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| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak | 14:01 |
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| nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 14:01:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| nikhil | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| hemanthm|away | o/ | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
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| liwei | o/ | 14:01 |
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| tsymanczyk | o/ | 14:01 |
| abashmak | o/ | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | let's give a couple mins | 14:01 |
| croelandt | o/ | 14:02 |
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| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | Mostly setting the plans for next few weeks and discussing outstanding issues. | 14:03 |
| nikhil | Also, we need to come on the same page for the release work. | 14:03 |
| nikhil | #topic Release updates (nikhil) | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | newton-3 is today | 14:04 |
| nikhil | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:05 |
| nikhil | I've created a link for getting the patches that are waiting to go in for newton-3 | 14:05 |
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| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363930/ | 14:05 |
| nikhil | looks like there are a few still needing reviews | 14:05 |
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| nikhil | I will list those from my end and others are encouraged to point out here | 14:06 |
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| nikhil | #info *must* go in newton-3 reviews are below: | 14:06 |
| nikhil | #linl https://review.openstack.org/354809 | 14:06 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/354809 | 14:06 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229220/ | 14:06 |
| nikhil | Thanks to sigmavirus we've managed to merge that one | 14:07 |
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| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:07 |
| nikhil | missing release notes can come in before rc-final is out | 14:07 |
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| nikhil | #info nice to have reviews for n-3 | 14:08 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/324012 | 14:08 |
| nikhil | if that goes in, we *must* bump up the API version | 14:08 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/350809 | 14:08 |
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| nikhil | that's it from my side, anyone else? | 14:08 |
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| nikhil | I see 3-4 reviews related to config help text improvements | 14:09 |
| abashmak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354332/ | 14:09 |
| nikhil | what's the status and requirement for those? | 14:09 |
| abashmak | this was +2 already but needed rebase | 14:09 |
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| nikhil | ok then, I wil assume no others are being requested and we can ship out n-3 right after the above linked are merged. | 14:10 |
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| abashmak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363838/ | 14:11 |
| abashmak | needs workflow | 14:11 |
| abashmak | same for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363870/ | 14:12 |
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| nikhil | #info client and store stable/newton branches have been cut. Reviewers are free to merge any outstanding commits. Ocata releases don't start until R-0. | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | thanks abashmak , hoping that's it? | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | moving on | 14:13 |
| nikhil | #topic Import Refactor (nikhil) | 14:14 |
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| nikhil | as per our discussion from after the glance's weekly meeting | 14:14 |
| nikhil | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-glance/%23openstack-glance.2016-08-25.log.html#t2016-08-25T15:00:22 | 14:15 |
| nikhil | the plan is to work on a feature branch where reviewers are more comfortable to test this and move ahead fast | 14:15 |
| nikhil | also this will help us avoid any red herrings from outside the project and we can resolve conflicts once everything is ready | 14:15 |
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| nikhil | I will get that setup later today | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | FWIW, I couldn't attend last weeks meeting and I'd have appreciated this to be brought up to the mailing list. I actually think a feature branch is not the right approach here as it'll mess up the priority of this work review wise | 14:16 |
| nikhil | ha.. | 14:16 |
| nikhil | I was writing :) .. flaper87 had some concerns on this plan and I will try to resolve them | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I don't think it sends the right message and I'd really appreciate more eyes on the reviews than fewer, which is what we'd get on a feature branch | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: :P | 14:16 |
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| nikhil | flaper87: sure, so.. more explanation is required definitely on 'why' this plan | 14:17 |
| nikhil | flaper87: so, the intent is to not avoid more /wider review set | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | Also, given the fact next cycle is going to be shorter, I think this will just add more work | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I know that's not the intent but I'm afraid that's what's going to happen :( | 14:17 |
| nikhil | flaper87: unfortunately, this is the only way forward.. I tried to setup many reviews this cycle & poked people for them but haven't gotten reviews. | 14:18 |
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| nikhil | for example: the value discovery patch has been ready (refreshed) but no reviews | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I have to disagree, really. I think a feature branch for such important work is a mistake | 14:19 |
| nikhil | well, one review :) | 14:19 |
| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270980/ | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I think the lack of reviews might also come from a lack of awareness on this work by other folks and definitely lack of focus (glare?) | 14:20 |
| nikhil | flaper87: feature branch or not, I think the intent to just focus on 2 things before the summit | 14:20 |
| * flaper87 is definitely not trying to find the cause of the current state | 14:20 | |
| nikhil | flaper87: fwiw, the glance reviews and reviewers have dropped drastically since the split of the project | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i guess we could think of master as the import feature branch? | 14:20 |
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| nikhil | we can keep disagreeing :) | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: yup, noticed that :( | 14:21 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: yeah, I am not interested in the details really | 14:21 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I think the request for feature branch was for 2 main reasons | 14:21 |
| nikhil | 1) avoid merge conflicts | 14:21 |
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| nikhil | 2) have a way to test the entire set of patches cleanly (without extraneous commits from master) | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | thing is, you'll have to deal with those merge conflicts eventually | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | anyway, just my $0.02 | 14:22 |
| nikhil | true | 14:22 |
| nikhil | flaper87: so the plan fully is like this: | 14:22 |
| nikhil | 1. create a feature branch | 14:22 |
| nikhil | 2. set up a test bed for the entire set of patches to deterministically understand import discovery and behavior | 14:23 |
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| nikhil | 3. get glance's (core and other influencers') consensus | 14:23 |
| nikhil | 4. push the entire set to master | 14:23 |
| nikhil | 5. link, poke, push cross project teams to review the set again | 14:23 |
| nikhil | There are 2 advantages to this approach (besides the disadvatages you describe): | 14:24 |
| nikhil | 1) have all glancer's on the same page about the feature | 14:24 |
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| nikhil | 2) while discussing with wider set of interest parties, have the information and behavior well udnerstood before making further claims | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | That's where we seem to disagree, I don't think a feature branch will help with #1 and/or #2 | 14:25 |
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| nikhil | Having said that, I believe in democratic decision making (hence the dissatisfaction with glare too): | 14:25 |
| nikhil | so, I am okay to vote on the plan and we can etherpad this out | 14:26 |
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| flaper87 | vote sounds good, It might not be needed if everyone agreed during the last meeting | 14:26 |
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| flaper87 | I don't mean to act as a blocker but I definitely wanted to let it all out | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:26 |
| nikhil | flaper87: well, it was just rosmaita Jokke_ and me :) | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | I plan to help with reviews where/when possible | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: is on PTO today | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | so it'd be you, rosmaita and me (and whomever wants to vote) | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:27 |
| nikhil | he told us.. hence the confusion :) | 14:27 |
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| flaper87 | gotcha | 14:27 |
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| flaper87 | ok, if you and rosmaita still think feature branch is good | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i am on the fence | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | I will stand by it | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: sorry? :P | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i haven't seen this done in glance before, i don't think? | 14:28 |
| nikhil | flaper87: nah, we can ask votes from croelandt , sabari , stuart and othes too (whoever thinks they will have time for reviews) | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | let me put it this way | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | I'm don't think I'll code on this | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | I'll provide reviews | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | if people that are going to code on this prefer it that way, then I guess I'm ok (which doesn't mean I agree :P) | 14:29 |
| nikhil | flaper87: I'm on the fence too | 14:29 |
| nikhil | just wanted to point out strong opinions I heard from last sync | 14:29 |
| nikhil | otherwise we will have another set of confusion! | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: yeah, thanks for that btw. I appreciate the extra context | 14:29 |
| nikhil | flaper87: so, I can assume you acting proxy for both Jokke_ and croelandt | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | Jokke_: would kill me if I do :P | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | nah, I just found out about the feature branch today and I didn't have a chance to talk to Jokke_ | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | I thought croelandt was around | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | croelandt: YO! | 14:30 |
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| nikhil | gotcha | 14:31 |
| * flaper87 shakes France | 14:31 | |
| nikhil | LOL | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | it ain't working | 14:31 |
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| * flaper87 is hereby entitled to speak for croelandt | 14:31 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | jokes apart, process wise I don't think it'll help | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | and by process I mean reviews and get it into master | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | Code wise, it might. fewer frequent conflicts (you have conflicts when you rebase) | 14:32 |
| nikhil | okay, so looks like one -2 on the feature branch and no +2 for it :D | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | also, I don't want the feature branch to be an excuse for "I'll do weird random commits because meh, it's a feature branch" | 14:32 |
| nikhil | flaper87: oh, totoally a possiblity | 14:33 |
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| croelandt | flaper87: yep | 14:33 |
| nikhil | so... this work is open to coding from others but my preference is to keep the team small and connected (So sync regularly and even if there's nothing to sync just talk non-sense) | 14:33 |
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| croelandt | huhu | 14:33 |
| croelandt | I'm a bit skeptical about the whole thing as well | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | croelandt: say some more, flaper87 has volunteerd you to do lots of work on this | 14:34 |
| nikhil | indeed | 14:34 |
| * flaper87 won't try to hide the fact he has literally volunteered croelandt | 14:34 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:34 |
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| croelandt | rosmaita: I'm afraid we might end up with more issues than we'll solve, and more complexity in the process | 14:35 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: any specific opinions you are looking for? | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | did we lose contact with France again? | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | oh, there he is | 14:35 |
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| croelandt | now I might not be perfectly clear on the details, but eh | 14:35 |
| nikhil | okay, let's just discuss the details process later but from the opinions in today's meeting | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | croelandt: you mean by having the feature branch? | 14:36 |
| nikhil | #agreed import refactor work will NOT have a feature branch and work continues in master | 14:36 |
| croelandt | rosmaita: I mean, it might help wit hthe conflicts, but you'll end up having to fix them anyway | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | croelandt: gotcha | 14:36 |
| croelandt | the whole review process is already heavy enough | 14:36 |
| nikhil | heh | 14:37 |
| nikhil | croelandt: that's the thought of the day! | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | i am in agreement with the #agreed statement | 14:37 |
| croelandt | + it will get even more complex for non-pro contributors | 14:37 |
| * flaper87 gets his wine | 14:37 | |
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| nikhil | should we move on? | 14:38 |
| croelandt | yep | 14:38 |
| nikhil | thanks all for the valuable input! | 14:38 |
| nikhil | moving on.. | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | thanks for listening | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:38 |
| nikhil | #topic Community Images (nikhil, tsymanczyk) | 14:38 |
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| nikhil | :) | 14:38 |
| nikhil | not sure if tsymanczyk is around today.. | 14:39 |
| tsymanczyk | should i talk? | 14:39 |
| nikhil | he is! | 14:39 |
| nikhil | (I did see you hi5) | 14:39 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: please go ahead or I'd have proxy you :) | 14:39 |
| * rosmaita just noticed that flaper87 has wine | 14:40 | |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: I have a wine cellar :P | 14:40 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: you still writing? | 14:41 |
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| tsymanczyk | the original patchset that swaps in a visibilty column is still full of broken tests and nightmares. locally i believe i have sqlalchemy/api.py solid. starting looking at simple.api.py and there's weirdness from the getgo i still need to identify | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | doing this non tdd is not usual for me. the broken tests make everything hard | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | even thoygh i broke them | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | :) | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | ipad typing is slow | 14:42 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: I think we forgot to sync on the TDD aspect. that non-TDD was only to help get things ready for newton reviews. now that the plan is different, we can go back to TDD :) | 14:43 |
| tsymanczyk | that's all i know. questions comments? | 14:43 |
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| tsymanczyk | oh and i'll becollapsing the three sets into two. there's no real calue and actually downside to seperating the latter two | 14:44 |
| tsymanczyk | will be easier to comprehend and review | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: only comment is thanks for continuing to work on this! | 14:44 |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:44 |
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| tsymanczyk | thank you foryour continued support and patience! | 14:45 |
| * nikhil was imagining rosmaita and tsymanczyk xoxo :D | 14:46 | |
| tsymanczyk | o_O | 14:46 |
| * nikhil is surpised no comments from flaper87 on the comment | 14:46 | |
| rosmaita | hey, we are trying to show that the glance community is a caring and supportive one! | 14:47 |
| * nikhil trying to reduce everyone's stress level | 14:47 | |
| nikhil | rosmaita: indeed a good idea | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | group hug everyone! | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | (is there an emoticon for that?) | 14:47 |
| nikhil | :hug: | 14:47 |
| tsymanczyk | {} i think | 14:47 |
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| nikhil | \o-O-o/ | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ok, so {{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}} | 14:47 |
| nikhil | mine was more for a team celebration, less of a hug | 14:48 |
| nikhil | (celebration posing for a picture) | 14:48 |
| nikhil | aight looks like no more comments, moving on to the next topic | 14:48 |
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| nikhil | #topic Mission Statement (rosmaita) | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | i put that on the agenda because earlier in the week it was just sitting there | 14:49 |
| nikhil | ah | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | i thought the TC was waiting for more glance folks to weigh in | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | but shortly after i put it on the agenda, the roll call votes started rolling in | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | so now my announcement is thtat the TC has approved the change | 14:50 |
| nikhil | #info Mission statement for glance has been updated since the glare split see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354053/ | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | thank you! that's what i was looking for | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: lol, missed that, sorry | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | have too many windows open | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:51 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:51 |
| nikhil | #topic Open Discussion | 14:52 |
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| nikhil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1616539 | 14:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616539 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "architecture not validated in "openstack image create"" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to tamil vanan (tamilhce) | 14:52 |
| nikhil | who proposed that to the agenda? | 14:52 |
| nikhil | though, I remember rosmaita chatting with someone regarding this bug?? | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | probably tamilhce | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i suggested it | 14:53 |
| nikhil | ah | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | so briefly here's the issue | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | we have "common image properties" in glance | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | that really aren't special | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | they were introduced for interoperability | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | so that all openstack clouds would use the same metadata key for these things | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | (they are listed in the docs, by the way) | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | but, it was completely voluntary for people to acutally use them | 14:54 |
| nikhil | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/common-image-properties.html | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | and at the time, the PTL said that we didn't want to list values because they were likely to change too fast | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | whereas people's schemas would most likely only change release-to-release | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | so the problem tamil is addressing is that there's no control over what values go in there | 14:55 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: but we do the schematic validation! | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | and if you misspell something, and a consumer (like nova) is loooking for one of these, it will choke | 14:56 |
| nikhil | ah.. | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: we just make sure it's a stirn | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | *string | 14:56 |
| nikhil | yeah, gotcha | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | now, in these modern times, we have metadefs | 14:56 |
| nikhil | lol | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | so glance has a catalog of metadata keys (standardized) with descriptions of what values they can have | 14:57 |
| * nikhil remmebers the chat on attempting to enforce them using metadefs | 14:57 | |
| rosmaita | my opinion is that instead of trying to change the image schema piecemeal, if we want to have value enforcement, we should do it through metadefs | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | that way it will extend past just one or two "common image properties" | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | time check, 90 seconds | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i guess comment on tamil's patch? | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: in short, I think this needs much further discussion for we're overlapping two fundamentally different parts of glance together | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i will comment, other interested parties please follow up | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: ++ | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | spec for sure | 14:59 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: also, Ive a concern regarding the persistence of the metadefs | 14:59 |
| nikhil | for instance, could someone forget to update the .json files and override such tweaks via the api (w/o exporting) | 15:00 |
| nikhil | anyway, out of time | 15:00 |
| nikhil | thanks all for joining! | 15:00 |
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| nikhil | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 15:00:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-01-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-01-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-01-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 15:00:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 15:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:00 |
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| matt-borland | o/ | 15:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:00 |
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| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | mornin | 15:02 |
| TravT | how is everybody today? | 15:02 |
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| david-lyle | just ducky | 15:02 |
| TravT | glad to hear it. :) | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | satisfactory | 15:02 |
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| TravT | all right, might as well kick it off | 15:03 |
| TravT | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| TravT | #topic Newton release status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton release status (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:03 | |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
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| yingjun | o/ | 15:04 |
| TravT | i submitted the milestone 3 release tag for the searchlight service this morning | 15:04 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/364364 | 15:04 |
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| TravT | if you look at the highlights, we really accomplished a lot in the last 6 weeks | 15:04 |
| david-lyle | \o/ | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Support for ElasticSearch aggregation queries | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Nova Server Group plugin | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Nova Flavor plugin | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Nova notification optimizations to reduce API callbacks | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Bulk indexing performance improvements (parralellization) | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Optional indexing of region name for multi-region search deployments | 15:04 |
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| TravT | - Zero downtime ElasticSearch mapping updates without API callbacks | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Ability to leverage existing service policy files (phase 1) | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Facets now include total doc counts | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Initial support for OpenStack API Ref | 15:04 |
| TravT | - Searchlight architecture and deployment overview documentation | 15:05 |
| TravT | - Various bug fixes | 15:05 |
| TravT | Great work everybody! | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | time for pie? | 15:05 |
| TravT | apple? | 15:05 |
| TravT | Earlier this week I submitted the 1.0.0 tag for the client | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | still no idea where brian found that in tokyo | 15:06 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363161/ | 15:06 |
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| TravT | we didn't really do much with the client this release | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: it was austin! | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | (whole foods) | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | (peach) | 15:06 |
| TravT | i'll say one thing | 15:06 |
| TravT | rosmaita is a man of his word | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | you’re right. i think i’m going senile | 15:06 |
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| rosmaita | an apple pie in tokyo would have been many, many yen | 15:07 |
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| rosmaita | not sure i can guarantee a pie in barcelona, though | 15:07 |
| TravT | I have not submitted the searchlight UI milestone tag yet | 15:08 |
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| TravT | will do that later today. | 15:08 |
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| TravT | Thought I would point out that I added something pretty cool to SL plugin last night | 15:09 |
| TravT | still need to polish it | 15:09 |
| TravT | but leveraging the new horizon registry framework and the elastic search aggregation ability | 15:09 |
| TravT | i was able to add a column to the image table | 15:10 |
| TravT | which does an aggregation of the # of times an image is used | 15:10 |
| TravT | IOW, how many instances are currently using it | 15:10 |
| TravT | http://imgur.com/a/l7S00 | 15:10 |
| TravT | see the instances column to the right | 15:10 |
| RickA-HP | That's very useful! | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | nice. i can see that kind of aggregation being useful elsewhere; where networks are used and such | 15:10 |
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| david-lyle | that's cool | 15:11 |
| TravT | patch is up, but it needs polishing. | 15:11 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364078/ | 15:11 |
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| TravT | which kind of brings us to FFEs | 15:12 |
| TravT | For the service, I have the following listed: | 15:12 |
| TravT | Policy based RBAC part 2 | 15:12 |
| TravT | RBAC for network sharing | 15:12 |
| TravT | Resource type mapping info | 15:12 |
| TravT | API Ref docs | 15:12 |
| * rosmaita will work on the api-ref over the weekend | 15:13 | |
| TravT | anything i'm missing? | 15:13 |
| TravT | rosmaita: i gave you a few more examples in the etherpad | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | nope, not planning on adding anything else, just testing | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | TravT: thanks, i saw that you gave me examples, but didn't actually look at them yet | 15:14 |
| TravT | i think we can add an example aggregation query | 15:14 |
| TravT | We have a lot of bugs that we should be looking over as well | 15:15 |
| TravT | searchlight | 15:15 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:15 |
| rosmaita | also, i think the api-ref is published out-of-band, so prob doesn't need FFE | 15:15 |
| TravT | rosmaita i figured as much | 15:16 |
| rosmaita | but, it will help keep me focused | 15:16 |
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| TravT | RickA-HP sjmc7 and I have gone through and assigned a few to us | 15:16 |
| TravT | but if anybody else can pick up a bug or two to target in the next couple weeks, that'd be great | 15:16 |
| lei-zh | yeah, will help fixing | 15:17 |
| TravT | thanks lei-zh | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | also *finding* bugs would also be really useful | 15:18 |
| TravT | yes, let's squash anything we can | 15:18 |
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| TravT | On the searchlight UI, we have some polishing to do | 15:19 |
| TravT | there are a few bugs | 15:19 |
| TravT | and a couple things we already got feedback from one usability study | 15:19 |
| TravT | so, expect a few things to go through there | 15:20 |
| TravT | #topic Searchlight UI Usability Study | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Searchlight UI Usability Study (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:20 | |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ui-usuability-study | 15:20 |
| TravT | Danielle from the UX group has been polishing our questions | 15:20 |
| TravT | will be meeting with her later today | 15:21 |
| TravT | #topic Barcelona summit | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barcelona summit (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:21 | |
| TravT | I requested one fishbowl and one working session | 15:22 |
| TravT | and if there is room, a contributors meetup. | 15:22 |
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| TravT | probably would be more useful if anybody that can go can attend appropriate sessions in other projects to try to get some visibility into the need for improved notifications | 15:23 |
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| rosmaita | i volunteer to attend the glance sessions | 15:24 |
| TravT | we can talk through this more later, but even if you aren't sure if you can attend, you should know today is the last today your ATC code will get you free early bird access | 15:24 |
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| TravT | so you probably should register if there is even a chance you are going. | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | i was an early early bird this time, in contrast to austin when i was an extremely late one | 15:24 |
| TravT | yeah, they had to recognize how special sjmc7 is to get him into austin | 15:25 |
| rosmaita | had to slip someone some pie | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, “special” was almost the word they used | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7 | i sometimes wonder what the ratio of registrations to actual attendance is | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | must be tough to plan for | 15:26 |
| TravT | yeah, i definitely wonder that. | 15:26 |
| TravT | probably used to be easy | 15:26 |
| TravT | everybody went | 15:26 |
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| rosmaita | those were the days | 15:27 |
| lei-zh | probably i will be at barcelona this time | 15:27 |
| TravT | lei-zh that's great! | 15:27 |
| TravT | did you get a talk? | 15:27 |
| lei-zh | nope, maybe i'm lucky enough | 15:28 |
| lei-zh | first summit experience : ) | 15:28 |
| TravT | well, not a bad one to go to... Barcelona is pretty incredible | 15:28 |
| yingjun | great, i would be there also if no issue for my visa.. | 15:28 |
| TravT | :) | 15:28 |
| lei-zh | cool yingjun, let's pray for the visa | 15:29 |
| yingjun | ;) | 15:29 |
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| TravT | yingjun, i really hope you can be there to help push on nova notifications | 15:30 |
| TravT | #topic call for reviews | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "call for reviews (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:31 | |
| yingjun | yeah, i hope so, we really need that! | 15:31 |
| TravT | these ones are ready for feedback | 15:32 |
| TravT | Nova error states: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364009/ | 15:32 |
| TravT | Neutron RBAC https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348701/ | 15:32 |
| TravT | and early feedback WIP Policy RBAC https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362470/ | 15:32 |
| TravT | but let's just go into open discussion | 15:33 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:33 |
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| TravT | any topics | 15:33 |
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| TravT | well, again, thank everybody for milestone 3! | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | nope | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | when’re the official RC/final dates? | 15:35 |
| TravT | http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:35 |
| TravT | RC1 will be Sept 15-ish | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | ok. so about a month to final | 15:35 |
| TravT | Final RC should be Sept 30 | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | wow, it’s september already | 15:36 |
| TravT | yeah, that happened overnight | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | happy september, everyone! | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | there are already like 100 emails on the openstack-dev list for september | 15:37 |
| TravT | wow, i can't believe there have already been 100 decisions made via the mailing list this month! | 15:37 |
| * TravT not being serious | 15:38 | |
| sjmc7 | you are inaccurate to 2 significant digits | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | i think the decision/email ratio is 1/100 | 15:38 |
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| TravT | all right, we should probably let our friends in Asia feel like they can go to sleep | 15:39 |
| TravT | thanks everybody | 15:39 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 15:39:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-01-15.00.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-01-15.00.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-01-15.00.log.html | 15:39 |
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| evrardjp | hello | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 16:05:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| asettle | o/ | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:05 |
| michaelgugino | hi | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:05 |
| asettle | o/ | 16:05 |
| palendae | Hello | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | apologoies for the late start, I was a little distracted | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | 5' is fine :) | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | as long as you don't do that everytime! | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:06 |
| BjoernT | odyssey4me: multi threaded meetings :-) | 16:06 |
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| asettle | evrardjp likes to be punctual | 16:07 |
| spotz | o/ | 16:07 |
| cjloader | hi all | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | alright, let's kick into gear | 16:08 |
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| odyssey4me | mhayden is out today, so you get me... sorry for that :p | 16:08 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Newton-3 has been released. Onward to RC1. | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-newton-rc1 | 16:09 |
| asettle | Winner winner chicken dinner | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | somehow n3 released with a bug which breaks things, then stevelle found it and fixed it | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | so n3 is not entirely functional, but that's ok | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | p | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | that's why we have rcs | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | our primary goals are now to find bugs and get upgrades working | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | I'd like input on any known issues so that we can track and resolve them | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | can y'all add notes in the etherpad | 16:11 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, I added some new bits there | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | do we have any volunteers to take the lead for each unfinished initiative ? | 16:14 |
| andymccr | i'll work on centralised testing | 16:14 |
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| asettle | I'll obvs take the install guide stuff | 16:16 |
| nishpatwa | I shasha_tavil and qwang can help you guyz if you need any help | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the offer nishpatwa :) | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, we can keep that going afterwards obviously | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | add to it as you think of things please | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | let's try and use that to co-ordinate things that need doing | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | we have around 2.5 weeks before all the upstream projects issue RC's, and we must too | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, moving on | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Liberty -> Mitaka upgrades | 16:26 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp I believe that https://review.openstack.org/360539 is pretty much the last bit for the roles we ship with OSA? | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | and it's a cosmetic fix | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | is that a fair statement? | 16:27 |
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| evrardjp | fair enough statement for what we ship with osa | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | ppl can have issues when they have ceph-mons in containers | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | it's something I will have a look in the future | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I saw some chat about that in the channel last night | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | our prio list for that went a little down, so I had to work on something else | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | ok - are we in a place where we can take off the warning labels we have in the docs and script so that people don't get the warning about it being untested? | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | there is probably some kind of docs that should be included too | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | for neutron | 16:29 |
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| asettle | Uhhhh odyssey4me I don't know if I want the warning label off the docs. It genuinely IS untested. | 16:29 |
| asettle | If you want to remove the labels, could we potentially add a 'in testing' for the install guide? | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | asettle for liberty -> mitaka we've had some deployers say they did it and all was well | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | asettle this refers to the mitaka docs, not the newton docs | 16:30 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: yesss that's specifically what I am referring to. | 16:30 |
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| evrardjp | I could have a commit to remove that message indeed | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | I'll do that today | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | I think the script should still require confirmation that the deployer intends to do it - but we can take the 'OMG THIS WILL NEVER WORK' warnings away now. | 16:31 |
| asettle | Hmm okay | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | if there are still improvements, they can come | 16:31 |
| asettle | I mean, I want to say 'yes it'll work it's amazing' but hey, I really don't know. | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | no, we can't make that sort of promise | 16:32 |
| qwang | i want to bring up one thing. the script does not confirm the current version installed and the version of run-upgrade itself. | 16:32 |
| qwang | it seems a little unsafe to me | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | qwang yeah, we should probably implement something nice in master for newton | 16:33 |
| palendae | Previous iterations of the upgrade script did try to check versions | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | but I don't want to try and implement changes in mitaka now... I'll leave that to those who are actively testing and working on it | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | so mitaka -> newton upgrade reviews are open season | 16:34 |
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| evrardjp | you have your commit | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364448/ | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | thanks evrardjp | 16:35 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, there's nothing else on the agenda | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | so #topic Open Discussion | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Open Discussion | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | anyone got anything specific to raise? | 16:37 |
| palendae | Not I | 16:37 |
| oneswig | Hi all, a quick question | 16:37 |
| oneswig | Anyone using OS-A with SR-IOV networking? | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | hmm, oneswig IIRC a while back someone asked about it | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | but I don't think anyone's using it at this stage. | 16:38 |
| oneswig | ... might have been me... | 16:38 |
| oneswig | OK thanks odyssey4me, I'm guessing its not on the radar either? | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | no I think someone else long ago asked this too :D | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | oneswig once it becomes important to someone, typically we see patches for it coming in | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | oneswig: if you have issues we can maybe sort that out in the chan | 16:39 |
| palendae | I don't think I've heard of anyone pushing on that; i think that's what it needs to be on the radar | 16:40 |
| palendae | Similar to OVS support | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | but yeah, if you need help hacking it to work then we're always available to discuss | 16:40 |
| oneswig | We use tripleo for deploying SR-IOV, I was wondering... | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | if you can advise what sort of things would be needed, we can probably put the patches together... but we have no way of testing it unfortunately | 16:41 |
| oneswig | odyssey4me: if I get the chance i will certainly do that as I do have a working implementation for reference | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | oneswig soo... if you could lend us a supercomputer for a few weeks we could put it together :p | 16:41 |
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| oneswig | ha. | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | I can find time in my week-ends to work on this :D | 16:42 |
| oneswig | Thanks all, I will hopefully follow up in due course | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | alright, anything else? | 16:43 |
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| odyssey4me | okie dokey - I guess that's it then | 16:46 |
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| odyssey4me | thanks all | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 16:46:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-09-01-16.05.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-09-01-16.05.txt | 16:46 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 17:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:01 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:01 |
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| pcarver | hi LouisF | 17:01 |
| LouisF | hi paul | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | hi doonhammer | 17:01 |
| doonhammer | Hi Louis | 17:02 |
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| yamahata | hello | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi yamahata | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | yamahata: can we discuss your precommit/postcommit needed for the SFC-ODL driver | 17:04 |
| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363893 | 17:04 |
| yamahata | LouisF: yes. | 17:04 |
| yamahata | The patch status is to show the idea in order to reach consensus. | 17:04 |
| LouisF | yamahata: can you explain why it is needed? | 17:04 |
| yamahata | ODL driver needs a hook in during db transaction and a hook after that. | 17:05 |
| yamahata | Basically ODL doesn't send requests to ODL directly on behalf on crud_xxx | 17:05 |
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| yamahata | but it creates opereration log in DB | 17:05 |
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| yamahata | and later background thread sync it by sending actual request to ODL. | 17:06 |
| yamahata | The important point is that the journal logging should happen in the same transaction that manipulates neutron resource. | 17:06 |
| yamahata | Does it explain? or more details are needed? | 17:07 |
| yamahata | The motivation is to avoid out-of-sync state between neutron db and ODL controller. | 17:07 |
| LouisF | why a background thread? | 17:08 |
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| yamahata | Actually with postcommit, we sends requests to ODL as optimization. | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | why is a background thread needed? | 17:09 |
| yamahata | We can't assume that postcommit can always handle operation log. | 17:10 |
| yamahata | Neutron can crash at anytime. | 17:10 |
| yamahata | for example neutron can crash after db transaction, but before postcommit. | 17:10 |
| yamahata | In that case, background thread monitors journal db and odl state, it processes operation log. | 17:11 |
| yamahata | In normal cases, background thread only processes maintenance. | 17:11 |
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| LouisF | so the odl driver design is to ensure sync between the neutron db and odl is neutron crashes? | 17:12 |
| shasha_tavil | :q:aQ | 17:13 |
| LouisF | if neutron crashes | 17:13 |
| yamahata | Half yes. | 17:13 |
| yamahata | Other half goal is to keep the order of operation. | 17:13 |
| yamahata | For example there are two update. | 17:13 |
| yamahata | In that case, we have to send those two update in order. | 17:13 |
| yamahata | Without operation log, the order of sending request to ODL can be reversed. | 17:14 |
| yamahata | with operation log, we can maintain the order. | 17:14 |
| LouisF | how would the order of requests sent to the odl controller be reversed? | 17:14 |
| yamahata | Neutron server is multi threaded with eventlet. | 17:14 |
| yamahata | the thread switch can happend at any io. | 17:15 |
| yamahata | When neutorn tries to send request to ODL, thread switch can happend. | 17:15 |
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| yamahata | happen | 17:15 |
| yamahata | Then, the second request can be sent to ODL first. | 17:16 |
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| yamahata | With operation log, we add sequence number. such reorder is checked. | 17:16 |
| LouisF | yamahata: is this request reversal something that occurs frequently? | 17:17 |
| yamahata | If such reorder is found, pass it to background thread | 17:17 |
| yamahata | Not so often. | 17:17 |
| yamahata | with single neutron server. | 17:17 |
| yamahata | But with multiple neutron server deployment, it can easily happen. | 17:17 |
| yamahata | But it happends, it's quite difficult to fix. | 17:18 |
| yamahata | but clear all state in ODL, then push all the state toODL. | 17:18 |
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| yamahata | We don't want to do such, blow up and populate from scratch. | 17:18 |
| yamahata | I think this problem is quite common. e.g. OVN, ONO have similar issue, I believe. | 17:19 |
| yamahata | ONOS | 17:19 |
| LouisF | for others on the call - Isaku had requested we discuss this in this meeting | 17:19 |
| yamahata | For ODL support, driver interface needs to be enhanced. | 17:20 |
| yamahata | The patch is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363893 | 17:20 |
| LouisF | please chime if you have questions | 17:20 |
| Murali_ | LouisF: I have question on cross subnet check | 17:21 |
| Murali_ | LouisF: I seeing the error while creating the port chain | 17:21 |
| LouisF | Murali_: can we take that a bit later i'd like to finish isaku's discussion | 17:21 |
| Murali_ | LouisF:Sure Thank you | 17:22 |
| LouisF | yamahata: you are propsing the pre/postcommit for each crud | 17:22 |
| yamahata | Yes, exactly. | 17:23 |
| pcarver | I don't have any experience troubleshooting race conditions in multi-threaded systems that need order to be synchronized, but everything yamahata wrote seems reasonable | 17:23 |
| yamahata | the patch keeps backward compatibility to the existing driver | 17:23 |
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| LouisF | yamahata: thats good | 17:25 |
| LouisF | yamahata: can you add unit tests | 17:25 |
| yamahata | Yes, will do. | 17:25 |
| yamahata | I wanted to get consensus before going futher. | 17:26 |
| LouisF | yamahata: +1 | 17:26 |
| yamahata | Seems like reached consensus. | 17:26 |
| yamahata | I'm done. | 17:26 |
| LouisF | i would like vikram choudry to comment as this may affect the onos driver | 17:27 |
| LouisF | i will add him as reviewer | 17:27 |
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| yamahata | makes sense. that's quite fair. | 17:28 |
| LouisF | he is not on the call | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | i want to make sure that the existing ovs and onos drivers work ok | 17:28 |
| LouisF | with the changes for pre/postcommit | 17:29 |
| LouisF | yamahata: if this is done how long before the odl driver will be complete? | 17:29 |
| yamahata | Not sure. It's up to Anil. My call would be 1 week or so. | 17:30 |
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| fsunaval | ... | 17:31 |
| LouisF | this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337948 | 17:31 |
| LouisF | yamahata: i'd like to progress this as fast as possible | 17:31 |
| yamahata | I see. Do you have any deadline or something? | 17:32 |
| LouisF | yamahata: i'd like this work complete for newton | 17:32 |
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| yamahata | Wow. gotcha. | 17:32 |
| LouisF | yamahata: do you see that as a problem? | 17:33 |
| yamahata | I can take care of driver interface part. | 17:33 |
| yamahata | ODL driver patch is out of my control. | 17:33 |
| yamahata | We need to nudge anil. | 17:33 |
| LouisF | yamahata: great - i will contact anil on the driver itself | 17:34 |
| LouisF | yamahata: could you also speak to anil | 17:34 |
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| yamahata | Sure, off course. | 17:34 |
| LouisF | question of the journal logging - i am not familiar with that can you explain | 17:35 |
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| yamahata | For detailed design, there is a wiki page | 17:36 |
| yamahata | https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/NeutronNorthbound:NeutronDriverOverhaul | 17:36 |
| yamahata | Basically there is a table which is called opendaylightjournal | 17:36 |
| yamahata | it contains seqnum(autoincrement), uuid, operation, data(json to be sent) | 17:37 |
| yamahata | with other maintenance columns. | 17:37 |
| yamahata | like timestamp | 17:37 |
| LouisF | yamahata: thanks i will look at that | 17:37 |
| yamahata | with timestamp and seqnum, the entries are ordered in the order that operation is done. | 17:37 |
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| fsunaval_ | ... | 17:38 |
| LouisF | yamahata: so this is an issue in a larger context of all neutron requests and odl | 17:38 |
| yamahata | Yes. | 17:39 |
| yamahata | It applies to all drivers, plugins. ML2, l3 etc... | 17:39 |
| LouisF | the other neutron crud requests all have pre/postcommit support? | 17:39 |
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| yamahata | Now, I'm requesting it. | 17:40 |
| yamahata | Right now ML2 and L3. | 17:40 |
| yamahata | L3 case it's plugin, so it's okay. | 17:40 |
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| yamahata | We are starting to cover other apis. | 17:40 |
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| LouisF | yamahata: we definitely want to help with this | 17:40 |
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| yamahata | thanks, it definitively helps. | 17:42 |
| LouisF | yamahata: thanks for putting that patch together | 17:42 |
| LouisF | all - please review | 17:42 |
| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:43 |
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| LouisF | Murali_: you had a question | 17:43 |
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| Murali_ | LouisF: Shall we discuss off-line after the meeting? | 17:44 |
| LouisF | Murali_: ok thats fine | 17:44 |
| LouisF | i have to get to another meeting so i am going to cut this short today | 17:45 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:46 |
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| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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