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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 08:01:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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nbloomHi08:01
ifat_afekHi everyone :-)08:01
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eyalbhi08:03
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alexey_weylHello There :)08:03
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ifat_afek#topic Status and Updates08:05
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ifat_afekNewton release schedule: Newton3 tagging should be done today, so this is the last day we can push new features. After that, only bug fixes are allowed.08:05
ifat_afekRC1 in two weeks (September 15), and the final release is scheduled for October 6.08:06
ifat_afekMy updates: I finished auto-evacuation of vms from a failed host.08:06
ifat_afekWho wants to update?08:06
alexey_weylI will update08:06
alexey_weylI have almost finished on working on another tempest that will be added to the gate08:07
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alexey_weylthis tempest will check each one of the datasources, and see if there were any changes in the other openstack projects in order to be updated with all of the changes08:08
alexey_weylHopefully it will be added until the end of the day08:08
alexey_weylthat's it08:08
nofarschyou mean that if one has changes all of them will be updated or just this one?08:09
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alexey_weylit means that it one of the projects will change part of  it's api or result we will know it this way, and then update our code08:10
ifat_afekalexey_weyl: cool08:10
nofarschalexey_weyl: thanks08:10
nbloomI will update08:11
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nbloomabout the datasources snapshot bug I updated last time, the solution I came up with is to create a ReScheduler class that would schedule each of the datasource's snapshots every <interval> seconds while if the snapshot process has failed the the next snapshot for the failing datasource would be rescheduled at an earlier time08:13
nbloomThis would result in a more responsive vitrage and would not halt other succeeding datasources from snapshoting08:15
nbloomThe fix should be merged soon08:15
ifat_afeknbloom: great, thanks08:15
nofarschHeat update: we have finished working on adding the heat datasource and notifications08:15
nofarschwe've also added tests08:16
nofarschthat's it08:16
ifat_afekcool, so we have heat :-)08:17
ifat_afekany other updates?08:17
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danoffekhi.08:19
danoffekSorry about the late entrance.08:19
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danoffekThere was a request to add fields to the Volume when requesting data via topology show / other. Added these, tested. Will push later.08:20
ifat_afekdanoffek: cool, thanks08:21
ifat_afekanyone else?08:21
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ifat_afek#topic Open Discussion08:24
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ifat_afekanything you would like to talk about?08:24
ifat_afekok, goodbye then08:25
eyalbbye08:25
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alexey_weylbye bye08:25
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ifat_afek#endmeeting08:26
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acabot#startmeeting watcher08:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 08:59:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
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sballe_hi09:00
acabothello09:00
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dtardivelbonjour09:00
acabotagenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#08.2F31.2F201609:00
acabotvincentfrancoise & jed56 are on vacation09:01
acabotare gzhai & jinquan here ?09:01
jinquanacabot: i'm on09:01
acabothi jinquan09:01
jinquanhi09:01
tkaczynskihi09:02
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acabot#topic Announcements09:02
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digao/09:02
acabot#info Only one talk accepted for Barcelona summit09:02
acabot#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16023/watcher-the-infrastructure-optimization-service-for-openstack-plans-for-the-o-release-and-beyond09:02
acabotTaylor does not contribute any more to the project, I suppose that jwcroppe will speak09:03
acabotjinquan : does Charlotte wants to talk in Barcelona ?09:03
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sballe_I would like to add somebody from b-com to the talk09:04
hanronghi09:04
acabotsorry hanrong09:04
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jinquanacabot: i guess so09:04
acabothanrong : do you want to be part of this talk ?09:04
hanrongyes09:04
sballe_acabot: I talked to her early august and she wanted to talk.09:05
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acabotok in this case we will wait for jwcroppe to confirm before letting someone from bcom join the talk09:05
acabot#action jwcroppe confirm that he will be speaking at https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16023/watcher-the-infrastructure-optimization-service-for-openstack-plans-for-the-o-release-and-beyond09:06
jinquanone topic only have 3 talkers?09:06
sballe_yes09:06
acabotjinquan : yes the foundation ask for max 3 speakers09:06
jinquanok, we can wait the info from jwcroppe first09:07
jinquani think09:07
acabotwe will also have design sessions so b<>com folks will also be able to present watcher (but it wont be on youtube ;-))09:07
hanrongI have discussed with Susanne before.09:07
alexchadinhi09:07
acabotok great lets wait for jwcroppe next week09:08
acabot#info Newton-3 release has been submitted to the release team09:08
sballe_ok.09:08
hanrongok09:08
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362930/09:08
acabotas you may know, we are in a release week09:08
acabotfor the first time we will release watcher-dashboard to be part of Newton officialy09:09
sballe_+109:09
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acabotso I'm still fixing a couple of gate issues for it but it should be announced tomorrow09:09
acabot#info hvprash is now core contributor on Watcher specs09:09
sballe_Great news09:10
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acabotthx for your votes on the ML09:10
dtardivelThx everybody for this release n3 :)09:10
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acabot#info we now have 4 core on watcher-specs : sballe_ jwcroppe hvprash & acabot09:10
acabotYes thanks a lot for all the work done during this cycle, I was really impressed while writing release notes of the amount of work we have done !09:11
alexchadinGreat work!09:11
jinquancool09:11
acabot14 new features !09:12
sballe_cool!09:12
acabot#info Watcher has got Rally support09:12
alexchadin:)09:12
alexchadinIt was long story09:12
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Alexander+Chadin+%253Ca.chadin%2540servionica.ru%253E%22+project:openstack/rally+status:merged09:12
acabotalexchadin : yes and thx for your support, I think its a great addition !09:13
alexchadinNow we can test our strategies09:13
sballe_this is great news!09:13
alexchadinThank you!09:13
acabotalexchadin : yes I'd like to test it on intel infra09:13
sballe_This should imporve our overall testing09:13
acabotany other announcement ?09:14
dtardivelalexchadin: do we have a dedicated section in Watcher documentation about Rally ?09:14
acabotsballe_ : no news about the mascot ;-)09:14
sballe_lol09:14
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alexchadindtardivel: take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333371/3/rally-jobs/README.rst09:14
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acabotalexchadin : we probably need to add a link from Watcher doc right ?09:15
dtardivelalexchadin: yes I think so.09:15
alexchadinacabot: where to?09:15
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acabotalexchadin : we can find it in the git repo but we need to add a section somewhere in the generated doc09:17
alexchadinAh, yes09:17
acabothttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/watcher/09:17
acabotI suppose it would be in the developer guide09:17
acabotalexchadin : can you create an entry for it ,09:18
acabot?09:18
alexchadinhm, I think so09:18
alexchadinI will need your help regarding docs09:18
acabot#action alexchadin add a doc section for Rally in Watcher documentation09:18
alexchadinin that case*09:18
dtardivelalexchadin: I will help you09:18
acabot#topic Review Action Items09:19
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alexchadindtardivel: cool!09:19
acabotWatcher specs09:19
acabotNewton approved specs have been moved to implemented folder09:19
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362108/09:19
acabot#info all specs must now be submitted in Ocata folder09:20
acabotGraph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center has been merged09:20
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/09:20
alexchadinacabot: When can we start to merge our features again?09:20
alexchadinAfter newton release?09:20
acabotalexchadin : you mean the code ?09:21
alexchadinyeap09:21
alexchadinI saw it should be 1-3 october09:21
acabotalexchadin : as soon as the release team will have created the newton branch (should occur next week)09:21
alexchadinok, good news:)09:21
acabotResize instance base on workload should be retargeted to Ocata09:22
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/09:22
digayes, this is good09:22
jinquanyeah, i have a mistake when push the patchset09:22
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jinquanand maybe resize have too much risk indeed , so i need modify specs about the comment from sballe_, and Sameer Adhikari,09:22
jinquansballe_: Sameer Adhikari:thank you for your review!09:22
acabotjinquan : yes please add a PS09:22
jinquanacabot: ok09:23
acabot#action jinquan add a PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/09:23
acabotLimit concurrent actions invoked by Watcher needs reviews09:23
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:23
acabot#action jwcroppe add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:24
acabot#action acabot hvprash review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/09:24
acabotautomatic triggering audit needs reviews09:24
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/09:24
acabotdiga : sorry I didnt have time to review your spec09:24
digaacabot: Np09:25
acabotdiga : can you answer sballe_ comments ?09:25
digaacabot: I am submitting again with changes suggeste09:25
digayes09:25
acabot#action diga add a PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/09:25
acabotWatcher09:26
digaI will submit it by tomorrow09:26
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acabotScoring module has been merged and doc is in review09:26
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362827/09:26
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acabotwho wants to review scoring module doc ?09:26
sballe_I am in the middle of reviewing it09:26
jinquani can review the doc09:26
acabot#action acabot sballe_ jinquan review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362827/09:27
tkaczynskithanks guys09:27
alexchadinacabot: I will09:27
acabotand thx tkaczynski for the code !09:27
tkaczynskithanks for reviews :)09:27
acabot#action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362827/09:27
acabotCluster model objects wrapper has been merged09:28
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/cluster-model-objects-wrapper09:28
acabotthx vincentfrancoise for this huge contribution09:28
sballe_+109:28
acabotdtardivel is still testing it09:28
tkaczynski+109:28
digaacabot: I have another one BP I have submitted  I guess, but I guess this BP is right fit for watcher with some addition - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement09:28
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digathis tells about cloud placement on licence cost aware VM placement09:29
acabotdiga : I didnt' see it, I will take a look09:29
digaok09:29
acabot#action acabot look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement09:29
acabotthx09:29
acabotNewton release notes have been merged09:29
sballe_me 209:30
digawc!09:30
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362013/09:30
acabotthx for your fast reviews ;-)09:30
acabotGraph cluster model implementation needs reviews09:30
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/09:30
acabotthere is still a pep8 issue09:30
acabotsballe_ : can you check with Greg if he needs help ?09:31
sballe_will do09:31
acabot#action sballe_ check if Greg needs help to solve pep8 issue on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/09:31
acabotwho wants to review the graph model ?09:31
hanrong+109:32
acabot#action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/09:32
sballe_please add me to that09:32
acabot#action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/09:32
acabotAdd rally-jobs folder to get rally support needs tests ?09:32
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333371/09:32
acabotalexchadin : what can we do with this PS ?09:33
alexchadinI think there shouldn't be any tests09:33
alexchadinOther projects don't have them for rally-jobs folder09:33
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acabotby test I meant test Rally (not unit tests) ;-)09:34
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acabotso we can just merge it and run Rally09:34
alexchadinWe have one experimental gate test09:34
alexchadinwait a sec09:35
acabotdid you update the gate config ?09:35
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alexchadinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/333860/09:35
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acabotok so we can already test it in the gate !09:36
acabotthats great09:36
alexchadinyeap, we can09:37
acabot#info gate-rally-dsvm-watcher-watcher is available as experimental09:37
acabot#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion09:37
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acabot#info Current milestone is Newton-rc1 due September 12th09:37
acabot#link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-rc109:38
acabotonly one BP (scalability tests) & bug fixes09:38
acabotso during this month, please do not hesitate to submit bugs09:38
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acabotI will try to update the bug list priorities everyday09:38
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sballe_thanks09:39
jinquan+109:39
acabotthe idea is to have an rc-final version fully tested09:39
acabotwe can also improve unit test coverage09:39
acabotand translations09:39
acabot#topic Open discussions09:40
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dtardivelacabot: can we talk about Intel platform ?09:40
acabotI'd like to discuss scalability tests on intel infra, sballe_ can you give us a quick status ?09:40
sballe_I talked to the Intel team yesterday09:41
acabotis gzhai here ?09:41
sballe_gzhai and I met with the Intel team yesterday and we retold them our requirements09:41
sballe_They will install all the services we asked for including Monasca and ceiloasca09:42
sballe_and Watcher per our description09:42
sballe_We expect to get the system by the end of this week or beginnign of next09:42
sballe_gzhai is workign on the PBK scripts09:42
acabotok regarding PKB, we will have to define scenarios using YAML files09:43
sballe_also week 1 we get 15 systems because the ceilomter team is using the rest09:43
acabotin these files, we need to specify server names and image names09:43
sballe_Week 2 and beyond we get all 30 systems. of course we use 3 for control planes09:43
sballe_acabot: ok09:44
dtardivelsballe_: from our side, we are working on a new benchmark for PKB, to meet our requirements09:44
acabot#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-test-environment-specifications09:44
acabotso week 1, we will have : 10 x 1U x 2 racks Intel Xeon Haswell-EP E5-2699 2.3hz 18 cores ?09:44
dtardivelWe need to sync with gzhai about our PKB benchmark tests09:45
sballe_acabot: yes 12 systems to start with given 3 are being used for control plane09:45
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sballe_dtardivel: yes please do that09:46
sballe_gzhai is at the F2F some of this week but I was expecting him at the iRC today09:46
sballe_not sure what happened09:47
acabotdtardivel will share an example of the yaml file we use in PKB to define the targeted infra09:47
dtardivelsballe_: our new benchmark will be able de deploy specific instances on dedicated nodes.09:47
dtardivelsballe_: Configuration will be something like this09:47
sballe_what do you mean by dedicated nodes09:48
dtardivelhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ScnaS6oy/09:48
acabotsballe_ : if we want to test Watcher, we need to define a state of the infra before running watcher09:48
acabotso we will share this kind of yaml file with gzhai to be able to deploy VMs and workloads on specific hosts09:49
sballe_I agree. What are you guys thinking in term of defining the state of the infra?09:49
sballe_make sense09:49
acabotI mean defining which VM is running on which host09:49
acabotto be able to "unbalance" the cluster09:50
sballe_ok09:50
acabotand then run Watcher09:50
dtardivelsballe_: On each instance, we will be able to control, independently, CPU workload (by using stress linux command)09:50
acabotthe yaml file is pretty straightforward09:50
sballe_agreed. it is early so I have still not had my coffee09:50
acabotwe just need to know the compute node name (replacing nodeX in yaml) and the name of the image to deploy09:51
sballe_ok09:51
acabotthen gzhai will be able to run the bench in PKB09:51
sballe_I will follow up with gzhai, please ping him too09:51
dtardivelsballe_: +109:51
acabotwhat we need to define also is how we will get the results !09:51
sballe_agreed09:52
acabotWatcher logs, Monasca DB export, cluster state after running the strategy...i dont know what he will be able to provide09:52
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acabotmaybe we could schedule a conf call (or IRC meeting) tomorrow ?09:53
sballe_let add this to the etherpad09:53
dtardivelsballe_: can we ask to gzhai to propose to us a solution to collect this information for each PKB test ?09:53
sballe_dtardivel: yes09:54
dtardivelsballe_: and from our side, we focus on new PKB benchmark and new image ?09:54
sballe_ok09:54
acabotok thx09:54
acabotany other topic to discuss ?09:54
sballe_dtardivel: add all the peices you need to the tehrpad and we'll figure out how to get it09:55
dtardivelsballe_: +109:55
sballe_https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-test-environment-specifications09:55
acabotthanks everyone09:56
acabothave a good day09:56
sballe_thanks09:56
sballe_bye09:57
acabotbye09:57
sballe_you too09:57
acabot#endmeeting09:57
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 13:02:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'13:02
johnthetubaguyo/13:02
cdento/13:02
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alex_xusorry, I always remember we use openstack-meeting-alt...13:02
alex_xuI guess sdague busy on something13:03
alex_xu#topic API Priorities13:03
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alex_xulet us go through last few patches13:03
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356963/13:03
alex_xuthe one is about emit warn msg for user_id based rule13:04
alex_xuI didn' some improvement and test13:04
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* edleafe wanders in with cup of coffee in hand13:04
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alex_xuit only checked the rules which loaded from policy.json13:05
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sdagueo/13:05
sdaguealex_xu: so I didn't see examples of that working on devstack13:05
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sdaguedo you have log lines pointing to it working?13:05
alex_xuwhen user have full custom rules, it spend 0.37 second with execute 1000 times13:05
alex_xusdague: I fixed it, let me find the line13:05
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sdaguealex_xu: ok, cool, if you fine examples of it running and put it into the review, I'll look later on it13:06
sdaguestarred it to come back13:07
woodster_o/13:07
alex_xusdague: ok13:07
alex_xusdague: there is the log http://logs.openstack.org/43/360943/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ubuntu-xenial/fdd2590/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2016-08-29_15_15_52_84413:07
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: are you ok with the performance?13:08
johnthetubaguyits not free, but it seems minimal, I am just trying to remember how many requests/sec we have going through an API node, and what difference that could make13:08
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sdague0.37 seconds for 1000 iterations means that we're really adding only 1ms right?13:09
sdagueon a normal request13:09
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea, if user have empty policy.json, it only use 0.009 second13:09
sdaguealex_xu: per request?13:09
alex_xusdague: no, 1000 request13:10
johnthetubaguythat sounds better13:10
johnthetubaguyhow did you get 0.37?13:10
sdagueright, so honestly, if the number is < 1ms per request it's a pointless discussion13:10
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: for 100013:10
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sdagueif all the rules are custom13:10
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: I only execute the check code in the script with a loop execute 1000 times13:11
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johnthetubaguyI was meaning what was in policy.json13:11
johnthetubaguybut anyways, seems like its tidy, so lets call that fine and move on13:11
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sdaguecool13:11
johnthetubaguys/tidy/tiny/13:11
sdagueyeh13:11
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: just load the defualt rule13:12
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: cool, thanks13:12
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alex_xuthe last one13:12
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/32294413:12
alex_xupolicy discover CLI13:13
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alex_xujust waiting for more feedback13:13
edleafealex_xu: added to my queue13:13
sdagueok, so this might be one of those things where it's low risk, and we move it forward with only light feedback13:13
alex_xuedleafe: thanks13:14
alex_xusdague: yea13:14
sdaguerelated to policy, when I brought up the policy in code at the ops summit, people were excited13:14
johnthetubaguysdague: cool that echos the feedback from manchester13:14
sdaguebut they also said we really were going to need a policy reference document13:14
alex_xusdague: cool :)13:14
johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, +1, with descriptions, etc13:14
sdaguebecause the policy.json file would end up blank13:14
sdagueand they wouldn't know which things to change13:15
johnthetubaguythe cmd that outputs the merged yaml was the initial work around to help with that a little bit13:15
alex_xuyes, but if the rule name can easy to map to url, that will better13:15
sdagueso, either post freeze, or early next cycle, we should make sure that policy reference document is a high priority13:15
sdaguealex_xu: yeh, we could also fix it with adding descriptions, which honestly might be better13:16
sdaguethat's the way ops think about things, not always like urls13:16
alex_xuok, at least that is the thing we can do now13:16
johnthetubaguyI am tempted by both, honestly13:16
sdaguethis is forward looking, but relevant for O goals13:16
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johnthetubaguywell, we can do more url related things, once we have alias, so upgrading is not impossible, description first is my take, but yeah, this is for O13:17
sdagueyep13:17
sdagueok, moving on?13:17
johnthetubaguyI was hoping the cmd to output the merged should do for now, does that seem OK?13:17
alex_xuyea13:17
* edleafe reads 'O goals' as 'zero goals'13:17
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, probably13:17
sdagueedleafe: you need a better font :)13:17
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edleafesdague: :)13:18
alex_xuthat is all we have before freeze13:18
johnthetubaguythere is another one that tells you about duplicates to help with upgrade too, but yeah, we should move on13:18
alex_xuanything I missed?13:18
sdague\o/13:18
alex_xu\o/13:18
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh13:18
alex_xu#topic open13:19
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sdaguehonestly, my brain is over on the placement-api this week, so unless there is anything else, probably worth getting back over there13:19
sdagueoh, this should be a quick approve, api-ref related - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362170/13:19
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sdagueonce dev calms down from the freeze, I'll schedule a final api-ref sprint, probably mid sept13:19
alex_xuthere is bug mentioned by Matt, Kevin_Zheng happy to help on this https://review.openstack.org/359134, but this can be done after freeze13:19
alex_xusdague: cool13:20
Kevin_Zhengyes13:20
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alex_xuKevin_Zheng: thanks for helping13:21
Kevin_Zhengnp13:21
alex_xuso...if no more question, let us end the meeting, people are busy this week.13:21
alex_xu3...13:21
alex_xu2..13:21
alex_xu1.13:21
alex_xuok, thanks all!13:21
edleafethanks, alex_xu!13:21
alex_xu#endmeeting13:22
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therve#startmeeting heat15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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therve#topic Roll call15:00
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therveHola!15:00
zanebo/15:00
cwolferho/15:00
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ramishrahi15:00
spzalao/15:01
duvarenkovhi15:01
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Dragoo/15:01
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therveQiming, skraynev ?15:01
skraynevo/15:01
skraynevtherve: thx15:02
syjuliano/15:02
therve#topic Adding items to agenda15:02
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therve#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-08-31_1500_UTC.2915:02
therve#topic n3 status15:03
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therve#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-newton-reviews15:03
therve#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/newton-315:03
therveSo15:04
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therveThanks for the one that cleaned up the bp :)15:05
therveI think I'll bump the cinder quota one15:05
therveThe condition bp is mostly in bug fixing mode15:05
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ramishraconditions one last patch left to land.15:05
therveCool15:06
therveWe have a good number of bugs in progress, but I think they can get into rc1?15:06
therveMaybe not the oslo.db work, though I would have like it to be there15:07
skraynevtherve: I don't mind ;)15:07
therveAnyone missing with a feature that may need a FFE?15:08
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Qimingo/15:08
ramishrashardy was getting nervous about convergence in tripleo, he does not seem to be around. Should we communicate the plan by a ML thread?15:08
ricolintherve: can you share the link of oslo db work?15:08
thervericolin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147972315:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479723 in heat "Replace deprecated EngineFacade from oslo_db" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Baker (steve-stevebaker)15:09
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ricolintherve: Oh! this one! thx15:09
therveramishra, Yeah that seems like a good idea, I'll do that15:09
zanebramishra: so do tripleo have convergence enabled in the undercloud?15:10
therve#action therve to send email for convergence status15:10
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zanebbecause if they do I think they're nuts15:10
thervezaneb, No :)15:10
zanebok, cool15:10
zanebso why is he nervous then?15:10
ricolinlol15:10
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therveBecause he still cares about heat :)15:11
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therveThe use case not covered by his test is pretty important15:11
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zanebin the overcloud you mean?15:11
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ramishrathey have a patch to disable it, they have not done any testing with it yet and it would be the default from this release15:11
therveIn general15:11
ramishrafor heat15:11
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zanebtherve: Rabi said he was specifically "nervous about convergence in tripleo" which is why I'm asking15:12
thervezaneb, Ah. Yeah I think Rabi's wrong then :)15:12
zanebok15:12
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zanebeverybody should be nervous about convergence (or any other massive architecture switchover)15:13
ramishraWhat I meant is, he would like the default in heat to be changed, if we can't fix it before this release.15:13
therveYeah but this is not tripleo related15:13
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zanebramishra: specifically this issue right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329460/15:14
thervezaneb, Yep15:14
ramishrayep, in_progresss delete15:14
zanebok. I discussed that with therve yesterday. I believe that we are in good shape to get that fixed before RC15:14
zanebI agree with shardy that it's almost a show-stopping bug if it were not15:15
therveRight15:15
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therveI think if by rc1 it's not running, we should switch back to legacy by default15:15
therve(ie 2 weeks from now)15:16
zanebI think that's fair15:16
zanebjust changed the bug priority High -> Critical15:16
zanebI also think we'll have no problem making it15:16
therveSweet15:17
skraynevWow. So we will not switch back :) it's really good.15:17
therveSo to conclude the status, I'll cut n3 some time tomorrow morning, push a couple of bugs out of rc1, most into it15:17
therveAnd we'll see if someone as a FFE, maybe cinder quota one15:18
therve#topic Stable releases for Mitaka and Liberty15:18
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syjulianwhat is ffe?15:18
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thervesyjulian, Feature Freeze Exception15:18
therveDo I need to tag some stable releases?15:19
therveWho put that in? :)15:19
zanebso, I discovered the other day that we have never done a stable release for Mitaka15:19
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therveYeah I guess it doesn't happen automatically15:19
zanebit used to be that there was some sort of schedule where the stable-maint team cut stable releases at scheduled milestones15:19
zanebapparently that isn't a thing any more15:19
zanebso I think we should do one15:20
skraynevzaneb: what I need to do to help with it ? :)15:20
skraynevif I can help.15:20
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zanebit's kinda scary because there are usually a bunch of bugs found right after the release that get wrapped up into an early x.y.115:20
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therveI guess I'll tag whatever is on top of both branches15:21
zanebskraynev: so I believe it's just a matter of submitting a review to tag a release15:21
zanebwanted to bring it up here in case anybody has stuff that urgently needs to be included15:21
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therve#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/mitaka15:22
therveNothing major in here that I can see, except invalid stuff15:22
therve#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/liberty15:23
therveSome old stuff15:23
zaneblooks like Liberty stuff could use some reviews15:24
skraynevtherve: I see , that for mitaka all patches have -1 for tests or for review15:24
skraynevhowever for liberty we have two candidates for merge15:24
skraynevmay be we may merge them right now?15:24
zaneblet's get on that today and then therve can tag all 3 branches tomorrow?15:24
therve+115:25
skraynevoh. sorry one of them with with two -115:25
skraynevok, then only one15:25
therve#action therve to release liberty and mitaka15:25
zanebcool, and finally: we need a better system for scheduling these15:25
therveYeah, agreed. I was hoping someone would complain when they need it15:25
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skraynevzaneb: do you mean some external tool with reminders or ?15:26
therveOtherwise, cutting them around the master releases sounds like a good reminder?15:26
skraynevzaneb: or some fix schedule ?15:26
zanebskraynev: yes, some external forcing function15:26
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skraynevtherve: do you mean milestones ?15:27
therveskraynev, Yep15:27
ramishrawould it be good to do a release/tagging of stable branches(if required) with milestone tagging?15:27
skraynevsounds workable.15:27
skraynevit's not so often and not so rare15:27
zanebtherve: +1 - milestone 1 would be a good time to tag the first stable release from the prev branch15:27
therveAt least we can think about them at that point, we don't have to release if nothing happened15:27
ramishraoh I repeated what therve said;)15:28
zanebok, I'll add that to the PTL guide wiki page15:28
therveAh thanks, I was wondering where to put that info :)15:28
shardy+1 we've ended up doing pretty much that for TripleO15:28
shardyotherwise the stable releases get forgotten15:29
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therveCool, moving on15:29
therve#topic Brain storming for design summit topics15:29
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therveSo yeah we should start that15:29
skraynevtherve: I added this one as a reminder :)15:30
therve#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-heat-sessions15:30
skraynevWe had a request for spaces and need to figure out what we want to discuss15:30
therveThat was the past one15:30
therveSo https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat-sessions15:30
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syjulianso do we just write on the etherpad if we have topics?15:31
thervesyjulian, Please!15:32
syjuliandmiid :)15:32
shardytherve: re the convergence questions I missed earlier (sorry), we disabled convergence for TripleO because we tested and it didn't work for us15:32
skraynevtherve: do we need add our usual about convergence  ? :)15:32
therveskraynev, Most likely :)15:32
shardyin particular the deleting in-progress nested stacks thing was a totall show-stopper15:32
shardyI'll re-test post newton-3 and let you know how it goes ;)15:32
therveshardy, Yep. I don't feel that supporting tripleo by the release is critical, but that particular bug is15:33
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shardytherve: agreed15:33
therveshardy, I'll send an email, but the decision is to revert back if it's not fixed by rc115:33
zanebshardy: but it will be! :)15:33
shardy+115:33
therveskraynev, Anything in particular for the brainstorm? We don't have to go too far for now15:34
therveBut it's nice to start thinking about them15:34
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shardytherve, zaneb: let me know when you think it's fixed and I'll see if I can break it ;)15:34
skraynevtherve: unfortunately I have not any ideas right now :(15:34
therveThat's okay, kicking the ball is good15:35
therve#topic Design summit spaces decision15:35
zanebshardy: ack. when your functional test patch passes we'll call it fixed :)15:35
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skraynevtherve: if we have not really much, then we may just request to have 3 fishbowls and 6 work sessions15:35
shardyI'd like to see a session on performance improvements, to see where we are with the improvements planned, and what more can be done15:35
therveskraynev, Sounds good. I feel we could have done that already last time15:36
shardyperformance and memory usage15:36
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therveAnd as it seems we'll have less space, let's be good citizen15:36
therveshardy, +1, it's always a good idea to see what we've done15:36
ricolinperformance+115:36
skraynevtherve: if you talk about real content, that we probably have 1 more month. However if we talk about spaces we need to give answer today/tomorrow to ttx15:38
skraynevAFAIK today is deadline for submitting number of sessions15:38
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therveskraynev, Yeah I know. I don't think anyone has the real content, so I think you suggestion is fine.15:38
skraynevalso ttx mentioned, that they think to give some delay for decision, but I have not any info about it right now15:39
zanebmy only question is if we have enough stuff for 3 fishbowls in what is a short cycle15:39
zanebi.e. should we exchange one of those fishbowls for another work session15:39
zaneb(we can always find *something* to talk about in a work session)15:39
therveI didn't feel that the difference was really critical TBH15:40
zanebok15:40
ramishrawe may ask for the sessions on Wed/Thu, so that we can have the contributer meetup on Friday before noon?15:40
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skraynevtherve: probably it make sense for host.15:40
therveWe really need to try to not conflict with tripleo this time, though15:40
shardy+115:40
skraynevbecause some other projects can want to have fishbowl15:40
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shardyI'll try to remember to request scheduliing anti-affinity this time ;)15:40
therve:)15:41
shardywe've not requested many sessions, so hopefully should be OK15:41
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therveCool, moving on15:41
therve#topic Support convergence phase 2 for deprecated resources15:41
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zanebtherve: btw I will not be there on Friday at all, so the more sessions we can get into Wed/Thu the better for me15:41
skraynevtherve: will you sent info to ttx?15:41
therveskraynev, Yep15:42
skraynevok. thank you :)15:42
thervezaneb, OK, I think it's scheduled after the request, I'll see15:42
shardyIs anyone interested in discussing better support for data transformations?15:42
zanebthanks skraynev for taking the initiative on that btw15:42
skraynevzaneb: np ;)15:43
shardywe've got a recurring pattern in tripleo where we spin up a nested stack just to do unspeakable things with nested intrinsic functions in the output block15:43
shardyI'd be pretty happy to discuss cleaner ways to do those things in the future15:43
therveshardy, Wouldn't the Value resource be a good solution for that?15:43
zanebshardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349136/15:43
skraynevshardy: honestly will be really cool to have a session for some user's, TripleO requests15:44
skraynevand discuss, may be we missed some interesting features ;)15:44
duvarenkovSo, do we need to implement support of convergence related features for deprecated resources?15:44
skraynevinteresting for users15:44
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shardytherve: ah, I'd forgotten about that, thanks!15:44
shardyYes that may help in some cases for sure15:44
therveOh it got merged while I was away, sweet15:44
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thervecwolferh, If you write doc for heat, bonus points :)15:45
cwolferhtherve, sure, where?15:45
therveSo Peter is not here, I suspect he put the topic above15:45
skraynevtherve: wait a sec15:45
zanebtherve: I think he has his hands full with https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:rpd-chunked ;)15:46
skraynevtherve: The question is about some simple decision15:46
skraynevshould we add support of Convergence Phase2 for deprecated reources ?15:46
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zanebskraynev: no15:46
therveskraynev, I think in general no15:46
therveIn this particular case, I think the patch was written before the resource was deprecated15:46
skraynevduvarenkov: ^^^15:46
therveSo it sucks a bit to throw that away15:47
therve#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313513/15:47
therveFWIW15:47
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therveThat said, it's very low priority, which may mean no15:47
skraynevtherve: ok, then we may just abandon this patch.15:47
zanebit's essentially never going to get tested, so just say no15:48
therveOkay :)15:48
duvarenkovGood15:48
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skraynevso that's all for this topic ;)15:48
therve#topic Open discussions15:48
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cwolferhshardy, if you also think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359605 would be useful to tripleo, maybe worth lobbying for. maybe to late for ffe though15:49
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shardycwolferh: thanks, will check it out15:50
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zanebcwolferh: tripleo is about to ship too, so it probably won't hurt to let it wait for Ocata15:50
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shardyyeah, tbh I've pretty much got my hands full battling to get tripleo FFE's in shape atm ;)15:51
* cwolferh nods15:51
shardybut it looks interesting, will check it out, thanks! :)15:51
cwolferhyep yep :-)15:51
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ramishratherve: the devstack plugin is fixed (athough with a workaround) and the heat jobs changed to use the plugin. Though we're stuck with removing the devstack tree code, as there are other service plugins that need heat by default15:52
ramishraand there is no way to load a plugin from another plugin15:52
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therveramishra, Yeah I think I mentioned that in the spec15:52
therveWe don't want to break everyone, we should deprecate stuff15:52
ramishraso we'll probably have to look at it next release15:52
therveIt's not like it's super expensive to leave it there15:52
therveThough it's be nice if other projects using heat used the in tree one15:53
shardycwolferh: FWIW I think there's going to be a bunch of fun corner cases with that15:53
shardycwolferh: because many intrinsic functions return None, then later some value15:53
shardye.g during validation15:53
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ramishrabut I've a patch for the upgrade scripts to use plugin code we should land it I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36156615:54
cwolferhshardy, ah, good to know. maybe not as clear cut as i thought15:54
therveshardy, We should fix that :/15:54
shardycwolferh: I'll try to create a reproducer and comment on the review when I get time15:54
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cwolferhshardy, thanks!15:55
shardytherve: well, in many cases we can't, because the value doesn't exist until runtime15:55
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shardybut I agree it can probably be handled better15:55
therveshardy, Right, we should return NO_VALUE15:55
therveWe talked about it in Austin actually, and had somewhat a plan, but nobody handled it15:55
shardytherve: ack, provided type validation is disabled during validation I guess that would work15:56
shardyand that would help with the problem of nested validation not knowing if a value was provided from the parent stack15:56
zanebshardy: so the idea is to return a Placeholder object that knows its eventual type15:56
shardyzaneb: cool, well that would definitely be very useful15:57
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sdakehey guys ;)15:57
zanebhere's trouble15:57
shardyhey sdake15:57
sdakezaneb - we have meeting for kolla in 4 minutes - no trouble :)15:58
zanebwhew ;)15:58
therveAlright, thanks all!15:59
therve#endmeeting15:59
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sdake#startmeeting kolla16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 16:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'16:00
sdake#topic rollcall16:01
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duonghqo/16:01
egonzalez90o/16:01
coolsvapo/16:01
Jeffrey4l_0/16:01
akwasniehi all :)16:01
berendto/16:01
hritoo/16:01
sdakethere are epics in the fire...16:01
rhalliseyhi16:01
mandrehello16:01
inc0o/16:01
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sdake#chair rhallisey16:02
openstackCurrent chairs: rhallisey sdake16:02
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sdake#topic announcements16:03
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sdakeryan will be handling the meeting at the :25 minute mark or so16:03
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sdakeI have an unmovable conflict16:03
vhosakoto/ sorry I'm late16:03
sdake1. our deadline is today for milestone #316:03
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sdake2. our deadline for rc1 is september 15th16:03
zhubingbinghello16:03
sdake3. at rc1, the tree branches, so no more features after the 15th16:04
sdakeI'd like to use a big chunk of this meeting time to sort out what goes in rc1 and what goes to occata16:04
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sdakebeecaue i have hard time tracking all the patches in my head ;)16:04
britthouser0/16:04
sdake4. OSIC TESTING IS COMPLETED16:05
britthouserw00t! =)16:05
berendtgreat16:05
pbourkeo/16:05
sdakewe were able to run 12 sscenarios only on ubuntu16:05
sdakewhich is better then zero ;)16:05
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vhosakotsdake: was any scenario run on centos?16:05
sdakebig heroic effort to deploy centos, which we got done16:05
sdakebut ran out of time to run the scenario unfourtnately :(16:05
vhosakotsdake: yes, 12 scenarios is great!16:05
vhosakotcool16:05
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sdakeif we get osic time again, we will be more prepared16:05
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sdakeanything from the community?16:05
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britthouseryeah I think having the tests proofed on a smaller scale ahead of time would have speeded things up.  But hindsite is 20/2016:07
sdake#topic Vote on etherpad for fishbowl or design session for ODS16:07
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sdakebritthouser no doubt16:07
sdake#link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-O-summit-planning16:07
sdake#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-O-summit-planning16:07
sdakeplease open that up and vote today16:07
sdakeI am submitting requirements at 5pm pst16:07
sdakeif you dont care for a sesson don't vote16:07
sdakeif you do care for a sesson put a F or D next to it16:08
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sdakeour schedule is flexible all the way up to summit16:08
sdakeatleast has been in the pat16:08
sdakebut slots is not16:08
sdakeare not16:08
sdakeany Q/A?16:08
duonghqsdake: do the previous votes count?16:08
sdakeduonghq yes please dont vote twice16:08
duonghqroger16:08
sdakeuse a unique coolor if your voting as a new voter16:09
sdakeand put yur name in the contirubtors list please16:09
sdakethe new ptl will be fine tuning the agenda after I pass the baton :)16:09
duonghqwhat does "sync with sean-k-mooney" mean in the bare metal?16:10
sdakei expect this to change abit16:10
sdakeduonghq no idea16:10
sdakei think abut what topics he woudl like to discuss there16:10
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duonghqfine16:10
sean-k-mooneywell if you figure it out let me know too :)16:10
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sdake#topic OSIC scale testing documentation creation16:10
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duonghqyou got many vote sean-k-mooney, actually16:11
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sdakewe need to create osic scale testing documentation16:11
britthouserI think it was "get a debrief from sean"16:11
sdakewe have all the data captured in a review16:11
inc0sdake, mind putting all our results and data on google drive or somewhere?16:11
sdakenot sure who if anyone can take thiss on16:11
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inc0so we can take a longer look at it?16:11
sdakeinc0 i can put the tarball in google drive16:11
sdakeafter meting16:11
inc0please do16:11
sdakeJeffrey4l_ has /etc tarball16:12
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sdakeJeffrey4l_ can you email me that tarball pls16:12
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Jeffrey4l_sdake, np16:12
inc0I'll handle the whitepaper or whatever, will discuss with OSIC folks what's best way16:12
sdakeinc0 i've got bck to back meetings this mornign - so wont get to it until this afternoon or tonight sometime16:12
inc0np, plenty of work with N-3 anyway16:12
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sdakeso sounds like inc0 is up for it16:13
sdakeI am also up or it16:13
sdakeafter the 15th16:13
inc0yeah, we're not that time constrained16:13
inc0on that front16:13
inc0but would be nice to have it for summit16:13
inc0for our own sake16:13
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sean-k-mooneyinc0: i think there i a tar of all the results in the review also16:14
sdakeagree - want it done for summit16:14
sdakesean-k-mooney there is but not of /root16:14
sdakesean-k-mooney while we got ya- if you can fill in subbullets for the baremetal seession at sumit that would be helpful16:14
sdakeok now for boring boring time ahead ;)16:14
sdake#topic newton-116:14
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sdakethe idea here is to triage blueprint16:14
sdakes16:14
sdakethey either go in occata 116:15
sdakeor newton-rc116:15
sdakeor if they are finished, they should be marked as ssuch16:15
sdake#link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-316:15
sdakecan folks open that page up pls16:15
sdakewe are just triaging the blueprints at this point16:16
sdakeif your patches will merge by 5pm tody to make the blueprint done - pleae mark it as needs review16:16
sdakeif yu dont hae permissions to do so please yell out ;)16:16
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sdakei'll put a clock of 4 minutes for folks to go through the blueprints and make appropriate changes16:17
sdake9:20 - we will revisit list16:17
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duonghqsdake: I set my bp to o-116:18
duonghqI think it's ok16:19
sean-k-mooneysdake the kolla host and bifrost blueprints have not been targeted to a release. should i set them to newton-316:19
sdakesean-k-mooney please do16:19
sdakesean-k-mooney newton series, newton-3 milestone16:19
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berendtWhat about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/performance-monitoring ?16:20
berendtShould this be added to newton?16:20
berendtimplemntation should be good progress16:21
duonghqI think it's missing something to gather data from cluster16:22
duonghqsdake: right?16:22
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zhubingbingThis BP I have modified the test passed.16:22
sdakeberendt please16:22
berendtsdake I cannot set the progress16:23
sdakeberendt i'll do so16:23
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sdakeanything in started state that hsould go to good progress state - please do so now16:24
sdakeclock of 3 minutes16:24
sdake9:2716:24
sdakerather :27 ;)16:24
sdakezhubingbing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/aodh-role16:25
sdakezhubingbing what state should that be in?16:25
berendthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/aodh-role should be implemented16:25
zhubingbingsure16:25
zhubingbingyes16:25
zhubingbingshould be implemented16:26
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sdakeboucning this to o1; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/build-logging-per-container16:27
vhosakotthere is a patch set for that..16:28
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sdakenow we go through all the good progress blueprints and see which ones we want to keep for newton16:29
berendtI think we finished https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/third-party-plugin-support today?16:29
sdakewe need to eliminate many blueprints from newton if possible16:29
sdakeinc0 around?16:29
sdakeberendt ya I think that is more or less done16:29
inc0one more nit I want to add16:29
sdakewe can use trivialfix for problems found on that one16:29
inc0reno notes;)16:29
berendtsdake I think somebody should recheck the list in the bp, it is not up to date16:29
inc0after that I'll close bp16:29
inc0berendt, that's on me16:30
inc0I'll do full house cleaning today16:30
sdakeberendt sometimes the automated link to launchpad d oesn't work16:30
berendtsdake no we have a manual list at the end of the bp16:30
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sdakeok - top to bottom one at a time16:30
sdakerhallisey : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/api-interface-bind-address-override16:30
sdakewill that make rc1, or shudl we bounce to o1?16:31
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rhalliseyo1 since that changes with a repo split16:31
sdakerhallisey please make the change ;)16:31
sdakepretty sure this will make n1 - any detractors? :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/keystone-fernet-token16:31
sdakeok rhallisey gotta jet16:32
sdakerhallisey pleae drive this process from here16:32
sdakei'll bein irc16:32
sdakeand provide guidance if needed16:32
sdakejust go through em one at a time16:32
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/sanity-check-container16:32
berendtinc0 I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357746/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358193/ are related to the 3rd party bp16:32
sdakeand igure out if they need to go to o1, stay in newton (they will finish merging by 15th)16:32
inc0ahh the footer controversy16:33
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kuryr-docker-plugin16:33
rhalliseythis looks close16:33
berendtsdake so it is fine to add https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/performance-monitoring to n-3?16:33
rhalliseyberendt, how many patches are left to merge there?16:34
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inc0I think we should bump16:34
Jeffrey4l_rhallisey, that one is not implemented.16:34
rhalliseylooks like some need a rebase16:34
inc0there is too much stuff to be done16:34
berendtrhallisey I have not count them, but they are in a good progress16:35
sdakeperf will land16:35
sdakein rc116:35
inc0sdake, can we merge it by rc1?16:35
sdakei am hopeful16:35
inc0yeah, let's put hard deadline for 15th16:35
rhalliseyberendt, I reviewed some of those. I think they are close, but I can see some rebasing is needed16:35
inc0if it's not there then, it's O16:35
sdake15th is a hard deadline for all patches merging16:35
duonghqI'm sorry but anybody can make sure that all Kolla was migrated to ansible2?16:35
sdakeduonghq that has been done16:36
inc0duonghq, it has, otherwise it wouldn't work at all16:36
rhalliseyberendt, going to target rc216:36
rhalliseyrc1*16:36
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/vmtp-container16:36
inc0it's already bumped to rc116:36
rhalliseythis is also close16:36
duonghqsdake, inc0, it worked but still has many warning, or we can safely ignore those?16:36
rhalliseyrc1 perhaps16:36
inc0let's make it rc116:37
berendtrhallisey "series goal" should be acctepted for newton series16:37
rhalliseyyes16:37
inc0duonghq, we should make note of them and submit bugs, could you do this?16:37
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-trove16:37
inc0btw bugs aren't affected by deadlines we talk about now16:37
inc0only new features16:37
inc0any issue with ansible2 is a bug now16:37
duonghqinc0: okay16:38
duonghqunderstand16:38
Jeffrey4l_inc0, no. ansible2 works fine16:38
rhalliseyinc0, let's do that after we go through the bps16:38
inc0Jeffrey4l_, yeah, that's my impression too, but if duonghq see something wrong, bugs are way to go now16:38
rhalliseyansible-trove needs some reviews and rebases16:38
rhalliseybumping to 016:38
sdakeyes - please only do blueprint triage16:38
sdakei'll sort out the bug triage16:39
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/build-debian16:39
rhalliseythis looks done16:39
berendtrhallisey I do not think so16:39
rhalliseywhat's missing?16:39
rhalliseygate & docs16:39
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berendta gate job for debian for example16:40
inc0there are still containers not done16:40
Jeffrey4l_rhallisey, no one test this and no gate for debian.16:40
berendtand there are a lot of containers missing16:40
inc0kibana being one of them16:40
rhalliseyah true16:40
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rhalliseybumping to o16:40
inc0yeah, I think so16:40
Jeffrey4l_ok16:40
berendtand progress should be set to slow16:40
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/calico16:40
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inc0O for sure for calico16:40
rhalliseyya o16:41
berendtis somebody working on it?16:41
inc0unfortunately person who did that moved to different project16:41
inc0so atm nobody16:41
berendtlast comment in the request from june16:41
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/cleanup-playbooks16:41
inc0but I'd love to see it done anyway, so I might pick that one up next release:)16:41
rhalliseyno one is working on this16:41
rhalliseybumping..16:41
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/enable-networking-sfc-support16:42
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rhalliseyI think this is close16:42
rhalliseyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/346842/16:43
rhalliseyneeds some review16:43
Jeffrey4l_yep16:43
rhalliseythat could make n-316:43
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rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/barbican-ansible16:43
rhalliseybumping to o16:44
sdakebarbican will land16:44
sdakeits ready to merge16:44
rhalliseyuh16:44
berendtbarbican is good progress, n-316:44
rhalliseyok16:44
rhalliseyI think rc-116:44
rhalliseytbh16:44
inc0rhallisey, rc-116:44
inc0it's -verified now16:45
berendtyes makes sense16:45
inc0and all the gates red16:45
rhalliseyit's actively being worked on and it looks close16:45
rhalliseyya my concern is the gate16:45
rhalliseybut rc-1 it could make it16:45
inc0zhubingbing, will you make it before 15th?16:45
Jeffrey4l_found some merge conflict, it should be easy to solve.16:45
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/collectd-ceilometer-plugin16:46
inc0yeah, but gates are all red16:46
rhalliseythat seems done16:46
inc0no16:46
rhalliseywhat's missing?16:46
sean-k-mooneycollectd still needs the ansible role i belive16:46
berendtrhallisey the docker part only?16:46
Jeffrey4l_some failed merge file failed like <<< in the file.16:46
inc0deployment of collectd and ceilometer conf16:46
berendtyes i think ansible is missing16:46
rhalliseyerr16:46
sean-k-mooneyi will ping pritive but i belive he has something16:47
berendtbut should be realistic for rc116:47
inc0I'd bump it to O tbh16:47
rhalliseyhm16:47
rhalliseyk I though it was an addition to the logging16:47
inc0since we don't have reviews up for missing pieces16:47
rhalliseyya it does need ansible bits16:47
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rhalliseyrc-116:47
sean-k-mooneyrhallisey: its independent of the loggin but could be used with it16:47
inc0ok, let's make it rc-1 we can always bump it more16:48
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/multinode-gate16:48
rhalliseybumping this16:48
inc0O16:48
Jeffrey4l_O16:48
berendto16:48
inc0definetly16:48
rhalliseyI link you guys vote16:48
rhalliseylol16:48
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-gnocchi16:48
Jeffrey4l_r116:49
rhalliseyrc-1 agreed16:49
rhalliseybeing actively worked on16:49
egonzalez90yes, is nearly finished16:49
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rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/enable-congress-container16:50
berendtcool, i need gnocchi for cloudkitty16:50
rhalliseyneeds a rebase here16:50
inc0rc-116:50
rhalliseyrc-116:50
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rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/neutron-vpnaas-agent16:51
berendtrc-1 :)16:51
inc0Daviey, ?16:51
inc0rc-1 or O?16:51
rhalliseylooks wip16:51
inc0which one you want?16:51
berendtI will finisih the work on it this week16:51
rhalliseyberendt, ok16:51
rhalliseyrc-116:51
inc0kk so rc-116:51
inc0ahh, my bad, it was yours berendt ;)16:51
rhalliseyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/bifrost-support16:51
rhalliseylast one16:51
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inc0bifrosts are almos ready to merge if not merged:)16:52
Jeffrey4l_expect it is done in rc-116:52
rhalliseyok16:52
inc0so I'd keep it n316:52
rhalliseylooks super close16:52
rhalliseymay be n316:52
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rhalliseyok that looks much better16:52
sean-k-mooneyits currently targeting n3 in launchpad16:52
rhalliseygood job team16:52
inc0gerrit is acting up16:53
inc0I think only one review left from bifrost16:53
sdakebiforst merging todya16:53
rhallisey#topic (jeffrey4l) should we merge this? support first found config file win16:53
sdakedont move it16:53
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rhallisey#link https://review.openstack.org/30692816:53
Jeffrey4l_need a undo?...16:53
rhalliseythat's already merged16:53
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rhallisey#undo16:53
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rhallisey..16:53
rhallisey#topic Open Discussion16:54
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sean-k-mooneyinc0: there are two reviews left but yes almost all merged16:54
Jeffrey4l_ya. it is merged.16:54
rhalliseywe put kolla-kube in here16:54
rhalliseygot only 6 min16:54
inc0sean-k-mooney, one already is in gates16:54
inc0so about kolla-k8s16:54
inc0what needs doing to spawn a VM?16:54
rhalliseysbezverk_, has it working16:54
wirehead_yep!16:54
inc0w00t16:55
rhalliseyI'm re doing the docs atm16:55
rhalliseythey're almost done16:55
wirehead_sbezverk_ has successfully completed the challenge of doom.16:55
rhalliseythat way it's easlier to jump in16:55
wirehead_and is granted the right to dance on the graves of our enemies.16:55
rhallisey:)16:55
rhalliseyfor people looking for work16:55
rhalliseythere are lots of services that can be added using the same template as the rest of the pods16:56
rhalliseythose are great to pick up16:56
imcsk8rhallisey: i would like to help16:56
wirehead_I agree. :)16:56
rhalliseyif you're up for a python adventure the CLI could use some work too16:56
inc0I'll work on these HA issues we discussed16:56
rhalliseyinc0, ya those I'm also curoiuus about16:57
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rhalliseyimcsk8, awesome! I'll see if I can find a blueprint you can bite into16:57
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imcsk8rhallisey: thanks! i really dig kolla :)16:57
inc0don't dig too deep, there are corpses laying around16:57
rhalliseywoo :)16:58
rhalliseyinc0, you did too deep you realize we're surrounded by a container16:58
inc0thanks guys!16:58
DavieySorry, arrving late.. Clashing meeting!16:58
rhalliseythanks everyone16:58
inc0hey, it's my idea! docker run kolla-deploy;)16:58
Jeffrey4l_https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/161626816:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1616268 in kolla mitaka "Stale namespace removal causing "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" errors" [Critical,Confirmed]16:58
wirehead_Can we try to contain the puns? :P16:58
Jeffrey4l_this bug need eyey.16:58
Jeffrey4l_eye. it is very critical.16:59
rhalliseyJeffrey4l_, ah yea16:59
sdakemeeting time up guys16:59
sdakeoverlfow into #kolla :)16:59
rhalliseyinteresting16:59
Daviey#openstack-kolla16:59
sdakethanks for coming :)16:59
rhalliseysbezverk_, also saw that16:59
sdakethanks Daviey16:59
rhalliseyflowing over!16:59
rhallisey#endmeeting kolla16:59
Jeffrey4l_thanks all guys :)16:59
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dougwiganyone here for the lib meeting that has a topic?  boden is out, Henry and I have none.  so if I don't hear any topics in the next two minutes, consider the meeting canceled for this week.17:32
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RaginBajin#startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring19:01
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openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 19:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is RaginBajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring'19:01
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RaginBajino/19:01
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RaginBajin5 more minutes and I will be ending the meeting.19:06
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RaginBajin#endmeeting19:11
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 31 19:11:14 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:11
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-31-19.01.html19:11
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-31-19.01.txt19:11
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-31-19.01.log.html19:11
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