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| sigmavirus | rosmaita: nikhil ping | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | whoa | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | time flies | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | i think nikhil is traveling today | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 14:01:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:01 |
| dharinic | o/ | 14:01 |
| abashmak | o/ | 14:01 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | louis! | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | mike! | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | hey :) | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | sorry, I'm late | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | np, you haven't missed anything yet | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | hopefully a few more people will wander in | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
| Jokke_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | erno! | 14:03 |
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| tsymanczyk | maybe free donuts would attract more people | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | i am setting a bad precedent by not greeting the people who were on time | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | free virtual donuts! | 14:04 |
| tsymanczyk | ooooo | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #topic releases | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | RC2 is out (a day early!). | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | Thanks to sigmavirus (Ian) and Jokke (Erno) for their work reviewing, etc. | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | And thanks to hemanthm (Hemanth) for quick work on a security-related fix that got in. | 14:05 |
| tsymanczyk | nice work! | 14:05 |
| Jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | I've noticed a lot of TrivialFix kind of patches up, let's please wait to merge any of those until *next week*. | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | Let's keep the gate unclogged as a courtesy to other teams while the rest of the RCs are being cut. | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | so reviewers, feel free to -1 workflow on any of those | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | The official date for the Newton release is 6 Oct (one week from today) | 14:06 |
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| rosmaita | the only thing left are some doc changes to deprecate v1 and indicate the v2 minor version bump | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | i will be bugging people to review those patches | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | would like to have the docs ready for 6 Oct | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me ... questions? | 14:08 |
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| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving on, then | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #topic import refactor | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "import refactor (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
| rosmaita | I want to get a sync started, like we've been doing for community images | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | This will be a 20 minute or so weekly meeting to help build momentum | 14:10 |
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| rosmaita | Anyone interested, please indicate your availability: | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #link http://doodle.com/poll/xc3ip9263bq5rmbh | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | The sync will be in #openstack-glance, everyone can follow along, even if you are only casually interested | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok, timothy's turn | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | #topic community images | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "community images (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:12 | |
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| rosmaita | before he says anything though | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | there are patches up, please review! | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, tsymanczyk , all yours | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | indeed. two pieces of good news today. | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369110/25 | 14:12 |
| Jack | Hello all. first time here, wondering if we have audio in this meeting? | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | Jack: nope, just typing and reading | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | the first patchset is done as well as i can make it without feedback. | 14:13 |
| Jack | Ok, thanks | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | so please review, please be harsh. quality is all i care about | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | and secondly : the biggest outstanding problem that there WAS is how in the heck to (as well as possible) keep v1 backwards compatible while still allowing the new functionality with v2 | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | and i think it's much much simpler than i had been worried about | 14:14 |
| tsymanczyk | the reason that it seems difficult is because of a misunderstanding that "public" and "private" are the two old visibility states, and that "Shared" and "community" are the two new states | 14:14 |
| tsymanczyk | BUT (and here's my theory, feedback please) | 14:14 |
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| tsymanczyk | in reality, is_public==true is indeed public, but is_public==false is actually shared | 14:14 |
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| tsymanczyk | so when we migrate old to new, we don't set everything is_public=false to private we set it to shared | 14:15 |
| tsymanczyk | which retains the old behaviour | 14:15 |
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| tsymanczyk | shared with no members IS effectively private, and members can be added with no additional steps beyond the add | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | interesting | 14:15 |
| tsymanczyk | then if we continue that idea, and have v1 set visibility=shared when doing a set to is_public=false, then ... unless i'm missing something... we basically get everything we want. | 14:15 |
| tsymanczyk | the really confusing thing though that i'm worried about is that people are going to ... perhaps legitimately... get spooked when they migrate to the new database and see that all their old non-public images are now SHARED | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i need to think about that some more | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | even though that doesn't change their real-world visibility | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | yes, that was my concern | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | rosmaita : please do | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | i've been chewing it over for about a day and every angle i've looked at makes it seem correcet | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | but if there are problems i'd love to see them | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita to think about tsymanczyk 's idea and discuss at sync tomorrow | 14:17 |
| tsymanczyk | right now this looks to me to be a clean way to solve it. | 14:17 |
| tsymanczyk | we just need to make the documentation clear | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:17 |
| tsymanczyk | that SHARED doesn't mean ... EVERYONE CAN SEE MY STUPID BROKEN IMAGE | 14:17 |
| tsymanczyk | i think i'm done | 14:17 |
| tsymanczyk | would love any questions or feedback now or later on today or during tomorrows sync (9am pst) | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | my mind is blown | 14:18 |
| tsymanczyk | :) | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | we get counterintuitive results no matter what we do, so it's really a matter of picking the one that makes the most sense | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | that's the end of the "official" updates | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #topic cross-project liasons | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cross-project liasons (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:19 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #action everyone - look at that page and update your name appropriately before nex glance meeting on 6 Oct | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | what do i mean by "update appropriately"? | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | glad you asked | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | here are the expectations for a cross project liason | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | 1 - must attend the other project's weekly meeting | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | actually, i guess that's it. key thing is attendance | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | in the past, you've had to be a core to do this, but i am going to loosen that up | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | but we need to get the page updated before new people can sign up | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | but if you are on there already, and want to continue, that's fine | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | well, here's another thing | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | 2 - must represent glance at the other team's meeting | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | what i mean is, if something that could impact glance comes up, please put it in *our* agenda and report back to the team | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | if the other team has a question, and you aren't sure about the answer, just tell them you will consult with the glance team and get back to them at the next meeting | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | the requirement to have only cores was so that other teams would get instant answers | 14:23 |
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| rosmaita | but i don't see the harm in having them wait one week for a definitive answer | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | it wlll allow us to have more c-p representatives | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | anyway | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | the action item is to look at the page, if your name is there, decide if you are willing to do (1) and (2) | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | if not, please remove your name before 6 Oct | 14:24 |
| * abashmak is thinking about picking a project whose weekly meeting is held later than 7am MST | 14:24 | |
| stevelle | :D | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | any criterion you like! | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | being a cross-project liason is important, we need to keep informed about stuff affecting glance | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and glance affecting other projects | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | the changes to image sharing are going to affect openstack client for sure | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so we need to keep other teams informed as well | 14:26 |
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| rosmaita | this will be a great opportunity for people who want to eventually be glance cores | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | plus, virtual donuts to all! | 14:26 |
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| rosmaita | not sure i got the action item in | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | #action all current cross-project liasons -- please decide if you want to continue and update the page | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | any comments, questions? | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | it is awful quiet in here | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving along | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | #topic Feedback for Item 4 on last week's agenda | 14:29 |
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| Jokke_ | Also for any new folks for OpenStack wiki, feel free to ping us if you need something changed. I think the new wiki account creation is still frizen | 14:29 |
| Jokke_ | frozen even | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: correct | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: good point | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | and that's a good segue into this next topic | 14:30 |
| Jokke_ | I have at least account, please anyone else put your hands up as well ;) | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | i have one too, though haven't used it recently | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | with the wiki locked down, nikhil proposed that we include an events page in the dev docs | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366923/ | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | then to make an announcement, you put up a patch | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | and since reviews happen so quickly, it will be faster than the wiki | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | so i don't know how i feel about this idea | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | anyone have feedback or alternatives? | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: uhm, I don't like that | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | I don't like using the wiki for it either | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | Although | 14:33 |
| * rosmaita is waiting for spammers to start putting up viagra patches | 14:33 | |
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| sigmavirus | I guess we can put event info in those docs and then blast the ML with them | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, i think that was the idea | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: couldn't we also use the openstack blog(s) for this kind of stuff? | 14:33 |
| Jokke_ | I think the biggest problem with that approach is that it needs maintenance and before agreeing to do something like that, I'd like to see who is gonna maintain it | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: we (the community) are :D | 14:34 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: my point exactly | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: don' know about the openstack blog | 14:34 |
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| hemanthm | I think Nikhil it's more for us to keep log of what happening during those meetings | 14:34 |
| hemanthm | not entirely for announcing the events | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | part of nikhil's idea was to keep a record of what glance has been doing | 14:34 |
| hemanthm | like keeping the etherpads from past events | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | (basically what hemanthm said) | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | but less ephemeral | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | got it | 14:35 |
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| Jokke_ | rosmaita: that's why these meetings are logged | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | I was thinking that the documentation is a bad way of announcing things | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | but, pipermail is also an archive | 14:35 |
| Jokke_ | and our channel is logged and mailing list is archived | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | for ML postings | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | what Jokke_ | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: right | 14:35 |
| hemanthm | Jokke_: yes, but hard to discover | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | though maybe not so easy to search | 14:35 |
| Jokke_ | do we really need another source of truth | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: we need a web of truth ;) | 14:36 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: yeah, like internet. Everything written there is true, right! | 14:36 |
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| Jokke_ | so perhaps we should use the #command like #info here more to document these things without needing to read hours of irc logs | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | well i think the idea is: | 14:38 |
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| rosmaita | 1 - #info at weekly meeting | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | 2 - patch | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus | patch with link to eavesdrop.o.o? | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | 3 - ML announce with link to (what? doc or patch) | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | 4 - etherpad during the event | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus | That seems like a lot of process | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | yeah, and i am forgetting 5 and 6 | 14:39 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: ++ | 14:39 |
| sigmavirus | We're already bad at other processes that take more than 2 steps in this community | 14:39 |
| sigmavirus | Why would we add another process with > 2 steps? | 14:39 |
| Jokke_ | unless we can automate steps 2+ | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | well, we *are* sort of doing this already | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | without the doc patch | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | we probably could but people don't always appreciate auto-generated emails | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | i mean, announce here, on ML, create etherpad | 14:40 |
| Jokke_ | rosmaita: and on that, normally the etherpad is already either totally ignored or forgotten after 2hrs | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | ok, i am sensing opposition to this idea | 14:41 |
| * rosmaita is very sensitive | 14:41 | |
| stevelle | it's the midochlorians | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:41 |
| Jokke_ | yeah I'm pretty much with sigmavirus on this ... smells like heavy process for how bad we are already with processes | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok, no point having a vote, you can comment on the patch, so sigmavirus and Jokke_ , please do | 14:42 |
| Jokke_ | also I kind of dislike the noise that will bring to the reviews as well | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | #action sigmavirus Jokke_ comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366923/ | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | also, anyone who likes the idea, feel free to commnet on that patch | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | we can move the discussion over there | 14:43 |
| hemanthm | what's the alternative though? | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | alternative is just do what we do now | 14:43 |
| Jokke_ | yeah irc, ml, profit | 14:43 |
| hemanthm | there's gotta be a better way to keep relevant historical context | 14:44 |
| hemanthm | but I don't have a solution yet :/ | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm: i agree | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | and i should say, thanks to nikhil for getting this discussion started | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | maybe someone will be inspired to come up with a good solution | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | ok moving along | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | #topic Design summit planning | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design summit planning (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:45 | |
| rosmaita | The votes have been cast, so thanks to everyone who voted. | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | but | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | the key question right now is: only 3 people have indicated that they are attending the summit | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | which will be quite cozy, but it does affect the discussion ... like for instance if no one working on rolling upgrades will be there, then maybe it is kind of pointless to have that session (even though it got the most votes) | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | so | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | #action everyone - indicate if you will be at the summit on the etherpad | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-glance-summit-planning | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | that being said | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | my informal interactions are indicating that there won't be a lot of glance people in Barcelona | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | so i think we should plan to have a virtual design summit as we have done in the past | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | but please let's get a likely headcount to help pick physical topics | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | that didn't come out quite right, but hopefully you know what i mean | 14:48 |
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| hemanthm | +1 to virtual design summit | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok, i just added a place for people interested in a virtual summit to indicate interest | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | so please do | 14:50 |
| tsymanczyk | the virtual summit is going to coincide with the actual-summit session i assume? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | no, it will be non-concurrent | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | it has been really hard to get virtual attendance at an actual design summit session | 14:51 |
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| Jokke_ | I'm starting to think that the virtual summit is likely more hurting us in long term than benefitting | 14:51 |
| tsymanczyk | fair enough. no point in making the fallback option difficult. | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: why is that? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | i guess i should be more clear about what i'm thinking | 14:53 |
| Jokke_ | rosmaita: well for example what you just said that the number of attendees are declining. Could that be because of companies thinking "We don't need to send our glance folks to summit as they can always participate to the virtual planning even anyways" | 14:53 |
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| Jokke_ | s/even/event/ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: very possibly, but that doesn't matter for Barcelona, travel has already been approved/denied | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | but i do see your point | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | gives companies an excuse not to send people | 14:55 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: I don't think at least my employer makes decisions that way | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | though, hopefully they will send more people to the PTG in february | 14:55 |
| sigmavirus | summit attendance here is based on role in project & whether or not someone is speaking | 14:55 |
| sigmavirus | (also whether or not they actually want to travel to the summit) | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | my idea is that the virtual summit doesn't need to cover the same exact topics as the physical summit | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | though maybe that is dumb | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | i welcome feedback | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | anyway, if there is enough interest in virtual summit, i will set up a doodle poll for format and scheduling | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | probably 2 different polls | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | and we will need to try out some communication options | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | to pick something | 14:57 |
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| rosmaita | ok, please update the etherpad | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | #topic general discussion | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:58 | |
| rosmaita | 1 minute left | 14:59 |
| abashmak | I'd like to ask people to weigh in on the Alembic Migration proposal: https://review.openstack.org/374278 | 14:59 |
| tsymanczyk | okayquickoneminuteforopendiscussion | 14:59 |
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| abashmak | ... and on our Rolling Upgrades Database strategy: https://review.openstack.org/331740 | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | #action everyone follow abashmak 's suggestions | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, 10 seconds | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 15:00:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-29-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-29-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-09-29-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
| Jokke_ | thanks | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 15:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| yingjun | o/ | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | morning folks | 15:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:00 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Newton release status | 15:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton release status (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:01 | |
| sjmc7 | the RC2 tag just got approved | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | rosmaita: the api-ref doc made it in, so thankyou! | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | yay! | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: thanks to RickA-HP , sjmc7 , and TravT | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | barring any earth-shattering bugs anyone finds, that’ll be the final RC | 15:02 |
| TravT | \o/ | 15:02 |
| RickA-HP | I guess I can go back to sleep now! | 15:02 |
| TravT | It is pretty awesome to finally have a 1.0! | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | yes! we fixed loads of issues this cycle, so thanks everyone for the hard work | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | master’s open for business on Ocata and we’ll be back to reviewing stuff more frequently again | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | moving on… | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Ocata features | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata features (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:04 | |
| rosmaita | i've got 2 api-ref related issues to mention | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | oh, ok - go ahead | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | sorry | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | i need to slow my roll :) | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so probably need a patch to say version 1.0 CURRENT somewhere | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | will have to look at some of the other api-ref to see where | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | on master? | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | and then a patch to api-site to include the Search API in the list of api-refs | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: yeah, the published docs are all from master | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i should familiarise myself with how that works | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | this patch is similar to what needs to happen for the api-site: | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374978/ | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | ok, will take a look | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | the docs are a weird situation | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | the "live" ones on the openstack.org are all published from master | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i can do another patch like that, or let someone else do it to see what's up | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | and i can consult | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | (that's all from me, sorry for interrupting) | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | i should probably do it so i know what’s going on | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | no, interrupt away :) | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | it’s getting cold, my fingers get creaky in the winter so someone else typing is good :) | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: just ping me in irc, i can show you the publishing job and also what to do about this patch | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | okey doke | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | for Ocata: the only two big-ish things i know about are the ironic patch and the publisher/pipeline architectural change | 15:09 |
| TravT | might want to #topic that | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | if anybody has any feature requests or desires, either file a BP or bring it up in the meetings or IRC | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | it’s good if we can get stuff added before the summit since the summit comes pretty far into the development cycle | 15:11 |
| TravT | the glare guys ativelkov and mike fedosin had reached out to us and were interested | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | about Glare? | 15:11 |
| TravT | yeah, doing a glare plugin... | 15:11 |
| TravT | gb21 had expressed interest in working with them... | 15:11 |
| Kevin_Zheng | cool | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | ok. that’ll be interesting given their data model | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll maybe get in touch with them once the newton rush has died down | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | hey | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | oh, even better :) | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | hi mike! | 15:12 |
| ativelkov | o/ %) | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | yeah, I work with Geetika | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | Gb21 | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | ok, great | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | we had several questions about glare plugin implementation | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | let us know if you need any additional help | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | because we have dynamic structure for artifacts | 15:13 |
| mfedosin | but Travis's already told me how to cope with it | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | splendid! | 15:13 |
| mfedosin | I think I'll stop by in your irc channel tomorrow | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | if you want to put up a proof of concept patch so we can look at the approach, that’d be fine, doesn’t need to be complete | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, please do | 15:14 |
| ativelkov | BTW, we are probably going to have a searclite plugin for murano as well | 15:14 |
| mfedosin | when I hava more concrete questions | 15:14 |
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| sjmc7 | ah, that’d be good to ativelkov | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | too | 15:14 |
| ativelkov | we are adding metadef support right now. Once it lands, will think about indexint it | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | ok. yeah, just let us know. early in the cycle is definitely better, especially given Ocata’s a shorter one | 15:15 |
| mfedosin | thanks folks, SL is really amazing project that suppose to make our life easier :) | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | that’s the goal :) | 15:16 |
| TravT | :) | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | if there aren’t already i’ll file BPs for both of those | 15:17 |
| TravT | ativelkov: mfedosin: i'm really pretty excited about the aggregations capabilities provided by ES | 15:17 |
| TravT | there might be some interesting things you can do with that... | 15:17 |
| ativelkov | TravT: I am still wondering about that hierarchycal queries I told you about | 15:17 |
| TravT | i had some thoughts on that... | 15:18 |
| TravT | but have been going in too many directions | 15:18 |
| TravT | will you be at the summit? | 15:18 |
| ativelkov | Yup | 15:18 |
| ativelkov | So we can have a discussion there | 15:18 |
| TravT | okay, maybe we could do a session / half a session on that | 15:18 |
| TravT | sjmc7 will get to that shortly. | 15:19 |
| TravT | in our agenda | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | i will! | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | anything else anybody wants to bring up for stuff to try to get into Ocata? | 15:19 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | i may want to add aodh and ceilometer plugin | 15:20 |
| TravT | Kevin_Zheng: that'd be cool | 15:20 |
| Kevin_Zheng | but not sure time is enough | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | ok. we started looking at monasca too, which might go along with that | 15:21 |
| TravT | yingjun: You will be trying to get the notifications done for server groups, hypervisors, flavors, right? | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | i added bp for sg and flovor | 15:22 |
| Kevin_Zheng | flavor | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | we’ll have to keep an eye on the versioned notifications for nova, too | 15:22 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | not approved yet | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll start attending their meetings again | 15:22 |
| Kevin_Zheng | cant attend due to timezone problem | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | that’s understandable :) | 15:23 |
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| sjmc7 | ok, moving on unless there’s anything else? | 15:24 |
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| sjmc7 | #topic Ocata summit | 15:24 |
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| sjmc7 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ocata-summit | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | sadly i will not be able to attend for personal reasons, so TravT will be running the sessions on my behalf | 15:25 |
| TravT | sjmc7, can you attend remotely at least? | 15:25 |
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| TravT | i know that is hard to do, but if possible, we should try to do it | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i’ll do my best | 15:26 |
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| sjmc7 | i can bellow unintelligably through a speaker phone | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | i added some suggestions - if folks could take a look and see if there’s anything there they’re interested in or add other topics, that would be great | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | can brainstorm a bit here too | 15:28 |
| TravT | i added a few | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i was going to add aggregations but i see you got there first | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | maybe we can knock something together similar to the image count patch | 15:28 |
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| sjmc7 | as an example of being able to kind of dynamically patch horizon to add aggregation info | 15:28 |
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| TravT | sjmc7 that would be really cool to do | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | things like that could help drive adoption not just in horizon but elsewhere; lots of people have their own dashboards and CLI tools | 15:31 |
| TravT | wonder how long it'd take to build an overview-like page | 15:31 |
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| sjmc7 | i don’t know how much to keep hammering on improving notifications. for the most part we’re ok | 15:33 |
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| sjmc7 | nova’s still fiddly and neutron’s got some inconsistencies though they have been fixing issues that i’ve filed as bugs | 15:33 |
| TravT | have you had any chance to reach out to gibi_ | 15:33 |
| TravT | ? | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | it’s not a particularly exciting topic for anyone | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | no, not recently | 15:33 |
| TravT | seems like we need to specifically touch base with him | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. they were still going in the other direction (where the notifications are deltas) last time i checked | 15:34 |
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| sjmc7 | i have done some testing at scale and under load though, and indexing seems reliable | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | even where there are notifications processed simultaneously or out of order, the versioning handles it ok | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | any other topics suggestions? | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | when do they have to be finalized TravT ? | 15:36 |
| TravT | sjmc7 i don't think i know... | 15:37 |
| TravT | i'd guess perhaps by end of next week | 15:38 |
| lei-zh | need a vote on topics? | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll try to find out. at some point it has to go into the magic scheduling thing | 15:38 |
| TravT | yep. | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: if people add +1s on the etherpad, we can look again next week (assuming we have til then) | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | voting’s a bit hard with a big list of options | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | we’ve got a fair amount of time allocated so i think we’ll be able to get through anything anyone wants to | 15:40 |
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| TravT | yeah, let's do the +1 thing | 15:40 |
| TravT | and finalize next week. | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | if there’s nothing else on this, i didn’t have any other topics to discuss | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
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| sjmc7 | anything else anyone wants to bring up, go for it | 15:42 |
| sjmc7 | otherwise we’ll call it and let the folks in the pacific timezones go to sleep | 15:42 |
| RickA-HP | bye | 15:43 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Zzz | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | :) ok. please vote on summit topics, especially if you’ll be there but even if you won’t | 15:43 |
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| sjmc7 | thanks everyone! good night/morning/afternoon | 15:44 |
| TravT | thanks! | 15:44 |
| lei-zh | night:) | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 15:44:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-29-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-29-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-09-29-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 15:57 |
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| evrardjp | hey asettle, what's up? | 15:57 |
| asettle | o/ | 15:57 |
| asettle | yo yo | 15:57 |
| asettle | Not much, yourself evrardjp ? :) | 15:58 |
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| evrardjp | 17;00 | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | it's time for the meeting! | 16:00 |
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| mhayden | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 16:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:01 |
| * mhayden had the window buried ;) | 16:01 | |
| mhayden | #topic Roll call | 16:01 |
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| andymccr | o/ | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | o? | 16:01 |
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| automagically | o/ | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:02 |
| asettle | o/ | 16:02 |
| asettle | evrardjp: y u gotta be dat guy | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | I'm super enthuisastic today! | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | no I just type wrong | 16:02 |
| mhayden | I'LL HAVE WHAT HE'S HAVING | 16:02 |
| mhayden | :) | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | :D | 16:02 |
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| michaelgugino | hi | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:03 |
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| jmccrory | o/ | 16:04 |
| qwang | o/ | 16:04 |
| mhayden | okay, let's put the lime in the coconut | 16:05 |
| mhayden | #topic Action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | looks like palendae's request for help on the inventory patches was fulfilled! | 16:05 |
| mhayden | so i can't find any other action items | 16:05 |
| palendae | \o/ | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | I was supposed to do Liberty/Mitaka releases, and forgot :p | 16:06 |
| mhayden | #topic OpenStack-Ansible Install Guide Testing (asettle) | 16:06 |
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| * mhayden passes the mic to asettle | 16:06 | |
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| palendae | I was going to add to the agenda some things to do for inventory in Ocata but forgot to update it | 16:06 |
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| mhayden | palendae: we can cover that when asettle is done if you want | 16:06 |
| asettle | SORRY | 16:07 |
| asettle | WHAT | 16:07 |
| asettle | I WAS LIKE | 16:07 |
| asettle | RUNNING AWAY | 16:07 |
| asettle | mhayden: thanks | 16:07 |
| asettle | At the moment install guide testing is still underway | 16:07 |
| asettle | I have received only one bug, which indicates one of two thing | 16:07 |
| asettle | A: Nobody is testing | 16:08 |
| asettle | B: The guide is perfect | 16:08 |
| asettle | I'm going with option B in my head. | 16:08 |
| asettle | I will begin my own testing as of next week, I have been caught up with a few things. | 16:08 |
| automagically | Option A more likely | 16:08 |
| asettle | I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has been using the guide, or has tested teh guide | 16:08 |
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| automagically | Sadly I have not yet been able to contribute to the testing effort | 16:08 |
| asettle | automagically: letting the team down. Never forget. | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | I'm sorry I didn't read it carefully yet | 16:09 |
| asettle | If anyone has the time to test the guide, please contact me. | 16:09 |
| asettle | You will be requested to perform a full deploy using the Newton guide. | 16:09 |
| asettle | And nobody speak to automagically | 16:09 |
| automagically | ^ clearly | 16:09 |
| asettle | :p | 16:09 |
| mhayden | haha | 16:10 |
| mhayden | asettle: all good on this topic? | 16:10 |
| asettle | Anyway, that's my time done. | 16:10 |
| asettle | Thanks mhayden :) | 16:10 |
| mhayden | woot | 16:10 |
| mhayden | #topic Ocata inventory to-do's (palendae) | 16:10 |
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| * mhayden passes the mic to palendae | 16:10 | |
| palendae | I just made https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-inventory-ocata with a short list of things | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | I see what you did there mhayden | 16:11 |
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| mhayden | odyssey4me: palendae asked so nicely, though | 16:11 |
| palendae | sorry! | 16:11 |
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| palendae | I'm content to work from that etherpad, nothing urgent | 16:12 |
| mhayden | palendae: anything else on that? | 16:13 |
| palendae | Nope | 16:13 |
| automagically | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-inventory-ocata | 16:13 |
| mhayden | alrighty! | 16:14 |
| mhayden | #topic Standardizing the openstack-ansible-tests repository (andymccr / odyssey4me) | 16:14 |
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| * mhayden cuts the mic in half and gives pieces to andymccr and odyssey4me | 16:15 | |
| odyssey4me | is andymccr in the house? | 16:15 |
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| andymccr | so it was a really quick one, thoughts on the in role overrides | 16:15 |
| andymccr | there are a few going about. which is tests/test-vars.yml, or tests/rolename-overrides.yml | 16:15 |
| andymccr | i personally am in favour of rolename-overrides.yml so it doesnt overlap with the default test-vars in openstack-ansible-tests | 16:16 |
| andymccr | but if nobody has any strong opinions we can just set a standard and move on | 16:16 |
| michaelgugino | I think that's a fine format | 16:16 |
| automagically | andymccr: Overlap how? | 16:16 |
| andymccr | automagically: more just that the var name is the same | 16:16 |
| automagically | diff paths tho | 16:17 |
| andymccr | oh yeah i mean the functionality of it is fine | 16:17 |
| automagically | common/test-vars.yml vs test-vars.yml | 16:17 |
| andymccr | its more a cosmetic issue | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | for context, see https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone/blob/master/tox.ini#L156 versus https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_designate/blob/master/tests/test-vars.yml versus https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_designate/blob/master/tests/test-designate-functional.yml#L25-L27 | 16:17 |
| automagically | Eh, whatevs | 16:17 |
| michaelgugino | it's clearer to users of the test what the intention of the file is. | 16:17 |
| automagically | FWIW - with scenario testing and additional vars files, we’ll get some naming introduced as well | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | we have different ways of applying the extra vars in the repo which override the vars from the common repo... ideally we should standardise on one way | 16:17 |
| automagically | But consistency is preferable | 16:17 |
| automagically | odyssey4me: ++ -e @overrides should be the consistent pattern | 16:18 |
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| andymccr | oh yeah true | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | agreed on that front | 16:18 |
| andymccr | ok cool | 16:18 |
| andymccr | done | 16:18 |
| automagically | You both plan to open bugs on those or should we just expect patches incoming soon | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | the file naming is cosmetic - happy for it to be based on the rolename instead of 'test-vars' to keep it from being ambiguous | 16:19 |
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| automagically | Or just bringing it up for discussion | 16:19 |
| michaelgugino | ++ -e | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | I don't care, it seems a not importnat decision, I'll trust the decision | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | I mean not a damaging for the future | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | or I misunderstood | 16:19 |
| automagically | FWIW, I know we’ve historically tended not to track work items like this in launchpad, but I’m noticing that our newer contributors seem to benefit from it as they can easily find new work items | 16:20 |
| automagically | Take that for what you will | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | I'm a little tied up with another patch series. I can put a bug together though. | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | automagically yeah, agreed | 16:20 |
| andymccr | yeah it may be worthwhile | 16:20 |
| andymccr | its a low hanging item | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | it's becoming useful to note things in bugs in such a way that hopefully anyone can pick them up | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I can put a bug together tomorrow, unless you have time to do it before then andymccr ? | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | please triage it already :p | 16:21 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: will add a note :D | 16:21 |
| stevelle | +1 putting some wishlist low hanging items into launchpad. doesn't do much good to put in launchpad as low hanging if we have cores jump on them though | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | stevelle: well that's the importance of proper triaging | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | but at the moment we are quite good | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle yeah, but having cores jump on them isn't bad either - bugs are more visible to everyone than my notebook :p | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | we don't have critical or high bugs open IIRC | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | so cores can jump on whatever | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | but yes, it's maybe better to leave the low-hanging-fruit bugs to new ppl | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | maybe it's worth tagging them as low-hanging-fruit in the future | 16:23 |
| mhayden | so odyssey4me and andymccr will add these into launchpad? | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | like the other openstack projects | 16:23 |
| andymccr | will do | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | thanks andymccr | 16:24 |
| mhayden | #action andymccr will add work items to launchpad for testing overrides | 16:24 |
| mhayden | ugh, that was poorly worded | 16:24 |
| mhayden | but i think we get the idea (hopefully) | 16:24 |
| mhayden | all good on this topic andymccr / odyssey4me ? | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | yup | 16:26 |
| mhayden | woot | 16:26 |
| mhayden | #topic Release Planning & Decisions | 16:26 |
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| mhayden | odyssey4me: you're on again! :) | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I've done belated tags for Mitaka/Liberty - apologies for not doing it last week | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | For Newton, how do we feel about our current position? Should we tag RC2 and branch now - or hang tight a little longer? | 16:27 |
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| odyssey4me | My concern is now that upstream has branched, new patches are going in which are Ocata orientated, so our role tests aren't testing newton any more | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | there aren't a lot at this point, so we're kinda OK, but it will progressively diverge | 16:28 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: imo we should branch now. i have nothing going in that isnt testing related. thats just my perspective though | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | branching now does mean we'll be doing backports in the next few weeks though | 16:28 |
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| * mhayden tends to agree with andymccr on branching now | 16:29 | |
| stevelle | andymccr: I assume we want that testing work backported when reasonable | 16:29 |
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| andymccr | stevelle: yeah definitely | 16:29 |
| palendae | Release is next week... | 16:29 |
| palendae | So I'd also be for branching now | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | is it possible to stick the requirements to the stable branch, and branch when we say the docs is ready? | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | yes, I support backporting the testing work - Mitaka has almost no testing in the roles... and I'd definitely prefer having two releases well tested with the same framework | 16:30 |
| stevelle | Based on issues I know about in the upstream release candidates I think we should be looking at branching soon. | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp we can backport docs fixes just as well as any other fixes | 16:30 |
| stevelle | rather, I'm not aware of a reason not to branch osa | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I know, just wanted to have a an opinion in the middle | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | as per last cycle, I fully expect that up until milestone 1 as we get feedback of more real world deployments we'll be doing a lot of fixing and backporting | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | I don't see a problem of branching now | 16:31 |
| jmccrory | stevelle: +1, and get roles/integrated gates testing against stable/newton | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | alright, it sounds to me like we're a go on that - I'll request the branch | 16:31 |
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| evrardjp | ok good | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | thanks odyssey4me | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | please all pay attention to patches that merged after the current SHA's and help with the backporting | 16:32 |
| automagically | mhayden: Can osa-differ help with identifying backport potentials? | 16:32 |
| mhayden | automagically: potentially -- but it isn't meant to compare across branches | 16:34 |
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| stevelle | patches welcome? | 16:34 |
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| palendae | No, no patches welcome | 16:35 |
| automagically | It seems like we may have a lot to backport, so looking for some shared understanding of how to determine the list and act upon it. Seemed like a script would be the easiest way to get there | 16:35 |
| stevelle | better that way | 16:35 |
| stevelle | software is by definition correct. It does exactly what we told it to. | 16:35 |
| asettle | ... welll uhhh likeeee | 16:36 |
| asettle | mmmm | 16:37 |
| stevelle | ok, we had an action item up there for the branch | 16:38 |
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| automagically | #action odyssey4me To request/create stable/newton branches | 16:39 |
| mhayden | sorry folks -- got some walkups at my desk and getting distracted | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | I think an email on the mailing list to confirm that the branching is done couldn't be bad | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | meh, the announcements list gets the announcements for all releases | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | that's true | 16:41 |
| mhayden | automagically: sounds like we might need a commit diff between two branches on each proj? | 16:42 |
| mhayden | that's doable with some bash and git | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | Next tag and branch request is in: https://review.openstack.org/379590 | 16:43 |
| automagically | mhayden: Yep | 16:43 |
| mhayden | yay newton | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | a commit diff between branches will be useful initially, but will quickly become useless as we start working on new things. | 16:43 |
| evrardjp | thanks odyssey4me | 16:43 |
| automagically | odyssey4me: Agreed, but may help us get over the backport hump of the testing consistency patchs | 16:44 |
| mhayden | okay, ready for open floor? | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | automagically yep | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | mhayden sure | 16:46 |
| mhayden | #topic Open floor | 16:46 |
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| palendae | Anything happening with summit planning? | 16:46 |
| automagically | palendae: Great question. Would be good to get an etherpad together with list of attendees at a minimum | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103851.html | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | we have the number of work sessions and fishbowls we requested | 16:47 |
| automagically | Ah, good news | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | I will graciously leave the rest of the planning to andymccr and simply offer my support if he wishes. :) | 16:47 |
| palendae | My understanding is turn out from our team's going to be low | 16:47 |
| palendae | Just asking since it's not tooooo far out | 16:47 |
| andymccr | i'll set up an ehterpad | 16:47 |
| automagically | andymccr: Enjoy! | 16:47 |
| andymccr | etherpad - and we can figure out attendees and start throwing ideas in there for the sessions | 16:47 |
| automagically | jmccrory and michaelgugino - You guys attending? | 16:47 |
| michaelgugino | I'm here | 16:48 |
| stevelle | attending Barcelona? | 16:48 |
| automagically | Attending BCN, yes | 16:48 |
| michaelgugino | Yes, we're both going | 16:48 |
| automagically | Cool, see ya there | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | yes, I do think it's time that we start planning for Ocata work - I would hope that we have some specs to discuss at the summit. | 16:48 |
| * mhayden will be there | 16:48 | |
| * odyssey4me will be there | 16:48 | |
| palendae | That was mostly why I threw up the Ocata inventory stuff | 16:48 |
| palendae | But won't be there to discuss | 16:49 |
| andymccr | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-barcelona-schedule - thrown up quickly now - but i'll spend some time tomorrow fleshing out the schedule and a good place for ideas. for now just "attendees" section :) | 16:49 |
| jmccrory | yep | 16:49 |
| automagically | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-barcelona-schedule | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | If anyone has an OSA related (or other presentation), it would be useful to list items there. | 16:51 |
| andymccr | good point | 16:51 |
| mhayden | i'll be mentioning OSA in mine | 16:51 |
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| mhayden | okay, anything else for today? | 16:53 |
| andymccr | one quick one | 16:53 |
| automagically | Anyone currently running ceph-backed cinder using OSA mitaka? | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | automagically: yup? | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | what's the question/issue? | 16:54 |
| automagically | I’ll bother you in #openstack-ansible post-meeting | 16:54 |
| automagically | Thx evrardjp | 16:54 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:54 |
| michaelgugino | automagically: we're running it in liberty | 16:55 |
| michaelgugino | + we have lots of ceph expertise on hand. | 16:55 |
| andymccr | i'll raise mine in openstack-ansible also its more a request for reviews :) | 16:55 |
| mhayden | hah okay | 16:56 |
| mhayden | i'll close it up | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | hehe andymccr | 16:56 |
| mhayden | thanks everyone! | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 16:56 |
| mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 16:56:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-09-29-16.01.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-09-29-16.01.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-09-29-16.01.log.html | 16:56 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 17:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
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| LouisF | hi all | 17:00 |
| pcarver | hi LouisF | 17:00 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:00 |
| LouisF | pcarver: hi | 17:00 |
| LouisF | s3wong: hi | 17:00 |
| doonhammer | hi all | 17:00 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: hi | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.289.2F29.2F2016.29 | 17:02 |
| LouisF | anything to add? | 17:02 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: If we get this done we should be good | 17:03 |
| LouisF | #topic current work items | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: yes | 17:03 |
| LouisF | Replace OvsSfcAgent by L2 Agent Extension https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351789/ | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | i saw an email from Bernard that he wont attend | 17:05 |
| LouisF | is making progress | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | moving on | 17:06 |
| LouisF | Tacker driver integration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347568/ | 17:06 |
| LouisF | s3wong: what is the current status? | 17:06 |
| s3wong | LouisF: it is merged. VNFFG w/ networking-sfc driver is now officially part of Tacker Newton release | 17:07 |
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| LouisF | s3wong: great news | 17:07 |
| LouisF | s3wong: sridhar had some problems with the testing - is that resolved? | 17:07 |
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| s3wong | LouisF: yes --- I think it was likely a incompatibility between some Neutron base CLI in Newton | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | s3wong: ok | 17:09 |
| s3wong | LouisF: but it was resolved (AFAIK) | 17:09 |
| s3wong | LouisF: what I do know is that it works all the way to setting up flows in OVS | 17:09 |
| s3wong | LouisF: but since it got in so late, the VNFFG feature in general is marked 'experimental' for Newton | 17:09 |
| LouisF | s3wong: ok | 17:09 |
| s3wong | LouisF: will need to update driver once symmetrical is supported by networking-sfc | 17:10 |
| LouisF | s3wong: that work is under way - i expect to have the cli/api patch updated soon | 17:11 |
| s3wong | LouisF: it's OK --- won't be Newton anyway :-) | 17:11 |
| LouisF | s3wong: and the ovs driver/agent in a few weeks | 17:11 |
| s3wong | LouisF: for more general NFV (OPNFV especially) perspective, I think ODL support for us is also important | 17:11 |
| LouisF | s3wong: yes - do you know is any progress has been made on the odl driver? | 17:12 |
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| LouisF | anil is working on that I believe | 17:13 |
| s3wong | LouisF: got an email from Anil earlier last week | 17:13 |
| LouisF | what is his progress? | 17:14 |
| s3wong | LouisF: he was asking for networking-sfc Tacker driver to set the abstract VNF type somewhere in the port-pair-group name | 17:14 |
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| s3wong | LouisF: seems to be moving along. I think he is in ODL Summit this week | 17:15 |
| LouisF | s3wong: ok thanks | 17:15 |
| LouisF | s3wong: thanks for your work on this | 17:16 |
| s3wong | LouisF: np | 17:16 |
| LouisF | Symmetric chain API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308274/ | 17:16 |
| LouisF | this patch will be updated soon | 17:17 |
| s3wong | LouisF: BTW, Anil has a talk on networking-sfc + ODL SFC integration during ODL Sumit --- so my guess is it is at demo stage now? | 17:17 |
| LouisF | s3wong: excellent - i will no be at the odl summit | 17:18 |
| LouisF | do you have a pointer to the talk? | 17:18 |
| s3wong | LouisF: clearly :-) It is happening now :-) | 17:18 |
| LouisF | s3wong: thanks | 17:19 |
| LouisF | Networking-sfc / OVN driver spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333172/ | 17:19 |
| s3wong | LouisF: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opendaylight-summit/program/schedule -- look for "Anil Vishnoi" as speaker (he has THREE talks), and look for "OpenStack & OpenDaylight Integration for SFC" | 17:19 |
| LouisF | s3wong: very good news | 17:19 |
| LouisF | i posted the updated sfc/ovn spec | 17:21 |
| s3wong | LouisF: OK --- need to drop off. Time to go to work (glad I had my update already) | 17:21 |
| LouisF | s3wong: thanks | 17:21 |
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| LouisF | please review | 17:22 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: do you want to discuss the ovn work? | 17:23 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: sure multi-tasking with ovs | 17:24 |
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| doonhammer | I see three big isues 1) where to insert chain stage in ovn pipeline 2) how to handle fc/acl integration to make sure we do not break anything 3) how ot support stateful lb - could add mutli-subnet ports etc but will eave that | 17:25 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: agree | 17:26 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: the document you started is what we need to flesh out these issues the ovn team want to meet inBarcelona to dicuss so we shoudl be ready by then | 17:27 |
| doonhammer | with a set op options and thoughts | 17:27 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: a meeting sounds good | 17:27 |
| LouisF | ok lets work through those issues | 17:28 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: especcailly if we do the prep :-) | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: we can do that over the next few weeks | 17:29 |
| doonhammer | Can anyone else thing of items to add? | 17:29 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: High on my list | 17:29 |
| LouisF | lets focus on those items | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: we can discuss later | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | that is all that i have | 17:33 |
| LouisF | any further topics for discussion? | 17:33 |
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| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:34 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:34 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: Thanks and bye | 17:34 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 17:34:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:34 |
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