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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 08:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
| ifat_afek | hi everyone! | 08:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi all! | 08:02 |
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| eyalb | hi | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:06 | |
| ifat_afek | Newton release - vitrage Newton versions are marked: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | vitrage 1.3.0 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | python-vitrageclient 1.0.1 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | vitrage-dashboard 1.0.2 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | We now have stable/newton branch for all vitrage repositories, and master can be used for Ocata development. | 08:06 |
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| ifat_afek | The final release is scheduled for October 6. | 08:07 |
| elisha_r | hi | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | I’m working on the documentation. I want to make sure that the developer guide, blueprints, api reference – are all up to date and copied to openstack official sites. | 08:07 |
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| ifat_afek | Who wants to update? | 08:07 |
| danoffek | hi guys | 08:07 |
| eyalb | I will | 08:07 |
| eyalb | I am working on installing a devstack with vitrage that will get its data from a remote openstack cluster | 08:08 |
| eyalb | we will use the devstack keystone for vitrage and for the datasources we will communicate with the remote keystone | 08:09 |
| eyalb | thats all | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: cool. sounds like an interesting use case | 08:09 |
| danoffek | I'll update on the templates list on Horizon | 08:09 |
| danoffek | I started working on the UI . | 08:10 |
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| danoffek | I'll also add a blueprint for it | 08:10 |
| danoffek | It's a simple template list on phase one, without the option to update templates via UI . | 08:11 |
| danoffek | That's it | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | danoffek: that’s great. will you also show the template file? | 08:11 |
| danoffek | I'll display anything available via the standard vitrage teplates list API. | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | cool | 08:12 |
| alexey_weyl | I have an update | 08:13 |
| alexey_weyl | I have worked on the multi tenancy blueprint | 08:13 |
| alexey_weyl | it is working, and I have only some final touches to make, and then I will push into github | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: thanks | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | any other updates? | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | moving on | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Preparations for Barcelona | 08:16 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Preparations for Barcelona (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:16 | |
| ifat_afek | Good news: vitrage hands-on lab was accepted! | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | It was an “alternate session”, so I guess some other session was canceled. We should start planning it. | 08:17 |
| danoffek | Only a few weeks to prepare. Still, we'll be ready. | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | danoffek: of course :-) | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | This is the up to date schedule for the design sessions: | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | We will have three design sessions on Wednesday: | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | 15:05-15:45: workroom | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | 15:55-16:35: fishbowl | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | 17:55-18:35: workroom | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | I saw that some of you wrote your ideas in the etherpad. Feel free to add some more: | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-barcelona-design-sessions | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | other than that, elisha_r and myself submitted two “brown bag” talk proposals. These are 10-minutes talks in smaller rooms than the regular sessions. We are in the waiting list... | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:20 | |
| ifat_afek | any other issues? | 08:20 |
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| ifat_afek | goodbye then | 08:21 |
| danoffek | by | 08:21 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:21 | |
| eyalb | bye | 08:21 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 08:21:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-28-08.01.html | 08:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-28-08.01.txt | 08:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-28-08.01.log.html | 08:21 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 09:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 09:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:00 |
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| dtardivel | hi | 09:01 |
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| licanwei | hi | 09:01 |
| tmetsch | hi | 09:01 |
| acabot | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#09.2F28.2F2016 | 09:02 |
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| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:02 | |
| acabot | #info please complete topics list in barcelona summit etherpad | 09:02 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-ocata-design-session | 09:02 |
| acabot | tmetsch : do you plan to join us in Barcelona ? | 09:03 |
| tmetsch | acabot: not 100% sure yet. | 09:03 |
| acabot | ok | 09:03 |
| acabot | licanwei : please complete the topics list in the etherpad | 09:04 |
| acabot | #info Watcher Newton final release will be submitted today | 09:04 |
| acabot | we will have a final release for watcher-pythonclient and watcher-dashboard as well | 09:05 |
| acabot | please test it asap, it still time to submit bugs | 09:05 |
| acabot | any other announcement ? | 09:05 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:06 | |
| acabot | Watcher specs | 09:06 |
| acabot | Resize instance base on workload needs reviews from core | 09:06 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/ | 09:06 |
| acabot | licanwei : is this ready to be reviewed ? | 09:06 |
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| diga_ | o/ | 09:07 |
| diga_ | got late | 09:07 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 09:07 |
| licanwei | acabot:ok | 09:07 |
| acabot | diga_ : no pb | 09:07 |
| acabot | #action sballe jwcroppe hvprash acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/ | 09:07 |
| acabot | Limit concurrent actions invoked by Watcher needs a new PS | 09:07 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 09:08 |
| acabot | #action jwcroppe add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 09:08 |
| acabot | automatic triggering of action plans for AUDIT needs a new PS | 09:08 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:08 |
| diga_ | acabot: yes | 09:08 |
| acabot | diga_ : I'm concerned about the speed of this spec... | 09:08 |
| diga_ | acabot: I will make sure, it will get merged till next meeting | 09:09 |
| acabot | diga_ : do you want me to take it over and then you will be able to start implementing ? | 09:09 |
| acabot | diga_ : I dont think its ready for core reviews | 09:09 |
| diga_ | acabot: yes, I need to update it | 09:10 |
| acabot | diga_ : could you please update it before EOW ? | 09:10 |
| diga_ | acabot: okay | 09:10 |
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| acabot | #action diga_ add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:10 |
| acabot | Add team priorities for Ocata needs a new PS with BP split | 09:10 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372528/ | 09:10 |
| acabot | #action acabot add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372528/ | 09:11 |
| acabot | Watcher | 09:11 |
| acabot | Add Audit Scope Handler needs reviews | 09:11 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/define-the-audit-scope | 09:11 |
| acabot | dtardivel is already working on it | 09:11 |
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| acabot | licanwei : do you want to review it ? | 09:12 |
| licanwei | ok | 09:12 |
| acabot | #action licanwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/define-the-audit-scope | 09:13 |
| acabot | Graph cluster model implementation needs reviews | 09:13 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 09:13 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I'm revewing | 09:14 |
| acabot | tmetsch : do you follow Kevin work on this ? | 09:14 |
| tmetsch | yes | 09:14 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/define-the-audit-scope | 09:14 |
| acabot | tmetsch : vincentfrancoise started reviewing it | 09:14 |
| tmetsch | thanks for that - I'll work with Kevin and address the issue. | 09:15 |
| vincentfrancoise | tmetsch: yeah I started reviewing it yesterday and there were a few points that were bugging me | 09:15 |
| vincentfrancoise | I will address them in the review and I will post probably post them by EOD | 09:16 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise add questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 09:16 |
| tmetsch | vincentfrancoise: cool thanks! | 09:16 |
| acabot | #action tmetsch add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ answering comments and questions | 09:17 |
| acabot | Add service supervisor needs reviews | 09:17 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/watcher-service-list | 09:17 |
| acabot | licanwei : do you want to review this as well ? | 09:17 |
| licanwei | acabot: np | 09:17 |
| dtardivel | I can review it as well | 09:17 |
| acabot | #action licanwei dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/watcher-service-list | 09:18 |
| acabot | Added Tempest API tests for /scoring_engines needs reviews | 09:18 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371558/ | 09:18 |
| acabot | anyone likes to review tempest tests ? | 09:19 |
| acabot | its a small PS ;-) | 09:19 |
| licanwei | me | 09:20 |
| acabot | thx | 09:20 |
| acabot | #action licanwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371558/ | 09:20 |
| acabot | lets move to Watcher CLI | 09:20 |
| acabot | Added support for Client creation from KS session needs reviews | 09:21 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374286/ | 09:21 |
| acabot | it would be great to have this merge for Newton | 09:21 |
| acabot | but its a large PS... | 09:21 |
| acabot | anyone familiar with keystone here ? | 09:22 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:22 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374286/ | 09:23 |
| acabot | thx | 09:23 |
| acabot | Watcher dashboard | 09:23 |
| acabot | Added action details needs reviews | 09:23 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377699/ | 09:23 |
| vincentfrancoise | this is essentially a big refactoring that allows us to simplify the use of python-watcherclient as an SDK instead of a shell command | 09:23 |
| acabot | we really need to have the action details merged before the final release | 09:23 |
| acabot | who can review it today ? | 09:24 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | The idea is to make it behave like other projects to reduce the difficulty for people already used to other OS clients | 09:24 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377699/ | 09:24 |
| acabot | thanks vincentfrancoise for the explanations | 09:25 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:25 | |
| acabot | #info Improve the storage of the ActionPlan has many dependencies and should be started asap | 09:25 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan | 09:25 |
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| acabot | licanwei : this BP has been taken by jinquan | 09:25 |
| acabot | licanwei : I'd like to start working on spec now | 09:26 |
| licanwei | acabot: ok | 09:26 |
| acabot | licanwei : do you know if he can leave the BP ? | 09:26 |
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| acabot | licanwei : or if he already started working a on spec ? | 09:26 |
| licanwei | I don't know | 09:27 |
| acabot | ok I will ask him on launchpad | 09:27 |
| acabot | #action acabot ask jinquan to leave the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan | 09:27 |
| licanwei | I can ask him | 09:28 |
| acabot | ok | 09:28 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-rc-final | 09:28 |
| acabot | we still have 1 bug open | 09:28 |
| acabot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1620225 | 09:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1620225 in watcher "missing doc section to add notifications when building a new cluster data model collector" [Medium,Triaged] | 09:28 |
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| acabot | vincentfrancoise dtardivel : can we fix it before the release ? | 09:29 |
| dtardivel | acabot: We already added a section in the configuration section ...; | 09:29 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: doesn't it correspond to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/watcher/dev/plugin/cdmc-plugin.html#add-new-notification-endpoints ? | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: in which case we can close this bug straight away :) | 09:30 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise : :-) I think you can | 09:31 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussions (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:31 | |
| acabot | I forgot to mention that slides for Watcher talk in Barcelona are open to reviews | 09:31 |
| acabot | #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_YlsOGofvCCZFc3UnZ1MkxBNG8/view?ts=57eaab73 | 09:32 |
| acabot | #undo | 09:32 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7f66f52ef750> | 09:32 |
| acabot | #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_YlsOGofvCCZFc3UnZ1MkxBNG8/view?usp=sharing | 09:32 |
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| acabot | #info We need more reviewers on patches | 09:34 |
| acabot | today most of the reviews are done by core contributors | 09:34 |
| acabot | and I think we need more +1 before each +2 | 09:34 |
| acabot | so please review some code | 09:35 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 on that | 09:35 |
| acabot | licanwei : thank you for taking all these reviews today | 09:35 |
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| licanwei | :) | 09:35 |
| acabot | #action sballe jwcroppe hvprash try to convince people to do more reviews on the project | 09:36 |
| acabot | any other discussion to open ? | 09:36 |
| diga_ | acabot: is it ok if I start reviewing the code ? | 09:36 |
| vincentfrancoise | diga_: anytime you want :) | 09:37 |
| acabot | diga_ : of course you are more than welcome to review | 09:37 |
| diga_ | vincentfrancoise: acabot : thank you! | 09:37 |
| acabot | diga_ : if you start reviewing, please reply with a comment | 09:37 |
| diga_ | acabot: sure | 09:38 |
| acabot | every +1/-1 or even 0 is counted | 09:38 |
| diga_ | okay | 09:38 |
| acabot | if you look at this #link http://stackalytics.com/?module=watcher-group | 09:38 |
| diga_ | acabot: this is good way to understand watcher completely | 09:38 |
| diga_ | sure | 09:39 |
| acabot | 72% of reviews are done by b@#com | 09:39 |
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| acabot | we should be around 50% | 09:39 |
| acabot | every new contributor reviewing code is good for the project | 09:40 |
| diga_ | Yes | 09:40 |
| acabot | if you dont have any other topic to discuss, we can close the meeting | 09:40 |
| acabot | thank you | 09:40 |
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| diga_ | I appreciate b-com teams efforts on this project, I see it everydy | 09:41 |
| acabot | diga_ : thx | 09:41 |
| acabot | bye | 09:41 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 09:41 |
| diga_ | acabot: wc! bye | 09:41 |
| licanwei | bye | 09:41 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 09:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 09:41:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-28-09.00.html | 09:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-28-09.00.txt | 09:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-28-09.00.log.html | 09:41 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 13:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | sdague: johnthetubaguy gmann are you around for api meeting | 13:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | let us wait one mins? | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | ok, just three of us | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | let us start the meting | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic action from previous meeting | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action from previous meeting (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:02 | |
| alex_xu | action: alex_xu to work on generic diagnostics spec | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/357884 | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | Sergey already help on this spec | 13:03 |
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| mriedem | i haven't seen the latest on that one yet | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | there is one hot point in the spec | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | use which value to identify the disk | 13:04 |
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| mriedem | for libvirt i thought we can't rely on the device name | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | there are three options at here, bdm_id, device_name, and disk local path | 13:05 |
| mriedem | so that's why people wanted tags | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, +1 | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: the tags is really for normal user, which defined by normal user, and used by normal user | 13:05 |
| mriedem | i don't like the idea of leaking the bdm id | 13:05 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | expose the tags in an API for debug, that sounds duplicated | 13:06 |
| mriedem | bdm id is per cell and if we're talking about the id field in the db table it could collide with bdms in other cells | 13:06 |
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| alex_xu | so the disk local path is the last choice | 13:06 |
| sdague | mriedem: it's not a uuid? | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | or we create a uuid for this API | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | it is not | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: but we doesn't have api expose the bdm also | 13:07 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah we don't have a uuid on the bdm table | 13:08 |
| mriedem | we've talked about having one forever | 13:08 |
| mriedem | but never had use cases | 13:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith has the patches to make that happen though | 13:08 |
| mriedem | disk local path is the path on the host? | 13:08 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: for network device, it can be a URI, very virt driver specific | 13:09 |
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| mriedem | hmm, if the only point is having a unique identifier per disk/bdm, then i think i'd just go with a uuid | 13:09 |
| mriedem | and we revive dansmith's patches to add a uuid field to the bdm | 13:10 |
| sdague | yeh, uuid seems better than a uri | 13:10 |
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| alex_xu | the point for disk path is this is debug API, so it should be ok for debug user | 13:10 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:abandoned+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1489581+owner:dms@danplanet.com | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like we should do it properly and add a uuid anyways | 13:11 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ++ | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | so do way need API expose that uuid? | 13:12 |
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| alex_xu | s/way/we | 13:12 |
| mriedem | i'd think so | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | something like /servers/{uuid}/bdm? | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we spoke about the VIF APIs I think, pointing to neutron, feels like a unified list of disks that has all bdms, not just volumes, might be what we want? | 13:14 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, a GET call for that as a sub resource probably makes some sense | 13:14 |
| sdague | like alex_xu just said | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I just wonder if we already have something close... | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, we call it os-volume_attachments, thats clearly not a bdm | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | we have vol-attachment API, but it won't include swap and ephermal disk | 13:15 |
| mriedem | nor a bdm uuid since that doesn't exist yet | 13:16 |
| mriedem | brb | 13:16 |
| sdague | yeh, so /servers/{uuid}/bdm seems like a good approach there | 13:16 |
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| alex_xu | is it a little duplicated with vol-attachment API? | 13:16 |
| sdague | I guess, is the disk device info the only hold out here? Could we split that out? | 13:16 |
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| sdague | so diagnostics - disk on first go, get that in. Sort out bdm consistent exposure in parallel, then diag + bdm as second pass. | 13:17 |
| sdague | just so that the rest of the cleanup work can be sorted | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: that sounds like a good idea | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | we have microversion, so that is cool for making progress :) | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | another idea is if we don't have clear use-case for /servers/uuid/bdm, we can put some bdm attribute with uuid in the diag API | 13:19 |
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| sdague | so, honestly, it feels like more consistently dealing with bdm and not just in the attachment api seems sensible | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, it feels like BDMs need some thought, generally. Where do we want to take disks and flavors. | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels a bit wrong we don't expose bdms in a GET api | 13:20 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh | 13:20 |
| sdague | ok, so plan forward. Split diagnostics spec so there is a non disk version | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | ah, i see the point | 13:20 |
| sdague | get that sorted and landed | 13:20 |
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| sdague | then there is probably a bdm api spec (which includes uuid exposure) and diag + bdm | 13:21 |
| sdague | right? | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:22 |
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| mriedem | that would be a regression from the existing diagnostics api, | 13:23 |
| mriedem | so if you wanted disk stuff you'd have to use v2.1 or something lower | 13:23 |
| mriedem | the existing diagnostics api doesn't expose a disk id though, but it does expose some disk stuff | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | or just no id, but with disk info | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 13:24 |
| sdague | ok, well, maybe that then | 13:24 |
| sdague | the thing is, I'd hate to have the standardization get held up on disk id thing that is going to take a while to sort out | 13:24 |
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| mriedem | if long-term you want both disk path and id in the diag api, | 13:26 |
| mriedem | then you could do disk path now | 13:26 |
| mriedem | and add id later | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we want disk path? | 13:26 |
| mriedem | idk | 13:26 |
| mriedem | it's really hard to tell what should be in this thing w/o input from someone that uses it | 13:26 |
| mriedem | we could query the ops list to see if anyone uses the api and if so, what they think about options we're talking about | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yes, although releasing a smaller reduced, but standardized API feels like an improvement | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | they may just tell us to delete it, I guess | 13:29 |
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| sdague | so, with the microversion it would let us replace this with something standard, even if missing info | 13:30 |
| mriedem | i've got to get my kid on the bus so back in a while | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | so, what we should do? | 13:31 |
| sdague | ok, maybe another topic, because we seem to not be agreed here | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets come back to this later | 13:31 |
| sdague | I don't think we're going to get reasonable feedback off of the ops list for a thing like this | 13:31 |
| sdague | and I think standarization is more important than missing info | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 for just getting this standardized | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | +1 | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | even with missing info | 13:32 |
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| alex_xu | so let me feedback to the spec, then we revisit the id problem later? | 13:33 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: sounds good | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu feedback to the diag API spec about just standardized the API first | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | so let's go next one | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | action: johnthetubaguy to sketch out what an ideal security group workflow looks like in the nova api now with neutron as the presumed backend | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-security-groups | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | so that etherpad I had, includes some ideas | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova boot --nic net-id=uuid_net1 security-group=db --nic ned-id=uuid_net2 security-group=api --flavor 1 --image test-image test-server | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | is where I was thinking we could go | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | to add a security group | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | then you just need to look at the port in neutron to find out or modify any details around that | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: so we just need fail when use it with nova-network? | 13:38 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, that makes a lot of sense. | 13:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am thinking nova-network dies in a few weeks, lets just worry about neutron | 13:38 |
| sdague | alex_xu: well nova-net calls after 2.35 are pretty suspect anyway | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, use the older version of the API if you must use nova-network still | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool | 13:38 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: can you turn that into a spec? That seems like it would solve a bunch of things | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | I'm thinking should we stop some point which works for nova-network after 2.35 | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I can make that into a spec | 13:39 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: well, deleting nova-network is going to make it stop after 2.35 | 13:40 |
| mriedem | and before 2.35 for that matter | 13:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, this becomes simpler once we nuke nova-net | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | ah, I see now | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to create a spec out of ideas in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-security-groups | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | ok, so let us go to next one | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | the bit I like about --nic is that already means nothing for nova-net | 13:41 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | action: mriedem to write up spec for os-virtual-interface deprecation | 13:42 |
| mriedem | not really | 13:42 |
| mriedem | --nic can pass the network id or fixed ip for nova-net | 13:42 |
| mriedem | you just can't pass a port for nova-net | 13:42 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: i didn't get that done | 13:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oh, I didn't know that was a thing | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: it's fine, so let us talk about that when it is ready | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | so next one | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | action: alex_xu to write a spec for deprecating the proxy api to set/delete image metadata | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/377528 | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | mriedem already give some review, I need update the spec | 13:44 |
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| alex_xu | the only highlight in the spec is there is quota check in server create_image API, which I thought we should remove | 13:44 |
| mriedem | i think the quota check should be gone, it's actually kind of silly that nova has that at all given glance could blow up even if you pass the nova quota check for image metadata properties | 13:45 |
| mriedem | if the glance quota is lower | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 13:45 |
| mriedem | the thing i'm nervous about is moving the image create before the volume snapshot | 13:46 |
| mriedem | not for any known reason right now except dragons | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | yea, I double check that, probaly test it in my local env, ensure it is safe | 13:46 |
| mriedem | note also, | 13:46 |
| mriedem | cinder probably has a quota on volume snapshots | 13:46 |
| mriedem | so you are fixing one thing by moving image create before vol snapshot, but could be breaking the quota check on vol snapshot | 13:47 |
| mriedem | well, not breaking but you could still fail | 13:47 |
| mriedem | fwiw this is probably why nova-api checks port quota with neutron before casting to the compute to create new ports | 13:47 |
| mriedem | racey as that is | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I have a spec in the works to possibly change that, but yeah | 13:48 |
| mriedem | # Number of volume snapshots allowed per project (integer value) #quota_snapshots = 10 | 13:48 |
| mriedem | ^ from cinder.conf | 13:48 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: so i think i'd rather not even move the image create before the vol snapshot | 13:49 |
| mriedem | since either could fail a quota check | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, leaving the order the same is probably a good idea, just to keep the API semantics the same | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, because either could fail | 13:49 |
| mriedem | yes i don't want to introduce some new weirdness we don't know about if we don't have to | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | but if we do vol snapshot first, then create image on glance failed on quota, that sounds waste. in the glance side, it just a db call. | 13:49 |
| mriedem | well, vol snapshot quota check in cinder should also be a db call, | 13:49 |
| mriedem | or do you mean, create image is a db call, then you still have to upload the data to glance | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: even if we don't move that, but sounds like we should have some rollback code for removing vol snaphsot when quota fail on glance? | 13:50 |
| mriedem | which you won't have to do if you fail the image create | 13:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | they could both fail for other reasons though, feels like we should fix that anyways | 13:50 |
| mriedem | we'd probably want that yeah | 13:51 |
| mriedem | right it sounds like a bug exposure today | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean treat it separately outside this spec, I guess | 13:51 |
| mriedem | we could test it by creating a volume-backed instance, set cinder snapshot quota to 0 and try to snapshot | 13:51 |
| mriedem | and make sure everything is cleaned up | 13:51 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: +1 - i think it's just a bug | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | ok, I can move that to a bug | 13:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, we have the rest of the spec, and a separate bug, to be clear | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | yes the rest of the spec is pretty clear | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu is going to double check the moving create image, then separate the spec to a spec and a bug | 13:53 |
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| alex_xu | ok, so let us go next one? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | yeah 6 min | 13:54 |
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| alex_xu | action: mriedem to follow up with gmann about testing swap-volume in tempest | 13:54 |
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| alex_xu | looks like we can't finish all the items today | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | gmann is out for awhile so i'll handle that tempest test, | 13:55 |
| mriedem | it just needs to move from scenario to api | 13:55 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to move swap volume test from scenario to api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299830/ | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: cool, thanks | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | action: sdague to start in on a capabilities spec | 13:56 |
| sdague | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377756/ | 13:56 |
| sdague | it's pretty early, but hopefully a reasonable starting point | 13:56 |
| alex_xu | yea, sounds like it is related to qualitative part of placement | 13:56 |
| sdague | the key thing I wanted to capture is that we're going to need a way to query *all* possible capabilities, as well as what's allowed on any particular resource | 13:57 |
| sdague | otherwise we'll be in versioning hell | 13:57 |
| alex_xu | +1 | 13:57 |
| sdague | I'm going to be out until the next meeting, so feedback there probably worth while | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | oops, I'm in holiday next week also | 13:58 |
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| sdague | there are a couple of good feedback points | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | do we still want to cancel this meeting next week? | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | oops, you mean out before the next meeting | 13:59 |
| sdague | one which is what degree of machine consumption vs. doc consumption we should end up with | 13:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I like the idea of ensuring we can see the full list of possible capabilities, to help with versioning, as you say | 13:59 |
| sdague | the other is about granularity, though I honestly think that's mostly a comes later | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | 1 mins left | 13:59 |
| sdague | granularity gets decided independently of the mechanism to expose I think | 13:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am quite keen on very course grained, to a human could understand things | 13:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | so a | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | so let us back to nova channel | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | thanks all | 14:00 |
| sdague | sure | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 14:00:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-28-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-28-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-28-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 15:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| zaneb | o/ | 15:01 |
| skraynev | o/ | 15:01 |
| spzala | o/ | 15:01 |
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| cwolferh | \o | 15:01 |
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| therve | Hey | 15:02 |
| ricolin | 0/ | 15:03 |
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| Drago | o/ | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-09-28_1500_UTC.29 | 15:04 |
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| ramishra | #topic stable:follows-policy tag | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/stable_follows-policy.html | 15:05 |
| ramishra | not sure who has added this. | 15:05 |
| zaneb | me | 15:05 |
| ramishra | I assume a patch to governance repo should do it, no? | 15:05 |
| zaneb | yes | 15:06 |
| ramishra | ok, I'll do that | 15:06 |
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| zaneb | it will help if we have a link to a meeting decision that this is definitely what we want | 15:06 |
| zaneb | I don't think it's controversial though, right? | 15:06 |
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| therve | Just confirming what we do already, you mean? :) | 15:07 |
| zaneb | therve: yeah | 15:07 |
| therve | +1 | 15:07 |
| zaneb | I guess there's a theoretical difference between "following it" and "agreeing to be bound by it" | 15:08 |
| ramishra | yeah, we are agreeing to do it from now on:) | 15:08 |
| zaneb | I'd also like to know why we have not been rated on "Existence and quality of packages for this project in popular distributions." | 15:08 |
| ramishra | zaneb: who can answer that question, tc? | 15:09 |
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| zaneb | no, it's the ops group | 15:09 |
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| zaneb | I'd also love to know exactly how many SDKs have to have support before you get a maturity tick there | 15:09 |
| zaneb | because honestly 7 feels like a lot | 15:09 |
| ramishra | ok, so we can drop a mail to them with the question? | 15:10 |
| zaneb | might be worth a try | 15:10 |
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| ramishra | ok | 15:11 |
| zaneb | make sure they give us a fair shake for newton | 15:11 |
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| zaneb | (we can move on :) | 15:11 |
| ramishra | yep | 15:11 |
| ramishra | #topic heat summit sessions | 15:11 |
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| therve | zaneb, https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/mitaka/components/glance 8 is enough apparently :) | 15:12 |
| ramishra | I've arranged the topics now on the etherpad | 15:12 |
| ramishra | we need more topics | 15:12 |
| zaneb | therve: so close! | 15:12 |
| ramishra | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat-sessions | 15:12 |
| ramishra | therve: I saw your forwarded mail and I also got a mail from magnum PTL yesterday. | 15:13 |
| ramishra | They want a joint session to discuss about some of the heat issues they are facing wrt heat scalability | 15:13 |
| ramishra | we have one session on performance and scalability, probably add another one? | 15:14 |
| therve | Yeah, we should do the usual "large stacks" session | 15:14 |
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| ramishra | anyway, we don't have enough sessions yet, so I'll add this one too. | 15:15 |
| ramishra | btw, we probably have add a little more to the descriptions of the topics:) | 15:16 |
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| ramishra | anyone has more topics, please propose them. We still have 3 more slots available. | 15:17 |
| ramishra | ok, moving on.. | 15:19 |
| ramishra | #topic gate failures | 15:19 |
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| ramishra | We are seeing large number of gate failures these few days. | 15:19 |
| ramishra | it seems mostly due to some external network connectivity issues. | 15:19 |
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| ramishra | so we were thinking of disabling some of the tests that use fedora image? any thoughts? | 15:20 |
| zaneb | no thoughts, but just a reminder to please tag gate failure bugs with 'gate-failure' so they end up in https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure | 15:21 |
| ramishra | zaneb: sure | 15:22 |
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| therve | ramishra, There are many tests using image_ref | 15:22 |
| therve | More than I thought | 15:22 |
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| therve | We should switch some of them to minimal first | 15:22 |
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| ramishra | therve: yeah, that why I was worried to disable all of them. | 15:23 |
| therve | ramishra, I don't think most of them need it | 15:23 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: I've added gate-failure tags to few of them just now. | 15:25 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah, probably we can change the tests where it's not needed first. | 15:26 |
| ramishra | and then look at disabling the ones left. | 15:26 |
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| ramishra | I was thinking of waiting for a response from the infra team before doing any test disable. | 15:27 |
| therve | We got one, not really encouraging :) | 15:27 |
| therve | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-September/004750.html | 15:28 |
| therve | Also <fungi> therve: sheer speculation, but if it's ipv4 then maybe we're overloading their pat (since that environment only has ipv6 for direct global connectivity) | 15:28 |
| fungi | yeah, we recently increased instance count significantly in that environment | 15:29 |
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| fungi | so it's possible we've put strain on their networks, and the nat they're using to provide ipv4 egress is a likely weak spot | 15:29 |
| therve | fungi, Should we try ipv6 mirror? | 15:30 |
| fungi | therve: do they have one for the fedora images? | 15:30 |
| therve | No idea | 15:30 |
| zaneb | fungi: it seems like sdague's suggestion of mirroring that image locally is a good one, though maybe not a short-term fix. wdyt? | 15:30 |
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| fungi | zaneb: we agreed during yesterday's infra meeting (in therve's absence) that it makes sense we just need whoever's going to implement the mirroring for arbitrary blobs to write up a very brief infra spec so we can work out the modekl | 15:31 |
| fungi | model | 15:31 |
| zaneb | fungi++ | 15:32 |
| fungi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-09-27-19.02.log.html#l-119 | 15:32 |
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| fungi | but in the near term, we're working with the operators for osic to see if we can figure out what's happening and then we'll either reduce our utilization there or they'll beef up whatever's overloaded | 15:33 |
| fungi | there's been ongoing discussion today in #openstack-infra about it | 15:33 |
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| therve | http://mirror.speedpartner.de/ seems to be ipv6, it's worth trying | 15:34 |
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| cloudnull | o/ if there's something i can help out with regarding OSIC issues please let me know. | 15:35 |
| fungi | cloudnull: you already have been | 15:35 |
| cloudnull | I was just lurking and figured i'd say hi. | 15:35 |
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| ramishra | fungi, cloudnull, thanks for joining the discussion | 15:37 |
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| ramishra | therve: will you propose a patch to use the specific mirror? | 15:38 |
| therve | ramishra, Yep let me do that | 15:38 |
| ramishra | therve: thanks! | 15:38 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 15:39 |
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| ramishra | anything else we want to discuss? | 15:40 |
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| therve | If anybody wants to look at memory consumption that'd be rad | 15:41 |
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| zaneb | yeah, I'm looking but not making much progress | 15:42 |
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| ramishra | do you have an understanding now, when memory consumption started moving up again for tripleo? | 15:44 |
| ramishra | from some of the discussions it looked to coincide with the days when conditions patches landed, though we can infer anything from that. | 15:45 |
| zaneb | I'm seeing a definite increase between http://logs.openstack.org/58/351358/1/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha/54cf4ea/logs/ and http://logs.openstack.org/40/359940/2/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha/f3c1ef5/logs/ which were both on 2016-08-25 and appear to use the same Heat build | 15:45 |
| zaneb | so my suspicion is that some change to the templates may have triggered it | 15:46 |
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| ramishra | yeah, we would need help from the tripleo team to resolve it. shardy does not seem to be online. | 15:49 |
| ramishra | if there is nothing else, we can move back to #heat | 15:50 |
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| ramishra | Thanks all for joining | 15:51 |
| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 15:51 |
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| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 15:52:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-09-28-15.00.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-09-28-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 16:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
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| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:00 |
| rhallisey | hello | 16:00 |
| zhubingbing | \o/ | 16:00 |
| egonzalez90 | o/ | 16:00 |
| hrito | o/ | 16:01 |
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| akwasnie | \o | 16:01 |
| caowei | hi | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:01 |
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| sdake | hey there folks ;) | 16:02 |
| lrensing | o/ | 16:02 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:02 |
| sbezverk | o/ | 16:02 |
| sdake | where be inc0 | 16:02 |
| inc0 | here | 16:02 |
| sdake | cool | 16:02 |
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| sdake | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
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| berendt | o/ | 16:02 |
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| sdake | as you are probably aware, inc0 is my successor as ptl - say grats ;) | 16:03 |
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| srwilkers | congrats inc0 | 16:03 |
| egonzalez90 | congrats inc0 !! | 16:03 |
| kfox1111 | contrats inc0! | 16:03 |
| inc0 | \o/ | 16:03 |
| duonghq | congratulation inc0 | 16:03 |
| lrensing | congrats! | 16:03 |
| inc0 | thank you all:) | 16:03 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: and thanks for all your hard work! :) | 16:03 |
| akwasnie | congratulations, Michał! | 16:03 |
| sdake | thanks kfox1111 | 16:04 |
| sdake | how the rest of this cycle will opertate is as follows | 16:04 |
| akwasnie | thank you Steven for your hard work! | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | woo | 16:04 |
| sdake | uring ptl transitions, typically at election time the successor ptl takes on rsponsibilities or summitand master | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | yay inc0 | 16:04 |
| sbezverk | congrats inc0! good sailing! | 16:04 |
| sdake | and my responsibility for newton stays in place | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | and ofcourse nice work sdake | 16:04 |
| sdake | thanks rhallisey | 16:05 |
| duonghq | thank steak for bootstrap kolla in 1st and 2nd cycle | 16:05 |
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| sdake | duonghq its been 3 years dude ;) | 16:05 |
| rhallisey | since Juno | 16:05 |
| sdake | so back on track | 16:05 |
| sdake | look to inc0 for leadership for master/summit/ocata/etc | 16:05 |
| sdake | look to both of us for 3.0.0 - as far as I'm concerned its a bit of a joint responsibiity | 16:06 |
| sdake | finally, I want to thank everyone in the community for supporting kolla | 16:06 |
| sdake | without you, kolla wouldn't exist | 16:06 |
| sdake | or would exist in vastly different ways | 16:06 |
| sdake | kolla has created a turning point for openstack | 16:06 |
| sdake | thats a good thing ;) | 16:07 |
| sdake | #chair inc0 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: inc0 sdake | 16:07 |
| sdake | ok inc0 - take it away | 16:07 |
| inc0 | ok:) thanks sdake! | 16:07 |
| sdake | also, i have a conflict right at this time, so I have to jet ;) | 16:07 |
| sdake | but i'll be back in 45-50 mins | 16:07 |
| inc0 | for all the hard work, I'll make sure to continue making kolla great, so we won't ever have to make it great again | 16:07 |
| rhallisey | ha | 16:07 |
| sdake | sbezverk also one point of clarificaiton, I am remaining on the core teeam going forward | 16:07 |
| inc0 | #topic rc2 | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | ok, rc2 means we branch stable/netwon and open master to Ocata | 16:08 |
| inc0 | this happends 10-13 Oct | 16:08 |
| sbezverk | sdake: not sure the reason of your comments to me, I had no doubt you would stays as core ;-) | 16:09 |
| inc0 | I'd like to target 10, but that depends on how many bugs and stuff we'll be able to fix | 16:09 |
| inc0 | or more importantly, how many will stay | 16:09 |
| inc0 | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-rc2 | 16:10 |
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| pbourke | o/ | 16:10 |
| wirehead_ | o/ | 16:10 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:10 |
| Daviey | Sorry, what is this for? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | take a look at this list, let's try to fix as much as we can in following 2 weeks | 16:10 |
| inc0 | Daviey, these are bugs outstanding in Kolla targeted for RC-2 | 16:11 |
| Daviey | Ah | 16:11 |
| inc0 | reviewers, please prioritize reviews as bug priority goes | 16:11 |
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| inc0 | besies that, we need lots of testing | 16:12 |
| inc0 | if there is any bug you feel is important to be fixed in N, shout out to any of cores and let's triage/target it to RC2 | 16:12 |
| inc0 | after that we release 3.0.0 | 16:12 |
| inc0 | we still will backport bugfixes to stable branch, but let's make sure release is solid | 16:13 |
| Daviey | Not just kolla, but i kinda feel a few bugs have been introduced in the last couple of weeks across OpenStack.. We really need to bash out testing hard | 16:13 |
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| pbourke | one point on this also, please do not merge any patches that are not high/critical for newton-2 | 16:13 |
| inc0 | especially take a look at our release notes and 1. test what's there, new features and 2. if you see any feature missing from release notes, put a patch up please | 16:14 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I asked sdake, and I'll ask you. right before cutting the final rc2, can you please let me know and I'll run some regression tests against kolla-kubernetes just to make sure we don't introduce any bugs last minute. | 16:14 |
| kfox1111 | we really need a gate test for that, and its in progress, but its kind of manual right now. :/ | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111, sure, be extra careful when you put any patch to kolla itself | 16:14 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, we don't have a release though | 16:15 |
| inc0 | also please test it out as much as you can yourself:) deployment and such of kolla-ansible with your patch | 16:15 |
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| kfox1111 | inc0: sure. | 16:15 |
| rhallisey | even though we depend on kolla, we can just go off master | 16:15 |
| rhallisey | well we have an N release | 16:15 |
| rhallisey | eh not really | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | rhallisey: yeah, but I think we want to make sure trunk kolla-kubernetes works with released kolla 3.0.0, | 16:15 |
| rhallisey | let's skip a release for N | 16:15 |
| rhallisey | make the first release O | 16:15 |
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| inc0 | rhallisey, but if some regression gets introduced due to kolla-k8s required changes before we branch out, it's gonna be critical | 16:16 |
| kfox1111 | as ocata is going to have a bunch of refactoring goin on to do the ansible split. | 16:16 |
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| kfox1111 | so we will want a stable target for a little while, which 3.0.0 can be. | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | that's find | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | fine | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | I think it would be a problem | 16:16 |
| inc0 | split will happen after we branch out stable | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | and issue we hit will likely be hit on the kolla side | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | amy* | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | any* | 16:16 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. so if we can target 3.0 and let the ansible split happen and settle out for a month or two, | 16:17 |
| kfox1111 | then we can retarget to trunk again and both parts can make progress. | 16:17 |
| rhallisey | sure that works | 16:17 |
| inc0 | bottom line everyone - extra careful testing | 16:17 |
| kfox1111 | +1. :) | 16:17 |
| inc0 | anyone wants to add anything? | 16:17 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, it's going to be a bump road :) | 16:17 |
| berendt | i think it makes sense to make the split in or a few days after barcelona | 16:17 |
| wirehead_ | Even knowing "Hey, this worked in rc2 but broke" is going to eliminate wasted effort. | 16:17 |
| inc0 | berendt, I'll talk with infra folks to make it seamless | 16:18 |
| kfox1111 | berendt: hard to say... some advantage to getting it done before the summit so folks wont keep talking about it then. | 16:18 |
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| rhallisey | kfox1111, interesting opinion. Either way works for me | 16:18 |
| berendt | kfox1111 makes sense | 16:18 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, decision has been made, when we branch it out is just a workload issue | 16:18 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 16:19 |
| inc0 | it might require some git magic to retain history | 16:19 |
| inc0 | anyway, moving on | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | inc0, could be worth disccusing over beers or something our process for that | 16:19 |
| inc0 | #topic summit session schedule | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | So thank you for answers in poll | 16:19 |
| inc0 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-o-summit-schedule I took liberty of copying all the sessions from poll in order of votes | 16:20 |
| inc0 | we have total of 9 design session (WR in etherpad) and 3 fishbowl | 16:20 |
| Daviey | inc0: I quite wanted a session about version numbering... I think there is potentially enough content to cover most of a session at least | 16:20 |
| * britthouser is late | 16:20 | |
| britthouser | 0/ | 16:20 |
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| inc0 | as you can see, I didn't follow poll results 100%, also took liberty of adding 2 more sessions to the list, one about deprecation and stuff and second session for kolla-k8s | 16:21 |
| inc0 | Daviey, we always have contributor meetup and beer track, we can discuss then too | 16:22 |
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| rhallisey | Daviey, a doc for that would be awesome. Agreed though | 16:22 |
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| inc0 | so this is what I'm going to propose unless somebody is opposed to these ideas, so shoot away | 16:22 |
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| inc0 | or if somebody have question regarding this schedule, please ask | 16:23 |
| britthouser | I was really hoping for baremetal to make the list | 16:23 |
| britthouser | it was nearly in the top9, and its a pretty new feature we just added. | 16:23 |
| inc0 | britthouser, yes, although I'm not sure what we should talk about there | 16:24 |
| berendt | that we do not work on monitoring is not good | 16:24 |
| inc0 | ok, fact that we're not doing session doesn't mean we don't work on it | 16:24 |
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| berendt | yes of course, but i think it needs a wr.. | 16:25 |
| inc0 | sessions are for things we need to discuss, are contentious, aren't clear | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | we can cover some of these topics in the roadmapping | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | I think the roadmapping session will be a bit open | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | we can also have backup topics of one of those topics don't use the whole time | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | but I bet they will :) | 16:25 |
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| berendt | what is the focus of Security VMT threat? | 16:26 |
| inc0 | berendt, so VMT is a team in OpenStack | 16:26 |
| berendt | yes.. but what will we do in the wr? | 16:26 |
| inc0 | they started to analyze our projecxt in Austin | 16:26 |
| inc0 | they will come to us and work with us to finish up this analyze | 16:26 |
| berendt | ok | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | I wanted to keep it on schedule even tho it was pretty low in poll, because it's good to have them locally to finish up this work and get us vulnerability-managed tag | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | ya it's good to get that tag | 16:28 |
| berendt | yes that makes sense | 16:28 |
| inc0 | Monitoring and Bare metal were ones that I thought are extremally important, but not much to discuss really (if you don't agree, do tell) | 16:28 |
| inc0 | we have both features in Kolla in N, we need to fix it up, gather feedback and such | 16:28 |
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| inc0 | but what are questions we need to answer on sessions? | 16:29 |
| berendt | i think the schedule is fine. we have to cover a lot of topics... | 16:29 |
| berendt | for monitoring e.g. which monitoring tool we want to use, if we want to keep telegraf, ... | 16:29 |
| inc0 | we always have couple unassigned hours in Friday | 16:29 |
| britthouser | I guess my thought as far as baremetal goes, is since its a new feature - go over what was done, get some feedback, discuss next steps, etc. maybe that can be rolled into roadmap though? | 16:30 |
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| britthouser | Yeah I think pencil it in for friday is fine with me. | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | britthouser, ya agreed | 16:30 |
| inc0 | britthouser, so what I'm sayin is that I doubt there will be much feedback to get | 16:30 |
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| rhallisey | there may not be, but we could talk about what to do next or somethign | 16:31 |
| * rhallisey hasn't used it yet | 16:31 | |
| britthouser | ccccccfnnvlltgvvfcrllgbgthlhnubclilhbjeeciig | 16:31 |
| inc0 | sure, so let's discuss what to drop for bare metal then | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | anyway there will be plenty of *open time* | 16:31 |
| britthouser | ccccccfnnvllfnvhltlffkhbnddgijcdhvntfgbvnfjv | 16:31 |
| berendt | we voted and i think we should go with this schedule | 16:31 |
| inc0 | lol | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | inc0, nah keep the schedule | 16:31 |
| berendt | we can discuss other topics on friday | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | inc0, let's have baremetal and monitoring be the #1 and #2 backup topics | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | we | 16:32 |
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| britthouser | +1 | 16:32 |
| inc0 | ok, so let's keep it for now, we don't need to submit it just now, so it still is open to slight changes (slight please) | 16:32 |
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| rhallisey | it will be apart of the *beer summit* | 16:32 |
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| inc0 | ok, moving on | 16:33 |
| inc0 | #topic deprecation | 16:33 |
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| inc0 | so I wanted to move this topic in summit, hence my addition to schedule | 16:33 |
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| inc0 | we decided to deprecate fedora in N and keep debian in | 16:34 |
| sbezverk | inc0: how about deprication of heka? | 16:34 |
| inc0 | (can someone please take action item to add warning during build if fedora then deprecated?) | 16:34 |
| inc0 | heka is another thing | 16:34 |
| berendt | inc0 already did it | 16:34 |
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| inc0 | oh thank you | 16:34 |
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| berendt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369184/ | 16:35 |
| inc0 | so here is thing, I'd like to put some sort of process behind decisions like that | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | it might be as simple as documentation matrix of "what has CI and is super supported and what is not" | 16:35 |
| inc0 | as distros and services goes | 16:35 |
| inc0 | heka is different matter, let's talk about it after that | 16:36 |
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| britthouser | I would use the word “maintained” instead of supported, but that sounds like a good idea | 16:36 |
| sbezverk | ok, but we will talk right ;-) | 16:36 |
| inc0 | yes, agree britthouser | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | yes sbezverk thanks for bringing it up | 16:36 |
| portdirect | hi, sorry I've been away and just noticed this was going on :/ | 16:37 |
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| britthouser | and then have some rule, if bugs against that distro aren’t worked on in X months, then vote to deprecate. something along those lines? | 16:37 |
| inc0 | it will be more complicated than this | 16:37 |
| inc0 | for example for distros we might require CI, but RHEL, although maintained and healthy won't have CI for license reasons | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | how about some distro is out of maintain for 1-2 cycle. | 16:38 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, what I mean is how do we define "maintain" | 16:38 |
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| inc0 | anyway, I don't expect us to answer it today | 16:38 |
| britthouser | Yeah…I think we can work out that definition at summit. | 16:38 |
| inc0 | just wanted to throw an idea for you to think about | 16:39 |
| inc0 | and make a call at summit | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok | 16:39 |
| britthouser | +1 | 16:39 |
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| berendt | we also need this defintion also for services, not only for distros | 16:39 |
| inc0 | I get lots of questions like "do you support ironic", answer is yes, but we'd lie if we'd say that we have same level of quality across every service we have | 16:39 |
| inc0 | berendt, totally agree | 16:39 |
| berendt | at the moment we do not have a CI for most of our services, this has to be changed | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | I don't think we'll ever reach a spot when we'll have CI for everything we can deploy, Big tent is growing all the time | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | ci is one of the most thing we need set up in O cycle. | 16:40 |
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| britthouser | +100 | 16:40 |
| inc0 | but we can just say openly what has CI and what doesn't | 16:40 |
| berendt | +infinity ;) | 16:40 |
| egonzalez90 | +1 | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | CI is in summit, agree totally;) | 16:41 |
| inc0 | ok, moving on | 16:41 |
| inc0 | #topic heka | 16:41 |
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| inc0 | sbezverk, can you please describe issue to everyone? | 16:41 |
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| inc0 | ok, I'll do it:) https://github.com/mozilla-services/heka | 16:43 |
| inc0 | if you click the link there is big DEPRECATED work in the title | 16:43 |
| inc0 | that's bad. | 16:43 |
| inc0 | we need to look for alternatives | 16:43 |
| berendt | logstash | 16:43 |
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| britthouser | nuts! | 16:43 |
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| wirehead_ | Well, the promise for Hekka was that you'd get one fancy foofy daemon to do logs and metrics and alerts. | 16:43 |
| kfox1111 | I think logstash is deprectated too in preference to filebeat? | 16:44 |
| wirehead_ | As opposed to logstash + monitoring + metrics. | 16:44 |
| kfox1111 | fluentd's an option too. | 16:44 |
| berendt | s/logstash/filebeat/... | 16:44 |
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| berendt | let's open a blueprint "replace-heka"..? | 16:45 |
| duonghq | +1 berendt | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | how about "kill-heka"? | 16:45 |
| inc0 | I'll write the bp | 16:45 |
| wirehead_ | This is that intersection between the modern notion of a "12 factor app" and the way that OpenStack presently is. From the Kolla-kube world, I'm kinda a bigger fan of not using a logging daemon inside of the contaienr at all. | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:45 |
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| berendt | because we use elasticsearch for our logs i think it makes sense to go with them... | 16:45 |
| inc0 | #action inc0 to write kill-heka bp | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | inc0, hehe | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | wirehead_, 12 factor app is ideal and reality is not. | 16:46 |
| berendt | what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375615/7 ? | 16:46 |
| sbezverk | fluentd | 16:46 |
| britthouser | So are there things that we need for Heka to change, and we wont’ get those changes? | 16:46 |
| berendt | i think it makes no sense to replace heka by something and to add fluentd as well | 16:46 |
| britthouser | or Heka works fine as is, but we don’t want to be on a dead code? | 16:46 |
| sbezverk | we already used fluentd in kolla-kubernetes | 16:46 |
| sbezverk | why not to have more things in common than different ;-) | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | sbezverk, link to you fluentd patch?? | 16:47 |
| inc0 | also don't forget we'll need upgrade procedure for it | 16:47 |
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| rhallisey | there could be multiple ones here | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | with the way kolla lays out its log files, | 16:47 |
| sbezverk | https://review.openstack.org/375615 | 16:47 |
| britthouser | I guess what I’m asking is, is heka broken today? or just a dead-end? | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | it really shouldn't matter if you use a heka container, or fluentd, or filebeat to do the uploading. | 16:47 |
| pbourke | britthouser: dead end | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | dead end | 16:47 |
| inc0 | anyway, bp will be essential in Ocata, if somebody feel like taking it, we can discuss pros and cons of alternatives | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | no one maintain the heka's code | 16:47 |
| rhallisey | ok if it's a dead end how about we leave it and provide an upgrade path | 16:48 |
| britthouser | Ok good to know. So its not hair of fire, but the sooner we make a u-turn the better. | 16:48 |
| Daviey | sdake: Just reading scrollback... RH *could* do 3rd-party-ci, if they cared to test kolla. | 16:48 |
| inc0 | but it does work so it's not *that* bad | 16:48 |
| berendt | heka has to be dropped, i think this has not to be discusses | 16:48 |
| wirehead_ | Security patches, etc. | 16:48 |
| rhallisey | they don't support it so let's not in the upcoming cycle | 16:48 |
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| inc0 | Daviey, well, 3rd party ci is more than just code | 16:48 |
| inc0 | so let's not put them on the line | 16:49 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. I think the discussion is not about keepign heka alive. just what to replace it with. | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | berendt, +1 the really concern is which we choose. | 16:49 |
| inc0 | we would need, however, call that one out | 16:49 |
| Daviey | inc0: I mean, if we wanted to have RH as a flavour we supported.. it could be 3rd party | 16:49 |
| inc0 | but not having 3rd party ci shouldn't make them deprecated | 16:49 |
| Daviey | Yes it should :) | 16:49 |
| Daviey | If it isn't tested, we have to assume it doesn't wrk | 16:49 |
| Daviey | work* | 16:50 |
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| inc0 | so we might create something in between, like we have it, we think it works but not really tested by our CI | 16:50 |
| inc0 | anyway, session on summit, we need to call these things out | 16:50 |
| Daviey | that way leads to madness | 16:50 |
| berendt | can we finish the heka discussion first? | 16:50 |
| inc0 | lots of moving parts | 16:50 |
| kfox1111 | you could say its vendor supported, if thats the case? | 16:50 |
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| britthouser | we’re on to a different topic Daviey, and we decided to define all that at summit | 16:50 |
| inc0 | berendt, sure, sorry | 16:50 |
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| inc0 | ok, back to heka | 16:50 |
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| Daviey | We are sticking with heka for Newton, right(!?) | 16:50 |
| inc0 | I'm just going to propose bp, think of alternatives | 16:50 |
| inc0 | we do | 16:51 |
| inc0 | Neutron is done, only bugfixes | 16:51 |
| berendt | what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375615? | 16:51 |
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| inc0 | heka goes away in mitaka | 16:51 |
| berendt | i would prefer to -2 this one until we have a decision | 16:51 |
| inc0 | we might however mark it as deprecated | 16:51 |
| inc0 | done berendt | 16:51 |
| berendt | inc0 we should mark it as deprecated right now, i think we do not need a mailing list vote for this deprecation | 16:51 |
| inc0 | berendt, I think we don't need to vote | 16:52 |
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| inc0 | so yes, let's mark is as deprecated now | 16:52 |
| berendt | inc0 do you add a deprecation release note after opening the blueprint ? | 16:52 |
| sbezverk | inc0: I filed bp centralized-logging which could be used for logging discussion activities | 16:52 |
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| berendt | sbezverk centralized logging bp makes no sense because we already have centralized logging | 16:52 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sbezverk, yes that name is confused. | 16:53 |
| sbezverk | Jeffrey4l ok that can be changed | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | let's move on? next topic? | 16:53 |
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| berendt | sbezverk but this bp is not correct.. you wrote "bp to track activities around introducing fluentd as a replacement of heka in kolla" | 16:54 |
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| inc0 | I'll publish new bp | 16:54 |
| berendt | sbezverk we have not yet decided to use fluentd... | 16:54 |
| inc0 | about heka | 16:54 |
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| Jeffrey4l | kill-heka is nice ;) | 16:54 |
| inc0 | and yes, I'd also would like to have some alternatives before we jump to fluentd | 16:54 |
| sbezverk | berendt: but we are :-) it is already running in kolla-kubernetes | 16:54 |
| sbezverk | and we need that image in kolla, if kolla continues provide us images | 16:54 |
| berendt | sbezverk but this does not mean that you need an ansible role for it, right? | 16:55 |
| inc0 | sbezverk, berendt I'd love to have same logging architecture in both kollas:) | 16:55 |
| inc0 | but let's make this educated decision | 16:55 |
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| inc0 | even if this means changing it in kolla-k8s | 16:55 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: that is my point exactly why complicates things if we can have somehting common | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | sbezverk, i think kolla can provide fluentd image. But Kolla may not use fluentd for collection logs. | 16:56 |
| berendt | yes but we have to discuss it first... we use E and K at the moment and they have there own tool | 16:56 |
| sbezverk | Jeffrey4l: and that is perfectly fine at least for now | 16:56 |
| berendt | sbezverk yes.. but your review provides docker + ansible.. | 16:56 |
| sbezverk | berendt: you do not have to use it | 16:56 |
| inc0 | ok, hold on. We acknowledged problem, we discuss it now | 16:56 |
| sbezverk | it does not hart to have it right? | 16:57 |
| inc0 | so let's first gather alternatives | 16:57 |
| berendt | sbezverk it does, we have to maintain it | 16:57 |
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| inc0 | I've heard at least 2 - fluentd and filebeat | 16:57 |
| berendt | why should we implement an ansible role for fluentd when we decide to use filebeat? | 16:57 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sbezverk, please split the docker file and ansible playbook. | 16:57 |
| sbezverk | Jeffrey4l: sure will do that | 16:57 |
| inc0 | let's see if there is anything else, weigth pros and cons and push patches up when we make a decision | 16:57 |
| inc0 | and ideally both kolla-ansible and kolla-k8s should have same logging stack | 16:58 |
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| Jeffrey4l | inc0, agreed | 16:58 |
| inc0 | we have whole release to sort this out | 16:58 |
| berendt | does kolla-k8s uses elasticsearch and kibana? | 16:58 |
| sbezverk | yes | 16:58 |
| rhallisey | yar | 16:58 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, I think we ran out of time | 16:58 |
| inc0 | sorry:( | 16:58 |
| Daviey | inc0: I wanted to squeeze in before the end of the meeting..... the performance monitoring stack seems to be in a sad state and not ready for release. Is anyone else looking at it? | 16:58 |
| rhallisey | no worries | 16:58 |
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| inc0 | we can overflow to our channel | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | imho, there is no alternative for elasticsearch and kibana | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | sure | 16:59 |
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| rhallisey | what topics are left? | 16:59 |
| sbezverk | Jeffrey4l +1 | 16:59 |
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| inc0 | Daviey, what do you mean? | 16:59 |
| berendt | timeout... | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | I'll quickly type kolla-kube update: | 16:59 |
| inc0 | ok, we ran out of time:) | 16:59 |
| inc0 | Daviey, let's talk on #openstac-kolla | 16:59 |
| Daviey | -> #openstack-kolla | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | ya let's jump over | 16:59 |
| inc0 | thank you guys! I wanted to thank you again for your trust in me:) | 16:59 |
| inc0 | and votes | 17:00 |
| britthouser | +1 inc0 :smiley: | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | woot for kolla? | 17:00 |
| inc0 | thanks Ryan. ofc woot for kolla please:) | 17:00 |
| inc0 | woot:) | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | you promised! | 17:00 |
| egonzalez90 | woot!! | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | :) | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | woot :) | 17:00 |
| duonghq | woot!! | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | woot! | 17:00 |
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| sdake | wh00000000t | 17:00 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 17:00:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-28-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-28-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-28-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| lrensing | :) woot | 17:00 |
| berendt | sdake just in time ;) | 17:00 |
| sdake | ya my meeting just ended | 17:01 |
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