixed in the package, but we're not sure how long it will take to get resolved16:34
adreznecWe've build a version of the package with the fix in the lab that works, but we're looking for guidance on how to proceed16:34
michaelguginoI wanted to move forward with mariadb 10.1 support, but xtradb is the hangup, I believe16:35
prometheanfirenot sure if any of this stuff would help, but it's out there http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/osl/repos/yum/openpower/centos-7/ppc64le/openstack-mitaka/16:35
adreznecWe could either try and move to 10.1 (late in the cycle) or find a way to publish a "fixed" galera package for 10.0 ppc64el16:35
adreznecand point to that for the interim16:35
prometheanfiredoesn't have maria/xtradb16:35
odyssey4meadreznec :(16:35
stevelleautomagically: I'm not so happy with those ceilo scenarios either because they appear to be api only. am I missing something?16:35
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michaelguginoI think it will be worth looking at that next cycle, since support for trusty is being dropped by most projects for Ocata16:35
evrardjpadreznec: you're thinking of building a ppa ad-interim?16:36
adreznecodyssey4me: Yeah, this particularly impacts us for CI, since we'll be using AIO there16:36
thorst_so the other thing the power AIO / mariadb 10.0 thing hits is our CI, but I think our plan is to just use that internal build for the time being.16:36
adreznecevrardjp: That's one option16:36
automagicallystevelle: Fair enough. I’ll catch up with post-meeting to chat about it further16:36
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adreznecKind of looking for feedback on that end16:36
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odyssey4memichaelgugino support for trusty is being dropped by all projects for newton16:36
michaelguginowhat?16:36
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odyssey4methere may be a few exceptions, but all gate jobs are now running xenial for master16:36
odyssey4methere may be a few exceptions, but all gate jobs are now running xenial *only* for master16:37
odyssey4metrusty is being used *only* for stable branches16:37
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odyssey4meso when newton releases, it'll only have been tested on xenial - and ubuntu is only doing newton on xenial16:37
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michaelguginothat puts us in a peculiar position16:38
stevelle^16:38
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adreznecIndeed...16:38
rromansfor varying definitions of peculiar16:38
michaelguginoadreznec: AIO's don't use clustering for mariadb, so perhaps you can just install normal mariadb packages for that purpose on power16:38
odyssey4memichaelgugino yes, that's why we discussed not going through to Ocata with trusty... our dependent packages won't be on trusty, so we'll be stuck16:38
odyssey4meso we'll do trusty & xenial for newton, and drop trusty for ocata16:39
michaelguginoright, Ocata on Xenial makes sense, newton is a little quick IMO.  I'm glad we'll have support for both.  Hopefully projects don't backport breaking changes of some sort.16:39
adreznecmichaelgugino: Yeah, though differing from upstream there definitely isn't ideal16:39
odyssey4meadreznec thorst_ it would seem you have no choice for CI other than to use the custom packages until the bug is fixed upstream16:39
cloudnullmichaelgugino: i thnk we should be ok supporting both trusty and xenial for newton.16:40
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cloudnulleven if a project backports a breaking system change we'll make it go. :)16:40
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odyssey4memichaelgugino the configurations at risk for newton on trusty for OSA will be those that use OVS because we'll be grabbing that from UCA... and UCA for trusty will not be updated with the same versions as the stuff for Newton16:41
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thorst_odyssey4me: One thing I think we need to do is clear up the wording in the nova docs around this...I can take that todo.  I *think* it says it supports an all in power...which I think I jumped too far ahead on last week16:41
adreznecodyssey4me: If we build the package and create a PPA/repo for it, could we add an architecture-specific flag in the galera server role to use that package for ppc64el until we move to 10.1 next cycle?16:41
odyssey4meyeah, so I don't think it's a *huge* risk... but it is a factor to bear in mind16:41
thorst_so I'll correct that16:41
odyssey4meadreznec thorst_ that's a good idea (both of them)16:42
odyssey4meadreznec thorst_ are there *any* ppc64el mariadb repositories anywhere?16:42
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adreznecodyssey4me: The default repositories have ppc64el support in them16:43
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adreznece.g. http://nyc2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.0/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mariadb-10.0/16:43
evrardjpthe important would be to add16:43
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evrardjp#TODO (adreznec): remove the ppa when <link> is fixed upstream16:43
evrardjp:D16:43
adreznecWe've just hit that issue with one package from the mariadb mirrors16:43
odyssey4meadreznec ok, why not just set the default for power to usousl (the primary source I think), then for your CI just mirror that?16:44
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odyssey4meadreznec yep, osuosl has them: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mariadb/repo/10.0/ubuntu16:46
adreznecYeah, all the mirrors do16:46
odyssey4mewe can't use that mirror for CI because it has rate limiting16:46
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adreznechttps://mirror.rackspace.com/mariadb/repo/10.0/ubuntu has them as well16:46
odyssey4mebut we could happily switch to using a decent mirror as the default that has everything you need16:46
adreznecThe issue is really that we need galera-3 25.3.16, and 10.0 is currently using 25.3.1516:47
odyssey4meah16:47
adreznecWhereas 10.1 using 25.3.1616:47
automagicallymhayden: One for the next WHOA - https://medium.com/@michaelgugino/deploying-nova-lxd-hypervisors-with-openstack-ansible-39525157879d#.2db4rxhvj16:48
automagicallyNice work michaelgugino16:48
odyssey4meok, then it's a waiting game16:48
adreznecWhich contains https://github.com/MariaDB/galera/commit/0e815d9f12af74e3e94bcb39a913d26bdfd946b816:48
adreznecYeah16:48
odyssey4meso go for the ppa strategy for now - submit a known issue release note for it16:48
adreznecOk, will do16:48
evrardjpI think we can temporarily accept a ppa16:48
mhaydenautomagically: nice!16:48
evrardjpodyssey4me: was faster16:49
mhaydenautomagically: i'll prob get the next whoa out tomorrow16:49
odyssey4meonce the fix is released we can add tasks to remove the ppa and switch to the normal mirror16:49
adreznecShould be for ppc64el only16:49
evrardjponce again!16:49
adreznecSo that would reduce the scope of impact for now16:49
michaelguginothanks automagically.  We're supposed to be launching some kind of tech blog here at work, which that article may or may not eventually be included in.  But in the mean time, there's something on the web for those interested.16:49
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cloudnullmichaelgugino automagically: nice!16:49
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odyssey4meawesome michaelgugino :)16:50
evrardjpnice indeed16:50
cloudnullits on twitter16:50
odyssey4meadreznec of course with power support, I'm kinda itching to try out an ARM build and use them as computes for the LXD hypervisor :)16:50
evrardjpa new bedtime reading16:50
prometheanfireodyssey4me: I have access to arm64 servers :D16:50
adreznecodyssey4me: All kinds of new opportunities :)16:50
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prometheanfirearmv816:51
palendaeRasPi3 computes ;)16:51
evrardjptoo bad there isn't small easy to afford power servers, right?16:51
prometheanfirenah16:51
prometheanfireevrardjp: I asked about that, 2.5k is entry16:51
adreznecevrardjp: We're working on it... but not yet16:51
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evrardjp:D16:51
adreznecDefinitely a gap16:52
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mhaydenon that note, if people have things that should go in the WHOA, feel free to send those my way16:52
odyssey4meadreznec a few questions in https://review.openstack.org/346863 before I +216:52
michaelguginowhat is the whoa?16:52
evrardjpanyway it's cool to see all this love for nova16:52
palendaemichaelgugino, What's Happening in OpenStack-Ansible16:52
adreznecodyssey4me: Thanks, I'll take a look16:52
odyssey4meshut the front door... michaelgugino hasn't seen WHOA?16:52
prometheanfireanyway, the odroid-c2 is good for testing armv8 on16:52
palendaeLittle newsletter thingy mhayden does16:52
evrardjpWHOA michaelgugino didn't read WHOA.16:53
odyssey4mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkFyGNjaQ8k16:53
* michaelgugino doesn't faithfully read the mailing lists16:53
mhaydenmichaelgugino: https://major.io/tag/whoa/16:53
palendaeKeanu Reeves is the WHOA mascot right?16:53
michaelguginosweet.16:53
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mhaydenpalendae: only on the internal reports :P16:53
asettleOh my word mhayden16:53
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mhaydenmichaelgugino: long story short, i generally do a weekly WHOA internal to the company, then a monthly one to the world16:54
automagicallyThe worldly WHOA16:54
michaelguginovery cool.  I was thinking that would be a good type of publication, and you're already doing it.16:54
odyssey4memhayden will take contributions - ping him any time you have something newsworthy16:55
andymccrthat mhayden, he's always one step ahead of the crowd16:55
* odyssey4me sees mhayden starting a news agency16:55
automagicallymhayden: The WHOA needs moar GIFz16:55
odyssey4meoh dear16:55
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evrardjpautomagically: don't start him on that16:55
odyssey4meactually, I haven't had a gif fix from mhayden all week16:56
cloudnullautomagically: +1 GIF for all the posts!16:56
evrardjpwe'll have loldogs and cheezeburgers everywhere16:56
mhaydenyes yes -- please send over anything noteworthy that the world should know about OSA16:56
evrardjpsorry16:56
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mhaydeni'll be sure to include it16:56
evrardjpeveryWHOAere16:56
mhaydenokay, down to 3 minutes left16:56
mhaydenready to close this up?16:56
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andymccrseems so :P16:57
odyssey4meoh dear, yes I think so16:57
asettleGod evrardjp16:57
odyssey4methanks mhayden16:57
mhaydenWHEEEEEEEEEEEEE16:57
andymccrthanks all!16:57
asettleToo much time here with us16:57
mhaydenthanks everyone16:57
mhayden#endmeeting16:57
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Aug 18 16:57:21 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:57
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-18-16.00.html16:57
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-18-16.00.txt16:57
cloudnullcheers all16:57
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-18-16.00.log.html16:57
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cathy_#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 18 17:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining'17:00
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cathy_hi everyone17:01
mohankumarhi cathy_17:01
georgewanghi17:01
bcafarelhi17:01
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LouisFhi17:02
cathy_mohankumar: is vikram going to join?17:03
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yamahatahello17:03
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mohankumarcathy_  , no17:03
cathy_ok, let's start17:03
fsunavalhi all17:03
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cathy_#topic networking-sfc release17:04
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LouisFfsunaval: hi17:04
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cathy_Based on request from the community, we will have a new release.17:04
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mohankumarcathy_ ,  mitaka or newton branch ?17:06
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pcarverhi17:07
cathy_Currently our code development is based on master branch. So any change on master branch  will impact our code. Since we are going to have mikata based release. Anyone has any suggestion how we can base our code on stable/mitaka branch for preparing for the release?17:07
cathy_fsunaval: pcarver hi17:07
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cathy_mohankumar: mitaka, then after Neutron pulled the Newton stable branch, we will release Newton17:08
mohankumarokay cathy_17:08
cathy_yamahata: pcarver mohankumar georgewang Any suggestion ?17:09
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cathy_hi csun17:10
pcarvercathy_: sorry, not my area of expertise17:10
georgewangI think we should decide what change should be in mitaka release17:10
csunHi cahty_17:11
cathy_georgewang: yes. that is our second topic17:11
georgewangafter that we should make sure the code compatible with mitaka release17:11
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cathy_georgewang: is there an automatic way for enforcing that, such as through our gate testing?17:11
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cathy_georgewang: I am a little concerned whether our current networking-sfc code is a mixed code for Mitaka and Master17:12
cathy_yamahata: how did ODL repo do this?17:13
georgewangI think most code compatible with mitaka17:13
georgewangafter we decide the code to cut the release,17:13
georgewangwe should do manual tests to make sure it works in mitaka17:13
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cathy_hi s3wong17:14
s3wonghello17:14
s3wongcathy_: you are back!  :-)17:14
cathy_s3wong: yes:-)17:14
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VikramHi17:15
cathy_OK, we need to do manual tests combined with automatic tests to ensure that our code is 100% compatible with Mitaka.17:15
VikramSorry to be late17:15
cathy_hi Vikram17:15
cathy_Vikram: s3wong we are discussing how to ensure our code base is compatible with stable/mitaka code base since we are going to have a mitaka release.17:16
VikramOk17:16
s3wongcathy_: sure17:16
cathy_Vikram: s3wong currently our code is based on master branch, any automatic way we can ensure our code to be compatible with stable/mitaka branch?17:17
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VikramAFAIK, Separte Jerkin jobs run for master and stable branches17:18
VikramFirst we need to freeze the code for mitaka17:19
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VikramI mean we got to create a stable Mitaka branch17:19
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VikramFor this Ihar need to help us out17:20
cathy_Vikram: do you mean that we create a networking-sfc branch from the stable/mitaka branch?17:20
georgewangI think that branch should be created by neutron release team, I mean gerrit branch17:21
cathy_Vikram: My understanding is that the branch creation happens after we request for release, right?17:21
Vikramcathy_, in the existing networking-sfc repo we need to create a separate branch called stable/mitaka17:21
LouisFcathy_: currently the git has a liberty branch https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/tree/stable/liberty17:22
cathy_Vikram: I understand that part. But my understanding is that this branch will be created after we request a release, right?17:22
VikramYes17:22
VikramFor that we got to provide the master branch last commit we want to release17:23
cathy_After we request the release, then the stable/mitaka branch will be created and networking-sfc package will be released.17:23
georgewangyes17:23
cathy_But what I want is to make sure before we request the release, our code is compatible with OpenStack stable/Mitaka17:24
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georgewangthat should be done by manual tests17:25
VikramWhat I suggest is we can test locally and make sure our code is compatible with mitaka17:25
VikramCode base17:25
cathy_Vikram: OK, so we still need to go through the manual test17:25
VikramYup17:25
cathy_Vikram: yes, that is what we have been doing.17:26
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VikramOk17:26
VikramDo we have changes specific to Newton now?17:26
georgewangnot yet17:27
cathy_OK, let's discuss the freeze commit, then we do one more round of local tests, and then let's not approve any more patches to be merged before the stable/mikata branch is pulled.17:27
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VikramAggreed17:27
mohankumarcathy_ +117:27
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VikramI suggest we can tag our patch sets accordingly17:28
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VikramSo that reviewer knows what is required for mitaka17:28
VikramTill the stable branch is not pulled17:29
cathy_#agreed after the freeze commit for mitaka release, the team will do one more round of end-to-end tests for all test cases, and then let's not approve any more patches to be merged before we request the release and the stable/mikata branch is pulled.17:29
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cathy_Now let's go to the next topic: the freeze commit as well as other commits we would like to be included in the mitaka release17:30
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cathy_#topic the freeze patch for networking-sfc mitaka release17:31
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cathy_Here is the link to our current patches under review17:31
cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/networking-sfc+status:new17:31
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cathy_I think we need to get the following patches included in the mitaka release17:32
cathy_let me know if you have different thought17:32
cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355324/17:33
Vikramcathy_, I would suggest to mark the patch as WIP if we don't want them to land in mitaka17:33
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cathy_Vikram: +117:34
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cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308274/17:34
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mohankumarit  may be correct link : https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/networking-sfc+status:open17:35
LouisFcathy_: that one needs ovs support17:35
VikramYes I was also looking for that17:36
cathy_how about this? I will mark all patches that do not need to be in as WIP off line. If anyone has different opinions, we can exchange via emails. I will send out an email to everyone working on networking-sfc listing all the patches that need to be in.17:36
LouisF+117:37
Vikram+10017:37
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cathy_And let's review them as soon as possible.17:37
s3wong+117:37
VikramI have one question17:37
cathy_Vikram: sure17:37
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VikramI can find so many new features coming up..17:38
VikramDo we have spec or design for those?17:38
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VikramNew CLI's are getting proposed as well17:38
cathy_#action Cathy will mark all patches that do not need to be in the mitaka release as WIP offline. If anyone has different opinions, we can exchange via emails.17:39
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cathy_#action Cathy will send out an email to everyone working on networking-sfc listing all the patches that need to be in and everyone review them as soon as possible.17:39
LouisFVikram: which items do you feel need a spec?17:39
LouisFVikram: or that a spec is missing?17:40
VikramLouisF: I can find new few new CLI's coming the way17:40
cathy_Vikram: I think we can update the spec to include them17:41
VikramAnd not able to digest the usecase or real scenario where they will be useful17:41
cathy_the API/CLI spec17:41
VikramMore, recently I found we have added port chain group parameter for ppg cmd17:41
VikramWhich sounds little odd17:42
cathy_Vikram: I think you mean port pair group param?17:42
VikramWhat is my concern here is whether we have already discussed about the new cli parameter or Api17:42
VikramYes17:42
cathy_You are talking about weight command17:43
cathy_sorry I take it back17:43
VikramLet me check17:43
VikramI cannot find now.. Sorry17:44
VikramI remember reviewing in the morning17:44
cathy_Let's discuss this via email when we have time to find them.17:44
VikramNo problem cathy_17:44
VikramOk17:44
LouisFVikram: are you refering to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355324/17:45
VikramThanks LouisF17:45
VikramI just felt the proposed cmd arg is not good17:46
cathy_Vikram: maybe you can suggest a better arg?17:47
VikramI will try cathy_17:47
cathy_I think we need this addition since some attributes apply to all functional like SFs in a group.17:47
VikramMay be I might be wrong but that was my feeling17:48
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LouisFyou mean port-pair-group-parameters in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355324/4/networking_sfc/cli/port_pair_group.py17:48
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cathy_Anyway I think some good explanation/clarification in the commit message will help17:48
VikramLOUISF, exactly17:49
LouisFVikram: can you suggest an alternative syntax17:49
VikramTo me port-pair-group looks redundant as we are already inside the cmd17:49
VikramI cannot think now.17:50
LouisFVikram: i think it was done for consistency with the PC and PP parameter names17:50
VikramWill try..17:50
VikramOhhh17:50
VikramI didn't looked at other cmds17:50
VikramI will recheck17:51
LouisFVikram: ok thanks17:51
cathy_Vikram: ok, we can finalize the cmd via the patch review.17:51
VikramLouisF: Thanks for the explanation17:51
cathy_we do not have much time left. Any other topic you have in mind17:51
VikramOk cathy_17:51
LouisFs3wong: how is the tacker/sfc driver work?17:52
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cathy_#topic tacker/sfc driver status17:52
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cathy_s3wong: how is the work going with Tacker on VNF Manager functionality?17:53
s3wongLouisF: not much progress --- given that tacker python client will release first, sridhar_ram asked me to first focus on reviewing trozet's VNFFG patchset17:53
s3wongcathy_, LouisF: so we will finalize the APIs / TOSCA template format of initial phase 1 release of VNFFG on Tacker17:54
cathy_s3wong: what functions can the VNF Manager manages now? Are there generic APIs for people to automatically create and configure a type of SF via the VNF Manager?17:55
s3wongcathy_, LouisF: in terms of code change, the one I know of is to make networking_sfc_driver into a mixIn with OpenStack driver, as the driver needs to be aware of which VIM it is running17:55
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s3wongcathy_: lifecycle management of VNF is the most basic functionality of Tacker17:56
LouisFs3wong: what is the patch number?17:56
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s3wongLouisF: same two:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347563/  and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347568/17:57
LouisFs3wong: thanks17:57
s3wongLouisF: will try to update sometime this week. May be able to do some integration test with trozet's VNFFG plugin, don't know yet17:57
cathy_s3wong: so you mean there are already generic APIs for people to automatically create and configure a type of SF via the VNF Manager17:58
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s3wongcathy_: yes --- type of service is the basic VNFM schema17:58
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LouisFs3wong: i will look for updates and review17:59
cathy_s3wong: could you send me a link to that?17:59
s3wongLouisF: thanks --- you are on the reviewers list :-)17:59
LouisFs3wong: yes17:59
trozetcathy_: what are you looking for? this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344522/17:59
mohankumarbye18:00
cathy_trozet: VNF manager18:00
cathy_Ok, I will contact you later via email.18:00
cathy_We are running out of time.18:00
cathy_bye for now18:00
LouisFtrozet: thx18:00
s3wongcathy_: one example can be found here:   https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/samples/tosca-templates/vnfd/tosca-config-openwrt-with-firewall.yaml18:00
fsunaval_bye18:00
LouisFbye18:01
bcafarelbye18:01
cathy_#endmeeting18:01
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cathy_s3wong: thanks!18:01
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