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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 18 08:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| yujunz | HI | 08:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:00 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:01 |
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| nofarsch | hi! | 08:02 |
| nadav | hi | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Ocata Release | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Design sessions | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Boston CFP | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Ocata Release | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Release (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| ifat_afek | Let me correct the release dates I wrote in the last meeting. As Vitrage is following the cycle-with-intermediary release model, we do not have to follow m1, m2 and m3 milestones | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | The relevant milestones are: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Jan23-Jan27: requirements freeze. Unfortunately, Vitrage is not listed yet in the global-requirements. We should add it before the deadline. This also means that we should mark Vitrage versions by that date. | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | #action add Vitrage to global-requirements | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Feb16 – the final deadline for Vitrage Ocata release | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | We should try to release before that, but it does give us some extra time to finish our development. Once we mark our release, we will request to create stable/ocata branch, and master will be used for Pike development. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | The full schedule can be found here: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Any comments regarding the release dates? | 08:06 |
| yujunz | What's the result for adding to global-requirements | 08:06 |
| yujunz | What is it used for? | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Well… every other official project is there | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | The rule is that every library that you want to use must be defined there | 08:08 |
| yujunz | OK | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | It is relevant for 3rd party libraries (like exrex…), but used also for openstack ones | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | Other projects can use vitrage even if it’s not listed there, but seems like adding python-vitrageclient to the list is the right thing to do | 08:09 |
| janonymous | part | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | What do you mean? | 08:09 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello | 08:10 |
| janonymous | ops sorry for mistake, forgot /part | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | janonymous: ok, you are welcome anyway :-) | 08:10 |
| janonymous | thanks :) | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | So my plan is to mark vitrage libraries tomorrow or on Sunday, and then to ask to add python-vitrageclient to global-requirments on Monday | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | And then we can continue our developement for 2-3 more weeks | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Any other questions? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Nope | 08:12 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:12 | |
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| ifat_afek | A short update about Vitrage mascot (the Giraffe): Heidi Joy Tretheway sent an email that they are still working on that. I hope we’ll be satisfied with the final result | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | They plan to start using the mascots in the PTG, but as we won’t attend I’m not sure if we will also get our mascot soon. | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: I’m working on the blueprint of adding a new API for post event to Vitrage, to be used by Doctor datasource (but not only). | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/support-inspector-sb-api | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Other updates? | 08:14 |
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| yujunz | My updates: static datasource done | 08:14 |
| eyalb | I pushed all the collectd datasource with tests | 08:15 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419812/ | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | great for both :-) | 08:15 |
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| yujunz | Started working on the skeleton generator | 08:15 |
| yujunz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/datasource-skeleton-generator | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: I guess you are waiting for alexey_weyl’s review? | 08:16 |
| yujunz | But may not catch up with ocata since I have many tasks in parallel | 08:16 |
| yujunz | Yes ifat_afek . Let me know if any additional amend requires on the static datasource | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: I guess it can wait to Pike | 08:16 |
| alexey_weyl | Yujun, Do you still think it is necessary after all the refactoring that we have done in the transformers and the drivers? | 08:17 |
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| yujunz | I suppose it would be implemented in python-vitrageclient | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | Don't we just need a more detailed doc file that explains how to add a datasource? | 08:17 |
| yujunz | Yes, alexey_weyl I think it will help removing the overhead of starting a new datasource | 08:17 |
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| yujunz | You need some copy and paste to get started with new datasource | 08:18 |
| alexey_weyl | ok. | 08:18 |
| yujunz | That's all from me | 08:19 |
| alexey_weyl | but please also add some documentation that new users will know that there is such a thing (skeleton) and that they can use it to add new datasources | 08:19 |
| alexey_weyl | Sound good | 08:19 |
| yujunz | Sure | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Great | 08:20 |
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| ifat_afek | One thing I forgot to say: I updated Vitrage architecture diagram, and added some explanations. I’ll update also Vitrage wiki soon | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/vitrage/ | 08:20 |
| nofarsch | Nice! | 08:21 |
| alexey_weyl | I have pushed a couple of patches to aodh. I have some ping pong with the aodh commiters and hopefully soon it will be approved. | 08:22 |
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| alexey_weyl | Then of course I have some more tasks to do in aodh , but hopefully it will be easier | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: good luck in getting your changes approved | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Design Sessions | 08:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design Sessions (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:25 | |
| ifat_afek | We should finalize the dates for having Vitrage design sessions in Israel, around February or March. | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Also, we should come up with a list of topics. I created an etherpad for this purpose: | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-pike-design-sessions | 08:25 |
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| ifat_afek | Feel free to add more ideas. We will arrange the design sessions schedule shortly before the meetings. | 08:26 |
| yujunz | Great | 08:26 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Boston CFP | 08:27 |
| nofarsch | I have a question | 08:27 |
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| ifat_afek | nofarsch: sure | 08:27 |
| nofarsch | but it can wait after we finish with the topics | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Now it’s also fine :-) | 08:28 |
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| nofarsch | I see that the API does not allow updating a template | 08:28 |
| nofarsch | are we going to add an option like that later? | 08:29 |
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| nofarsch | same regarding DELETE | 08:29 |
| eyalb | i will start working on template CRUD | 08:30 |
| nofarsch | planned for pike? | 08:30 |
| eyalb | but there are issues with updating and deleting templates that should be considred | 08:30 |
| eyalb | for the first stage we will simply store the templates in the database | 08:31 |
| eyalb | instead of the file system | 08:31 |
| eyalb | yep | 08:31 |
| nofarsch | great. thanks eyalb | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | So back to Boston CFP | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | We already listed some ideas in our etherpad | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-boston-session-proposals | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | Feel free to add more ideas. The deadline for submitting is February 6. | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | yujunz: I saw that you and Tomi Juvonen talked about a performance session in Doctor meeting | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | I guess this might also be relevant for Vitrage | 08:34 |
| yujunz | Yes, could be | 08:34 |
| yujunz | #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor_openstack_summit_boston_2017 | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | Looks good | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | If anyone has other ideas, please update the etherpad | 08:35 |
| yujunz | Not sure if we need to merge mitmstack with that too | 08:35 |
| yujunz | They are all about performance | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | But they check different aspects, right? | 08:35 |
| yujunz | Yes, a bit different | 08:36 |
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| yujunz | Doctor's subject is more close to QTIP | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Without thinking too much about the details, I would say suggest two sessions. But you should decide | 08:36 |
| yujunz | I perfer two session also | 08:36 |
| yujunz | Unless we find much overlap later on | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | And what about mitmstack? do you want to discuss it? | 08:37 |
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| yujunz | May I list vitrage team as co-speaker? | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | For mitmstack? sure, we’ll be happy to join | 08:37 |
| yujunz | Great | 08:38 |
| yujunz | Is there a way to share the proposal, it seems to be a private link | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | I don’t understand the question | 08:38 |
| yujunz | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/manage/17469/summary | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | When you submit a proposal, you can list a few speakers from different companies | 08:39 |
| yujunz | Can you access the management link? | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | I’m trying | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | I’m supposed to have a login, I registed a while ago | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | Trying now | 08:40 |
| yujunz | I have just added you as co-speaker | 08:41 |
| yujunz | Maybe that will grant you access to the proposal | 08:41 |
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| ifat_afek | I just got an email that you updated my speaker bio :-) | 08:42 |
| yujunz | Feel free to invite other root causer ifat_afek | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | ok. I’ll check it later, in order not to make eveyone else wait | 08:42 |
| yujunz | Sure. Let's move on | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Any other topics to discuss? | 08:42 |
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| ifat_afek | yujunz: I managed to get in. I like the title (copy&paste so others can see it): Large Scale OpenStack in Your Pocket - mitmstack OpenStack Service Faker | 08:44 |
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| yujunz | I have also an alternative title "Cheat the client - using MitmStack in Vitrage performance testing" | 08:46 |
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| ifat_afek | Big like to that too :-) And BTW, I always assumed that you have to fill all the details before submitting. Good to know you can do it in stages | 08:46 |
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| ifat_afek | Once you have something more concrete, we’ll be happy to discuss the details | 08:47 |
| yujunz | Thanks. I think it is important to include the project title for searching optimization. So I would prefer the latter to include "Vitrage" in title | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | I agree | 08:47 |
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| ifat_afek | AFAIK the search is only by the title, not by the description | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, any other issues before we close the meeting? | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | See you next week! | 08:50 |
| nofarsch | bye :) | 08:50 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:50 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 18 08:51:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-18-08.00.html | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-18-08.00.txt | 08:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-18-08.00.log.html | 08:51 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 18 09:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:01 |
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| acabot | o/ | 09:01 |
| dtardivel | hi | 09:01 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:01 |
| pksingh | Pradeep from WalmartLabs | 09:01 |
| pksingh | hello | 09:01 |
| acabot | hello pksingh | 09:02 |
| pksingh | acabot: hi | 09:02 |
| acabot | pksingh : in which timezone are you ? | 09:02 |
| alexchadin | hi | 09:02 |
| pksingh | acabot: IST(Indian Standerd Timezone) | 09:02 |
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| tmetsch | hi | 09:02 |
| acabot | pksingh : ok this meeting time is better for you then | 09:03 |
| pksingh | acabot: yes, its 2:30 PM here | 09:03 |
| acabot | pksingh : if we move it 2h later, would it be good for you as well ? | 09:04 |
| acabot | I'm asking because sballe & jwcroppe asked to change meeting time last week | 09:04 |
| pksingh | acabot: 4:30 PM? I think at that time i will be travelling from office to home | 09:04 |
| acabot | pksingh : ok, 3h later would be better ? | 09:05 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F18.2F2016 | 09:05 |
| pksingh | acabot: for safe time i would like to request to 6:30 PM IST if its possible and necessary | 09:06 |
| acabot | pksingh : ok I will check that thx | 09:06 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:06 |
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| pksingh | acabot: thanks a lot | 09:06 |
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| acabot | #info PTG is in one month, a dedicated etherpad is now open, please submit topics that you want to discuss | 09:07 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-watcher-ptg | 09:07 |
| acabot | ttx just told me that there are only 100 seats left | 09:07 |
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| acabot | so if you plan to join us in Atlanta, please register at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-tickets-27549298694 asap | 09:07 |
| acabot | PTG could be full by end of week | 09:08 |
| acabot | and add you name as attendees in the etherpad | 09:08 |
| acabot | #action acabot send an email to all watcher contributors about PTG tickets rush$ | 09:09 |
| acabot | please also complete the topics section on the etherpad | 09:09 |
| pksingh | acabot: is there any travel support program from openstack community for PTG? | 09:09 |
| acabot | pksingh : https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_travel | 09:10 |
| acabot | deadline to submit was January 13th | 09:10 |
| pksingh | ahh | 09:11 |
| acabot | even if you dont join us, please complete the topic list so that we can discuss all subjects coming from the community | 09:11 |
| pksingh | sure | 09:11 |
| acabot | #info Call for presentations for Boston summit is now open (deadline is February 6th), a dedicated etherpad is ready to be completed | 09:11 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_boston2017 | 09:11 |
| acabot | as a reminder, if your talk is selected, you will get a free pass for Boston summit | 09:12 |
| acabot | so please complete the etherpad | 09:12 |
| acabot | #info Pike PTLs self nomination will start next week and Watcher needs to find a new PTL | 09:12 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109019.html | 09:12 |
| acabot | any other announcement form you guys ? | 09:13 |
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| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:14 | |
| acabot | Still a lot of specs open waiting for reviews | 09:14 |
| acabot | Add improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs to be rewrited after implementation as it differs from original spec | 09:14 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:14 |
| acabot | alexchadin : do you see what needs to be updated ? | 09:14 |
| alexchadin | I'm working on it today | 09:14 |
| ttx | pksingh: you can still submit for teh travel support program in the coming hour, haven't closed the poll yet | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | acabot: to complete info about weight planner | 09:15 |
| ttx | It's still Tuesday in Hawai after all | 09:15 |
| pksingh | if i submit by next two hour will it be OK?/ | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | acabot: and update info about workload_stabilization planner also | 09:15 |
| ttx | yes sure | 09:15 |
| pksingh | ttx, thanks | 09:15 |
| ttx | pksingh: doesn't mean you will get selected, since we have many demands, but worth a try! | 09:16 |
| pksingh | ttx: yes, i understand. thankx | 09:16 |
| acabot | alexchadin : ok looks good, dont forget to do it promptly as we plan to have your code merged by ocata-3 | 09:16 |
| acabot | alexchadin : I'd like to have the spec in sync ;-) | 09:17 |
| alexchadin | acabot: me too:) | 09:17 |
| acabot | Add improvements to Applier to make it parallel needs a final core review | 09:17 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/ | 09:17 |
| pksingh | acabot: what is the last date for code freeze in this cycle? | 09:17 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:17 |
| acabot | pksingh : CLI & dashboard 01/19, Watcher 01/23 | 09:17 |
| acabot | jwcroppe already merged it | 09:18 |
| pksingh | acabot: i wanted to implement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:18 |
| acabot | #info Audit tag in VM Metadata still has TODOs | 09:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: unless you are already about to push the code for review and we don't have much to say on it, I don't think it'll make it | 09:19 |
| acabot | pksingh : could you complete this spec ? | 09:19 |
| pksingh | acabot: i will work with Prashanth | 09:20 |
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| acabot | pksingh : you really need to complete this spec as I'd like to discuss implementation details at the PTG | 09:20 |
| acabot | #action pksingh hvprash complete spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:21 |
| pksingh | acabot: OK | 09:21 |
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| acabot | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS answering previous comments | 09:21 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 09:21 |
| acabot | this one also come from hvprash | 09:21 |
| acabot | pksingh : are you working on this one too ? | 09:21 |
| pksingh | acabot: not looked yet | 09:22 |
| acabot | #action hvprash answer comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 09:22 |
| acabot | Support Description For Dynamic Action needs a new PS | 09:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:22 |
| acabot | is hanrong here ? | 09:22 |
| acabot | #action hanrong add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:23 |
| acabot | Noisy Neighbor Strategy has still work in progress | 09:23 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 09:23 |
| acabot | #action sballe complete https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 09:24 |
| acabot | cluster energy saving needs to be resubmitted as launchpad does not allow to change the superseded state | 09:24 |
| acabot | ttx as you are here, do you know if we can remove a superseded state for a blueprint in laucnhpad ? | 09:24 |
| acabot | #action hanrong jinquan yumengbao resubmit the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving | 09:25 |
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| acabot | moving to Watcher | 09:25 |
| acabot | #info Automatic triggering audit has been merged | 09:25 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/automatic-triggering-audit | 09:25 |
| acabot | thx alexchadin | 09:26 |
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| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 09:26 |
| acabot | #info Added Monasca Helper & Multi datasource support for Basic Consolidation have been merged | 09:26 |
| ttx | hmm let me see | 09:26 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ & #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 09:26 |
| acabot | thx vincentfrancoise | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | great news! | 09:26 |
| acabot | Fix multinode tempest test failure multinode gate is still being fixed | 09:27 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419544/ | 09:27 |
| acabot | dtardivel & vincentfrancoise are still investigating | 09:28 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel vincentfrancoise fix multinode gate | 09:28 |
| ttx | (re: inability to un-supersede blueprints: looks like another LP limitation) | 09:28 |
| acabot | ttx ok good to know :-D | 09:28 |
| acabot | ttx thx | 09:29 |
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| acabot | New default planner needs final core reviews | 09:29 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 09:29 |
| alexchadin | +1 | 09:30 |
| dtardivel | I'm running additional integration tests on our lab OS cluster | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | as I told alexchadin, I need to test it today to see if I don't find any more bugs | 09:30 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: Will you test it along with new applier? | 09:30 |
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| acabot | #action dtardivel vincentfrancoise do additional testing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: dtardivel will test the whole chain I think, I will only look at the planner itself | 09:31 |
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| acabot | Graph cluster model instead of mapping one needs final reviews and all strategy authors should try their strategy | 09:31 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418434/ | 09:32 |
| acabot | tmetsch : did you already looked at it with Kevin ? | 09:32 |
| tmetsch | acabot: jup - comments should be in now. | 09:32 |
| vincentfrancoise | tmetsch: I saw them, thx | 09:32 |
| tmetsch | generally looks good to us, just some minors to ensure future usage - good work! | 09:33 |
| acabot | tmetsch : thx | 09:33 |
| acabot | check the state of action plan needs final reviews | 09:33 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:34 |
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| acabot | who wants to review it ? | 09:34 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:34 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:34 |
| acabot | dynamic action description needs a status | 09:35 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description | 09:35 |
| acabot | #action hanrong give a status for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description | 09:35 |
| acabot | Watcher CLI & dashboard | 09:36 |
| acabot | #info CLI & dashboard must be released by January 19th for Ocata | 09:36 |
| acabot | alexchadin : we need to merge your code that depends from Watcher PS | 09:36 |
| acabot | in CLI | 09:36 |
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| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:37 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: that's why I'm on it today | 09:37 |
| alexchadin | acabot: what PS your are speaking about? | 09:37 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-watcherclient+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-cli-test | 09:37 |
| alexchadin | acabot: support parents? | 09:37 |
| alexchadin | acabot: ah, understood | 09:38 |
| acabot | #info ocata-3 is due January 23rd (feature freeze) | 09:39 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-3 | 09:39 |
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| dtardivel | alexchadin: yes, new 'parents' feature in db | 09:39 |
| acabot | we still have 3 BPs in review | 09:39 |
| acabot | and 9 bugs open | 09:39 |
| acabot | please try to fix bugs by January 23rd | 09:40 |
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| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:41 |
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| acabot | we discussed last week about changing the time of this meeting | 09:41 |
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| acabot | according to pksingh having it 4 hours later would be fine | 09:42 |
| acabot | it will also be good for US | 09:42 |
| acabot | but not so good for China I suppose | 09:42 |
| acabot | it would be 13 UTC | 09:42 |
| acabot | so 9pm in China | 09:43 |
| acabot | and 8am in the US | 09:43 |
| acabot | let me try to find a slot on openstack meeting schedule | 09:44 |
| acabot | #action acabot find a new slot available for meeting on odd weeks at 13UTC | 09:45 |
| acabot | any other topic to discuss ? | 09:45 |
| pksingh | acabot: for even weeks it will be same? | 09:45 |
| acabot | yes we keep 14UTC on even weeks | 09:45 |
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| pksingh | thats also good foe me | 09:46 |
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| acabot | ok thank you guys | 09:46 |
| acabot | have a nice day/night | 09:47 |
| pksingh | acabot: i have one question, can i ask? | 09:47 |
| acabot | sure | 09:47 |
| pksingh | acabot: why did we choose voluptous over jsonschema? | 09:47 |
| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: we actually want to get away from voluptuous now :p | 09:48 |
| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/jsonschema-validation | 09:48 |
| pksingh | vincentfrancoise: yes, i find it too hard, you have to write code for it | 09:48 |
| pksingh | vincentfrancoise: is anybody working on that | 09:49 |
| pksingh | i can take that | 09:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: hum yumengbao is workon on it | 09:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: I don't know if he actually started it though | 09:49 |
| pksingh | vincentfrancoise: ok great, if he needs any help i can help him | 09:49 |
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| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: we talked about it last week | 09:49 |
| pksingh | in which timezone he is, any idea? | 09:50 |
| acabot | pksingh : china | 09:51 |
| pksingh | acabot: OK, will discuss with him tomorrow | 09:51 |
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| acabot | ok | 09:51 |
| pksingh | thanks guys, i would like to be part of this wonderful team bye :) | 09:52 |
| acabot | thank you pksingh | 09:52 |
| acabot | see you | 09:52 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 09:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 18 09:52:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-18-09.01.html | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-18-09.01.txt | 09:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-18-09.01.log.html | 09:52 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 09:53 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 18 13:01:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:01 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:01 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | let us start the meeting | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng and I work on those patches, and I think they are close | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | the last patch is reno and api-ref | 13:03 |
| gmann | nice | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | anyone have more concern about it? | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | my memory is bad | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | just recovering from last two days in bed | 13:05 |
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| gmann | about policy deprecation ? should we log and add in sample file too ? | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | why do we filter the search params? | 13:05 |
| gmann | i mean how user will get to know other than reno | 13:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann: thats something we should look at next cycle, policy deprecation, renames, and docs | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but reno at a minimum I feel | 13:06 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: ok | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone remember where the search param ignore list came from? | 13:07 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/ocata/approved/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters.html#proposed-change | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | the begin of propose section | 13:08 |
| Kevin_Zheng | everything will be ignored except joined table ones and internal keys | 13:08 |
| Kevin_Zheng | start with _ | 13:08 |
| Kevin_Zheng | 400 will raise for those | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we were matching the filters I guess | 13:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | good point, the current change is a very "breaking" one, in the raising 400 sense | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: you mean the sort keys? it is for not breaking the user. we disable some sort keys without microversion and return 400. that will break the user directly | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:10 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah just saw your comment What I said was filter | 13:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: not sure, I am trying to remember what happened before the sort key change | 13:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so my real feedback here is I am +2 the first one, I am still working through the other changes | 13:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | only came back online this morning after signing off on friday :( | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | i see, the whole series have too much detail :) | 13:13 |
| gmann | 1 question | 13:13 |
| gmann | should we add updated_at in filter also as we do for sorting ? | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: just ping me or Kevin_Zheng when you need more info | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | gmann: change-since is equal to updated_at | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | will do | 13:14 |
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| gmann | oh yea, thanks | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | np | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, so the policy thing... | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could make the new rule default to one of the old rules? | 13:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so its more backwards compatible | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: the old rule is open for anyone now | 13:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng | and new one is soft | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so think about the deployer | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | for we can remove it in next release | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | they have modifed policy | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | and set the index:all_tenants rule | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | they upgrade, and now we ignore their rule change, and use some new policy rule | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | this breaks our upgrade promise around configuration | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | if the old rule is more strict, then nothing break. it due to we check the old rule first | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | if the new rule defaults to the old rule, and we log a warning message if the old rule is different to the default, then it would be better | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | if the old rule is more relax, yes, the new rule will strict that again | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | right | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | which breaks them | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | we need some patterns around how we change policy | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: but we need change the old rule back to admin-only | 13:19 |
| gmann | yea nice point | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | we clearly are not there yet, as we need help from oslo.policy I feel | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, we would | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we can log a warning for users that have changed the default, warning them to update their policy file | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | emm...this is bad for new deployment user | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | why? | 13:21 |
| gmann | but warning will prevent new deployment to use old rules | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | if they modify the older rule, we log a message telling them its bad, and they should modify the new policy file | 13:21 |
| gmann | yea | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | oops, I miss-understood, log a warning for changed the default is good | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | now the default is in code, we can do that kind of thing | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | longer term olso.policy should do all that for us | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | but for now, its manual I think | 13:23 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: is 1 cycle enough for user to switch on policy file? i mean people may upgrade after 2-3 cycle may be | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann: we only do one for config, so that seems fine for policy | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: we have never supported N -> N+2 or N+3 upgrades | 13:25 |
| gmann | yea | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | on the regex parameter front, there is a curious bug that has a review up | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392305/ | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically | 13:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its possible to set a field like name to a value that isn't a valid regex | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | when you filter with the exact name, you get an error today | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | but really, you would expect us to fall back to an exact match, and return that server | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am curious what you think | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523668 | 13:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523668 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "valid instance name before proceed" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sujitha (sujitha-neti) | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | more context above | 13:30 |
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| cdent | weird | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | interesting | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | its honestly not something I had thought about, but its super interesting | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | totally and edge case, but folks are hitting this in production it seems | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | is it ok to fix that without microversion | 13:31 |
| gmann | for me, we should allow to return if accepting that while creating | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | its error / no results -> a result, so its purely a question of discoverability of the fix | 13:32 |
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| gmann | yea, without microversion it is risky | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | what people think about regex matching? | 13:34 |
| alex_xu | we really have a lot of parameters are pattern matching https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420494/6/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/servers.py | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am wondering about IPv6 addresses and regex | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | that may not go well | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | its tempting to do a microversion that restricts the regex to a very small number | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | but the ship has sailed I guess | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | with search light it becomes easier I guess | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/ // | 13:36 |
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| alex_xu | at least I think https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters just keep the API behaviour same as for now. Then think about that bug separately | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: just found 'created_at' work with regex? the type is datetime I think | 13:37 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | I did test and it works | 13:38 |
| gmann | and what it gave? empty | 13:38 |
| Kevin_Zheng | but didn't dig too deep | 13:39 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | for corect number like 2016 | 13:39 |
| Kevin_Zheng | we will have result | 13:39 |
| Kevin_Zheng | for string like abc | 13:39 |
| Kevin_Zheng | empty list returned | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | so today we only validate name right? | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I assume you get 500s for invalid regex for the other params I guess? | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: in api layer, yes. the db will raise exception for invalid regex, which lead to 500 | 13:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, so this is just removing 500s we know about, which is reasonable. | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:41 |
| gmann | yea | 13:41 |
| gmann | we have coordinate between this bug fix and BP changes - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392305/8/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py | 13:42 |
| gmann | because if we merge that bug fix we have to do same in schema side also where we do regex for name | 13:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I am +2 that regex check now | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think it makes sense to kill the 500s | 13:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we can sort out the rest of things after that | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | ++ | 13:45 |
| gmann | yea | 13:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am just uncertain about the sort params, and that black list that we now ignore | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | I remember we discuss that in the meeting, we all agree to ignore is best choice for not breaking user | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am just not sure why we are rejecting things, I guess before we hit 500 error in the DB layer? | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | for totally unknown things | 13:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | like foo_bar | 13:47 |
| alex_xu | foo_bar return 400 in sort_key | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | after our change it does | 13:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | what happens today? | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | it return 400 in today also | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | how, I am curious? | 13:48 |
| gmann | but say on 'locked' what is today result | 13:48 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: due to oslo.db handle that https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/utils.py#L190 | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I thought that gave us a 500 error? | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess we handle that | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: if we input joined_table in filters, we will get 500, due to that handle in nova, and we just use 'getattr' | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | its the sort I am focusing in | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah.... https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/a5a94cefb58512217f0042ffaa153a9c3af033f0/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2247 | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, that answers one set of worries, thanks | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann I guess "locked" today just sorts true/false all the instances? | 13:53 |
| gmann | and we will ignore now. is it fine? | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am not sure I like that | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | because "locked" is in the filters list | 13:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: is it worth a rebase, so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415142 is last in the series here? | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | that seems the controversial one now. | 13:56 |
| gmann | not 'locked' its 'locked_by' in filter actually | 13:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, good point | 13:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | too much confuse in the filter and sort keys world | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 for it being a messy | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/messy/mess/ | 13:58 |
| gmann | not 'locked' its 'locked_by' in filter actually :) | 13:58 |
| gmann | opps | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | remind: 2 mins left | 13:58 |
| gmann | too many keys to handle :) | 13:58 |
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| alex_xu | so for now we need check the policy deprecation | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: and ping me and Kevin_Zheng in nova channel for any question | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 18 15:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | O/ | 15:00 |
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| cwolferh | o/ | 15:01 |
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| therve | Hola | 15:01 |
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| ramishra | seems we don't have many around | 15:02 |
| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-01-18_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
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| ramishra | other than ocata-3 status I don't have anything else to discuss. | 15:03 |
| ramishra | anyone has anything else feel free to add | 15:04 |
| ricolin | how about PTG session | 15:04 |
| ramishra | ricolin: we'll have a new PTL in a few weeks to take care of that;) | 15:04 |
| ricolin | ramishra: got it! | 15:05 |
| ramishra | I've not seen many sessions added to the etherpad I started. | 15:05 |
| ramishra | anyway let's discuss it later | 15:05 |
| ramishra | #topic ocata-3 status | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-3 | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | most of the bps are done, other than https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/support-auto-none-special-network | 15:06 |
| ricolin | huangtianhua: around? | 15:07 |
| ramishra | Actaully it's the give-me-a-network stuff in nova and neutron. | 15:07 |
| ramishra | I'm not convinced about the implementation | 15:07 |
| prazumovsky | Hello, sorry for late | 15:07 |
| ramishra | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/implemented/get-me-a-network.html | 15:08 |
| ramishra | This is the nova spec | 15:08 |
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| ramishra | Actually it allows a string('none' and 'auto') for the networks property of server | 15:10 |
| ramishra | therve: any thoughts? | 15:10 |
| zaneb | o/ | 15:10 |
| therve | ramishra, I haven't looked at the patches | 15:10 |
| ramishra | It can be either a map or a string for a property | 15:10 |
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| ramishra | Do we've a way to do it? | 15:10 |
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| zaneb | iirc the Properties stuff requires a fixed type | 15:11 |
| ramishra | therve: ok, to me it looks unique case | 15:11 |
| therve | ramishra, Wait it's not just none or auto? | 15:12 |
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| ramishra | networks property of server can be 'none' or 'auto' or a map(like it's now) | 15:13 |
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| ramishra | there are number of bugs still in progress, may be all of us can spend some more review time:) | 15:20 |
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| zaneb | when is FF? | 15:21 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: next week | 15:22 |
| zaneb | oh wow, that's... soon | 15:22 |
| ramishra | therve: what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1566845? | 15:22 |
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| ricolin | short release | 15:22 |
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| ramishra | yeah, nomination for next PTL from next week too, I think. | 15:23 |
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| zaneb | re bug 1566845... it's so hard to know the right solution there. the limit is on total connections to the DB, but individual heat engines don't have a global view on that | 15:25 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1566845 in heat "DB errors for large/nested stacks with convergence enabled" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Herve (therve) | 15:25 |
| openstack | bug 1566845 in heat "DB errors for large/nested stacks with convergence enabled" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1566845 - Assigned to Thomas Herve (therve) | 15:25 |
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| ramishra | yeah I agree | 15:25 |
| zaneb | best would be to handle the error gracefully and retry, I guess? | 15:26 |
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| ramishra | bug 1656429, I think all patches are approved now, no? | 15:26 |
| openstack | bug 1656429 in heat "Convergence loads all resources to check a single resource" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656429 - Assigned to Zane Bitter (zaneb) | 15:26 |
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| zaneb | approved but not merged :) | 15:27 |
| therve | ramishra, I think my "fix" is still somewhat reasonable, but nobody likes it :) | 15:27 |
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| ramishra | therve: :) | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | bug 1570576 , that's the last one with high priority | 15:28 |
| openstack | bug 1570576 in heat "After updating a stack stuck IN_PROGRESS, resources will be permanently stuck IN_PROGRESS" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570576 - Assigned to Tanvir Talukder (tanvirt16) | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: Is that ready? I saw you reviewed it few times. I've not checked that for a while. | 15:29 |
| zaneb | there's a new patchset up for that, I need to re-review | 15:29 |
| zaneb | the last one looked pretty good but was marked WIP | 15:30 |
| ramishra | ok | 15:30 |
| zaneb | so there's a good chance this will be landable | 15:30 |
| zaneb | is that a word? I'm making that a word. | 15:30 |
| ramishra | ok, we've just a few days, else I'll push the bugs to pike | 15:31 |
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| ramishra | none of them seem critical to me though. | 15:31 |
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| ramishra | gate seems very stable last few days, so good chance of landing it the first time with the gate job after approval;) | 15:32 |
| therve | You jinxed it | 15:32 |
| ramishra | lol | 15:32 |
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| ramishra | I've nothing else in the agenda. | 15:33 |
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| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 15:33 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: whoa, *bugs* don't have to be pushed to Pike at FF time | 15:33 |
| zaneb | blueprints, yes | 15:34 |
| pvrazumovsky | I have one | 15:34 |
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| pvrazumovsky | zaneb, therve, ramishra https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bug/1620859 please review, this is new one translation mechanism | 15:34 |
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| ramishra | some of these are bugs, but are features kind of, spec-lite | 15:35 |
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| ramishra | I meant to move those | 15:35 |
| zaneb | ramishra: fair enough | 15:35 |
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| ramishra | translation changes, I think it would be risky to land them so late in the cycle, any thoughts? | 15:36 |
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| pvrazumovsky | Maybe really move it to p1 | 15:37 |
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| ricolin | ramishra: I think those patch are nice, but maybe move to p1 will give more time to review | 15:37 |
| zaneb | thoughts: 1) this is awesome. 2) reviewing this by next week is going to be *really* hard work | 15:38 |
| ramishra | ricolin: yeah, we wanted it to fixed it this cycle to start with. | 15:38 |
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| ramishra | though it's late, may be few can spend extra hours to get them in. | 15:39 |
| skraynev_ | hi all, I am late :) sorry | 15:39 |
| ramishra | Though we've not seen new bugs on translation this cycle. | 15:39 |
| ramishra | skraynev_: hi | 15:39 |
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| zaneb | let's see how it goes this week, but be ready to fall back to p1. at least we are in a good position to get it landed early in Pike thanks to pvrazumovsky's hard work :) | 15:40 |
| skraynev_ | ramishra: I answered on your question here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415849/7 :) | 15:41 |
| ramishra | zaneb: sure | 15:41 |
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| pvrazumovsky | agree | 15:41 |
| ricolin | zaneb: sounds great | 15:41 |
| ramishra | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:gabbi, REST API tests, if someone can review. | 15:42 |
| skraynev_ | I suppose, that translation rules code now comes to pvrazumovsky in night dreams now ;) | 15:43 |
| ramishra | skraynev_: sure, will have a look | 15:43 |
| skraynev_ | ramishra: awesome, thx :) | 15:43 |
| ramishra | anything else? | 15:43 |
| ricolin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-pike-ptg-sessions | 15:43 |
| ricolin | guys please put more ideas in | 15:44 |
| ramishra | btw, I registered a new project in launchpad https://launchpad.net/heat-agents | 15:44 |
| ramishra | therve, zaneb ^^ | 15:44 |
| therve | ramishra, Ah thanks | 15:44 |
| skraynev_ | ramishra: cool! | 15:45 |
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| ramishra | Are we done? move back to #heat ? | 15:47 |
| zaneb | great. working on getting it packaged in RDO as well | 15:47 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: thanks! | 15:47 |
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| ramishra | ok, thanks all for joining! | 15:48 |
| ramishra | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 18 15:48:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-18-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-18-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-18-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
| pvrazumovsky | Bye | 15:49 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 18 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
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| sdake | woot | 16:00 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t for kolla! rollcall plz | 16:00 |
| egonzalez | woot! o/ | 16:00 |
| mliima | w000000000000t | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t for kolla! rollcall plz (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| jascott1 | woot! | 16:00 |
| sp___ | woot !! | 16:00 |
| inc0 | chatbot seems to be laggy too | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Jeffrey4l: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
| sdake | inc0 ya its ok | 16:01 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l inc0 made it in time :) | 16:01 |
| wirehead_ | meow meow | 16:01 |
| inc0 | sorry guys | 16:01 |
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| sdake | inc0 its a-ok | 16:02 |
| mandre | o/ | 16:02 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:02 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:02 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sorry, got some network issue. | 16:02 |
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| qwang | O/ | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | 0/ | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | kolla-k8s 0.4.0 is out | 16:03 |
| inc0 | so yay | 16:03 |
| inc0 | anything else?:) | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | guess not | 16:05 |
| inc0 | #topic Kolla deliverable | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | sdake, what exactly you meant by it? | 16:05 |
| sdake | umm | 16:05 |
| sdake | i put hte agenda together | 16:05 |
| sdake | i thought we would want to talk about blueprints | 16:05 |
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| sdake | since the deadline is like t-1 week out | 16:05 |
| sdake | and figure out which blueprints to move to pike now | 16:06 |
| inc0 | yeah, makes sense | 16:06 |
| sdake | so peopel could focus on ocata | 16:06 |
| sdake | inc0 however your our ptl, so you decide how tot hanle htis sectio n:) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/ocata-3 | 16:06 |
| inc0 | no, I agree | 16:06 |
| inc0 | let's do this | 16:06 |
| inc0 | thanks | 16:06 |
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| sdake | real quick, on annuncmeenet,s sorry was multitasking | 16:08 |
| sdake | if folks wnat to be a part of the helm wg eithe email me or email inc0, and we will get you set up | 16:08 |
| sdake | stdake@cisco.com | 16:08 |
| sdake | thanks :) | 16:08 |
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| sdake | this is the openstack + helm wg | 16:08 |
| inc0 | so, let's get to blueprints | 16:08 |
| inc0 | 1. fluentd seems to be going ok | 16:09 |
| sdake | so slow progress | 16:09 |
| duonghq | vice | 16:09 |
| duonghq | nice | 16:09 |
| sdake | inc0 i typically boot these out of the relesae ;) | 16:09 |
| inc0 | 2. keystone upgrades - this has to land. | 16:09 |
| sdake | and move them to pike | 16:09 |
| inc0 | let's update status tho | 16:09 |
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| sdake | yup - inc0 its hard to get popeple to keep the status updated on the blueprints | 16:10 |
| inc0 | also, let's make this Friday a bug day | 16:10 |
| sdake | inc0 no dobut - 190 bugs :( | 16:10 |
| inc0 | its night impossible | 16:10 |
| inc0 | so let's make every Friday till release bug day;) | 16:10 |
| inc0 | cores focus on bugs, people fix bugs | 16:11 |
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| sdake | inc0 that wont work for me personally but sounds like a good idea ;) | 16:11 |
| inc0 | you can fix bugs without having cores around | 16:11 |
| sdake | right | 16:11 |
| inc0 | what I mean is to try to help non-cores | 16:11 |
| inc0 | and non cores, please use this time if you want contributions | 16:12 |
| inc0 | we'll be around | 16:12 |
| inc0 | I'll send mail to ML later | 16:12 |
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| sdake | inc0 typically the way I handle the blueprints in the past is to kick out all the low and medium that are not in good progress to pike | 16:12 |
| sdake | inc0 and then bounce high at mileston e#3 release | 16:12 |
| inc0 | and that;s what I'm going to do | 16:12 |
| sdake | cool | 16:12 |
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| sdake | inc0 just trying to help with my experience ;) | 16:13 |
| inc0 | but my personal request, if anyone has bp on them, update it's status | 16:13 |
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| inc0 | otherwise I assume it's not being worked on | 16:13 |
| sdake | inc0 anything that is slow progress, i would bounce now | 16:13 |
| inc0 | well, I want to give people chance to make changes to this status | 16:13 |
| sdake | inc0 sounds good | 16:13 |
| inc0 | I'll do some due diligence myself | 16:13 |
| inc0 | after meeting | 16:14 |
| sbezverk | inc0: sorry for being late, what is the current topic? | 16:14 |
| sdake | inc0 ya i had to spend inordinate amoutns of time reviewing the whiteboard in the blueprints as ptl to detemrine status :) | 16:14 |
| sdake | sbezverk kolla deliverable blueprints | 16:14 |
| sbezverk | sdake: thanks | 16:14 |
| inc0 | sbezverk, if you have koilla/kolla-ansible bp on you, please update status | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | #action all - update status on blueprints | 16:15 |
| inc0 | that was correct syntax? | 16:15 |
| sdake | yup should be | 16:15 |
| sdake | not sure tbh - i think its ok tho :) | 16:15 |
| inc0 | well, whatever, I'll send this to ML too | 16:15 |
| sdake | good idea re ml inc0 | 16:15 |
| inc0 | ok, so let's stop on that, again, make sure your bp status is up to date, today I'll send ML and give full 24hrs for that | 16:16 |
| inc0 | tomorrow I'm bouncing blueprints | 16:16 |
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| inc0 | same will go to kolla-ansible deliverable, so I'll skip this | 16:16 |
| inc0 | #topic kolla-kubernetes 0.5.0 | 16:17 |
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| inc0 | timebox you wanted was 10min sdake? we can extend it | 16:17 |
| inc0 | since we saved time on bps | 16:17 |
| sdake | ok | 16:17 |
| sdake | well i dont know how much time we need 10 mins shoudl be enough | 16:17 |
| inc0 | fine then | 16:17 |
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| sdake | since we are release independent and havne't released a 1.0.0 I changed around the tracker here: https://launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes | 16:18 |
| sdake | the idea is inc0 will submit a request at his earliest convience to change us to release:cycle_traling | 16:18 |
| sdake | I think that can happen in early pike | 16:18 |
| sdake | for only a month or so | 16:18 |
| sdake | but cant happen now bcause release models are forzen by the release team | 16:18 |
| sdake | releae model changes | 16:18 |
| inc0 | that would be great, but frankly I'd do it adter 1.0 | 16:19 |
| sdake | we released 0.4.0 on sunday: https://launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/master/0.4.0 | 16:19 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, probably better after 1.0. | 16:19 |
| sdake | Thanks a ubnc hto eveyrone involved - and especially writing the reno release notes at teh last minute - and jeffrey4l for fighuring out how to get them to render | 16:19 |
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| kfox1111 | we still need to define what is required for 1.0 too. | 16:19 |
| inc0 | agree kfox1111 <- wanted to say it myself | 16:19 |
| sdake | here is 0.5.0 with a 1 month window | 16:19 |
| sdake | https://launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+milestone/0.5.0 | 16:20 |
| sdake | ionly 5 small blueprints | 16:20 |
| inc0 | I'd suggest making this full PTG session | 16:20 |
| sdake | 5 large blueprints | 16:20 |
| sdake | inc0 wfm - we have ptg planning on agenda too | 16:20 |
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| sdake | the 5 large blueprints, the idea of this "sprint" (even though openstack doesn't use agile but is more waterfall + opensorucy:) | 16:20 |
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| sdake | is to get us to the point we have a complete implementation | 16:20 |
| sdake | the service layer is already in progress | 16:21 |
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| inc0 | we also need galera | 16:21 |
| sdake | the key thing here is people should sign up for stuff that interests them | 16:21 |
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| kfox1111 | sdake: there may be two much work on that 0.5.0 mile stone to be time based. | 16:21 |
| inc0 | or even a/p myself replication | 16:21 |
| sdake | inc0 that can go under the services workitem | 16:21 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i understand -we can kick things out as needed | 16:21 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 open source projects don't have capacity planning | 16:21 |
| sdake | kfox1111 because its avolunteer effort | 16:22 |
| sdake | kfox1111 so if things don't make the 1 mo deadine, they go to 0.6.0 | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | right. so either they move the release data, or don't implement stuff. | 16:22 |
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| kfox1111 | do we move the deadline or not implement stuff? | 16:22 |
| sdake | the deadline is lined up to finish prior to the ptg | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | ah. | 16:22 |
| sdake | so we have an implementation to discuss at the ptg | 16:22 |
| inc0 | depends on stuff kfox1111 | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | that would be a good deadline to keep. yeah. | 16:22 |
| sdake | so for this sprint, I think we keep the deadline as is | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | +1 | 16:22 |
| sdake | for other deadlines, release:independent deliverables are flexible | 16:23 |
| sdake | ok , so PLEASE SIGN UP - just replace unassigned | 16:23 |
| sdake | note you will have to click through the blueprint to see what to sign up for | 16:23 |
| sdake | feel free to add to the work items too if you are going to actually do the work :) | 16:23 |
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| kfox1111 | I've got some other stuff that I'll make bp's for and add to that milestone. | 16:23 |
| sdake | i htink the scope of 0.5.0 is doable given the team size we have | 16:23 |
| sdake | kfox1111 to 0.5.0 you mean? | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, | 16:24 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 cool - hopefully they make sense for a basic demoable thing that works :) | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | plumbing. | 16:24 |
| sdake | so people can try it out prior to ptg | 16:24 |
| sdake | kfox1111 roger | 16:24 |
| sdake | any Q&A? | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | every container needs an overridable image pull policy, | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | every cconfigmap needs an overridable name, | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | etc. | 16:25 |
| sdake | kfox1111 ok - wel yo uknow how to add work items :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | note there are a ton of blueprints i nthe backlog as well | 16:25 |
| inc0 | if we can have demoable thing by ocata, I'd be very happy PTL | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | yup. :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | inc0 we are close I think :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | kfox1111 if you are adding smoethign make sure its not already in teh backlog | 16:25 |
| inc0 | yeah, I see that and I'm already happy PTL | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | another one not on the list is deployment docs. | 16:25 |
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| sdake | inc0 service layer finishes up (which uses entrypoint) and we are pretty good to go | 16:25 |
| sdake | kfox1111 yes docs, we need much better docs | 16:26 |
| sdake | all around | 16:26 |
| sdake | kfox1111 that is a continous improvement thing and doens't need a blueprint | 16:26 |
| sdake | but does need attention | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | I'm workign on a reboot testing gate job | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | and we probably need an upgrade job too. | 16:26 |
| sdake | nice kfox1111 :) | 16:26 |
| inc0 | well upgrade is something we need for 1.0 | 16:26 |
| inc0 | at least minor upgrades | 16:26 |
| inc0 | which are easier | 16:27 |
| kfox1111 | we have plumbing now for 2/3 in the gate, and trunk soon. | 16:27 |
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| kfox1111 | so upgrade testing shoudl be possible now. | 16:27 |
| sdake | inc0 i think you missed an announcement on the integration with registry in the gate | 16:27 |
| inc0 | it's still WIP | 16:27 |
| sdake | so i'm done, maybe you can talk about that a bit? | 16:27 |
| sdake | oh I thought it merged | 16:27 |
| inc0 | that's why I haven't announce it just yet | 16:27 |
| inc0 | nope | 16:27 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: its close. | 16:28 |
| sdake | cool m ybad then :) | 16:28 |
| kfox1111 | probably today. :) | 16:28 |
| l4yerffeJ | inc0, it is merged | 16:28 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418550/ | 16:28 |
| inc0 | l4yerffeJ, in ansible, we were referring to k8s | 16:28 |
| sdake | inc0 oh - I was talking about kolla-ansible deliverable there | 16:28 |
| inc0 | ok | 16:28 |
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| sdake | inc0 sorry to change subjects on ya | 16:28 |
| l4yerffeJ | ok. | 16:28 |
| inc0 | then yeah, it's merged | 16:28 |
| sdake | icn0 but i think its a big deal | 16:28 |
| inc0 | k8s is close | 16:29 |
| inc0 | I know | 16:29 |
| sdake | we cna probabl8y move on :) | 16:29 |
| inc0 | we can have voting gates as far as I'm concerned | 16:29 |
| inc0 | voting deploy gates | 16:29 |
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| sdake | if we are to talk about that - change topic :) | 16:29 |
| inc0 | #topic gates | 16:29 |
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| sdake | m0ar gates!! | 16:29 |
| inc0 | I'll inject it here since it's kinda important | 16:29 |
| inc0 | 1 thing I need to ask you guys (k8s) is to move to source gates | 16:30 |
| sdake | kinda^crucial | 16:30 |
| inc0 | when registry lands | 16:30 |
| inc0 | as binary gates in kolla aren't voting | 16:30 |
| sdake | inc0 yup we need source gates at minimum | 16:30 |
| sdake | inc0 i'll take tha ton | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | trunk-source non voting. | 16:30 |
| sdake | inc0 assumign i can figure it out on my own | 16:30 |
| inc0 | hence there is potential that registry will have broken images | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | 3.x voting. | 16:30 |
| l4yerffeJ | i hope trunk source voting in kolla-ansible ;) | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | then random broken trunk won't prevent progress on kolla-kubernetes. | 16:30 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, I'd go with trunk source voting | 16:31 |
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| kfox1111 | trunk is unstable. stable is stable. | 16:31 |
| sdake | kfox1111 one thing to note, when we branch, we will have separatee gates per version | 16:31 |
| inc0 | but one of kolla things is that we master deployment tool works with master images | 16:31 |
| l4yerffeJ | voting gate force committer to fix the gate first. | 16:31 |
| sdake | kfox1111 so the issue you are discussing wont be a thing post 1.0 | 16:31 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: once 1.0 hits and kolla-kubernetes is not in such active dev, I agree. | 16:31 |
| inc0 | we should have smoketest deploy gates in kolla itself too | 16:32 |
| sdake | kfox1111 right | 16:32 |
| inc0 | for k8s | 16:32 |
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| inc0 | we already have it for ansible | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | but for now, enhancements to kolla-kubernetes affects multiple versions. | 16:32 |
| sdake | inc0 ya cross-repo gating would be nice for kolla-k8s | 16:32 |
| sdake | kfox1111 roger i understand | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | +1 for cross repo gating. | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | I'm working on getting helm packages built out of the kolla-kubernetes gate. | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | so we could use those known good helm packages in the kolla gate. | 16:32 |
| l4yerffeJ | cross repo gate is easy to implement. use zuul-cloner to pull the kolla's code. | 16:32 |
| inc0 | ok, let's do this then kfox1111 | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | that woudl work too. | 16:33 |
| inc0 | 1. make cross repo gating on images | 16:33 |
| inc0 | 2. make source deploy gates voting for trunk | 16:33 |
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| sdake | we probably need a blueprint to track the gating work | 16:33 |
| inc0 | no time limit, when it makes sense | 16:33 |
| sdake | so we knwo what todo | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | if the images are cached, and those 2 other things hold, yeah. voting shoudl be fine then. | 16:34 |
| l4yerffeJ | cross project bp ;/ | 16:34 |
| sdake | inc0 infra will give us max 90 minutes | 16:34 |
| inc0 | per gate | 16:34 |
| sdake | l4yerffeJ is that possible in launchpad? | 16:34 |
| l4yerffeJ | sdake, we can have more time actuall. | 16:34 |
| l4yerffeJ | sdake, seems no ;( | 16:34 |
| sdake | l4yerffeJ the best i've been able to negotate is 90 minutes :) | 16:34 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: you can already use helm package by using helm-repo container | 16:34 |
| l4yerffeJ | now 90 mins is enought. | 16:34 |
| inc0 | yeah, I think we can extend timeout | 16:34 |
| sdake | l4yerffeJ we can put links to the cross launchpad sub-projects | 16:34 |
| inc0 | but I doubt we need to | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: yeah. but need to store the packages somewhere. | 16:35 |
| sdake | inc0 infra pretty strongly opposed to gates longer then 60 minutess | 16:35 |
| sdake | i had to work hard to get infra to accept 90 minute gates, although we generally dont even need 90 minutes now | 16:35 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: working on getting that into tarballs.o.o | 16:35 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: pakcges will be stored on a persistent storage | 16:35 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: I see what you mean | 16:35 |
| sdake | inc0 could you take an action to create a blueprint in each of the deliverables for gating, and i'll take an action to cross-ink them in launchpad | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0 and if the entire team can make an effort to fill out work items, that would be great :) | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | sounds good. | 16:36 |
| sdake | we can just keep rolling this blueprint from release to release | 16:36 |
| inc0 | sdake, I'll just create bp in kolla for kolla-k8s deploy gates | 16:36 |
| inc0 | no need for over-documentation | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0 kolla-k8s needs gating too | 16:36 |
| inc0 | we can just paste link to other bps in whiteboard | 16:36 |
| inc0 | but these are separate bps;) | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0 right that is what I was suggesting | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | k. please let me know when it lands so I can watch it. | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0 ok, i'll take action to create teh blueprint for gating for kolla-kubernetes | 16:37 |
| sdake | inc0 perhaps you can do for kolla | 16:37 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, we'll need your help in kolla gates;) | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: np. I'm here for you. :) | 16:37 |
| sdake | kfox1111 once i get blueprint created for kolla-kubernetes, perhaps you can fill out the work items that relate to kolla-kubernetes specifically (not cross repo gating) | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 16:37 |
| sdake | i'd say cross repo gating is lower priority -t hen say the 0.5.0 blueprints | 16:38 |
| sdake | although after ptg, i'd say its higher priority then eveyrhting else | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-k8s-deploy-gates | 16:38 |
| sdake | however that is one lone voice's opinion | 16:38 |
| inc0 | I'll target it for Pike, as I don't assume it happening in ocata (nor it has to) | 16:38 |
| inc0 | would be nice tho | 16:38 |
| sdake | inc0 coo lthanks dude | 16:38 |
| sdake | inc0 i think we will be challeneged to deliver 0.5.0 :) | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: my time is easier to prioritize around the microservices and support. less so about orchestration. | 16:39 |
| sdake | kfox1111 understood | 16:39 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 whatever works for each individual | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | ok, we need to move on | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | #topic PTG planning | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ocata-ptg | 16:40 |
| inc0 | have at it gents | 16:40 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:40 |
| zhubingbing | ;( | 16:40 |
| sp___ | inc0: what if we wont get travel support > | 16:41 |
| sp___ | ? | 16:41 |
| inc0 | sp___, teleconferences will be on | 16:42 |
| inc0 | everyone will be able to call in | 16:42 |
| sdake | inc0 nice - is the foundation organizing that part - or are we hacking it together with cellphones and whatnot? | 16:42 |
| inc0 | hacking afaik | 16:42 |
| sdake | inc0 roger | 16:42 |
| inc0 | but we'll have ethernet cable | 16:42 |
| sdake | I have a great USB microphone | 16:43 |
| inc0 | so one laptop + some higher grade teleco microphone/speakers should be fine | 16:43 |
| inc0 | there ya go | 16:43 |
| sdake | my kid use it for gmaing | 16:43 |
| sdake | I can bring it if you like | 16:43 |
| sdake | I can't guarantee itworks well in a room | 16:43 |
| inc0 | I'll check if intel has some stashed conf gear | 16:43 |
| sp___ | how will we get connect to call ? | 16:43 |
| wirehead_ | It’s gonna be like this: http://fashiongrunge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hackers24ji.jpg | 16:43 |
| inc0 | sp___, hangouts link will be published | 16:44 |
| sp___ | inc0: thanks | 16:44 |
| wirehead_ | Or, maybe if we’re lucky: http://thatmikeflynn.com/public/images/hackers_2.jpg | 16:44 |
| inc0 | or some alternative | 16:44 |
| sdake | inc0 i can't guarantee this mic will work with hangouts, but I'll test it | 16:44 |
| inc0 | since hangouts has issues in China | 16:44 |
| egonzalez | some region does not have access to hangout | 16:44 |
| inc0 | sdake, I'll bring some gear myself | 16:44 |
| sdake | inc0 I think zoom.us is accessiable thru the GFW and works on linux | 16:44 |
| inc0 | worst case scenerio, we'll raise money in room and send runner to nearest best buy | 16:45 |
| sdake | inc0 cool - i'l bring backups just in case :)\ | 16:45 |
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| inc0 | tool will be determined | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | one think for Chinese to participate OpenStack is cross the wall ;) | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | one thing* | 16:45 |
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| inc0 | I'm actually very happy that we'll have teleconference | 16:46 |
| inc0 | timezones will be hard for some of us, but there is only so much we can do | 16:46 |
| inc0 | I think China will also need to move to nocturnal life for a week;) | 16:46 |
| sbezverk | Jeffrey4l: based on the latest Damon movie, it looked like a scary thing ;) | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | so personally i am OK with hangout | 16:46 |
| inc0 | ok, let's get back on track | 16:47 |
| inc0 | list of sessions | 16:47 |
| inc0 | timebox 10min | 16:47 |
| inc0 | let's make sure it's up to date | 16:47 |
| clarkb | the infra team has had good luck using pbx.openstack.org / asterisk, but not sure we have tested it from china | 16:47 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:47 |
| inc0 | clarkb, thanks! thats good info | 16:48 |
| sdake | sup clarkb :) | 16:50 |
| sdake | clarkb we will have to tlak mroe - I don't know how to access pbx.openstack.org (what device is reuqired, etc) | 16:50 |
| sdake | clarkb i think Jeffrey4l could test it from china for you | 16:50 |
| sdake | alhtough just guessing as Jeffrey4l is super busy | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am downloading the client and try to test. | 16:50 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l rockin thanks :) | 16:50 |
| clarkb | details are at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | interesting service ;) | 16:51 |
| sdake | clarkb thanks :) | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks clarkb | 16:51 |
| sp___ | clarkb: thanks | 16:52 |
| zhubingbing | clarkb: thanks | 16:52 |
| zhubingbing | ；） | 16:52 |
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| inc0 | ok, times up | 16:56 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:56 | |
| inc0 | 4 more minutes | 16:56 |
| inc0 | anyone want to discuss anything? | 16:57 |
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| inc0 | guess not:) | 16:58 |
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| inc0 | allright, thanks everyone! | 16:58 |
| mliima | bye | 16:58 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:58 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 18 16:58:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-18-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-18-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-18-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
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